Chat Logs for Episode 181 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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Chat Logs:

07:00:01 PM_Jot_ its just the army so I wouldnt worry about it
07:00:02 PMagamotto Dave-M0DCM- Now that IS odd, usually when flash goes nuts, it is consistent
07:00:12 PMGadwil-Office Jot, I am going for the Air Force.
07:00:28 PM_Jot_ Im sure youre smart enough for that
07:00:29 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- you? worried about electronics?
07:00:40 PM_Jot_ just had some lag spikes :)
07:00:52 PMGadwil-Office It was asking about wires, and some other things I didnt know the equaitions for.
07:01:05 PMGoodGuy I tried to join the Air Force during the Vietnam war and they rejected me for a couple medical reasons
07:01:12 PMGregInTexas its a woot off for those that know what that is!
07:01:31 PMDave-M0DCM so Ive got a weird problem then?
07:01:33 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:01:35 PMGadwil-Office Wow, what a u-turn, I thought that was Hillary in the Fedora.
07:01:40 PMGoodGuy I heard they were taking ppl with heart murmers, but I didnt experience that
07:01:46 PM_Jot_ hey Christa, nice to see you
07:01:58 PMGregInTexas I thought it was Hilary also
07:02:07 PMdman810 Hello Christa
07:02:08 PMGregInTexas from the back ...
07:02:11 PM_Jot_ Hillary usually has a different haircut, so I could tell from that
07:02:12 PMGadwil-Office I think we could replace Hillary with her actually... but Hillary might be upset with that... so can we keep them both?
07:02:16 PMGoodGuy I wouldnt kick Christa off my PC lol
07:02:30 PMagamotto Alternating weeks?
07:02:37 PMGoodGuy hi chrisreich
07:02:42 PMchrisreich People of Earth, Greetings.
07:02:51 PMchrisreich Hi GoodGuy
07:02:53 PMDave-M0DCM Hola Hillary
07:02:59 PMdman810 Hillary!!
07:03:00 PMGregInTexas Hi Hillary!
07:03:01 PM_Jot_ Hillary! Where is the sheet?
07:03:24 PMGoodGuy Something Ocelot
07:03:28 PMDave-M0DCM that new name for 11.04 is a weird one
07:03:31 PMagamotto Oneiric?
07:03:45 PMGadwil-Office Dave.. Natty Narwhal?
07:03:51 PMGoodGuy Oneiric Ocelot
07:04:12 PMDave-M0DCM thats the one
07:04:15 PM_Jot_ Hillary, I bet it is the tv-station that Robbie was at yesterday :)
07:04:18 PMGadwil-Office 11.04 is Natty Narwhal, 11.11 is Oneiric Ocelot
07:04:25 PM_Jot_ yesterday, I meant, last week
07:04:27 PMGadwil-Office I think
07:04:29 PMGoodGuy I thought Hillary was a secret member of the Klan, but guess not! :-)
07:04:32 PM_Jot_ or the week before that, or something
07:04:47 PMGoodGuy 11.10 isnt it?
07:04:59 PMagamotto yah
07:05:03 PMGadwil-Office Christa, Are you the one who made the new Category 5 logo?
07:05:24 PMGoodGuy Sheets can also work to become Casper the Ghost during Halloween
07:05:44 PMGadwil-Office Goodguy, yes 11.10 is Oeniric Ocelot.... cant add right now.
07:05:45 PMagamotto Should be possible...
07:05:53 PMGoodGuy They have web sites wirh procedures on doing that
07:06:08 PM_Jot_ it will be interesting to see Hillary say the new name of 11.10
07:06:14 PMNew2Linux_2011 I am pretty new to Pogoplug and wanted to know can you upload remotely from a mobile phone to the Pogoplug?
07:06:17 PM_Jot_ or Eric
07:06:26 PMagamotto Most of the set-top boxen run some flavor of Linux anyway....
07:06:29 PMGregInTexas why are they skipping 11.04?
07:06:35 PM_Jot_ New2Linux, you should be able to, as long as you use the webinterface
07:06:47 PMGoodGuy They have a different type of formatting iirc
07:06:58 PMchrisreich GregInTexas they are not skipping 11.04
07:07:05 PMGadwil-Office New2Linux, You should be able to simlply by accessing it via web browser, it should work just as a normal filesystem.
07:07:17 PMGregInTexas so is 11.04 out?
07:07:28 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: Check the TIVO newsgroups.... Its not as simple as it seems I believe
07:07:29 PMagamotto alpha, yes
07:07:31 PMDave-M0DCM April 29th
07:07:31 PMHillary Jot, I have NO CLUE how to say the new versioN! ahhhh!
07:07:35 PMchrisreich Not until late April, the 28th iirc
07:07:42 PMGadwil-Office 11.04 is released in April for Final version, Alpha for right now, beta soon.
