06:59:50 PM | dman810 | here we go~~
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06:59:51 PM | dman810 | !!
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06:59:52 PM | GregInTexas | Plants vs Zombies came out for android
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07:00:05 PM | Christa | Is anyone joining us today who has never joined us live?
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07:00:08 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Sound should be there now.
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07:00:12 PM | Christa | Any new bodies in here tonight?
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07:00:31 PM | finalblogger | whts the catch christa:)
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07:00:34 PM | GregInTexas | I have some zombies on my phone that are watching
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07:00:39 PM | GoodGuy | I wish. My body is old :-(
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07:01:40 PM | davidmallette | 28 in Mtl today nice
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07:01:54 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | aww... I thought he would say " Retire " after Steve Jobs.
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07:01:55 PM | agamotto | I am just happy to be back from visiting the family.... once again, I have learned to appreciate living 150mi away.
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07:02:01 PM | JVSCC | Howdy
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07:02:07 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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07:02:33 PM | GregInTexas | gaak ... somehow I managed to get two show windows up ... hard to understand two streams at once
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07:02:40 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Nice of you to join us Christa.
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07:02:48 PM | Christa | No? no new viewers in the chat room tonight?
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07:02:51 PM | finalblogger | looking great
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07:02:55 PM | dman810 | I cant get any show to come up?
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07:03:11 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- bad stereo effects?
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07:03:13 PM | Dosbomber | Im an old viewer, and getting older by the minute
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07:03:24 PM | GregInTexas | one of them was delayed from the other
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07:03:49 PM | GregInTexas | shoot ... I took my pictures but forgot to send them in
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07:04:10 PM | Dosbomber | Does he use the iPad as a desktop extention?
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07:04:21 PM | Dosbomber | ...extension.
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07:04:25 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I got one, but got too busy to send it in. Graduation is next week, so everything is hectic with school now.
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07:05:36 PM | GoodGuy | Giada N20 is a small PC Robbie
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07:05:43 PM | dman810 | BRB in the chat got video to work, waiting on commercial
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07:05:58 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Happy to be done with it, I am sure!
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07:05:59 PM | GoodGuy | They reviewed it a couple months ago in Linux Journal mag
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07:06:22 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, I hope. I may not graduate depending on my final exam grade in Ecology class. Other than that I should be good.
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07:06:28 PM | gsiegel | that was a cool review in linux journal
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07:06:45 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- How could you have trouble with that?
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07:06:51 PM | JVSCC | and the day I missed last show u give away a Pogo Waaaaa
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07:07:00 PM | GoodGuy | Newegg had another Giada mini-pc on sale a week or so ago
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07:07:15 PM | dman810 | Ok I am back!
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07:07:19 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, I sort-of didnt do most of my work all year, and dont really know exactly what will be on the exam or how the questions will be. So I am basically in a bad place.
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07:07:23 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF Christa Do you have a preferred filesytem and if so, why?
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07:07:23 PM | GoodGuy | wb dman810
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07:07:33 PM | dman810 | GoodGuy - Thanks
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07:07:44 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Now why would you set yourself up like that?
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07:08:33 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, Because it is what is really going on. I am not covering it up. I am hoping for a B on the exam, But only NEED a D. So I should be fine with a roughly 60 question test. Simply unsure.
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07:08:50 PM | agamotto | multiple hard drives, several threads running concurrently....
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07:09:29 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Fair enough. I would just think that it would be a fairly easy class to keep up with, no?
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07:09:45 PM | GoodGuy | Not all of us poor folk have 12 gb of memory..... hence Tiny Core Linux and other small distros
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07:09:54 PM | GoodGuy | Linux is for everyone
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07:10:12 PM | GoodGuy | Puppy Linux family also
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07:10:13 PM | GregInTexas | I page with 4 gig of ram, not much, but some
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07:10:20 PM | dman810 | I Love what linux can do for my old machines!
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07:10:24 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- You forget how many people suffer from keep-up -itis
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07:11:00 PM | GoodGuy | But others enjoy repurposing old hardware for NAS boxes, firewalls etc
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07:11:00 PM | agamotto | My old Thinkpad does wonders, despite being single-core and nearly six years old.
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07:11:03 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF so how much ram does that system have?
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07:11:12 PM | gsiegel | keep-u-itis = the plague.. haha
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07:11:17 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, Yes. But I am simply unsure of certain areas. With that I dont know what percentage of the test those areas make up for. So I need to study a bit in those things and I should be good. My teacher says it is mostly comprehension of the ideas, so I should do amazing on it.
