Chat Logs for Episode 233 — #Category5 on /


With 132 Posts:Garbee
With 100 Posts:agamotto
With 88 Posts:Dave-Maydew
With 42 Posts:GregInTexas
With 37 Posts:GoodGuy

Chat Logs:

06:58:22 PMDave-Maydew you've sent it over the pond Garbee
06:58:24 PMDave-Maydew :-)
06:58:39 PMDrumstick Hi RobbieF and EricKidd! looking forward to hopefully seeing the whole show this week.... Miro aint the same.
06:59:17 PMGarbee Robbie, Op the co-host? Or do we want to prevent EricKidd from having too much fun?
06:59:32 PMEricKidd Hey folks!
06:59:38 PMRobbieF hey everyone!
06:59:38 PMGarbee Shoot, he can kick me now!
06:59:40 PMRobbieF here we go!
06:59:42 PMEricKidd Fun? At CAT5? C'mon!!!
06:59:50 PMravenlords hello
06:59:54 PMDave-Maydew 10
06:59:55 PMDave-Maydew 9
06:59:57 PMDave-Maydew 8
06:59:58 PMDave-Maydew 7
06:59:59 PMDave-Maydew 6
07:00:00 PMDave-Maydew 5
07:00:01 PMDave-Maydew 4
07:00:02 PMDave-Maydew 3
07:00:03 PMDave-Maydew 2
07:00:04 PMDave-Maydew 1
07:00:06 PMDave-Maydew BANG
07:00:08 PMGarbee EricKidd, You official stance should be " I get paid in peanuts, and Robbie takes one away. "
07:00:14 PMevermind there we go
07:00:17 PMevermind show on
07:00:22 PMGarbee Dave-Maydew, Please don't do a countdown 10 seconds long, too close to a flood.
07:00:27 PMEricKidd Here we go!!! Let's begin!
07:00:29 PMchrisreich People of Earth, Greetings
07:00:29 PMDrumstick Gotta watch those take-offs! lol
07:01:08 PMGregInTexas Cardivan?
07:01:21 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF Erik had to take his shoes and socks off for counting??
07:01:36 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, is the coffeemaker that is in the kitchen not jealous now? (The one you showed in the show before)
07:01:44 PMGarbee Not shaving apparently.
07:01:55 PMGuest_2391 Like the mug
07:02:16 PMGuest_2391 Murphy's Law!
07:02:17 PMagamotto Wow, sounds like a bad week...
07:02:29 PMjaepea hi all
07:02:31 PMcalhydro water water everywhere
07:02:42 PM_Jot_ hi jaepea
07:02:43 PMGarbee EricKidd, So that in mind, think of how the rest of the week will be.
07:02:45 PMagamotto WINE?
07:02:46 PMagamotto heheehehe
07:02:51 PMGarbee It is only Tuesday...
07:03:13 PMGarbee No Wine, the hosts may get too drunk that way.
07:03:17 PMagamotto _Jot_- you can save us all from Google!
07:03:36 PM_Jot_ well, it's the Germans who brought up the privacy-laws
07:03:42 PMScorpio55 Garbee it's Wednesday here lol
07:03:48 PMGuest_2391 Erik with wine and a hockey stick...I don't know
07:03:48 PM_Jot_ I know that's close though :)
07:03:51 PMGarbee Scorpio55, Tuesday for us.
07:03:58 PMGuest_2391 Garbee is in the future!
07:04:06 PMagamotto Garbee- Someone should create the address [email protected] just for giggles
07:04:10 PMGarbee According to Scorpio55 I am in the past.
07:04:25 PMGuest_2391 way!
07:04:25 PMagamotto EricKidd- Have you tried progressives?
07:04:26 PMGoodGuy No Line Bifocals
07:04:27 PMGarbee agamotto, I wouldn't be suprised if Robbie has already done it.
07:04:31 PMDave-Maydew Scorpio welcome to Wednesday
07:04:31 PMG_Dog1985_ Garbee: i for for got some thing
07:04:41 PMGoodGuy I had a pair, but they killed my neck
07:04:45 PMGregInTexas bifocal contacts ...
07:04:56 PMcalhydro Progessive three zones of focus works great
07:04:59 PMGuest_2391 Greg...I second that
07:04:59 PMagamotto GregInTexas- Mum has them and loves them
07:05:03 PMScorpio55 Dave_Maydew Hi from the future
07:05:03 PMemiel1976 I will send my card this week.
07:05:09 PMDave-Maydew Time Travel without the TARDIS
07:05:17 PMpyrosrock EricKidd u can now get electronic bifocals
07:05:25 PMGregInTexas your welcome!
07:05:27 PMGarbee Dave-Maydew, I don't like that idea. I would be ripped apart in the fabric of space-time.
07:05:28 PMGuest_2391 Im from Texas!!
07:05:38 PMGoodGuy The Lone Star State RobbieF
07:05:54 PMGuest_6578 Eric can use reading glasses with contacts
07:05:57 PMGarbee I called the line, Robbie's assistant answering the phone sounds eerily similar.
07:06:00 PMGuest_2391 We are blowin up!
07:06:02 PMagamotto Magic Jack?
07:06:07 PMDave-Maydew There's a yellow Rose
07:06:11 PMDrumstick EricKidd: Great song!!
07:06:18 PMGregInTexas amen to lone star beer and bob wills music!
07:06:41 PMGregInTexas there you go!!!
07:06:46 PMGuest_2391 Dont forget the barbecue!
07:06:47 PMagamotto SxSW...
