| 06:59:06 PM | euqrop | on topic ... did anyone tried IE9?
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| 06:59:19 PM | Gadwil | I have been using IE9, need to reboot to use the final version now.
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| 06:59:59 PM | euqrop | I love ff but i got to say IE looks good for now
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| 07:00:14 PM | _Jot_ | I generally use firefox so Ill download IE when its part of the regular updates
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| 07:00:23 PM | Gadwil | IE9 has FAR better compatability, and is super fast, but FF4 has my heart now.
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| 07:00:32 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, IS that a Galaxy Player?!
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| 07:00:36 PM | agamotto | howdy al
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| 07:00:41 PM | Gadwil | Hey agamotto.
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| 07:00:46 PM | euqrop | hey
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| 07:00:58 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, stop playing with your thingy and run the show!
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| 07:01:04 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, ooks like Robbie is playing with something
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| 07:01:19 PM | euqrop | robbief just showing off
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| 07:01:41 PM | Gadwil | I do use IE9 extensivly for Netflix though... I love it for that.
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| 07:01:48 PM | Gadwil | Have a quicklink right on my taskbar for it.
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| 07:01:58 PM | ajamison5579 | firefox works with netflix now gadwil
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| 07:02:14 PM | agamotto | Makes sense, if you get a lot of use out of it
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| 07:02:16 PM | _Jot_ | hi Robbie and Christa
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| 07:02:28 PM | euqrop | robbie you are a bit green :)
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| 07:02:48 PM | Gadwil | ajamison5579, But when in A) Windows, I am on FF4 Beta and am bug testing, so crashes often, and B) when in Linux, Netflix no worky at all unless in Boxee. :(
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| 07:02:54 PM | Gatorman | Wheres the hat Christa?
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| 07:03:17 PM | ajamison5579 | gadwil good points
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| 07:03:18 PM | GregInTexas | my thought exactly ... whereza hat?
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| 07:03:38 PM | _Jot_ | apparently the hat isnt always there, what she said last week at least
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| 07:03:45 PM | euqrop | cool beans
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| 07:03:45 PM | GregInTexas | ah
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| 07:04:11 PM | _Jot_ | hey Johannes in the background
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| 07:04:13 PM | GregInTexas | great connection for Hilliary
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| 07:04:14 PM | Gadwil | ajamison, Not to mention, I had to test the QuickLinks for IE9, so it was a good way to A) Test that, and B) get 3. I love how when using a quick link that the IE9 interface may change to fit better, such a nice feature.
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| 07:04:27 PM | Dosbomber | hah.. I saw those freaky little robots... I want the Einstein one. :D
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| 07:04:40 PM | agamotto | I will consider Netflix streaming when they can be bothered with an Ubuntu/Debian client..... hell of alot more of us than there are Roku users....
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| 07:04:40 PM | Gadwil | Netflix, Bing, and CNN were my 3 quick link options, they worked flawlessly.
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| 07:04:50 PM | Dosbomber | I swear it wasnt me!
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| 07:05:04 PM | calhydro | Robbie has kids he cant be bored
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| 07:05:22 PM | GoodGuy | Try Wine agamotto?
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| 07:05:35 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- No, but I might eventually
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| 07:05:52 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF you are congenitally affable.
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| 07:05:55 PM | Gadwil | Set router to Not reply to pings.
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| 07:06:21 PM | agamotto | Ipod touch.... ie. Fondleslab Jr.
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| 07:07:04 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF-EricKidd: They demo that often on HAK5
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| 07:07:24 PM | calhydro | Yea thats all they talk about on Hak5
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| 07:07:37 PM | Gadwil | Robbie, I think Google can be pretty malicious.
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| 07:07:40 PM | euqrop | hey
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| 07:07:43 PM | GoodGuy | Or make a junk email acct you dont care about
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| 07:07:47 PM | GregInTexas | hi!
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| 07:07:49 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Future show topic - setting up a VPN on your devices....
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| 07:07:51 PM | _Jot_ | hey Robbie and Christa, weve been here for a while
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| 07:07:53 PM | as759 | Hi
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| 07:08:02 PM | Yazid1965 | Were real
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| 07:08:04 PM | ajamison5579 | hi
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| 07:08:07 PM | _Jot_ | say RobbieF, whats up with the green?
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| 07:08:13 PM | Gadwil | So who has used Gnome-Shell recently?
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| 07:08:22 PM | Gadwil | YAY DRAWBOT!
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| 07:08:24 PM | _Jot_ | You see me? stop looking at me! Im not green!
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| 07:08:30 PM | GregInTexas | we like drawbot!!!
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| 07:08:31 PM | dman810 | We lOve Drwabot
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| 07:08:34 PM | mathman47 | Hi Robbie & Christa, Windows forever.