07:07:48 PMGregInTexas oh ok ... thanks
07:08:04 PMagamotto chrisreich- Yep, right after my birthday
07:08:04 PMNew2Linux_2011 ok thanks Jot and Gadwil-Office
07:08:07 PMGregInTexas Im still on Lucid ... which I love
07:08:09 PM_Jot_ Hillary, I think it will be very funny to see, but to be honest, I have no idea either
07:08:28 PMDave-M0DCM its best to stick with the LTS versions
07:08:32 PMDave-M0DCM tried and tested
07:08:37 PMagamotto hear hear
07:08:39 PMchrisreich Who is the young lady next to Robbie?
07:08:45 PMGregInTexas thats kinda what I thought ... LTS was safer
07:08:46 PMGoodGuy http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/index9.html
07:08:50 PMGadwil-Office Could a dependency conflict be at fault? Perhaps something to do with java?
07:08:56 PMagamotto Graphic designer who is going to do some bits later
07:09:01 PMGoodGuy http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/
07:09:06 PMchrisreich I agree w/ Dave-M0DCM
07:09:20 PMGadwil-Office Robbie, Since 4.0 Virtualbox is always Open Source unless you specifically download the PUEL extension.
07:09:20 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- That would not surprise me
07:09:36 PM_Jot_ chrisreich, her name is Christa
07:09:52 PMGoodGuy Last link is updated vs the first
07:10:00 PMagamotto RobbieF- Java glitch most likely
07:10:10 PMGadwil-Office I am thinking it is a Java issue, not sure though. But I am unsure if VB uses Java that much.
07:10:13 PMchrisreich Thanks _Jot_, I must have missed the announcement because I came in a few moments late.
07:10:27 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: TIVO Update Info for RobbieF- http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/
07:10:58 PMScorpio55 Try LibreOffice Ubuntu is switching to it in thext release
07:11:10 PMScorpio55 next
07:11:31 PMGadwil-Office I like the icon set of LibreOffice.
07:11:36 PMHillary Command +
07:11:37 PM_Jot_ chrisreich, In the announcement, Robbie said: Learn to build a professional web site with special guest, Christa Wells. (so now you know as much as us)
07:11:49 PM_Jot_ sure RobbieF, I can read that
07:11:49 PMHillary The you can READ! bc im struggling with the small fonts! LOL
07:11:49 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, I am pointing to Java... Completely unsure though
07:11:55 PMchrisreich Does anyone know of free software that outputs in epub format?
07:11:57 PMDave-M0DCM Ive installed Libre Office on all 30 machines Ive helped come over from the darkside
07:12:01 PMGoodGuy Younger Eyes!
07:12:11 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, its a mac, dont torture the girl
07:12:18 PMHillary commandd
07:12:18 PMGoodGuy Calibre chrisreich
07:12:22 PMagamotto chrisreich- FBreader, and Calibre, if memory serve
07:12:24 PMGadwil-Office It is a " geasture "
07:12:24 PMqwebirc422203 hi guys
07:12:45 PMchrisreich Calibre will *convert* to epub. I wish to create new epub.
07:12:54 PMqwebirc422203 just to say thanks to robbie, that i have got the pogoplug prize
07:13:05 PMGregInTexas true ... Ipod touch is a little cool ... android is cooler ...
07:13:09 PMagamotto chrisreich- ahh, sorry, missed that part
07:13:10 PMDave-M0DCM pitty you cant rock box the ipod lol
07:13:10 PM_Jot_ great qweb
07:13:21 PMGoodGuy Can you create it in PDF and convert to Epub chrisreich?
07:13:29 PMchrisreich So Christa must be a web designer by profession - cool.
07:13:42 PMagamotto Is there an extra mic on somewhere?
07:13:45 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, not another child *sigh*
07:13:46 PMDougEFresh hi robbie, i had my motherboard fail on me, will i be able to used my linux 10.04 with a new different motherboard, or will i losses everything an have too reinstall os?
07:14:03 PMGoodGuy Best Buys is selling PogoPlugs in black for $49 USA
07:14:07 PMGadwil-Office Robbie, Is the info.. " A free pogoplug for ALL Cat5TV viewers" ?
07:14:13 PMqwebirc648398 hi
07:14:18 PMchrisreich GoodGuy thats what I have to do now. Or I use Apples Pages.
07:14:24 PMGregInTexas lol ... free free!
07:14:26 PM_Jot_ DoughEFresh, linux is a lot smarter about such things than Windows, so there is a good chance it will work fine
07:14:29 PMGadwil-Office I really hope that is the news.
07:14:31 PMqwebirc648398 what should i do if it says that nick name is already in use
07:14:41 PMagamotto DougEFresh- It usually figures out what is going on and self-adjusts, unless you are going from intel to AMD or some great change like that
07:14:53 PMGadwil-Office I am getting some audio crossing... anyone else?
07:14:54 PM_Jot_ qwebirc, type /nick where is a new name youd like to use
07:14:56 PMchrisreich agamotto, I didnt make it clear what I was looking for, an attempt to not prejudice the responses.
