| 06:58:02 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas: It is SO worth it for running an Ecommerce Store/website.
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| 06:58:25 PM | Garbee | and that is Canadian dollars, so convert to your standard. Which is about $300 USD now.
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| 06:58:27 PM | GregInTexas | well, I've used joomla/virtue mart ... gotta be better than that
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| 06:58:43 PM | Garbee | I was looking at so many free solutions, hint... THEY ALL SUCK!
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| 06:59:06 PM | Garbee | The main issue I am going to have with Lemonstand is making the Search function built in search the attributes of products as well.
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| 06:59:23 PM | Garbee | It only wants to search descriptions, meta, and a few other details.
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| 06:59:24 PM | GregInTexas | well, joomla is not really free ... by the time you get all the extensions you need, it costs real money
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| 06:59:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello _Jot_
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| 06:59:54 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas: either way, it sucks compared to Lemonstand which is built for Ecommerce, and it is also replacing Drupal as our main site CMS since we are paying for it.
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| 07:00:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Its starting!! Awesome!
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| 07:00:49 PM | Michaeliowa | hi RobbibF and Hillary :)
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| 07:00:50 PM | ajamison5579 | wow so laggy
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| 07:00:52 PM | Garbee | Anyone else getting blotchy video?
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| 07:00:57 PM | _Jot_ | yep
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| 07:00:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes
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| 07:00:59 PM | U-AL | choppy here
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| 07:01:00 PM | pyrosrock | is it honging 4 any one else
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| 07:01:03 PM | _Jot_ | very very laggy
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| 07:01:06 PM | ajamison5579 | it looks like a still frames
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| 07:01:07 PM | GregInTexas | yes
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| 07:01:09 PM | pyrosrock | hanging
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| 07:01:09 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:01:14 PM | GregInTexas | restart
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| 07:01:14 PM | Raffer | same here
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| 07:01:15 PM | Dennis_Kelley | must be the new power!
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| 07:01:15 PM | GregInTexas | reboot
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| 07:01:17 PM | onewanman | yes me to
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| 07:01:18 PM | Garbee | Looks like that i7 having trouble.
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| 07:01:20 PM | Dave_Maydew | I thought it was my PC
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| 07:01:23 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, RobbieF, restarting just means even more love, so cool beans!
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| 07:01:25 PM | GregInTexas | gonna give it a look over, Garbee!
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| 07:01:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Just kidding RobbieF
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| 07:01:30 PM | RobbieF | Gonna fix this; sorry folks
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| 07:01:41 PM | Garbee | The wonders of a live broadcast.
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| 07:01:52 PM | RobbieF | almos tback
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| 07:01:52 PM | maxwell6307 | np robbief
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| 07:01:54 PM | Drumstick | No worries RobbieF
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| 07:01:57 PM | Hillary | stay tuned!
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| 07:02:01 PM | Hillary | its a coming...
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| 07:02:02 PM | agamotto | Hallo all
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| 07:02:03 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF your server was just wanting to do a Stop motion episode
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| 07:02:06 PM | Hillary | the suspence is killer!
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| 07:02:06 PM | evermind | i was thinking it was me doing something wrong
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| 07:02:08 PM | evermind | oki
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| 07:02:13 PM | evermind | tell us whenever youre ready robbie
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| 07:02:17 PM | Garbee | Hillary: I hope it doesn't kill.
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| 07:02:22 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Nice to see that you aren't one of the many in the dark....
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| 07:02:23 PM | pyrosrock | is it up yet?
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| 07:02:25 PM | GregInTexas | do we have to re-hit the link?
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| 07:02:32 PM | GregInTexas | nevermind
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| 07:02:33 PM | G_Dog1985_ | bbl :(
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| 07:02:36 PM | _Jot_ | it's working again
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| 07:02:37 PM | GregInTexas | there they are
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| 07:02:39 PM | ajamison5579 | yeay
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| 07:02:43 PM | Garbee | Ok, the video was NEVER choppy.
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| 07:02:44 PM | _Jot_ | press play, RobbieF
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| 07:02:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | about time!
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| 07:02:51 PM | Garbee | There was NO reboot of the broadcast.
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| 07:03:14 PM | pyrosrock | ugh stupid adds
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| 07:03:20 PM | Michaeliowa | that is better!!
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| 07:03:22 PM | evermind | nothin workin yet for me
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| 07:03:31 PM | _Jot_ | still laggy, but a lot better
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| 07:03:32 PM | pyrosrock | much better
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| 07:03:39 PM | Drumstick | All good here...
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| 07:03:46 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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| 07:03:48 PM | agamotto | So far, so good on my end... what are others experiencing?
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| 07:03:51 PM | evermind | lets test some stream links
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| 07:03:53 PM | as759 | all good here
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| 07:03:54 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief might sound simple but is Windows trying to auto update?
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| 07:03:56 PM | GregInTexas | moouth synced to audio ... thats good
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| 07:04:07 PM | GregInTexas | or was ..
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| 07:04:16 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its so much better when a Canadian says 'Out'
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| 07:04:20 PM | _Jot_ | hi people I didn't say hello to yet
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| 07:04:30 PM | GregInTexas | goodness
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| 07:04:39 PM | agamotto | Ok, hand waving was a bit choppy here
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| 07:04:39 PM | evermind | ok, maybe it works in chrome
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| 07:04:45 PM | JVSCC | Oh well can watch Burn Notice while I wait...
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| 07:05:15 PM | Garbee | Hillary: You look so drab.
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| 07:05:26 PM | _Jot_ | Maybe RobbieF and Hillary can do the show from the BSP-camera, that isn't choppy
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| 07:05:32 PM | Michaeliowa | Robbie are you running windows 98? LOL
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| 07:05:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am Sorry RobbieF must be me watching the show tonight!
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| 07:05:35 PM | jonathon | Can't load live page.
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| 07:05:37 PM | Garbee | A real professional, Drab behind the seens, Happy go lucky on the film.
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| 07:05:37 PM | agamotto | ewwww
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| 07:05:40 PM | Hillary | I think you mean FAB!
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| 07:05:49 PM | evermind | none of the live streams are working
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| 07:05:52 PM | evermind | i guess ill watch tomorrow
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| 07:05:53 PM | Garbee | Hillary: That goes without saying.
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| 07:06:01 PM | ajamison5579 | better
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| 07:06:03 PM | _Jot_ | it's great RobbieF, keep it that way
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| 07:06:10 PM | agamotto | evermind- yes, they are testing things... something must be up
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| 07:06:12 PM | GregInTexas | gone again
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| 07:06:13 PM | Hillary | I'm in the zone, trying to focus on the sitch, with great concern.
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| 07:06:22 PM | agamotto | Hrm... that was fine
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| 07:06:30 PM | GregInTexas | sitch?
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| 07:06:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Nice view of his hand!
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| 07:06:38 PM | Garbee | There ya go RobbieF !
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| 07:06:39 PM | agamotto | Looks good here
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| 07:06:41 PM | _Jot_ | we don't want to talk to the hand, not to the face RobbieF
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| 07:06:52 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:06:56 PM | jonathon | live.cat5.tv contains content from sup01port.rr.nu, a site known to distribute malware. Your computer might catch a virus if you visit this site.
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| 07:06:57 PM | agamotto | Split the difference and settle for 24fps
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| 07:07:01 PM | GregInTexas | um ... it's the sitch again?
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| 07:07:01 PM | Drumstick | Just give us what you got RobbieF It's cool
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| 07:07:07 PM | Garbee | jonathon: Where are you getting that from?
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| 07:07:25 PM | jonathon | Site hacked?? Google Chrome warning.
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| 07:07:26 PM | maxwell6307 | not if your a linux user
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| 07:07:30 PM | evermind | robbie got xss'd?
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| 07:07:30 PM | JVSCC | That's known as a Technical Wave , ya'll
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| 07:07:34 PM | Garbee | jonathon: There was an issue over the weekend.
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| 07:07:45 PM | Garbee | Thanks for letting me know, I will get with Robbie about it.
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| 07:07:59 PM | jonathon | Might still be on Google's list.
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| 07:08:08 PM | onewanman | no live stream
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| 07:08:09 PM | jonathon | It can take a while.
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| 07:08:10 PM | agamotto | The only issue I had this weekend was my dog eating and rolling around in something dead and fermented Saturday afternoon.
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| 07:08:17 PM | GregInTexas | I'm using chromium ... no warning
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| 07:08:25 PM | Hillary | go time
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| 07:08:33 PM | _Jot_ | live streams are working
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| 07:08:47 PM | Yazid1965 | cool beans
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| 07:08:48 PM | Garbee | jonathon: Better let him know so it can get checked out. There was a serious hack over the weekend.
