Chat Logs for Episode 168 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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Chat Logs:

06:59:07 PMWreken Hi Robbie and All........,, good luck today- break a leg
06:59:10 PM_Jot_ Eric, afraid that people will think you are visiting Robbie? :)
06:59:17 PMRobbieF thanks
06:59:19 PMRobbieF have fun all!
06:59:20 PMajamison5579 mmm chedar burgers and french fries
06:59:24 PMEricKidd me no got dots!
06:59:44 PMpyrosrock ah dam its starting to rain i may have to go
07:00:02 PM_Jot_ check failed... you forgot the discover card
07:00:24 PMevermind there we go, coming in perfectly
07:00:33 PMjamalexa Good Evening Cat5 Universe
07:00:37 PMGatorman Looking good
07:00:50 PMEricKidd Here we gooooo!!!!
07:00:55 PMpyrosrock is it suposed to be HD?
07:01:22 PMGadgetWisdomGuru It looks better
07:01:40 PMajamison5579 good how is the new fam member robbief
07:01:43 PM_Jot_ yeah, Robbie looks a bit pale, but that's about all that's weird
07:01:48 PMevermind good quality tonight, yah
07:02:03 PMGadgetWisdomGuru _Jot_: RobbieF isn't pale, he's just Canadian
07:02:09 PMGadgetWisdomGuru You can just finally see it
07:02:11 PMevermind yah, this is natural colors
07:02:17 PMlanceman Hello everyone.
07:02:18 PMevermind no glowing icon thingy tonight;)
07:02:25 PM_Jot_ plus the horror creeps in of having another mouth to feed
07:02:53 PMwarcow105 hey everyone
07:02:59 PM_Jot_ hi warcow
07:03:03 PMevermind hi warcow
07:03:09 PMGatorman Coolbeans!
07:03:22 PMevermind so, anyone around with tech q
07:03:31 PMGadgetWisdomGuru RobbieF, feel free to have Hillary plug Android Buffet
07:03:32 PM_Jot_ Hillary, I hope you have enough food and stuff
07:03:49 PMevermind i had a lil tech fail, just closed myself out of one of my testing vps
07:04:05 PMevermind firewall mod load error, now im off till the hosting guy gets in
07:04:06 PM_Jot_ Hillary, don't eat the yellow snow!
07:04:08 PMGregInTexas it's cold here too ... no snow though ... lol
07:04:17 PMGatorman How cold is it where you are, Christy?
07:04:19 PMHillary ewww yellow snowww!
07:04:37 PMwarcow105 blue snow means it was a smurf
07:04:39 PMwarcow105 lol
07:04:59 PM_Jot_ hey!
07:05:03 PMpyrosrock RobbieF wheres the difrent feed quality options?
07:05:08 PMWreken What? Chisty is here? Where's the weather report!
07:05:24 PMWreken i dont believe
07:05:25 PM_Jot_ there's lots of snow and cold here too, very unexpected
07:05:25 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I'm going to Florida on Thursday.
07:05:29 PMGregInTexas snow ... now they're braggin'
07:05:37 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Of course, it is 40 degrees F in Florida now. Curses
07:05:49 PMajamison5579 I hate snow
07:05:59 PMajamison5579 it white powedery evil
07:06:07 PMGatorman Try 25 F, not 40F
07:06:07 PMGregInTexas I love snow ... probably won't have any in west texas this year
07:06:18 PMevermind noscript -> enable site, or disable tor
07:06:46 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gatorman: It feels like 27 in New York City.
07:06:53 PMevermind ahhh, this is a feature
07:06:54 PMevermind )
07:07:02 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gatorman: either way, why am I going to Florida if it is just as cold as here?
07:07:14 PMGatorman Dress warm
07:07:21 PMwarcow105 GadgetWisdomGuru, what part of fl
07:07:24 PM_Jot_ Robbie has to convert all the users by first guessing their password so he can enter it in the new site
07:07:35 PMGadgetWisdomGuru warcow105: Heading to South Florida.
07:07:50 PMGadgetWisdomGuru warcow105: Why? Know someone in South Florida who might want to say hi?