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| 07:08:38 PM | _Jot_ | Drawbot for president!
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| 07:08:40 PM | Gadwil | I just got happy.
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| 07:08:47 PM | dman810 | sorry!
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| 07:08:54 PM | calhydro | I find they run a contest to with clusters of virtual machines for people to break into
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| 07:09:00 PM | dman810 | it was a long day!
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| 07:09:16 PM | ajamison5579 | gadwil I have tried but my ATI card apparently is not Fedora 15 alpha friendly and no proprietary driver out yet
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| 07:09:32 PM | GoodGuy | last episode was a neat case mod in picture frames for one of the cluster pcs
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| 07:09:34 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- ouch
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| 07:09:58 PM | mathman47 | RobbieF: how do you know Christa?
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| 07:10:02 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto yeah it worked in F14 just fine using the OpenSource driver
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| 07:10:21 PM | ajamison5579 | the one currently in F15 alpha is not playing nice
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| 07:10:24 PM | Gadwil | ajamison, I tried the Alpha of 11.04, and it crashed after installing proprietary drivers, so I re-installed Win 7 for the HTPC. Not testing in Arch due to a massive amount of work since we must self-compile the software.
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| 07:10:28 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Another case of needless upgrade, eh?
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| 07:10:48 PM | GoodGuy | Im more interested in how he got Bekah to agree to allow someone as pretty as Christa there lol
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| 07:11:04 PM | euqrop | lol
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| 07:11:06 PM | ajamison5579 | Gadwil I had to install using the alternate Ubuntu install disk
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| 07:11:06 PM | agamotto | After three kids, she should worry?
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| 07:11:09 PM | ajamison5579 | had the same issue
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| 07:11:11 PM | GoodGuy | My wife would say get a male helper haha
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| 07:11:12 PM | chrisreich | My description of Rochester, New York (my adopted home town) where the nearest restaurant is always Italian and the nearest bar wants you to think theyre Irish.
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| 07:11:13 PM | GregInTexas | you can get motorolla canopy on 5ghz
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| 07:11:27 PM | Gadwil | ajamison, I used standard and alternate, alternate first.
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| 07:11:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Ubuntu 11.04 does not use gnome-shell anyway it uses Unity
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| 07:11:40 PM | Gadwil | I will wait for Beta in a few weeks to try again.
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| 07:11:41 PM | GregInTexas | 5ghz lot clearer for shorter distances
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| 07:11:53 PM | Gadwil | I know, I installed it to try Unity and compare to Gnome-Shell.
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| 07:11:58 PM | Davetech | Rochester, awesome! Thats my home town
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| 07:11:58 PM | agamotto | New TV show.... "The Manny!"
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| 07:12:00 PM | Gadwil | I would install Shell packages from repo.
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| 07:12:05 PM | GoodGuy | Doesnt it have a fallback to Gmome if you dont want Unity?
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| 07:12:34 PM | DougEFresh_ | Hi everybody
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| 07:12:38 PM | Gadwil | yes, You can get " Ubuntu Classic " from the GDM, but it also crashed on me in there after proprietary driver install... even Safe Mode failed.
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| 07:12:44 PM | GoodGuy | Last episode this season of "V"
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| 07:12:52 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, they also use 5ghz to combine channels with n, to get 300mbit, so if it says that, it might support it, but you still have to check
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| 07:12:53 PM | Gadwil | No idea what happened there... I call that an Alpha Bug.
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| 07:13:02 PM | agamotto | I finally gave up on wirless in the house, and ran Cat5 cable through the air ducts to the rooms needed.... life is so much easier now
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| 07:13:07 PM | GregInTexas | 5 gighz used for wireless backhauls
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| 07:13:12 PM | Gadwil | Jot, very few routers do that yet though.
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| 07:13:29 PM | GoodGuy | Is that legal under code agamotto?
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| 07:13:44 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- Since the house is pre 78, yes
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| 07:13:51 PM | GoodGuy | I thought it wasnt considered good practice
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| 07:13:55 PM | _Jot_ | Gadwil, yeah, lots of them advertise with 300mbit, but arent actually able to, they just mean n
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| 07:13:59 PM | Gadwil | I am lucky, My dad installed network wiring in the house when he built it.
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| 07:14:12 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- It isnt, but I am not tearing up my good plaster to run cables...
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| 07:14:15 PM | GoodGuy | At least you need special insulation
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| 07:14:36 PM | GregInTexas | its ok with plenum cable ...
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| 07:14:37 PM | Davetech | He, He. messy wires.... :)
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| 07:14:37 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- the jacket on the cable is fire-rated
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| 07:14:41 PM | Gadwil | Jot, they " can " do it, if they have the proper card, I do think the only one that supports it currently was released about 2 months ago, so far not in that many products.