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07:11:43 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Ah, so more a case of jitters than anything else
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07:11:44 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I have 8 GB RAM in my system and typically have 4GB Swap.
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07:12:00 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, yes, mainly since it is the biggest thing right now that decides if I graduate or not.
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07:12:03 PM | JVSCC | RobbiF-Christa, Long time ago u showed how to use Synaptic package manager, to add effects to windows, ie windows would act like it burst into flames when you open and close etc.. can we still do this in new OS?
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07:12:11 PM | GoodGuy | Wasnt the old recommendayion 2x your real memory size?
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07:12:15 PM | agamotto | This conversation reminds me of the Doctor and his timey-wimey speech
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07:12:33 PM | finalblogger | ok Christa
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07:12:33 PM | GoodGuy | You want Compiz JVSCC
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07:12:40 PM | finalblogger | when can i ask question
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07:12:41 PM | Raffer | in the old days it was i think
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07:12:43 PM | finalblogger | ?
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07:12:44 PM | njsf | GoodGuy: yes. that kinda started dying down once PAE and 64 bit became common
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07:12:45 PM | Battletank | swappyness must be a canadian english word
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07:12:47 PM | dman810 | the only thing I do not like about linux is its printer support
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07:12:47 PM | chrisreich | GoodGuy that was for old systems w/o GUI, i.e. servers, not desktops.
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07:12:58 PM | dman810 | but I know that is not linux fault
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07:13:04 PM | GoodGuy | It is having some issues in Ubuntu 11.04 and its offshoots
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07:13:08 PM | JVSCC | yes ISO would be great!
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07:13:11 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- The biggest thing standing in the way of my HS graduation was politics... some thought that it would slow me down somehow...
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07:13:25 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- yes, 2x physical ram
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07:13:27 PM | JVSCC | Thanks GoodGuy
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07:13:40 PM | agamotto | finalblogger- Any time
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07:13:43 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | JVSCC, Certain things yes. But it looks as if you will need to downgrade in order to get most of it working as it used to.
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07:14:05 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I am unsure of the Compiz/Unity issue as I am dumping Ubuntu completely due to the Unity switch.
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07:14:10 PM | GoodGuy | The Desktop cube is having problems JVSCC
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07:14:32 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Linux Mint?
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07:14:38 PM | JVSCC | I mainly like the windows flaming and wobble effect...
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07:14:46 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I think Mint should work just fine since they arent using Unity.
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07:14:58 PM | GoodGuy | There is a podcast by a guy who occasionally uses language not suitable for some company, but he covers Compiz
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07:15:14 PM | GregInTexas | I think there is an article on OMGubuntu about getting compviz cube working under unity
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07:15:52 PM | GoodGuy | If you are still interested, check out gotbletu or close to that in Miro
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07:15:56 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | JVSCC, I cant help in that area due to my lack of experience with it. But I dont think they will work with the Unity UI. I think Downgrading would be worth a shot, but I am not responsible for any breakage.
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07:16:24 PM | GoodGuy | I have his feed in Miro, but its on my WinXP Box (blue screen producer)
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07:16:43 PM | finalblogger | hai Christa and Robbie
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07:16:46 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF i want a 1PB DVR
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07:16:47 PM | finalblogger | tell me
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07:16:47 PM | agamotto | JVSCC- I am sticking with 10.04 for many of the reasons you mention
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07:16:56 PM | agamotto | ewwwwwwww
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07:17:08 PM | agamotto | Why not AmigaDOS?
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07:17:09 PM | agamotto | heheheheehehe
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07:17:11 PM | finalblogger | is there anyother tech show that i can watch?
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07:17:14 PM | finalblogger | for free
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07:17:17 PM | GoodGuy | btrfs in the future :-)
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07:17:18 PM | finalblogger | live
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07:17:26 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- 1PB?????
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07:17:26 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | RobbieF, Or do you want " WinFS " for Windows?
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07:17:27 PM | GoodGuy | Tons finalblogger
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07:17:33 PM | Dosbomber | I work with a guy who swears Amiga was the best computer ever created
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07:17:34 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | * Joke from upcoming Windows 8 *
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07:17:38 PM | chrisreich | good answer RobbieF. Thank you.