07:15:08 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- Same here
07:15:25 PMGoodGuy http://www.jedisaber.com/eBooks/tutorial.asp
07:15:28 PMGregInTexas my audio is perfect
07:15:29 PMGadwil-Office Perhaps a mic is crossing that shouldnt.
07:15:36 PMinvincible-mutan hi
07:15:50 PM_Jot_ yes, like that :)
07:15:52 PMkieserj audio sounds like clothing rustle
07:15:56 PMGadwil-Office GIMP!
07:15:57 PM_Jot_ it is possible that name is taken too, if so, just pick another
07:16:02 PMGregInTexas GIMP!
07:16:06 PMinvincible-mutan i am back
07:16:11 PMinvincible-mutan thanks for the pogoplug
07:16:13 PMinvincible-mutan i have got it
07:16:16 PMDave-M0DCM KompoZer!!
07:16:25 PMinvincible-mutan what a quick delivery from robbie
07:16:37 PMagamotto I think the mic on the desk/table is picking stuff up...
07:16:40 PMGoodGuy http://www.juliansmart.com/ecub
07:16:44 PMchrisreich gotta use the right tool for the job at hand, whether its free or not, as long as it works and doesnt BSOD.
07:16:46 PMkieserj definitely an open mic
07:16:49 PMGoodGuy Take a look at that chrisreich
07:17:03 PMchrisreich okay GoodGuy
07:17:19 PMGoodGuy Looks free, so thats a plus
07:17:23 PMchrisreich but now I want to listen to Christa
07:17:24 PM_Jot_ Christa, do you do industrial design too?
07:17:29 PMDave-M0DCM it sounds like echo from Skype
07:17:32 PMinvincible-mutan hey, you should have a hat too
07:17:37 PMGregInTexas I know this is weird, but GIMP is more intuitive to me than photoshop ... but I use both
07:17:39 PMDosbomber Erics gotten a heckuva lot better looking...
07:17:40 PMGadwil-Office She can be you, subtract the proprietary software.
07:18:02 PMGregInTexas oooo ... a tablet
07:18:10 PMGregInTexas wish I had a tablet
07:18:20 PMchrisreich I use the wireless version of her tablet, somewhat smaller.
07:18:36 PMDosbomber Im happy with my EeePC.. an actual keyboard, portable as a tablet
07:18:42 PMGregInTexas bluetooth, chrisreich?
07:19:05 PMGoodGuy I think I bought a cheapo tablet at a garage sale a couple years ago, but never touched it
07:19:12 PMchrisreich yes, bluetooth. I bought it to help w/ my severe carpal tunnel syndrome
07:19:22 PMGoodGuy Didnt look all that high quality
07:19:25 PMagamotto I once had a Koala Pad....
07:19:31 PMGregInTexas would reaaly help if you can draw freehand
07:19:47 PMGadwil-Office My Government teacher does that with his little pen tablet.... I will see if he will let me try.
07:19:49 PMDosbomber Wow, a KoalaPad.. man, that brings back memories
07:20:02 PMchrisreich you can trace drawings, GregInTexas
07:20:16 PMGregInTexas that would be awesome ...
07:20:18 PMDougEFresh thank Jot, my board did not post. i was fraid that i would loss everything
07:20:22 PMDave-M0DCM theres a lot of talk about PhotoShop
07:20:42 PMDave-M0DCM as long as she doesnt mention DreamWeaver
07:20:53 PMGoodGuy Out of my neighborhood price wise
07:20:59 PMagamotto Dave-M0DCM- in the Mac world, it is the standard
07:21:10 PM_Jot_ DoughEFresh, if it doesnt, you can still boot up from a cd or dvd, and copy your stuff that way, so if it doesnt boot from the HD, but the HD is okay, no problem
07:21:20 PMGregInTexas I hate dreamweaver ... I use gedit
07:21:28 PMGregInTexas or notepad
07:21:29 PMDave-M0DCM It should be called the Adobe-Mac
07:21:39 PMGadwil-Office I need to go find some printer paper.
07:21:49 PMagamotto I have a fondness for Abiword
07:21:54 PMGuest_9027 who is Robbies guest ?
07:22:03 PMGregInTexas Christa
07:22:13 PMchrisreich has anyone tried wordgrinder?
07:22:15 PMagamotto She is Christa, a gfx designer
07:22:38 PMDave-M0DCM on a mac
07:22:40 PMGuest_9027 Is she a friend or colage student ?
07:22:56 PMagamotto no idea
07:23:02 PMGregInTexas what is wordgrinder?
07:23:09 PMDosbomber Must... hold... back.. the.. artistic talent... lol
07:23:30 PMGuest_9027 I am going to buy a new I-Pad friday for my wife.
