Chat Logs for Episode 195 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 72 Posts:GregInTexas
With 70 Posts:agamotto
With 47 Posts:finalblogger
With 45 Posts:mmdmurphy
With 38 Posts:Dosbomber


Chat Logs:

06:59:31 PMChrista hey finalblogger and Jot....how are you guys tonight?
06:59:33 PMChrista Swell I hope
06:59:38 PMfinalblogger great
06:59:41 PMfinalblogger thx
06:59:47 PMCodarz360 Hello
07:00:08 PMmmdmurphy I am getting a "cannot find video stream" on the main feed...???
07:00:15 PM_Jot_ hey Christa, doing okay, forgot it was tuesday :)
07:00:25 PMChrista Yay! Show time
07:00:33 PMGregInTexas its working!
07:00:37 PMChrista Arent you happy you didnt completely forget?
07:00:42 PMalket cool intro
07:00:57 PMfinalblogger christa you look different
07:01:00 PMfinalblogger ?
07:01:01 PMdman810 Nice to hear the mics are on tonight!!
07:01:06 PMChrista smarter I hope
07:01:10 PMfinalblogger r u christa?
07:01:15 PMagamotto Hallo
07:01:17 PM_Jot_ you always smarty pants Christa\\
07:01:33 PMGregInTexas yay ... alternatives
07:01:33 PMfinalblogger hai they r making us fool
07:01:33 PMChrista always, I get smarter every Tuesday
07:01:34 PMajamison5579 RobbieF you might try a CDN to off load the images for the cat5 site maybe it will reduce load
07:01:39 PMfinalblogger she is not christa
07:01:42 PMfinalblogger :P
07:01:47 PMagamotto GregInTexas- Such as 10.04? heehehehe
07:01:59 PMchrisreich Everyone have their drinks ready for the mispronunciation game?
07:02:05 PMGregInTexas lol @ agamotto ... my solution so far
07:02:05 PMfinalblogger lol
07:02:27 PMagamotto ajamison5579- or just cut down on the images on the website in favor of a light version....
07:02:34 PMmmdmurphy chrisreich - I am still working on the canadian tongue twister.... bosh, bash, bios, a bout, a boat...
07:02:36 PMfinalblogger plzz discuss a bit abt cakephp
07:02:39 PM_Jot_ chrisreich, I cant drink that much in one hour
07:02:39 PMCodarz360 HEY
07:02:42 PMas759 Hi
07:02:51 PMjonathon Hi
07:02:54 PMDosbomber Greetings back at ya
07:02:55 PMDrumstick Well, here I go again....nada. This is getting old and I dont know whats wrong....
07:02:59 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you should ask her, how the rest of last week was
07:03:29 PMagamotto GregInTexas- I have now tried both the regular and the Mythbuntu flavor of 11.04.... too many little things not working well.
07:03:49 PMagamotto RobbieF- Thanks to quick little storms, we have lost power twice this last week.
07:04:07 PMGregInTexas Im going to drop 11.04 on a spare partition Thur ... well see, but Ive been reading the reviews ... not good
07:04:09 PMchrisreich good one Christa!
07:04:14 PM_Jot_ Chrisa, only one, so thats like 50% of all macs hit
07:04:20 PM_Jot_ Christa*
07:04:46 PMajamison5579 I thought transformers were supposed to absorb the large voltage. Unless i heard him wrong he said a 10,000 volt UPS died!? that means you had to have a spike higher then 10k
07:04:50 PMagamotto GregInTexas- Good luck, and sprinkle some holy water on the box
07:04:56 PMGoodGuy Why not try it out in Virtualbox GregInTexas ?
07:05:16 PMfinalblogger thats nice
07:05:17 PMChrista But 50% were safe!
07:05:27 PMfinalblogger yess now u look like her
07:05:28 PMGregInTexas I havent gotten around to it, GoodGuy, and ... I will be blowing away a windows partition, so ... its the principal
07:05:28 PMchrisreich Thats not merely asking for trouble, its getting on your knees and begging for it, eh RobbieF
07:05:29 PMdman8101 um - subway and Cat5. what can be better?
07:05:31 PMfinalblogger lol
07:05:39 PMmmdmurphy Almost as bad, I have relatives that buy external back up drives like candy... I have no idea if they back up to them.
07:05:45 PMGoodGuy Ok makes sense in that case
07:05:48 PMalket Dont you get an alert for storm commnig
07:05:49 PM_Jot_ Christa, I drew a mark over my screen over that big white spot, so that other mac isnt safe anymore either
07:05:50 PMagamotto dman8101- holodeck?
07:05:51 PMGregInTexas lol ... yea
07:05:57 PMDosbomber Christa blends right in to the curtains this week
07:06:04 PMChrista haha, youre so cruel
07:06:06 PMGregInTexas that way I can migrate at my leasure
07:06:19 PMChrista Does that mean that if I close my eyes you guys wont be able to see me?
07:06:20 PMfinalblogger wow
07:06:29 PMlinuxdude531 I have back up of my photo and 2 DVD copies littly paranoid
07:06:31 PMfinalblogger do that christa
07:06:35 PMfinalblogger :)
07:06:36 PM_Jot_ Christa? Christa? Where did she go?
07:06:45 PMGregInTexas haha ... Christa ... she b gone ...
07:06:46 PMdman8101 agamotto - was logged into chat room, twice
07:06:48 PMmmdmurphy Chirsta, if you flip your hair over your face, we wont see you...
07:06:48 PMagamotto alket- yes, we get weather alerts, but many parts of the power grid in N. America is delicate due to decades of put-off maintenance.