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07:17:54 PM | GoodGuy | Download Miro and look for Linux feeds
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07:17:54 PM | agamotto | finalblogger- yes, many are available through Miro, and revision3 among other sources
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07:18:20 PM | Dosbomber | ^^^^ What he said
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07:18:31 PM | chrisreich | RIKE
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07:18:41 PM | ajamison5579 | PB = Peta Byte 1000 TB
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07:18:42 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Why would you have data loss with ext4 and UPS supplies?
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07:18:47 PM | GoodGuy | RIKE sounds German
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07:19:07 PM | chrisreich | rhymes w/ LIKE
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07:19:11 PM | JVSCC | Compiz is what i ment to say,,,yes
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07:19:13 PM | Battletank | I would assume reich as in the german reichstag
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07:19:23 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- I wont say that, but the operating system was logical...
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07:19:25 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF rhymes w/ LIKE
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07:19:51 PM | JVSCC | will it work with unity?
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07:19:57 PM | agamotto | I love my beaming windows...
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07:20:33 PM | JVSCC | Great oh well...
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07:20:49 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | JVSCC, I wouldnt recommend Unity as a mian system until at least 11.10 when it becomes a little mature.
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07:21:00 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto did you see when i explained what a PB is
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07:21:05 PM | JVSCC | Thanks!
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07:21:07 PM | agamotto | JVSCC- Or unless you have a touch-screen...
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07:21:09 PM | finalblogger | what kind of firewalls i can install in Ubuntu
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07:21:11 PM | finalblogger | ?
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07:21:12 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- yes
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07:21:15 PM | davidmallette | I had to re install 3x due to the Compiz issue. Will not use it now.
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07:21:17 PM | GregInTexas | Im thinking Ill stick with pure gnome
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07:21:22 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Terminal?
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07:21:34 PM | GoodGuy | SMC routers have a real serial port
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07:21:38 PM | davidmallette | Sticking to Gnome too.
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07:21:53 PM | ajamison5579 | is he trying to connect a commercial router
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07:21:57 PM | jonathon | USB to serial adapter?
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07:22:00 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF he wants to emulate a dumb terminal
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07:22:04 PM | GregInTexas | Ive done that
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07:22:11 PM | GoodGuy | I still have a couple.... SMC7004BR
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07:22:17 PM | GregInTexas | I bought a little hardware adaptor
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07:22:20 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | perhaps, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-18.html#term_as_console ????
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07:22:34 PM | agamotto | I assume it would be something found at Provantage.com, or cyberguys.com.... those folks do all manner of specialty adapters like that
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07:22:38 PM | JVSCC | LOL
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07:22:46 PM | finalblogger | firewall suggestions for ubuntu
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07:22:48 PM | gsiegel | I have my ii.04 system running with classic interface , after this round of certifications done going back to 10.10
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07:22:49 PM | finalblogger | ?
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07:22:55 PM | GoodGuy | I used to set it up to fallback to Dialup if the cable modem was down... our daughter was doing online college classes
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07:23:03 PM | ajamison5579 | most motherboards come with a Com node but no port hooked to it my Motherboard forexample has a spot for one if I could find a port i merely need hook it up to that node
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07:23:05 PM | gsiegel | Unity makes me sad.. ha ha
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07:23:08 PM | agamotto | finalblogger- doesnt really need one
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07:23:09 PM | GregInTexas | I got mine from newegg, but it was a couple years ago
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07:23:34 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | This is the upper level to that post, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-10.html ... Might have more info.
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07:23:34 PM | Guest43020 | If he wants a cable they do make USB to serial convertors. Check the catalogs.
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07:23:44 PM | ajamison5579 | Unity makes me angry they do not want to make me angry
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07:23:50 PM | GoodGuy | Procomm Plus software used to do dumb terminal emulation
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07:24:04 PM | gsiegel | ha ha ajamison
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07:24:27 PM | finalblogger | check UK plzz
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07:24:36 PM | agamotto | Who is that way up north?
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07:24:36 PM | Scorpio55 | finalblogger firewall is built in its called ufw for the gui install gufw
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07:24:36 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF your candian its ok we probably can not pronounce half the provinces in Canada
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07:24:49 PM | finalblogger | ohh ok thats nice
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07:24:54 PM | agamotto | Oooo, Nova Scotia
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07:24:57 PM | finalblogger | thanks Scorpio
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07:25:01 PM | GoodGuy | I recall Bryan Lunduke of the Linux Action Show uses Telnet to get into an old BBS system he runs because he can .. I guess lol
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07:25:17 PM | davidmallette | Hola a todos en Cuba.
