| 07:00:00 PM | Drumstick | I see your point evermind...
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| 07:00:02 PM | keith_heaton_ | hey jon
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| 07:00:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | Dad is fine
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| 07:00:12 PM | evermind | there we go
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| 07:00:14 PM | Michaeliowa | hi all
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| 07:00:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | Im off to the hospital tomorrow
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| 07:00:23 PM | invincibledroid | it is on
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| 07:00:30 PM | _Jot_ | hi people I didnt say hello to
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| 07:00:38 PM | GregInTexas | Do Jon and Keith know each other?
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| 07:00:44 PM | ajamison5579 | lol is it just me or does it look like Christy and Hillarys hair in the intro was green
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| 07:00:51 PM | jonathon | hi keith_heaton
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| 07:00:53 PM | _Jot_ | Guests, if you want to change your nick, you can! Just think of a new name, and type /nick yournewnickname
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| 07:01:00 PM | jonathon | hi all
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| 07:01:04 PM | invincibledroid | Hillary havent updated her second name
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| 07:01:15 PM | Newa | humble bundle time again, android too this time :) http://www.humblebundle.com/
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| 07:01:45 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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| 07:01:54 PM | OldGuyJim | Guitarplaya2000 John...you made it.
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| 07:02:06 PM | evermind | damarc.org i think...
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| 07:02:07 PM | Dave-Maydew | Fishing with a PH :-)#
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| 07:02:10 PM | Michaeliowa | lol
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| 07:02:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | You too RobbieF
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| 07:02:48 PM | Blithe55 | Hi
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| 07:02:53 PM | as759 | Hi
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| 07:02:54 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, there is something wrong with your setup! you write lots of notes, but there arent any post-its all over your screens with notes and passwords and stuff
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| 07:02:54 PM | Guitarplaya2000 | Heres a big shout out to OldGuyJim!
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| 07:02:54 PM | GregInTexas | Thanks Newa for the link ...
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| 07:02:55 PM | robgor | hi RobbieF and Hillary
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| 07:02:57 PM | evermind | hi Blithe55
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| 07:03:02 PM | robgor | hey all
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| 07:03:07 PM | OldGuyJim | Ouch....I heard that.
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| 07:03:11 PM | Michaeliowa | yes
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| 07:03:17 PM | keith_heaton_ | yes i have
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| 07:03:18 PM | gpop7 | Hello everyone.
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| 07:03:22 PM | agamotto | Tim Hortons jingle?
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| 07:03:25 PM | chrisreich | welcom keith_heaton_
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| 07:03:25 PM | keith_heaton_ | and thank you
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| 07:03:27 PM | invincibledroid | hello...
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| 07:04:15 PM | robgor | welcome keith_h
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| 07:04:20 PM | agamotto | What a shame that I just closed and deleted my Google account... oh well
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| 07:04:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | I can watch it on my Tablet PC and phone then!!
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| 07:04:35 PM | OldGuyJim | Welcome, indeed, keith_heaton_
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| 07:04:50 PM | jonathon | Miro!
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| 07:04:55 PM | Blithe55 | Watching on my Tab will be great
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| 07:05:00 PM | Newa | points for Miro too :)
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| 07:05:08 PM | GregInTexas | dont know how youd run android without a google account of some sort ...
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| 07:05:10 PM | evermind | miro for archive, yah
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| 07:05:12 PM | invincibledroid | which tablet are u using
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| 07:05:13 PM | evermind | live on miro, nope
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| 07:05:18 PM | ajamison5579 | Closed Captions
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| 07:05:22 PM | Newa | but youtube has lots of integration for different devices and requires minimal setup
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| 07:05:25 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I can timetravel, I always travel forward though
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| 07:05:27 PM | ajamison5579 | also make for a humourus view
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| 07:05:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ive got a Chinese APAD running Uberoid v10.1 and Samsung Galaxy Mini Android 2.3.4 and I cant watch live on either :-(
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| 07:05:36 PM | invincibledroid | YouTube ?
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| 07:05:38 PM | Newa | (installing flash or a html5 capable browser)
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| 07:05:39 PM | Blithe55 | I have a BlackBerry PlayBook
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| 07:05:41 PM | evermind | and theres live.cat5.tv
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| 07:05:44 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- I have decided the sacrifice is worth it, in the name of privacy.
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| 07:05:53 PM | jonathon | always watch on Miro when I miss the live show
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| 07:06:20 PM | invincibledroid | yea...cant watch on Samsung galaxy ace
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| 07:06:24 PM | GregInTexas | I read the google privacy thing in full ...
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| 07:06:34 PM | GregInTexas | havent fully groked it yet
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| 07:06:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | Is the Google Privacy change thing a good one??
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| 07:07:01 PM | Dave-Maydew | Im still out with the jury on it
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| 07:07:02 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- which is why I am walking away from Google. I should not have to be a lawyer to read it.
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| 07:07:06 PM | evermind | Dave-Maydew, thats yet to be seen
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| 07:07:10 PM | GregInTexas | not so much Dave-Maydew
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| 07:07:16 PM | Michaeliowa | Robbie will it work on hp touchpad?
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| 07:07:21 PM | GregInTexas | too invasive in my opinion
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| 07:07:27 PM | agamotto | tis moi!
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| 07:08:11 PM | agamotto | I am not used to having to write so small!
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| 07:08:19 PM | GregInTexas | shouldve printed
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| 07:08:19 PM | evermind | it might help pre-reading before the show starts;)
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| 07:08:41 PM | agamotto | heheeheheh
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| 07:08:50 PM | GoodGuy | Thats the charm of a live show evermind
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| 07:09:06 PM | evermind | theres lots of charms to a live show i have to say
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| 07:09:09 PM | agamotto | Forever stamps
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| 07:09:18 PM | GregInTexas | yea, forever stamps
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| 07:09:19 PM | evermind | any stamp collectors around?
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| 07:09:34 PM | ajamison5579 | Agamotto more like save our postal service
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| 07:09:38 PM | OldGuyJim | Guitarplaya... you disappeared for a moment.
