| 06:59:51 PM | OldGuyJim | Hey...its a day for romance, not politics.
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| 07:00:16 PM | agamotto | Hallo, all
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| 07:00:18 PM | _Jot_ | hi Bekah and agamotto
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| 07:00:41 PM | ajamison5579 | lol My daughter ran off with my 20 ounce gatoraide and refuses to give it back
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| 07:00:48 PM | agamotto | Bekah found someone to watch the kidlets? wow
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| 07:01:04 PM | Brokedcomputer | My fiance is working
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| 07:01:08 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, its called hair, it grows on humans, maybe when you grow up youll have some too
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| 07:01:12 PM | maxwell6307 | single
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| 07:01:13 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Wait until she tastes it....heheheh
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| 07:01:21 PM | Bekah | Hi _Jot_
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| 07:01:24 PM | agamotto | Brokedcomputer- congrats
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| 07:01:26 PM | OldGuyJim | Wedding aniversary in a few days...it is more important.
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| 07:01:27 PM | Bekah | No agamotto no I did not
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| 07:01:28 PM | Bekah | hehe
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| 07:01:30 PM | Brokedcomputer | Thanks
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| 07:01:33 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto she has that is why she will not give it back
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| 07:01:44 PM | Brokedcomputer | Weve been engaged since Nov 11, 2011
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| 07:01:53 PM | agamotto | Ahhh, so Bekah is having to stretch her mommy-vision to participate
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| 07:02:20 PM | agamotto | SuperTux is fun
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| 07:02:38 PM | Trekkie00 | best game ever
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| 07:02:45 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- I would think a kid would find it not sweet enough
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| 07:02:55 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, Christy got lots of weather
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| 07:03:11 PM | ajamison5579 | it is blueberry flavored agamotto and she loves blueberries
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| 07:03:31 PM | RachelXu | yeah messed them up
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| 07:03:36 PM | RachelXu | christy deserves doughnuts too though
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| 07:03:41 PM | _Jot_ | definatly!
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| 07:03:52 PM | agamotto | Nice... I tried some coffee-mug cakes this morning... not so good looking. Recipe was not made for 1300w microwaves...
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| 07:04:09 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Has she had the real thing?
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| 07:04:40 PM | ajamison5579 | yep she does not like real sweet drinks agamotto she loves candy but not sweet drinks
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| 07:04:40 PM | Garbee | Robbie, You have that part functioning?!
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| 07:04:48 PM | ignacio82 | RobbieF. Quick question: I have a Logitech C910 running in ubuntu. The problem is that the maximum resolution that I can select is 640x360. Any idea why I cant set it at 720p?
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| 07:04:52 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- interesting... i was the other way around
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| 07:05:42 PM | Garbee | You can also check the IRCs Topic for the info in writing.
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| 07:05:46 PM | agamotto | ignacio82- because I bet that VGA is the set resolution of the camera, and everthing else is essentially digital zoom.
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| 07:05:48 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, did you work on the new website too?
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| 07:06:16 PM | RachelXu | no i just check it out and tell him if its good or not :)
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| 07:06:43 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, I think she is doing the graphics work, if she does code I do believe it will break everything.
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| 07:06:49 PM | ignacio82 | yep
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| 07:07:05 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, I must ask... What is up with that hair color?
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| 07:07:06 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, Brokedcomputer is watching live for the first time today
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| 07:07:15 PM | RachelXu | Valentines garbeeeeee
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| 07:07:16 PM | ajamison5579 | RachelXu you ought to convince him to let you redo the geek at the computer logo for the new site
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| 07:07:27 PM | RachelXu | i think christa did a great job on that though :)
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| 07:07:29 PM | Brokedcomputer | I think he saw that already, :)
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| 07:07:31 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, I dont have one. :( ... But I do have chatrooms!
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| 07:07:41 PM | Guest_1130 | I remembered again this week to tune in live
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| 07:07:46 PM | agamotto | 5 years, yay
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| 07:07:52 PM | Bekah | ajamison5579 good idea!
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| 07:07:54 PM | Brokedcomputer | I can help with Linux Servers!!! Hahahah, I have 5
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| 07:08:07 PM | Garbee | I can help with Linux servers, just not too much.
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| 07:08:29 PM | ajamison5579 | RachelXu Bekah Christa did a great job but new site new image? Just an idea
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| 07:08:31 PM | agamotto | I can help with replacing Windows with Linux....
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| 07:08:32 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Nice new infomercial!
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| 07:08:48 PM | Garbee | agamotto, And I can help with reversing that.
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| 07:08:51 PM | agamotto | heheeheh
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| 07:09:06 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, got you!
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| 07:09:10 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, Site image? Do you mean logo, background image, what?
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| 07:09:22 PM | SovereignEntity | Can someone tell me how to get the same version of compiz that Robbie used in his Debian install?
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| 07:09:29 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee the Image of the geek at the computer in the green and black
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| 07:09:39 PM | Garbee | SovereignEntity, apt-get install compiz
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| 07:09:44 PM | Garbee | Or check his blog.
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| 07:09:47 PM | Bekah | I like the new cartoon caricatures of everyone
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| 07:10:03 PM | agamotto | Bekah- agrred
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| 07:10:13 PM | agamotto | Agreed, even
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| 07:10:16 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, That would explain why there isnt as much pixilation!
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| 07:10:25 PM | _Jot_ | the cartoon is really great
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| 07:10:27 PM | RachelXu | except he moved the characters so you could see the unfinshed area behind them, what was that about
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| 07:10:29 PM | RachelXu | tsk tsk
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| 07:10:33 PM | RachelXu | :)
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| 07:10:48 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, he added music and camera-angles on my video too, he cant help himself I think
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| 07:11:05 PM | Garbee | http://www.category5.tv/blog/my-debian-installation-goodbye-for-now-ubuntu.php .. Steps on his setup. It tells every package for compiz to install, then later how he customized it.
