Chat Logs for Episode 192 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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Chat Logs:

07:00:13 PMChrista here we gooooo!
07:00:15 PMpyrosrock woo the show has begun!
07:00:28 PMGadwil I love the new "Live" picture for the site.
07:00:30 PMfinalblogger hai Robbie ..will you guys charge for your show when we become addict to it.. pure capitalist approach
07:00:33 PMDosbomber Wow... speakers... up... too... loud...
07:00:34 PMGadwil Very warming.
07:01:01 PMCodarz360 Erm 25th :D
07:01:02 PMdman810 Hello All!
07:01:05 PMagamotto finalblogger- It hasnt happened in nearly 4 years, so no worries there, methinks
07:01:13 PMpyrosrock Dosbomber, yeah same massive distortion and ear ringing
07:01:16 PMGadwil anyone else having a tad bit of lag?
07:01:18 PMraptor222 uuuu, pogoplug giveaway day :-)
07:01:23 PMtordeu great... we got the thunderstorms instead.
07:01:34 PMpyrosrock Gadwil no
07:01:48 PMagamotto Gadwil- a little
07:01:52 PMDosbomber Canadians have holidays?
07:01:55 PMraptor222 I have no lag.
07:02:08 PMdman810 little lag
07:02:17 PMfinalblogger thats great
07:02:21 PMGadwil I so need a new router... I wan a Smoothwall router, Open-DDWRT is simply better than default, I want SPEED from my router.
07:02:23 PMfinalblogger i am new with cat5
07:02:24 PMmmdmurphy1 Must have been "Canukistan Day"
07:02:25 PMfinalblogger :)
07:02:36 PMGadwil Ok, it has smoothed out now.
07:03:02 PMagamotto Gadwil- believe it or not, Netgear makes at least 1 gateway box that does N and is DD-WRT based!
07:03:03 PM{BBI}Nexus{BBI} Greetings everyone :)
07:03:07 PMDosbomber She needs to rootch about 3 feet to the left
07:03:10 PMfinalblogger christa i like ur neckless
07:03:13 PMfinalblogger :P
07:03:37 PMGadwil agamotto, Netgear is what I am using now... They have 1 that is built for the Mega DDWRT version, they advertise it, but it is not default. Perhaps they have one where it is default.
07:03:48 PMfinalblogger yes great
07:03:49 PMchrisreich People of Earth, Greetings
07:03:51 PMGadwil But I still want IDS too, so Snort built in is a nice bonus.
07:03:54 PMDosbomber Netgear 3500L?
07:04:00 PMdman810 Sounds Great!
07:04:09 PMagamotto Ahh, that does sound like the one I found in Walmart the other day... around $80?
07:04:09 PMfinalblogger sound is fine
07:04:14 PMpyrosrock RobbieF u need to swich on the 80 filter
07:04:17 PMmmdmurphy1 Sounds good, but I would roll off the low - kinda boom-ie
07:04:21 PMRexDameon what was up with my captcha it was May 21 themed "ratesish spiritual"
07:04:22 PMajamison5579 robbief it picks up your breath on some words more then the lapel did but that is probably hand in hand with a head set
07:04:26 PMgpop7 helloooooo everyone.
07:04:28 PMGregInTexas it would take 3, maybe 4 days to drive to canada in order to show them support
07:04:49 PMdman810 gpop7 - Hello!
07:04:55 PMCodarz360 + robbies beer ;)
07:05:02 PMfinalblogger love to do that
07:05:04 PMagamotto ajamison5579- needs a fuzzy bit on the end doesnt he?
07:05:11 PMRexDameon lol greg i almost asked where you are from then read your name duh
07:05:18 PMGregInTexas lol
07:05:26 PMajamison5579 agamotto does it make a difference
07:05:39 PMfinalblogger hurrayyyyyyyyyyy
07:05:40 PMmmdmurphy1 ME ME
07:05:41 PMpyrosrock agamoto yeah or enable the filter
07:05:43 PMfinalblogger meeeeeeeeeeee
07:05:45 PMagamotto ajamison5579- big one, tends to screen out movement noise
07:05:46 PMfinalblogger meeeeeeeeeeeee
07:06:03 PMGregInTexas wirecast b kewl
07:06:14 PMGregInTexas but its windows
07:06:16 PM{BBI}Nexus{BBI} Hooraayyy...
07:06:18 PMGadwil finalblogger, YOu dont need to keep repeating "meeee...", once is enough.
07:06:23 PMRexDameon does that mean Christa is leaving?
07:06:28 PMfinalblogger ohh sorryyy
07:06:32 PMGadwil my video keeps locking up.
07:06:33 PMpyrosrock RobbieF enable the filter or move the mic away from ur mouth to stop wind noist!