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| 07:09:45 PM | evermind | god, aussies, thats far away
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| 07:09:46 PM | agamotto | Next time, I will use a smudge-proof Sharpie, instead of my fountain pen.
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| 07:09:48 PM | Michaeliowa | agamotto: did it get up 60s today for you day?
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| 07:10:05 PM | agamotto | Michaeliowa- yep, sadly the sun ran away around lunch time
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| 07:10:06 PM | robgor | cool my postcards
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| 07:10:17 PM | Guitarplaya2000 | Trying my old, Houdini trick OldGuyJim!
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| 07:10:42 PM | Michaeliowa | agamotto: I love the sun and the 60s in Des Moines.
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| 07:10:58 PM | OldGuyJim | GuitarPlaya2000...I bet you wish you could that with those laptop carts you built out.
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| 07:11:01 PM | agamotto | Michaeliowa- I managed to get my sun yesterday
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| 07:11:04 PM | rick34637 | along time viewer but first time in a chat
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| 07:11:12 PM | GregInTexas | I spread my internet usage around quite a bit agamotto, so google doesnt know too very much about me
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| 07:11:26 PM | evermind | welcome to the chat, rick34637
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| 07:11:39 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- i do as well, but I was going to use more services until this latest burp.
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| 07:11:45 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, hillary, rick34637 is new here
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| 07:11:47 PM | Guitarplaya2000 | LOL! You know it, OldGuyJim!
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| 07:12:19 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- I have even deprecated them as my search engine
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| 07:12:26 PM | GregInTexas | my workplace uses gmail, so I cant get away from google ... but I removed any CDN stuff from my sites
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| 07:12:29 PM | ajamison5579 | L4N? postal code?
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| 07:12:41 PM | agamotto | I am trying to decide between Blekko and Dogpatch.
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| 07:12:47 PM | agamotto | Dogpile, that should b
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| 07:13:12 PM | GregInTexas | Ive used Dogpile in the past ... there are several ... but Im still using google to search
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| 07:13:13 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- yes, Canadian postcodes are just like those in UK
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| 07:13:19 PM | GregInTexas | but I use yahoo to IM
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| 07:13:22 PM | ajamison5579 | ah
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| 07:13:28 PM | GregInTexas | and a local email provider
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| 07:13:31 PM | evermind | yaim, still alive?
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| 07:13:38 PM | Dave-Maydew | I use gmail on my Android devices, and synced Calendar across all 5 of my devices
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| 07:13:39 PM | GregInTexas | yahoo IM rocks
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| 07:13:47 PM | GregInTexas | except I actually use Pidgin
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| 07:13:50 PM | rick34637 | yes l o l
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| 07:13:53 PM | robgor | wow it only took about 3 week for the postcards to arrive
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| 07:14:07 PM | rick34637 | land olakes florida
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| 07:14:10 PM | evermind | havent been on yaim in bout 6 years
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| 07:14:21 PM | agamotto | rick34637- You live in a butter tub?
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| 07:14:28 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:14:29 PM | OldGuyJim | Land olakes... nice place
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| 07:14:55 PM | robgor | yep give hime some points
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| 07:14:57 PM | GregInTexas | Google invaded my ustream ...
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| 07:15:01 PM | evermind | poor wife
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| 07:15:01 PM | agamotto | Another penguinista!
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| 07:15:21 PM | agamotto | Unplug the connector on the mobo?
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| 07:15:23 PM | agamotto | hehehehe
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| 07:15:23 PM | ajamison5579 | Open computer yank track pad cable
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| 07:15:31 PM | ajamison5579 | but not advised
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| 07:15:42 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF how do I solve the Nvidia driver installed but not activated in Ubuntu 11.10 on a GeForce FX card?
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| 07:15:57 PM | agamotto | Cinnamon, cardamom, turmeric
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| 07:15:57 PM | _Jot_ | you can also take a screwdriver and jam it through the touchpad, that sometimes works but also is not advised
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| 07:15:59 PM | talibcyg | Hey Robbie my wife is using a Dell Laptop with Lubuntu 11.10
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| 07:16:05 PM | Dave-Maydew | Cinemon?? RobbieF are you talking about Whisky again??
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| 07:16:09 PM | evermind | that happens if developers have a word in naming a product
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| 07:16:16 PM | ajamison5579 | Carrage Return that is so Type writter
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| 07:16:24 PM | OldGuyJim | Turmeric is good for the liver.
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| 07:16:27 PM | chaslinux | My wife got upset when I offered her Windows... ;-)
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| 07:16:41 PM | evermind | can we call it enterprise;)
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| 07:16:45 PM | Dave-Maydew | My wife only runs Windows
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| 07:16:50 PM | agamotto | Or your thumb, or your knuckle...
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| 07:16:53 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, that typing thing is called an ID-10-T error
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| 07:17:06 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | TouchFreeze toggles the touchpad
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| 07:17:12 PM | robgor | never had that problem with the touchpad on ubuntu
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| 07:17:17 PM | agamotto | Sure it doesnt fall under PEBCAK?
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| 07:17:25 PM | rick34637 | I RUN RCSFOUNDATIONFORVETERANS.COM I GIVE FREE COMPUTERS TO VETERANS AND THEY ARE MOSTLY UBUNTU OS.
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| 07:17:36 PM | Dave-Maydew | installing Ubuntu 10.04 onto another PC on Thursday nice!!
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| 07:17:36 PM | evermind | ive had sync probs with a touchpad once, thats bout my touchpad probs, but a kernel upgrade fixed that one
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| 07:17:38 PM | agamotto | coolies
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| 07:17:41 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, could be, but the computer always gives me that other error when I try something
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| 07:17:52 PM | agamotto | heeheheh
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| 07:18:08 PM | agamotto | Nah, just a Ferengi Captain...
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| 07:18:36 PM | GoodGuy | dman810 iirc
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| 07:18:46 PM | _Jot_ | yep, dman810
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| 07:19:10 PM | agamotto | As long as you arent portraying Joque le Coq...
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| 07:19:21 PM | GoodGuy | Everything!
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| 07:19:38 PM | GoodGuy | Whatever you dont want to LOSE!
