06:58:08 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF what do you think of this gfx card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125317
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06:59:17 PM | agamotto | Hallo all
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06:59:19 PM | M0DCM_Dave | It's almost show time
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06:59:23 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, all of it, don't forget to say the punctuation out loud as well exclamation mark
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06:59:40 PM | RobbieF | www.Category5.TV - tonight we're ushering in Season 4 of Category5 Technology TV and learning all about data security: keeping your private stuff safe when you sell or scrap your computer. Join us now for the live show!
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06:59:42 PM | EricKidd | @#$$!
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06:59:44 PM | agamotto | Ahh, Victor Borge night!
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07:00:14 PM | mmdmurphy | We will be assimulated?
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07:00:20 PM | mmdmurphy | (no, I can't spell)
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07:00:52 PM | M0DCM_Dave | OOoooooh Star Trek costumes
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07:01:07 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | It is TNG anniversary day
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07:01:41 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I ran my Droid battery down to shutoff. Took over a day
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07:01:43 PM | _Jot_ | Those curtains really need ironing
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07:01:48 PM | EricKidd | i can smell the "geekiness"!
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07:01:48 PM | Ech0 | popcorn hour
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07:02:01 PM | _Jot_ | is the video playing for anybody?
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07:02:04 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Nope
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07:02:06 PM | M0DCM_Dave | live long and prosper
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07:02:17 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | It says The Live Show is About to Begin
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07:02:34 PM | agamotto | Ahhh, good memories
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07:02:42 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | The Star Trek novel shelf looks so clear
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07:02:44 PM | EricKidd | Here we go! Season IV
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07:02:52 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Not clear enough to see the titles though
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07:03:07 PM | agamotto | I am doing fine on the WMS feed
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07:03:12 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I'm not seeing anything
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07:03:30 PM | Ech0 | lets rock!
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07:03:32 PM | _Jot_ | Justin still showing 'live show is about to begin'
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07:03:40 PM | {BBI}Nexus{BBI} | Greetings to all in the chat :)
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07:03:42 PM | Ech0 | Hope my audio is working
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07:03:42 PM | mmdmurphy | Me neither, I jumpped to the justin.tv website.
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07:04:07 PM | Gadwil-Office | RobbieF, I am gettign Internal Server Errors on part of the site again.
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07:04:11 PM | Gadwil-Office | getting*
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07:04:14 PM | chrisreich | Hi Honey! I'm home!
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07:04:17 PM | mmdmurphy | Are we running late, or ???
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07:04:39 PM | Drumstick | I got nothing!
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07:04:51 PM | chrisreich | same here, nothing
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07:04:52 PM | agamotto | Peace and Long Life
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07:05:12 PM | M0DCM_Dave | not just Viewers.... Trekkies lol
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07:05:17 PM | Gadwil-Office | I doesn't look as if anything has started yet.. I wonder what is going on.
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07:05:21 PM | Drumstick | BRB
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07:05:27 PM | agamotto | If you are having trouble, try the WMS feed
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07:05:31 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, JustinTFV is only showing 'The live show is about to begin'
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07:05:34 PM | Gadwil-Office | Perhaps Robbie is having some Technical Issues he needs to work through before going live.
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07:05:40 PM | kyoshininja | I'm watching some beverage sipping...
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07:06:08 PM | chrisreich | I'm sure RobbieF will let us know all about the reason for the delay.
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07:06:14 PM | agamotto | Gadwil-Office, That or I bet something threw up at Justin.tv
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07:06:16 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | He doesn't seem to be sharing.
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07:06:27 PM | _Jot_ | there is no delay, Robbie is broadcasting already, at least on the audiostream it is working
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07:06:28 PM | M0DCM_Dave | I'm viewing in VLC
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07:06:30 PM | Gadwil-Office | Good pont agamotto.
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07:06:35 PM | raptor222 | hi, everyone
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07:06:42 PM | Gadwil-Office | Looks like we are going somewhere.
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07:06:50 PM | agamotto | I am watching the WMS feed at a Panera's.... so far, so good here
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07:06:53 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Now I have audio
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07:06:54 PM | Gadwil-Office | YAY!
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07:07:03 PM | chrisreich | now I've got streaming
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07:07:04 PM | talibcyg | Good to see you
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07:07:17 PM | Gadwil-Office | Stream is buggy.
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07:07:27 PM | Gadwil-Office | very frequent stubbles.