07:06:38 PMfinalblogger :(
07:06:38 PMagamotto Nah, now we get to borgify her
07:06:42 PMCodarz360 NO CHRISTA STAY!
07:06:43 PMfinalblogger ohh no christa
07:06:46 PMfinalblogger dont leave
07:06:47 PMGadwil Hopefully
07:06:51 PMdman810 the suspense!
07:06:53 PMGregInTexas no christa .... stay STAY!
07:06:58 PMmmdmurphy1 LINK?
07:07:01 PMfinalblogger i m there
07:07:04 PMagamotto We will begin by making her a Penguinista!!!!
07:07:04 PMfinalblogger now
07:07:06 PMGregInTexas a bio? really?
07:07:06 PMfinalblogger :)
07:07:27 PMCodarz360 CHRISTA I WILL PAY YOUR WAGE IF YOU STAY LOL
07:07:27 PMtordeu mmdmurphy1: http://www.category5.tv/bios/christa-wells.php
07:07:34 PMchrisreich Please stay Christa!
07:07:48 PMmmdmurphy1 THANKS
07:08:37 PMagamotto Canon Rebel.... nice kit
07:08:49 PMRexDameon i think the cat5.tv acuisition for short URL is the best improvment to this show because im just soooo lazy in wanting to type out Category
07:08:57 PMajamison5579 RobbieF are they a sponsor? Or just a good camera
07:08:57 PMignacio82 Robbief are you going to teach us how to fix the footer http://demo.cat5.tv/009/about_us.php ?
07:08:58 PMgpop7 hello dman810. sorry i step away for a minute.
07:09:20 PMCodarz360 ME IN THE UK :D
07:09:22 PMdman810 gpop7 - no problem
07:09:25 PMfinalblogger hahahah
07:09:29 PMGadwil ajamison, we may never know the answer to that question.
07:09:30 PMChrista will I stay? will I go? find out next time at category 5!
07:09:32 PMagamotto ooooo, kwayrnahvaka.......
07:09:32 PMfinalblogger christa interesting
07:09:33 PMChrista haha
07:09:37 PMGoodGuy create a bookmark or icon RexDameon
07:09:38 PMRexDameon um i dont see anything
07:09:47 PMGoodGuy less effort
07:09:48 PMGadwil Christa, If this is a democracy, my vote is for stay.
07:09:52 PMagamotto ajamison5579- Very nice kit
07:10:06 PMfinalblogger even dictators will force you to stay
07:10:08 PMRexDameon chrisa the correct laugh your looking for is "Muhahaha"
07:10:09 PMfinalblogger lol
07:10:12 PMGadwil I blame the computer.
07:10:15 PMchrisreich Ive been in Cuernavaca, "land of eternal spring". Lovely place.
07:10:17 PMraptor222 RobbieF the screen is just gray
07:10:19 PMDosbomber Yeah, but its limited to Earth, right?
07:10:19 PMGoodGuy My vote is to leave... just so Im different than the crowd lol
07:10:27 PMpyrosrock lol australia is funny looks like 5 ppl watching but just everyone in the same places
07:10:28 PMajamison5579 agamotto if only he had a camera that could film that high rez
07:10:40 PMajamison5579 but that is alot of moola
07:10:41 PMDosbomber I think Im in the Twilight Zone. :P
07:10:52 PMagamotto ajamison5579- not to mention the bandwidth
07:10:56 PMraptor222 6 people in Israel!
07:10:58 PMfinalblogger i am in UK
07:11:01 PMfinalblogger :)
07:11:06 PMraptor222 includes me
07:11:17 PMGadwil Is anyone in here certified (current or out-of-date) for anything under Cisco?
07:11:49 PMDosbomber I havent had a current cert in networking stuff in some years. :(
07:11:56 PMtordeu I am the "northest" one in Germany. Yay me.
07:11:56 PMagamotto kevoh might be by...
07:11:57 PMgpop7 i might have to step away. just got some unexpected guest.
07:11:57 PMagamotto Finland, Finland, Finland....
07:12:03 PMchrisreich "Suomi" means Finland in Finnish
07:12:06 PMajamison5579 Germany? Send me some choclate please unless we have someone from switzerland here
07:12:10 PMCodarz360 Manchester :D ME
07:12:12 PMagamotto No one in NewFOUNDland?
07:12:17 PMajamison5579 lol
07:12:24 PMdman810 Hello all Michigan Viewers
07:12:30 PMGadwil I got CCENT today, may take the Network+ cert test to compare to CCENT, my instructor is thinking of changing the course to Network+ so High School students may be able to pass it.
07:12:33 PMGoodGuy hello dman810
07:12:41 PMagamotto No chocolat du Belgique?
07:12:43 PMmmdmurphy1 agamotto - Finland has it all
07:12:52 PMGregInTexas yep ... Im on there
07:13:09 PMGoodGuy Hello Norway!