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| 07:19:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | nice
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| 07:19:49 PM | ajamison5579 | Is it bad that when people mention Canada i immediately think of the old skits on SC TV
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| 07:19:53 PM | evermind | c:\\documents and settings, or c:\\users
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| 07:19:58 PM | evermind | depending on win version
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| 07:20:20 PM | chaslinux | Oh, has anyone experienced problems with Tomboy synchronizing from 10.04 to Ubuntu One then to an Ubuntu 11.10 system? I find 11.10 barfs after downloading a few of the notes from Ubuntu One, mind you I have a couple hundred notes.
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| 07:20:29 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Nah, it just dates you. Now... if you had mention that you think of Molsons everytime you think of Canada...
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| 07:20:48 PM | GregInTexas | love Molson
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| 07:21:06 PM | Michaeliowa | ajamison5579: I like SC TV is very funny!
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| 07:21:15 PM | GregInTexas | $HOME
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| 07:21:35 PM | ajamison5579 | John Candy and Rick Moranis (i think it was him) does not get much funnier then that
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| 07:21:35 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- it might be a good idea to use the Easy Transfer tool in Win7 to create a USB key backup of those things, along with settings...
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| 07:21:51 PM | evermind | %HOME% on windows
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| 07:22:14 PM | GregInTexas | Im starting to forget windows ...
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| 07:22:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | new version of Squeeze out now
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| 07:22:25 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- same here
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| 07:22:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Windows are the things that let air and light in
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| 07:22:39 PM | Dave-Maydew | Im going Debian over the weekend
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| 07:23:15 PM | GregInTexas | Im thinking of actually installing 12.04 when it comes out, and using Gnome3
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| 07:23:37 PM | agamotto | Doesnt Mozilla have a migration tool for linuxen that gathers everything into one file for you?
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| 07:23:41 PM | GregInTexas | I use bitnami to encapsulate my server type stuff
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| 07:23:46 PM | Michaeliowa | ajamison5579: have you seen in John Candy Canadian Bacon?
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| 07:23:53 PM | ajamison5579 | yep
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| 07:23:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | Theres Nvidia issues with Ubuntu 11.04 & 11.10 at the moment, and I want a good Distro that works
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| 07:23:57 PM | robgor | RobbieF I would like to be able to backup my ReadyNAS NV+ which has 4 x 2TB drives, I know I can use freenas etc on another pc, but dont really want to setup another pc, any suggestions
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| 07:24:03 PM | rick34637 | I AM NOW DOWNLOADING ZORIN OS AFTER WATCHING YOUR OLDER SHOW
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| 07:24:03 PM | keith_heaton_ | robbie is there a chance you guys could do a pxe epasound explaneing how it work
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| 07:24:03 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- i will try 12.04. if I dont like it, I will move over to Mint.
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| 07:24:26 PM | ajamison5579 | one of his best movies by far is Planes trains and Automobiles Michaeliowa
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| 07:24:35 PM | agamotto | rick34637- You dont need the all caps here.
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| 07:24:42 PM | GregInTexas | I keep hearing very good things about Mint, agamotto
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| 07:24:50 PM | Michaeliowa | funny man
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| 07:24:58 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- i am getting used to it on my laptop.
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| 07:25:14 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, dont forget that on Windows also folders like Users are localized, so on my system, in the filesystem it is called Users but on the screen it is called Gebruikers which is the Dutch word for Users
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| 07:25:16 PM | GregInTexas | you have it agamotto? ... like it?
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| 07:25:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | has anyone else had issues with Nvidia cards under Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10??
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| 07:25:26 PM | agamotto | "Yes, I rebuke my computer with Windows XP..."
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| 07:25:29 PM | evermind | dave, what kind of issues
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| 07:25:35 PM | OldGuyJim | Linuxmint 13 with cinnamon desktop is coming soon.
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| 07:25:45 PM | ajamison5579 | XP will break your system
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| 07:25:52 PM | chaslinux | Recuva on Windows is nice for recovering files.
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| 07:25:56 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- So far, so good. A couple of oddities, but nothing that takes more than 5min to get over.
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| 07:26:02 PM | GregInTexas | Yes, I have a friend that had probs with nvidia
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| 07:26:03 PM | Michaeliowa | yes that is a very good movie ajamison5579:
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| 07:26:05 PM | OldGuyJim | Recuva is good.
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| 07:26:05 PM | Dave-Maydew | grey screens, and when I activate the 173 driver it says installed but not activated
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| 07:26:19 PM | chaslinux | On Linux the tool to use is Foremost (recovering data)...
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| 07:26:30 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew- the 173 drivers are problematic on many distros
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| 07:26:30 PM | evermind | grey screens nope, if you mean like ... black... or not loading, its prolly missing the driver
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| 07:26:35 PM | evermind | check if the module is loaded
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| 07:26:39 PM | evermind | lsmod |grep nvidia
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| 07:26:42 PM | evermind | from a shell
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| 07:26:51 PM | chaslinux | Recuva is dead easy for Windows users (recovering data).
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| 07:26:52 PM | evermind | ctrl+alt+f1 for a shell
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| 07:27:04 PM | evermind | if its not loaded, try to reconfigure the nvidia driver
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| 07:27:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | no when it boots to the desktop its grey and a cut out where *Cough* unity is
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| 07:27:14 PM | Scorpio55 | Dave-Maydew blacklist the Nouvea driver
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| 07:27:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | tried it
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| 07:27:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | it stalls on boot
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| 07:27:33 PM | rick34637 | I just changed my 11-04 desktop from unity to ubuntu classic
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| 07:27:35 PM | evermind | if everything else fails, you could get the binary driver from nvidia.com
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| 07:27:40 PM | evermind | and run it from a shell
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| 07:27:49 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew- did you --purge the Nouveau driver in Synaptic?