07:08:04 PMpyrosrock _Jot_ lol
07:08:05 PMWreken Lock down? R we under arrest?
07:08:07 PMwarcow105 no just wondering lol
07:08:17 PMGregInTexas picture does look good ...
07:08:32 PMCory` With HD EricKidd's tiredness comes throw a lot clearer (j/k)
07:08:50 PMCory` through**
07:08:54 PM_Jot_ his beard is graying, he is turning into santa claus
07:08:55 PMEricKidd Hey, Cory, be nice!!!
07:09:00 PMGatorman Ah, just imagine how ugly Eric will be in HD
07:09:02 PMCory` EricKidd, :P
07:09:09 PMCory` You need to tweet more
07:09:28 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I do love the quality.
07:09:31 PM_Jot_ is the coffee with high caffeine now too?
07:09:40 PMajamison5579 it looks grey tinted the mug i mean
07:09:43 PMCory` _Jot_, lol
07:09:45 PMlanceman Hey Robbie, it's 25 degrees in Rochester, N.Y. with a wind chill of 17 degrees.
07:09:46 PMwarcow105 RobbieF is just happy no one is picking on him tonight lol
07:09:47 PMGadwil Why won't the 64 bit flash work in Fedora like it does in Ubuntu?
07:09:58 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: What's wrong with it? I'm using it now.
07:10:17 PMGatorman How about betcha?
07:10:17 PMWreken Eric is great------ He'll get in tune soon !
07:10:29 PMpyrosrock i say beata
07:11:00 PMGadwil GWG, I am using the "Square" which is naitive 64 bit flash. I copied to ~/.mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and it still won't register.
07:11:01 PMajamison5579 I say Be-to-the-a
07:11:05 PMGregInTexas not me, by the way
07:11:06 PMajamison5579 lol
07:11:17 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: Copy it to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
07:11:22 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Not to /usr/lib
07:11:51 PMGadwil GWG, I don't have lib64
07:11:57 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Od
07:12:04 PMGadgetWisdomGuru And you said it's a 64-bit install?
07:12:06 PMGadwil yet I used the i686 live CD to install.
07:12:17 PMGadgetWisdomGuru then you can't use the 64-bit plugin
07:12:23 PMGadgetWisdomGuru You installed the 32-bit Fedora
07:12:32 PMHillary oops
07:12:34 PMHillary hahaha
07:12:36 PMGadwil ARGH!
07:12:38 PMGregInTexas lol
07:12:53 PMGuest_9034 make a recovery cd
07:12:55 PMGadwil I need to completely re-install this system then! So apparently there is no 64bit live cd!
07:13:02 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: Yes, there is
07:13:08 PMGadwil Then I can't find it.
07:13:14 PMpyrosrock lol
07:13:23 PMGregInTexas I dual booted vista and ubuntu 10.04 ... was a waste of time as I've never booted into windows again ...
07:13:37 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora//releases/14/Live/x86_64/
07:13:43 PMajamison5579 windows 7 most versions have built in backup
07:13:45 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Both the Gnome and the KDE version
07:13:59 PMGadwil GWG, I want a torrent, not FTP download.
07:14:01 PMajamison5579 that works well but not duper high wuality
07:14:02 PM_Jot_ Gadwil, http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options
07:14:05 PMajamison5579 quality
07:14:29 PMGadwil I knew there IS a 64bit, just not available from the torrent page where I looked. There is only a 64 bit DVD install.
07:14:34 PMGadgetWisdomGuru http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-14-x86_64-CDs.torrent
07:14:45 PMGadgetWisdomGuru That's the Install CD
07:15:00 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Here is the 64-bit Live CD
07:15:01 PMGadgetWisdomGuru http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents/Fedora-14-x86_64-Live.torrent
07:15:04 PMcalhydro sound tonite is a little nasal sounding
07:15:06 PMGadgetWisdomGuru It is right on the Torrent page, Gadwil
07:15:12 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Not sure why you don't see it
07:15:14 PMpyrosrock yeah i do mine manualy but i have rooted the system a copple times lol
07:15:22 PMGadwil Thanks GWG, I will download later when I am on my office PC again.