07:13:09 PMCodarz360 Find me robbie
07:13:27 PMagamotto Gadwil- What are these two things you speak of?
07:13:29 PMtordeu lol @ ajamison5579. I would prefer to keep my swiss chocolate ;-)
07:13:30 PMCodarz360 UK
07:13:42 PMGadwil Pogoplug is in the photo!
07:13:43 PMalphie How to ruin a good company -->NOKIA!
07:14:39 PMGoodGuy I wonder why Firefox Adblock Plus isnt blocking the ads in the Ustream feed
07:14:43 PMGadwil agamotto, CCENT is Cisco Certified Entry network Technician, basically I can subnet and configure a cisco router for basic access. Network+ is from CompTIA, and is vendor neutral setup of routers and Subnetting basically. That is the simple comparison.
07:15:17 PMRaffer but i like that goodguy
07:15:19 PMagamotto Ahhhh, way beyond my days of being Novell -certified
07:15:46 PMGoodGuy I want the ads to go away..blocks part of the image
07:15:50 PMagamotto Hmmm. a shot watching Category5 on the Mythbox, in a cardigan!!!!
07:16:27 PMRaffer read it wrong my addblock puls blocks them
07:16:39 PMRaffer and i use firefox
07:16:46 PMGoodGuy Occasionally I download the Cat5 episode on Miro, copy to a flash drive and view on a WD Live TV
07:17:00 PMDosbomber I created a custom shortcut that takes me directly to the live stream... no UStream ads at all
07:17:09 PMfinalblogger yeahhh
07:17:14 PMfinalblogger :)
07:17:18 PMGoodGuy Using Ustream?
07:17:22 PMDosbomber Yeah
07:17:24 PMRaffer yes
07:17:48 PMagamotto I think there is a built-in filter for that....
07:17:48 PMDosbomber I have both the main camera and the backstage streaming in 2 windows at the same time, neither have ads
07:17:55 PMGoodGuy I meant that for Raffer, but it applies to both
07:18:12 PMagamotto Dosbomber- You bandwidth hog, you!!!
07:18:12 PMDosbomber Sorry, nevermind
07:18:24 PMRaffer i just use the links robbie posts on the site
07:18:25 PMGoodGuy How did you create the shortcut Dosbomber ?
07:18:40 PMRaffer no adds
07:19:12 PMDosbomber Lets find out if it works for you...
07:19:26 PMGoodGuy Sounds good
07:19:42 PMagamotto Hmmm, rain stopped
07:19:59 PMGadwil Just got my domain hosted... now to start getting some stuff on it.
07:20:00 PMpyrosrock agamotto no still raining
07:20:21 PMagamotto Gadwil- Fun, isnt it?
07:20:27 PMraptor222 RobbieF, thank you just tried a small test, the result is exactly what I want.
07:20:35 PMGregInTexas rain? whats that
07:20:56 PMGregInTexas COOKIES!!!
07:20:57 PMGadwil agamotto, not sure yet, first I am putting Piwik on, then simply copying over a theme I downloaded from a site that people post free CSS themes on.
07:20:59 PMYazid1965 COOKIES!!!!
07:20:59 PMagamotto moisture from the sky, versus moisture from the ground :)
07:21:01 PMGadwil RobbieF, this is mean.
07:21:16 PMfinalblogger christa you might become fat
07:21:20 PMfinalblogger lol
07:21:27 PMGadwil RobbieF, Give away Chips Ahoy cookies as a giveaway.
07:21:34 PMraptor222 No! no! no! RobbieF you need to give out home made ones.
07:21:34 PMagamotto RobbieF- No, magic is Sees Peanut Brittle..... manna indeed
07:21:42 PMalphie People still dual boot!
07:22:09 PMtordeu So that is the giveaway tonight.
07:22:16 PMajamison5579 alphie i tri-boot
07:22:17 PMGoodGuy I tried accepting it Dosbomber
07:22:25 PMchrisreich dual-booting is for people who cant make a committment.
07:22:35 PMGoodGuy It displayed a save dialog and a DCC Box
07:22:37 PMDosbomber Didnt get it? Ive never DCCd with ChatZilla before.
07:22:38 PMGadwil I just found out why my video was on-and-off... I had microtorrent running! *doh*
07:22:43 PMChrista haha, looks like Im the winner for the give-away then
07:22:48 PMChrista Cookies!
07:22:50 PMGoodGuy It looked ready to go
07:22:58 PMGoodGuy Try again?
07:23:07 PMagamotto chrisreich- I only keep Win around for games.... and even that is starting to slip, thanks to the latest versions of WINE
07:23:15 PMchrisreich Christa youd be my choice as a prize for the give-away.
07:23:20 PMajamison5579 i like windows and Linux so i dual boot then i wanted to try Ubuntu 11.04 so now i tri-boot
07:23:26 PMtordeu You have been cheating, Christa. The bot has to choose you first.