07:06:55 PMG_Dog1985_ haha
07:06:58 PMGoodGuy How bout them Cowboys!
07:07:00 PMGregInTexas works for me!
07:07:04 PMagamotto Green beer is twee
07:07:16 PMGregInTexas guitar ... beer ... bbq ... TEXAS!!!
07:07:22 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:07:33 PMGarbee Cat5 Beta, Win 8 beta... I'm in Beta central right now.
07:07:42 PMemiel1976 RobbieF, the Beta is working great.
07:07:44 PMagamotto Beytah makes for betta buttah.
07:07:46 PM_Jot_ Pretty soon EricKidd will be too young for TV
07:07:57 PMjaepea hi robbie and erc
07:08:04 PMpyrosrock Garbee and 12.04 beta
07:08:06 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:08:11 PMGarbee RobbieF, Call it " alpha ".
07:08:12 PMDrumstick How much beta are they??
07:08:12 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:08:33 PMGarbee pyrosrock, Win 8 Beta is buddah then the 12.04 Beta.
07:08:35 PM_Jot_ run agamotto, run!
07:08:41 PMemiel1976 Running Xubuntu Beta 1/Cat5 Beta and Win 8 prieview.
07:08:41 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF still can't say BEEETA
07:08:43 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:09:01 PMGarbee I don't think I will ever run a stable OS again.
07:09:10 PMDave-Maydew Still running the flawless Ubuntu 10.04
07:09:11 PMGarbee I honestly love the bugs and random crashing.
07:09:14 PMGuest_2391 Hands free camera leaves 2 hands for more Beer
07:09:23 PMagamotto Garbee- Going all-Windows? heheheheh
07:09:30 PMGregInTexas ditto on 10.04 ...
07:09:33 PMGuest_2391 Windows!?
07:09:40 PMjaepea lol
07:09:42 PMchrisreich What is the countdown to Ubuntu 12.04? anyone know?
07:09:43 PMagamotto Shubuntu
07:10:02 PMGarbee chrisreich, Just search for the Release Schedule, also it is in the ubuntu wiki, I think on the front page.
07:10:04 PMcalhydro Has anyone gotten their hands on the Raspberry PI computer, the sites are up , but demand is out pacing supply new stock sells out in minutes?
07:10:07 PM_Jot_ Windows has Solitaire!
07:10:14 PMGregInTexas Metro vs. Unity ... the face off!
07:10:17 PMagamotto chrisreich- late April... probably around my birthday, the 22nd.
07:10:17 PMDave-Maydew Ubuntu 11.10 crashed miserably after a upgrade to the nVidia driver
07:10:23 PMGarbee
07:10:28 PMDave-Maydew so back onto 10.04
07:10:29 PMGoodGuy I waited an hour and couldnt get one calhydro
07:10:46 PMGarbee The layouts are semi-similar, but they do completely different things.
07:10:58 PMemiel1976 I find Win8 better than Unity and Gnome 3.
07:11:04 PMGuest_2391 Go android Kidd
07:11:08 PMGarbee Unity adapts current Software to work fullscreen better, Metro forces all new apps to be made or ported.
07:11:32 PM_Jot_ Jamming up the screen is bad, we saw that in the Spaceballs movie
07:11:44 PMGarbee RobbieF, Win 8 Metro works really well with a mouse and keybaord, and multi-monitors.
07:11:45 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
07:11:45 PMagamotto I still have to wonder about the 'Charms.' What, we know have to recite spells to run programs?
07:11:59 PMGarbee Yea! Spaceballs rocks!
07:12:03 PMGuest_2391 will make the fingers go numb!
07:12:03 PMagamotto President Scrooob!!!!!!!
07:12:11 PMGregInTexas I was wondering where they came up with the "charms" thing ...
07:12:12 PMGarbee The password is " One, Two, Three... Four ".
07:12:14 PMDave-Maydew just don't sneeze
07:12:16 PMemiel1976 @Garbee, I agree.
07:12:25 PMGarbee "That is the key to my luggauge!"
07:12:26 PMcalhydro Goodguy: In wonder why they are having such a time, with production?
07:12:27 PM_Jot_ Hey Garbee! That's the same combination as on my luggage!
07:12:32 PMchrisreich thanks agamotto
07:12:49 PMGarbee _Jot_, Remind me to change my luggauge combination.
07:13:06 PM_Jot_ Garbee, you got to change your luggage!
07:13:06 PMemiel1976 I find the fullscreen apps better than in Unity. You still have borders wile Win8 has hide them all.
07:13:19 PMagamotto Hmmm, trying to remember the last time my luggage went through an airport...
07:13:34 PMDave-Maydew love W3C, started learning PHP
07:13:57 PMravenlords no
07:13:57 PMGarbee emiel1976, Also, the Metro apps don't have the same level of access to the system as Desktop apps, increasing security and stability.
07:14:01 PMGuest_3223 do it do it!
07:14:09 PMGuest_2391 Gotta go guys :( Have a Great Show! I'll catch you on Miro.
07:14:15 PMGoodGuy Demand is very high for that price
07:14:16 PMravenlords google chrome
07:14:17 PMagamotto Garbee- sandboxed?
07:14:27 PMGarbee I think of the App list on the left hand side of the screen as the Taskbar sideways.
07:14:48 PMmathman47 Yea Chrome
07:14:49 PMGarbee agamotto, They run on the .NET framework, and javascript/HTML5/CSS3 talk stragihts to the WinRT API.