07:06:54 PM_Jot_ Chrsita, does that mean if I dont look at you, you dont exist?
07:07:12 PMScorpio55 Unity works quite well on DELL tablet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn3m09zkcbo
07:07:23 PMmmdmurphy Anyone else getting intermittant signal?
07:07:35 PMGoodGuy fine here mmdmurphy
07:07:35 PMGregInTexas my signal is perfect
07:07:37 PMfinalblogger ill send u next time
07:07:39 PMfinalblogger ;P
07:07:40 PMagamotto Scorpio55- really? coolies, at least it works somewhere!
07:07:41 PMchrisreich The whole scene is pracically monochromatic. Except for the glare from RobbieFs head
07:07:42 PMChrista haha, like if a tree falls in a forest?
07:07:55 PMajamison5579 _jot_ according to Quantum physics that is exactly what it means, well more they do not exist until someone is looking at them when no one is looking they do not exist
07:07:57 PMfinalblogger cool guy
07:08:25 PMmmdmurphy GoodGuy, I am getting like 25 seconds of good signal, then 10 seconds of nothing.
07:08:35 PMalket Where is Eric ?
07:08:59 PMagamotto hrm... I think I finally found a mustard that is too spicy for me...
07:08:59 PMGoodGuy Maybe try closing the browser and restart it
07:09:02 PM_Jot_ not enough cameras for Eric
07:09:10 PMScorpio55 agamoto Unity works fine all my hardware, not so configurable as previous versions but it does what it says oncan
07:09:11 PM_Jot_ so he hasnt come in the last few shows
07:09:20 PMchrisreich mmmmmmmm cookie
07:09:22 PMGregInTexas C o o k i e s ! ! !
07:09:45 PMdman8101 it took out eric?
07:09:57 PMGregInTexas yes ... eric was a figment
07:09:57 PMDrumstick Guess it isnt meant to be for me tonight....enjoy!
07:10:05 PMagamotto No extra cameras/mics/etc...
07:10:07 PMDosbomber Voltage spike went right up the hockey stick
07:10:11 PMGregInTexas and they lost Erik
07:10:11 PMchrisreich so where is Eric?
07:10:27 PMagamotto Enjoying his spring?
07:10:30 PMfinalblogger thats nice but where is he
07:10:30 PMGregInTexas they cannot find him
07:10:33 PMfinalblogger :)
07:10:34 PMajamison5579 RobbieF so the spike did not launch him into the stratosphere
07:10:41 PMchrisreich but we love Christa!
07:10:55 PMGregInTexas yes, we love christa, but get her a surge protector
07:11:06 PMsmittysmit Eric is playing hockey
07:11:10 PM_Jot_ yeah, we dont want Christa to go down also
07:11:11 PMchrisreich thats what she said...
07:11:26 PMfinalblogger RobbieF plz if u got time do discuss a bit abt cakephp
07:11:31 PMajamison5579 Hockey is a Hazard the sticks are made of Graphite which is extremely conductive
07:11:46 PMsmittysmit they just wont admit it
07:12:13 PMagamotto RobbieF- As stupid as it sounds, have you had the electric utility come in and examine your wiring since the blow-out?
07:12:41 PMagamotto I thought the players were the hazard!
07:12:45 PMchrisreich mmmmmmm Drobo...
07:13:01 PMdman8101 mmm Expensive1
07:13:01 PMajamison5579 yes Drobo not to be confused with a Hobo
07:13:02 PMDosbomber I <3 my Drobo
07:13:06 PMsmittysmit No, Eric was the hazard. :)
07:13:19 PMGregInTexas I think Ive played a Drobo ...
07:13:21 PMdman8101 BRB
07:13:22 PMagamotto smittysmit- Only to shiny little discs
07:13:26 PMdman8101 Never Mind
07:13:32 PMGregInTexas isnt that the one that sits in your lap?
07:13:35 PMchrisreich People who scorn the expense of Apple hardware havent looked at Drobos.
07:13:42 PMGadwil-Office As many drives as your HDD controller can handle. I dont think you can have 500 drives on one system.
07:13:52 PMagamotto Drobos are for people who dont want to know anything about how something works.
07:13:54 PM_Jot_ you can always add more controllers
07:14:17 PMDosbomber I already know how things work... thats why I bought a Drobo.
07:14:20 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- The power requirements alone....
07:14:22 PMmmdmurphy Isnt the one that sits in your lap a Dobro?
07:14:40 PMGregInTexas o ... dobro ...
07:14:49 PMajamison5579 Gadwil-office you can if you have a storage array controller for storage networks
07:14:54 PMdman810 Hello GoodGuy
07:14:56 PMagamotto Paso Double? ehehehehe
07:15:01 PMchrisreich glass or metal slide GregInTexas?
07:15:15 PMGregInTexas metal ...
07:15:23 PMGoodGuy hi dman810
07:15:27 PMmmdmurphy External Mike== someone named Micheal who lives in a tent behind your house????
07:15:36 PMagamotto heheh
07:15:40 PMGadwil-Office ajamison, Ok, so how many people can actually afford one of those for their homes? That is most likely a cooperation type solution.
07:15:46 PMDosbomber Must be the hobo mentioned earlier
07:15:57 PMmmdmurphy :)
07:16:04 PMchrisreich yeah theres nothing like the buzz of a brass slide across steel strings, eh GregInTexas?
07:16:26 PMGregInTexas you use the dobro to sing about hobos and record to your drobo
07:16:36 PMajamison5579 I basicaly want to record the audio then replace the audio from the camera
07:16:48 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- it is a matter of priorities... for some a Drobo would be worth more than say, 300 channels of satellite service, or having that 80" tv.