07:23:39 PM_Jot_ her website by the way is: http://cwellsdesigns.com
07:23:46 PMchrisreich wordgrinder - minimalist word processor. works without a gui. REALLY OLD SCHOOL
07:23:48 PMagamotto Guest_9027- Ewwww
07:23:55 PMGoodGuy I wish I was a wife in that case haha
07:23:58 PMDosbomber QEdit
07:24:10 PMagamotto chrisreich- Something like what Q&A used to be?
07:24:20 PMGoodGuy at least long enough to become proud owner of an iPad 2
07:24:42 PMGregInTexas nice site
07:24:45 PMagamotto GoodGuy- No, I would sell it for something useful... chuckle
07:24:47 PMchrisreich agamotto - I dont know what is Q&A (other than the obvious)
07:25:02 PMDougEFresh Jot how can I save my souce list and replace it if i had to?
07:25:09 PMGuest_9027 I got my Pogoplug that I won this week. I am still getting use to it.
07:25:17 PMagamotto chrisreich- older DOS program that could read/write M$ Office, WordPerfect, etc....
07:25:23 PMGoodGuy Id like an iPad just to play with
07:25:31 PM_Jot_ guest, its pretty easy, so Im sure youll manage
07:25:40 PMDave-M0DCM I like the look of the Samsung tablet
07:26:04 PMagamotto Look, yes... $800 price, ick
07:26:06 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, dont forget to say that Gimp even works on mac
07:26:07 PMchrisreich GIMP will run on the MAC
07:26:22 PMGregInTexas I wanna Moto Xoom
07:26:36 PMDosbomber *cough* Mac... *cough*
07:26:39 PMGuest_9027 I have been watching video with my PS3 from the Pogoplug.
07:26:53 PMDosbomber Mac.. half the computer at twice the price. :D
07:26:55 PMagamotto GregInTexas- save the dosh, and get a Dell flip laptop
07:27:19 PMGoodGuy DLNA media streaming or Netword shares Guest_9027
07:27:22 PMGregInTexas havent looked at a Dell flip ...
07:27:24 PMGoodGuy ?
07:27:27 PMchrisreich When finances allow, I will eschew both the iPad and a new iPod in favor of a MacBook Air.
07:27:28 PMGuest_9027 Mac does not support flash
07:27:32 PM_Jot_ twice the price? More like 10 times the price, when I saw a brochure
07:27:53 PMchrisreich Mac runs flash - make no mistake about that.
07:27:57 PMGregInTexas the full up xoom is like $800 US
07:28:07 PMDave-M0DCM ?1400 for Macbook Pro.... ?200 for a basic Dual Core PC and then Ubuntu or other distro it
07:28:14 PMGuest_9027 no it does not.
07:28:21 PMagamotto GregInTexas- I forget the model name, but I think it is an Inspiron that has a rotating monitor, allowing you to fold the lid over the keyboard and use it as a tablet
07:28:27 PMGuest_9027 they use html5
07:28:40 PMGuest_9027 and use mpeg4
07:28:50 PMagamotto _Jot_- It depends on the country, oddly
07:28:52 PMchrisreich You can pay 200 pounds for a laptop, but then youve got to try to keep it running, and from falling apart.
07:28:58 PMGuest_9027 h.264 also but no flash
07:28:59 PMGregInTexas I have an older gateway that has a fold over lid that I can (sort of) use as a tablet
07:29:09 PMchrisreich Life is too short to fight cheap hardware.
07:29:11 PMGregInTexas but it doesnt end up being the same thing
07:29:14 PMDave-M0DCM shes not won over by FREE
07:29:36 PMmathman47 Do you use a free PC and free camera too, Robbie?
07:29:49 PMDave-M0DCM I do
07:30:02 PMDosbomber Poor Christa.. her software bases are being attacked by multiple fronts
07:30:11 PMGregInTexas I found a netbook with 12 inch screen for $379, no OS (load Ubuntu on it)
07:30:26 PMGregInTexas made by acer
07:30:43 PMchrisreich Guest_9027 I just updated Flash from Adobes site, on my iMac, the day before yesterday.
07:31:01 PMagamotto Macs are great for people who dont want to know anything about how a computer works, and certain niche things....
07:31:21 PMagamotto Acer is usually solid kit
07:31:31 PMDave-M0DCM I got given 2 Acer Aspire 5630s, on the basis that they werent working, Mmmmm installed Ubuntu 10.04 and they work
07:31:34 PMagamotto Dreaming kitty....
07:31:57 PMGregInTexas I know, agamotto ... I wasnt so much looking for a particular brand, but one with no OS on it ... why should I pay for an OS just to erase it
07:32:16 PMagamotto GregInTexas- Yes, the m$ tax is horrible
07:32:24 PMGregInTexas definately
07:32:30 PMchrisreich agamotto if you change your statement by replacing the word "want" with the word "need", Im with you.
07:32:51 PMGoodGuy I thought it was possible to get a MS rebate if you dont want the OS part
07:32:54 PMagamotto chrisreich- agreed
07:33:15 PMGuest_9027 Has anyone checked out the new version of Microsoft Home Server 2011?