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| 07:14:46 PM | GoodGuy | We have a basement, so I just had to drill a hole thru the wooden floorboards
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| 07:15:01 PM | GoodGuy | Ok agamotto.. no issue then
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| 07:15:18 PM | chrisreich | brb
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| 07:15:20 PM | agamotto | We have too many people in the neighborhood now with wireless.... 16 boxes, and I think every one must be shouting at full power.
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| 07:15:28 PM | GoodGuy | I ran a 50ft Cat6 from the back of the house to the living room
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| 07:15:50 PM | calhydro | Robbie: Do you use jumbo packets on your network, and does it really make difference when copying and/or moving large media files?
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| 07:15:53 PM | GoodGuy | Have switches on each end, so I have enough ports
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| 07:16:05 PM | Gadwil | Sounded simple to me.
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| 07:16:20 PM | GregInTexas | sounded simple to me too ...
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| 07:16:29 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, She uses a Mac, she is a visual person. Us Linux guys understand you, I think.
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| 07:16:41 PM | GoodGuy | I dont YET calhydro.. I wanted to run two network adapters.... one 10/100 to the net and inside a 10/100/1000
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| 07:16:42 PM | kevoh1 | me hug you back
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| 07:17:19 PM | DougEFresh_ | Hi Jot I replace my motherboard, the advice you gave me help. However everythings fine until i upgrade. I have no sound. I try
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| 07:17:24 PM | Gadwil | http://www.category5.tv/wirecast-4-giveaway/
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| 07:17:30 PM | GoodGuy | My mobo has two NIC ports, but one is disabled
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| 07:17:36 PM | Gadwil | ^^ Direct link to the contest.
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| 07:18:01 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- Why would you need two?
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| 07:18:03 PM | GoodGuy | When I learn how to setup two networks, Ill enable it
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| 07:18:13 PM | kevoh1 | Robbie
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| 07:18:14 PM | agamotto | Ahhh
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| 07:18:20 PM | GoodGuy | My wifes PC is old and only uses 10/100
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| 07:18:37 PM | GoodGuy | That slows down a gigabit network
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| 07:18:52 PM | agamotto | Immensely, I would imagine
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| 07:19:01 PM | _Jot_ | DoughEFresh, at least it boots, so you should be able to find drivers etc, I havent really made sound work in a running linux unfortunatly so no idea what to do about it
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| 07:19:06 PM | GoodGuy | I want a 2nd port running gigabit for my PC and the NAS box
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| 07:19:17 PM | Davetech | Here we go again..
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| 07:19:31 PM | mathman47 | PS is well worth it.
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| 07:19:44 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, the big difference between photoshop and gimp is that photoshop is meant for printed media, so it has printing-press-support and such, gimp doesnt, so thats a big difference
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| 07:19:45 PM | Gadwil | I would pay NOT to have flash.
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| 07:19:50 PM | GoodGuy | If you are using it for business, you arent a student :-)
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| 07:20:10 PM | kevoh1 | RobbieF: I get "The Flash plug-in was blocked because it is out of date" in Google chrome? :( how to fix this???
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| 07:20:11 PM | Dosbomber | Robbie rubbing it in...
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| 07:20:13 PM | agamotto | Gadwil- And Steve sure tries, doesnt he?
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| 07:20:30 PM | agamotto | A Student of Business?
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| 07:20:30 PM | GoodGuy | I know MS software is for academic use only
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| 07:20:55 PM | agamotto | kevoh1- Is this the 10 version of Chrome?
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| 07:20:57 PM | ajamison5579 | Everyone is a student of Life
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| 07:20:57 PM | Gadwil | kevoh1, Google Chrome uses their own extension repo. Try searching Google for a fix to that... also go to Settings and About Chrome, and check to see if it is the latest version.
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| 07:21:19 PM | GoodGuy | Our daughter had to buy MS Office 2003 for college classes
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| 07:21:26 PM | kevoh1 | Yes its version 10
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| 07:21:28 PM | Gadwil | kevoh1, Also the flash being used by the site, could be newer than the one installed on your Chrome build.
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| 07:21:47 PM | GoodGuy | Robbie doesnt look at bittorrent lol
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| 07:21:50 PM | Gadwil | GoodGuy, Office 2003 in 2010/2011? Why not get 2007 or 2010?
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| 07:21:55 PM | as759 | RobbieF What vector drawing package would you recommend for Ubuntu users?
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| 07:21:59 PM | agamotto | kevoh1- The corrected Flash bits should be out in the next week or so, latest.
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| 07:22:08 PM | GoodGuy | It was before 2007
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| 07:22:11 PM | Dosbomber | He had the gimp site cached though
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| 07:22:19 PM | GregInTexas | I use both photoshop and gimp
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| 07:22:21 PM | GoodGuy | She graduated awhile back
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| 07:22:23 PM | Gadwil | ah, ok GoodGuy.