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| 07:11:14 PM | RachelXu | ah yes i saw your video jot
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| 07:11:20 PM | RachelXu | nice to see some of the viewers out there
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| 07:11:31 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF are you sure you want to get RachelXu surgar high? Then she giggles at the mention of clouds
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| 07:11:35 PM | _Jot_ | youre welcome RachelXu
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| 07:11:41 PM | RachelXu | i had a red bull on the way here
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| 07:11:43 PM | _Jot_ | clouds are fun!
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| 07:11:43 PM | RachelXu | it didnt give me wings
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| 07:11:44 PM | Bekah | _Jot_ I was not expecting you to have a ponytail! :)
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| 07:12:04 PM | _Jot_ | Bekah, cant help it, my hair grows, and its the same with my avatar
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| 07:12:09 PM | Garbee | Bekah, No one was. I didnt think yachts could have them.
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| 07:12:17 PM | _Jot_ | normally its all relaxed and just hanging around
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| 07:12:34 PM | agamotto | I would think that 720p would be reasonable, given bandwidth contstraints...
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| 07:12:41 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, dont forget to mention how much faster it goes with photoshop
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| 07:12:49 PM | RachelXu | reminds me of the guy on youtube that just brushes his hair
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| 07:12:52 PM | RachelXu | and thats it in the video
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| 07:12:56 PM | RachelXu | so random
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| 07:13:06 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- That sounds like a waste of time....
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| 07:13:13 PM | Bekah | RachelXu was it _Jot_? hehe
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| 07:13:18 PM | RachelXu | it is agamotto
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| 07:14:16 PM | pyrosrock | woot RobbieF i managed to make it this week!
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| 07:14:25 PM | agamotto | So, kind of like my 1080p telly that I keep set at 720p for most things, due to the non-optimal signal that most stations put out?
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| 07:14:34 PM | _Jot_ | hey Pyrosrock
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| 07:14:37 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, When you switch to zoom it also doesnt get heavily pixilated! YAY!
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| 07:15:06 PM | Garbee | The main TV in our house is only 1080i
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| 07:15:09 PM | Garbee | :(
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| 07:15:47 PM | agamotto | Garbee- That is ok... there arent too many things in 1080p anyway, besides Blu-ray discs
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| 07:16:10 PM | _Jot_ | monitors mostly have 1080p screens these days
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| 07:16:18 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Yea I have plenty of those and games that actually support 1080p.
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| 07:16:26 PM | Guest_8094 | sit close to rachel !!!
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| 07:16:30 PM | agamotto | Oh, just put some Diane Sawyer paper filters over the camera lenses
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| 07:16:47 PM | ajamison5579 | RachelXu you ought to die your hair pink instead of wearing a wig see how long it takes for RobbieF to tell the difference
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| 07:16:57 PM | Garbee | New cameras, new site coming, new Wiki online... Tons of changes lately.
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| 07:17:21 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Nice. Around here, even most of the OTA is 1080i at best.
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| 07:17:44 PM | agamotto | Spring is in the air...
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| 07:17:53 PM | agamotto | Professor Kidd???
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| 07:18:01 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, in Dutch, you just said Why dont you jump in the air
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| 07:18:19 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Honestly this 27" monitor is 1080p compared to the 50" 1080i TV. I can tell the difference on this monitor than the TV, but sadly I also notice the compression. :(
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| 07:18:27 PM | agamotto | Something like rumspringa?
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| 07:18:42 PM | maxwell6307 | oolder eric
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| 07:18:44 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, Im sure that is EricKidd! He has a sidejob!
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| 07:18:45 PM | OldGuyJim | There are a finite amount of molds for humanity...it is easy to see a non-related twin. Someone told me I have one...poor guy.
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| 07:18:45 PM | agamotto | Garbee- interesting
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| 07:18:47 PM | Garbee | I would need to hear a voice. Erics is hard to replace.
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| 07:19:08 PM | Garbee | agamotto, More interesting... I can tell the delay between me moving my mouse and the cursor moving on screen.
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| 07:19:22 PM | agamotto | Garbee- eeeek
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| 07:19:40 PM | Garbee | Yea, that is why I support touch over a mouse. So much faster navigation.
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| 07:19:52 PM | pyrosrock | i get the same delay on a 42in tv in 1080p
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| 07:20:11 PM | Garbee | Hi pyrosrock, Long time no see.
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| 07:20:23 PM | Garbee | http://cat5.tv/bh
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| 07:20:25 PM | Brokedcomputer | Logitech 1080p Webcam will do 720 fairly well brand new on Ubuntu 11
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| 07:20:34 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- I am still chuckling over the idea of a expurgated Tin Tin. As if there arent people around to explain to kids that we dont do some of those things anymore...
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| 07:20:35 PM | pyrosrock | but no delay on com screem
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| 07:21:07 PM | maxwell6307 | cheap
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| 07:21:09 PM | invinciblemutant | is this a night view cam?
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| 07:21:10 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, yeah, I thought it was pretty funny too
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| 07:21:22 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, The Lifecam Studio?
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| 07:21:34 PM | invinciblemutant | can i use it as cctv? it is IP based or usb?
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| 07:21:38 PM | OldGuyJim | I will follow the link...I am a fan of BH Photo.
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| 07:21:43 PM | invinciblemutant | yea
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| 07:21:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, claymation video! good job!
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| 07:22:00 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, It is USB based only, and no nightview.
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| 07:22:11 PM | invinciblemutant | ic...
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| 07:22:20 PM | invinciblemutant | i am thinking of using it as a cctv cam
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| 07:22:23 PM | invinciblemutant | ..lol
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| 07:22:35 PM | Garbee | You could potentially do some working within Linux to forward the video feed over IP, no idea how to fix nightview though except add some lights. :P
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| 07:22:39 PM | agamotto | 4fps?
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| 07:23:22 PM | ignacio82 | RobieF, If I plug my webcam to a different USB port i can go up to 1080p
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| 07:23:22 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Have you read about the guy on /. who seems to have developed partial UV-vision?