07:16:58 PMGregInTexas just never liked the sound of glass ... of course, all Ive ever tried is broken bottles
07:17:08 PMmmdmurphy We used to live near railroad tracks, and actually gave meals to hobos... havent seen a real one in 20+ years...
07:17:16 PMpyrosrock gese im a bit late :(
07:17:18 PMCodarz360 Do hosts normally allow you to edit the php.ini?
07:17:37 PMchrisreich My son uses glass slide on electric guitars, GregInTexas
07:17:56 PMagamotto mmdmurphy- I occasionally help serve/cook at a local shelter/cafe here. Some very interesting peope
07:18:03 PMChrista Hey pyrosrock...nice to see you tonight
07:18:21 PMmmdmurphy agamotto - I hear you. But no one "hops the trains" anymore.
07:18:26 PMDosbomber Good of you to help those having trouble, agamotto
07:18:29 PMGregInTexas really? I dont play with a slide much, but never used glass for real ... guess I should get one and try it out a while
07:18:32 PMpyrosrock thanks christa have i missed much?
07:18:40 PM{BBI}Nexus{BBI} clapperboard..
07:18:49 PMGregInTexas lol
07:18:49 PMfinalblogger lol
07:18:51 PMagamotto I have never tried anything beyond acoustic guitar
07:19:15 PMCodarz360 Do hosts normally allow you to edit the php.ini?
07:19:15 PMGregInTexas mostly Ive played slide on accoustic
07:19:20 PMChrista just a few questions so far
07:19:36 PMpyrosrock kool
07:19:43 PMagamotto Christa- Codarz360 s question is a good one
07:19:43 PMajamison5579 thanks
07:19:44 PMCodarz360 Christa can you ask robbie this Do hosts normally allow you to edit the php.ini?
07:19:47 PMDosbomber Some people just snap their fingers for an A/V sync... but you cant write scene numbers and stuff on a finger snap
07:19:49 PMdman810 that clicker is not to give a guy a job, it has a function?
07:20:03 PM_Jot_ yep
07:20:05 PMfinalblogger one more time RobbieF plz if u got time do discuss a bit abt cakephp
07:20:12 PMGregInTexas usually hosts allow you to override what is in php.ini
07:20:21 PMagamotto dman810- yes... it can even be used to sync the teleprompter feeder.
07:20:22 PMchrisreich dman810 that clapboard is critical for the editors who are working with multiple cameras.
07:20:25 PMmmdmurphy finalblogger - the cake is a lie
07:20:33 PMfinalblogger noo way
07:20:36 PMfinalblogger y?
07:20:37 PMCodarz360 Its just that I need to change some values in it and I cant re-upload back to the server.
07:20:41 PMDosbomber The cake is fake, the pie is a lie
07:20:45 PMdman810 Learn something new everyday!
07:21:03 PMChrista .....i want cake
07:21:03 PM_Jot_ also dont open doors that have cakes drawn on them
07:21:12 PMGadwil-Office Codarz360, That completely depends on your host. Who is your web host?
07:21:15 PMmmdmurphy finalblogger - its a reference to "portal" in case you are confused.
07:21:37 PMCodarz360 Gadwill-Office, Im using TMDHosting dont know if you have heard of them?
07:21:57 PMfinalblogger well wht i know abt cakephp is that its a framework which supports MVC applications in php
07:21:58 PMchrisreich rut-roh
07:22:15 PMpyrosrock yep hds are my throttle point!
07:22:23 PMmmdmurphy Anyone take the certified ethical hacker test??? I am considering it & would like to know how tough it is.....
07:22:23 PMGregInTexas Im trying to think of the file name that overrides ... drawing a blank ... help me here ...
07:22:24 PMchrisreich did anyone else get a stream snag?
07:22:26 PMGadwil-Office Codarz, yea, never heard of them, let me do some research.
07:22:39 PMagamotto Yep, now we just need a tool that blocks only IE browsers.... :)
07:22:48 PMCodarz360 Bascially they have a load of computers
07:22:52 PMDosbomber "Certified Ethical Hacker Test"?? Sounds like a fresh load of BS to me...
07:23:40 PMGregInTexas .htaccess ...
07:23:44 PMagamotto Dosbomber- Whitehat test/
07:23:47 PMmmdmurphy Dosbomber - I guess that is another way to reword my question...
07:23:59 PMDosbomber Yes, I know what a whitehat is
07:24:25 PMGadwil-Office Codarz360, Try speaking with them directly. I see they offer Live Chat support, so try that and just ask them directly.
07:24:31 PMDosbomber Whats next, a Certified Human Being test?
07:24:32 PMagamotto Dosbomber- I assume it would be a test along those lines?
07:24:41 PMGadwil-Office wow, That was a super-redundant response...
07:24:46 PMagamotto Dosbomber- Turing... giggle
07:24:51 PMCodarz360 Yup Ive just submitted a ticket now.
07:25:04 PMfinalblogger interesting news for u guys
07:25:07 PMfinalblogger http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/us-funds-secret-internet-in-a-suitcase-for-dissidents-20110613-1fzpp.html
07:25:11 PMfinalblogger check this
07:25:34 PMagamotto finalblogger- i wonder if those get confiscated at US borders?
07:25:38 PM_Jot_ wow, that girl from that website came alive! I see her on the screen right now
07:25:41 PMfinalblogger lol
07:25:49 PMMark_AUS Hi everyone, my first time in chat room. Nice to meet you all.