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07:07:34 PM | Guest_7594 | laggy
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07:07:38 PM | chrisreich | got start/stop via justin.tv
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07:07:45 PM | GoodGuy | same here
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07:07:57 PM | chrisreich | HOW?
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07:08:17 PM | raptor222 | i getting freezes on the feed
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07:08:26 PM | agamotto | On the DL... hmmm, makes the show sound like a virus or malware.....
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07:08:26 PM | Gadwil-Office | WMS is working MUCH better.
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07:08:35 PM | talibcyg | same here
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07:08:35 PM | chrisreich | HOW do we change to WMS?
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07:08:35 PM | Gadwil-Office | Justin.TV is the issue Robbie.
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07:08:38 PM | M0DCM_Dave | WMS is working super
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07:08:40 PM | AspidZent | I'm switching to the good-old wms feed...
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07:08:41 PM | AspidZent | houston, we have a problem...
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07:08:45 PM | mmdmurphy | agamotto - or that episode of Law and Order...
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07:08:49 PM | _Jot_ | what is wms and where is it?
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07:08:50 PM | Gadwil-Office | chrisreich, on cat5.tv homepage, click WMS link.
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07:09:04 PM | chrisreich | okay I'll go find it. thanks
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07:09:14 PM | agamotto | mms://stream01.siglocero.net/Category5
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07:09:33 PM | M0DCM_Dave | mms://stream01.siglocero.net/Category5
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07:09:33 PM | AspidZent | houston, nevermind... I had the problem...
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07:09:55 PM | M0DCM_Dave | I'm slow tonight
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07:10:06 PM | agamotto | It is a bit funny that I have fewer distractions here at Panera's than I do at home :)
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07:10:07 PM | talibcyg | I am not getting any feed or sound
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07:10:11 PM | ajamison5579 | I get a 500 Iwow the WMS feed has horrible video quality
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07:10:26 PM | ptguest | wms is a little blurry
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07:10:33 PM | ajamison5579 | opps
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07:10:34 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | It's a low quality feed.
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07:10:37 PM | raptor222 | no sound on wms
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07:10:40 PM | mindlord | now that some people have jumped it's stable
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07:10:56 PM | M0DCM_Dave | wms isn't the same quality as Justin
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07:11:03 PM | Drumstick | Back.
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07:11:15 PM | mmdmurphy | http://www.robbief.com/tv/viewer.html was working great for a minute... now jumpy
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07:11:29 PM | AspidZent | the wms feed is intended for low bandwidth situations...
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07:11:33 PM | DGTLDNA | that works
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07:11:35 PM | DGTLDNA | hah
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07:11:45 PM | GoodGuy | VLC works well for the WM Feed
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07:11:49 PM | M0DCM_Dave | Hey Jeff
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07:11:54 PM | Gadwil-Office | 2nd YAY! for the night. Pizza is on its way.
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07:12:04 PM | ke9v | Hello
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07:12:11 PM | M0DCM_Dave | another fellow ham
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07:12:17 PM | agamotto | VLC works for just about anything
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07:12:23 PM | ke9v | QSL!
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07:12:26 PM | agamotto | Wee fee wee fee
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07:12:45 PM | evermind | wow, what did you do with the line
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07:12:56 PM | GoodGuy | True.... it opened by default in RealPlayer (Hiss boo)
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07:12:59 PM | DGTLDNA | I should probably hardwire in. Video is breaking up.
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07:13:06 PM | GoodGuy | on my WinXP system
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07:13:06 PM | Gadwil-Office | RobbieF, Do you know if the Cat5 Party Store will ship to USA?
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07:13:16 PM | agamotto | My default is VLC.... phbhbhbhbhbhhtpt
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07:13:24 PM | evermind | i get stuttering
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07:13:28 PM | evermind | unwatcheable tonight
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07:13:43 PM | DGTLDNA | good to know it's not just me evermind
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07:13:51 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | RobbieF, since you turned down my suggestion, you think EricKidd will take the suggestion to dress up as Beldar Conehead for the Halloween episode?
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07:13:55 PM | Gadwil-Office | evermind, It is Justin.tv, try WMS feed.
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07:14:00 PM | jaepea | hi all
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07:14:11 PM | agamotto | meps meps meps
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07:14:13 PM | Gadwil-Office | I will try to get a Uniform then.
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07:14:25 PM | ajamison5579 | Is there no Ustream anymore
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07:14:30 PM | ke9v | how is the justin.tv working for all?