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07:25:25 PM | finalblogger | soo can i change settings
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07:25:25 PM | Dosbomber | Your influence is spreading, Robbie
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07:25:26 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | This seems to have some info, might be outdated though. http://linux.about.com/od/ttl_howto/a/hwtttl10t06.htm
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07:25:27 PM | finalblogger | ?
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07:25:33 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | ^^ For terminal emulators in Linux.
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07:25:45 PM | agamotto | I wonder if that is kevoh....
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07:26:03 PM | Dosbomber | Wow, look at GB
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07:26:04 PM | ajamison5579 | wow Robbie is taking over Europe
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07:26:10 PM | finalblogger | wow
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07:26:10 PM | agamotto | Wow, lot of people staying up late in in Europe
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07:26:10 PM | GoodGuy | He gave the name of some telnet software to try out his BBS.... I tried it, but Im on a Linux system now
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07:26:13 PM | finalblogger | london
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07:26:17 PM | finalblogger | i m in london
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07:26:19 PM | finalblogger | :)
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07:26:21 PM | dman810 | who is out in the Atlantic off Africa?
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07:26:23 PM | gsiegel | Robbie for president!
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07:26:25 PM | tordeu | YAY. Germany
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07:26:40 PM | gsiegel | Prost!
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07:26:49 PM | Raffer | i think he clicked me there :))
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07:26:49 PM | GregInTexas | thats a lot of folks
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07:27:00 PM | tordeu | lol. Thanks, gsiegel
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07:27:08 PM | agamotto | dman810- Someone vacationing in the Seychelles?
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07:27:20 PM | dman810 | agamotto - sweet
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07:27:30 PM | GoodGuy | William and Kate were agamotto
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07:27:31 PM | Dosbomber | I think he clicked on me at the beginning... I felt it.. it hurt a bit.
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07:27:36 PM | ajamison5579 | I want to see the viewer sitting on the northpole watching this
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07:27:52 PM | GoodGuy | I thought thats where they wen on the honeymoon
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07:27:59 PM | agamotto | I just wouldnt want one of those giant orange flags in my town!
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07:28:24 PM | dman810 | Robbie does not even mention US any more there are so many of us!
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07:28:26 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, no one on Okinawa, apparently
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07:28:27 PM | ajamison5579 | GDay mate sorry that is my bad Australian impression
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07:28:35 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | dman810, I think that is the point.
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07:28:48 PM | tordeu | I bet there are people on the ISS and they are disappointed, because they cant find themselves on the map.
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07:28:52 PM | dman810 | Well I guess I should move!
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07:28:54 PM | BattleTank | Im getting a 500 error on http://www.category5.tv/ currently. must be overloaded
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07:28:56 PM | GregInTexas | very "cool" ... iceland
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07:29:09 PM | GregInTexas | it was 112 degrees in texas a couple days ago
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07:29:21 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Battletank, I get no 500 error.
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07:29:23 PM | gsiegel | and now to the weather.. ha ha
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07:29:25 PM | GoodGuy | I thought Greenland was icy and Iceland had a lot of green
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07:29:31 PM | BattleTank | odd Amazing-Gadwil
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07:29:33 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy- correct
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07:29:38 PM | Dosbomber | 112?! I know where Im *NOT* moving to...
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07:29:43 PM | gsiegel | 83 degrees here in NJ
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07:29:58 PM | GregInTexas | pretty hot for May ...
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07:29:59 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | BattleTank, I am a frequent visitor. the router and server may make room for me at any time.
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07:29:59 PM | finalblogger | hi hillary
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07:30:00 PM | agamotto | 112 is fine, as long as the humidity is below 40%
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07:30:11 PM | agamotto | 80 and 70% is torture
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07:30:13 PM | GregInTexas | I know how frying bacon feels
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07:30:15 PM | gsiegel | LOL!!!
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07:30:17 PM | GoodGuy | A friend I chat with flies into Norway and they stop in Iceland on some trips
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07:30:17 PM | ajamison5579 | Sky.Net is near
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07:30:24 PM | ajamison5579 | run for your lives
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07:30:25 PM | BattleTank | hmmm Amazing-Gadwil
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07:30:33 PM | gsiegel | i guess skype now needs SP3
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07:30:58 PM | agamotto | Wow, I go on vacation for a few days, and the world unravels....