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| 07:08:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Much Better! Thanks RobbieF!
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| 07:08:56 PM | agamotto | Ok, some chop, but nothing bad
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| 07:09:03 PM | agamotto | Keep going, we are a tolerant bunch
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| 07:09:04 PM | as759 | it's fine here
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| 07:09:10 PM | Dave_Maydew | The joys of Live TV :-)
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| 07:09:12 PM | GregInTexas | mine's not back at all
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| 07:09:20 PM | Garbee | Robbie, Because it is so cold down here in the US.
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| 07:09:21 PM | Drumstick | Ok here...
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| 07:09:21 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Drop it to ~20fps?
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| 07:09:23 PM | chrisreich | all is well here in Rochester New York
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| 07:09:24 PM | Garbee | The cables are sick.
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| 07:09:27 PM | Guest_8914 | looks good in Kentucky! No lags.
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| 07:09:31 PM | onewanman | it isgood forme
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| 07:09:36 PM | _Jot_ | it went down again
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| 07:09:38 PM | JVSCC | Hey Hill can just use sign language...?
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| 07:09:40 PM | Garbee | It is bearable for me.
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| 07:09:44 PM | GregInTexas | what are y'all on ... justin tv is dead
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| 07:09:48 PM | _Jot_ | fortunatly it's just partially
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| 07:09:54 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas: Having issues.
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| 07:09:59 PM | Garbee | use live.cat5.tv
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| 07:10:00 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- Really, justin has been doing fine for me
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| 07:10:00 PM | Hillary | haha i could, but it still could be choppy.
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| 07:10:09 PM | Dave_Maydew | Justin is working
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| 07:10:18 PM | Drumstick | live.cat5.tv works for me.
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| 07:10:26 PM | GregInTexas | maybe I need to reload
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| 07:10:35 PM | Garbee | and be cautious of any malware warnings that may show up, there was a hack over the weekend so things may still be lingering within systems everywhere.
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| 07:10:40 PM | evermind | live.cat5.tv gives me a nice yellowish white nothin
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| 07:10:45 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- My parents are wandering around Texas on vacation... i think they were taking in NASA around the Galveston area today
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| 07:10:50 PM | Drumstick | ...it's even offering me free cable tv...oh wait, that's an ad LOL\
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| 07:11:04 PM | invinciblemutant | dropped again
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| 07:11:07 PM | Garbee | I'm going to heat up some pizza, brb.
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| 07:11:08 PM | GregInTexas | that's awesome ... 7 hours from me though
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| 07:11:23 PM | GregInTexas | gotta pack a lunch to get to most places in Texas
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| 07:11:26 PM | onewanman | down for me 2
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| 07:11:32 PM | JVSCC | This was similar issue last time, when I clicked on link from main page to watch show, it came up blank, I had to select from the drop down link?
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| 07:11:32 PM | agamotto | They plan on wandering their way to the Lubbock area sometime this week
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| 07:11:52 PM | GregInTexas | ah ... that's cool, they'll probably come through here
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| 07:11:57 PM | GregInTexas | or close to here
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| 07:12:14 PM | Drumstick | (waving too)
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| 07:12:16 PM | GregInTexas | Lubbock is the high plains
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| 07:12:16 PM | Raffer | there
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| 07:12:20 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- Visiting a cousin in Slayton(?) on the way to Arizona
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| 07:12:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | is that a techno wave?
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| 07:12:33 PM | JVSCC | Makes for some gued Kung Fu action
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| 07:12:34 PM | maxwell6307 | lol
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| 07:12:36 PM | GregInTexas | cool ... everyone's down here!
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| 07:13:05 PM | RobbieF | The joys of LIVE! :) hehe
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| 07:13:08 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Sure it isn't that MP that wants to see everything you Canadians are doing on the internet?
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| 07:13:09 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I have a question, what kind of sticking material should I use for sticking it out? Tape, glue, or what have you, and what kind?
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| 07:13:30 PM | GregInTexas | woops ... I got the malware warning that time
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| 07:13:30 PM | JVSCC | Justin.tv is working here....
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| 07:13:36 PM | Garbee | Jot, Glue.
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| 07:13:38 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Rubber cement, applied liberally to your bottom and the nearest chair
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| 07:13:48 PM | GregInTexas | trying to click on justintv I got the malware thingy
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| 07:13:54 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- odd
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| 07:14:02 PM | Drumstick | Still up here...
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| 07:14:10 PM | GregInTexas | yea ... I exited and went with backstage pass
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| 07:14:17 PM | eclipse2 | whoa de ja vu
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| 07:14:18 PM | pyrosrock | im getting the intro
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| 07:14:21 PM | Drumstick | RobbieF: the perfectionist.....such a guy!!
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| 07:14:22 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- i didn't get any warnings with Firefox
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| 07:14:22 PM | jonathon | Had it for a moment...
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| 07:14:26 PM | Yazid1965 | beans that are cool :)
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| 07:14:35 PM | jonathon | Justin.tv is working
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| 07:14:35 PM | evermind | ok, in windows vm it works
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| 07:14:36 PM | evermind | odd
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| 07:14:42 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its funning when you are running linux you do not get the Malware thingy
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| 07:14:45 PM | JVSCC | a bit of a lag here
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| 07:14:49 PM | GregInTexas | I'm using chromium ... I have about 120 tabs open in FF ... don't need any more
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| 07:14:51 PM | U-AL | audio and video ok
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| 07:15:04 PM | ajamison5579 | Best show on Earth! I want the Best show on Mars! dang it
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| 07:15:06 PM | GregInTexas | no audio with BSP ?
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| 07:15:20 PM | Drumstick | Working well here...
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| 07:15:29 PM | jonathon | Running Ubuntu with Chrome and got the malware warning.
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| 07:15:34 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, you're supposed to watch them with the 3d glasses that RobbieF send to everybody last week
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| 07:15:35 PM | U-AL | oh was that a recording
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| 07:15:38 PM | JVSCC | The Best Show in the Uverse is NoAgenda
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| 07:15:47 PM | Garbee | Gee... I wonder what caused this topic..
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| 07:15:57 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'm about to build a server
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| 07:16:00 PM | jonathon | Now watching Justin.tv using FF.
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| 07:16:00 PM | U-AL | no audio and video
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| 07:16:02 PM | Garbee | This is making me laugh.
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| 07:16:24 PM | pyrosrock | that would be so cool if it was broardcasted in 3d
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| 07:16:27 PM | agamotto | weather...
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| 07:16:37 PM | GregInTexas | I had to click the very first live.cat5.tv link ... no others working right
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| 07:16:43 PM | Garbee | Hillary: That is what happens when Robbie has a show around dinner time.
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| 07:16:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | for sure weather
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| 07:16:53 PM | Yazid1965 | i'm hungry now
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| 07:16:54 PM | pyrosrock | but id rather higher quality
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| 07:16:58 PM | JVSCC | Just ate, Chicken, smashed potatoes n gravey
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| 07:17:04 PM | _Jot_ | I had soup, just to make sure I wouldn't be hungry
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| 07:17:09 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'm eating a bag of crisps
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| 07:17:10 PM | agamotto | I won't tease you with what the cat, dog, and I are having for dinner tonight...
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| 07:17:17 PM | invinciblemutant | there is something written on robbie's back
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| 07:17:31 PM | _Jot_ | Robbie's shirt says Del Mar 1982
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| 07:17:40 PM | robgor | food, hmm lunch time for me in 40 minutes
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| 07:17:43 PM | agamotto | ooo, vintage
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| 07:17:45 PM | agamotto | hehehe
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| 07:17:58 PM | pyrosrock | woo add break
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| 07:18:01 PM | GregInTexas | doesn't everybody have a shirt that says Del Mar 1982 ?
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| 07:18:10 PM | JVSCC | And now for the money break
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| 07:18:16 PM | maxwell6307 | umm donuts lol
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| 07:18:23 PM | Drumstick | You can see that tree so weeelll..... lol
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| 07:18:24 PM | T0B33 | Yay it works :D Sorry for been silent guys my netbook was giving me issues -.- all i heard was T0B33 lol
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| 07:18:30 PM | agamotto | Yes, but at least there aren't 20 minutes worth in this program
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| 07:18:34 PM | GregInTexas | yea .. I tend to crash skiing backwards ...
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| 07:18:36 PM | _Jot_ | whenever I watch that add, I wonder if they will crash into the tree this time
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| 07:19:04 PM | _Jot_ | T0B33, you'll be able to watch it again and again tomorrow and in the future :)
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| 07:19:04 PM | JVSCC | Again?