07:33:16 PMGregInTexas never heard of that, GoodGuy
07:33:16 PMDave-M0DCM I gotta go through a CT scan tomorrow
07:33:17 PMchrisreich within a month of purchasing my iMac, I was stumping the Apple Geniuses in the Apple store.
07:33:26 PMagamotto GoodGuy- possible, yes, easy, no.
07:33:29 PMchrisreich with my questions
07:34:03 PMGoodGuy true agamotto... no company likes give $$$$ back after its in their pocket
07:34:18 PMGregInTexas lol
07:34:25 PMDave-M0DCM no mention about the Android virus?
07:34:37 PM_Jot_ Hillary, I think you said it wonderfully, so great job
07:34:41 PMGoodGuy Ocelot is a cat
07:34:43 PMGregInTexas you mean android viruses
07:34:46 PMagamotto chrisreich- Walk into big-box electronic/computer store and ask them if the devices work with Linux... i love the looks I get
07:34:59 PMchrisreich I suggested "obstreperous oryx", but got voted down
07:35:02 PMDave-M0DCM sorry, misses the es
07:35:04 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:35:24 PMchrisreich Yeah, thats fun agamotto.
07:35:32 PMagamotto hmmm, so 11.10 will be the dreaming kitty....
07:35:33 PMGoodGuy I thought Ornery Ocelot made more sense
07:35:43 PMGregInTexas I love the droid, but Im starting to wonder what ubuntu would be like on a phone or tablet
07:36:17 PMGoodGuy I thought someone did that the Linux Action Show news
07:36:18 PMDave-M0DCM there is a tablet with Ubuntu on
07:36:27 PMGoodGuy on the
07:36:30 PMchrisreich Dave-M0DCM good luck w/ your scan. I hope they find nothing too troublesome.
07:36:53 PMDave-M0DCM Kin or something or other
07:37:00 PMScorpio55 The Kno tablet runs Ubuntu
07:37:02 PMagamotto Dave-M0DCM- If they hold a moggy over you, fire your doctor!
07:37:08 PMGregInTexas you have to have good solid multi touch before you can urn on a phone/tablet
07:37:11 PMGregInTexas effectively
07:37:24 PMDave-M0DCM hahahahaha I will ;-D
07:37:32 PMGoodGuy Maybe someone had Ubuntu on a Galaxy S
07:37:33 PMGregInTexas I love your self portrait on your site, Christa!
07:37:38 PMagamotto I think I will wait for the color e-ink screens
07:37:52 PM_Jot_ I keep wondering if she ever takes off the hat
07:38:17 PMGoodGuy http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ubuntu-running-on-galaxy-tab/
07:38:18 PMGuest_9027 she is a fox !
07:38:19 PMDave-M0DCM now if it were a Red Hat
07:38:22 PMDave-M0DCM :-)
07:38:24 PMchrisreich Christas hat rocks
07:38:27 PMagamotto Dave-M0DCM- You might want to fire them if a Labrador walks in the room as well!
07:38:43 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:39:00 PMHillary @Robbie, I must go now! But I will talk to you soon! And see you all in the chatroom next week!
07:39:04 PMDave-M0DCM Ive had a couple of CT Scans
07:39:07 PM_Jot_ have a great week Hillary
07:39:08 PMRobbieF thanks hillary!
07:39:13 PMGregInTexas bye Hillary!
07:39:16 PMDave-M0DCM I just fall asleep lol
07:39:26 PMHillary toodles! my pleasure, as always! Later you wild bunch, you!
07:39:36 PMHillary hope that was a leg, agamotto!
07:39:41 PMDave-M0DCM See ya Hillary
07:39:45 PMchrisreich me too Dave-M0DCM. lots of injuries in my time on earth.
07:39:51 PMDave-M0DCM My wife still prints out photos
07:39:56 PMGuest_9027 hi Hill
07:40:04 PMagamotto RobbieF- Nah, 35mm negative slides!
07:40:12 PMDosbomber I have in my hand a printout of an old tin-plate "photograph" from the American Civil War.
07:40:16 PMGuest_9027 Hillary is a fox too
07:40:17 PMDave-M0DCM but she still uses Winblows
07:40:22 PMagamotto Tin-types are fun!
07:40:25 PMGregInTexas thx for the link GoodGuy
07:40:33 PMGoodGuy Sure GregInTexas
07:40:42 PMGregInTexas Robbie has good taste in friends
07:40:56 PMDave-M0DCM Solar Flare activity isnt going to be as bad as they originally thought
07:41:02 PMchrisreich I have a 120 film TLR that Ive used as recently as 3 yrs ago. Great detail.
07:41:14 PMGuest_9027 I second that emotion
07:41:15 PMagamotto We have reproductions of about 40 tin-types in our genealogy database for the family.
07:41:19 PMGoodGuy Have to hope Bekah agrees :-)
07:41:25 PMDave-M0DCM pitty, Ill be able to talk to VK on 1 watt
07:41:30 PMDosbomber Comic Sans everywhere! Woohoo!