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07:30:59 PM | GregInTexas | hmmm ... I was just on skype
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07:31:00 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | gsiegel, Or Unity.
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07:31:06 PM | GoodGuy | Wonder how fast Skype for Linux will get enhancements
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07:31:11 PM | Dosbomber | Yep, its all your fault, agamotto
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07:31:28 PM | gsiegel | true that Gadwil
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07:31:41 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | GoodGuy, take the work on it from the past 4 years, and multiply that by 8 for the release to Skype 5 for Linux.
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07:31:50 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | 3.0! YAY!
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07:32:04 PM | GregInTexas | wow
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07:32:28 PM | agamotto | I would be happy if 50% of the people in my life would settle on ONE method to IM/videochat
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07:32:59 PM | chrisreich | I had to leave for the past 5-6 minutes. Hope I didnt miss much.
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07:33:02 PM | GoodGuy | What is VSS?
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07:33:34 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, yet another reason to keep my stupidphone
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07:33:40 PM | gsiegel | Grr - not happy I gave money to MS for the my HTC.
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07:33:46 PM | finalblogger | wht happened?
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07:33:56 PM | njsf | GoodGuy: hope you do not mean in the source control space... It used to mean Visual Source Safe, or Visual Screw Source
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07:33:57 PM | agamotto | Yet another M$ tax....
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07:34:05 PM | ajamison5579 | I will not be buying HTC
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07:34:18 PM | Yazid1965 | Cool Beans!!!!!!! :-D
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07:34:19 PM | GregInTexas | M$ has outlived its usefullness
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07:34:22 PM | ajamison5579 | because i do not need nor want a cell phone
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07:34:25 PM | gsiegel | Yeah, forget increasing taxes -- just tell MS to stop double dipping
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07:34:33 PM | GoodGuy | I dont mind giving money to anyone if I like the product.... I try not to be anti anything
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07:34:37 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Problem is that HTC makes nearly 40% of other peoples models.
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07:34:44 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief it is not called Skype now it is Sky.net
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07:34:52 PM | GregInTexas | Im having a lot of fun with my htc ... would hate to give it up
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07:34:52 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Christa, If Hillary will be on that system for the rest of the show, switch Nicks.
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07:35:00 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- nah, that is reserved for google
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07:35:21 PM | GregInTexas | look great!
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07:35:48 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Or she will leave.... Why cant we have all 3 co-hosts at once?
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07:35:54 PM | agamotto | Pogoplug, Planet Calypso, and the letter r. Guest apperance by the number 5!
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07:36:08 PM | gsiegel | there should a show of just calypso stuff. - might gain more interest in it
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07:36:12 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- lack of camera staff?
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07:36:26 PM | Dosbomber | 3 co-hosts? Whos the third?
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07:36:42 PM | GoodGuy | Does Robbies mic drive anyone else nuts... I thought it was a laser dot on his face until figuring out it was a mic
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07:36:52 PM | njsf | GoodGuy: if it is on the network realm, then it is a virtual service switch, basically a firewall + load balancer with fancy config options
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07:36:54 PM | Yazid1965 | lol
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07:36:54 PM | tordeu | I came late and I was afraid Christa was not there tonight....
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07:36:59 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, No idea.
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07:37:13 PM | chrisreich | cyborg!
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07:37:16 PM | GregInTexas | I thought Robbie had a growth ... then I figured out it was a mic
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07:37:20 PM | GoodGuy | Thanks njsf
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07:37:20 PM | dman810 | RobbieF - How do I find other views in Planet Calypso?
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07:37:20 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | It does give nice audio quality though.
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07:37:30 PM | GregInTexas | yea, it sounds great
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07:37:39 PM | dman810 | RobbieF - I mean other Viewers
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07:37:42 PM | Dosbomber | The headset sounds good, but that tumor on the side of your mouth is distracting...
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07:37:42 PM | tordeu | I cant concentrate on the microphones as long as Christa is in the frame.
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07:37:56 PM | GoodGuy | Audio quality is great. I didnt realize it was a mic at first.. It looked like a moving laser dot
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07:38:02 PM | chrisreich | where is Christas mic?
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07:38:07 PM | njsf | Rob.Oh :)
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07:38:11 PM | gsiegel | Category 5 goes Bling
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07:38:24 PM | dman810 | I think Robbies chest hair is causing feedback!