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| 07:27:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | done that too
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| 07:27:51 PM | evermind | sometimes that helps
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| 07:27:54 PM | Scorpio55 | Some older Nvidia TI series and FX are no longer supported by Nvidia
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| 07:28:02 PM | Dave-Maydew | Seems to be an issue with Ubuntu
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| 07:28:11 PM | evermind | yeah, gotta have the right nvidia driver version for your card
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| 07:28:22 PM | agamotto | 96 works for many laptops
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| 07:28:26 PM | evermind | on the other hand, does ubuntu classic work?
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| 07:28:31 PM | evermind | then it could be a compiz thing
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| 07:28:32 PM | Garbee | Yay, I finally made it.
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| 07:28:38 PM | Dave-Maydew | Im running a Sony VGC-V2M with the GeForce FX 5700
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| 07:28:54 PM | agamotto | evermind- it is the driver itself. There are problems with non-deb distros as well.
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| 07:28:57 PM | chaslinux | Robbie, but I think it depends how important your data really is... you dont want to run chkdsk on a drive you suspect is failing, step #1 is cloning the drive, then run all the tools on the cloned drive. But for critical data.
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| 07:28:58 PM | evermind | enter that in nvidia.com driver chooser
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| 07:29:03 PM | evermind | itll show you the version number you need
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| 07:29:05 PM | Dave-Maydew | it runs great in 10.04 and 10.10 but then goes mad in 11.04 and 11.10
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| 07:29:14 PM | Garbee | Recuva is good and testdisk
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| 07:29:18 PM | agamotto | ow ow ow
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| 07:29:18 PM | Scorpio55 | Some FX series cards no longer supported by Nvidia
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| 07:29:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | Canonical are working on the issue apparently
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| 07:29:37 PM | agamotto | Boot n Nuke?
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| 07:29:39 PM | evermind | 5700 sounds kinda new though
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| 07:29:40 PM | rick34637 | How do I get desktop drapes to work on 11-04 I have avant dock working.
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| 07:29:45 PM | evermind | well, my lowest is a 6200
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| 07:29:49 PM | Michaeliowa | Robbie is SpinRite will work?
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| 07:30:02 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief not in all cases
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| 07:30:10 PM | agamotto | 5700 is old for nVidia
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| 07:30:15 PM | ajamison5579 | u can use forensics tools to go deeper
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| 07:30:16 PM | GregInTexas | SpinRite says it works with linux file systems as well
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| 07:30:31 PM | ajamison5579 | sometimes they can peace fragements together
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| 07:30:31 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas, SpinRite is NOT data recovery. It is disk error fixing.
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| 07:30:33 PM | Dave-Maydew | yeah, my Desktop PC is an all in one Sony
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| 07:30:38 PM | Garbee | Big difference.
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| 07:30:39 PM | evermind | ok, its newer than the 440 i had half a year ago
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| 07:30:43 PM | chaslinux | SpinRite is good... but clone your drive if you can (if your data is critical).
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| 07:30:45 PM | GregInTexas | thats true, Garbee ...
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| 07:30:46 PM | Garbee | But SpinRite is FS neutral.
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| 07:30:53 PM | agamotto | Spinwrite is excellent, but a bit stiff for most users in price.
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| 07:30:55 PM | OldGuyJim | Ive SpinRite in its various iterations for many years. Excellent piece of software.
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| 07:31:13 PM | Garbee | agamotto, It is WORTH it, especially when used as preventive maintenance.
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| 07:31:21 PM | OldGuyJim | I meant to say Ive used Spinrite...
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| 07:31:38 PM | agamotto | yes, for people who know what they are doing. For the average users... dont know.
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| 07:31:45 PM | Garbee | apparently a new SpinRite is getting geard for release.
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| 07:31:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | Mach 3
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| 07:31:55 PM | OldGuyJim | Spinrite is very user friendly.
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| 07:32:01 PM | Garbee | I recall Mr. Gibson telling that over the past few weeks in SN.
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| 07:32:04 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol RobbieF
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| 07:32:24 PM | evermind | we shouldnt need those missiles
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| 07:32:27 PM | evermind | just sayin...
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| 07:32:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | Are these missiles running Windows or Linux?
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| 07:32:40 PM | agamotto | I would be more impressed by the country that develops the non-lethal gun.
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| 07:32:46 PM | Garbee | Dave-Maydew, Windows most likely.
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| 07:32:52 PM | Garbee | If it is the US Military.
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| 07:32:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | as it crashes lol
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| 07:33:00 PM | OldGuyJim | OS/2 Warp 4
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| 07:33:02 PM | Garbee | I still cant use it though.
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| 07:33:06 PM | Garbee | ^^ Office 15
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| 07:33:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | Oh boy!!
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| 07:33:22 PM | GregInTexas | I used to contract to the military ... no windows, just unix (solaris), linux
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| 07:33:34 PM | agamotto | Garbee- dont think so... most of the DoD is ditching Windows. if memory serves, most naval ships are being moved over to some *nix flavor.
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| 07:33:35 PM | Garbee | Yea, it is so ambitious because they need to make a Metro Interface.
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| 07:34:02 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Yes, "being moved". Not yet fully there. and I know the Air Force is moving to Linux too from Windows.
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| 07:34:14 PM | agamotto | Sic transit Twitter...
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| 07:34:15 PM | Garbee | I am guessing any "new" technology would be Linux based though as far as OS control.
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| 07:34:28 PM | chaslinux | GregInTexas think it depends on the branch of military. I remember a few years ago one navy ship was stuck dead in the water because of some Windows glitch.
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| 07:34:37 PM | GregInTexas | I contracted to the air force 12 years ago ... windows was non-existant ... all unix
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| 07:34:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | Any ideas which way Debian is going with its next release?
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| 07:34:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | GUI wise??
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| 07:34:50 PM | agamotto | chaslinux- Which is why the DoD mandate the changes
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| 07:35:09 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas, The Predator drones were being controlled by Windows PCs, until one crashed and caused the plane to go down... so they switched to Linux within weeks.
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| 07:35:15 PM | Garbee | ^^ That base switched.
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| 07:35:24 PM | OldGuyJim | Guitarplay2000. Did you catch what RobbieF said about Debian?