07:41:41 PMGregInTexas lol
07:41:48 PMchrisreich Hillary is a Windows user?
07:42:01 PM_Jot_ mostly, but she can use everything by now
07:42:04 PMGuest_9027 thats ok
07:42:06 PMagamotto Zapf Chancery?
07:42:09 PMagamotto heeheheheh
07:42:12 PMGuest_9027 I use windows too
07:42:24 PMDave-M0DCM she still uses Vista
07:42:30 PMDave-M0DCM eeeek
07:42:37 PMGoodGuy I have a lady friend who calls me almost daily.... Mrs GoodGuy doesnt mind, but maybe the 1,000+ mile difference helps
07:42:39 PMGregInTexas I still have an XP machine
07:42:47 PMGuest_9027 needs to move up to 7
07:42:56 PMGoodGuy Same here GregInTexas
07:43:14 PMGoodGuy I still have an unopened Win7 Pro
07:43:18 PMGregInTexas Im moving all my new stuff to ubuntu
07:43:27 PMDave-M0DCM nice one
07:43:27 PMagamotto Guest_9027- Too many people dont want their stuff to change
07:43:29 PMGuest_9027 I play with Ubuntu but have to much windows software to give it up.
07:43:35 PMinvincible-mutan cool
07:43:37 PMGregInTexas I have a Win7 pro cd too ... unopened
07:43:39 PMGoodGuy Bought it during that prerelease 1/2 off sale
07:43:41 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, lorem ipsum, copy paste, etc :P
07:43:46 PMchrisreich I have a lawyer friend who still has one of his clerks running Windows 95. Its not connected to the net.
07:43:56 PMDave-M0DCM I made the switch totally to Ubuntu/Linux 16months ago
07:44:00 PMGregInTexas I thought I couldnt move to ubuntu also, but quickly discovered otherwise
07:44:01 PMGoodGuy Never felt in the mood to install
07:44:13 PMagamotto _Jot_- yes, old reliable
07:44:15 PMDave-M0DCM Netbook, Desktop, Server and Laptop
07:44:20 PMdman810 Thanks Christa
07:44:28 PMGregInTexas my servers are SuSE
07:44:36 PMGregInTexas have been for years
07:44:48 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, 5 seconds, even on a mac?
07:44:51 PMagamotto Win 95???? That should be grounds for workmens comp
07:44:52 PMchrisreich my servers are Debian
07:45:06 PMDave-M0DCM Im over the moon with it, as I use Tonido on it to share stuff with my Dad and friends on it too
07:45:22 PMGoodGuy my servers are female... at the local restaurant if that counts lol
07:45:31 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:45:33 PMGregInTexas the set was gorgeous last week
07:45:36 PMGuest_9027 linux servers to hard for beginners
07:45:56 PMGregInTexas linux servers WAY easier to admin than windows servers
07:46:05 PMGregInTexas plus ... they dont crash
07:46:06 PMDave-M0DCM I use the Desktop edition of Ubuntu 10.04 as my SAMBA/Tonido Server
07:46:18 PMchrisreich agamotto she only creates documents that go right to the printer. Shes been doing it since Win 95 was new. I would never suggest they update as long as that machine doesnt need internet access.
07:46:21 PMDave-M0DCM works great for what I want
07:46:42 PMagamotto chrisreich- In that case, I suppose... but, ick
07:46:46 PMGoodGuy Win95 runs in very little memory
07:47:02 PMGregInTexas I prefer having a gui on a server, even though its not usually userd
07:47:09 PMGoodGuy I had an old pc and tried all sorts of distros... still slow as can be
07:47:13 PMagamotto So does Puppy Linux, but is looks sooooo much better than win95
07:47:21 PMGoodGuy Finally tossed it in the trash
07:47:23 PMDave-M0DCM I agree
07:47:30 PMchrisreich agamotto also she is too old to risk making her change. I dont rock boats.
07:47:36 PMGoodGuy I tried Puppy.... still ran slow
07:47:50 PMGoodGuy Tried TinyCore
07:47:57 PMagamotto chrisreich- Ahh, yes the "dont you dare move/change anything" crowd....
07:48:09 PMagamotto I am content to leave those folks in the past
07:48:09 PMGoodGuy I think it was DSL that ran best and that wasnt saying alot
07:48:13 PMGuest_9027 yes
07:48:13 PMDave-M0DCM NOOOOOOOOOOOO
07:48:17 PMGregInTexas lol
07:48:18 PMGoodGuy I like it ok
07:48:18 PMDave-M0DCM WINDOWS SUCJS
07:48:22 PMinvincible-mutan hi
07:48:23 PMDave-M0DCM SUCKS EVEN
07:48:25 PMchrisreich Hey, her productivity is no issue to her employer - why change?
07:48:25 PMDave-M0DCM :D
07:48:26 PMagamotto For games, sure....