07:25:56 PMDosbomber Hi Mark
07:25:56 PM_Jot_ hi Mark_AUS
07:25:58 PMagamotto Welcome
07:26:03 PMfinalblogger hi Mark
07:26:04 PMDosbomber Mark the Aussie?
07:26:10 PMChrista haha, you guys are silly
07:26:13 PMagamotto Mark_AUS- What part of Ausieland?
07:26:16 PMmmdmurphy Hi Mark_AUS - guesing AUS is a country somewhere..
07:26:16 PMpyrosrock Mark_AUS good to have a fellow aussie!
07:26:17 PMMark_AUS lol ya, couldnt think of a better name
07:26:20 PMdman810 Hello Mark_AUS
07:26:21 PMsmittysmit Hello Mark
07:26:43 PMdman810 It works Mark!
07:26:47 PMDosbomber Well, its either Australia or Austria.
07:26:51 PMmmdmurphy Didnt Mark_AUS stab Ceasar in the senate? or was that BRUT_AUS?
07:26:53 PMMark_AUS im a tasmanian, ... 2 head jokes now....
07:27:13 PMagamotto Mark_AUS- nah, just jokes about Devils
07:27:19 PMpyrosrock Dosbomber austria is AUT
07:27:27 PMDosbomber Ah
07:27:38 PMmmdmurphy Geico?
07:27:46 PMDosbomber I guess I aut to know that
07:27:55 PMScorpio55 Mark_AUS another from VK7 land
07:27:58 PMCodarz360 I cant believe my web host doesnt allow my to change the PHP.ini
07:28:21 PMGregInTexas I would say most dont Codarz360
07:28:26 PMmmdmurphy Codarz360 - I cant believe you thought they would let you...
07:28:41 PMmmdmurphy Sounds like an invite to hacking.
07:28:41 PMCodarz360 Well I was when I was with bluehost.com
07:28:49 PM_Jot_ Codarz: Let me haxor your computerz! Webhost: sure!
07:28:55 PMCodarz360 Ah well.
07:29:21 PMDosbomber Jot: You forgot to use numbers for half of those letters.. hehehe
07:29:24 PMCodarz360 I can see why they do it but arrrghh im not going to hack them.
07:29:38 PMagamotto I suppose they might if you had a dedicated machine account, instead of a virtual machine account?
07:29:41 PMGregInTexas just override what is in php.ini with an .htaccess file ...
07:29:47 PM_Jot_ Im from the old days, when we used letters and words and sentences and such.
07:29:52 PMCodarz360 You can do that?
07:30:06 PMGregInTexas thats actually how you do it
07:30:27 PMGregInTexas I have access to my server back end, so I dont have to ...
07:30:42 PMmmdmurphy Sounds kinky...
07:30:49 PMpyrosrock lol
07:30:50 PM_Jot_ see you Christa
07:30:57 PMGregInTexas lol ... it does
07:30:58 PMCodarz360 Cheers for that greg will check it out now.
07:31:14 PM_Jot_ hey Hillary
07:31:19 PMDosbomber Cool beans!!
07:31:22 PMGregInTexas you should be able to edit it ...
07:31:28 PMMark_AUS NEWZZZZ!
07:31:30 PMGregInTexas cool beans ... man that was fast
07:31:39 PMGregInTexas another one!!!
07:31:40 PMCodarz360 Will let you know in the next few mins man
07:31:40 PMmmdmurphy I sense a new segment coming...
07:31:51 PMmmdmurphy I GUESSED IT???
07:32:03 PMdman810 good job mmdmurphy
07:32:08 PMchrisreich RobbieF I saw this announcement for AV Linux for content generation. New version released today. http://www.remastersys.com/forums/index.php?topic=1469.0
07:32:12 PMGregInTexas haha ... cool idea!!!
07:32:13 PMMark_AUS Robbie always gets cool toys! lolz
07:32:21 PMdman810 RobbieF that means you have to open them!!
07:32:28 PM_Jot_ Hillary, you want war? You cant handle wars!
07:32:36 PMtordeu Oh no, she didnt!
07:32:38 PMGregInTexas they wont work as well in the package
07:32:45 PMlinuxdude531 she needs to be fired
07:32:46 PMDosbomber The heads of 30 chat room people just exploded, I think.
07:32:48 PMmmdmurphy dman810, yea... So, spend another $1 and buy 2
07:33:07 PMdman810 Might break the bank!!
07:33:09 PMpyrosrock RobbieF what is the aim of the video series? Final result?
07:33:09 PMlinuxdude531 take away he geek card
07:33:17 PMlinuxdude531 her
07:33:28 PMDosbomber Do they make change in Intergalactic Credits?
07:33:45 PMagamotto Ack... nooo, me puir braen canna handle nae moor o this!
07:33:50 PMmmdmurphy Is she going to talk about Weiner???
07:33:57 PMagamotto Bitcoin>
07:34:26 PMagamotto I just find it funny that a guy named Boehner wants to fire a Weiner...
07:34:36 PMmmdmurphy 8 billion for skype, they can settle a patent out of court...
07:34:37 PMDosbomber lol
07:34:54 PMMark_AUS lolz @ agamotto
07:35:25 PMmmdmurphy Facebook = its easier to appologize than ask permission
07:35:40 PMGregInTexas Apple: ditto
07:35:43 PMGregInTexas M$: ditto
07:35:48 PMDosbomber Yet another reason Im glad Ive never been to Facebook
07:35:57 PM_Jot_ facebook did ask everybody, in the license, before people signed up
07:36:06 PMmmdmurphy I have facebook account - I was on it 3 months ago.