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| 07:35:42 PM | GregInTexas | I think DoD is now moving primarily to open source ... back in the days I was working with them, they were using Solaris, which was (at the time) not open source
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| 07:35:42 PM | Garbee | Dave-Maydew, Vanilla Gnome 3
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| 07:35:52 PM | agamotto | More GIMP fun?
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| 07:35:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | will they keep compatible??
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| 07:36:07 PM | Dave-Maydew | with older hardware?
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| 07:36:25 PM | Garbee | Dave-Maydew, Depends on how far Gnome 3 comes before Debian releases 7.
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| 07:36:27 PM | agamotto | I doubt it. Depends on what gets defined as viable.
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| 07:36:30 PM | LuiGeek | Hello everyone!--from FL
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| 07:36:40 PM | chaslinux | I used to have a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2... 2 x 200MHz with 2GB RAM... lol old as sin... and slow with Slolaris ;-)
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| 07:36:46 PM | agamotto | trackballs.... they have saved me from all of that fun.
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| 07:36:53 PM | Garbee | As of NOW, in *testing* Gnome-shell can work on older hardware w/o 3d acceleration. It just hasnt been piped into any release yet.
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| 07:37:04 PM | evermind | kinect?
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| 07:37:07 PM | chaslinux | But those 2 x 9.1GB 15K RPM scsi drives were a dream... speedy.
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| 07:37:19 PM | agamotto | What? Taelon virtual glass?
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| 07:37:30 PM | chaslinux | Have you tried it in Linux Robbie?
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| 07:37:50 PM | agamotto | chaslinux- i think he is about to show us
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| 07:38:01 PM | Michaeliowa | yes
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| 07:38:21 PM | chaslinux | Hmmmn..... HUD in the new Ubuntu, speak to your PC.
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| 07:38:23 PM | agamotto | the camera tracks the edging of the hat?
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| 07:38:27 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary is so happy now
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| 07:38:35 PM | evermind | thats pretty nice
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| 07:38:48 PM | evermind | now, if you fast close and open an eye, can that double click?
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| 07:38:48 PM | agamotto | cluck your tongue to click?
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| 07:38:49 PM | evermind | =)
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| 07:38:57 PM | ajamison5579 | Now look at mr frying pan
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| 07:39:04 PM | chaslinux | Now you can get Neck strain Hillary....
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| 07:39:22 PM | Garbee | Firefox 10 I hope.
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| 07:39:27 PM | evermind | youre not looking on the keyboard, are you;)
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| 07:39:37 PM | evermind | nice tech indeed
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| 07:39:41 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary really looks nice on that website
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| 07:39:44 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, this might help my friend Cathy....
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| 07:39:49 PM | Garbee | I can see it easily.
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| 07:39:51 PM | maxwell6307 | will this work on linux?
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| 07:39:56 PM | agamotto | Ah, now I see it on the hat
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| 07:40:08 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, how can she scroll to the bottom of the website without clicking?
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| 07:40:10 PM | GoodGuy | I have a very bad neck, so this would really aggravate the pain
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| 07:40:21 PM | GoodGuy | Looks neat though
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| 07:40:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | So my final question.... whats the best Distro for oldish hardware?
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| 07:40:47 PM | evermind | click with eye...
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| 07:40:56 PM | evermind | that would be a good addon
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| 07:41:13 PM | GregInTexas | an "Easy" button!
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| 07:41:17 PM | Garbee | maxwell6307, Linux is not listed in the supported OSs in the manual.
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| 07:41:21 PM | GoodGuy | Or voice recognition software
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| 07:41:25 PM | Garbee | http://www.naturalpoint.com/smartnav/support/manual/sn-index.html
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| 07:41:28 PM | agamotto | hehhhheheeh
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| 07:41:34 PM | chaslinux | How old Dave-Maydew? Pentium 4 1.6GHz or Pentium II-ish?
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| 07:41:36 PM | maxwell6307 | ok thanks
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| 07:41:48 PM | agamotto | This could be just the thing Cathy could use well
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| 07:42:00 PM | Garbee | Dave-Maydew, LFS.
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| 07:42:01 PM | Dave-Maydew | My Desktop is a P4 3GHz HT with 2GB RAM
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| 07:42:10 PM | Garbee | ^^ Linux From Scratch
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| 07:42:21 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew- Puppy, Debian, Xubuntu
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| 07:42:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | and GeForce FX that works in Ubuntu 10.04
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| 07:42:39 PM | calhydro | Wouldnt it work better if it was attached to empty eyeglass frames just above the nose piece cutting down the gaze angle?
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| 07:42:52 PM | chaslinux | I was using Ubuntu on this Celeron 1.5GHz with 2GB RAM... but 10.04-LTS not 11.10.
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| 07:43:03 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, so, how do you scroll?
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| 07:43:07 PM | evermind | on the eyelid
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| 07:43:09 PM | evermind | =)
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| 07:43:16 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, There is a scrollbar on the right hand side of most windows.
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| 07:43:17 PM | Scorpio55 | Stick with 10.04 for another year lol
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| 07:43:18 PM | agamotto | calhydro- That would work easily for many
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| 07:43:24 PM | Garbee | So you click the down arrow on that.
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| 07:43:27 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, I know, but without clicking
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| 07:43:28 PM | agamotto | Scorpio55- agreed
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| 07:43:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | Im concerned if I go Debian 6.04 when 7 comes out will everything still work?
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| 07:43:50 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, You dont always need to not click to scroll... at first you couldnt. Stop getting pampered.
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| 07:43:55 PM | chaslinux | Fedora 16 worked well too.... but since I use/promote Ubuntu at work and write about Ubuntu I stuck with Ubuntu at home.
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| 07:44:03 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, I just like to ask difficult questions
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| 07:44:06 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew- pretty much, yes. Debian is famous for its stability
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| 07:44:06 PM | evermind | Dave-Maydew, compared to other distributions, debian actually tests it stuff;)
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| 07:44:15 PM | Scorpio55 | Ifaint broke in 10.04 dont try fix it
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| 07:44:32 PM | chaslinux | Scorpio55: agreed.
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| 07:44:39 PM | Dave-Maydew | Scorpio, what happens after April 2013??