07:15:37 PMGadwil I went to the torrent link from the site, it showed a ton of downloads, just none 64bit live.
07:16:00 PMGadwil I see it now.
07:16:01 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Dear RobbieF, can you tell us more about how and why you were able to get to the new HD feed?
07:16:33 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, you touched it, you eat it
07:16:48 PMcalhydro halloween candy?
07:17:23 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you can promise him a 100% raise, after all, 100% of 0, is still 0
07:17:42 PMcalhydro the show where nothing happens
07:18:07 PMpyrosrock danm guna miss some gota go :(
07:18:26 PMGadwil yay, I am finally watching the show!
07:18:28 PMevermind bah humbug
07:18:38 PMEricKidd The candy was wrapped in plastic
07:18:56 PMevermind im usually getting the mp4
07:19:19 PMevermind lower qual, but can keep a gazillion of your eps on my profile
07:19:21 PMGadwil RobbieF, Yes, I prefer Divx.
07:19:27 PMGatorman Any experience with Natty Narwhal yet?
07:19:28 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, not that bend stick thingy, that wasn't in plastic
07:19:30 PMWreken *** I think something MUST Change! Either wear brighter shirts; Or, change the Backdrop! Just a suggestion***
07:19:33 PMevermind yea, partly
07:19:36 PMevermind lazyness;)
07:19:41 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I'm using the beta feed RobbieF supplied.
07:19:46 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, lol :)
07:19:47 PMEricKidd Last week's show, "a show about nothing" :) However, chock full of geeky goodness!
07:19:48 PMGadwil I have played with Narwhal... Nothing really changing yet.
07:19:52 PMGadwil Just updates mainly.
07:20:09 PMGatorman Gadwil, I couldn;t find any new stuff either
07:20:17 PMevermind ill give the h264 one a try, if it works on my mediacenter...
07:20:18 PMevermind thx for the heads up
07:20:30 PMGadwil Gatorman, There is one or two new things, but they aren't that important.
07:20:39 PMGatorman OK
07:20:57 PMGadwil On the plus side, this is my first time watching live from a Fedora system!
07:21:01 PMGadgetWisdomGuru RobbieF, next week, get EricKidd a set of Chinese handcuffs.
07:21:10 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: Once you put on the hat, you never go back
07:21:30 PMcalhydro Robbie: I have been using VLC to grab frames from videos its really easy, but is there another app where you can control the resolution of frame/snapshot?
07:21:35 PMYazid WOW! lol
07:21:38 PMGadwil GWG, So far this 32 and 64 bit mixup issue has made me mad. But Arch will still remain my main system.
07:21:47 PMGadwil I just decided to give Fedora a true use shot.
07:21:54 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: That isn't Fedora's fault.
07:22:02 PMWreken Thats it, brake out the Jameson's
07:22:17 PMwarcow105 mmmm jameson
07:22:21 PMGadwil yes GWG, It is me having reading issues with a mix of perhaps some missing bits to a web page.
07:22:40 PMGadwil Or a mis-representation of the page on my Windows 7 box downstairs in 64-bit IE9.
07:22:40 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil, happy to help if you need more. Ajamison is also a fedora user
07:22:49 PMajamison5579 aye
07:23:00 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: It must be a Microsoft conspiracy
07:23:00 PMCory` If you don't have anything tech to say, don't say anything at all
07:23:01 PMCory` :P
07:23:04 PMGadwil GWG, I think with the Yum-extender tip I am good to go.
07:23:13 PMWreken I can look in the cubbord for the correct spelling if you need.
07:23:27 PMGadwil No, IE9 64bit still has A LOT of layout issues. Things on constantly overlapping, I just forgot I was in 64 bit version.
07:23:55 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: I was kidding about the Microsoft conspiracy
07:23:59 PMajamison5579 i have windows 7 64bit and there are very few issues
07:24:07 PMajamison5579 with regards to using 32bit
07:24:10 PMGadwil GWG, I think it is an honest theory though.
07:24:26 PMGadwil ajamison, Windows is a bit of a different issue.
07:24:33 PMYazid @RobbieF - can you put a script together and place on your site for the Pogoplug drive? Or add it to perfectbuntu?