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| 07:23:34 PM | Guest10891 | Why i cannot watch on my iPhone, should I throw it to the ground?
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| 07:23:35 PM | OldGuyJim | Ray Harryhausen would be proud of you.
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| 07:23:43 PM | Garbee | agamotto, No I have not heard that.
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| 07:23:46 PM | Guest_9502 | is that debian?
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| 07:23:49 PM | agamotto | ignacio82- Possibly. USB 2.0 would probably be required
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| 07:23:58 PM | invinciblemutant | i think we need led for nightview
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| 07:24:28 PM | _Jot_ | Guest10891, you could, but then somebody else migth find it and get hurt by it as well, so I wouldnt really do that
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| 07:24:32 PM | Garbee | I love how it lights as it is in use. I realized for some reason Star Trek Online is accessing the webcam....
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| 07:24:40 PM | agamotto | Garbee- He has an implanted lens to correct for his cataract, is now able to see partially into UV.
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| 07:24:52 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, And you got what 5 minutes of video out of that day?
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| 07:24:57 PM | agamotto | invinciblemutant- yes, UV or IR leds
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| 07:25:19 PM | RachelXu | 1 minute garbee
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| 07:25:23 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Ok , so not "developed" but may have gotten it as a side-effect.
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| 07:25:24 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, I watched that movie and it actually makes a lot of sense, if you know how people lived here in europe around that time
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| 07:25:29 PM | RachelXu | cause 24 frames a second takes forever
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| 07:25:35 PM | agamotto | Garbee- yah
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| 07:25:41 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, I would be... Something I cant say in the room.
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| 07:25:44 PM | RachelXu | yeah just dont eat in cookies where nails shoot out of it
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| 07:25:55 PM | pyrosrock | i used to do stopmotion with lego in grade 5 at school with emacs
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| 07:26:00 PM | RachelXu | hehe
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| 07:26:04 PM | _Jot_ | Okay, dont eat cookies from Robbie, check
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| 07:26:07 PM | agamotto | Garbee- still, makes you wonder how the retina could register after the lens being replaced...
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| 07:26:28 PM | Brokedcomputer | Do you know how to setup an Active Directory LDAP server!?
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| 07:26:36 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF u using dovorak yet?
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| 07:26:38 PM | Brokedcomputer | On Ubuntu
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| 07:26:55 PM | invinciblemutant | brokedcomputer, that sounds like a full tutorial
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| 07:27:16 PM | Garbee | Brokedcomputer, I know the Ubuntu Wiki has documentation. Bing for " Ubuntu Active Directory " and see what pops up.
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| 07:27:17 PM | Brokedcomputer | hahaha, that consists of about 10 tutorials, that I have since given up on... :p
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| 07:27:21 PM | agamotto | I bet that could fill up and hour...
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| 07:27:47 PM | _Jot_ | I bet the answer is Yes, I know how to do that... Next question!
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| 07:28:03 PM | RachelXu | good one jot :)
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| 07:28:05 PM | Garbee | Brokedcomputer, Then you should probably read the manuals to the software. :P
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| 07:28:08 PM | Brokedcomputer | Its for a school,
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| 07:28:09 PM | invinciblemutant | NIS
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| 07:28:11 PM | invinciblemutant | NIS+
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| 07:28:11 PM | agamotto | Sharing a printer with Windows can be involved...
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| 07:28:21 PM | Brokedcomputer | I am simply setting it up and managing it over time, very small.
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| 07:28:24 PM | RachelXu | or if your like me bring it to Robbie and say A do it!
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| 07:28:24 PM | Garbee | Turnkey has an LDAP setup?!
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| 07:29:06 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the underlying server?
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| 07:29:09 PM | Brokedcomputer | So does that run on Ubuntu or is that its own distro?
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| 07:29:09 PM | agamotto | interesting way to do LDAP...
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| 07:29:33 PM | Garbee | Brokedcomputer, Custom stack.
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| 07:29:46 PM | agamotto | Brokedcomputer- custom flavor, not sure which
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| 07:29:50 PM | Brokedcomputer | Ahhh
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| 07:30:02 PM | Brokedcomputer | So Turnkey would replace my current Ubuntu setup.
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| 07:30:19 PM | invinciblemutant | i am interested to know what software if i want to apt-get install?
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| 07:30:21 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF Dvorak yet?
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| 07:30:37 PM | agamotto | invinciblemutant- I dont think it is that easy
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| 07:30:40 PM | _Jot_ | This month apple will get a lot less profit since they arent allowed to ship ipads from china anymore
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| 07:30:44 PM | Garbee | Brokedcomputer, actually it is on Ubuntu 10.04.1.... http://www.turnkeylinux.org/core They just add their own repos.
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| 07:31:05 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Yes, if that sticks, I will be very pleased.
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| 07:31:28 PM | Brokedcomputer | Hmmm I may just start over on that server with TurnKey, --- Thanks RobbieF
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| 07:31:30 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, you cant, they keep everything for business interests
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| 07:31:53 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, Yea, it is "deactivated", but I still wont go back to it.
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| 07:31:56 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, let me guess... You watched a star trek movie?
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| 07:32:11 PM | invinciblemutant | agamotto, that is what geeks do
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| 07:32:13 PM | agamotto | I finally watched the GI Joe movie last week. It wasnt as bad as I was expecting.
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| 07:32:27 PM | invinciblemutant | because it is not easy
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| 07:32:31 PM | Garbee | and, actually, in the US if I "delete" it, they are required to remove it from their servers at some point... Which A) There is no real punishment for, but B) is difficult due to the redundancy of their servers.
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| 07:32:45 PM | Brokedcomputer | Hahahahahahha that would be Epic!
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| 07:33:00 PM | Garbee | agamotto, The GI Joe movie just sucked.