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07:38:34 PM | GregInTexas | make it one of those alternate reality queues
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07:38:40 PM | JVSCC | Works great
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07:38:41 PM | tordeu | lol, dman810
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07:39:06 PM | agamotto | it is a shame that you cant do the show with some bluetooth headsets
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07:39:08 PM | njsf | not "brand new", just returning after about 1yr absence :)
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07:39:08 PM | GregInTexas | you can get lapel mics that sound quite good as well
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07:39:22 PM | Guest43020 | Audio from both sounds good.
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07:39:37 PM | GregInTexas | yea, Christa sounds great also
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07:39:48 PM | GoodGuy | Robbie - Christa ... Is there any way to make a Ustream windows without the web page borders
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07:39:56 PM | Dosbomber | No interference from neighbors wireless phones.... thats a good thing.
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07:40:03 PM | agamotto | Just dont forget to put a fuzzy on the mics
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07:40:49 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Iget my trackballs from cyberguys.com... yiou can even get lefty models.
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07:40:54 PM | gsiegel | Logitech wave keyboard is great
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07:40:55 PM | njsf | I prefer the Trackman with the ball on the left side (ie thumb will move)
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07:41:00 PM | Yazid1965 | their trackballs last forever. I own two of them.
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07:41:10 PM | chrisreich | I use a WACOM tablet RobbieF Christa. I have *severe* carpal tunnel syndrome that has literally disabled me.
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07:41:26 PM | Dosbomber | Ouch Chris
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07:41:37 PM | agamotto | I have been using trackballs and ergo keyboards for over 10 years
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07:41:54 PM | njsf | for a small keyboard I _love_ the lenovo thinkpad keyboard with the trackpoint (ie the little dot between GHB)
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07:41:57 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I prefer touch-screen devices.
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07:42:41 PM | dman810 | RobbieF - What is a good UPS to use?
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07:42:43 PM | agamotto | I learned proper posture from piano practice
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07:42:48 PM | njsf | This keyboard http://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-USB-Keyboard-with-TrackPoint/dp/B002ONCC6G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1306885346&sr=8-1
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07:42:52 PM | Dosbomber | After 30 years of banging on keyboards and all the other little detailed crafty things I do (electronics), I believe its some sort of miracle Ive managed to avoid Carpal Tunnel or Repetitive Stress type problems.
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07:43:29 PM | GregInTexas | I use laptops ... have for almost 20 years ... do more damage to my wrist playing guitar than typing
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07:43:31 PM | GoodGuy | Old typewritters to slow them down
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07:43:35 PM | agamotto | Another Dvorak user!!!!!
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07:43:45 PM | GoodGuy | wb JVSCC
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07:44:01 PM | GregInTexas | how long does it take to switch to dvorak?
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07:44:11 PM | Dosbomber | Depends on the user
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07:44:12 PM | gsiegel | Logitech Wave Wireless Keyboard+Mouse http://uncategorized.sendori.com/search?q=www.logiterch.com&s=pEl7RJ493qdLT8Pq
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07:44:17 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- You probably dont slouch, etc....
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07:44:32 PM | GoodGuy | IIRC Dvorak was NOT named after John C Dvorak
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07:44:36 PM | njsf | If you use emacs, a foot pedal is also neat: http://www.xkeys.com/xkeys/xkfoot.php
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07:44:42 PM | Dosbomber | lol... no it wasnt
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07:44:44 PM | agamotto | I can do about 70wpm reliably with Dvorak
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07:45:15 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- About three weeks to be comfortable, if you are a touch-typist
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07:45:31 PM | GregInTexas | wow, thats not too bad
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07:45:41 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF Christa I question the wisdom of re-learning a new keyboard layout - time to re-learn will cause stress in itself. Ive been touch typing QWERTY far too long to re-learn now. Im certainly older than you.
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07:45:55 PM | agamotto | Technically, it is pronounces Devorjak
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07:45:57 PM | GregInTexas | my wife started texting with Message Ease on her phone ... shes up to 40 wpm on a touch
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07:46:24 PM | GoodGuy | Yes everything but the actual video
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07:46:31 PM | finalblogger | i am going to buy a desktop
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07:46:42 PM | finalblogger | which one should i go for?
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07:46:48 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- stress? I seriously doubt that... muscle-memory confusion perhaps.....
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07:46:51 PM | GoodGuy | I am seeing an entire Firefox screen
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07:47:13 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | Interesting Dvorak/Qwerty keyboard. http://amzn.to/k4jlZS
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07:47:15 PM | ajamison5579 | why would you want to use dvorak instead of qwerty
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07:47:17 PM | JVSCC | I do not like the commercials on justin tv...