07:24:39 PMGadwil well, Drivers yea, but not software.
07:24:43 PMajamison5579 i was refering to what Robbief said
07:24:49 PMevermind yah, try to install cs3 on a win7 64bit
07:24:53 PMevermind tell me if it works
07:24:54 PMevermind ;)
07:25:03 PMajamison5579 evermind why i use CS5
07:25:14 PMGadwil If I owned a copy of CS3, Yes I would try. But almost all my 32bit stuff works perfectly in Win 7 64.
07:25:19 PMevermind cs5 is fine with 64bit 7
07:25:21 PMGadwil So long as it isn't a Debian or tar.xz package.
07:25:35 PMGadwil CS5 yea, it was built very recently.
07:25:54 PMevermind i had the situation with my current company, ppls upgraded their systems, then had to upgrade their adobe cs licenses
07:26:00 PMevermind sometimes you only learn by paying
07:26:03 PMajamison5579 64bit has no speed increase unless applications are coded to use 64bit threads and more memory
07:26:19 PMGadgetWisdomGuru ajamison5579: On Linux, many things are compiled 64-bit though
07:26:30 PMGadwil I learned yesterday, in order to bypass my schools firewall, all I need to do is type in the actual IP, therefore bypassing DNS.
07:26:46 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: There is also Ubuntu DVD's
07:26:48 PMevermind then its not really a fw
07:26:51 PMajamison5579 yeah but how many are compiled in true 64bit or are just compiled on a 64bit machine
07:26:54 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Gadwil: I could tell you stories about the ease of bypassing such things.
07:27:02 PMevermind sounds more like the normal proxy blocking thing
07:27:14 PMevermind there are nicer tricks to bypass your schools proxy though
07:27:17 PMevermind choose a public dns
07:27:27 PMevermind that way you wont use your schools resolver, works alot of the times
07:27:29 PMGadwil GWG, I have tried many things. One thing I am testing now is running Adito on a home VM, and accessing that via DynDNS and port forwarding and getting websites that way.
07:27:30 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Evermind, I used to use SSH tunneling to my home system to bypass Websense.
07:27:44 PMevermind yah, ssh is the 100% working one
07:27:44 PMGadwil evermind, they can tell when I change the DNS.
07:27:52 PMGadgetWisdomGuru You can download putty without needing to install it direct from the web
07:27:56 PMGadwil I can never get SSH working, they scramble the ports too.
07:28:05 PMevermind so you switch ports;)
07:28:17 PMScorpio55 flashvideoreplacer plugin
07:28:38 PMGadwil evermind, They even move HTTP from port 80 to something else. I don't know what those ports are, nor do I have a way to tell. if you happen to know, please inform me.
07:28:45 PMajamison5579 Adobe is the worst thing to happen to flash
07:28:49 PMGadwil There Proxy is through port 8080, if that can help at all
07:28:56 PMajamison5579 Macromedia did a better job with it
07:29:14 PMevermind have you tried to remove the proxy settings from your browser, if theyre not having em in global policy
07:29:20 PMwarcow105 http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Corkscrew_-_ssh_over_https
07:29:24 PMwarcow105 try that
07:29:39 PMevermind yah, a tunnel, like with what gwg mentoined above
07:29:52 PMGadwil evermind, If I remove the proxy, I get no internet access period, not even Intranet access.
07:30:20 PMHillary whats the diff between internet and intranet?
07:30:27 PMevermind intranet would be lan
07:30:29 PMevermind like your home pcs
07:30:30 PMwarcow105 intranet is internal to a company
07:30:33 PM_Jot_ Hillary, intranet is a network, internet is a network of networks
07:30:36 PMGadwil Triple-booting on a single HDD bad idea. I constantly have issues doing that. I say to triple boot with at least 2 drives.
07:30:37 PMevermind internet is everything that goes over your isp assigned ip
07:30:45 PMHillary hmm interesting.