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| 07:19:17 PM | jonathon | Leaving Dreamhost?
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| 07:19:29 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Could I ship you a package to that box you have for Cat5 snail-mail?
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| 07:19:42 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, I think you can
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| 07:19:57 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, I think they will put a card in it, saying 'Please pick up a package at the counter'
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| 07:20:00 PM | T0B33 | I'll probably re watch this again on youtube later my netbook is damaged i thought it was sorted lol but works now :)
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| 07:20:05 PM | Garbee | Jot, it will just contain air from Virginia.
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| 07:20:13 PM | GregInTexas | I can't cut and paste off the video ...
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| 07:20:22 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, you could put the air in a can and then send it that way
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| 07:20:23 PM | Garbee | Sending the pollution up north, making a better atmosphere down in the US!
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| 07:20:43 PM | GregInTexas | L4N 747 ? sounds like a flight ...
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| 07:20:44 PM | agamotto | I have a zen garden with sand from 14 different countries...
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| 07:20:49 PM | Dave_Maydew | the better website??
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| 07:20:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | or BETA website??
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| 07:20:59 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF just from where we live or from hollidays as well?
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| 07:21:00 PM | Garbee | Dave_Maydew: Both.
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| 07:21:08 PM | Dave_Maydew | ;-)
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| 07:21:10 PM | agamotto | betta butter for betas!
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| 07:21:10 PM | chrisreich | DRINK! Robbie mispronounced "Beta" again - twice
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| 07:21:10 PM | JVSCC | Beata
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| 07:21:16 PM | chrisreich | three times
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| 07:21:19 PM | GregInTexas | I'll do it ... why not?
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| 07:21:21 PM | agamotto | Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts?
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| 07:21:22 PM | invinciblemutant | have you sent me the info robbie?
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| 07:21:23 PM | Dave_Maydew | we say Beeeta
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| 07:21:35 PM | _Jot_ | Beta is greek so Robbie says it properly
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| 07:21:40 PM | invinciblemutant | i think i have sent v3 beta to the email
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| 07:21:57 PM | Garbee | Air for sure!
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| 07:21:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Beer!
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| 07:21:59 PM | agamotto | Just make sure to fill out the customs forms
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| 07:22:03 PM | invinciblemutant | i did it last week
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| 07:22:05 PM | GregInTexas | beer!
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| 07:22:05 PM | smittysmit | A frozen fish
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| 07:22:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Beer!
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| 07:22:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Beer!
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| 07:22:19 PM | Michaeliowa | hi
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| 07:22:20 PM | agamotto | I tried to send ice cream, takes to long to get there from Toronto... sniff
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| 07:22:30 PM | Garbee | No beer. I can't buy that, nor would send it across nation lines.
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| 07:22:34 PM | invinciblemutant | cat5 gang
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| 07:22:46 PM | GregInTexas | awww ... no beer
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| 07:23:01 PM | Garbee | Shouldn't that be at the bottom of the pile?
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| 07:23:09 PM | Garbee | I am confused as to how this show works now.
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| 07:23:13 PM | _Jot_ | but you're very important Garbee
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| 07:23:14 PM | pyrosrock | Gorbee why cant u buy it?
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| 07:23:28 PM | agamotto | He hasn't hit 21 yet
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| 07:23:39 PM | chrisreich | I once transported a frozen turkey to Africa. It arrived frozen. We knew what we were doing.
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| 07:23:40 PM | invinciblemutant | sounds like boeing 777
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| 07:23:41 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock: I am only 19. Need to be 21 in america to buy alchohol.
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| 07:23:41 PM | GregInTexas | chmod 666 markofthebeast.com
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| 07:23:44 PM | pyrosrock | oh its 18 here
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| 07:23:58 PM | invinciblemutant | aeroplane
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| 07:23:59 PM | pyrosrock | lololol
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| 07:24:01 PM | Garbee | I don't drink alchohol anyways.
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| 07:24:14 PM | agamotto | I got into trouble once trying to bring Ginger Ale in from Vancouver...
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| 07:24:45 PM | agamotto | For some reason, the border guards (US) were sure it was alcoholic.
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| 07:24:50 PM | invinciblemutant | how do you remember this? robbie...
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| 07:25:02 PM | Garbee | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod ... For more information about numbers and permissions for those interested.
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| 07:25:06 PM | JVSCC | Just look it up from the "Book of Knowledge"
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| 07:25:15 PM | agamotto | or the 'man' page
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| 07:25:23 PM | eclipse2 | learn to count to 7 in binary and it will make sense
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| 07:25:24 PM | evermind | i cant believe this, you got robbie to explain filesys perms
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| 07:25:27 PM | evermind | hehehe, good work
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| 07:25:27 PM | JVSCC | Su root
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| 07:25:40 PM | Garbee | Kick my month away...
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| 07:25:43 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF what is it mean when its like 66x?
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| 07:25:47 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF, can you have a permission of "1" so that you could execute while NOT having permission to read?
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| 07:25:48 PM | agamotto | And of course, 666 gives them access to the anti-christ developer build ;)
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| 07:25:56 PM | evermind | 66 is read owner and read group
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| 07:26:15 PM | evermind | yah, read and write
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| 07:26:23 PM | Garbee | aw, found my error.
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| 07:26:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hillary are you lost?
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| 07:26:25 PM | invinciblemutant | for me, memorise so: read from (four), write to (two), execute once (one)
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| 07:26:34 PM | Dave_Maydew | RobbieF and to all, I'm building a media centre PC, and I was wondering which distro is the best to use? I also want to browse the web, email and play my WarZone 2100 also
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| 07:26:39 PM | Hillary | indeed.
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| 07:26:40 PM | Garbee | I was giving others no permissions.
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| 07:26:45 PM | evermind | robbie, just to complete that one, whats +s?
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| 07:27:17 PM | Garbee | Maybe by upping that to 4 it will fix the functions the next time I make the system.
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| 07:27:17 PM | GregInTexas | don't make apache www-data ... change it to something else
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| 07:27:23 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Will you be recording live telly via Freesat, OTA, or terrestrial cable?
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| 07:27:34 PM | evermind | shouldnt be root;)
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| 07:27:43 PM | invinciblemutant | apache should be the best user
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| 07:27:46 PM | evermind | aight,, ill let him explain
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| 07:27:49 PM | evermind | apache neither
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| 07:27:52 PM | evermind | in your apache.conf
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| 07:27:56 PM | Garbee | I am a vhost, so everything under my area is mine unless my web host makes it.
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| 07:27:58 PM | evermind | you find the user that your scripts should have
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| 07:28:07 PM | Garbee | So I automatically own everything I install.
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| 07:28:10 PM | evermind | on most debian-based distris its www-data
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| 07:28:15 PM | GregInTexas | normal shared hosting, Garbee?
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| 07:28:17 PM | evermind | some do nobody:nogroup
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| 07:28:20 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...www-data
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| 07:28:39 PM | Garbee | I think Robbie enjoys talking about Web stuff all thet ime.
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| 07:28:40 PM | invinciblemutant | how come it is root on robbie machine, that isnt the default i reckon
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| 07:28:40 PM | JVSCC | grep-skie
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| 07:28:42 PM | Garbee | all the time*
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| 07:29:06 PM | evermind | you can also make the owner youruser
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| 07:29:06 PM | evermind | and the group www-data
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| 07:29:06 PM | evermind | that way ftp uploads will work
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| 07:29:06 PM | evermind | ;)
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| 07:29:07 PM | agamotto | invinciblemutant- On a server, I would think it would be 'root' most of the time
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| 07:29:24 PM | evermind | saying that, wanna add to your ftpd chown group to www-data
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| 07:29:36 PM | Garbee | evermind: That may have just solved an issue I am having using Drupal on my local boxes!
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| 07:29:45 PM | GregInTexas | except in your apache2.conf, change the www-data to something non-standard
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| 07:29:57 PM | GregInTexas | but if your are on shared hosting, you may not have a choice
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| 07:30:14 PM | agamotto | 747?
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| 07:30:18 PM | evermind | if youre on shared hosting, chowning might be out of your scope
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| 07:30:25 PM | evermind | thats usually the point where you call their admin
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| 07:30:27 PM | pyrosrock | what does the x mean in permissions?
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| 07:30:28 PM | Garbee | Robbie, You fixed it just explaining the numbering at the start, but the extra stuff helps as well with some other stuff.
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| 07:30:29 PM | GregInTexas | right evermind
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| 07:30:30 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie, can you explain sometimes we can specify 0777
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| 07:30:33 PM | Garbee | Thanks.