07:14:54 PMGoodGuy New supply coming from China iirc
07:15:02 PMagamotto Garbee- javascript... hrm
07:15:02 PMmaxwell6307 firefox for me
07:15:04 PMDave-Maydew I use Chrome in Joliclud
07:15:10 PMGarbee and yes, each is basically sandboxed, but they have API calls to access data in other apps.
07:15:11 PMGregInTexas I like Opera
07:15:46 PMGregInTexas I like opera, but use ff and chromium as well
07:15:50 PMSovereignEntity Greg speed dial is great
07:15:51 PMagamotto Opera is great on mobiles and low-power kit
07:15:53 PMVE3NSO Firefox for me
07:15:58 PMGarbee agamotto, The technology is awesome. I love it compared to standard apps. But for Web Dev I will always need the desktop and multi-monitors, which Metro is doing right from the start, which has taken Unity a year to get right.
07:16:00 PMDave-Maydew I run 1280x768
07:16:06 PMagamotto What stats for low-vision/blind?
07:16:13 PMGarbee FF for me, I never even touch Opera.
07:16:16 PMemiel1976 @Garbee, that is treu
07:16:40 PMmathman47 FF betta for Android is OK
07:16:43 PMagamotto Garbee- interesting
07:17:05 PMGregInTexas and Opera mobile on android
07:17:06 PMGarbee emiel1976, You dont' need the @ symbol before my name, it is just to show I am an Op.
07:17:09 PMagamotto I rock 14x9....
07:17:14 PMemiel1976 chrome my nr 1. ff still is not working as good as chrome with html5
07:17:39 PMemiel1976 Garbee, ok
07:17:43 PM_Jot_ I often just type a space before Garbee's name <- look I did it again
07:17:47 PMGarbee The rapid release cycle is quickly fixing that. I am going using FF more due to better dev tools.
07:17:53 PMScorpio55 GreginTexas nice file server built in to Opera
07:18:02 PMGarbee Well, not gong to, I do.
07:18:12 PMsmittysmit Hello all...late as usual
07:18:23 PMGregInTexas Opera is actually pretty cool ... don't use it for everything though
07:18:26 PMDave-Maydew FF is stopping the quick releasing
07:18:28 PMemiel1976 The suport off HTML5 is not the same and also the things they suport are not working as well.
07:18:32 PMGarbee Not to mention CSS3 support in all broswers suck since they use prefixes, Firefox is starting to depreciate them.
07:18:37 PMDave-Maydew isn't 10 a LTS??
07:18:42 PMagamotto Call me wierd, but isn't that why you would have two versions... regular and 'low-graphics?'
07:18:56 PMGregInTexas I started using Opera exclusively for sites like facebook during FF's bad times last summer
07:19:02 PMchrisreich 10.04 is LTS
07:19:04 PMGarbee HTMl5 actually had 2 of the new functions removed from it.
07:19:13 PMagamotto 12.04 will be next LTS
07:19:14 PMGarbee 10.04 is LST.
07:19:17 PMagamotto heheheheh
07:19:18 PMemiel1976 Chrome has a good CSS3 suport. I have the problem with IE9 and lower with that suport
07:19:33 PMjaepea [email protected] or anyone, i got a old version of ubuntu duel booting with windows. will ubuntu update to 11
07:19:33 PMGregInTexas grrr ... an ad in ustream
07:19:38 PMGarbee A Firefox Extension can change the resolution of the page on the fly.
07:19:41 PMagamotto Keeping in mind low-vision and mobile users?
07:19:44 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF my lovely wife said can she have a coffee? she says the one I made her is terrible!!
07:19:47 PMGarbee Great for testing.
07:19:51 PM_Jot_ GregInTexas, firefox, adblockplus, what ads?
07:19:52 PMGarbee But it doesn't work in 10.
07:20:05 PMGarbee _Jot_, BSP ads.
07:20:10 PMpyrosrock jaepea not unless u let it
07:20:11 PMGarbee or ads in the ustream of the live feed.
07:20:13 PMGoodGuy Use FF with Adblock GregInTexas .. someone told me that and no ads since
07:20:18 PM_Jot_ oh, those I blocked in the hosts file
07:20:21 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- Quit going in it?
07:20:23 PMGarbee Do not use Adblock!
07:20:26 PMGregInTexas hmmm, Jot, I happen to be using Chromium for cat5 tv ...
07:20:30 PMGoodGuy Chrome has an Adblock also
07:20:33 PMGarbee It takes the money away from the content providers.
07:20:38 PMDave-Maydew Filtered coffee
07:20:41 PMDave-Maydew nice
07:20:41 PMGarbee You want the content don't you? So put up with the ads.
07:20:51 PMchrisreich DRINK!!! Pasta
07:20:54 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- three scoops, no more, no less. three minutes brewing, no more, no less. Thus endeth the lesson...
07:21:02 PMGregInTexas I have about 300 tabs open in FF ... don't want to run cat5 tv in it ... hehe
07:21:06 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, why are you so violent? Sticks with Christy, mallets with Eric, what's up with that?
07:21:12 PMchrisreich PAH-stuh
07:21:21 PMDave-Maydew Parsta??
07:21:22 PMagamotto All-dentay pahstah
07:21:23 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:21:24 PMGarbee No, Paste-A
07:21:30 PMGoodGuy By watching something thats annoys me? I dont buy from anyone harassing me.. Ads on the side of a website I'll look at
07:21:32 PMSovereignEntity The only add on i use is flashblock
07:21:47 PMGoodGuy Not where they annoy
07:21:50 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF stk
07:21:53 PMGarbee Robbie, What do you think of using ?