07:36:13 PMagamotto "Will the member of Congress/Senate who hasnt done something illegal/inapporpriate PLEASE STAND UP!!?!?!?"
07:36:26 PMmmdmurphy _Jot_ - I dont think so, since I signed up like 3 years ago.
07:36:28 PMpyrosrock mmdmurphy i recently dissabled my fb acc
07:36:34 PMDosbomber Whats bad is when Facebook tags your photos and relates them to Weiners twitter uploads...
07:36:37 PMGregInTexas wiener wont stand up ...
07:36:54 PMchrisreich Great job Hillary :-)
07:37:03 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, we already know who Hillary is!
07:37:07 PMmmdmurphy Just upload pictures of all the people you think might be FBI or CIA spies, then let it identify them
07:37:13 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, It is built into their App Development API. You can get access to everyones "Friend of Friend" info through their own system.
07:37:16 PMGregInTexas a new term: Total Lurking!
07:37:22 PMchrisreich global stalking - I love it.
07:37:27 PMGoodGuy Especially using geolocation in photos
07:37:34 PMagamotto mmdmurphy- Hmmm, make your Facebook profile pic one of the FBIs top 10....
07:37:38 PM{BBI}Nexus{BBI} The real tragedy is the majority of fb users are not security conscious.
07:37:39 PMBattleTank stalkbook
07:38:00 PMmmdmurphy agamotto - THATS FUNNY...:-D
07:38:15 PMMark_AUS lol yeah, even in the movie, it stated it started as school stalkbook!
07:38:35 PMagamotto Not if you set everything to private and friends only... not perfect, but reasonable
07:38:51 PMGregInTexas thats what I do, agamotto
07:38:53 PMDosbomber Bye Hillary!
07:39:03 PMGregInTexas gr8 job Hillary!
07:39:05 PMmmdmurphy What is calypso like? I cant see it being a first person shooter, sounds like second life???
07:39:09 PMDosbomber wb Christa!
07:39:13 PMGoodGuy I installed and uninstalled
07:39:21 PM_Jot_ you cant hide anything on facebook, you can only prevent non-paying facebook-customers from getting your information for free
07:39:24 PMagamotto ubuntu is a linux distro, full stop.
07:39:36 PMagamotto mmdmurphy- you got it
07:39:41 PM_Jot_ mmdmurphy, its a MMORPG, so its both
07:39:52 PM_Jot_ and 3rd person shooter too, if you want to play like that
07:39:55 PMagamotto _Jot_- I can hide anything i dont put on there....
07:40:12 PM_Jot_ agamotto, yeah, but once youre in, you cant
07:40:35 PMagamotto _Jot_- true, but if you are that private, you wouldnt be on it
07:40:55 PMCodarz360 GregInTexas, cheers for that man. It worked!
07:40:59 PM_Jot_ exactly why Im not on it :)
07:41:02 PMmmdmurphy agamotto - I dont use Google for searches... so, that should give you an idea...
07:41:11 PMGregInTexas haha ... great, Codarz360!
07:41:17 PMagamotto mmdmurphy- I use Dogpile for similar reasons
07:41:37 PMCodarz360 I would really have been stuck without that little trick :)
07:41:38 PMMark_AUS what to people think of facebook and web design?
07:41:47 PMGoodGuy Not true agamotto .. might be on there to see someone elses Facebook upon their request
07:42:02 PMmmdmurphy Codarz360 - lost the thread... what worked?
07:42:05 PMCodarz360 Just a check my host cant ban me because of this little work-around.
07:42:07 PMGregInTexas you can do a whole lot ef stuff with .htaccess ... read up
07:42:08 PMDosbomber Facebook: Never used it, never will. Web Design: Been 10 years since Ive needed to do it.
07:42:21 PMMark_AUS but fan pages, with crappy flash again
07:42:29 PMCodarz360 mmdmurphy, I managed to overwrite to the php.ini
07:42:34 PMGregInTexas you can also screw the pooch with .htaccess, so read up
07:42:35 PMmmdmurphy gotch
07:42:36 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, You have joined 95% of the Ubuntu User population.
07:42:37 PMmmdmurphy a
07:42:41 PMagamotto GoodGuy- Hmmm, not sure of that. I only friend people who use friend only features... not perfect, but again...
07:42:51 PMalket I moved back to Lucid
07:43:12 PMGregInTexas ... switch to mac ... lol ... not
07:43:16 PMGadwil-Office Robbie, Just move to Fedora.
07:43:18 PMu-al lol christa
07:43:20 PMCodarz360 I see. GregInTexas, is it possible for my host to ban me if I continue to use that workaround?
07:43:27 PMchrisreich Im very selective about who I friend. Or maybe its the other way around... Hmmmmm.
07:43:27 PMMark_AUS im seeing business getting people to buld flash based Facebook fan pages, instead of getting their own website.....
07:43:33 PMDosbomber Whats with all the problems with the new Ubuntu version? Dont they test things before they release new version? (Where have I had this conversation before? Hmmm....)
07:43:39 PMalket An Apple a day brings loans today
07:43:49 PMGregInTexas no Codarz360 ... not really a work around ... its the normal way its done
07:43:59 PMagamotto Codarz360- most wont care about it
07:44:29 PMGregInTexas I quit using Filezilla ... Nautilus does it all for me
07:44:29 PMmmdmurphy thats what Weiner said...
07:44:37 PMCodarz360 Ah ok. When I contacted support they didnt tell me about overwritting it they just tried getting more money from me by saying upgrade to a higher package.
07:44:38 PMagamotto Mark_AUS- I stay away from all of that... only people I actually want to have contact with
07:44:41 PMChrista Haha, oh theyre not that bad!