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| 07:30:34 PM | invinciblemutant | 4 digits
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| 07:30:36 PM | agamotto | xecute
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| 07:30:48 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, because it is octal, and the 0 indicates octal numbering
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| 07:30:48 PM | Garbee | Now to setup another dev enviornment for the 8th time!
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| 07:31:02 PM | Garbee | That will wait for a while though.
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| 07:31:10 PM | evermind | pyros, x is execute
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| 07:31:12 PM | Dave_Maydew | No PVR
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| 07:31:12 PM | evermind | like r is read
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| 07:31:13 PM | agamotto | I am so glad I don't have to play with that stuff often
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| 07:31:16 PM | evermind | and w write
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| 07:31:20 PM | evermind | nother way to write it
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| 07:31:26 PM | Hillary | yes agamotto? lol
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| 07:31:28 PM | Dave_Maydew | I have Sky+ HD :-)
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| 07:31:31 PM | evermind | and in your listing its like this:
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| 07:31:39 PM | robgor | xbmc
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| 07:31:47 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Do you plan on recording much from your Sky box?
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| 07:31:52 PM | Scorpio55 | A new MythTV spinoff is on the cards
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| 07:31:55 PM | invinciblemutant | that is in UK i reckon
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| 07:31:56 PM | evermind | userxuserwuserr-groupxgroupwgroupr-anyonexanyonewanyoner
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| 07:32:16 PM | agamotto | XBMC does not record telly ATM
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| 07:32:16 PM | robgor | or get a boxee box
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| 07:32:19 PM | Dave_Maydew | No recording from the Sky box as it's a media Satellite box
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| 07:32:21 PM | Garbee | Boxee was good, until they stopped Developing the desktop versions in order to focus on their Boxee-Box.
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| 07:32:23 PM | GregInTexas | ubuntu tv ?
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| 07:32:24 PM | Dave_Maydew | runs BusyBox
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| 07:32:25 PM | agamotto | neither does Boxee
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| 07:32:37 PM | evermind | GregInTexas, im waiting for ubuntu tv
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| 07:32:38 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas: Still beta software I believe.
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| 07:32:43 PM | evermind | definitely something im gonna try
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| 07:32:47 PM | invinciblemutant | i will look at it later
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| 07:32:50 PM | Garbee | I havn't tested Ubuntu TV yet though.
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| 07:32:57 PM | evermind | btw, most media center soft is beta
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| 07:32:57 PM | Dave_Maydew | P4 641 3.2GHz HT
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| 07:33:01 PM | RavenLords | hello every one
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| 07:33:07 PM | GregInTexas | I think they're gonna make ubuntu available on the android desktop thingy also
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| 07:33:10 PM | Dave_Maydew | I shall let you know :-)
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| 07:33:25 PM | Dave_Maydew | Cheers RobbieF
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| 07:33:37 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- you might be able to... you could use an IR blaster to change the channel on the Sky box... connect it to the HTPC via 3-color out, if the Sky box offers that output. If you are really lucky, HDMI.
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| 07:33:39 PM | RavenLords | hello Robbief
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| 07:33:57 PM | evermind | btw, another interresting take on file perms, check out "chattr"
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| 07:34:09 PM | evermind | chattr +i filename is a nice way to "freeze changes"
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| 07:34:27 PM | evermind | i.e. helps with a customized resolv.conf
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| 07:35:08 PM | Garbee | What CMS does everyone like?
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| 07:35:25 PM | evermind | Garbee, a cms that works
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| 07:35:26 PM | evermind | joke aside
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| 07:35:28 PM | GregInTexas | I've looked at several Garbee
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| 07:35:28 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Otherwise, if recording telly isn't a priority, then XBMC can be very nice
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| 07:35:29 PM | evermind | i do like typo3
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| 07:35:54 PM | Garbee | Typo3 is on my list to look at closer, just seems like so much work to get going.
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| 07:35:55 PM | GregInTexas | modx is interesting
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| 07:35:57 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Mythbuntu would be a bit overpowered if you aren't planning on recording telly.
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| 07:36:27 PM | evermind | interresting q
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| 07:36:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | not bothered about recording TV as the Satellite receiver has 1TB drive
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| 07:37:06 PM | Garbee | 12GB RAM is very small when I run VM's the way I want.
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| 07:37:15 PM | Garbee | I need 24GB to run them the way I want.
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| 07:37:32 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- In that case, try XBMC... You wouldn't be using about 40% of what is in Mythbuntu
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| 07:37:38 PM | GregInTexas | on my web server I've used 32gig for a long time
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| 07:37:41 PM | evermind | works kinda ok though, for my two vms on it
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| 07:37:43 PM | evermind | test setup
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| 07:37:52 PM | evermind | a deb webserver doesnt need much
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| 07:38:06 PM | Garbee | VMWare has a tool, but I have found it buggy.
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| 07:38:14 PM | GregInTexas | lol ... apache sucks up 10mb with every new connection
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| 07:38:18 PM | evermind | +1 for vmware converter
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| 07:38:22 PM | ajamison5579 | If it is windows there is a tool to convert it to a VM
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| 07:38:35 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Just make sure that you have a nVidia 2xx level gfx card output to make 1080p smooth and silky.
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| 07:38:38 PM | evermind | if you want virtualbox, you can always convert to vdi afterwards
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| 07:38:55 PM | agamotto | One of my favorite backup tools
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| 07:38:58 PM | Dave_Maydew | The PC is a 3yr old Packard Bell iStart 2380 series with a P4 3.2GHz 64Bit CPU, 160Gb SATA HDD at present, but adding a 500Gb SATA soon, 2Gb RAM and a ATI Radeon T1100
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| 07:38:59 PM | Garbee | http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/ ... If you want to give VMWare a try, it is free too.
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| 07:39:09 PM | gpop7 | clonzilla for virtual machine
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| 07:39:09 PM | agamotto | It has replaced Acronis True Image for me
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| 07:39:16 PM | Garbee | Only for Windows machines I think though.
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| 07:39:22 PM | Garbee | oh, and Linux it says.
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| 07:39:24 PM | evermind | garbee
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| 07:39:34 PM | evermind | yah, on the other hand, doing an image of linux is simple
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| 07:39:37 PM | Dave_Maydew | I was given the machine as my wifes friend said it wasn't booting... it was running VISTA
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| 07:39:41 PM | evermind | dd --help
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| 07:39:43 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- I am not sure abou the video card, but the rest sounds reasonable
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| 07:39:51 PM | Garbee | evermind: If they are asking how to convert, they should not use DD.
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| 07:40:03 PM | Garbee | dd is for those who know what they are typing in, else things get messed beyond repair.
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| 07:40:05 PM | Dave_Maydew | I have a nVidia card coming in the post
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| 07:40:17 PM | evermind | oki, you got a point there, garbee
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| 07:40:18 PM | agamotto | Garbee- agreed
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| 07:40:18 PM | Garbee | and take drivers out.
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| 07:40:24 PM | evermind | eventhough, luv ma dd, simple syntax
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| 07:40:25 PM | evermind | =)
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| 07:40:29 PM | gpop7 | i should have let him finish before i asked the question
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| 07:40:30 PM | Garbee | dd = l337s
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| 07:40:37 PM | gpop7 | sorry
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| 07:40:48 PM | evermind | only two commandline options lets you clone everything
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| 07:41:17 PM | Dave_Maydew | I also have another machine coming to me, which is ATOM based, that I will use as a webserver and personal email server
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| 07:41:23 PM | Garbee | Clonezill may use dd, but better people who are asking use a GUI to do it vs typing it in themselves.
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| 07:41:44 PM | evermind | yah yah, understood=)
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| 07:42:02 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- the atom-based box could be good, as long as it has a gfx card/set that supports 1080p output
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| 07:42:12 PM | Garbee | Oh, btw... Parted Magic (http://partedmagic.com/doku.php) is now my favorite Linux liveCD tool for diagnostics and repair stuff. So much built into it.
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| 07:42:13 PM | Dave_Maydew | I just want to host my own personal site, that will help noobs and point them to Cat5tv also :-)
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| 07:42:25 PM | Ryan00 | Robbie is their anyway to listen to your shows on my android phone ?
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| 07:42:34 PM | pyrosrock | most cards support 1080p these days
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| 07:42:36 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Great little silver disc, isn't it?
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| 07:42:42 PM | Garbee | Ryan00: Live, not yet. On demand, yes. You can download and copy over.
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| 07:42:46 PM | evermind | never used the livecd but know parted, garbee, thx for the link
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| 07:42:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | The Atom based machine will be headerless for webserving and email serving
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| 07:43:01 PM | Ryan00 | Thank You
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| 07:43:05 PM | Garbee | evermind: It is very much worth a shot.