07:21:53 PMDave-Maydew oops
07:21:57 PMjaepea [email protected] or anyone, i got a old version of ubuntu duel booting with windows. will ubuntu update to 11
07:22:05 PMGregInTexas how does adblock block ads from a stream?
07:22:10 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF still issues with Nvidia and Ubuntu 11.10
07:22:15 PMGarbee Yea, get it right.
07:22:20 PMGoodGuy I dont know, but it does
07:22:32 PMDave-Maydew seems it's a kernel issue
07:22:33 PMGarbee No, it works poorly in Vbox.
07:22:35 PMagamotto jaepea- probably not... better off to clean install
07:22:36 PMGoodGuy I think it blocks references to those web sites
07:22:39 PMGregInTexas that's pretty cool ...
07:22:40 PMchrisreich DRINNK!!!
07:22:41 PMGarbee VMware stuff it works fine.
07:22:47 PMT0B33 RobbieF i have a question with what you said last week about scammers phoning you. Few years ago my ISP called me saying there was malware on my pC crazy thing is there was and i knew about it ... How did they know?
07:22:48 PMemiel1976 RobbieF, what do you think of the current suport for HTML5 in moste browsers
07:22:48 PMcalhydro Robbie: What do you think of the 12.04 Ubuntu HUD function like or dislike?
07:22:55 PMGuest_6578 IS that why i cannot install win 8 in vbox
07:23:02 PMGarbee They are 3rd party, so it blocks their URL's.
07:23:03 PMGregInTexas lol
07:23:07 PMGarbee Yes, it *can* block them from streams.
07:23:16 PMGoodGuy It phones home to known ports and web sites
07:23:17 PMGarbee If the URL's are in Adblocks list.
07:23:18 PMevermind adblock doesnt block from ustream
07:23:22 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I would just make a image of my harddrive, and then install windows 8 on it, and later put the image of my system back, so you don't always need a new computer for that
07:23:24 PMagamotto T0B33- increased traffic from your email address?
07:23:54 PMGregInTexas I don't block ads myself ...
07:23:57 PMGarbee It really is non-intrusive, I didn't know he had ads at first.
07:24:06 PMT0B33 I did not use email back then :/
07:24:32 PMGarbee They see all your traffic..
07:25:03 PMjaepea @robbief or anyone, i got a old version of ubuntu duel booting with windows. will ubuntu update to 11
07:25:08 PMGarbee They block me pretty quick.
07:25:19 PMGarbee 250 per 5 hour period, that is my limit.
07:25:23 PMGregInTexas why wouldn't it, jaepea?
07:25:27 PMagamotto jaepea- probably not... better off to clean install
07:25:54 PMT0B33 Thanks for the answer :)
07:26:01 PMDave-Maydew Jaepea which version of Ubuntu you got installed?
07:26:04 PMGregInTexas I have friends that update ubuntu ... seems to work ... I don't do that myself
07:26:10 PMevermind what i think about it, bring it on;)
07:26:15 PMGarbee jaepea, It is best to do a hand-upgrade to 11.10, since it is the first with GNome3 there are tons of little bugs and issues upgrading to it.
07:26:29 PMGarbee ^ upate = clean install.
07:26:33 PMYazid1965 @jaepea If you are using !0.04 to 11.10 of the Ubuntu family, you can use a ppa to update
07:26:37 PMDave-Maydew if it's 10.04 you'll be asked if you want to upgraded to 12.04LTS in April
07:26:41 PMDaniel__ Wait to upgrade straight to Ubuntu 12.04
07:26:49 PMjaepea thanks guys
07:26:50 PMagamotto Mostly businesses afraid to pay their IT staff
07:26:59 PMevermind i know a few companies who have ie6 still on their policies
07:27:18 PMIE6_Holdout Robbie hates me right now.
07:27:34 PMGregInTexas can you even use IE on ubuntu?
07:27:37 PMDave-Maydew but unity doesn't work on older nVidia cards
07:27:39 PMGregInTexas does it work with wine
07:27:39 PMjaepea i got 10
07:27:40 PMevermind well, ie8 is the last of the line in xp i last heard
07:27:40 PMagamotto jaepea- Also, wait about a month after any release comes out, that way many bugs are squashed...
07:27:41 PMDaniel__ Is there a gallery plugin for Wordpress that has similar functions as Gallery3 or Zenphoto?
07:27:46 PMGarbee Robbie, I never use the compatability stuff in IE>
07:28:00 PMinvinciblemutant hi
07:28:10 PMagamotto GregInTexas- WINE
07:28:10 PMemiel1976 hi
07:28:14 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, we miss you too when you are not broadcasting
07:28:22 PMGregInTexas does it work?
07:28:25 PMGarbee Eric is always a big bundle o' fun.
07:28:37 PMagamotto GregInTexas- Up to IE 8, yes
07:28:46 PMGarbee _Jot_, He does hang out while at work so he can avoid doing his work.
07:28:56 PMemiel1976 ie 10 works better
07:28:59 PMagamotto GregInTexas- I have no idea about later versions
07:29:04 PM_Jot_ I thought he went to work to avoid us, garbee
07:29:15 PMGregInTexas thanks agamotto
07:29:52 PMGarbee _Jot_, I don't know why he would do that.....
07:29:55 PMagamotto Why.... Why.... couldn't it have been Europa!?!?!?!?
07:29:59 PMGarbee Oh wiat... They pay him...
07:30:11 PMDave-Maydew Google are saying that so they can track them
07:30:13 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:30:25 PMGarbee Dave-Maydew, It isn't tracking, they DON'T CARE about you.