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07:14:35 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Ajamison, he gave up on Ustream
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07:14:37 PM | Drumstick | Backstage works for me but not main feed there. JustinTV does work though.
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07:14:43 PM | mmdmurphy | justin.tv is pretty good for me now...
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07:14:54 PM | ke9v | a little choppy here, but better than the wms
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07:14:55 PM | Gadwil-Office | ajamison5579, I don't think so since it uses more bandwith, and Robbie is limited.
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07:15:00 PM | agamotto | I have already consumed mass quantities this evening.... perhaps I can interest you in a biologically non-offensive beverage?
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07:15:13 PM | evermind | Gadwil-Office, got a link?
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07:15:13 PM | ajamison5579 | ah
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07:15:15 PM | EricKidd | GadgetWisdonGuru.........buy me the suit; I'll wear it!
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07:15:24 PM | GoodGuy | Mine should be.... Not sure what possessed me to install RealPlayer... temp insanity perhaps
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07:15:28 PM | Gadwil-Office | mms://stream01.siglocero.net/Category5
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07:15:32 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579, Ustream went the way of the Dodo... too many problems
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07:15:34 PM | Gadwil-Office | evermind ^^
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07:15:49 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | EricKidd, you can make a Beldar outfit. Very easily.
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07:15:56 PM | evermind | thx, gonna load it up
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07:16:10 PM | Gadwil-Office | I wonder who CustomProfile1 is?
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07:16:16 PM | Gadwil-Office | ...
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07:16:25 PM | AspidZent | wow... conehead zombie!!! great costume!!!
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07:16:33 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | RobbieF, extra points for that
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07:16:35 PM | GoodGuy | WD Live TV
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07:16:36 PM | evermind | wms stream is working, but what a qual, this is thumnail, right
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07:16:36 PM | Gadwil-Office | Or Starfleet and Darth Vader!
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07:16:46 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I hope you know I'm kidding.
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07:16:49 PM | ajamison5579 | oddly enough running the WMS and Justin.tv fixes the justin feed
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07:16:50 PM | Gadwil-Office | Hello Warcow105.
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07:16:52 PM | evermind | remembers me on the good old days, like viv
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07:16:53 PM | ajamison5579 | just mute the other
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07:17:04 PM | mmdmurphy | I just got a 500 error on www.category5.tv
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07:17:19 PM | warcow105 | hey everyone
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07:17:23 PM | Gadwil-Office | mmdmurphy, Yea, Servers are having issues.
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07:17:36 PM | agamotto | Nah, many of us are metric/zed -friendly
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07:17:36 PM | GoodGuy | I'm getting quick pauses on Justin
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07:17:44 PM | Gadwil-Office | It is intermitent though.
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07:18:20 PM | mindlord | woo. streaming straight to my OpenPandora.
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07:18:21 PM | linuxwebfly | Hi I'm only getting backstage???
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07:18:28 PM | DGTLDNA | everytime one of these adds pops up it get all choppy.
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07:18:48 PM | Gadwil-Office | linuxwebfly, Using BSP? Will it not bring up Justin.tv player?
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07:19:03 PM | Gatorman | will the delayed show be effected?
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07:19:04 PM | GoodGuy | Use the WM feed linuxwebfly
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07:19:14 PM | warcow105 | i get pauses even without ads
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07:19:18 PM | agamotto | EricKidd, Pas tous les Am?ricains sont mono-lingue, Eric:)
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07:19:31 PM | Gadwil-Office | warcow105, Justin.tv is spotty. Try WMS feed.
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07:19:37 PM | GoodGuy | WM feed seems fine.. Justin pausing
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07:19:48 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Here's a question:
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07:19:49 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Dear Robbie: In recent conversations, someone referred me to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. Do you believe this is something to be ignored, adopted, etc? Most distributions seem to ignore it. What are your thoughts?
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07:19:50 PM | ke9v | just bailed on Justin.tv - too much chop
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07:19:56 PM | warcow105 | thanks Gadwil-Office
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07:20:13 PM | agamotto | EricKidd, Not all Americans are mono-lingual...
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07:20:26 PM | Drumstick | Justin is choppy but it's all I got....
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07:20:33 PM | Gadwil-Office | I havn't gotten Justin.TV to work in BSP for the past 3-5 weeks. I just open the pop-up player.
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07:20:50 PM | agamotto | GadgetWisdomGuru, Interesting... not heard of that
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07:21:00 PM | Gadwil-Office | agamotto, I am a mono-lingual one though! I do do a bit of HTML5 though.