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| 07:43:06 PM | Dave_Maydew | the Packard bell will be the Media Centre
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| 07:43:34 PM | RavenLords | hello Robbief
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| 07:43:34 PM | Dave_Maydew | and I want to VNC into both and SSH too :-)
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| 07:43:39 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, what question would you like us to ask you that you like best?
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| 07:43:47 PM | Garbee | My main thing right now is no way (That I know of) to keep definitions for ClamAV on a USB key for refernce, it requires internet.
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| 07:44:47 PM | agamotto | Yep, poor thing is running out of coolant
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| 07:44:48 PM | Yazid1965 | Just Do It! LOL
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| 07:45:08 PM | Garbee | When can I go to space?!
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| 07:45:09 PM | RavenLords | lol
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| 07:45:32 PM | evermind | i wanna shoot some ppls to the moon
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| 07:45:33 PM | GregInTexas | take it some helium!
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| 07:45:36 PM | Dave_Maydew | Ask Richard Branson :-)
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| 07:45:39 PM | Dave_Maydew | cvb
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| 07:46:04 PM | Dave_Maydew | caught my k/b then
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| 07:46:14 PM | GregInTexas | meanwhile, all us folks that root our phones get rid of the stupid slide lock ...
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| 07:46:22 PM | Garbee | Next we will have people like Kyle from KyleXY running around.
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| 07:46:49 PM | agamotto | it could be worse, it could be Observers
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| 07:46:53 PM | evermind | guy looks like tom seleck=)
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| 07:47:02 PM | Dave_Maydew | Is he a radio ham??
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| 07:47:32 PM | eclipse2 | soy ooze
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| 07:47:41 PM | agamotto | I was thinking Jacque Le Coq myself....
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| 07:48:04 PM | Guest_7473 | When they launched, did he say " Take off Hoser"
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| 07:48:11 PM | Scorpio55 | Dave_Maydew check out his name on QRZ
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| 07:48:11 PM | GregInTexas | Mittens!
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| 07:48:16 PM | ajamison5579 | they could not think of a better name then the Canadian Arm
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| 07:48:23 PM | Garbee | See that childish smile on RobbieF's face?
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| 07:48:31 PM | evermind | guys making our all dreams
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| 07:48:37 PM | evermind | cudoes to all astronauts
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| 07:48:42 PM | evermind | and cosmonauts
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| 07:48:43 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, so when are you going to visit the ISS?
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| 07:48:45 PM | Dave_Maydew | You can listen to the ISS on VHF radio
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| 07:48:48 PM | Garbee | evermind: Kudos?
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| 07:48:52 PM | evermind | yea, that
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| 07:48:53 PM | evermind | hehehe
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| 07:48:57 PM | Garbee | heh
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| 07:48:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | By Port Huron in Michigan!
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| 07:49:01 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF when is the first Remote from space?
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| 07:49:08 PM | Garbee | I was like.. What is Cudoes?
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| 07:49:09 PM | evermind | ty for correcting
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| 07:49:11 PM | agamotto | Ahhh, but are they Holmes-approved?
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| 07:49:12 PM | agamotto | heheheeheh
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| 07:49:39 PM | evermind | it shows im not native
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| 07:49:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | Power Company running Windows
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| 07:49:53 PM | pyrosrock | Dave_Maydew bummer i only have a UHF and a HF
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| 07:49:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | lol
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| 07:49:54 PM | Scorpio55 | Dave_Maydew ISS 145.800mhz ???
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| 07:50:11 PM | _Jot_ | I wash my powercables with water and soap twice a day, so I always have clean power
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| 07:50:16 PM | GregInTexas | fer sure
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| 07:50:21 PM | Dave_Maydew | I beleive they use UHF also Pyrosrock
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| 07:50:21 PM | Yazid1965 | lol
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| 07:50:55 PM | evermind | one can spend alot of money on server monitoring
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| 07:50:58 PM | GregInTexas | is he gonna talk about TOP ?
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| 07:51:09 PM | Dave_Maydew | and somewhere in the 143MHz Scorpio
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| 07:51:11 PM | pyrosrock | Dave_Maydew do u know frequency?
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| 07:51:39 PM | Scorpio55 | ISS CROSS BAND uhf/vhf UPLINK/DOWNLINK
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| 07:51:44 PM | evermind | theres something like facebook for server monitoring, i cant recall the name atm
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| 07:51:47 PM | Garbee | Hillary: Wouldn't you say that is "cool beans"?
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| 07:51:49 PM | evermind | they had it on ces last year
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| 07:51:49 PM | RavenLords | yes
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| 07:52:08 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Yes
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| 07:52:11 PM | Dave_Maydew | Pyrosrock, PM me your email address
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| 07:52:12 PM | agamotto | Isn't that all in the Webmin package?
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| 07:52:16 PM | Yazid1965 | easy breezy--cool beans and now Just Do It! lol
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| 07:52:17 PM | jonathon | evermind, munin?
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| 07:52:19 PM | evermind | servermonitoring+knowledgebase community, found the idea cool
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| 07:52:25 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'll send you all the frequencies
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| 07:52:28 PM | Hillary | bahaha. quote book!
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| 07:52:33 PM | evermind | munin is another good project, jonathon
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| 07:53:06 PM | jonathon | Ah I was thinking dashboards/wall
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| 07:53:06 PM | Scorpio55 | http://hamradio.arc.nasa.gov/ISSrepeater.html
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| 07:53:16 PM | Dave_Maydew | what is your callsign Pyrosrock?
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| 07:53:48 PM | evermind | someone remember these uptimed, aka linux uptime stats
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| 07:53:55 PM | evermind | that was fun a few years ago
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| 07:54:04 PM | Scorpio55 | ISS uplink 437.800mhz downlink 145.800mhz
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| 07:54:05 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, if you have a router, it wouldn't respond to pings because of security, so pinging your home network should normally never be possible
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| 07:54:38 PM | Garbee | _Jot_: There are ways around that.
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| 07:55:11 PM | agamotto | Hillary- It happens more often than you would think.
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| 07:55:19 PM | evermind | talking about passwords, chrome get a password generator
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| 07:55:22 PM | Hillary | oh i know it!
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| 07:55:25 PM | evermind | wonder if anyone would use that
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| 07:55:26 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, sure, but normally you wouldn't want such things, like in my case, if you tried to detect me on my IP, you wouldn't detect anything from my network at all, like I don't exist on the internet
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| 07:56:13 PM | agamotto | evermind- yes, I can't wait to see if it passes muster
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| 07:56:54 PM | Garbee | Robbie, This service is awesome.
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| 07:57:16 PM | evermind | that service is indeed alot better than the one im using atm
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| 07:57:28 PM | evermind | will have to test it as soon as my own website server is back up
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| 07:57:35 PM | Scorpio55 | Dave_Maydew must install Gpredict to find the ISS next pass
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| 07:57:37 PM | Garbee | I currently have no way to monitor these things on my web host.
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| 07:58:32 PM | Garbee | Well, I did not have a way to monitor these things, now I do!
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| 07:58:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | I use Gpredict and on Android I run Heavens Above
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| 07:59:06 PM | evermind | good way to see if terminal server is reachable from outside
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| 07:59:09 PM | GregInTexas | we use whatsup gold for this, but pretty neat (free) way to do it!
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| 07:59:58 PM | JVSCC | Groovy baby
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| 08:00:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | What is the Weather like in Barrie?
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| 08:00:09 PM | RavenLords | ty i need that
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| 08:00:31 PM | agamotto | I can see how it would be very useful for admin on a school network, or somesuch
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| 08:00:39 PM | JVSCC | a demo
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| 08:00:49 PM | agamotto | junksite..... apple.com?
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| 08:01:02 PM | Garbee | Hillary: You mean " Un-reliable"
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| 08:01:17 PM | Scorpio55 | Dave_Maydew We'll have to try for a QSO with that Canadian astronaut when he's on the ISS and sendthe recording to RobbieF
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| 08:01:32 PM | Garbee | search.cat5.tv?
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| 08:01:34 PM | evermind | imagine you got servers behind a fw, and wanna test the firewall rules
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| 08:01:44 PM | evermind | if you messed something up, the flag turns red
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| 08:01:49 PM | Garbee | Yea, that is SO hard to take down...
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| 08:03:04 PM | agamotto | WPS is still borked, yes?
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| 08:03:18 PM | Garbee | WPS?
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| 08:03:30 PM | Guest_5413 | yes
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| 08:03:35 PM | evermind | waht is wps
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| 08:03:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wow that is coo!
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| 08:03:54 PM | evermind | sms service messages too?