07:30:54 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: I run Terabyte's BootIt NG.... makes triple booting easy
07:31:18 PMevermind Gadwil, good q, id go and analyse how theyre routing
07:31:21 PMevermind route print
07:31:26 PMevermind should give you some routing info
07:31:39 PMevermind you could then try around with net route add
07:31:43 PMGadwil I was getting in trouble for being in Webchat, in this room actually. try explaining to a dim-witted principal that you were doing nothing wrong and they are completely stupid and oblivious as to what is going on.... Not easy.
07:31:43 PM_Jot_ Hillary, intranet itsself doesn't mean anything, it was 'invented' as a marketingterm to make a network sound interesting
07:31:47 PMevermind and see what you get into that list
07:31:54 PMHillary gotchaaaa.\
07:32:10 PMGadwil evermind, Route print? I do know any traceroutes are blocked.
07:32:17 PMevermind its not a traceroute
07:32:29 PMGoodGuy a new version is due out in a couple weeks
07:32:31 PMGadwil So what is this Route print stuff? Never heard of it before.
07:32:32 PMevermind it just tells you where your computer is going through, local settings, no remote damage done
07:32:47 PMevermind its like ipconfig
07:32:53 PMevermind just gives different info;)
07:32:56 PMGoodGuy I have owned it for years and first time they are updating the major version
07:32:57 PMGadwil so the exact command is " route print"?
07:33:04 PMevermind yep
07:33:13 PMGadwil Windows or Linux?
07:33:19 PMevermind you could also check more commandline switches via route /?
07:33:21 PMGadwil I have access to both in Cisco class.
07:33:23 PMevermind windows
07:33:28 PMGadwil Great.
07:33:32 PMGadwil Thanks for the tip.
07:33:34 PMGadwil ;)
07:33:38 PMevermind linux would be just "route"
07:33:54 PMGoodGuy The world is ending 2012, so Windows 8 can go down with it lol
07:34:26 PMGadwil Oh, does anyone know of issues using Zenworks to image an Ext4 FS? we were having issues and had to roll back to ext 3 fs to get imagining to work.
07:34:27 PMGregInTexas ugh ... risky release?
07:34:29 PMevermind not sites shutodwn
07:34:31 PMevermind just the domains
07:34:36 PMevermind the names are gone the ips are still there
07:34:38 PMevermind ;)
07:34:54 PMevermind the usual security by obscurity
07:35:42 PMwarcow105 lol, good job Hillary
07:36:00 PMevermind talking bout dns names, peter sund is currently working on something called p2pdns
07:36:16 PM_Jot_ a-me-the-ra
07:36:19 PMGadwil I would love to try p2pdns. Sounds good.
07:36:26 PMGoodGuy Terabyte also sells imaging products with Windows, Linux and DOS versions... I have used it to backup and restore my EXT4 partitions
07:36:29 PMevermind id love to try though, atm only for fun though
07:36:47 PMevermind some admins are horrified, since when everyone plays names, everyone can put anyone up with some name
07:36:51 PMGoodGuy Image for Windows, etc
07:37:23 PMGadwil goodguy, Unfortuatly we must use Novell Zenworks, it is what the school uses when imaging drives to the mainframes.
07:37:39 PMYazid Great job Hillary
07:37:43 PMGoodGuy The interfaces aren't good looking, but it worked fine
07:38:06 PMGoodGuy Zenworks is new to me
07:38:29 PMevermind theres a ton of these products out there, still, if youve seen one imagine soft...
07:38:53 PMGregInTexas we use zenworks for windows machines, but didn't know it would even work with linux machines
07:39:02 PMGoodGuy Acronis charges for a new release when they fix bugs
07:39:04 PMGregInTexas I'm not telling the network people
07:39:43 PMevermind welcome daliwiti
07:39:58 PMGoodGuy I see too many bad ratings when I read Acronis user reviews
07:40:03 PMHillary alrighty people, enjoy the rest of the show i must depart!
07:40:10 PMGadwil Bye Hillary!
07:40:12 PMevermind cu hillary
07:40:12 PMwarcow105 see ya Hillary
07:40:12 PMGoodGuy Bye Miss Hillary
07:40:14 PMGregInTexas enjoyed it Hillary!
07:40:15 PMevermind thx for the news
07:40:19 PMWreken good luck.. coolbeans.. stay warm
07:40:30 PMHillary keep it real people! :) cool beans to you!