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07:21:12 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Agamotto, exactly.
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07:21:24 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | That's the point. Why don't people use it? It seems to make sense
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07:21:25 PM | agamotto | Yes, which is why I added the chuckle
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07:21:26 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF can you explain the difference between NVIDIA GeForce "consumer" video cards and NVIDIA Quadro "workstation" video cards?
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07:21:41 PM | Gadwil-Office | EricKidd, That is because we have our own system of English.
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07:21:44 PM | GoodGuy | Price chrisreich :-)
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07:21:45 PM | mmdmurphy | We tracked it down to firewall, but never fixed it.
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07:21:55 PM | raptor222 | robbief, there are CAR geeks
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07:22:05 PM | chrisreich | This American is bi-lingual, plus Morse (Continental code)
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07:22:08 PM | mmdmurphy | will try the apt-cache option
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07:22:13 PM | Gadwil-Office | raptor222, We call them Mechanics.
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07:22:23 PM | ptguest | What do you think of a Geforce 9400 GT?
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07:22:24 PM | raptor222 | LOL
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07:22:25 PM | agamotto | chrisreich, Essentially, it is down to the precision of the rendering
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07:22:40 PM | Gadwil-Office | I took Spanish I in high school, then quit so I could take a super long computer class.
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07:22:49 PM | GoodGuy | Take a look at the VirtualBox command line
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07:23:06 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I passed Spanish
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07:23:09 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Thus I am not fluent
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07:23:14 PM | agamotto | Candian customs agent: "Are you bi-lingual?" Me: "Si."
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07:23:24 PM | agamotto | Canadian, that should be
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07:23:28 PM | Gadwil-Office | I passed with a B, I had straight A's all year, but skipped my exam, which was 20% of my grade.
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07:23:29 PM | ajamison5579 | my little spanish
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07:23:33 PM | ajamison5579 | is dangerous
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07:23:34 PM | chrisreich | I've taught electronics courses in Spanish
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07:23:35 PM | ajamison5579 | to say
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07:23:36 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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07:23:40 PM | chrisreich | many, many times
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07:23:48 PM | GoodGuy | There are operations you can perform on a command line that dont have graphical versions yet
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07:23:51 PM | warcow105 | ptguest, the 9400 is a little old, you can get a 9800 for a little more and it is much better
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07:23:56 PM | agamotto | ptguest, You might be better off with a 2xx series. Might even be cheaper
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07:24:12 PM | warcow105 | even better agamotto
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07:24:24 PM | _Jot_ | you shouldn't burn EricKidd, that just doesn't work well
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07:24:28 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I recommend something with VDPAU
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07:24:41 PM | GoodGuy | VBoxManage import
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07:24:49 PM | warcow105 | GadgetWisdomGuru, that is most everything 9XXX up
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07:24:50 PM | GoodGuy | Maybe that can help
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07:24:59 PM | agamotto | ptguest, I think the 2xx series are even better at power efficiency. I may move my systems to something in that range next year
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07:25:14 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF-EricKidd: VBoxManage clonehd
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07:25:14 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Warcow105, exactly
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07:25:21 PM | Gadwil-Office | That is correct RobbieF.
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07:25:23 PM | talibcyg | this maybe very newbie but how do I get my cd rom drive to automount in 10.4
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07:25:24 PM | ptguest | thanks for the info!
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07:25:40 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I will repeat my query about Filesystem Hierarchy
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07:25:41 PM | Gadwil-Office | Workstation is geard towards CAD and other engineering stations
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07:25:41 PM | agamotto | He is about to whack someone with a stick?
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07:25:48 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Dear Robbie: In recent conversations, someone referred me to the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. Do you believe this is something to be ignored, adopted, etc? Most distributions seem to ignore it. What are your thoughts?