07:23:44 PMagamotto ajamison5579- 11.04? How is it so far?
07:23:49 PMpyrosrock agamotto yeah i have windoze 4 games and stupid itunes
07:23:55 PMajamison5579 great minus Unity
07:24:06 PMtordeu better with Unity
07:24:09 PMagamotto pyrosrock- You might be able to drop itunes with Miro 4
07:24:12 PMYazid1965 Pogo Pogo Pogplug.. ye
07:24:15 PMYazid1965 yes
07:24:18 PMchrisreich Christa, just for a coke-date, you understand.
07:24:21 PMalphie agamotto, havent even tried it yet - still in Squeeze
07:24:24 PMGregInTexas UGR
07:24:37 PMGregInTexas ubuntu gnome3 remix
07:24:47 PMtordeu for a Christal Coke?
07:24:51 PMGoodGuy Let me change a setting - brb
07:24:52 PMagamotto RobbieF- does linux mint do gnome 3 yet?
07:24:53 PMpyrosrock agamotto but i need to sync my stupid ipod
07:25:03 PMGadwil You are best using OpenSUSE, Fedora, or Archlinux for a simple Gnome3 w/ Gnome-Shell.
07:25:10 PMu-al If you just want to try Ubuntu wubi is a good way to go
07:25:18 PMagamotto pyrosrock- supposedly, with Miro 4, that has been added.
07:25:38 PMGuest_1817 Fedora 15 uses gnome 3.0
07:26:01 PMpyrosrock hmm... i have miro installed in ubuntu duno if i can be bothered to re sync 80g of music
07:26:06 PMGregInTexas Fedora 15 is still in beta, but I hear good things about it
07:26:19 PMGadwil GregInTexas... F15 was released today.
07:26:22 PMchrisreich Fedora 15 was released today.
07:26:26 PMGregInTexas really?
07:26:29 PMCodarz360 .iso
07:26:31 PMGadwil Yuppers.
07:26:31 PMas759 ISO is good and quick delivery
07:26:34 PMGregInTexas wow .... things move fast
07:26:55 PMajamison5579 Unity makes me frustrated as anything
07:27:05 PMpyrosrock agamotto, hmm... i have miro installed in ubuntu duno if i can be bothered to re sync 80g of music
07:27:16 PMGregInTexas my question: how do I get rhythm box to actually find the album information?
07:27:21 PMagamotto pyrosrock- v4?
07:27:25 PMtordeu Unity is great. So much better
07:27:33 PMignacio82 i love unity
07:27:38 PMas759 Im still getting use to it ... but its ok
07:27:38 PMCodarz360 What is unity?
07:27:43 PMchrisreich xfce FTW!
07:27:45 PMpyrosrock agamotto will old miro not auto update?
07:27:46 PMajamison5579 Unity and Gnome-shell are overly simplified for me
07:27:46 PMGoodGuy Try again Dosbomber
07:27:47 PMagamotto unity is for touchscreens and children
07:27:53 PMagamotto pyrosrock- not sure
07:28:02 PMpyrosrock RobbieF there is a thread in the forums
07:28:10 PMGuest_1817 i use classic ubuntu on the desktop and unity on a laptop for ubuntu 11.04
07:28:23 PMtordeu , d, i, and digikam starts.
07:28:23 PMraptor222 Unity has a ways to go before its anywhere close to gnome 2.x, and its designed specifically for tablets.
07:28:36 PMagamotto I have been using trackballs for years - dont want wrist strain
07:28:58 PMraptor222 Gnome 3.0 how ever is little bit better, because its HIGHLY customizable.
07:29:08 PMChrista yay! news and time to eat my cookie!
07:29:27 PMalphie I cannot criticize it because I have not tried it, but if you use chrome or chromium and mostly web apps, it appears the way to go on a notebook.
07:29:32 PMagamotto Darn it, all this talk of cookies has given me the munchies
07:29:42 PMDosbomber What about the crooks who broke into your studio, Robbie? Any word on their capture?
07:30:27 PMDosbomber Is her audio funny or that just me?
07:30:35 PMchrisreich RobbieF audio is phasing in/out
07:30:35 PMGuest_1817 RobbieF how is the new computer working?
07:30:36 PMRaffer a little
07:30:37 PMpyrosrock RobbieF hillary not legibale
07:30:40 PMagamotto I wonder how many people will just wind up demanding refunds for their PS3s?
07:30:46 PMraptor222 not just you Dosbomber, super choppy
07:30:51 PMmmdmurphy1 well, how do you mean funny? Its not making me laugh ...
07:31:03 PMagamotto Her audio is rather robotic
07:31:08 PMChrista chrisreich, I think pogoplug is way more exciting then a christa give-away
07:31:23 PMtordeu are you SERIOUS?