07:48:31 PMmathman47 I love WINDOWS 7 PRO
07:48:32 PMinvincible-mutan just to say thanks for the pogoplug
07:48:32 PMGuest_9027 I am on windows now
07:48:36 PMDave-M0DCM hahahahaha
07:48:44 PMDave-M0DCM I have fat fingers
07:48:51 PM_Jot_ nothing wrong with windows, even you look out of them sometimes, Dave!
07:48:56 PMinvincible-mutan it took me only 10 minutes to setup
07:48:59 PMGoodGuy I triple boot.... Windows XP Pro - Ubuntu 10.10 and Pinguy OS (Ubuntu souped up)
07:49:00 PMu-al Is Wirecast for Windows and Mac?
07:49:04 PMDave-M0DCM thats true
07:49:07 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:49:09 PMGregInTexas my wife still has win7 on her new lappy
07:49:13 PMchrisreich to the extent Windows works, its okay if you have the money to burn.
07:49:20 PMagamotto Win 7 is just about everything they promised about Vista
07:49:24 PMGregInTexas but we are getting frustrated with it
07:49:24 PMDosbomber Are we not live people?
07:49:27 PMDave-M0DCM my wife still uses Windows Vista
07:49:36 PM_Jot_ hey! we are definatly live people, and alive too
07:49:38 PMinvincible-mutan win 7 is slow
07:49:40 PMagamotto Dosbomber- She cant see us
07:49:42 PMinvincible-mutan for me
07:49:46 PMinvincible-mutan it is slow
07:49:51 PMchrisreich Thanks RobbieF, thats nice of you.
07:49:52 PMGregInTexas yea, we ARE live!
07:49:56 PMGoodGuy I feel like Jerry Springer.. Go to the "pole" Go to the Pole"
07:50:03 PMdman810 ROBBIEF I am using unmenu with my unraid, and my openDNS says it cant find the package update page! what am I doing wrong?
07:50:06 PMagamotto pole?
07:50:06 PM_Jot_ Christa, does the hat ever come off? and do you do industrial design too?
07:50:08 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, I think Drawbot is everyones favorite bot.
07:50:12 PMGuest_9027 Do not let Robbie fool you. He uses windows for some programs.
07:50:21 PMDosbomber You cant see us, but were all seeing you... (creeped out yet?)
07:50:24 PMGoodGuy My IQ dropped several levels just thinking about Jerry Springer
07:50:28 PMchrisreich BTW RobbieF, thank you for bringing us pretty Canadians once again.
07:50:33 PMGadwil-Office Questions also in the Forums.
07:50:34 PMmathman47 Win 7 is not slow on an i7-930 with 12 GB ram and a ATI 5770 graphics card.
07:50:38 PMagamotto Guest_9027- Yes, but he uses open whenever possible
07:50:40 PMDave-M0DCM I use WINE for a couple of Windows apps along with CrossOver
07:50:44 PMrajiihammr Havent used windows since 2004, Fedora 14 right now.
07:50:49 PMChrista it does, its the look of the day :)
07:50:53 PMDave-M0DCM but thats as far as I go
07:50:59 PMChrista absolutely, all kinds of design based on graphics
07:51:03 PMGuest_9027 what is the best way to put video on the pogoplug ?
07:51:17 PMGoodGuy USB flash drive?
07:51:17 PMchrisreich QUESTION: Once Christa creates something in Photoshop, what does she do with the output file?
07:51:42 PMDave-M0DCM hopefully doesnt save it as JPEG
07:51:43 PMDave-M0DCM lol
07:51:54 PMagamotto ,pmg?
07:51:57 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: Still wish The Meat was alive and well
07:51:58 PM_Jot_ Guest, you can upload it using the webinterface, or download a client-program on the computer which then sees it as a normal drive
07:51:59 PMagamotto ,png, even
07:52:11 PMDosbomber Id save it as a .PSD, I guess
07:52:23 PMagamotto ahhhh
07:52:25 PMDave-M0DCM GIMP reads PSD!!
07:52:26 PMGregInTexas you always want the .psd
07:52:28 PMDave-M0DCM WOOOOO HOOO
07:52:30 PMDosbomber PSD keeps the layers... yeah, what hes saying
07:52:38 PMagamotto Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about the layers....
07:52:43 PMDave-M0DCM she was thinking dirty
07:52:49 PMGregInTexas doesnt GIMP run on mac?
07:52:50 PMGoodGuy Younger brother of WIMP
07:52:54 PM_Jot_ Christa, and GNU stands for GNUs not Unix
07:52:57 PMchrisreich what application takes over on the way to the image being on a website?
07:53:03 PMDave-M0DCM Yup, GIMP is Cross Platform
07:53:16 PMchrisreich Yes, GIMP runs on Mac. It runs on mine.
07:53:20 PMagamotto chrisreich- you mean the page layout program?
07:53:26 PMinvincible-mutan should explain between vector based and raster based graphics
07:53:27 PMGuest_9027 What format works best for the pogoplug to streem.