07:44:57 PMChrista I had a Mac all through college, never needed a loan to buy one
07:45:11 PM_Jot_ Poor Christa
07:45:12 PMagamotto XFCE is nice
07:45:13 PMMark_AUS yeah, i agree, but when customers ask for it instead of a website, i cringe
07:45:15 PMGoodGuy Wealthy parents? :-)
07:45:16 PMGregInTexas when you have the coin, Codarz360, life is really better if you have access to the backend
07:45:30 PMmmdmurphy Christa , you have to admit they arent cheap in price...
07:45:33 PMDosbomber Ate Raman soup all through college?
07:45:34 PMchrisreich agamotto I agree about XFCE
07:45:44 PMajamison5579 Apple had a valid reason to charge large sums when they owned their proprietary hardware, now that they use identical hardware to pcs in alot of respects they should not be that expensive
07:45:50 PMagamotto mmdmurphy- can be quite cheap with edu discounts
07:45:50 PMGregInTexas I keep hearing about XFCE
07:46:12 PMmmdmurphy Damn, you mean I went to college 20 years too soon???
07:46:13 PMagamotto I routinely install Xubuntu on older laptops
07:46:16 PMGadwil-Office Conanical does offer a version of Ubuntu with LXDE by default, it is called Lubuntu. Found at http://lubuntu.net/
07:46:19 PMCodarz360 GregInTexas, I should imagine it is but I dont really need to upgrade as I only really use the server for learning and testing code on.
07:46:42 PMjonathon Anyone try Lubuntu?
07:46:44 PMChrista No, theyre not cheap....but in the time I had one Mac, my roommate went through 3 pcs
07:46:48 PMchrisreich mmdmurphy there is great value in having a computer that "just works" especially as the due date for your term paper approaches. I cannot trust Windows to not crash.
07:47:01 PMagamotto chrisreich- agreed
07:47:01 PMGregInTexas Ive run websites many times with only cPanel access, Codarz360, but having ssh access is invaluable
07:47:04 PMajamison5579 LXDE branched off of KDE and XFCE branched off Gnome
07:47:07 PMmmdmurphy chrisreich - I dual boot everything...
07:47:14 PM_Jot_ Christa, stop breaking peoples PC just to make a point!
07:47:33 PMChrista haha, you mean youre not supposed to pour soda over them?
07:47:34 PMMark_AUS most graphic designers i have worked with have all had Macs... Im a windows/linux bloke tho
07:47:39 PMChrista It looked thirsty
07:47:41 PMchrisreich I hold dual-booting to be begging for problems.
07:47:50 PMGadwil-Office * apparently Lubuntu is not done by Canonical.
07:47:53 PMDosbomber PC is not short for Pepsi-Cola
07:47:53 PM_Jot_ Christa, you confuse a PC with a mac with the sad-face on it
07:47:58 PMCodarz360 Yup I know. GregInTexas, I tried to SSH but you need to contact them firstly and give them a reason why you need access to it.
07:48:10 PMalket I think using XFCE or LXDE is pointless, you still will use OO.org , Firefox etc, that are gnome based, so you will basicly limit yourself to panels
07:48:11 PMajamison5579 Chrisreich how is dual-booting begging for problems
07:48:18 PMGregInTexas most of them charge more for ssh access
07:48:24 PMagamotto chrisreich- Really? Never had one with it so far, and I have been doing it that way for most of the decade.
07:48:31 PMpyrosrock RobbieF facebook and the future is like the retina scanners in minority repory
07:48:45 PMCodarz360 Why? what does it actually do thats better that FTP/SFTP?
07:48:55 PMmmdmurphy my beef about dual booting is everyne wants to update the boot loader.
07:48:55 PM_Jot_ tvs are getting cameras now, so its more like 1984 and fahrenheit 451
07:49:09 PMagamotto alket- the main purpose is to cut down on gfx requirements for older kit.
07:49:16 PMjonathon I think Lhbuntu is trying to become official
07:49:17 PMGregInTexas ssh gives you command line access (ie, gedit php.ini)
07:49:18 PMchrisreich Before I bought my first Mac I talked to a lot of people and noticed that the Windows users talked about what they did *to* their computers and Mac owners talked about what they did *with* their computers.
07:49:30 PMCodarz360 Ah I see
07:49:36 PMMark_AUS agree crhis
07:49:40 PMmmdmurphy chrisreich, kind of like being married vs. single?
07:49:48 PMagamotto chrisreich- exactly
07:49:55 PMalket what is that sound like blackbird in background
07:50:00 PMajamison5579 alket and in addition to what agamotto said you have no good awful Unity or Gnome-shell
07:50:01 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, did you start windows XP by mistake?
07:50:01 PMGregInTexas I use ssh to maintain my sanity because cpanel sometimes gives unexpected results
07:50:05 PMMark_AUS but... u can work faster, and more flexible with out mac
07:50:15 PMchrisreich ajamison5579 Windows assumes it owns the entire drive and will not hesitate to overwrite Linux files/sectors.
07:50:21 PMGoodGuy Maybe thats because PC users still had money left to do something.. Apple users were broke and not much stuff to buy if they werent
07:50:30 PMagamotto Mark_AUS- depends on the application
07:50:38 PMjonathon Lubuntu has beent my "go to" for old hardware recently. Uses Chromium as df browser.