07:31:33 PMraptor222 a few thousands already returned their PS3s agamotto.
07:31:35 PMDosbomber Sounds some someone is playing with her volume knob
07:31:37 PMfinalblogger am i the only one with sound problems
07:31:37 PMagamotto Now it is simply inaudibe
07:31:39 PMmmdmurphy1 agamotto and arent they the ones that got bent when you put linux on it?
07:31:43 PMYazid1965 =-O
07:31:49 PMagamotto raptor222- good start!
07:31:58 PMfinalblogger very bad sound
07:32:01 PMchrisreich Christa - I said later, just for a coke-date. Not for keepsies.
07:32:03 PMGregInTexas I can hear it fine but am having a hard time understanding
07:32:13 PMajamison5579 she has to go through skype due to no server
07:32:14 PMagamotto mmdmurphy1- Quite... I wonder if the Air Force is still going after them in court over it.
07:32:22 PMChrista haha, I know....but Im pretty excited about the pogoplug giveaway
07:32:29 PMChrista I wish I were a viewer so I could win it
07:32:32 PMfinalblogger thanks christa
07:32:42 PMfinalblogger ill take on ur behalf
07:32:44 PMraptor222 Hey, I like PS3. Its the only game console officially supported here in israel.
07:32:45 PMfinalblogger lol
07:32:47 PMtordeu I am excited about that as well. But not THAT excited.
07:32:50 PMmmdmurphy1 agamotto - so, now you cant play games on them or boot to linux. I might buy some cheap....
07:32:52 PMCodarz360 SEO - Meta Tags, Keywords ahhh lol
07:32:58 PMagamotto ajamison5579- wow... my Skype sessions have never been like that
07:33:02 PMfinalblogger thank God its finished
07:33:05 PMchrisreich Theres not a Pogoplug give away today, is there? RobbieF said its some software package.
07:33:27 PMCodarz360 Robbie explain the google algorithm ;) lol
07:33:28 PMChrista did I say pogoplug? I meant the awesomeness give away
07:33:31 PMajamison5579 agamotto her laptop must have high latency
07:33:48 PMagamotto raptor222- sorry to hear that Sony is the only one
07:33:56 PMtordeu Oh....I am all for that. You can never have enough awesome.
07:33:59 PMchrisreich Christa did you let the pig out of the bag?
07:34:02 PMGregInTexas you will submit google!
07:34:03 PMalphie i didnt do anything, hits from yahoo and google just start showing up.
07:34:05 PMagamotto ajamison5579- i figured something like that
07:34:09 PMtordeu We should have awesome points on the website instead of viewer points
07:34:27 PMajamison5579 I like Sony and will continue to use the PS3 as well as buying a PS4 when and if they ever make one
07:34:27 PMtordeu Or Awesome instead of karma....oooh I got an idea for a forum post.
07:34:35 PMignacio82 Robbief & Christa remember to fix the footer in http://demo.cat5.tv/009/about_us.php
07:34:37 PMLedzep_ test
07:34:42 PMpyrosrock RT: [09:34] We should have awesome points on the website instead of viewer points
07:34:55 PMagamotto I know that last Tuesday, my DNS was buggered beyond belief
07:35:12 PMajamison5579 pyroshock RT ? this is not twitter lol
07:35:21 PMLedzep_ I couldnt connect via MIRC ??
07:35:31 PMtordeu well, its like twitter with more characters.
07:36:02 PMpyrosrock ajamison5579 yeah i know but i kinda forgot and then was like o well ill do it anyway
07:36:07 PMagamotto Sounds like nested GOSUBs
07:36:21 PMGregInTexas not exactly
07:36:37 PMGadwil Anyone know if there is a wait in time before one can upload files to a web server via FTP?
07:36:46 PMagamotto three letters is user friendly?
07:37:04 PMGregInTexas what do you mean, Gadwil?
07:37:06 PMagamotto Gadwil- 30sec?
07:37:37 PMajamison5579 Gadwil it depends on your host generaly speaking the more you pay for hosting they less likely or smaller delay you have
07:37:38 PMGadwil I am trying to upload the Piwik folder to my server, but it got stuck into a loop saying there was a critcal error, now I am trying to figure out why.
07:37:44 PMCodarz360 Robbie why dont you just type it in the header instead of making a new PHP file?
07:37:45 PMpyrosrock agamotto, when u put a - behind the name without a space it dosent alert the user
07:37:53 PMagamotto Gadwil- ewwww, doesnt sound good
07:38:04 PMagamotto pyrosrock- ahhh
07:38:07 PMGadwil I am in though, the main thing is there is no DNS entry for it yet... I am connected to FTP just fine now.
07:38:27 PMDosbomber Ive seen people go absolutely nuts with meta tags in here
07:38:34 PMGadwil I will SSH in, create a sub-folder, and then try to copy the files over as a batch into the folder, versus just copying the folder.