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| 07:44:41 PM | evermind | official support for linux, thats a rare one anyways
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| 07:44:43 PM | agamotto | A lot of the changes are tested by a Vorlon I am acquainted with :)
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| 07:44:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | Id like to go GNOME 3
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| 07:44:56 PM | OldGuyJim | Kosh
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| 07:45:09 PM | GregInTexas | dang ... google again
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| 07:45:26 PM | Scorpio55 | maybe better support in future kernels
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| 07:45:31 PM | chaslinux | Id really like to see someone fork Gnome 2 for Ubuntu.
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| 07:45:41 PM | evermind | just let the kernel guys know that theres a device...
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| 07:45:43 PM | agamotto | chaslinux- Linux Mint
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| 07:45:43 PM | Garbee | chaslinux, MATE, already done.
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| 07:45:46 PM | evermind | chances are good
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| 07:46:01 PM | Garbee | There is an unofficial PPA for MATE as well for Ubuntu, but it can be difficult to install.
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| 07:46:16 PM | chaslinux | agamotto... we have hundreds of machines out there with Ubuntu... telling everyone switch to mint is a bad idea.
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| 07:46:35 PM | Garbee | chaslinux, Why?
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| 07:46:38 PM | evermind | pxe, you switch for them;)
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| 07:46:42 PM | Yazid1965 | LOL
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| 07:46:52 PM | GregInTexas | cool beans!!
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| 07:46:56 PM | chaslinux | Garbee : a lot of clients to ask to switch
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| 07:46:58 PM | agamotto | chaslinux- for the moment, it is the least painful way to keep Gnome 2 if you want to keep current. If not, just stick with 10.04
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| 07:47:10 PM | Scorpio55 | unity and G3 are becoming more and more configurable, getting better all the time
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| 07:47:18 PM | evermind | as long as 10.04 is supported, probably the best choice
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| 07:47:20 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you could put it on your forehead like some religious people do
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| 07:47:24 PM | Garbee | chaslinux, Do it slowly.
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| 07:47:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | Id prefer to keep current, but thats me :-)
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| 07:47:33 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- a new kind of bindie?
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| 07:47:36 PM | evermind | you can keep current
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| 07:47:40 PM | robgor | lightsaber
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| 07:47:41 PM | evermind | apt-get is your friend
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| 07:47:49 PM | u-al | contact lenses that did that would be cool
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| 07:47:52 PM | Guest_7015 | Hey Robbie: Got in late, cant stay, do you know about this weeks, Ubuntu Open Week?
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| 07:47:54 PM | Garbee | Go Gentoo if you want current, except massive updates like Gnome 3 take some time.
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| 07:47:55 PM | evermind | just because theres a new number out, doesnt mean, that the old one is outdated
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| 07:47:59 PM | agamotto | I gave up on current with 10.10
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| 07:47:59 PM | evermind | the beauty of gnu
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| 07:48:00 PM | LuiGeek | youll mess up when you go and take a sip
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| 07:48:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | even when Ubuntu 10.04LTS goes??
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| 07:48:17 PM | GregInTexas | I cant get Netbeans to upgrade, but everything else I can get to stay current on 10.04
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| 07:48:27 PM | evermind | well, lts will take a few more years to go
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| 07:48:32 PM | chaslinux | Anyone tried 12.04 yet?
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| 07:48:33 PM | evermind | so you got time to test and test and test again
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| 07:48:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | Popey has tried it
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| 07:48:50 PM | Garbee | chaslinux, I have in a VM, wont make judgment until RC though.
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| 07:48:52 PM | evermind | not me chas,im only doing final
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| 07:49:00 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew- i will try 12.04 LTS... if I find it too irritating, I will most likely move to Mint or Zorin...
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| 07:49:09 PM | Garbee | I bet popey tries each new distro from before even Alpha 1.
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| 07:49:11 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, its the web, you only have to click once
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| 07:49:21 PM | robgor | hey hillary looks like a bobblehead
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| 07:49:22 PM | Michaeliowa | lol
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| 07:49:29 PM | GoodGuy | How about mixing this with Jawbone functionality
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| 07:49:29 PM | evermind | you probably tried to sign in to category5.tv, Hillary
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| 07:49:29 PM | Garbee | Hillary, You can take the hat off.
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| 07:49:34 PM | evermind | same error i had a bit earlier
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| 07:49:37 PM | Scorpio55 | loving some of the new unity lenses and scope
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| 07:49:39 PM | _Jot_ | if there were Hillary category5 bobbleheads, I would win one, Im sure
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| 07:49:47 PM | chaslinux | I was thinking of looking at Bohdi (Ubuntu + Enlightenment).
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| 07:49:51 PM | emiel1976 | chaslinux I am using Xubuntu 12.04
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| 07:50:10 PM | emiel1976 | Runs very good voor an Alpha 1
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| 07:50:15 PM | GoodGuy | Bodhi made a new loaded version with more software
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| 07:50:16 PM | chaslinux | Ooops thats bodhilinux
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| 07:50:16 PM | Garbee | Enlightenment still need work, but is very nice.
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| 07:50:33 PM | evermind | sadly, enlightenment needs work now for many years...
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| 07:50:34 PM | chaslinux | And low resources...
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| 07:50:42 PM | Yazid1965 | Wow! lol
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| 07:50:42 PM | Garbee | Im glad we got the Wiki simplified.
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| 07:50:56 PM | GregInTexas | lol
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| 07:51:02 PM | chaslinux | evermind.... lol we were saying that back in the WindowMaker 5.1 days...lol
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| 07:51:03 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | Does Bohdi have a 64 bit version?
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| 07:51:07 PM | GoodGuy | My life would put you to sleep Hillary :-)
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| 07:51:23 PM | evermind | indeed
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| 07:51:36 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF which distro is the best for compatibility??
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| 07:51:41 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, it is almost 2am, not 3am, does that mean I can watch another show in an hour?