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| 07:33:09 PM | Garbee | Really, it had NOTHING to do with GI Joe except the name.
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| 07:33:15 PM | agamotto | Garbee- If I remember correctly, something like 3 months for things to disappear
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| 07:33:20 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, the exception is that if the data is required for business-operations, and so they never have to delete anything
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| 07:33:43 PM | Garbee | agamotto, No, that is what they are planning on. Right now, still not happening. Data 3 years old is still there even though it should be gone.
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| 07:33:53 PM | pyrosrock | agamotto did u know before seing GI joe that ice sinks?
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| 07:33:57 PM | agamotto | Garbee- True, but I was expecting a lot of bad fighting and worse acting.
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| 07:34:01 PM | Garbee | They are planning a network make-over that would allow 3 months for full deletion.
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| 07:34:19 PM | agamotto | pyrosrock- that had me in stitches
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| 07:34:32 PM | Garbee | agamotto, I would debate that last point, the acting was pretty bad. I quit before even half-way through the movie.
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| 07:34:42 PM | agamotto | Garbee- hmmmm, that does change things abit with FB then
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| 07:34:53 PM | Brokedcomputer | May be a bit of a stupid question, but where do I download the core?
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| 07:35:20 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you can buy tribbles in a star trek store, http://store.startrek.com/products/118312-star-trek-interactive-tribble
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| 07:35:27 PM | agamotto | I think we will have to do LEO or lunar assembly before we create anything that can take us to Mars.
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| 07:35:34 PM | Garbee | Yea, agamotto, It all depends on how they re-work their network. But they say if all goes to plan, the network will be able to remove data after 3 months vs the currently unacceptable "years" later.
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| 07:35:47 PM | agamotto | turnkey.org, if memory serves
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| 07:36:03 PM | Garbee | MS was not running that store themselves, it was a 3rd party they contracted to run the site.
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| 07:36:15 PM | Garbee | So, they stupidly outsourced by not requring security through their contractors.
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| 07:36:24 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, if you forget, from tomorrow you can watch the episode again as you know, it has the address and which one to download etc
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| 07:36:28 PM | Garbee | Not 100% MSs fault, but Id go with 60% theirs.
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| 07:37:03 PM | agamotto | Garbee- I might have been suffering from a minor case of beer-goggles.
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| 07:37:14 PM | invinciblemutant | virtuallize with ponky wig
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| 07:37:18 PM | invinciblemutant | pinky wig
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| 07:37:26 PM | Garbee | agamotto, During what?
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| 07:37:35 PM | agamotto | Garbee- GI Joe
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| 07:37:54 PM | Garbee | ah, Yes, probably so. Rewatch it sober and you will see a whole different movie.
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| 07:38:08 PM | agamotto | I am still laughing over the idea that Nortel was open to spies for nearly a decade
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| 07:38:18 PM | Garbee | It was absolute GARBAGE to anyone who knows anything about Gi Joe.
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| 07:38:35 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, thats why I dont bother with any of the remakes
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| 07:38:39 PM | ajamison5579 | has virtual box gotten good enough to run top end windows games from a VM
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| 07:38:50 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, no.
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| 07:39:00 PM | ajamison5579 | then it is useless to me
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| 07:39:06 PM | ajamison5579 | to run windows in a VM
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| 07:39:07 PM | Garbee | They are still "experimenting" with Aero support.
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| 07:39:20 PM | Garbee | I find great uses for Windows in VMs.
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| 07:39:26 PM | ajamison5579 | I just want Skyrim, WoW, SWTOR support
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| 07:39:27 PM | agamotto | I can imagine that Aero would be a hog
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| 07:39:33 PM | Garbee | But you have a slew of other issues to worry about.
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| 07:39:46 PM | Brokedcomputer | What was the address for the game?
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| 07:39:52 PM | invinciblemutant | Robbief, if you have time at the end of the show, is it possible to discuss a bit about SSD card, technology by Sandforce and other controllers, how to choose if i am now on Centrino Duo, which SSD to go for?
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| 07:39:57 PM | agamotto | Skyrim is running under WINE... gold status, if memory serves
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| 07:40:01 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Vista = YES, 7 = not as much but still pretty intensive, 8 Dev Preview = very lightweight actually.
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| 07:40:09 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Correct.
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| 07:40:12 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer cat5.tv/calypso - windows only
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| 07:40:15 PM | Garbee | ^^ on Skyrim in WINE.
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| 07:40:29 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto is that including the Steam version? That is what i use
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| 07:40:48 PM | agamotto | I plan on running it under WINE whenever I get around to buying it.
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| 07:41:00 PM | Brokedcomputer | Thats ok, I have Windows, Linux, and OSX(not installed anywhere at the moment)
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| 07:41:02 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- i am not sure of the Steam version
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| 07:41:11 PM | invinciblemutant | i always have problem with the vbox usb
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| 07:41:17 PM | invinciblemutant | that sucks i think
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| 07:41:20 PM | ajamison5579 | I know SWTOR does not work completely with WINE yet
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| 07:41:28 PM | Guest_9502 | is that debian?
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| 07:41:40 PM | Trekkie00 | @invincible usb 2.0 or 3.0?
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| 07:41:47 PM | invinciblemutant | usb2
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| 07:41:52 PM | agamotto | Guest_9502- is what Debian?
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| 07:41:59 PM | Trekkie00 | extensions installed?
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| 07:42:02 PM | invinciblemutant | oracle requires plugin, but still problematic
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| 07:42:05 PM | Guest_9502 | his os?
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| 07:42:19 PM | Garbee | Guest_9502, Zorin OS is on the demo system.