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| 08:03:56 PM | Guest_5413 | wireless protected setup I think
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| 08:04:06 PM | agamotto | Ok, will pass that along to my nieghbor
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| 08:04:11 PM | Garbee | WPS will never be safe.
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| 08:04:36 PM | evermind | what is wireless protected setup?, some replacement for wpa2?
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| 08:04:37 PM | Garbee | Guest_5413: Yea, you hit it.
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| 08:04:51 PM | agamotto | Hillary- Does it involve your dog eating and rolling around in something dead and fermented?
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| 08:04:54 PM | Garbee | No. WPS is an *easy* and INSECURE way to setup WPA on many systems.
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| 08:05:09 PM | agamotto | evermind- nah, easy 'noob' setup
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| 08:05:09 PM | _Jot_ | WPS means you press a button, and then you can set up something else automaticly without entering passwords and so on for a limited amount of time
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| 08:05:15 PM | evermind | and yes, you can check if your friends are online, if you get em to start a dyndns daemon
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| 08:05:25 PM | evermind | friends, or think family pc offline
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| 08:05:26 PM | _Jot_ | so, press button on router and within 2-5 minutes, set up your device
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| 08:05:30 PM | Guest_8106 | shouldnt have been using windows!!!!
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| 08:05:30 PM | JVSCC | From looken at porn sites?
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| 08:05:31 PM | Garbee | Hillary, Task manager, kill all unknown processes, then run a deep virus scan.
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| 08:05:40 PM | Garbee | JVSCC, Not appropriate.
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| 08:05:45 PM | Dave_Maydew | Food Poisoning Virus
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| 08:05:50 PM | evermind | nice description
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| 08:05:51 PM | agamotto | JVSCC- doesn't have to be pr0n anymore
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| 08:05:52 PM | T0B33 | haha the google redirect virus? my friends got that but linux live cd came in and saved the day XD
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| 08:05:55 PM | robgor | windows lol
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| 08:05:55 PM | JVSCC | From looken at korn sites?
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| 08:06:19 PM | Dave_Maydew | RobbieF I got asked the same question
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| 08:06:30 PM | Guest_5413 | Linux is grand
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| 08:06:30 PM | Guest_6817 | hope you image the drive!
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| 08:06:35 PM | evermind | thats what they all say;)
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| 08:06:41 PM | Dave_Maydew | and I believe Scorpio55 has been asked the same too lol
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| 08:06:48 PM | agamotto | I left Windows mostly due to the time wasted keeping it running as opposed to actually using it.
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| 08:06:54 PM | pyrosrock | games!
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| 08:06:58 PM | T0B33 | Yea my friends are taking linux in to account because of things like that :(
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| 08:07:05 PM | JVSCC | FAcebook
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| 08:07:19 PM | Scorpio55 | FaceAche
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| 08:07:27 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: I expect Viruses though.
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| 08:07:34 PM | agamotto | MSE should be a part of the Service Packs
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| 08:07:38 PM | evermind | best way to switch em, if they get a new piece of hw, preinstall linux and let em onto it
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| 08:07:45 PM | Garbee | agamotto: MSE is rolled directly into Win 8 now.
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| 08:07:46 PM | evermind | most of them figure it out quite fast if they dunno what theyre at
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| 08:07:50 PM | Garbee | It is Windows Defender.
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| 08:08:19 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'm still using Evolution for my emails
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| 08:08:20 PM | agamotto | Garbee- good move on their part
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| 08:08:28 PM | Dave_Maydew | not a big Thunderbird fan
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| 08:08:29 PM | JVSCC | Hill that can be removed easily...
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| 08:08:32 PM | Garbee | agamotto: It has been a while coming.
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| 08:08:36 PM | evermind | linux not be the case, are you sure
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| 08:08:40 PM | U-AL_ | The files are hidden but still there
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| 08:08:41 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, lost files? that is why you have this magical thing called 'Backup', it is really cool beans, and with it, you can restore everything!
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| 08:08:44 PM | pyrosrock | i swiched i 86 yr old to thunderbird from outlook all good
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| 08:08:50 PM | Garbee | U-AL_: Not always.
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| 08:08:55 PM | evermind | install linux, deleting partitions to create linux ones...
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| 08:08:58 PM | agamotto | Had they done that with XP or Vista, they might have kept a lot of people
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| 08:09:06 PM | U-AL_ | unhide.exe and tdsskiller are good tools
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| 08:09:07 PM | evermind | forgot to backup something, think profiles
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| 08:09:37 PM | JVSCC | Get Mac and install Mountain Goat on it.
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| 08:09:43 PM | Dave_Maydew | Buy a Mac, they must have a bottomless bank account
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| 08:09:44 PM | U-AL_ | Garbee it usually just hides them
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| 08:10:01 PM | Garbee | Windows has been crap built on Crap until 7. 7 was some good stuff built on crap.
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| 08:10:12 PM | Garbee | U-AL_: I have seen more delete than hide.
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| 08:10:12 PM | evermind | if you wanna change other ppls os, also consider that youll not always be there to assist them
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| 08:10:14 PM | emiel1976 | Robbyf the mac is not save
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| 08:10:18 PM | Drumstick | Nice plug RobbieF
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| 08:10:18 PM | evermind | they need to be able to do their stuff when youre not around
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| 08:10:19 PM | robgor | RobbieF get hillary to try a live CD
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| 08:10:31 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, didn't you teach Hillary how to make backups?
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| 08:10:32 PM | Dave_Maydew | Garbeee, Windows in general is CRAP
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| 08:10:40 PM | agamotto | What is a good way to explain the difference between a 'gateway' and a 'router' for a novice-level user?
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| 08:10:53 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you still need backups with Linux too, so no reason not to teach it
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| 08:10:56 PM | JVSCC | That is old Malware, it can be fixed easily..
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| 08:11:02 PM | U-AL_ | Or run a bootable rescue disk like kasperskys recue disk
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| 08:11:18 PM | Garbee | Dave_Maydew: Win 8 is far better than anything else they have put out, but due to legacy support they need to keep making it 2/3rds junk.
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| 08:11:18 PM | agamotto | robgor- All of my online banking is done from a live-cd
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| 08:11:23 PM | Dave_Maydew | Virus exist for people who run WINDOWS
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| 08:11:32 PM | Guest_4092 | I have all of my file that I cannot lose on a separate partition on my computer
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| 08:11:39 PM | Garbee | Dave_Maydew: Virus's exist for people who run a computer, period.
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| 08:11:41 PM | RavenLords | nop virs
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| 08:11:50 PM | agamotto | Garbee- agreed
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| 08:12:02 PM | Garbee | Guest_4092: Even a seperate partition can't save you.
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| 08:12:04 PM | evermind | btw, that get verified link works on linux too
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| 08:12:09 PM | Garbee | You need a true backup.
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| 08:12:11 PM | emiel1976 | Dave_Maydew, and OS X
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| 08:12:13 PM | agamotto | Paypal should qualify as malware, at least ;)
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| 08:12:32 PM | JVSCC | Just read the address....
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| 08:12:38 PM | Guest_4092 | I have backups on backups on backups
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| 08:12:40 PM | JVSCC | from
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| 08:12:49 PM | evermind | you dont do much, as long as you read your paypal agreement and understand that theyll never send you stuff like that
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| 08:12:55 PM | Dave_Maydew | I get those emails and ones from banks about my bank account
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| 08:13:03 PM | agamotto | th... thailand?
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| 08:13:13 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you can also verify links at sites such as http://http://www.phishtank.com/
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| 08:13:18 PM | _Jot_ | whoops, http://www.phishtank.com/
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| 08:13:23 PM | Dave_Maydew | best thing is, I haven't got a bank account
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| 08:13:23 PM | Guest_4092 | I got burned badly some years back in that I lost files and the backups failed as well
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| 08:13:33 PM | evermind | wget blocked
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| 08:13:37 PM | evermind | surprise surprise
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| 08:13:55 PM | T0B33 | Gnome 3 is terrible for multi monitor support :( Sticking debian back on tonight :) wow nice tip Robbie my family do stuff like this so that will come in handy :)
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| 08:14:03 PM | Garbee | I tried a wget command on a server the other day, trying to just grab images... ended up grabbing their entire site by accident!
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| 08:14:06 PM | ajamison5579 | You can forward emails like this to spoof@paypal.com and they will investigate it
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| 08:14:06 PM | Garbee | Yikes.
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| 08:14:08 PM | agamotto | A digital senior!!! coolies
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| 08:14:31 PM | T0B33 | My dad uses ubuntu XD
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| 08:14:40 PM | T0B33 | my dad does not know his too XD
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| 08:14:42 PM | Dave_Maydew | My outlaws use a PC, but it runs Win XP
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| 08:14:47 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Passwords on file = not good.
