Chat Logs for Episode 179 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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Chat Logs:

07:00:31 PMEricKidd Hello Cat5 World!
07:00:47 PMGadwil Hello EricKidd... Did you happen to learn how to pronounce this week?
07:00:51 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Tonights episode of Category 5 is brought to me by Roku
07:01:16 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- Coolies... so far, so good
07:01:28 PM_Jot_ youre getting old RobbieF... 200!
07:01:51 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: My HTPC is locked in my apartment
07:01:59 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Im in my parents place, due to renovation
07:02:08 PMGadgetWisdomGuru The new tile floor wont set till tomorow
07:02:18 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- Ahh, finally time to clear out to finish the job, eh?
07:02:18 PM_Jot_ maybe it will turn borg and take over the place
07:02:46 PMGadwil What did I miss of the show while the Chips Ahoy ad was playing?
07:02:47 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: clear out of where?
07:03:17 PMagamotto The apartment... you know, making room so you can tear things apart
07:03:27 PMGadwil RobbieF, Could we possibly select the best 2 we like?... I like Banter AND Question time.
07:03:56 PMagamotto Can we skip the banter and get right to the colorful metaphors?
07:04:36 PMagamotto Gadwil- Nothing really, just some howdys
07:04:52 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: Im repairing the floor after water damage.
07:05:00 PMGadwil agamotto, I was mainly trying to do a stupid rant. But thanks for the update.
07:05:28 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- Ahhh, I thought you were doing walls and such.... how bad are the floors?
07:05:41 PMagamotto Gadwil- :)
07:05:52 PMagamotto RobbieF- Isn
07:06:02 PMRiverRat Robbie I was wondering how I could use a android device with ubuntu computer? To share files, etc.
07:06:05 PMagamotto t that the whole point of giving the kids limited accounts?
07:06:10 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: The floor was laminate. Water resistant, not water proof. Im going with tile to protect against the need for future replacement, so complete reflooring
07:06:19 PMGregInTexas No snow in Texas right now ...
07:06:26 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- Ahhh, yah. not fun
07:06:50 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: Fortunately, they laid the floor today, tomorrow is grout.
07:07:05 PMagamotto Oh good, you will be back in short orde
07:07:20 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Yes.
07:07:30 PMNew2Linux_ok I want to run Windows and Linux with same monitor, but have two separate computers. What kind of switch or software do I need?
07:07:32 PMagamotto Bekah!!! yay
07:07:59 PMagamotto New2Linux_ok- Does the monitor have both VGA and DVI inputs?
07:08:30 PMNew2Linux_ok yes
07:08:47 PMGuest_1654 You need a KVM switch.
07:08:55 PM_Jot_ if it has 2 connections, just connect both
07:09:01 PMagamotto New2Linux_ok- put one computer on the VGA, the other on DVI, and switch between them
07:09:16 PMmathman47 Like I am now.
07:09:52 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- is watching now on the Roku....
07:10:19 PMNew2Linux_ok agamotto and Guest_1654 thanks
07:10:22 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: Im watching on the Justin.tv private channel
07:10:27 PMagamotto Welcome...
07:10:36 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- ooops
07:10:44 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- I wont tell
07:10:50 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Not on a dedicated channel for Category 5
07:11:13 PMGadgetWisdomGuru But, I can give RobbieF instructions on how to enable the Justin.tv channel
07:11:55 PMagamotto If Bekah is doing the news, who is minding the terror tots?
07:12:06 PMGadwil agamotto, Their dreams.
07:12:10 PM_Jot_ ahhh.. the power of prerecording
07:12:43 PMdman810 Hello GoodGuy
07:12:47 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I use ffmpeg, as opposed to mencoder
07:12:53 PMGoodGuy hi dman810
07:13:38 PMGadwil I use Handbrake to convert my video files.
07:13:51 PMGadwil oh, is he recording from a webcam?
07:13:54 PMGadwil or she?
07:14:25 PMagamotto Is anyone messing with the alpha/beta of 11.04?