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| 07:22:25 PM | agamotto | Gadwil- To avoid the Ribbon...
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| 07:22:35 PM | Gadwil | I love the Ribbon.
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| 07:22:51 PM | Gadwil | I want Ribbon in Libre and/or Open Offices.
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| 07:23:05 PM | GregInTexas | you want ribbon, Gadwil?
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| 07:23:10 PM | agamotto | Gadwil- Unfortunately, it bothers too many users of the previous versions
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| 07:23:20 PM | Gadwil | Yes, I love the Ribbon. Makes it so easy to find what I want to do/use.
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| 07:23:22 PM | euqrop | being a ubuntu fan .... robbief gimp as nothing to do with photoshop!!!
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| 07:23:22 PM | GregInTexas | I dont care for ribbon so much
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| 07:23:24 PM | Gadwil | I found more features just because of it.
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| 07:23:43 PM | Dosbomber | If you go for a job interview and tell them you know how to use Photoshop, you might get the job. If you tell them you know "Gimp", you will get a weird look and be shown the door.
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| 07:24:06 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF is not married to Christa - "the rules" do not apply.
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| 07:24:13 PM | Davetech | More like this: $$$ vs FREE
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| 07:24:15 PM | mathman47 | RobbieF: You get what you pay for!
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| 07:24:17 PM | _Jot_ | oh, the rules always apply
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| 07:24:28 PM | chrisreich | but he wont make any time with her that way...
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| 07:24:32 PM | DougEFresh_ | it work fine until i upgrade. the board i have is a 785gt e63. video card nvidia 9800gtx. the s/dif is mute I trie everything to unmute it. is there away to do it in the terninal
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| 07:24:35 PM | GregInTexas | gimpshop sux
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| 07:24:36 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- Depends on the shop. Around here, Scribus and Inkspace, along with GIMP are somewhat in demand.
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| 07:24:43 PM | GoodGuy | Sounds like my brother Dosbomber... an employer asked if he was looking for a job and he said No, Im looking for a job... Guy showed him the door
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| 07:24:51 PM | GregInTexas | inkscape rocks
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| 07:25:02 PM | GoodGuy | asked work
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| 07:25:20 PM | Gadwil | I use Paint.Net, Inkscape, and GIMP... Now downloading GIMPshop to see how it looks.
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| 07:25:37 PM | calhydro | Christa: When you build a site do you build for one particular browser or multiple browsers? How do you reconcile the small differences in how your pages display?
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| 07:25:41 PM | GregInTexas | gimpshop is old
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| 07:25:45 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, DO you use it on Windows or Mac?
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| 07:25:52 PM | agamotto | calhydro- Good questio
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| 07:26:22 PM | GregInTexas | my answer to cahydro would be to design for html5
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| 07:26:26 PM | NightHawk_UK | Did anyone see in january on blender.org about the site trying to sell blender to unsuspecting people?
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| 07:26:53 PM | Gadwil | Wow, forget that, going from 2.6 to 2.2.8... Long time out.
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| 07:27:03 PM | Gadwil | When will GIMP 2.8 be released?!
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| 07:27:28 PM | GregInTexas | no, gimpshop is too old to use
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| 07:28:03 PM | kevoh1 | Hey yall please recommend a good router and access point for both a residential setup and a small office setup ... Thanksss.
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| 07:28:23 PM | agamotto | kevoh1- Zoom products should work well for you
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| 07:28:27 PM | GregInTexas | I tend to use netgear, kevoh1
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| 07:28:55 PM | euqrop | linksys ?
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| 07:28:59 PM | Davetech | Cisco WRT54G
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| 07:29:12 PM | kevoh1 | do you have a specific model in mind?
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| 07:29:20 PM | GregInTexas | man, do they still sell the WRT54G
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| 07:29:28 PM | agamotto | kevoh1- I dont, but others might
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| 07:29:29 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | got back early tonight
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| 07:29:36 PM | Davetech | ebay
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| 07:29:38 PM | GadgetWisdomGuru | Wanted to say hi quickly.
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| 07:29:50 PM | kevoh1 | hi
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| 07:29:57 PM | GoodGuy | They sell a WRT54GL
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| 07:30:06 PM | agamotto | Bear in mind, that said devices must be available to Kenya, where kevoh1 is living
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| 07:30:17 PM | GoodGuy | Linux model.... others use VxWorks OS
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| 07:30:36 PM | _Jot_ | DoughEFresh, what I can find on the internet, is a lot of mentions of ubuntu related to that motherboard, so if it was mine, Id boot it up with an ubuntu live cd, and see if sound works, first analogue and then s/pdif
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| 07:30:45 PM | GregInTexas | so, in Kenya, probably cant run down to Radio Shack and just pick up a Netgear ...