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| 07:42:24 PM | Garbee | http://zorin-os.com
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| 07:42:30 PM | agamotto | Guest_9502- I think he is still running Zorin on that machine
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| 07:42:31 PM | Guest_9502 | never mind he answered
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| 07:42:37 PM | pyrosrock | usb2 and 3 are a pain undor virtualbox
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| 07:42:43 PM | invinciblemutant | sudo apt-get install php5
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| 07:42:52 PM | Trekkie00 | 2.0 runs fine here
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| 07:42:59 PM | invinciblemutant | not for me here
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| 07:43:01 PM | Trekkie00 | 3.0 i have big problems
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| 07:43:14 PM | AbiAbbyAbi | RachelXu, you look so cute! :D Happy Valentines Day!
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| 07:43:14 PM | invinciblemutant | it never detected usb when plugged in
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| 07:43:24 PM | RachelXu | you too ableegail
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| 07:43:27 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, You need the extra package from their site.
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| 07:43:27 PM | _Jot_ | hey AbiAbbyAbi, nice to see you too
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| 07:43:33 PM | Trekkie00 | you have to mount it in your guest
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| 07:43:36 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF it took me 3 hours to find the www folder lol
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| 07:43:36 PM | Brokedcomputer | But you cannot see her, How do you know how she looks?
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| 07:43:40 PM | Garbee | Then once you plug it in, you need to tell VBox to send that drive to the VM.
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| 07:43:40 PM | invinciblemutant | usb extension right?
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| 07:43:48 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, I have too many eSATA devices to be too concerned about USB 3.0 ATM
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| 07:43:55 PM | Trekkie00 | guest extensions it is called
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| 07:44:00 PM | invinciblemutant | hate oracle, buys everything make them suck
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| 07:44:05 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, no, the Extension Pack... https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
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| 07:44:25 PM | _Jot_ | wow, that password is the same as the code of my luggage!
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| 07:44:32 PM | Garbee | Oracle made VBox better by doing away with 2 versions, keeping it one version then a proprietary extension for extra support.
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| 07:44:42 PM | _Jot_ | oh, and my pincode too by the way
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| 07:44:44 PM | invinciblemutant | i have guestextension and usb extension installed
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| 07:44:45 PM | Trekkie00 | extensions must also be installed in guest os
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| 07:45:04 PM | Garbee | Really, with vbox help, the manual built in is great for support. It is very well written unlike other documentation I have seen.
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| 07:45:11 PM | Trekkie00 | not only installed in vbox
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| 07:45:17 PM | RachelXu | Ill set my password as : ADF892HKNFjkdaf89JF89r9rj3j0arjPF
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| 07:45:23 PM | Brokedcomputer | Heh, I still cannot find where do download an ISO of the Turnkey Linux.
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| 07:45:25 PM | Garbee | Trekkie00, Not necessarily for USB support.
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| 07:45:41 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- Actually, to be a strong password, you need some symbols in there
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| 07:45:43 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, thats a great password! Ill write it down for you in case you forget it, you can ask it and well be able to tell you
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| 07:45:48 PM | Trekkie00 | but would not be a mistake at all @garbee
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| 07:46:26 PM | Garbee | Trekkie00, No real point in installing the additions if you dont need them, especially with certain Linuxs where it can cause issues.
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| 07:46:27 PM | RachelXu | your password must be really interesting then agamotto
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| 07:46:39 PM | RachelXu | i was once hacked
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| 07:46:40 PM | RachelXu | not nice
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| 07:46:42 PM | AbiAbbyAbi | Hello to you as well Jot :)
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| 07:46:45 PM | _Jot_ | for example, pa$$word
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| 07:47:00 PM | RachelXu | person sent everyone i knew nastay stuff and wrote creepy messages from me
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| 07:47:02 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- I can actually state that I dont know what most of my passwords are... I let Keypass generate and keep most of them.
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| 07:47:06 PM | RachelXu | and blocked me out of my email
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| 07:47:14 PM | Brokedcomputer | -RachelXu- Can you help me? I dont know where do download the ISO of Turnkey Linux.
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| 07:47:16 PM | RachelXu | since then im crazier about changing my passwords all the time
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| 07:47:36 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, http://turnkey.org/
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| 07:47:50 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, Haystacking (Invented by Steve Gibson). Make a "key" such as (::) then surround you password with that like, (::)password(::) , It makes it very secure and easy to remember.
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| 07:47:54 PM | Brokedcomputer | Thats the address to the site, I am browsing that, what I need is the page the ISO download link is one
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| 07:47:56 PM | Brokedcomputer | on*
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| 07:48:04 PM | agamotto | Brokedcomputer- Look for the LDAP button
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| 07:48:06 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, No, http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
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| 07:48:08 PM | RachelXu | thanks for the tip garbee
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| 07:48:16 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, what garbee said, I was too fast :)
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| 07:48:37 PM | Garbee | turnkey.org is a completely different thing.
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| 07:48:46 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, the Domain Controller Appliance-button
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| 07:48:47 PM | invinciblemutant | can we allow multiusers?
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| 07:49:04 PM | Brokedcomputer | So the app is installed, can you add other apps to it?
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| 07:49:14 PM | Brokedcomputer | Sorry, this one was completely new to me.
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| 07:49:29 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, it is a linux distribution, so you install it on a computer or a VM
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| 07:49:48 PM | RachelXu | this is when i back away slowly
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| 07:49:48 PM | agamotto | No, you are nowhere NEAR as annoying as Vinnie.
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| 07:49:52 PM | Garbee | Brokedcomputer, You can install whatever you want to it, it is Ubuntu with extra repos and some other custom config by default, that is all.
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| 07:49:59 PM | Brokedcomputer | Yes, I did understand that, but what I mean was, if I install the LDAP app as mentioned above, am I going to be able to install the other apps on it as well?
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| 07:50:00 PM | RachelXu | SHAMWOW
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| 07:50:11 PM | Brokedcomputer | Hmmm, interesting
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| 07:50:19 PM | agamotto | He is one of the reasons I am happy to record most of my telly, then zap out commercials.
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| 07:50:30 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, thanks, now I need to restrain from making some jokes about that guy...