07:40:48 PMlanceman Bye Hillary
07:41:18 PMGoodGuy I watch a podcast from Dr Bill... he showed a Techpodcasts.com iirc
07:41:23 PMGadwil i want Cat5 Desktop player!
07:41:24 PMGuest_2889 miss you more Hillary
07:41:31 PMGoodGuy Something close to that spelling
07:41:42 PMevermind a podcast is a term originally brought to use from the apple ppls, for something that used to be an audio recording, isnt it
07:42:13 PMGoodGuy http://www.techpodcasts.com/
07:42:31 PMGoodGuy You should add cat5 to them
07:42:47 PMGadgetWisdomGuru GoodGuy: My podcast is on the Tech Podcast Network
07:43:15 PMGoodGuy Maybe you can pass the info along to RobbieF and join you there
07:43:17 PMGadwil RobbieF, If they have a guest-room I hope it comes with a dictionary that teaches proper pronunciation.
07:43:31 PMGadgetWisdomGuru GoodGuy: Any particular reason?
07:43:39 PMlanceman Hey GWG, what is the name of your podcast.
07:43:43 PMGoodGuy More exposure
07:43:48 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Android Buffet - www.androidbuffet.com
07:44:07 PMwarcow105 hey hey, no cross promotion
07:44:10 PMwarcow105 lol jk
07:44:10 PMlanceman GWG Thank you.
07:45:01 PMGadwil I would rather just turn UAC off. Saves me plenty of time and hassel.
07:45:07 PMNewa place to check for local guestrooms: http://www.couchsurfing.org/
07:45:12 PMevermind uac.me
07:45:43 PMevermind wow, now that is secure
07:46:34 PMGregInTexas looks like you are pumping out episodes GWG ...
07:46:45 PMajamison5579 u can control the sensativety of UAC in windows 7
07:46:47 PMevermind one could tell the coders to not run stuff in ring zero
07:46:51 PMGadgetWisdomGuru GregInTexas: 21 will be released tonight, hopefully. Gingerbread galore
07:46:59 PMevermind but thats really out of the topic
07:47:07 PMGadwil RobbieF, I think it is more to try to emulate the privilege raising like Linux/Unix systems.
07:47:30 PMGregInTexas I'll listen when this is done ...
07:47:45 PMGregInTexas You were just getting started last time I was on android buffet
07:48:09 PMCory` RobbieF, have you mentioned anything about Synapse, the new GNOME-Do?
07:48:36 PMevermind talking bout new stuff, anyone tried 11.04 yet?
07:48:41 PMGregInTexas anyone have experience with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.10?
07:48:45 PMevermind im a bit scared by their switch on desktop
07:49:24 PMevermind 11.04 would be ubu 11.04
07:49:33 PMGregInTexas does Compviz still run on Unity?
07:50:01 PMevermind i dont think its something in unity telling compiz not to run
07:50:10 PMevermind its more a q of is your gfx chip supported
07:50:29 PMGregInTexas really ... so compviz is independent of gnome?
07:50:34 PMevermind it always was
07:50:52 PMGregInTexas so you could run compviz on kde or unity or whatever .... hmmm
07:50:58 PMevermind of course
07:51:09 PMevermind its "between" your windowserver and your desktop env
07:51:14 PMGregInTexas still not an expert on linux on the desktop
07:51:40 PMGuest_4877 what the difference between ubuntu and kbuntu?
07:51:45 PMGregInTexas I mainly use it to admin my linux servers, but am playing more and more
07:51:55 PMevermind thats why the animations on 11.04 already work, they didnt have to migrate with gnomeshell
07:52:03 PMGregInTexas ubuntu comes with gnome, kubuntu comes with kde
07:52:06 PMGoodGuy Unity doesn't work in Virtualbox (on my system anyway)
07:52:10 PMevermind kubuntu comes with kde as default, ubuntu with gnome as default
07:52:18 PMevermind but you can change em to your needs vice versa
07:52:37 PMevermind theres kde in ubuntu too, all you have to do is install it
07:52:40 PMGoodGuy I added it to my 10.10 system, but its a normal install
07:53:03 PMGregInTexas do you like kde? vs gnome?