07:14:31 PMGadwil So conversion... Yea, plenty of free programs vs having to use terminal if you feel unsafe for some reason.
07:14:47 PMGadwil agamotto, Downloaded, but no VM set up yet, doing that tomorrow.
07:14:59 PMGoodGuy I tried, but it didnt seem ready for prime time or I wasnt
07:15:17 PMagamotto Coolies. I was wondering about impressions so far
07:15:24 PMGadwil GoodGuy, it is alpha, with some major changes. It shouldnt be ready for primetime.
07:15:27 PMGoodGuy I believe its still at Alpha 2
07:15:46 PMGadwil agamotto, Just from Screenshots and vids I have seen... not good. I hate the change to Unity by default leaving out Gnome Shell.
07:16:15 PMGoodGuy Lately I am playing with Pinguy OS... an enhanced version of Ubuntu
07:16:30 PMRiverRat has anyone bought an Android tablet yet ?
07:16:42 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I bought a Nook Color and turned it into an Android tablet
07:17:00 PMGoodGuy You can install Unity on 10,10,, I have it installed, but stay in Gnome
07:17:07 PMagamotto Not I. I might buy something when the Pixel Qi or color e-paper screens become more affordable
07:17:38 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: Didnt they cancel the Qi? Or am I misremembering?
07:17:40 PMRiverRat I have a Color Nook but not made any changes to it yet. How does it work ?
07:17:47 PMGoodGuy It provides another logon screen allowing the user to select Desktop or Netbook
07:18:06 PMagamotto GadgetWisdomGuru- No idea, I keep hearing conflicting stories about suppliers who have/dont have the screen
07:18:13 PMGadwil RobbieF, Using OpenDNS is also good for helping stop bot/malware traffic outgoing from your network.
07:18:15 PMGadgetWisdomGuru agamotto: Ok
07:18:38 PMRiverRat Does all features work ?
07:18:53 PMagamotto OpenDNS has done wonders for some of my Windows-dependent friends
07:19:03 PMGadgetWisdomGuru RiverRat: if you flash an alternate ROM, which is still under development, yes.
07:19:10 PMGadwil I hooked it up at my dads comic shop, and on our home network.
07:19:17 PMdman810 What can I do if my wireless Router only has WEP?
07:19:24 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, we all fell asleep with that long URL
07:19:31 PMmathman47 Enough, go there already!
07:19:34 PMagamotto dman810- Replace it... unfortunately
07:19:38 PMausrob amen jot
07:19:46 PMGoodGuy Shop for a newer model dman810?
07:19:47 PMdman810 Thanks agamotto
07:19:59 PMdman810 thanks Goodguy
07:20:24 PM_Jot_ dman810, look if it runs ddwrt
07:20:37 PMmathman47 Even though Im a Win 7 user, Im OK?
07:20:42 PMdman810 I am trying too!!
07:20:54 PMagamotto mathman47- yah, you are at least Penguin-friendly
07:20:57 PMdman810 _Jot_ mine does not
07:21:12 PM_Jot_ dman810, then like others said, thats so old, youll want a new one
07:21:22 PMdman810 Trying to catch up, watching about 4 hours a day to catch up
07:21:27 PM_Jot_ hey Christy
07:21:30 PMagamotto dman810- Check the dd-wrt or tomato site and see if your model is on the list
07:21:38 PM_Jot_ Christy, hows the weather?
07:21:48 PMdman810 I will check Tomato Thanks
07:21:54 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Hi, Christy.
07:22:00 PMGadgetWisdomGuru Wonder why Christy didnt fill in for the news
07:22:09 PMGadwil Open DDWRT has been very good. If only QOS was configured properly.
07:22:11 PM_Jot_ probably she wasnt there yet
07:22:12 PMdman810 Thanks Robbie
07:22:21 PMRiverRat Hi, Christy from River Rat
07:22:36 PMdman810 I think that I am almost there with the old episodes
07:22:49 PMdman810 I doing 4 a day!!