07:38:44 PMajamison5579 Codarz360 in this example he could have but he is showing that for bigger sites you can add the title and keywords there so every page has the same keywords and title
07:38:48 PMDosbomber Every keyword, 50 times, and pages and pages of them
07:39:04 PMajamison5579 without updating every page independantly
07:39:06 PMCodarz360 Ah I see cheers.
07:39:15 PMagamotto Ah, so a master list of them for all pages attached to said site....
07:39:50 PMtordeu Just put in "boats" 100000000 times in there so Google knows how serious we are.
07:39:54 PMajamison5579 yep
07:40:12 PMDosbomber tordeu: Thats the craziness I was talking about... Ive seen that done.... a lot.
07:40:15 PMagamotto What if you just leave them out altogether?
07:40:16 PMajamison5579 small webpages do not really benefit from this but larger ones such as Category5 would
07:40:49 PMajamison5579 If you leave the keywords out they are just not there the title would error out you have to have something for title
07:41:19 PMagamotto Ok, so at least the sites title if nothing else....
07:41:37 PMajamison5579 yes
07:41:41 PMGregInTexas the text for the page is worth more than the keywords
07:41:51 PMfinalblogger what if you have a blog page
07:41:57 PMfinalblogger how can you add that
07:41:58 PMagamotto I consider most keywords to be verbal... excess
07:42:01 PMfinalblogger ?
07:42:02 PMajamison5579 gregintexas correct but the keywords are what the content is ranked under
07:42:03 PMtordeu Robbie forgot to put "awesome" in there.
07:42:10 PMGadwil Ok, so I learned why I cant just copy the Piwik folder over, it is trying to create a new folder under jonathangarbee.com, which it wont allow yet. But I can put stuff under the www and etc folders.
07:42:22 PMGregInTexas thats right ... in the case of a blog, pretty important
07:42:24 PMajamison5579 blog platforms have built in components
07:42:33 PMpyrosrock RobbieF can u do the opoisite to search engin optimisation make the site compleetly underground
07:42:36 PMagamotto Gadwil- Ok, odd, but logical
07:42:49 PMajamison5579 Wordpress does meta automagicaly based on the tags you give pages or posts
07:42:57 PMagamotto pyrosrock- ;>
07:43:04 PMGadwil Yea, I think I just need to shell in and do it, or make it using Omniss software online. Now I need to make it NOT forward to my dads site.
07:43:19 PMalphie Thats HTML not php, so should you even include the opening and closing php tags?
07:43:22 PMtordeu yeah, pyrosrock: Just add the keyword "I love bing and yahoo"
07:43:25 PMajamison5579 pyrosrock yes you just do everything the search engines hate
07:43:29 PMmmdmurphy1 Canadian tongue twister "About Boats, but..."\\
07:43:44 PMagamotto ahahahaha
07:44:09 PMagamotto Yes, Scots and their linguistic vowel movements....
07:44:27 PMajamison5579 200000 keywords content with a bunch of ahhh and stuff basicaly content in the first 200 words of the site that would make the search engine ignore you
07:45:16 PMGuest_1817 blinking
07:45:20 PMpyrosrock tordeu: ajamison5579: there used to be a tag i thought to tell the search engines not to list/index ur pagew
07:45:32 PMGregInTexas use a robots.txt, pyrosrock
07:45:38 PMalphie Look up
07:45:41 PMagamotto pyrosrock- still beign worked on, if memory serves
07:45:44 PMtordeu well, if you really want to, you could use robots.txt
07:46:07 PMalphie Should he remove the php tag from around the HTML?
07:46:10 PMpyrosrock robots.txt?
07:46:18 PMajamison5579 there is a meta tag that tells bots to not crawl the site but the bot has to actually read meta tags
07:46:40 PMajamison5579 most search engine bots do
07:46:42 PMGregInTexas crawlers (theoretically) read the robots.txt file to see if they are allowed to index the site
07:46:52 PMagamotto robots.txt with the content of no, if I remember the article correctly?
07:47:08 PMGregInTexas more cryptic than that
07:47:27 PMtordeu User-agent: *
07:47:29 PMtordeu Disallow: /
07:47:42 PMagamotto Ok, been too long since the one I read then
07:47:44 PMGregInTexas yea, what he said ... lol
07:47:48 PMtordeu this applies to all user agents and disallows everything
07:48:02 PMGregInTexas well, user agents that pay attention to that
07:48:15 PMtordeu ok, of course
07:48:28 PMGregInTexas some dont , most do
07:49:11 PMajamison5579 agamotto there you go you can do dynamic titles like he is showing
07:49:20 PMajamison5579 with a seperate header
07:49:23 PMajamison5579 file
07:49:23 PMtordeu I think most big ones probably do. But if you really dont want them access your sites, create a password-protected site or dont put links for it anywhere.