07:53:13 PMevermind for your virtualbox setup, what exact error do you get when you try to install unity, goodguy?
07:53:19 PMevermind im a gnome user
07:53:31 PMGadwil Odd, my GIMP normally says Gradient.
07:53:32 PMevermind it has its odds, but in general, i became attached to it over the years
07:53:34 PMGregInTexas I've not tried KDE in years and years
07:53:40 PMGoodGuy It says it doesnt support it w/o 3D support, but I turned that on
07:53:56 PMevermind ive used kde1x and kde2x, then switched to gnome 1.4.x
07:54:01 PMGoodGuy I did some google searching and others have the same problem
07:54:07 PMevermind had some waimea and openbox inbetween
07:54:13 PMevermind but then back to gnome and never switched back
07:54:17 PMGregInTexas I did too, evermind
07:54:37 PMGregInTexas I tried gnome on SUSE and never went back
07:54:57 PMGoodGuy Mint seems like KDE on a GNOME system
07:55:05 PMevermind GoodGuy, that could have many reasons, what does the log say when you try to start it, and have you tried to start compiz stuff from the shell?
07:55:06 PMGoodGuy KDE like menu look
07:55:13 PMevermind sometimes shell output tells alot bout why things fail
07:55:23 PMGoodGuy No evermind.. I didnt pursue it that far
07:55:31 PMGadwil Anyone have a good guide to installing the Proprietary Nvidia drivers in Fedora?
07:55:33 PMGregInTexas I have a friend that is raving about the KDE
07:55:46 PMevermind Gadwil, rpm -Uvh nvidia*.rpm
07:55:48 PMevermind ;)
07:55:51 PMevermind no joke
07:55:59 PMGoodGuy I installed Unity on my real 10.10 install just to get an idea what it looks like
07:56:23 PMGadwil Evermind, IS there any way to install via Yum?
07:56:38 PMevermind if you find a fedora repo of em, yes
07:56:41 PMevermind never checked though
07:56:42 PMGadwil I installed the drivers from there (173) and the control settings.
07:56:51 PMFemi there is also a gimp podcast tutorial
07:56:51 PMFemi http://feedpixel.com/14
07:57:15 PMGadwil I tried running the config command earlier, didn't work, just re-ran it and this time it says it created the new xorg.conf file, so once I reboot I am hoping it works.
07:57:22 PMGoodGuy I believe I saw a few in Miro Femi
07:57:34 PMGadwil I will use this 32bit system to get all the kinks out of my installation, then I will install the 64bit one later.
07:58:56 PMGadwil Ooo, more breakage coming soon to Cat5.tv!
07:58:58 PMevermind 11.04 unity and compiz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhhGjwR-xIY
07:59:16 PMGadwil I love it when Robbie has to work through the wirecast issues that come up.
07:59:20 PMGadwil at least they aren't often.
07:59:23 PMYazid @gadwil http://rpmfusion.org/
07:59:31 PMGadwil and normally not related to wirecast.... how odd.
07:59:36 PMGregInTexas boy those look weird
07:59:47 PMevermind 3d glasses
07:59:53 PMGregInTexas yep
07:59:57 PMcalhydro bye bye guys
07:59:58 PMevermind for the extra kick out of real life;)
08:00:01 PMGregInTexas looks like a pirate
08:00:05 PMGadwil Yazid, I think I am already using those Repo's.
08:00:17 PMevermind hehehe, it kinda remembered me on a sniper
08:00:18 PMGregInTexas show already over ... boy that was fast
08:00:24 PMwarcow105 fun fun fun as always
08:00:28 PMevermind indeed
08:00:29 PMevermind nice show
08:00:30 PMYazid There's a how to for the drivers on the website
08:00:31 PMGadwil Now I get to catch the re-run tomorrow or Thursday.
08:00:38 PMFemi good night from sweden
08:00:49 PMGregInTexas night Femi
08:00:50 PMGadwil Ok, thanks yazid, but I think I just got it working a few moments ago, just need to reboot to test.
08:01:07 PMYazid you're welcome
08:01:16 PMYazid Good night all

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