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| 07:50:37 PM | RachelXu | that and forever lazy commercials
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| 07:51:02 PM | agamotto | not familiar
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| 07:51:05 PM | Garbee | I wait for it to hit Hulu or Netflix.
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| 07:51:16 PM | RachelXu | one piece pajamas with butt flaps
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| 07:51:18 PM | _Jot_ | Brokedcomputer, you could use it as a desktop-computer, since its linux, but its mostly meant to run as a stand-alone server
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| 07:51:41 PM | agamotto | Garbee- About the only thing I watch live is this, and Fringe.
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| 07:51:56 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- Union suits?
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| 07:52:01 PM | RachelXu | hehe
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| 07:52:02 PM | Brokedcomputer | I am used to running completely through command thats cool by me. :0
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| 07:52:04 PM | Brokedcomputer | :)
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| 07:52:15 PM | RachelXu | i watch faceoff, movie makeup comp, i like anything art related
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| 07:52:48 PM | agamotto | I have seen Face-off, but not regularly. Interesting ideas
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| 07:53:26 PM | agamotto | Would 64-bit be that much more of a resources hit?
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| 07:53:28 PM | Garbee | Please dont actually open port 80 to the world. Switch it to a port above 1024 to make it a little more secure. and even then, do research before doing that since it really opens you up to security issues.
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| 07:53:47 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Depends, for what?
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| 07:54:03 PM | agamotto | For what Robbie is doing with emulation?
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| 07:54:21 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, who knows why Robbie does anything really
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| 07:54:24 PM | Garbee | agamotto, In the VM? as a guest OS?
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| 07:54:29 PM | agamotto | yah
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| 07:54:34 PM | Garbee | It can be.
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| 07:54:39 PM | Garbee | It all depends on use.
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| 07:54:39 PM | Brokedcomputer | This show needs to be finished so I can rewind... hahahahaha
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| 07:54:48 PM | pyrosrock | agamotto i dont belive that it will use more resorses just more eficently
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| 07:54:57 PM | RachelXu | sorry broked it doesnt get posted till tomorrow
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| 07:55:01 PM | agamotto | interestin
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| 07:55:03 PM | Garbee | You *can* run 64bit in a VM as guest if you really want to and want to dedicate the resources, but 32bit is fine for most things as guest OS.
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| 07:55:05 PM | Brokedcomputer | hahaahah No worries, :)
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| 07:55:16 PM | U-AL | Great demonstration
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| 07:55:38 PM | agamotto | Or just to test out other OS flavors
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| 07:55:44 PM | _Jot_ | I keep watching the hair, I had no idea my monitor could make that colour of pink
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| 07:55:56 PM | Brokedcomputer | hahahahaha Nice Jot
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| 07:56:09 PM | Garbee | Really, unless I am trying to test a real-world enviornment, I dont run 64bit OSes as Guest unless absolutely necessary.
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| 07:56:24 PM | Garbee | 32bit uses much fewer resources so I can run more at once.
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| 07:56:37 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Ok, I just wasnt sure if it would be any advantage under most conditions.
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| 07:56:44 PM | pyrosrock | Brokedcomputer i belive there is a re-run an hour or so after the show but cant gaurantee it RobbieF?
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| 07:57:00 PM | Garbee | Yea, not really any advantages unless you want to test real-world scenarios.
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| 07:57:01 PM | Brokedcomputer | Robbief, if you have time at the end of the show, is it possible to discuss a bit about SSD card, technology by Sandforce and other controllers, how to choose if i am now on Centrino Duo, which SSD to go for?
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| 07:57:23 PM | invinciblemutant | i lik to upgrade to ssd
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| 07:57:32 PM | agamotto | Which chipset is most compatible, speedy?
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| 07:57:34 PM | invinciblemutant | from normal hard drive
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| 07:57:57 PM | smittysmit | I love my Mushkin
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| 07:58:08 PM | invinciblemutant | which controller to go for?
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| 07:58:40 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, I think you are best looking around pcper.com for that kind of info.
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| 07:58:41 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- Ask Robbie Which controller set should he go for?
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| 07:58:48 PM | U-AL | Is it more secure to run in a virtual box?
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| 07:58:56 PM | _Jot_ | what controller changes about once a month
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| 07:59:01 PM | agamotto | U-AL- usually
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| 07:59:04 PM | smittysmit | I pulled my CD drive from my Latitude for a spin drive for backup
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| 07:59:07 PM | Garbee | http://pcper.com -- Great resource for SSDs. One guy even wrote a complete comparison of Controllers and I cant find the post.
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| 07:59:10 PM | invinciblemutant | TRIM command on ubuntu?
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| 07:59:26 PM | agamotto | wow... another reason to keep my old drives for the moment, eh?
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| 07:59:31 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, It is a fstab thing. discard
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| 07:59:36 PM | OldGuyJim | Goodnight all.
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| 07:59:44 PM | ajamison5579 | Newegg has really helpful reviews
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| 07:59:46 PM | ajamison5579 | most times
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| 07:59:48 PM | invinciblemutant | garbee, that is it? read about that though
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| 07:59:54 PM | Garbee | I have had my SSD for like a year now, never used Discard, and my SSD still runs great.
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| 07:59:57 PM | invinciblemutant | thanks robbie
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| 07:59:58 PM | Guest_1130 | nighty everybody hereins
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| 08:00:06 PM | invinciblemutant | good night
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| 08:00:14 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, use those things at the end of your arms
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| 08:00:15 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Really TRIM is built in, using discard just "helps" a ton.
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| 08:00:15 PM | invinciblemutant | thanks rachel
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| 08:00:26 PM | invinciblemutant | thanks garbee
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| 08:00:37 PM | Yazid1965 | good night all
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| 08:00:37 PM | smittysmit | Agree...Newegg has reviews
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| 08:00:40 PM | invinciblemutant | ur mic still on!!!
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| 08:00:41 PM | pyrosrock | goodone
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| 08:00:42 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Your best thing is use the SSD for /boot and /, then move /tmp, /var, and /home off-drive.