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| 07:31:03 PM | kevoh1 | you might be surprised by the variety available
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| 07:31:18 PM | agamotto | DougEFresh_- Make sure that the Master, Front, and Master Front switches are turned on
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| 07:31:22 PM | Davetech | NEWS!!
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| 07:31:38 PM | GoodGuy | Isnt Kenya where they take the pirates for trials?
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| 07:31:39 PM | Dosbomber | omg.. halftime already
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| 07:31:42 PM | kevoh1 | after all we are between China and US , Canada on the shipping path
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| 07:32:01 PM | agamotto | kevoh1- I was thinking about the ease of shipping to you....
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| 07:32:03 PM | kevoh1 | no GoodGuy thats Somalia
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| 07:32:17 PM | Davetech | Intro music overlaps Hillarys voice. Could barely hear her when the intro music plays
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| 07:32:38 PM | GoodGuy | Pirates are from there... I thought they took them to Kenya because Somalia has no functioning govt
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| 07:32:39 PM | Dosbomber | News music does need to be toned down a little
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| 07:32:50 PM | DougEFresh_ | Ok Jot, i will try that now.
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| 07:32:53 PM | euqrop | yes thats is bad !!!
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| 07:33:10 PM | Davetech | News looks GREAT though
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| 07:33:15 PM | euqrop | the sound could be just a bit lower
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| 07:33:20 PM | agamotto | Now, that is interesting... PogoSoft for main machines.....
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| 07:34:08 PM | Davetech | Maybe I can use my broken laptop as a POGOplug device!
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| 07:34:08 PM | GoodGuy | Grrrr great.. Zune is dead
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| 07:34:09 PM | agamotto | Shame.... Zunes were nice kit
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| 07:34:27 PM | kevoh1 | I joined the chat late and missed the earlier discussion anyone with the full chat log from the start please send it to me on kmurithi at gmail dot com. thanks...
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| 07:34:33 PM | GregInTexas | gbye zune
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| 07:34:46 PM | _Jot_ | kevoh1, you can get the chatlog etc after the show on the website
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| 07:34:46 PM | ajamison5579 | now time to kill off the xbox
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| 07:34:52 PM | Dosbomber | Hm.. thats not the robot I thought she was referring to in the beginning of the show.
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| 07:35:09 PM | rd_blair1 | uraid as a pogoplug ???
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| 07:35:21 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | The bonus of a Pogo Plug is, it runs on 4 watts.
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| 07:35:30 PM | agamotto | true....
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| 07:35:44 PM | SammySez | whos the chick?
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| 07:35:49 PM | SammySez | Brent Spiner
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| 07:35:51 PM | Davetech | Nope, I dont get it
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| 07:35:52 PM | GregInTexas | Christa
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| 07:35:57 PM | Gadwil | Robbief, Downloading the Pogoplug Software beta now!
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| 07:36:04 PM | Davetech | OHHH Data
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| 07:36:05 PM | _Jot_ | you mean Christa Wells from http://cwellsdesigns.com/ ?
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| 07:36:09 PM | agamotto | She must be assimilated!!!!!!!!
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| 07:36:18 PM | GregInTexas | lol
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| 07:36:21 PM | Davetech | He he
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| 07:36:21 PM | GoodGuy | I just got a phone call from a guy who wanted to do a survey of TV viewers from 18 - 34.. Told him he was many years late in calling
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| 07:36:34 PM | chrisreich | Im thinking that the pogoplug software running on one of those plug servers would be optimum.
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| 07:36:45 PM | chrisreich | Is that software open source?
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| 07:37:06 PM | _Jot_ | chrisreich, the pogoplug is basically one of those plug-servers, and no, it is not open source, although it runs on linux
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| 07:37:11 PM | Gadwil | crisreich, I dont think so do the the EULA you need to accept to get it.
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| 07:37:35 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- Next time answer the phone this way - "Nee how, gwIlow shen zhe bai lo?"
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| 07:37:39 PM | chrisreich | okay thanks gadwill.
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| 07:37:48 PM | _Jot_ | Christa, dont forget if you work for thousands, youre worth thousands, and hes worth.. nothing?
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| 07:37:49 PM | GregInTexas | she probably getting paid thousands too ...
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| 07:37:55 PM | chrisreich | _jot_ so will the pogoplug hardware still be sold?
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| 07:37:59 PM | GoodGuy | lol
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| 07:38:01 PM | dman810 | Gadwil what was the website for pogoplug betea again?
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| 07:38:11 PM | Dosbomber | lol Jot
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| 07:38:17 PM | Gadwil | http://cat5.tv/pogobeta
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| 07:38:22 PM | _Jot_ | chrisreich, yes, and there will also be added paid bonus services or something, the basic serving and media-streaming will be free, from what I understand
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| 07:38:22 PM | Gadwil | ^^ For Pogoplug beta
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| 07:38:34 PM | agamotto | Hexadecimal means you are the wrong species.....