07:30:34 PMT0B33 Ooo i live in wales.
07:30:36 PMledzep Droid test
07:31:00 PMagamotto Wouldn't that money be better spent translating Welsh into something pronouncable?
07:31:18 PMagamotto Ok....
07:31:20 PMevermind looks like hoax
07:31:23 PMevermind hope this is real
07:31:24 PMevermind =)
07:31:38 PMGarbee Who is this Roy W Nash?
07:31:41 PMagamotto looks like some carbon fiber experiment
07:31:48 PMDave-Maydew My Linux mascot is listening to Robbie
07:32:02 PMagamotto Frozen-Bobble?
07:32:25 PMT0B33 Haha agamotto everyone says that to me :D
07:32:30 PMGregInTexas Wheat Grass juice ?
07:32:44 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:32:49 PMT0B33 Ynys mon try saying that :)
07:32:50 PMGregInTexas bay-tah!
07:32:58 PMagamotto Owwww,.. my bladder hurts!!!!!
07:32:59 PMDave-Maydew BEEEEETA
07:33:06 PMevermind focusfocusfocus
07:33:13 PMmaxwell6307 great movie
07:33:15 PMjaepea lmao
07:33:15 PMGregInTexas BAY-TAH!!!
07:33:21 PMT0B33 Hiii :)
07:33:23 PMagamotto Twice in one hour... my kidneys can't handle anymore!!!!
07:33:24 PMGarbee You see him?
07:33:29 PMDave-Maydew Its not unusual
07:33:31 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:33:34 PMDave-Maydew sorry
07:33:47 PMGarbee I want COD MW3!
07:33:52 PMpyrosrock RobbieF it was me!
07:33:55 PMDave-Maydew There's loads of GAMES
07:33:58 PMmathman47 RRobbie F just said it
07:34:00 PMGregInTexas try telling my daughter that ... she's a tux kart expert!
07:34:01 PMchrisreich chess is the only game I need
07:34:03 PMagamotto I play plenty of 'Windows' games under Linux
07:34:04 PMDave-Maydew I play WARZONE
07:34:09 PMDave-Maydew GETDEB
07:34:14 PMDaniel__ You can only play Tux Racer for so long
07:34:14 PMagamotto DDO, Oblivion, Civ 4.....
07:34:18 PMGregInTexas PlayDeb
07:34:20 PMGarbee Robbie just had to ignore the Intripia thing EricKidd ! He can't help but hurt since he knows it can't run in Linux on high detail.
07:34:22 PMemiel1976 THe games are years behind
07:34:38 PMDave-Maydew thats the one GregInTexas
07:34:49 PMGarbee I have had iffy results with DJL.
07:34:53 PMagamotto DJ El?
07:34:56 PMemiel1976 desura
07:34:57 PMGregInTexas got a ton of games Dave-Maydew
07:35:01 PMDrumstick Never heard of it
07:35:13 PMagamotto What, Morrocan DJ software?
07:35:17 PMGarbee There are some really good games in there though.
07:35:47 PMmathman47 How about Steam in Wine?
07:36:01 PMagamotto mathman47- I haven't tried it
07:36:06 PMGarbee mathman47, It can work, but only certain games. DJL is all Linux specific games.
07:36:07 PMjaepea only if steam was on ubuntu
07:36:30 PMagamotto I only do games I can get on shiny physical objects that I get to keep
07:36:43 PMGregInTexas comes up in the software center on 10.04
07:36:48 PMGarbee So old school agamotto
07:36:52 PMpyrosrock jaepea yeah mac gets steam y not ubuntu
07:37:01 PMmathman47 I only play Angry Birds - on many platforms
07:37:03 PMGarbee Wesnoth!
07:37:04 PM_Jot_ I bet it doesn't have Solitaire! Windows has that
07:37:06 PMravenlords so old
07:37:10 PMagamotto Garbee- I know, it is so odd to actually want to hold something...
07:37:14 PMDave-Maydew I still play OutRun in MAME
07:37:17 PMmaxwell6307 great game
07:37:32 PMG_Dog1985_ is it djl/
07:37:34 PMG_Dog1985_ ?
07:37:35 PMGarbee agamotto, I bought a disc recently, found out EA does not host the patches anymore. Last time I do that.
07:37:50 PMravenlords is it 19 90s
07:37:51 PMGarbee I will buy download only, so I know I get updates, namely Steam.
07:38:05 PMGregInTexas does it have leisure suit Larry?
07:38:08 PMGarbee Rachel is not on time.
07:38:15 PMGarbee No GregInTexas
07:38:19 PMagamotto I will most likely get Skyrim, once I figure out which nVidia card will work for me w/o needing mega power supply
07:38:21 PMDave-Maydew Xmoto is cool
07:38:22 PMGregInTexas shucks
07:38:22 PMchrisreich djl is not listed in the repositories for Debian.
07:38:24 PMScorpio55 I like Speed Dreams and Vdrift and Flightgear
07:38:40 PM_Jot_ Hillary would go near motorcycles, RobbieF is just chicken!
07:38:41 PMmathman47 RobbieF: Is there a Linux distro for tablets? NOOK Color running Android or HP Touchpad with WEBOs?
07:38:48 PMDaniel__ Nice french press
07:39:08 PMGoodGuy I dont see Wolfenstein
07:39:12 PMagamotto Garbee- Only if the software doesn't need to 'call home.' I insist on being able to play while off-line
07:39:14 PMGarbee You need to go grab it yourself.
07:39:21 PMGarbee DJL is in the Universe I believe of Ubuntu.