07:49:48 PMagamotto ajamison5579- interesting... this will come in handy with our LUG site
07:50:03 PMGregInTexas or make it all php
07:50:17 PMagamotto tordeu- i was think more about hiding from those address-grabbers
07:50:49 PMGregInTexas those guys probably wouldnt pay attention to robots.tyxt anyway
07:50:58 PMagamotto darn
07:51:01 PMtordeu well, this will most likely not work. If users can visit your site, so can their crawlers.
07:51:21 PMagamotto visit is fine, I just dont want to hear from them....
07:51:24 PMGregInTexas there are techniques for that too though
07:51:52 PMtordeu formatting email addresses in a way they dont recognize it is probably the only thing if you dont want to make the site password-protected.
07:52:05 PMdavidmallette test
07:52:08 PMGregInTexas output email addresses using javascript and stuff like that
07:52:17 PMagamotto I have set up SpamAsassin for the sites email address, word fairly well...
07:52:36 PMtordeu well, crawlers might interpret javascript. most probably not, but I would not bet on it.
07:52:38 PMHillary Spam...canned ham?
07:52:53 PMDosbomber useraddressREMOVETHIS@domainname.com
07:52:54 PMdavidmallette forget to type / in MIRC (noogb)
07:53:11 PMagamotto Hillary- wrong kind, unfortunately.... I could at least use that version for the animal shelter
07:53:12 PMajamison5579 agamotto php is very powerful but start small or you will get overwhelmed trying to incorporate all the awesomeness take it from someone who has experieced this first hand
07:53:21 PMGregInTexas dont use a canned script, tordeu
07:53:28 PMGregInTexas or modify it
07:53:35 PMagamotto ajamison5579- i am already overwhelmed, so KISS is essential for me!!1
07:54:31 PMGregInTexas in php ... pay attention to single quotes vs. double quotes ... can trip you up
07:54:37 PMagamotto qclug.org if anyone wants to look... I plan on keeping it simple, still a work in progress.
07:54:52 PMGadwil SEO is built into our Omnis account, not sure how good it is though.
07:55:15 PMajamison5579 agamotto looks like one of those old Frontpage websites lol
07:55:16 PMBettleBug anyone know any free webhosting with db support?
07:55:17 PMmmdmurphy1 agamotto - looks clean
07:55:22 PMajamison5579 maybe it is just the menu on the left
07:55:25 PMas759 Thanks for the Webdev!
07:55:27 PMajamison5579 looks very frontpagish
07:55:38 PMGregInTexas looks nice agamotto
07:55:38 PMagamotto mmdmurphy1- we have tried to keep it simple for people who are blind or low-vision
07:55:43 PMGadwil I wanted to use Dreamhost due to IPv6 support, but my dad is paying the bill, so I went Omnis.
07:55:48 PMCodarz360 THANKS FOR THE WEB DEVELOPMENT SERIES SERIOUSLY
07:55:59 PMagamotto ajamison5579- I have an artist working on new iconography for that
07:56:01 PMGadwil Codarz360, Check the shouts.
07:56:20 PMCodarz360 The shouts?
07:56:28 PMGadwil Typing in all caps is considered shouting.
07:56:40 PMpyrosrock RobbieF no scripted bot?
07:56:46 PMCodarz360 Ah ok.
07:56:47 PMajamison5579 it is not a bad site though looks very cool
07:57:10 PMagamotto As I said, we strive for a Zen-style simplicity
07:57:22 PMmmdmurphy1 what are Quad Cities?
07:57:25 PMas759 Good basic start for web development
07:57:27 PMGregInTexas works for google, huh agamotto
07:57:43 PMDosbomber That was fast
07:57:46 PMagamotto We did move from the mailing list to a forum, for flexibility, and to keep out address -harvesters.
07:57:49 PMdman810 congrats #5
07:58:14 PMGregInTexas gratz Anthony
07:58:15 PMYazid1965 Five is alive ;-)
07:58:19 PMRexDameon congratz!
07:58:29 PMHillary WOOOHOOOOOO!
07:58:35 PMDosbomber Number Five is now Live (cuz hes Live Streaming)
07:58:49 PMdman810 good one Dosbomber
07:58:58 PMagamotto mmdmurphy1- currently, the towns/cities of Davenport and Bettendorf in Iowa, and Rock Island and Moline in Illinois.
07:59:00 PMYazid1965 cookies!!
07:59:05 PMCodarz360 Hey Hillary :D
07:59:07 PMRexDameon Come to the dark side...we got cookies
07:59:08 PMDosbomber lol Shes already looking for a better gig
07:59:09 PMGregInTexas cookies ...