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| 08:14:49 PM | evermind | i like the positive approach more
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| 08:14:51 PM | evermind | "youve won"
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| 08:14:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | My Dad runs Linux too
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| 08:14:57 PM | Dave_Maydew | hehehehe
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| 08:14:58 PM | U-AL_ | combo fix is a good virus repair tool
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| 08:15:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I have got that email from Paypal!
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| 08:15:06 PM | maxwell6307 | i switched my mother to linux
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| 08:15:15 PM | Garbee | I won't move my dad off Windows.. Too much pain involved.
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| 08:15:23 PM | robgor | paypal will never email you
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| 08:15:30 PM | Dave_Maydew | trying to switch the wife and the outlaws is a no go area
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| 08:15:33 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief forward this stuff to Spoof@paypal.com
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| 08:15:35 PM | Scorpio55 | My oldest Linux customer is a 92 yr old Australian
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| 08:15:37 PM | Garbee | So many programs we need for the store and gaming that only run in Windows, and he will have large issues with VM's due to resources.
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| 08:15:39 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF my local historical scociety runs ubuntu on there archive coms
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| 08:15:44 PM | ajamison5579 | they investigate it
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| 08:15:58 PM | evermind | sending it out 10.000 times, if only 1% clicks on these...
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| 08:16:00 PM | evermind | oh man
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| 08:16:01 PM | Drumstick | Nicely done!!!!
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| 08:16:02 PM | evermind | fun fun
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| 08:16:02 PM | maxwell6307 | went by to fast
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| 08:16:02 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- i find it easier to convert said people by no longer offering free M$ support
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| 08:16:03 PM | Drumstick | Thank you!
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| 08:16:04 PM | JVSCC | Chow 4 now.....
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| 08:16:06 PM | GregInTexas | great show y'all!!!
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| 08:16:06 PM | Drumstick | Bye all.
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| 08:16:06 PM | Dave_Maydew | Well, I must get to bed
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| 08:16:07 PM | Yazid1965 | send letters
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| 08:16:07 PM | RavenLords | chees
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| 08:16:21 PM | Dave_Maydew | hoping to go and see my Dad tomorrow
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| 08:16:25 PM | T0B33 | Great show guys!! See you all next week :D
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| 08:16:30 PM | agamotto | Dave_Maydew- Amazing how 20 quid/hour convinces some to try something 'new.'
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| 08:16:33 PM | Yazid1965 | good night all
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| 08:16:36 PM | Dave_Maydew | Awesome show RobbieF
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| 08:16:38 PM | gpop7 | great show. goodnight everyone.
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| 08:16:40 PM | RavenLords | yes
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| 08:16:42 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone
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| 08:16:42 PM | Guest_4092 | now to review the past shows
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| 08:16:45 PM | RobbieF | thanks Dave_Maydew
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| 08:16:45 PM | Dave_Maydew | shall catch you on Twitter
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| 08:16:46 PM | maxwell6307 | take care all
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| 08:17:02 PM | Hillary | Thanks everyone for watching and being fabulous and patient! Have a super week! :)
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| 08:17:05 PM | evermind | alot of page closed
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| 08:17:12 PM | Garbee | Hillary: Thanks for joining us!
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| 08:17:15 PM | agamotto | Answered questions, solved a few problems... very productive
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| 08:17:15 PM | evermind | same to you, hillary
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| 08:17:33 PM | evermind | indeed, ground work can be fun, agamotto
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| 08:17:33 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: I am installing Chrome and Firefox now to see what they say about that issue I messaged you earlier.
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| 08:17:34 PM | Dave_Maydew | Good night everyone
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| 08:17:37 PM | gpop7 | see you next week. same time same station.
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| 08:18:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - Thanks for an Awesome show!
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| 08:19:04 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF getting fustrated with the adds on the BSP
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| 08:19:17 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, a hosts file will help with that
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| 08:19:29 PM | pyrosrock | ???
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| 08:19:38 PM | agamotto | I have some family members now who 'unfriended' me on Facebook because I won't fix their computers for free. The silence has been good...
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| 08:19:54 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, your computer checks this file whenever you want an address, before asking the DNS servers
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| 08:20:04 PM | Garbee | Robbie, Thanks so much for the awesome tool.
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| 08:20:09 PM | Garbee | ^^ Tonights feature.
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| 08:20:10 PM | pyrosrock | agamotto easier dont use facebook
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| 08:20:33 PM | Garbee | Hillary, How are things going for you?... Besides systems crashing for no reason.
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| 08:20:34 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, so in your hosts file, you can put something like '127.0.0.1 www.example.com' or '0.0.0.0 www.example.com' and then whenever your computer needs www.example.com, it will get the address that doesn't exist
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| 08:20:57 PM | agamotto | pyrosrock- too many international friends who can't be bothered with email anymore, otherwise I would
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| 08:21:11 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, so, if you block all the ads-servers in your hosts-file, it will still try to retrieve them, but get them from your local computer (127.0.0.1) or a non-existing one (0.0.0.0)
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| 08:21:22 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ how do u set it up and or can u in win?
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| 08:21:23 PM | _Jot_ | result: no more ads, or almost none
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| 08:21:26 PM | Garbee | Robbie is so proud of Youtube able to start at specific times.
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| 08:21:32 PM | _Jot_ | yep, it will be in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc
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| 08:21:42 PM | Garbee | Look at that little man building his community and webiste... so cute!
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| 08:21:42 PM | robgor | agamotto its a pain sometimes when u have family/friends that call you for computer problems, 99.9% its because of windows
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| 08:22:15 PM | Garbee | I find about 18% of the issues I solve Windows related, the rest are poorly written software or hardware issues.
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| 08:22:19 PM | agamotto | robgor- I wouldn't mind as much if they would so much as cook for me while doing it...
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| 08:22:48 PM | Garbee | One of my friends moms will make me frozen pizzas whenever I want though, so that is a nice bonus for fixing her system.
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| 08:22:52 PM | agamotto | Garbee- I can agree with that... save for Windows wireless setups.... grrr
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| 08:23:03 PM | Garbee | Delicous homemade pizza too.
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| 08:23:15 PM | robgor | yeah they just expect it without doing anything for you
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| 08:23:16 PM | Garbee | Oh god... Wireless in general is a pain in my CENSOR.
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| 08:23:20 PM | pyrosrock | my personal issues are mainly hardware with some software like my ubuntu died on upgrade and havent used it since 6 manths
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| 08:23:27 PM | pyrosrock | months*
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| 08:23:31 PM | agamotto | I am slow-cooking some steak tips tonight... both the dog and the cat are losing it!
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| 08:23:55 PM | agamotto | pyrosrock- 11.x?
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| 08:24:22 PM | pyrosrock | 11.04 to 11.10
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| 08:24:26 PM | agamotto | ouch
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| 08:24:29 PM | pyrosrock | i think
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| 08:24:30 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, you can google 'windows hosts file block ads' for lots of examples
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| 08:24:44 PM | Garbee | Best block ads at the router level.
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| 08:24:51 PM | agamotto | Yah, 9.x taught me to stick with LTS... far fewer headaches so far
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| 08:25:04 PM | Garbee | Or Router and Hosts file for laptops, that way when you leave they are still blocked on other networks.
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| 08:25:10 PM | agamotto | How do you block them at router level?
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| 08:25:15 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ im suprised adblock plus dosent do it or if so how ho i add to the filter?
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| 08:25:24 PM | Garbee | Just blocking the IP's of the domains, or the domains themselves.
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| 08:25:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - Does uptimerobot need to be running for awhile to show any uptime data?
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| 08:25:27 PM | Garbee | Just like a host file.
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| 08:25:30 PM | Garbee | at least for DD-WRT.
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| 08:25:34 PM | agamotto | Ahhh, I see
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| 08:25:41 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, it won't because it's not part of the http system that adblockplus monitors
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| 08:25:52 PM | pyrosrock | ah ok
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| 08:26:44 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, if you do load up a big file, mine is about a 1MB hosts file, then your computer may boot up slowly, or not respond well when you start internet, so in that case you may want to turn off the DNS service in your services
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| 08:27:28 PM | agamotto | Well, I am off to enjoy dinner.
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| 08:27:30 PM | pyrosrock | did u make the file ur self or get it online?