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| 07:38:45 PM | dman810 | Gadwil thanks
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| 07:38:47 PM | Gadwil | Be prepared to get 2 emails to get fully registered and activated.
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| 07:38:54 PM | chrisreich | okay thanks _jot_
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| 07:38:57 PM | SammySez | man this Justin TV popup seems quirky. if you click on it, it goes off to some site, then I have a bunch of commercials. heh.
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| 07:39:22 PM | SammySez | Chrome Sketchpad is kinda cool
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| 07:39:25 PM | Dosbomber | Ustream is a little better (wow, did I just say that?)
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| 07:39:35 PM | GregInTexas | I quit using justin and started using ustream ... worked better for me
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| 07:39:52 PM | SammySez | is there a link to the Ustream feed from category5.tv, or do I need to search for it at the ustream site?
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| 07:39:57 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, What is a " Web Safe " color? Cant the Web display all colors?
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| 07:40:16 PM | agamotto | Good Q
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| 07:40:22 PM | chrisreich | good question Gadwil
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| 07:40:22 PM | ajamison5579 | gadwil it refers to mostly old gen 1 browsers
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| 07:40:26 PM | GregInTexas | used to, the web had only certain colors that you could gaurantee to be displayed
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| 07:40:38 PM | ajamison5579 | now with browsers in the 4th or 5th generations not so much an issue
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| 07:40:38 PM | agamotto | So, it is a fuzzy square...
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| 07:40:54 PM | GregInTexas | it is still considered "good" practice to use web colors
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| 07:40:56 PM | Gadwil | Interesting.
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| 07:41:06 PM | ajamison5579 | it had to do with the limitation of avalible colors when the Internet became popular
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| 07:41:16 PM | GregInTexas | supposedly, if you use web safe colors, the color will look the same from monitor to monitor
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| 07:41:25 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- in theory
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| 07:41:42 PM | GregInTexas | but LCD, and LED monitors were invented and all practice goes out the window
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| 07:41:47 PM | ajamison5579 | that to since colors are rendered differently based on the Tech
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| 07:42:24 PM | kevoh1 | RobbieF: Which file do I need to edit to change the activation link sent by joomla to a new user for them to join my site. I installed a community in a sub-domain and the link sent to the new member is broken... ( repeats the sub-domain folder twice resulting in a 404 error, however if i delete on instance of the folder name the link works ok)...:-/, what to do?
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| 07:42:52 PM | agamotto | ouch
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| 07:43:08 PM | GregInTexas | I use a 2 pixel width myself
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| 07:43:44 PM | GregInTexas | build the gradient as 20 or 30 pixels wide, then narrow to 2 pixels
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| 07:44:09 PM | alket | hi
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| 07:44:22 PM | agamotto | hallo
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| 07:44:23 PM | alket | doesnt show start 1 AM in Europe ?
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| 07:44:35 PM | SammySez | I like the green argyle sweater. hee hee. thats great. Is "Ferguson" an Irish name?
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| 07:44:39 PM | Gadwil | I guess I should send info on the Pogoplug exe and dll to Microsoft for Security Essentials so when it comes out others wont be bothered with the same issues.
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| 07:44:51 PM | _Jot_ | it starts at midnight alket, make sure to check the website for the time when it starts
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| 07:44:58 PM | _Jot_ | I also get it wrong a lot :)
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| 07:45:00 PM | ajamison5579 | gadwil excellent idea
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| 07:45:08 PM | chrisreich | not certain, but I think "Ferguson" would be Scottish.
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| 07:45:29 PM | agamotto | alket: not sure about Canada, but here in the US, we just sprang forward and hour
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| 07:45:55 PM | GregInTexas | they mustve "sprung" too, cuz I was on time ...
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| 07:46:08 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, those crazy canadians
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| 07:46:15 PM | agamotto | That must be the answer
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| 07:46:25 PM | Davetech | installing the pogo beta
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| 07:47:01 PM | SammySez | I gave up on my PogoPlug. The cat seems to like to chew on it, so its worth something at least.
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| 07:47:07 PM | agamotto | So, Robbie is on at 1900 EDT, or 0000 GST, yes?
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| 07:47:12 PM | alket | I couldnt watch the show since January so i forggot that it starts on 00:00 and ends at 1:00
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| 07:47:27 PM | _Jot_ | alket, yeah, it changes sometimes becuase of wintertime and summeritme etc too
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| 07:47:36 PM | GoodGuy | Kitty chew toys are expensive SammySez? :-)
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| 07:48:03 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- Only when they are diabetic toes....
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| 07:48:09 PM | SammySez | And the MagicJack is a horrible, horrible device FYI. Inbound quality is great, but outbound is horrid no matter what I do with it.