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| 07:51:45 PM | rick34637 | How do I get desktop drapes to work on 11-04
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| 07:51:47 PM | robgor | hey RobbieF you could use the xbox360 kinect in linux, believe a hack is available for linux
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| 07:51:49 PM | keith_heaton_ | robbie do you think you will be able too do you pxe boot epsoid
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| 07:51:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | with Older hardware like GPUs
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| 07:51:59 PM | Garbee | http://wiki.category5.tv ... Check this out too.
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| 07:52:01 PM | Yazid1965 | Should add a section to the show called Hillary rants like Molly rants. :)
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| 07:52:02 PM | calhydro | Robbie: What to you think of the Raspberry Pi | An ARM GNU/Linux box for $25. Take a byte! www.raspberrypi.org/
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| 07:52:15 PM | Guest_7884 | Has this show gone big time or what why was there ads from party poker
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| 07:52:17 PM | GoodGuy | Hak5 just did an episode on that a week or two ago
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| 07:52:18 PM | keith_heaton_ | i had one running
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| 07:52:25 PM | Garbee | Hak5 just had an episode showing to setup a PXE server on Debian.
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| 07:52:28 PM | chaslinux | We use PXE server at work.
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| 07:52:31 PM | Guest_7884 | Is the man taking over?
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| 07:52:33 PM | immaculate | hello first timer here from davenport iowa. how is debian squeeze? Im not a fan of Unity, is it worth it?
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| 07:52:34 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you can do it on Unraid
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| 07:52:38 PM | OldGuyJim | We use PXE boot at work to image computers with KACE. Works great.
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| 07:52:39 PM | chaslinux | For Windows and Linux installs.
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| 07:52:51 PM | GoodGuy | I made a post in the Revision 3 HAK5 forum asking for more info and got some good links
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| 07:52:52 PM | calhydro | Raspberry Pi runs Debian
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| 07:52:58 PM | Garbee | Very...minimal was that segment though.
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| 07:53:02 PM | agamotto | calhydro- I find it funny that the Pi has better gfx ability than the iPhone 4S...
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| 07:53:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | it has??
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| 07:53:30 PM | GoodGuy | That forum post seemed to have more detailed info
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| 07:53:30 PM | agamotto | immaculate- Hello, from Moline
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| 07:53:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | and is cheeeeper
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| 07:53:54 PM | calhydro | Its an amazing littile computer
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| 07:53:56 PM | agamotto | Squeeze is a very secure, stable version of Ubuntu.
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| 07:53:58 PM | emiel1976 | Try Zorin OS. You have Gnome 2 back.
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| 07:54:03 PM | _Jot_ | that Pi is as cheap as one apple accesory
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| 07:54:11 PM | agamotto | Cheaper
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| 07:54:21 PM | Garbee | and learn aptitude!
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| 07:54:30 PM | u-al | Is there a graphic equalizer I can add to Ubuntu 11.10 ?
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| 07:54:31 PM | chaslinux | Think Ill do the Zotac ZBox for XBMC next. Raspberry Pi is awsome looking, but Im guessing a lot of work.
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| 07:54:37 PM | LuiGeek | Love your show!! This is my first time here.--from FL
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| 07:54:45 PM | immaculate | cool cool, Ill check out your blog
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| 07:54:46 PM | GoodGuy | http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41125
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| 07:54:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | trying to talk the wife into buying me a Pi :-)
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| 07:54:48 PM | Garbee | More stuff will be added into the Wiki as well on Debian!
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| 07:54:53 PM | Garbee | Stay tuned there.
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| 07:54:56 PM | emiel1976 | _Jot_ You can buy a lot of Pis for 1 Apple product. lol
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| 07:55:05 PM | GoodGuy | That is the PXE info in that post
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| 07:55:06 PM | agamotto | chaslinux- As long as you dont need to record regular telly, it should be fine.
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| 07:55:13 PM | OldGuyJim | I tried the live CD on my laptop. No wireless driver.
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| 07:55:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | is Vanilla Debian version 7??
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| 07:55:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | or 6?
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| 07:55:40 PM | agamotto | Should be 7 in the next month or so.
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| 07:55:46 PM | OldGuyJim | Excuse I meant the live Debian CD on a laptop and did not get a wireless driver loaded.
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| 07:55:54 PM | Garbee | Dave-Maydew, 6 is squeeze, 7 is something else. I dont think there is a "Vanilla" codenamed version.
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| 07:55:55 PM | jonathon | Rasberry Pi site is down, lot of news about it lately
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| 07:56:22 PM | Garbee | Wheezy is 7.
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| 07:56:29 PM | agamotto | Hillary- ie... too much eye-candy, not enough usability
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| 07:56:33 PM | Dave-Maydew | Unity shouldnt be forced
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| 07:56:52 PM | Garbee | 12.04 will *hopefully* fix all my issues with Multi-monitor.
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| 07:57:02 PM | agamotto | immaculate- You arent a member of QCLUG are you?
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| 07:57:03 PM | Guest_1380 | why change to Debian now when 10.04 is supported for another 2 or 3 yeqars
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| 07:57:08 PM | calhydro | Raspberry Pi was to be available in January its been pushed back
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| 07:57:23 PM | Garbee | sudo apt-get install gnome-shell && sudo apt-get remove --purge unity
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| 07:57:26 PM | emiel1976 | Unity and Gnome-shell are nice for the kids, they love it
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| 07:57:29 PM | keith_heaton_ | i have a fileserver that runs on deb 6.0
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| 07:57:31 PM | robgor | unity sucks for the desktop
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| 07:57:32 PM | agamotto | EOL for 10.04 is 10.12
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| 07:57:32 PM | chaslinux | I like Gnome 3, but still think most people would prefer Gnome 2.
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| 07:57:37 PM | keith_heaton_ | runns great
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| 07:57:45 PM | agamotto | 12.10 that should have been
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| 07:57:48 PM | calhydro | What about the HUD
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| 07:57:49 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, They are forcing it in order to get more feedback on what to fix.
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| 07:57:54 PM | Garbee | That is my theory.