07:23:35 PMGoodGuy More space, less money in your pocket! :-)
07:23:41 PMagamotto ?? In my 20+ years of computing, I have had only four dead/bad hard drives...
07:23:50 PMdman810 GoodGuy - do you use unraid?
07:24:08 PMGoodGuy No, I use FreeNAS 7 - No RAID
07:24:13 PMGadgetWisdomGuru everyone send in their URLs pre-shortened.
07:24:21 PMdman810 I have my freenas runnig alos
07:24:24 PMdman810 also
07:24:25 PMausrob dman810 I do use Unraid and love it
07:24:35 PMGoodGuy I like FreeNAS 7
07:24:37 PMGadwil You need to have 3d effects enabled in Vbox. Further have Guest addiitons installed to give it the driver for 3d, and have enough VRAM assigned to the box.
07:25:05 PMagamotto 256mb should usually work for the VRAM
07:25:07 PMdman810 I have a FreeNAS - looking at UnRAID, w
07:25:23 PMGadwil agamotto, You can only assing up to 128MB VRAM in a Virtual Machine.
07:25:44 PMGoodGuy Have to reinstall Guest Additions after installing the nVidia drivers. It patches the kernel iirc
07:25:50 PMagamotto Gadwil- even for 3d style? That sucks
07:26:05 PMGadwil agamotto, Yea, 128 is absolute max VRAM assignment.
07:26:24 PMGoodGuy If that doesnt work, do the opposite.. one of the two work
07:26:34 PMGoodGuy I forget which did it
07:26:40 PMGadwil I have 1GB of VRAM on my card, so i can run like 3 or 4 Guests with max memory before getting dangerous.
07:26:57 PMdman810 How do I get more than four Hard Drives with pATA/IDE
07:27:01 PMGadwil RobbieF, 2d will NOT work with Linux guests!
07:27:29 PMagamotto dman810- master/slave should let you do up to eight
07:27:45 PMdman810 agamotto - How?
07:27:53 PMagamotto Gadwil- i can confirm that at least... it never works on my linux box
07:27:58 PMGadwil No, Windows only support so far.
07:28:32 PMGadwil agamotto, If you check 2D on a Linux guest, it goes orange at the bottom of the window saying it is Windows only for now.
07:28:33 PMGoodGuy http://askubuntu.com/questions/10519/how-can-i-get-compiz-to-work-in-a-virtualbox-vm
07:28:35 PMagamotto dman810- Plug in the drives, BIOS should be able to handle the eight drives, as long as you have four headers on the mobo/raid card
07:29:11 PMdman810 agamotto - I have one IDE connector, So I can do one two IDE drives right?
07:29:23 PMagamotto Two max with one header, yes
07:29:35 PMdman810 Got it! Thanks
07:30:03 PMagamotto There are PCI/PCI-x cards that will expand on your IDE headers
07:30:14 PMdman810 I also have two sATA connectors, that means only two sATA drives!
07:30:31 PM_Jot_ some sata connectors can be split and support more than one drive
07:30:47 PMmathman47 How many monitors can I run with 2 - 5770 cards installed?
07:30:51 PMdman810 _Jot_ how do you know if it can>
07:30:52 PMagamotto dman810- There are SATA/PATA header adapters, but I would ask around on those
07:31:11 PM_Jot_ dman810, I have no idea, I dont have enough drives to ever need it
07:31:14 PMGadwil Mathman47, How many connectors do you have?
07:31:19 PMmathman47 4
07:31:48 PMGadwil So you can run 4 monitors if they allow using all ports, or 2 if you can only use one card for monitor connections.
07:31:53 PMagamotto That should give you 4 monitors at something like 1280x1024
07:32:04 PMGadwil I am usure of exactly how ATI/AMD handles their Crossfire.
07:32:16 PMagamotto Gadwil- Same here
07:32:32 PMmathman47 Guess Ill find out in a couple of days.
07:32:35 PMGadwil I think only 2, since the second card is used mainly for extra processing.