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| 07:48:16 PM | DougEFresh_ | Jot, i had no luck with the cd boot. it still mute.
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| 07:48:22 PM | SammySez | heh.
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| 07:48:22 PM | GregInTexas | sounds latin to me ...
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| 07:48:44 PM | Dosbomber | Does Gimp have macro functions like Photoshop?
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| 07:48:48 PM | agamotto | I could, but it will take me some time to translate.... I havent had much use for my Latin since college....
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| 07:48:50 PM | GoodGuy | Thanks SammySez.... I bought one at a garage sale, but never tried using it
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| 07:49:03 PM | GregInTexas | thats a good question Dosbomber!
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| 07:49:09 PM | GoodGuy | I wondered if it was worth pursuing
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| 07:49:20 PM | agamotto | SammySez- Does your router do QoS?
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| 07:49:25 PM | SammySez | I think if I had more time with a command line thru SSH for the Pogo or something, I might have more of a use for it. But the web interface is difficult to use with large numbers of files, and the P: driver for Windows just never really impressed me.
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| 07:49:41 PM | GoodGuy | I thought Id have to pay the $19 a yr just to try it
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| 07:49:45 PM | Dosbomber | Would save a lot of time and aggravation with the client if you clicked a single button and all the mockup stuff would toggle in or out
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| 07:50:10 PM | SammySez | The Linux stuff to connect to Pogo was fun the first time I did, but is not something I want to do everytime I want to use Pogo from Linux
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| 07:50:14 PM | chrisreich | Hey SammySez does magicJack have its phone number in the package with the device, or do you get your number on-line, or can you assign a number? How does one get ones phone number w/ MagicJack?
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| 07:50:16 PM | alket | this zooming makes me dizzy
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| 07:50:21 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- You mean like showing/removing layers outlines?
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| 07:50:25 PM | GoodGuy | They have a version of Linux that runs on it with work SammySez... OpenPogo iirc
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| 07:50:35 PM | SammySez | GoodGuy - yeah the MagicJack is something I wish I would have spent, oh...., 3 minutes researching on the web before buying it. :)
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| 07:50:41 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- number is assigned
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| 07:50:51 PM | Dosbomber | agamotto: Yeah, but all the appropriate layers in or out with a macro
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| 07:51:03 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- ahhh
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| 07:51:07 PM | GoodGuy | Everyone complains about the password not being retained and no cut-paste SammySez
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| 07:51:32 PM | GoodGuy | I researched it a couple yrs ago... over 90% liked it
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| 07:51:38 PM | agamotto | I am considering one of those Ooma devices myself
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| 07:51:45 PM | SammySez | with MagicJack, when you buy it, you plug it in and it walks you through a Wizard. You can pick your own number for like an extra $3 if I recall and even has a spell-by-number feature, but I just gave it an area code and let it piok the number for me
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| 07:51:47 PM | GoodGuy | The ones that didnt, hated it! No middle ground
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| 07:52:16 PM | GoodGuy | I am also agamotto.. Costco has Ooma for $179 USA
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| 07:52:32 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- My major strike against MagicJack is the spyware, along with the fact that removing the software is a nightmare.
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| 07:52:35 PM | cable101 | hey sammysez when i got rid of comcaST phone i got ooma and it works awesome
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| 07:52:47 PM | GoodGuy | Just we have health issues, so my wife is scared of net phones
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| 07:52:58 PM | SammySez | GoodGuy - probably true. I hear others had same issues as me, but after trying everything recommended, it is still bad. I use the soft phone part, but I can get that cheaper in Skype and free in Google. I havent completely given up on it though.
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| 07:53:04 PM | alket | yea, hide that apple with window :p
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| 07:53:08 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- pre-paid mobiles for 911 access?
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| 07:53:12 PM | Davetech | WOW. Pogo beta software works like a charm!!!
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| 07:53:19 PM | chrisreich | MagicJack is spyware? Really?
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| 07:53:23 PM | SammySez | cable101 - yeah someone just turned me on to the ooma link. I need to check that out. It works good huh?