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07:25:56 PM | Gadwil-Office | substitute Stations with Applications
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07:26:09 PM | GoodGuy | That sounds like exactly what they wanted.. see the VirtualBox pdf manual Chapter 8 Boxmanage commands
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07:26:43 PM | agamotto | Think Lightwave or Blender
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07:26:49 PM | GoodGuy | This command duplicates a registered virtual hard disk image to a new image file
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07:26:50 PM | GoodGuy | with a new unique identifier (UUID). The new image can be transferred to another
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07:26:50 PM | GoodGuy | host system or imported into VirtualBox again using the Virtual Media Manager;
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07:27:54 PM | GoodGuy | 5.6 Cloning disk images
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07:28:01 PM | GoodGuy | Read that also
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07:28:04 PM | Gadwil-Office | 8 Eyes, 2 People, One Camera
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07:28:10 PM | Gadwil-Office | hehe
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07:28:16 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF-EricKidd: I did
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07:28:27 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF-EricKidd: 5.6 Cloning disk images
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07:28:31 PM | agamotto | EricKidd, Look for the GoodGuy posts
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07:28:39 PM | EricKidd | I can still smell the geeeeekeeeenessss
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07:28:51 PM | GoodGuy | It's in the VirtualBox pdf manual
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07:29:01 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I just love the sound of typing
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07:29:02 PM | GoodGuy | Also Chapter 5.6
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07:29:17 PM | raptor222 | erickidd is the shows t'ealc, ;-)
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07:29:54 PM | _Jot_ | I'm suprised EricKidd doesn't break into sports commentary-style randomly
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07:30:06 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Raptor222, does he have a baby G'ouald(is that right) in his belly?
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07:30:13 PM | ajamison5579 | wow the justin tv feed is like 5 minutes behind
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07:30:16 PM | ajamison5579 | the wms
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07:30:27 PM | agamotto | More importantly, how long will it be before 'junior' pops out?
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07:30:48 PM | Gadwil-Office | Nice Lower third Robbie.
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07:31:05 PM | raptor222 | well gadgetwisdomguru he has an large enough belly so who knows
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07:31:15 PM | agamotto | I wish RIM all the luck, but since it isn't avail... vaporware
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07:31:28 PM | DGTLDNA | how do I get the wms feed? I didn't see an option to select anything other then "watch the Show".
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07:31:39 PM | Gadwil-Office | WHAT?!
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07:31:46 PM | agamotto | mms://stream01.siglocero.net/Category5
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07:32:00 PM | Gadwil-Office | Shoot, I use Xmarks!
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07:32:07 PM | raptor222 | dgtldna the link is on the homepage, just search for wms
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07:32:08 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Me too
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07:32:10 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I wrote the story
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07:32:10 PM | Gadwil-Office | Guess I will use Mozilla Sync now.
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07:32:40 PM | raptor222 | i already looking an replacement for xmarks
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07:32:41 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I like Cross-Platform
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07:32:47 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Raptor222, Firefox Sync
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07:32:53 PM | Gadwil-Office | raptor222, Manual syncronizing.
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07:33:00 PM | DGTLDNA | thanks agamotto
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07:33:00 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Addon now, built-in in Firefox 4
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07:33:01 PM | Gadwil-Office | If you want cross-browser.
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07:33:14 PM | raptor222 | gadwil-office no likley!!
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07:33:16 PM | agamotto | 'So long, so long. and thanks for all the fish, sorry about that disrespectful bit...'
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07:33:50 PM | Gadwil-Office | Pizza just got home! :d
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07:33:53 PM | agamotto | NO, porn spam being used to upset social sites????????
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07:34:11 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Agamotto, what disrespectful bit?
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07:34:38 PM | DGTLDNA | dang! no audio
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07:34:40 PM | agamotto | I am shocked, nay, disgusted that such things could occur in this day and age.... what next, purveyors of Penguin Lust???????
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07:34:41 PM | DGTLDNA | errr
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07:35:00 PM | agamotto | GadgetWisdomGuru, Read the book, and find out... worth the fun
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07:35:02 PM | raptor222 | dgtldna use vlc
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07:35:02 PM | linuxwebfly | Man this Justin.tv is so bad.
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07:35:18 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I read the book
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07:35:22 PM | mmdmurphy | Closing out Justin.tv
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07:35:26 PM | DGTLDNA | okay.. opened in totem
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07:35:33 PM | Cory` | wow
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07:35:36 PM | DGTLDNA | I'll have to find vlc for ubuntu
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07:35:37 PM | Cory` | jTV is way behind
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07:36:33 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Robbie must like me. It just occurred to me that I get billing before his wife.
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07:36:46 PM | _Jot_ | GWG, is that good, or bad?
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07:36:51 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I don't know
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07:36:53 PM | raptor222 | dgtldna find it from the software center it takes only couple of minutes
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07:37:02 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | _Jot_ sometimes being noticed is bad
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07:37:16 PM | DGTLDNA | thanks raptor222 downloading now.