07:39:28 PMGoodGuy I had it preinstalled in PinguyOS
07:39:33 PMGregInTexas well, it's in ubuntu's software center ...
07:39:36 PMGarbee agamotto, Steam stuff typically doesn't.
07:39:39 PMGuest_3223 ultimate edition has a game edition,thats fun
07:39:49 PMchrisreich It was an observation, not a criticism, EricKidd. :-)
07:39:50 PMGoodGuy Spark Linux Tablet will run KDE
07:39:51 PMagamotto mathman47- Nook Color can be rooted for Android, not sure about *buntus
07:40:00 PMpyrosrock Assult Cube is awesome
07:40:18 PMGoodGuy They may show how to do it on other tablets
07:40:23 PMpyrosrock we shuld have a cat5TV server!
07:40:24 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, so you get paid for playing games now?
07:40:27 PMGarbee I want to run Ubuntu 12.04 on my Kindle Fire.
07:40:29 PMchrisreich RobbieF do we know what 'djl' stands for, if anything?
07:40:34 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, I dont see Wolfenstein
07:40:34 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, remember the 100% raise you got
07:40:36 PMagamotto Garbee- Which is why I like the idea of Steam, but don't use it. I don't want to be chained to UBISoft or anyone else
07:40:45 PMEricKidd Paid? Don't tell the other hosts!
07:40:58 PMGarbee agamotto, So don't buy Ubisoft games. Even if you buy theirs on disc it calls home, stupid DRM.
07:41:11 PMGregInTexas what game is he playing?
07:41:11 PMGarbee That is why I only buy their stuff for Consoles, so it doesn't require an internet connection to play.
07:41:14 PMagamotto Hmmm, Obilivion as a cat?
07:41:22 PMDaniel__ BaRamU
07:41:38 PMagamotto Garbee- I thought most console games called home now as well?
07:41:48 PMGarbee agamotto, No, if they do it is actually bad.
07:42:16 PMGarbee they are *rumored* to be adding something like that into the next Xbox, but nothing confirmed.
07:42:22 PMagamotto There are several games I don't own because of the 'calling home' issue. Same reason I don't do Blu-ray.
07:42:40 PMGarbee or a key system, so only the original purchaser can run the game, and if it is sold on the secondary market the purchaser needs to buy a new key to play.
07:42:59 PMGarbee Blu-ray's don't call home either, they just have new encryption keys every now-and-again.
07:43:08 PMGarbee So the player needs to remain updated with the latest keys.
07:43:20 PMagamotto Garbee- And the keys come from...
07:43:23 PMGarbee They *do* have BD-Live for extra content from the net, but not required.
07:43:36 PMDaniel__ Been linux user off and on since 1996 but I finally made the move permanently to Ubuntu
07:43:45 PMagamotto Daniel__- congrats
07:43:51 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, that will teach your friend to let you on his computer! It's so good of you to break it to teach him about backups, so he will realize it after the fact
07:43:57 PMGarbee agamotto, Keys are generated by Sony I belive and added into the Blu-Ray encryption software that companies use, then the player vendors update their firmware with the latest keys.
07:43:59 PMGoodGuy Disk space
07:44:03 PMT0B33 When you mentioned it last week i made 4 back ups haha thanks for the reminder RobbieF :)
07:44:10 PMagamotto People can't take 15 minutes out of their life to things that aren't 'fun.'
07:44:27 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF my wife just said Facebook
07:44:29 PMGarbee ^^ I like Metro, not going back to Linux.
07:44:36 PMagamotto If backup programs showed pr0n, more people would use it :)
07:45:02 PMGarbee agamotto, Please keep thing PG.
07:45:05 PMemiel1976 Just run 3 drives in raid 1
07:45:14 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, if you buy two drives, make sure they are from different manufacturers, so if one breaks, you have the other
07:45:24 PMagamotto Garbee- Tried, hence the intentional misspelling
07:45:35 PMVE3NSO Roy will talk to u later for sure !
07:45:40 PMGarbee Don't even mispell it on purpose.
07:45:41 PMjaepea get a pogoplug
07:45:57 PMGarbee Too easy to guess out what it is.
07:45:58 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, if you buy two of the same kind at the same time, often they fail at the same time too
07:46:13 PMagamotto Is that the dongle that has the software on the 'key?'
07:46:21 PMemiel1976 RobbieF yea an unboxing live
07:46:33 PMGarbee agamotto, What?
07:46:36 PMScorpio55 VE3NSO RR QSY SKYPE in 10 mins
07:46:50 PMGuest_3223 PoGo
07:46:59 PMagamotto Plug in USB thingy that you push the button, and it backs everything up...
07:47:07 PMpyrosrock um... RobbieF i doubt it will all fit as my com is using ~3Tb
07:47:22 PMinvinciblemutant is offering 50GB for free to android users
07:47:28 PMGarbee Oh, the automatic backup thing Robbie is showing off. I thought you were talking about Blu-Ray keys for a second.
07:47:39 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:47:41 PMagamotto 50GB on Android? wow
07:47:44 PM_Jot_ I'm using about 7.75TB right now
07:47:48 PMGarbee Skydrive gives me 25GB free by default, why do I need more than that?
07:47:49 PMinvinciblemutant check out android market
07:47:57 PM_Jot_ got 915GB free out of 8.76TB according to windows
07:47:59 PMinvinciblemutant till 23rd March
07:48:28 PMmathman47 Blue screen of Death?
07:49:05 PMGarbee Desktop.... Close enough for most.