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07:47:18 PM | finalblogger | dell or sony or hp
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07:47:47 PM | GoodGuy | I see a Firefox page with the video in the middle
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07:47:59 PM | chrisreich | agamotto - the stress of over-use; the time needed to re-learn a new layout vs. the amount of work done. Since I can no longer earn a living w/ my hands.
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07:48:10 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- Actually, that keyboard would be an ergonomic nightmare
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07:48:13 PM | finalblogger | wht happened?
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07:48:25 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | agamotto, Ergonomics is not an issue for me personally.
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07:48:45 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF in a past life I used one of those MS ergonomic keyboards. I can recommend it.
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07:48:54 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- less movement from the home row, less flexion of wrists, etc... most people who switch gain 30% in typing rate
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07:49:03 PM | Dosbomber | My world is QWERTY. Unless every computer I deal with on a daily basis goes DVORAK, I have no purpose in learning a new keyboard layout.
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07:49:20 PM | agamotto | Amazing-Gadwil- it may be once you get into your 30s and 40s
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07:49:32 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | RobbieF, That is a Comfort Curve, I can tell from the shape.
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07:49:32 PM | GregInTexas | thats been my issue in the past, Dosbomer
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07:50:12 PM | agamotto | I still have and use my original M$ Natural on my main box
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07:50:14 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF as they say "its all in the wrist". The straighter you can keep your wrist, the better.
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07:50:27 PM | gsiegel | I wonder if anyone will finally make laptop built in keyboards more ergo
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07:50:35 PM | agamotto | That thing is nearly 13 years old, and still going
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07:50:42 PM | chrisreich | I wish gsiegel
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07:50:58 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I gtg, be back soon hopefully.
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07:52:33 PM | JVSCC | Having fun...
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07:52:54 PM | JVSCC | LOL
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07:53:01 PM | gsiegel | Regarding swap - I just loaded up my 3 VMs on my Ubuntu box and none of the 8GB of swap space is being touched
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07:53:05 PM | JVSCC | Are you two brother and sister lol
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07:53:18 PM | agamotto | I know that back when I worked in an office, my productivity was well above others, simply because I used form letters and mail-merge. It cut down on trips to the copier!
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07:53:55 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF I see two beverage glasses near your equipment. That concerns me. I use a Nalgene bottle which has a screw top. I screw it shut after every "glug". Never killed equipment yet.
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07:54:01 PM | agamotto | JVSCC- they act like it sometimes, dont they?
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07:54:12 PM | JVSCC | yes lol
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07:54:27 PM | JVSCC | LOL
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07:54:31 PM | GregInTexas | lol ... Ive killed a lot of keyboards over the years ...
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07:54:31 PM | Yazid1965 | lol
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07:54:38 PM | finalblogger | which desktop system you suggest me to buy
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07:54:40 PM | finalblogger | ?
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07:55:02 PM | dman810 | RobbieF - what kind of UPS do you have?
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07:55:05 PM | finalblogger | no not mac
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07:55:13 PM | finalblogger | dell or sony
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07:55:14 PM | JVSCC | RobbieF do you have a meter or something showing progress of donations?
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07:55:14 PM | agamotto | the main advantage of Dvorak is that your left home row is aeiou and the right is htns, the most frequently used letters in most Western alphabets
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07:55:46 PM | Dosbomber | agamotto: E, T, A, O, I, N... in that order.
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07:55:55 PM | chrisreich | Macs are not built w/ commodity hardware. You cant compare their cost/value directly. TCOS favors Macs.
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07:56:07 PM | GregInTexas | get a flow-through
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07:56:21 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- eh, what language?
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07:56:28 PM | Dosbomber | English. :P
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07:56:30 PM | BattleTank | what caused the surge
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07:56:40 PM | Guest43020 | Ive been using APC UPSs for years. I
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07:56:45 PM | Guest43020 | sorry
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07:56:57 PM | agamotto | Dosbomber- interesting, all of mine in English have been aeiou htns
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07:57:04 PM | jonathon | finalblogger Why not build your own desktop?
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07:57:08 PM | Guest43020 | Ive had very good luck with them. I highly recommend them.
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07:57:10 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF I agree w/ your analysis
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07:57:15 PM | dman810 | Does insurance cover any of that?