07:32:43 PMGoodGuy stream is dropping out here
07:32:47 PMGadwil You can always search Bing/Google for help, they will know.
07:32:54 PMagamotto Gadwil- That would suck
07:33:30 PMGadwil agamotto, That is the point behind Crossfire and SLI, to use extra GPUs simply for more processing power.
07:33:41 PMdman810 When it comes to video cards what does SLI mean?
07:33:47 PMmathman47 I built this PC in June and now that prices have dropped Im filling it up/out.
07:34:08 PMagamotto dman810- linking the cards to make a super-card
07:34:24 PMdman810 I will have to check that out!
07:34:27 PMagamotto neural interfaces
07:34:28 PMGadwil So, the more monitors you can use, the more that that advantage is reduced since you are also working on more monitors. Basically I see it as the extra card(s) helping the first, and the first is responisble for some processing and then sending video.
07:35:04 PMagamotto I once had a 3 monitor setup at work with a Matrox card some years ago
07:35:29 PMdman810 I am running three with NVIDIA cards
07:35:34 PMGadwil Windows 7 SP1 is released TODAY!
07:35:43 PMdman810 Three Monitors
07:35:46 PMBugs http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12490048
07:36:04 PM_Jot_ gadwil, has been released a while already, and its an older version really that has been build last year
07:36:06 PMmathman47 Gadgil: but it isnt a biggie unless you havent been updating.
07:36:13 PMagamotto Gadwil- Good, I hope it clears up some of the wireless troubles people have been having with 7.
07:36:22 PMGadwil _jot_, it is Officially released today via Win Update.
07:36:31 PMGadwil I know MSDN and OEMs have had it for a while.
07:36:46 PM_Jot_ after it came out last week Ive reinstalled from a cd with it integrated from technet, and it is a bit faster for me than the seperate ones
07:36:49 PMdman810 Wait for the Blue Screen of Death!
07:36:54 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: Its called Bliss!
07:36:56 PMGadwil Let me hope SP1 doesnt break anything... downloading and installing now.
07:37:12 PM_Jot_ Gadwil, after it installed correctly, dont forget to remove the excess files etc
07:37:16 PMmathman47 Yeah Windows!
07:37:31 PMGoodGuy The aliens on "V" have a queen who supplies Bliss
07:37:33 PMGadwil Jot, I let the installer worry about removing system files. I dont do it myself.
07:37:34 PMagamotto GoodGuy- Dude, you need to quit watching V... you are going lizard!
07:37:40 PMajamison5579 why use XP of all things
07:37:47 PMajamison5579 why not win 7
07:37:48 PMGadwil EricKidd... Getting embarrased?
07:38:09 PMGoodGuy How can you not love rat eating lizards that look like humans
07:38:14 PMGadwil ajamsion, Compatability, his software was built for it, and it uses less resources than 7.
07:38:15 PMagamotto Clonezilla is very nice in its latest versions
07:38:18 PMausrob no sympathy for his distructive nature
07:38:33 PMausrob Clonezilla a tool for all the techies
07:38:43 PMGadgetWisdomGuru a ghost? where?
07:38:52 PMmathman47 V=great looking actresses.
07:38:53 PMGoodGuy Maybe he owns a copy of WinXP and doesnt have Win 7
07:38:56 PMagamotto XP is useful if all you do is games
07:39:20 PMGoodGuy I could pass on Anna, but Lisa is another story
07:39:22 PMBugs hmm most cloning software does not handle bad sectors very well
07:39:31 PMGadwil agamotto, I use 7 for gaming.. 64 bit too.
07:39:38 PMGregInTexas I have win7 on a CD ... I switched to ubuntu before I installed it
07:39:44 PMagamotto Bugs- Acronis does a good job with them
07:40:00 PMBugs ok
07:40:08 PMGoodGuy Maybe watching her devour a rat a couple episodes ago made Anna look alot less attractive
07:40:22 PM_Jot_ gadwil, if sp1 runs fine, the command you want is: DISM /online /cleanup-Image /spsuperseded
07:40:32 PMagamotto I have Vista 64 Ultimate, but only because I found it at a Goodwill dirt cheap
07:40:41 PMGregInTexas lol
07:41:07 PMGadwil Jot, I think i will leave it just in case. Also, I may just do a clean install if anything goes wrong or I see major slow-downs.