07:49:45 PMinvinciblemutant provided that autorun is enabled
07:49:56 PMGregInTexas lol ... wherez that ad block ...
07:49:58 PMinvinciblemutant i normally disable autorun
07:50:09 PMagamotto Isn't autorun disabled on Vista +
07:50:39 PMGuest_3223 OS to?
07:50:59 PMagamotto So this clickfree only does Win backups....
07:51:04 PMGarbee Your download time may vary, since Robbie is on an 80Mb/s down pipe.
07:51:19 PMGarbee agamotto, It only does it automatically with Windows.
07:51:27 PMGregInTexas rsync ...
07:51:34 PMGarbee Git
07:51:37 PMagamotto Cloudzilla sounds better already
07:51:52 PMagamotto At least I can do that from a cd...
07:51:57 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, where is it downloading the updates, on the computer, or to the drive, so it doesn't have to update again next time?
07:51:58 PMGarbee You need to re-initialize the software.
07:52:08 PMGarbee Yes RobbieF Good guess young padawan.
07:52:24 PMGarbee You could have re-run from my-computer.
07:52:29 PMGarbee It is just an EXE on the drive.
07:53:35 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, How do you backup your Unraid system?
07:53:37 PMagamotto So, essentially it just backs up My Documents?
07:53:46 PMGarbee GoodGuy, That is the backup.
07:54:01 PMinvinciblemutant I think there is a built in version of backup software on windows such as easy transfer
07:54:02 PMGoodGuy and if that gets destroyed?
07:54:10 PMGoodGuy fire etc
07:54:15 PMGarbee Yea, Windows has a built in tool now.
07:54:19 PMGoodGuy theft like in the past?
07:54:24 PMagamotto invinciblemutant- yes, Easy Transfer can be used that way
07:54:36 PMGarbee You can even make an ISO of windows from it to re-install from a given point with all installed software at time of backup.
07:54:58 PMagamotto Hmmm, progress
07:55:31 PMGarbee EXPENSIVE!
07:55:33 PMagamotto People who don't do backups get charged extra by me...
07:56:02 PMSovereignEntity Garbee Windows 7 has this backup program?
07:56:09 PMGarbee SovereignEntity, Yes.
07:56:15 PMGarbee Since Vista.
07:56:40 PMagamotto Your UPS should warn you of that...
07:56:45 PM_Jot_ Windows has had backup-software since windows 95, just nobody ever uses it
07:56:52 PMGuest_3223 Live on thewild side
07:57:16 PM_Jot_ actually, there has been backup-software in all windows and dos-versions since dos 2 or so
07:57:16 PMevermind live time warranty?
07:57:22 PMevermind on that device
07:57:47 PMloki2 apprently there was a solar storm in qubec in 1989
07:58:05 PMagamotto loki2- that one was very bad
07:58:17 PMloki2 really
07:58:19 PMGarbee Ooo, looks liek the backup software built in is better in Win 8 CP.
07:58:27 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, don't your files fall off if you take that portable drive, and hold it upside down or something?
07:58:27 PMagamotto took out Quebec and a lot of the NE in the US
07:58:44 PMDave-Maydew There's another HUGE solar storm due
07:58:48 PMGarbee I do most things in the cloud now, No real use for a backup.
07:58:52 PMagamotto _Jot_- Only when you let out the blue smoke...
07:59:02 PMGarbee My "backup" is actually my local version.
07:59:27 PMGarbee Carbonite...?
07:59:40 PMGarbee I swear I heard Leo Laporte just now.
07:59:49 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you should never pick up a drive that is operating like that!
07:59:57 PMagamotto Keep your local backup in a bug-out bag/kit... I do.
08:00:00 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you might have broken it now!!!
08:00:12 PMGarbee They make Borgs!
08:00:42 PMGregInTexas Great show tonight, guys!
08:00:45 PMchrisreich all my best to everyone - even Goodguy
08:00:50 PMDave-Maydew Another great show!!
08:00:53 PMinvinciblemutant good night
08:00:57 PMT0B33 Great show guys thanks for the answers see you next week :)
08:00:59 PMagamotto No please, no thank you, do your backups or get charged extra!
08:01:00 PMagamotto heheheheh
08:01:02 PMDave-Maydew Thabks RobbieF
08:01:07 PM_Jot_ Poor harddrive, it was just new, and already a potential headcrash
08:01:08 PMRobbieF thanks everyone!
08:01:11 PMDave-Maydew thanks even
08:01:13 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
08:01:19 PMmathman47 Thanks Ribbie & Eric.
08:01:20 PMgpop7 goodnight everyone.
08:01:22 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, .. I have a question... I want to use an easy video editor to cut clips from MP4 shows like Cat5
08:01:37 PMDave-Maydew I must go to bed
08:01:43 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- How are things in your neck of the UK?
08:01:58 PMGoodGuy Might be several segments I wish to cut out and keep as separate files
08:02:00 PMDave-Maydew things are ok
08:02:01 PMEricKidd G'night Dave-Maydew!
08:02:07 PMGoodGuy any suggestions?
08:02:19 PMDave-Maydew I'm having health issues now
08:02:23 PMmaxwell6307 nite all take care
08:02:31 PMagamotto hmmmm, Pitivi?
08:02:32 PMGoodGuy nite maxwell6307
08:02:47 PMGoodGuy I'll take a look at that agamotto
08:02:48 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- nothing too serious, I hope
08:02:54 PMDave-Maydew my Hydrocephalus is not doing what it's supposed to
08:03:04 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- That isn't good
08:03:12 PMDave-Maydew so I may have to go and have an operation to sort it
08:03:20 PMG_Dog1985_ Garbee: try to install from src fails
08:03:23 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- more drainage?