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| 07:53:40 PM | GoodGuy | We have cheap cell phones.. they didnt work during that midwest blackout
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| 07:53:47 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- yes, it looks at you browsing habits, to generate the adverts
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| 07:53:52 PM | GoodGuy | My wife never forgot that
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| 07:54:00 PM | SammySez | agamotto - yes, I heard that too
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| 07:54:12 PM | SammySez | and it feeds ads the whole time the "phone"
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| 07:54:13 PM | GoodGuy | Not like we have week long blackouts often
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| 07:54:15 PM | SammySez | applet is running
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| 07:54:36 PM | agamotto | I have made around $150 this year, ripping Magicjack software out of peoples computers
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| 07:54:38 PM | SammySez | to me it is $40 right down the loo
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| 07:54:58 PM | cable101 | yeah your able to set router setting for Qos and you have control of your number
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| 07:55:04 PM | SammySez | agamotto - yes, MagicJack does NOT provide an uninstaller
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| 07:55:16 PM | SammySez | even if you dont use the software, it spies on you - yes
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| 07:55:16 PM | GoodGuy | I paid $4 for mine used, but itll be $19 to use it
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| 07:55:21 PM | agamotto | Most virii dont... chuckle
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| 07:55:42 PM | alket | Is it just me or the audio is a bit choppy
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| 07:55:47 PM | GoodGuy | I have Total Uninstaller, so it can uninstall it when need be
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| 07:55:54 PM | euqrop | just installed pogoplug soft and it works fine
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| 07:56:05 PM | euqrop | installed on my phone
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| 07:56:17 PM | GregInTexas | may be just you alket ... my audio is perfect
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| 07:56:26 PM | euqrop | and iam ....
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| 07:56:29 PM | agamotto | mine seems to be fine
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| 07:56:32 PM | euqrop | whitout words
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| 07:56:58 PM | alket | Thanks, I think my headphones are starting to get older
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| 07:57:00 PM | chrisreich | does MagicJack require Windows?
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| 07:57:14 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- yes, as far as I know
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| 07:57:23 PM | SammySez | MagicJack is Windoze and Mac
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| 07:57:37 PM | calhydro | If its Free its Me
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| 07:57:50 PM | SammySez | I would run away from it tho
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| 07:57:53 PM | SammySez | screaming
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| 07:57:54 PM | GregInTexas | if you are a photographer, gimp wont really be a good fit for you
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| 07:57:58 PM | SammySez | with malice
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| 07:58:04 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, I wonder how you would rip the softs out of a Mac....
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| 07:58:24 PM | GregInTexas | kewl
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| 07:58:35 PM | DrawBot_8122 | I have grabbed a list of all active users in the chat room.
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| 07:58:36 PM | DrawBot_8122 | Good luck with the contest!
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| 07:58:38 PM | ajamison5579 | yey
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| 07:58:38 PM | _Jot_ | is it time for Drawbot?
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| 07:58:43 PM | chrisreich | so if I install MagicJack on a spare computer on which I dont browse the web, I guess I get random ads. Just thinking...
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| 07:58:45 PM | SammySez | hey - thats a black pogo
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| 07:58:48 PM | GregInTexas | oooo drawbot
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| 07:58:53 PM | _Jot_ | its the business-pogoplug
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| 07:58:54 PM | dman810 | Pogoplug!!
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| 07:58:56 PM | Gadwil | The PogoPlug software seems to have an interface close to Dropbox... I like it.
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| 07:59:09 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- yes, if you put it on a low-power/use machine, then things will be fine
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| 07:59:44 PM | dman810 | thanks Robbie!
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| 07:59:51 PM | _Jot_ | strange, Drawbot didnt show up today
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| 07:59:51 PM | GregInTexas | Suggestion: Do a show on good visual website design
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| 07:59:56 PM | Davetech | Me me
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| 07:59:59 PM | Gadwil | I never saw Drawbot enter a while ago.
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| 07:59:59 PM | agamotto | Reminds me of that blues singer on In Living Color....
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| 08:00:02 PM | Gadwil | That was fast.
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| 08:00:14 PM | Davetech | Awwwww
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| 08:00:19 PM | _Jot_ | grats rd_blair and popey
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| 08:00:20 PM | Yazid1965 | Nice
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| 08:00:24 PM | rd_blair1 | yes
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| 08:00:25 PM | Gadwil | That is nice.... 2 Birds with one stone.
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| 08:00:27 PM | Gatorman | Does Roy W. Nash really exist? Has anyone ever seen Roy W. Nash?
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| 08:00:27 PM | GregInTexas | grats yall
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| 08:00:30 PM | dman810 | Congrates Popey
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| 08:00:31 PM | ajamison5579 | no fair Popey has won like 5 pogoplugs
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| 08:00:32 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 08:00:42 PM | Gadwil | I have seen his name on the site somewhere.
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| 08:00:43 PM | _Jot_ | youd think Jot would win by now, but nooo
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| 08:00:52 PM | agamotto | "Ah split a fingernail once! Wanna hear a song about it? Here it goes...."
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| 08:00:59 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, Nice Drawbot addition.... 2 names with one draw.
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| 08:01:02 PM | chrisreich | good night all
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| 08:01:10 PM | dman810 | thanks Robbie
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| 08:01:11 PM | Yazid1965 | Good Night All
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| 08:01:14 PM | alket | RobbieF: Nice serie !
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| 08:01:20 PM | kiwi_tux | Hi all, from sunny Christchurch, New Zealand
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