07:41:13 PMGregInTexas we use zenworks to clone stuff
07:41:22 PMausrob I got a free copy of Win 7 Ultimate only run it in Virtualbox
07:41:24 PMGadwil Zenworks does not like Ext4.
07:41:24 PMagamotto $28 vs $300+ was a compelling argument
07:41:29 PMausrob for my knowledge
07:41:42 PMGregInTexas thats ok ... I dont like zenworks
07:41:47 PMGregInTexas were even
07:42:38 PMGadwil My school uses it, My teacher and I were trying to get Ubuntu partitons easily on each computer as a second system for doing Labs in Cisco class, and zenworks kept spitting out an error, turns out, it was the EXT4 fs. Ext 3 and lower are fine.
07:42:46 PMagamotto Instead of free, perhaps the term alterable should be used?
07:43:38 PMGregInTexas zenworks does a lot of stuff, but it can give you fits too
07:43:53 PMGadwil They integrated DBAN with it... a Nice touch I believe.
07:44:03 PM_Jot_ since its vitally important to remember Hello There Ive commited those two words to memory as a backup
07:44:50 PMGadwil a guy at my school also made a script for it, so if you type " magic {server} {*.img} " it will auto copy the img and then run scripts to auto-setup XP systems with their software... But win 7 is taking a bit more work to get done.
07:45:19 PM_Jot_ it should be much easier since windows 7 has software for all that build in, it is how it is deployed in the first place
07:46:03 PMagamotto I would imagine that most people are just tired of the various flavors of Windows
07:46:06 PMGadwil Jot, UAC is one of the issues. and Novell software is more heavily integrated.
07:47:04 PM_Jot_ sure, but the automated installation stuff is a lot easier, since you dont have to do anything for that anymore
07:47:29 PMBugs EricKidd NewSID was actually never required. Mark Russinovich admitted this in his blog recently after discussing it with lots of microsoft people
07:47:30 PMGadwil RobbieF, EricKidd, It may be nice to point out that it will also work to another HDD, it does not HAVE to be over the network.
07:47:31 PMagamotto Not when UAC interrupts the script on each machine
07:48:09 PMGadwil Ok, So he did hit my point.
07:48:24 PMdman810 Igood job Gadwil
07:48:27 PM_Jot_ stream keeps stopping for me
07:48:33 PMdman810 Good Job I mean!
07:48:38 PMGregInTexas anybody know?: Droid X vs. Droid Incredible ... ?
07:48:43 PMagamotto Source and Target
07:48:57 PMGadwil I would go with Droid X myself.
07:49:02 PMagamotto GregInTexas- out of my ken
07:49:23 PMGadwil Jot, It would be his CPU being bottlenecked.
07:49:34 PMagamotto SAMBA si, SAMBA SAMBA si!
07:49:51 PMGregInTexas Wirefly has the DroidX fro $20, the Incredible for free
07:49:53 PM_Jot_ yeah, just wanted to make notice of it
07:50:37 PMagamotto 2GB of ram or more can do wonders in speeding up the creation of .img files
07:51:35 PMGregInTexas just looking at what he is doing, it looks like zenworks cloned clonezilla ...
07:51:47 PMGadwil GregInTexas, and then broke it.
07:51:56 PMGregInTexas exactly!
07:52:22 PMGregInTexas they probably cant upgrade as fast as the open source community
07:52:35 PMGregInTexas so no ext4 support
07:53:28 PMGadwil My video froze.