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07:37:20 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | It might be in order of number of articles, or in order received
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07:37:26 PM | linuxwebfly | later
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07:37:48 PM | mmdmurphy | Sorry, folks, giving up. Later.
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07:38:27 PM | agamotto | Please, it can't even replace a Kindle
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07:38:47 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Agamotto, I just bought a Kindle
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07:39:20 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | right province
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07:39:22 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Wrong town
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07:39:35 PM | agamotto | EricKidd, It all depends on how much those tickets run, eh?
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07:39:39 PM | raptor222 | of i LOVE!!! these meat loafs
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07:40:06 PM | talibcyg | The 1 thing the RIM Playbook should have that the ipad doesn't is Blackberry's encryption and business apps.
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07:40:11 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | RobbieF was stationed on Mars?
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07:40:19 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | That explains a lot
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07:40:36 PM | Cory` | My tweet made it on air :)
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07:40:43 PM | DGTLDNA | @raptor do I have to reboot after installing vlc? I still only receive totem as option.
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07:40:59 PM | GoodGuy | Actually you can use IE on Linux.. There is a project.. IE4Linux iirc
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07:41:07 PM | agamotto | ewwwww
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07:41:10 PM | raptor222 | dgtldna no just run it and open a network stream
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07:41:11 PM | agamotto | IE on linux....ewwwwwww
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07:41:21 PM | DGTLDNA | okay
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07:41:29 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | GoodGuy, why would you want to?
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07:41:30 PM | agamotto | talibcyg, I am sure it will, IF it sees the light of day
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07:42:35 PM | raptor222 | robbief, did you heard that openoffice has forked into libreoffice
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07:42:41 PM | talibcyg | Only the andriod pad is close
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07:42:47 PM | agamotto | raptor222, que?
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07:43:01 PM | DGTLDNA | @raptor222.. Thanks that worked and video is much better.
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07:43:19 PM | raptor222 | dgtldna you are most welcome
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07:43:20 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Raptor222, I heard that
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07:43:57 PM | agamotto | Robbie has fixed the universe, hence no testimonials
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07:43:58 PM | _Jot_ | openoffice.org has been renamed etc because they want to break off from oracle and have asked oracle for the rights for the name, but untill they get it (if ever) they call it libreoffice
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07:44:12 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Libre sounds better
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07:44:23 PM | raptor222 | yes, i dont know if libreoffice replaces opeoffice or just another "distro"
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07:44:46 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | it's a fork
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07:45:05 PM | raptor222 | woooo!! more choice
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07:45:36 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Kidd-man? More like Kidd-er?
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07:45:45 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, you can't have the same catch-phrase as Hillary
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07:45:48 PM | frederickrabbit | First time here from California. Sorry I am late.
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07:46:09 PM | EricKidd | That was just a shout-out to Hillary.
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07:46:32 PM | Drumstick | ROBBIEF: Frederickrabbit is a newbie....
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07:46:38 PM | _Jot_ | welcome frederickrabbit
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07:46:42 PM | Drumstick | Welcome frederickrabbit!
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07:47:01 PM | frederickrabbit | Thannks alll.
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07:47:13 PM | raptor222 | welcome to cat5tv fredrickrebbit
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07:47:15 PM | agamotto | Next time, come about an hour earlier... chuckle
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07:47:31 PM | Gadwil-Office | Category5 Hippie TV
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07:47:44 PM | frederickrabbit | I am a commuter.
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07:47:45 PM | agamotto | Thankfully, our county offers e-waste recycling services
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07:48:26 PM | chrisreich | guys/gals I'm nauseus from my pain medicines; I'm going to lay down and listen to the balance of the show. All my best to all of you.
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07:48:31 PM | agamotto | Nope, once your trash is on the street, it is considered abandoned.... ask the police, FBI, CIA, NSA..... at least in the US
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07:49:03 PM | GoodGuy | Take it easy chrisreich
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07:49:08 PM | agamotto | Darin's Boot & Nuke
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07:49:11 PM | evermind | pick a hammer, open up the hd case
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07:49:14 PM | agamotto | chrisreich, pleasant thoughts
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07:49:17 PM | Drumstick | Best to you chrisreich
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07:49:34 PM | evermind | hd dust noone can read from
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07:49:36 PM | agamotto | evermind: Nah, blowtorch
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07:49:53 PM | evermind | blowtorch you might not have around at your workplace if youre an it office
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07:49:56 PM | evermind | but everyone has a hammer
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07:49:57 PM | Drumstick | .357 works too.