07:50:38 PMCodarz360 I need to try this SSH but cant think of a good enough reason to make them give me access :/
07:50:43 PMMark_AUS basicvally talking about web/graphic design
07:50:44 PMGregInTexas ooo sexy
07:51:09 PMajamison5579 chrisreich ah well I tri-boot now and use Windows 7 as the boot loader no problems here. The issue is be careful how you partition your linux install and where you install grub
07:51:12 PMChrista Haha, what can I say....its a gift
07:51:19 PMGregInTexas well, if they will without charging you more money ... tell them to give you access because you want it
07:51:20 PMgpop7 pc and mac both have there place
07:51:42 PMajamison5579 I would love to get my hands on a Mac Mini
07:51:46 PMajamison5579 just so i can toy with Mac
07:51:51 PMmmdmurphy My 2 cents - I can boot to Mac/ windows/ linux and get stuff done.
07:51:52 PMCodarz360 I dont think they charge extra. Ill just say I want access
07:51:54 PMChrista I think when youre in the discussion of Mac vs PC....you kind of just have to agree to disagree unfortunately
07:52:05 PMDosbomber I would love to get my hands on a Mac....... so I could sell it and buy 2 PCs. :)
07:52:08 PMagamotto ajamison5579- hunt for them on shopgoodwill.com... they pop up somewhat often
07:52:08 PMajamison5579 but $699 for the specs of a mac mini to me seems counter-intuitive
07:52:08 PMchrisreich I plan to never run Windows on a computer I own ever again. Im done with Windows since 2000.
07:52:17 PMgpop7 i have a dual boot of ubuntu and xp
07:52:28 PMGregInTexas its just "ssh userid@ipaddress" ... and youll have a prompt
07:52:41 PM_Jot_ Christa, Macs are the same as PCs these days, only the userinterface is different, and that always brings disagreements because interfaces are personal
07:52:47 PMGregInTexas $699? holy cow
07:53:04 PMMark_AUS hhe mac not same PRICE as pc tho
07:53:05 PMGregInTexas Asus Eee ... $349 ready for ubuntu
07:53:07 PMCodarz360 Ok.
07:53:07 PMgpop7 i am still trying to learn the commands
07:53:09 PMGadwil-Office Christa, Ask Robbie if he plans on moving to TinyCore linux. hehe.
07:53:18 PMajamison5579 chrisreich excellent that might work for you, I however am a hopeless gamer and need to play games or i start twitching uncontrollabley and drool for a half an hour lol
07:53:20 PMchrisreich ajamison5579 its incorrect to compare Apple hardware cost vs. PCs built w/ commodity parts. As Christa says, youll go through 3 PCs per Mac.
07:53:29 PMagamotto chrisreich- When I am able to upgrade to quad or hex core, I plan on moving all of my games over to WINE and ditching the Win XP I keep for gaming
07:53:49 PMchrisreich Im a gamer too ajamison5579. Computer chess.
07:53:56 PMmmdmurphy ajamison559, good point. I am going to start "STEAM" as soon as this is over...
07:53:58 PMGregInTexas you could just drink the wine and forget about the games ...
07:54:08 PMGadwil-Office agamotto, I use Win 7 for games. wine wont run most of them.
07:54:15 PMDosbomber I dont even like Macintosh apples, but I cant say that has anything to do with Apple, Inc.
07:54:41 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- I have had quite a bit of luck lately... civ4, DDO, Oblivion
07:54:42 PMajamison5579 My name is ANdrew and I am addicted to Games! Oh well better that then liquer
07:54:55 PMmmdmurphy I prefer BEER, but it doesnt help with windows games either.
07:54:58 PMdman810 I mean another drive
07:55:01 PMagamotto ajamison5579- and cheaper
07:55:05 PMfinalblogger hmmm
07:55:06 PMchrisreich I like girls.
07:55:07 PMMark_AUS ive used my laptop for 6 years for web design, and 6 others in the team all on macs have had to upgrade their macs twice... ive sent maybe $200 on laptop to get new HDD, ram , graphics card etc, where team mates had to go spend another $2,000 each time...
07:55:37 PMGadwil-Office agamotto, Interesting. I still like having it naitive, it simply works w/o too much, if any, extra config.
07:55:41 PMfinalblogger great saving Mark
07:55:45 PMfinalblogger :)
07:55:53 PMDosbomber Wow Mark
07:55:55 PMajamison5579 chrisreich and your implying i dont? I am married with a child i just game when i have time and I am not spending time with family
07:56:17 PMagamotto Gadwil-Office- true... the stuff that doesnt work under WINE, I keep on the XP partition, but the list gets smaller each year
07:56:47 PMpyrosrock i have win7 dual boot for games unfortunatly
07:56:53 PMagamotto ajamison5579- it is a nice alternative to attempting to find something to watch on the telly
07:56:54 PMajamison5579 Speaking of which I am out guys daughter is out of the tub time to put her to bed
07:57:04 PMGregInTexas I play games on my droid ...
07:57:11 PMagamotto ajamison5579- dry her off first!
07:57:11 PMDosbomber I find Miro to be an excellent replacement for the telly
07:57:14 PMGadwil-Office agamotto, well, good luck with moving to WINE only. I will wait for Naitive Linux games to be getting developed.
07:57:23 PMGadwil-Office maybe COD: MW3....
07:57:24 PMchrisreich ajamison5579 beer, wine, liquor, games were all mentioned. I threw in my 2 cents.
07:58:08 PMpyrosrock @Gadwil-Office if cod goes native linux i will totaly forgive the whole series for being CRAP!
07:58:30 PMchrisreich pyrosrock what is cod?
07:58:33 PMGoodGuy Do you play Miro to the TV Dosbomber ?