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| 08:00:44 PM | agamotto | I thought that with a journaled FS, you didnt need to bother with things like TRIM
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| 08:00:53 PM | invinciblemutant | it is a laptop
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| 08:01:02 PM | invinciblemutant | no room for me to have a 2nd drive
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| 08:01:05 PM | _Jot_ | I bet he does it on purpose in case Rachel goes eat, so he can turn things on quickly again
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| 08:01:05 PM | Garbee | Then use discard only on the / drive, since using it on /boot (at least for me) causes a fail mount on bootup.
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| 08:01:24 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Then you will be wearing that thing out if you write data to it a lot.
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| 08:01:33 PM | agamotto | So much left to learn....
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| 08:01:39 PM | Garbee | oh, and do noatime so it wont record access times as well, saving yet more writes.
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| 08:01:45 PM | RachelXu | yes when im covered in chocolate :)
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| 08:01:50 PM | invinciblemutant | garbee, move /home off drive
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| 08:02:02 PM | invinciblemutant | i thought that /home is written regularly in X
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| 08:02:05 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF dvorak yet?
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| 08:02:15 PM | RobbieF | oh man, I wish.
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| 08:02:19 PM | RobbieF | thanks everyone!
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| 08:02:20 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, I thought you couldnt have 2 drives in the system, how would you move it off?
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| 08:02:20 PM | agamotto | Being covered in chocolate sounds like fun to me :)
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| 08:02:22 PM | _Jot_ | I dont think robbieF can grok dvorak
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| 08:02:55 PM | agamotto | I imagine he could, if he didnt have something like work to interfere.
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| 08:02:56 PM | smittysmit | I missed the beginning of the show. Whats up with the forum? Any mention on the show?
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| 08:02:58 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, I was going to say something like that, but since Rachel was going to get a fork I didnt bother yet
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| 08:03:00 PM | Garbee | ... /home is written regularly too in any form since it is the place for user config files and data storage.
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| 08:03:13 PM | RachelXu | mmmm good cupcake
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| 08:03:16 PM | invinciblemutant | yea, as the current 7200rpc is 320gb, i cant affort a same size ssd, therefore, i have to archive and move off drive my old files
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| 08:03:27 PM | agamotto | I was about 3 weeks before I was comfortable with Dvorak
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| 08:03:34 PM | _Jot_ | I still have lasagna, but it isnt as good as cupcake. Do look out for nails though
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| 08:03:37 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Desktop or Laptop?
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| 08:03:45 PM | invinciblemutant | laptop
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| 08:03:52 PM | Garbee | ah.
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| 08:03:57 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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| 08:03:57 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, so does it taste as good as it looks?
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| 08:03:58 PM | Garbee | So yea, no second drive slot on most of those.
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| 08:04:10 PM | agamotto | Ok, how do you lot fill up a 320Gb drive?
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| 08:04:19 PM | Garbee | Really, just find ways to minimize your writes to the HDD, and brush up on fstab variables.
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| 08:04:29 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, dd /dev/random /dev/sda
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| 08:04:34 PM | RachelXu | none for you!
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| 08:04:35 PM | RobbieF | Thatll be for you guys, later.
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| 08:04:38 PM | RachelXu | and yes yes it does jot
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| 08:04:40 PM | invinciblemutant | lol...i dont know, it grows naturally, i didnt bother to do housekeeping
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| 08:04:47 PM | RobbieF | Check the gallery in a few hours.
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| 08:04:56 PM | pyrosrock | agamotto how dont u i have 5tb in my com at %80 full
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| 08:04:56 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- No, i was thinking more along... what do you have that fills up so much room?
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| 08:05:17 PM | Garbee | Like using cloud music services that you upload to, using cloud document programs (Google Docs if you dont want to use the docs anywhere else or Live Skydrive if you want .doc(x) format stuff), and so on.
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| 08:05:24 PM | _Jot_ | I have 8.76TB with 985GB free
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| 08:05:30 PM | invinciblemutant | i need some performance
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| 08:05:54 PM | invinciblemutant | my laptop is on sata2, the best way to go for ssd is sata3 now
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| 08:06:06 PM | RachelXu | robbie abandoned me tsk tsk
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| 08:06:07 PM | invinciblemutant | in which i can just move it to my future laptop
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| 08:06:15 PM | smittysmit | What about PCI?
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| 08:06:18 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, hes just jealous you have the cupcake and he doesnt
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| 08:06:21 PM | agamotto | Wow. Even my Mythbox fits into 160Gb, and that is with nearly two weeks of recorded programs
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| 08:06:24 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, You will max out that SATA2 bus, even with a SATA2 drive.
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| 08:06:34 PM | RachelXu | yes i dont share :D im evil
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| 08:06:39 PM | Garbee | I push a few hundred gigs, but it is mainly VMs.
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| 08:06:55 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, My dogs dont share either, are they evil?
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| 08:07:09 PM | Garbee | (Im not comparing you to a dog, Im just asking)
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| 08:07:10 PM | invinciblemutant | i have read about ssd with jumper to switch to lower data rate
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| 08:07:15 PM | invinciblemutant | is that true?
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| 08:07:21 PM | agamotto | Garbee- For a heavy user like you, I can see it.
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| 08:07:22 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, It would be stupid if it were.
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| 08:07:28 PM | RachelXu | id have to wonder why you wanted your dogs to share their food with you?
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| 08:07:29 PM | RachelXu | :)
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| 08:07:36 PM | invinciblemutant | fair enough garbee
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| 08:07:39 PM | agamotto | My main box has 250Gb, and with VB, games and other bits, I still have only filled about 90Gb of it
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| 08:07:53 PM | invinciblemutant | yea, vb is the reason for my hdd to grow
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| 08:07:54 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, some harddrives and ssds do have a jumper to switch down from sata3 to sata2, or sata2 to sata1, for motherboards that cant handle the larger speed, most will work without changing anything
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| 08:07:59 PM | Garbee | Yea, the main bottleneck for SSDs at this point is the Bus, but if it cant handle it the SSD auto-adjusts.