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| 07:57:55 PM | _Jot_ | I think Category5 is much more exciting than any unity
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| 07:57:56 PM | emiel1976 | I changed to Xubuntu
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| 07:57:56 PM | rick34637 | Hey Robbie How do I get desktop drapes to work on 11-04
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| 07:58:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | I may go XfCE
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| 07:58:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | undecided
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| 07:58:12 PM | Garbee | XFCE and LXDE just arent my style.
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| 07:58:13 PM | agamotto | Garbee- ala Windows Vista... heehehehehe
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| 07:58:15 PM | Scorpio55 | Every install of Unity I havedone for new customers they love it
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| 07:58:16 PM | emiel1976 | Xfce 4.8 is great
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| 07:58:22 PM | Garbee | agamotto, No comment.
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| 07:58:38 PM | maxwell6307 | Robbie what is your opinion of KDE?
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| 07:58:44 PM | _Jot_ | Scorpio55, your customers must love windows
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| 07:58:55 PM | Guest_7015 | RobbieF Ubuntu wiki Developer Week, Ubuntu wiki
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| 07:58:56 PM | agamotto | Scorpio55- Even w/o a touchscreen?
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| 07:58:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | Tempus Fugit
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| 07:58:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | ;p;
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| 07:58:59 PM | Garbee | Can I get a time-machine mail-ordered?
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| 07:59:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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| 07:59:10 PM | GregInTexas | I used to use KDE prior to gnome2
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| 07:59:21 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, you are in a time machine, it is called Universe
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| 07:59:22 PM | Yazid1965 | What? Its still Tuesday...Tuesday
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| 07:59:24 PM | GregInTexas | KDE just came out with 4.8
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| 07:59:33 PM | chaslinux | GregInTexas: up to KDE 3.5?
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| 07:59:50 PM | GregInTexas | its been so long, chaslinux, I dont remember the version
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| 07:59:58 PM | Garbee | I am guessing KDE 5 will be based on QT5.
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| 08:00:01 PM | chaslinux | I used to swear by KDE until the 4.x release.
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| 08:00:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | Right guys, I better go, off to the Hospital tomorrow
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| 08:00:07 PM | Yazid1965 | Your letters
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| 08:00:11 PM | GregInTexas | first tried KDE with Caldera ...
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| 08:00:12 PM | _Jot_ | good luck Dave
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| 08:00:19 PM | robgor | great show RobbieF and Hillary :)
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| 08:00:20 PM | jonathon | Scorpio55, unity is a good interface for the casual user
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| 08:00:24 PM | Dave-Maydew | Cheers
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| 08:00:24 PM | Scorpio55 | I am much more productive on Unity and G3 than I ever was on G2 but you need to use it to get used to it
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| 08:00:27 PM | chaslinux | Corel Linux.... lol
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| 08:00:33 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, be careful, youre making yourself dizzy
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| 08:00:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | See you all next week
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| 08:00:37 PM | evermind | what, that was it already?
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| 08:00:39 PM | Garbee | Scorpio55, Yes, getting used to it is the hard part.
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| 08:00:40 PM | evermind | hehehe
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| 08:00:43 PM | agamotto | heheh
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| 08:00:44 PM | GregInTexas | I loved Caldera ...
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| 08:00:47 PM | Garbee | For me, it was even harder getting used to Unity than Gnome 3.
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| 08:00:54 PM | chaslinux | Night all...
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| 08:00:56 PM | gpop7 | Great show. See you next week. same time same station.
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| 08:00:58 PM | Garbee | Im still getting used to it as well.
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| 08:00:59 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | Robbie - what file manager are you using in Debian?
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| 08:01:09 PM | Garbee | Nautilus most likely, it is default in Gnome.
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| 08:01:14 PM | gpop7 | Good night everyone
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| 08:01:15 PM | Garbee | ^^ for file manager.
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| 08:01:52 PM | agamotto | Thunar is easy to use...
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| 08:02:44 PM | Scorpio55 | Check out the ten best Unity lenses on OMGUbuntu
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| 08:03:04 PM | Hillary | Thanks everyone!!!
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| 08:03:12 PM | _Jot_ | youre welcome Hillary
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| 08:03:26 PM | GregInTexas | Great show RobbieF and Hillary .... thanks much!
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| 08:03:37 PM | Hillary | See you guys later! Have a super week!
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| 08:03:57 PM | maxwell6307 | robbieF what is you opinion of KDE?
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| 08:04:02 PM | Michaeliowa | very good show Robbie and Hillary!!
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| 08:05:17 PM | agamotto | immaculate- So, what drew your attention to our little soire?
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| 08:10:10 PM | _Jot_ | Im not immaculate, so Im keeping quiet!
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| 08:10:16 PM | agamotto | hheeheheh
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| 08:10:44 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- How has the van der Sloot conviction been taken at home?
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| 08:10:51 PM | _Jot_ | they who throw the first stone and so on
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| 08:11:39 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, we all think he was punished too leniently, and we hope they will keep him there in a hole in the ground for life, or at least that he gets extradited to guantanamo or one of the other such service sites
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| 08:12:17 PM | agamotto | Perhaps he can be sent somewhere nice, like Siberia...
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| 08:12:23 PM | RobbieF | Thanks all; hpoe you had fun
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| 08:12:25 PM | _Jot_ | unfortunatly, it is likely that eventually he will be returned to the netherlands because of extradition-agreements and so on, and then hell most likely get his sentence converted to something like 50 hours community service
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| 08:12:36 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF, we hope you had fun too
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| 08:12:53 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- As I understand it, he has to serve at least 20 years in Peru...
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| 08:12:54 PM | OldGuyJim | Goodnight folks. Thanks for the info on Debian, RobbieF.
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| 08:13:00 PM | Garbee | Sorry I was 30 minutes late.. had to go up the road and get dog food.
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| 08:13:12 PM | RobbieF | np OldGuyJim
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| 08:13:14 PM | RobbieF | have a great night!
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| 08:13:28 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, 28 years, but only 1/3rd of it actually has to be served normally, and there are extradition-treaties with Peru, which means he can be brought back here to serve his sentence
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| 08:13:35 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- His sugarauntie is now trying to get some of her money back from either him or his lawyer she paid for... hilarious
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| 08:13:49 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Oh, that sucks
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