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| 08:27:35 PM | Garbee | see ya agamotto
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| 08:27:37 PM | agamotto | Chat at you folks later
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| 08:27:42 PM | _Jot_ | it's called DNS client in the windows-services list, it caches the DNS
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| 08:28:00 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, I got one from the internet a few years ago, and I've been added to it, mine is at http://www.wodyme.com/hosts/hosts.zip if you want to take a look
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| 08:28:45 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ better not have a virus i dont like zip files
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| 08:28:48 PM | _Jot_ | I've zipped it cause it is 1.6MB or so
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| 08:28:53 PM | Garbee | Jot, may I take a look?
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| 08:28:56 PM | _Jot_ | it's just one file, the hosts file, which is a text file
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| 08:28:58 PM | _Jot_ | sure, everybody can
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| 08:29:12 PM | Garbee | I want to see how it is configured.
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| 08:30:08 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ u dont find things get blocked u want?
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| 08:30:27 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, no, and if that happens, I can always search the one that got blocked, and remove it
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| 08:30:46 PM | pyrosrock | yeah i see some commented out lines
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| 08:31:01 PM | _Jot_ | since I disabled the DNS client from windows, then refreshing the page, or restarting the browser will load it
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| 08:31:04 PM | robgor | great show Robbie and Hillary, outa heya goto do some work, bye all
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| 08:34:39 PM | Garbee | 54824 lines in that host file.
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| 08:34:50 PM | Garbee | That is a lot of typing.
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| 08:34:54 PM | _Jot_ | it's probably got doubles in it too
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| 08:35:06 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ so if i reploce my hosts file it will just work or do i have to tell it to use it?
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| 08:35:09 PM | _Jot_ | and I didn't do much of the typing, i used a different one I got many years ago as you can see from the date
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| 08:35:21 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, yes, but before you do that, you'll probably want to turn off the DNS client-service
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| 08:35:36 PM | _Jot_ | like I said, it can take 5-10 minutes to half an hour to load
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| 08:35:49 PM | _Jot_ | cause the DNS client is just a DNS-caching-service, and it will load that file
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| 08:36:10 PM | _Jot_ | so if you disable the DNS-client, it won't load that file, and won't cache DNS, but ask the DNS server directly, which it would do normally anyway
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| 08:36:27 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ ok well i will see as i have to wait like 10 min f my com after boot anyway
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| 08:36:54 PM | Garbee | I need to go get dog food. Be back soon, may chat some more.
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| 08:37:15 PM | _Jot_ | you'll want to make a copy of your hosts file (which won't have much in it, just microsoft lines) just in case of course
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| 08:37:23 PM | _Jot_ | it'll have only the 127.0.0.1 localhost, most of the time
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| 08:37:40 PM | pyrosrock | yeah renamed to *_bak
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| 08:38:05 PM | _Jot_ | with that file, and adblockplus, you'll still get the 'ad coming up in 10 minutes' on the BSP, but no ads
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| 08:38:30 PM | pyrosrock | yeah
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| 08:39:16 PM | _Jot_ | I know people don't like it when you block ads for their income, but I figure it's my computer, I pay for the connection, so I determine what goes over the connection into my computer
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| 08:39:31 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ hmm i could use this to block virus sites as well on other ppls cams so i dont have to rebuild every 6 months
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| 08:39:37 PM | _Jot_ | yep
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| 08:40:14 PM | _Jot_ | also you could use a DNS server like the opendns.com ones, which block sites automaticly too
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| 08:40:23 PM | _Jot_ | they also run that phishtank-service I mentioned
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| 08:41:04 PM | pyrosrock | hmm i wonder if they have a published list they block so i could setup on my home server as a proxy
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| 08:41:37 PM | _Jot_ | I am not sure, but with phishing and virusses, it changes about once a minute at least so it wouldn't always help :)
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| 08:41:56 PM | RavenLords | lol Robbief need a beer to
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| 08:42:16 PM | pyrosrock | yeah wood need a auto updating system
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| 08:42:42 PM | RobbieF | You know it
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| 08:42:49 PM | RavenLords | lol
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| 08:43:05 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF what kindo beer an orgonic one?
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| 08:43:27 PM | RavenLords | yes same here be for i git to work on my servers
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| 08:43:32 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, looks like something that RachelXu would give you
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| 08:44:30 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF how do we add a feature to the new site wish list?
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| 08:45:07 PM | RobbieF | pyrosrock you do so at the wiki
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| 08:45:34 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF will look into it
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| 08:45:44 PM | RobbieF | http://wiki.category5.tv/new_website_2012
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| 08:47:22 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF is the wiki a difrent login to the site?
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| 08:47:31 PM | RobbieF | yes
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| 08:47:41 PM | pyrosrock | ah...
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| 08:48:14 PM | RavenLords | RobbieF whut do you thek i shode use to Remote Desktop with ssh putty or suthing als
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| 08:48:47 PM | RobbieF | Remote Desktop is good ... I'd just use linux rdesktop command on my linux machines and the built in remote desktop client on windows
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| 08:49:13 PM | RavenLords | ok
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| 08:49:16 PM | RavenLords | ty
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| 08:51:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Has anyone ever heard of Steampunk? Something new I am getting into!
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| 08:51:33 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief added a few more suggestions to the wiki speaking of the new site
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| 08:51:35 PM | RobbieF | np ravenlords gl
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| 08:51:41 PM | RobbieF | cheers ajamison5579
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| 08:51:45 PM | ajamison5579 | not sure they are viable but just thoughts
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| 08:51:46 PM | RobbieF | did you check for replies?
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| 08:51:51 PM | ajamison5579 | yep
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| 08:52:33 PM | pyrosrock | Dennis_Kelley steampunk is a theme
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| 08:53:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | pryosrock - i am not sure really what to call it
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| 08:53:33 PM | pyrosrock | Dennis_Kelley to call what?
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| 08:54:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | what Steampunk is! its based off a role playing game is it not?
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| 08:55:11 PM | pyrosrock | Dennis_Kelley i belive so but it is basicly a theme of old ond futureistic rolled into one
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| 08:56:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes I have seen pictures of new things that are made to look antique
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| 08:56:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | has anyone ever played with a Palm Pilot on linux, or put linux on a Palm Pilot
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| 09:05:53 PM | ajamison5579 | Palm + Linux is a tricky beast
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| 09:06:13 PM | ajamison5579 | I have tried using Jpilot but it is still shotty
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| 09:06:44 PM | ajamison5579 | now with Palm OS not existing anymore it is not likely to get any better
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| 09:07:41 PM | RobbieF | http://www.flickr.com/photos/category5tv/6919232779/in/photostream
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| 09:08:47 PM | pyrosrock | Ox RobbieF added my 2 cents to the new page wiki
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| 09:09:11 PM | RobbieF | thanks
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| 09:11:36 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief that wiki is dangerous i keep thinking of ideas my list is growing large
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| 09:11:37 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 09:12:35 PM | ajamison5579 | but hey it at least gives you a good creative list of suggestions to pick from
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| 09:12:41 PM | ajamison5579 | which is obviously why you did it
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| 09:12:58 PM | RobbieF | that's what we need ajamison5579
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| 09:13:45 PM | ajamison5579 | Still not sure i have any practicle suggestions but i list them never the less can not hurt to put them out there
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| 09:16:33 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF have u been to http://dontclick.it/ or anyone else an interesting interface if nothing else
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| 09:17:41 PM | ajamison5579 | Doh Robbief realized some of my suggestions are interaction based but subtle interaction oh well you can mull them over when you get a chance i am done suggesting for tonight lol
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| 09:18:53 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ do i have to restart my computer as i am still getting the adds or am i not got them in the list as i am getting local adds
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| 09:20:14 PM | pyrosrock | is RobbieF taking pics of his screen?
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| 09:20:31 PM | RobbieF | sorry; skype call pyrosrock
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| 09:20:39 PM | Garbee_ | Nice photo's Robbie.
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| 09:20:46 PM | RobbieF | _Jot_ this beer is empty.
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| 09:21:03 PM | pyrosrock | oh cause was thinking RobbieF must surley know about screen grabs
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| 09:21:17 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock: What were your thoughts on the Wiki?
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| 09:21:37 PM | Garbee | hahah! http://www.flickr.com/photos/category5tv/6879648361/in/photostream/
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| 09:21:44 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF how so?
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| 09:23:15 PM | RobbieF | Garbee, you have to keep watching the photo gallery week to week... we add new ones all the time... usually goofy.
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| 09:23:15 PM | RobbieF | ;)
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| 09:23:23 PM | RobbieF | not sure what you're referring to pyrosrock
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| 09:23:26 PM | RobbieF | [sorry]
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| 09:24:39 PM | Garbee | Eric eating pie... It is like watching a bear invade a campsite.
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| 09:24:58 PM | Garbee | Except with enough manners to use a utensil.
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