07:53:40 PMGadwil and is now moving a little
07:53:41 PM_Jot_ if it freezes completely, refresh
07:53:43 PMGadwil and is back
07:53:58 PM_Jot_ it did for me too for a while, but now its normal again
07:54:06 PMGregInTexas mine hiccupped during Beccas news ...
07:54:27 PMGadwil Mine has been glitchy all night
07:54:32 PMGadwil well, for the hour.
07:54:36 PM_Jot_ I tried entering the chatroom, but people kept the doors closed on me
07:54:59 PMDrawBot_4594 I have grabbed a list of all active users in the chat room.
07:55:00 PMDrawBot_4594 Good luck with the contest!
07:55:00 PMDrawBot_4594 Kind regards,
07:55:00 PMGadwil Hi Drawbot!
07:55:04 PMGadwil Just missed him.
07:55:05 PM_Jot_ hey Drawbot
07:55:19 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I wont win
07:55:19 PMDrawBot_3804 I have grabbed a list of all active users in the chat room.
07:55:19 PMDrawBot_3804 Good luck with the contest!
07:55:19 PMDrawBot_3804 Kind regards,
07:55:23 PMGadgetWisdomGuru I never win things
07:55:29 PM_Jot_ DrawBot! Dont go
07:55:33 PM_Jot_ darn, he left again
07:55:33 PMausrob DrawBot owes us
07:55:50 PMDrawBot_9109 I have grabbed a list of all active users in the chat room.
07:55:50 PMDrawBot_9109 Good luck with the contest!
07:55:50 PMDrawBot_9109 Kind regards,
07:55:50 PMDrawBot_9109 The Category5.TV DrawBot
07:55:57 PM_Jot_ Drawbot, whats up?
07:56:11 PMfeha Hi All :-)
07:56:19 PMGadwil RobbieF, No odd names from the last few times.
07:56:28 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, maybe its Cory
07:56:36 PMGregInTexas I wanna win a pogoplug!
07:56:40 PMGWG Could it be me?
07:56:47 PMGWG I shortened mine
07:56:54 PMBugs _Jot_is it you
07:56:56 PMGadwil So Wirecast AND 2 pogoplugs being given away next week?
07:57:04 PM_Jot_ no, I won before, so it isnt the _
07:57:17 PM_Jot_ thats why I think its cory because he has a backwards apostroph
07:57:36 PMBugs oh yes i thought it was dirt on my screen lol
07:57:46 PMGoodGuy Change nicknames Cory`
07:58:07 PMGadwil RobbieF, How is the weather?
07:58:21 PMGadwil Very cold today in VA, when it was 70 F yesterday!
07:58:43 PMGregInTexas theres Christy!
07:58:51 PMdman810 COld in MI today also!
07:58:54 PM_Jot_ Christy, its cold here in the netherlands, -2.5, how is it there?
07:59:12 PMgpop7 hello christy
07:59:17 PMagamotto We went from 62F to 38F.... wha!!!!
07:59:23 PMausrob didnt we expect that
07:59:26 PMGregInTexas Upper 60s here in Texas
07:59:31 PMas759 7C In Manchester England
07:59:32 PMRiverRat it is 80 in Florida
07:59:32 PMdman810 _Jot- Exactly -2.5?
07:59:42 PMGWG Fun
07:59:43 PMGadwil Hello Christy!
07:59:45 PM_Jot_ dman810, the news office says it is
07:59:52 PMdman810 I see
08:00:00 PMGoodGuy I installed Pinguy OS and it includes Conky.... with a couple changes, it displays the weather
08:00:16 PMgpop7 chicago 25
08:00:18 PMGuest_1654 exit
08:00:23 PMGWG It is 30 degrees in NYC
08:00:24 PMGregInTexas that was funny!
08:00:35 PMEricKidd Christy is out of control!!!
08:00:36 PMGadwil RobbieF, GET THE STICK!
08:00:37 PMagamotto I am just glad that it i now above freezing for a change
08:00:42 PMgpop7 goodnight everyone
08:00:49 PMagamotto We had nearly two months below freezing
08:00:51 PMGadwil Classics

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