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07:49:58 PM | agamotto | Or, if you are really geeky.... liquid nitrogen
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07:50:01 PM | Gadwil-Office | DBAN
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07:50:04 PM | DGTLDNA | someone hand robbie a class of water
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07:50:05 PM | GoodGuy | Terabyte's CopyWipe is freeware also
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07:50:18 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I used a hammer
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07:50:20 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Hammers are fun
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07:50:35 PM | GoodGuy | Lol it's Hammer Time!
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07:50:42 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | You think I'm kidding?
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07:50:49 PM | GoodGuy | Nope
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07:50:51 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | That's how I disposed of my last drive.
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07:50:55 PM | evermind | nope, thats the best method around
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07:50:55 PM | agamotto | Much of my electronics and music in the 80's came from dumpster diving
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07:51:01 PM | GoodGuy | Makes alot of sense
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07:51:16 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I wiped it, bashed it with a hammer, dunked it in water...
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07:51:23 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | But it is fun
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07:51:35 PM | Gadwil-Office | Thermite
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07:51:45 PM | agamotto | Percussive maintenance.... sounds like something you would experience with an old 1541 drive....
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07:51:46 PM | evermind | thermite, buy it at your grocery store, sure
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07:52:01 PM | agamotto | Buy? Mix it in the bathtub
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07:52:20 PM | evermind | and if anything miscalc, youre boom up
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07:52:21 PM | warcow105 | bathtub, mix it in a bowl
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07:52:22 PM | raptor222 | I actually recommend an vulcand or a gau-8 if you can get it (google those two)
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07:52:22 PM | GoodGuy | Thermite works great... I used to make that in science class... melted a clay flowerpot in seconds
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07:52:42 PM | evermind | nahh, ill stay with protection glasses and the hammer
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07:52:45 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I don't really understand that dban program, can you demonstrate it right now please?
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07:52:52 PM | evermind | sorry robby, dban might be good, but this is so much more fun;)
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07:52:58 PM | DGTLDNA | I have a 486 to donate
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07:53:27 PM | agamotto | That is fun to watch! Local facility let me watch as they ground up a bunch of drives
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07:53:30 PM | GoodGuy | Even melted the science class fresnel lens using it to ignite the primer material..... wasnt appreciated al all
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07:54:05 PM | agamotto | Nah, label it "Porn collection," and have evil fun with the snoopy people in your life
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07:54:06 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF-EricKidd: Terabyte's CopyWipes does that as well as copy drives if you want
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07:54:15 PM | Drumstick | ....nah .357....the preferred method in Georgia US... LOL
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07:54:17 PM | GoodGuy | Love it agamotto :-)
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07:54:56 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/copywipe.php
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07:55:02 PM | evermind | thats why youll need to open the drive up anyways
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07:55:11 PM | _Jot_ | if you make everything zeros, people can still read the data by examining the edges of the magnetic stuff with electron microscopes and such, so it isn't really gone
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07:55:23 PM | agamotto | I did that to two co-workers... they never touch a thing on my desk again
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07:55:25 PM | evermind | if you put the electromagnet on the plates, theres a good chance, but still said... there are cheaper ways
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07:55:43 PM | GoodGuy | The DOD or NSA method beats that
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07:55:53 PM | warcow105 | _Jot_, there has never been a proven example of that being done, sure it is possible, but not plausible
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07:56:11 PM | evermind | the prob with most erase soft is that youll have to know how to restore stuff, to find out if theyre really working good
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07:56:16 PM | GoodGuy | Guttmann method does 35 diff wipe patterns... takes ages'
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07:56:20 PM | agamotto | Like transparent aluminum... possible, but not plausible
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07:56:46 PM | evermind | see, goodguy
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07:56:47 PM | agamotto | RobbieF, Nice that you have that locally available to you
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07:56:54 PM | evermind | yah, guttman is good man
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07:57:03 PM | evermind | but it just takes to long
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07:57:05 PM | GoodGuy | The NSA might be able to beat a lame wipe... most normal users couldnt
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07:57:09 PM | evermind | if it hammers on your door, you dont have minutes
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07:57:31 PM | Gadwil-Office | It is easy if the drive is NTFS, which most are.
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07:57:42 PM | Gadwil-Office | Just using undelete from most repositories.