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07:57:16 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | gsiegel, How much RAM do you have? How much is dedicated TOTAL to the VMs? and how much is currently being used? It wont touch SWAP unless needed, and the VMs only use as much RAM as needed.
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07:57:23 PM | finalblogger | hmm
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07:57:27 PM | agamotto | Guest43020- I agree bullet-proof
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07:57:28 PM | finalblogger | interesting
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07:57:31 PM | Dosbomber | My first and only APC UPS caught fire as soon as I plugged it in
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07:57:40 PM | BattleTank | all ups do is shutdown machine gracefully
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07:58:00 PM | GregInTexas | Im not all that happy with APCs as of the last few years
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07:58:09 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- You spoke earlier about problems with ext4 and UPSs? What are the issues?
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07:58:33 PM | GregInTexas | I did that overclocking once
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07:58:35 PM | jonathon | Eaton offers a warranty on the batteries (3 years I think)
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07:58:53 PM | GregInTexas | created a four inch arc ... pretty wild
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07:59:13 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | as far as I know the differences are only in the way 4 journals vs 3.
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07:59:25 PM | agamotto | Ok, just hadnt heard anything about it
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07:59:26 PM | gsiegel | 8 GB, and most of the VMs have 1 GB
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07:59:32 PM | njsf | also the use of B-Trees
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07:59:37 PM | njsf | a la reiserfs
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07:59:46 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | gsiegel, That is why SWAP isnt being touched. Your not using enough RAM.
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08:00:09 PM | chrisreich | I havent studied the matter, but I would have thought ext4 to be an improvement in all areas, or at least not worse.
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08:00:16 PM | agamotto | go figure
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08:00:24 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | I want BTRFS to be developed quicker.
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08:00:31 PM | gsiegel | This is why I chose Ubuntu as my host :) machine has been rock solid with all VMs running at one time
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08:00:36 PM | chrisreich | fun show RobbieF. Many thanks.
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08:00:37 PM | BattleTank | next show..file systems in details perhaps?
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08:00:49 PM | chrisreich | good idea BattleTank
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08:00:53 PM | GregInTexas | that would be an interesting show, actually
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08:01:00 PM | Yazid1965 | Good Night Gang
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08:01:06 PM | njsf | gn all
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08:01:07 PM | gpop7 | goodnight everyone
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08:01:07 PM | JVSCC | Chow for now, Im busy cooking Orange Chicken for dinner...
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08:01:11 PM | Amazing-Gadwil | A good 5 star episode RobbieF.
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08:01:13 PM | chrisreich | yum
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08:01:14 PM | gsiegel | Rock out...
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08:01:18 PM | gsiegel | time to study
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08:01:23 PM | GregInTexas | good show yall
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08:01:30 PM | finalblogger | christa
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08:01:33 PM | finalblogger | great
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08:01:36 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone!
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08:01:38 PM | Christa | I....finalblogger
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08:01:39 PM | finalblogger | robbie good
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08:01:40 PM | Dosbomber | Cool beans!! hahahahahahahahahahaha
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08:01:43 PM | finalblogger | :)
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08:01:49 PM | agamotto | I sure know that I would love for future *NIXes to move to a more friendly organization, ala AmigaDOS
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08:01:53 PM | GregInTexas | c o o k i e s
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08:02:01 PM | finalblogger | no gift:(
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08:02:31 PM | Christa | haha, what kind of gift? I thought the awesomness of the show was a great gift
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08:02:57 PM | finalblogger | hmm well i like the show and the host
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08:02:59 PM | agamotto | I started playing with Dvorak back when I thought i was developing carpal tunnel.... it took another two doctors to confirm it is just arthritis
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08:03:00 PM | finalblogger | lol
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08:03:08 PM | finalblogger | listen is there anyother show like yours
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08:03:12 PM | finalblogger | live
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08:03:17 PM | finalblogger | i like tech shows
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08:03:21 PM | dman810 | Have a great Evening/Day/Moment!
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08:03:32 PM | agamotto | The gift budget has been sharply curtailed until the server farm is replaced:)
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08:03:35 PM | Christa | I can honestly say I have no idea....I only have eyes for Category5
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08:03:43 PM | finalblogger | lool
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08:03:44 PM | Christa | haha, that rhymes kinda
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08:03:50 PM | finalblogger | exactly
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08:03:54 PM | finalblogger | lets make a song
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08:04:28 PM | finalblogger | I only have eyes for Category5
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08:04:39 PM | Christa | I think its the next music video for sure!
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