07:53:31 PMGregInTexas cool
07:53:34 PMchrisreich I dont know agamotto
07:53:59 PMGoodGuy I think that depends of what device you are streaming to Guest_9027
07:54:10 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, When voting for a wirecast entry, Do we have to include a " website " with our comment?
07:54:15 PMchrisreich I think pogoplug is just a file server. It doesnt stream anything.
07:54:15 PMGuest_9027 to a PC
07:54:16 PMGoodGuy You want to avoid transcoding if possible
07:54:27 PMGoodGuy It can stream chrisreich
07:54:31 PMagamotto The pogoplug itself wouldnt care about the format, it would see it only as a file
07:54:45 PMGadwil-Office Just the entry field for vote, but I only see that other box, so was unsure.
07:54:49 PMGoodGuy Has a dumbed down DLNA media streamer iirc
07:54:52 PMchrisreich GoodGuy then I learned something tonight; thanks.
07:54:53 PMinvincible-mutan what is pogoplug transcoding?
07:54:58 PMGuest_9027 the transcoder that pogoplug uses does not work on a vob file.
07:55:04 PMinvincible-mutan does it erase the original movies
07:55:08 PMGoodGuy I fired it up and tried sending it to XBMC
07:55:09 PMGregInTexas How did Christa do her self portrait on her site?
07:55:17 PMGoodGuy Maybe a WD Live TV
07:55:47 PM_Jot_ pogoplug does stream, it only supports h.264, mp4 and avi with motion jpeg for streaming though
07:56:06 PMGoodGuy Transcoding is changing the format of a video to something the destination device can process
07:56:20 PMinvincible-mutan will it delete the original movies
07:56:24 PMagamotto _Jot_- i stand corrected then
07:56:28 PMGregInTexas ah
07:56:37 PMGregInTexas might want to try inkscape ...
07:56:44 PM_Jot_ transcoding is on the fly, so it wont delete anything
07:56:50 PMGoodGuy Good example,... I tried sending YouTube Flash to a WD Live TV app and it didnt work because they dont do Flash
07:56:50 PMagamotto invincible-mutan- it houldnt
07:56:53 PMGregInTexas cool drawing ... did you draw it?
07:57:04 PMGadwil-Office Weve already had the genetics conversation.
07:57:06 PMinvincible-mutan robbie needs a hat too
07:57:15 PMGoodGuy They do have their own WD Live TV app to do YouTube
07:57:19 PMGregInTexas nice
07:57:22 PMinvincible-mutan thanks
07:57:30 PMGadwil-Office I wonder when Robbies children will lose their hair...
07:57:31 PMinvincible-mutan again
07:57:41 PMinvincible-mutan thanks to pogoplug
07:57:48 PM_Jot_ if Robbie wore a hat then his hair would probably break down from the pressure of the hat. Oh wait, there is no hair
07:58:02 PMChrista i did draw it, yes
07:58:03 PMGoodGuy RobbieF-EricKidd: Any status on The Meat?
07:58:09 PMagamotto mean mean people.... grin
07:58:37 PMGregInTexas bookmarking your site Christa!
07:58:39 PMagamotto yay!!!!! Another non-twit!
07:58:39 PMGadwil-Office GoodGuy, The meat is on hiatus until someone who A) Has the time, B) has the education, will donate the work to do it.
07:58:40 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, she also has a website, so you might want to make a link
07:58:42 PMDave-M0DCM right guys, I better go off to the land of nod, Ive got hospital tomorrow
07:58:45 PMinvincible-mutan anyone here free to create an android app for cat5.tv
07:58:46 PMGadwil-Office Oh, and C) the software
07:58:54 PMGoodGuy Thanks Gadwil-Office
07:58:57 PMGregInTexas good luck Dave
07:58:57 PMDave-M0DCM I shall be back for next weeks show
07:58:59 PMmathman47 Thanks, great show.
07:59:07 PMinvincible-mutan great show
07:59:14 PMDave-M0DCM cheers Greg
07:59:16 PMGoodGuy Be really nice for the Clonezilla episodes
07:59:20 PMGadwil-Office GoodGuy, I tried to get it going again, but was unable to find a Linux video cutter that was able to work with the Masters of the time.
07:59:30 PMDave-M0DCM speak laters....
07:59:38 PMinvincible-mutan hi robbie, my pogoplug is up and running
07:59:47 PMGoodGuy Trying to get a friend to listen when she hears Linux is hard enough
07:59:57 PMagamotto hheehehe
08:00:11 PMchrisreich almost forgot to mention - I became an uncle for the third time about 27 hours ago. Gaige Reich is the 2nd male of his generation, separated by 24 years from his male cousin, my son.

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Christa
Dave-M0DCM
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GoodGuy
GregInTexas
Guest_9027
Hillary
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RobbieF
Scorpio55
_Jot_
agamotto
chrisreich
dman810
invincible-mutan
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mathman47
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rajiihammr
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