07:59:30 PMHillary Codarz! Hey!~
07:59:39 PMYazid1965 cookies and cool beans... what a combo
07:59:44 PMdman810 RobbieF - you should give away cookies!
07:59:46 PMDrawBot_7762 I have grabbed a list of all active users in the chat room.
07:59:46 PMDrawBot_7762 Good luck with the contest!
07:59:49 PMGregInTexas this show goes really really fast!
08:00:03 PMagamotto Cookies and beans.... sounds smelly
08:00:06 PMalphie Linux Games show may be interesting.
08:00:10 PMCodarz360 Give away
08:00:11 PMGadwil Yall can eat them for us!
08:00:12 PMGregInTexas just put a stamp on them
08:00:25 PMCodarz360 Please stay chirsta!!
08:00:28 PMagamotto Famous Amos? Mrs. Fields?
08:00:36 PMDosbomber Customs officials will probably "confiscate" and eat them. :P
08:00:42 PMdman810 Mrs. Fields
08:00:45 PMGregInTexas can you bake cookies christa?
08:00:48 PMHillary I accept Mrs. Fields.
08:00:49 PMHillary :)
08:00:57 PMGadwil Should I set up a MySQL database on my website?
08:01:14 PMagamotto Gadwil- to what purpose?
08:01:21 PMHillary 2!
08:01:25 PMdman810 Come on Pogoplug
08:01:25 PMGregInTexas is your site dynamic, Gadwil?
08:01:27 PMHillary 2 POGOPLUGS!
08:01:31 PMraptor222 so, exiting
08:01:34 PMGadwil I know I wont use it immediatly, but this site is mainly for testing only....
08:01:35 PMYazid1965 pogo pogo pogoplug
08:01:36 PMHillary Unbelievable!
08:01:42 PMdavidmallette begging
08:01:48 PMfinalblogger mee
08:01:52 PMHillary Yippie ki eh! CONGRATS!
08:01:57 PMGadwil congrats.
08:01:58 PMYazid1965 congratulations
08:01:59 PMfinalblogger :(
08:02:02 PMtordeu So close
08:02:03 PMagamotto neato
08:02:08 PMfinalblogger congrats guys
08:02:08 PMGregInTexas congratz to pogo winners
08:02:13 PMRexDameon nice two of them
08:02:15 PMdavidmallette congrats guys
08:02:22 PMdman810 Congrats JOWar and jonathon
08:02:32 PMgpop7 congrats and enjoy.
08:02:32 PMGregInTexas 5,631
08:02:38 PMpyrosrock congrats they are a awesome devise
08:02:45 PMjonathon Thanks
08:02:47 PMChrista Yay! PogoPlugs!
08:02:55 PMGadwil GregInTexas, not dynamic that I know of, It will mainly be static, but I am thinking for testing extensions and addons and such I should do it.
08:03:00 PMagamotto I will BRB... going to get dinner started
08:03:08 PMgpop7 i enjoy my pogoplug
08:03:13 PMjonathon I have been wanting a Pogoplug
08:03:13 PMCodarz360 Great show again...
08:03:14 PMYazid1965 cool beans LOL
08:03:15 PMRobbieF Thanks everyone!
08:03:18 PMHillary thanks for tuning in people! Youda best!
08:03:19 PMfinalblogger christa u look great as always
08:03:21 PMHillary COOL BEANS!
08:03:22 PMHillary Ciao!
08:03:23 PMChrista Thanks for watching everyone
08:03:24 PMGadwil Hillary, Your "Cool Beans" at the end if the show is so cute.
08:03:27 PMChrista you guys are awesome!
08:03:30 PMfinalblogger thanks rrbbie
08:03:30 PMraptor222 Ok, goodnight everyone.
08:03:33 PMCodarz360 Christa please stay :)
08:03:33 PMGregInTexas well, you dont really need a database unless you are capturing data or serving pages depending on something
08:03:44 PMgpop7 goodnight robbief,hillary and christa .
08:03:45 PMYazid1965 Good Night Hillary
08:03:55 PMCodarz360 The show wont be the same without you!
08:03:58 PMChrista haha, do I stay? or do I go.......hmmmm?
08:03:58 PMfinalblogger good night guys
08:04:05 PMGregInTexas stay!
08:04:08 PMgpop7 stay
08:04:11 PMCodarz360 You stay Ill pay your wages ;)
08:04:17 PMjonathon Thanks really enjoyed the Web Dev series!

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
BettleBug
Christa
Codarz360
Dosbomber
DrawBot_7762
Gadwil
GoodGuy
GregInTexas
Guest_1817
Hillary
Ledzep_
Raffer
RexDameon
RobbieF
Yazid1965
agamotto
ajamison5579
alphie
as759
chrisreich
davidmallette
dman810
finalblogger
gpop7
ignacio82
jonathon
mmdmurphy1
pyrosrock
raptor222
tordeu
u-al
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