07:58:36 PMDosbomber Call Of Duty
07:58:43 PMchrisreich thanks
07:58:48 PMalket Times Up
07:59:00 PMGregInTexas 2 min to go here
07:59:05 PMChrista yay! I am a fan of COD
07:59:15 PMChrista I suck at it, but Im still a fan
07:59:18 PMGregInTexas cash on delivery
07:59:20 PMGregInTexas ?
07:59:26 PMMark_AUS cod is a fish! :P
07:59:28 PMGregInTexas Im a fan of that too
07:59:28 PMfinalblogger lol @ suck at it
07:59:37 PMpyrosrock the first 3 cod games were good but all the others are crap!
07:59:42 PMagamotto Christa- I suck at singing, but it doesnt stop me
07:59:59 PMpyrosrock battlefeild games are way bettor
08:00:08 PMagamotto yes, isnt cod the old name for tilapia?
08:00:09 PMDosbomber GoodGuy: Nope, just on the monitor. Im almost always doing something on the computer or working on some project nearby.
08:00:16 PMGregInTexas I dont suck at singing, but if I add WINE ... I do
08:00:19 PMchrisreich huh? is there singing in Call Of Duty?
08:00:21 PMdman810 yes it does, Thanks RobbieF, I will try it again!
08:00:26 PMalket Urban Terror is way to fun than other Windows-specific games
08:00:35 PMfinalblogger haii
08:00:37 PMfinalblogger robbief
08:00:39 PMGregInTexas lol at the disclaimer
08:00:41 PMfinalblogger plzzz
08:00:45 PMdman810 My data is on my Pogoplug!
08:00:46 PMMark_AUS thx for the show Robbie n Christa
08:00:47 PMfinalblogger tell us abt cakephp
08:00:48 PMagamotto chrisreich- there is if you want to torture your team....
08:00:49 PMpyrosrock i like assult cube on linux!
08:01:06 PMfinalblogger ok
08:01:08 PMGoodGuy Thanks Dosbomber .. I was ho[ing you found a way.. Currently I copy the downloaded Miro episodes to a thumb drive and watch via WD Live TV
08:01:09 PMfinalblogger c uu
08:01:11 PMGregInTexas I wanna 2 hour show!!!
08:01:12 PMfinalblogger guysss
08:01:17 PMchrisreich what game was the group with Leroy Jenkins playing?
08:01:22 PMGoodGuy hoping
08:01:25 PMGregInTexas good show yall !!!
08:01:33 PMfinalblogger haha
08:01:36 PMpyrosrock RobbieF christa facebook is trying to move to a world like the advertising in minority report
08:01:40 PMGregInTexas cool beans
08:01:41 PMMark_AUS @goodguy i have pc plugged into tv as a display so just play it all on mMiro
08:01:41 PMGadwil-Office RobbieF, No PS3 clan... They want to charge $5 just to make it, and have a maximum of 31 users in it.
08:01:45 PMalket Robbie is really a true multi-tasker
08:01:45 PMGregInTexas c o o k i e s
08:01:47 PMagamotto GoodGuy- cant run an HDMI to a telly nearby?
08:01:49 PMDosbomber Leeeeeeeroy Jenkins!!! Was in World of Warcraft.
08:02:11 PMchrisreich thanks Dosbomber. I still find that hilarious. :-)
08:02:16 PMDosbomber .....but at least he had chicken.
08:02:20 PMgpop7 enjoyed the show. have a great evening everyone.
08:02:22 PMGoodGuy Thats a good idea Mark_AUS .. I am too lazy to unplug and move this pc back and forth
08:02:25 PMchrisreich mmmmmmm chicken
08:02:41 PM{BBI}Nexus{BBI} great show robbie & co.. (y)
08:02:41 PMChrista pyrosrock, that would be creepy if that were to be the future
08:02:42 PMgpop7 christa where are the cookies.
08:02:43 PMGoodGuy If I had a decent spare PC, I would do your idea
08:02:46 PMagamotto pyrosrock- yes, where we can go to the mall wearing Guy Fawkes masks just to mess with them!
08:02:51 PMchrisreich thanks for the laughs guys. Good night all
08:03:08 PMfinalblogger well that was a sweet show
08:03:18 PMMark_AUS @goodGuy, you will love it mate, its great having everything on bigscreen
08:03:21 PMfinalblogger but hope next one would be more interesting
08:03:28 PMMark_AUS later everyone,
08:03:31 PMpyrosrock haha yeah and get fake eyes to crash the add systems
08:03:34 PMfinalblogger see u
08:03:57 PMGregInTexas I gotta go feed my animals ...
08:03:59 PMagamotto Come to think of it, perhaps Muslim women have the right idea, but for the wrong reason... wear the niqab to protect your privacy!!!
08:04:09 PMGoodGuy I get the shows on a large screen tv.. just via Sneaker Net.... plug in flash drive and switch the input to my WD Live TV
08:04:21 PMGoodGuy It is 1080p on some shows
08:04:32 PMChrista There are no cookies this show!
08:04:35 PMGoodGuy The Revision 3 shows look great
08:04:36 PMChrista I am disappointed
08:04:57 PMGadwil-Office Christa, I got plenty of cookies. Every time I reloaded the website.
08:04:59 PMpyrosrock christa i wood be 2!
08:04:59 PMagamotto Christa- I have cookies here, but it is a 700mi commute
08:05:17 PMGoodGuy Dr Bills netcasts look high quality also.. He must own a great camcorder
08:05:38 PMgpop7 see you next week. same time same station
08:05:45 PMagamotto Anyone hear much about this new magical tablet that Amazon is supposedly coming out with for the holiday season?
08:05:49 PM_Jot_ Christa, Robbie ate the cookies, sorry

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