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| 08:08:11 PM | pyrosrock | ok... RachelXu where is the galary?
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| 08:08:32 PM | invinciblemutant | _jot_....garbee just said it is stupid, and yet you admit stupidity exists on earth
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| 08:08:36 PM | agamotto | My pets love to share, unfortunately we dont share ideas on what is tasty...
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| 08:08:36 PM | RachelXu | theres a link on the left hand side of cat 5
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| 08:08:39 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Dont use VBox on an SSD, unless you are putting the images on a HDD, so using a desktop.
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| 08:08:54 PM | invinciblemutant | why? Garbee
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| 08:08:56 PM | _Jot_ | the link goes to http://www.category5.tv/photo-gallery.php
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| 08:09:02 PM | Garbee | RachelXu, Not food. Things like my bed, my dog kicks me off some nights.
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| 08:09:03 PM | agamotto | SSD on SATA1??? eeeek
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| 08:09:19 PM | RachelXu | and at the very bottom of the gallery page there is a link to his flickr page which i think has a couple more
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| 08:09:29 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, They add extra stress to the drive. You *can* mark it as being on an SSD, but I am not sure how much that really does.
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| 08:09:56 PM | agamotto | Garbee- My favorite is the need to be in the exact center of the bed.
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| 08:09:58 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, its mostly for motherboards that dont recognize the drive with the faster speed, because that speed didnt exist when the board was made, so I dont think it is stupid
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| 08:10:03 PM | invinciblemutant | garbee, you mean that ssd can take the stress?
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| 08:10:23 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, It is stress of writing to the drive.
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| 08:10:48 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- I dont know about stupid, but wouldnt you be better off with another drive if you had to do that?
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| 08:10:57 PM | pyrosrock | so are the new SSD drives more reliable i knew somone that went through 4 in 12 months
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| 08:11:02 PM | Garbee | By marking it as SSD in Vbox, it manipulates it to the OS as SSD so it will act accordingly, but I am not sure (since I have never tested nor seen numbers) for any real impact that comes from it.
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| 08:11:02 PM | _Jot_ | SSDs wear out, and writing a lot to them wears them out quicker, so since they are expensive, it is a waste of money
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| 08:11:30 PM | _Jot_ | that being said, they say that even with that, they last 10 years or more before they break down, so I dont know how careful you should be with writes to an SSD
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| 08:11:38 PM | invinciblemutant | Jot and garbee, you been hdd handle write stress better or just price matters
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| 08:11:42 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, Yea. Most SSDs are stable, that is why I recommend Intel though since they arent going anywhere and have tons of money to throw at problems.
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| 08:11:55 PM | agamotto | Hmmmm, another reason to hold off until they become more economical
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| 08:12:14 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, What do you mean?
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| 08:12:23 PM | Garbee | Screw economics, this is technology.
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| 08:12:32 PM | _Jot_ | RachelXu, Im glad at least RobbieF brought something to drink for you, or is he just doing that to convince you to share your cupcake?
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| 08:12:47 PM | invinciblemutant | you mean hdds handle write stress better than ssds?
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| 08:12:55 PM | pyrosrock | yep
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| 08:12:57 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Of course they do
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| 08:12:59 PM | RachelXu | yeah that was nice
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| 08:13:04 PM | RachelXu | earlier he was like want something to drink
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| 08:13:04 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Sadly, some of us insist on living within our means :)
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| 08:13:05 PM | RachelXu | i said sure
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| 08:13:12 PM | RachelXu | he said okay go get yourself one before the show
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| 08:13:23 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF post the pic to twitter
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| 08:13:29 PM | Garbee | SSDs have amazing write/read performance, but as far as re-writing over and over again, HDDs all the way.
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| 08:13:43 PM | Garbee | It is just the fundemental property of the technology thus far.
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| 08:14:03 PM | agamotto | RachelXu- Oolong?
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| 08:14:11 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, How old is the system you are planning on upgrading?
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| 08:14:20 PM | invinciblemutant | 4 year old
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| 08:14:31 PM | invinciblemutant | the thing is i love this machine
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| 08:14:35 PM | _Jot_ | Robbie is pointing out: the cupcake is this big (holds fingers apart), why cant you give this part to me? (holds fingers together so they make a square
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| 08:14:36 PM | pyrosrock | start fresh!
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| 08:14:37 PM | invinciblemutant | i like the feel, the keyboard
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| 08:14:43 PM | invinciblemutant | love with it
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| 08:14:47 PM | invinciblemutant | 12.1 inch
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| 08:14:50 PM | Garbee | So at this point you are best off taking the cash you are going to put into an SSD, and moving it over to a new laptop fund. Yea, it wont have an SSD, but it will be newer and much speedier.
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| 08:15:01 PM | Garbee | That is the "ecnomical" choice here.
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| 08:15:08 PM | agamotto | Hmmmm, if it is 4 years old, I dont see how an SSD is going to speed things up much. I can see how it might do wonders for battery life...
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| 08:15:08 PM | Garbee | "economical"*
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| 08:15:26 PM | invinciblemutant | i have the battery upgraded from ebay
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| 08:15:30 PM | invinciblemutant | it last 5 hours
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| 08:15:37 PM | Garbee | agamotto, It WILL speed it up, but the processor is still a big bottleneck at that point, along with GPU (which I belive is Intel integrated junk).
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| 08:15:47 PM | agamotto | ahhh
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| 08:16:00 PM | pyrosrock | and the old slow RAM
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| 08:16:30 PM | invinciblemutant | another thing is that, i am basically withing for a asus transformer type of tablet that Ubuntu Unity runs on...is there any tablet that ubuntu unity runs on?
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| 08:16:41 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you should take pictures now that she isnt aware of anybody and just eating all the nice chocolate
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