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07:57:42 PM | GoodGuy | I know..... drive will probably wear out before the wipe finishes lol
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07:57:48 PM | Gadwil-Office | ntfsundelete that is.
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07:58:14 PM | DGTLDNA | I think it has a 10gb drive in it.
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07:58:26 PM | Gadwil-Office | 29 EricKidd?
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07:58:42 PM | Drumstick | not as old as me...
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07:58:51 PM | evermind | btw, you do realize that all these options dont work with sdd disks
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07:59:09 PM | evermind | so your netbook data erase needs nather path
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07:59:12 PM | GoodGuy | I heard that.. any flash type drive
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07:59:12 PM | evermind | nother even
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07:59:27 PM | warcow105 | evermind, with ssd you just fill the drive over and over with random
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07:59:34 PM | Drumstick | its not age its mileage!!
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07:59:35 PM | GoodGuy | Takes special utilities
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07:59:41 PM | evermind | thats a way thats supposed to work warcow
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07:59:50 PM | agamotto | Is that why I still have good skin?
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07:59:51 PM | evermind | to tell the truth, ill have to have an sdd drive to test it out
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08:00:08 PM | agamotto | Or, if you really want to test it, an SSD drive...
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08:00:15 PM | Gadwil-Office | Awesome show, thanks!
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08:00:27 PM | evermind | the random bit's could also have the counter effect
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08:00:30 PM | RobbieF | Woo! I made it through and only coughed 300 times! Hehe
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08:00:35 PM | evermind | drive parts might look more suspicious than others
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08:00:35 PM | raptor222 | have a good night everyone
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08:00:36 PM | EricKidd | See you fine folks next week. Thanks for having me!
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08:00:39 PM | RobbieF | Thanks all! Hope you enjoyed yourselves!
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08:00:45 PM | _Jot_ | woohoo! next time go for 500 RobbieF
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08:00:52 PM | agamotto | RobbieF, I would have had to stop at least three times for hairballs
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08:00:53 PM | DGTLDNA | night all
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08:00:56 PM | Drumstick | Thanks Robbie & Eric!!
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08:00:59 PM | frederickrabbit | Bye Glad to participate....somewhat hehe
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08:01:00 PM | EricKidd | Robbie smells like cough-candies!
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08:01:16 PM | Cory` | EricKidd, rofl!
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08:01:18 PM | agamotto | At least he doesn't smell like mugwort
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08:01:20 PM | RobbieF | Bless the cough candies!
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08:01:26 PM | RobbieF | they allowed me to be here tonight :)
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08:01:36 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | What's a cough candle?
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08:01:38 PM | EricKidd | I've never smelled a mugwort!
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08:01:41 PM | Cory` | RobbieF, lol
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08:01:44 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, just wait untill the baby pops out and he smells like baby-produce
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08:02:08 PM | mindlord | Good show. even with the difficulties.
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08:02:19 PM | EricKidd | That, I have smelled!
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08:02:21 PM | RobbieF | Thanks :)
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08:02:32 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | RobbieF, excited about Netflix in Canada?
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08:02:34 PM | Gadwil-Office | Anyone else get their access to the NewTwitter yet?
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08:02:37 PM | frederickrabbit | maybe next time robbie
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08:02:38 PM | Cory` | Good Show, as always :)
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08:02:45 PM | Cory` | Gadwil-Office, no :(
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08:02:46 PM | Cory` | I wish
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08:02:51 PM | agamotto | "Holy Father, blessed be thy name, we thank thee this day our candied cough drops, for they allow us to sing thy praise, amen." Thus endeth the lesson....
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08:02:59 PM | RobbieF | lol
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08:03:00 PM | Gadwil-Office | I got mine today, it is really nice.
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08:03:10 PM | Cory` | Lucky
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08:03:17 PM | agamotto | Not being a twit, can't say as I have:)
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08:03:58 PM | agamotto | I am something of a roll tonight...
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08:04:01 PM | Gadwil-Office | I don't even know how I got it so early compared to other people, I barely Tweet, I mainly use it to get news.
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08:04:15 PM | agamotto | Randomized, I bet
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08:06:02 PM | evermind | seems my domain cache is having probs
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08:06:19 PM | Gadwil-Office | So flush the DNS.
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08:06:26 PM | agamotto | evermind: check out your stuff with Google Namebench
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08:06:43 PM | evermind | gadwil, already did that
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08:06:52 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | I need to flash my router sometime soon
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08:06:52 PM | evermind | now checking the dns queries on my router
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