08:03:32 PMDave-Maydew possible
08:03:34 PMG_Dog1985_ the setup.pfy
08:03:42 PMG_Dog1985_ the
08:03:48 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- Wow, not fun
08:03:48 PMG_Dog1985_ notworking
08:03:50 PMDave-Maydew seems the current shunt has collapsed
08:03:59 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- how many years?
08:04:27 PMDave-Maydew I've had it since birth but the current shunt I've had in since I was 12
08:04:33 PMDave-Maydew I'm 37 now
08:04:47 PMagamotto I am impressed that it has lasted that long
08:04:54 PMDave-Maydew so it's past it's sell by date
08:05:07 PMDave-Maydew I'm amazed also
08:05:13 PMpyrosrock RobbieF what mouse are u using/do u use?
08:05:18 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- That, or you need to quit doing inverted yoga positions.... chuckle
08:05:38 PMRobbieF I use a trackball (Logitech Trackman wireless) pyrosrock
08:05:41 PMDave-Maydew lol
08:05:50 PMRobbieF here at the studio I have just a standard USB mouse, but hoping to upgrade to a Level 10.
08:05:59 PMEightMilesFromTJ Good Guy - I've used OpenShot for editing mp4s.
08:06:01 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- no more downward dog with twist for you!
08:06:09 PMGarbee
08:06:18 PMDave-Maydew the headaches are the worst
08:06:21 PMGoodGuy Thanks EightMilesFromTJ
08:06:35 PMGoodGuy Is it fairly easy to use?
08:06:41 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- Well, duh. Swelling wouldn't be good for anyone... talk about bloated
08:06:42 PMDave-Maydew think of a migraine and times it by 40
08:06:54 PMGarbee GoodGuy, Openshot is very easy.
08:07:19 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- No thanks, had migraines as a teen, never want to go bak
08:07:21 PMGoodGuy Cool I'll take a look at that
08:07:50 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- Well, toddle off and get some rest.
08:07:51 PMDave-Maydew but I'm surviving thanks to a plastic straw :-)
08:07:54 PMEightMilesFromTJ It is pretty intuitive. Robbie did a show on it a while back. Check out some past episodes
08:07:58 PMpyrosrock RobbieF well that looks difrent i have a RAT 7 and i have to say the ajustments make my wrists %100 happier
08:08:07 PMGarbee G_Dog1985_, Looking at GNS3 again it seems to still be more than you need.
08:08:35 PMDave-Maydew pain meds and my hobbies help so I'm fine
08:08:37 PMGoodGuy Looking at their web site for PPA;s
08:08:52 PMGarbee Honestly, that low-level stuff you are doing is just done in most peoples heads. And testing things like squd servers is nowhere near accurate in a network sim except for details on configuration since real-world speeds vary so much.
08:09:16 PMGarbee err... High-level stuff. Low-level is using Cisco IOS for configuration directly.
08:09:19 PMDave-Maydew Good night everyone, will be back in and out over the week
08:09:32 PMGoodGuy Comments on Piviti in software center arent very good
08:09:43 PMDave-Maydew Agamotto Dad is fine too
08:09:59 PMagamotto Hmmm, I think I will lounge on the couch and read for the evening... I have no desire to watch election coverage all evening...
08:10:04 PMagamotto GoodGuy- I wasn't sure
08:10:04 PMDave-Maydew will be seeing him tomorrow
08:10:09 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- coolies
08:10:24 PMGarbee Pitivi is very basic, and I have had some issues with it personally.
08:10:26 PMDave-Maydew Speak over the week
08:10:32 PMGarbee It got comments since it was default for a while.
08:10:36 PMDave-Maydew need my beauty sleep lol
08:10:37 PMGarbee Then they got smart and took it out.
08:10:52 PMDave-Maydew but I think I'm past that stage now
08:10:54 PMDave-Maydew hehehehe
08:10:57 PMagamotto I have used Pitivi, but only for simple things
08:11:13 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew- hey, it still keeps you from eating people...
08:11:29 PMDave-Maydew yeah :-)
08:11:55 PMGoodGuy All I want to do is cut out segments like the game one, backup part etc
08:12:07 PMDave-Maydew my wife has too put up with a lot, but she's a carer anyway
08:12:13 PMGarbee GoodGuy, OpenShot is GREAT for just doing that.
08:12:17 PMGarbee and adding some nice transitions.
08:12:31 PMDave-Maydew chat laters
08:12:36 PMGarbee It is what I was buidling the Cat5 Web Dev DVD stuff with when I was working on that project.
08:12:50 PMDave-Maydew good night Scorpio and Agamotto
08:12:50 PMGoodGuy good deal... I'll play with it
08:13:02 PMGoodGuy Gotta run... thanks everyone
08:13:03 PMDave-Maydew and RobbieF and everyone else
08:17:33 PMGarbee Night everyone.
08:17:39 PMravenlords night
08:19:08 PMravenlords RobbieF do you now whut dd-wrt i need for my Netgear WNR3500L router
08:20:33 PM_Jot_ it's for his tan, pyrosrock
08:21:14 PMpyrosrock i was thinking it might be but then why is it so non existant
08:21:17 PMpyrosrock ?
08:21:28 PM_Jot_ cause he hides behind all those monitors
08:21:43 PM_Jot_ that's why it only reaches the top of his head and why that looks so shiny
08:21:57 PMpyrosrock mm... something seems redundant there
08:23:25 PMRobbieF need the lights because we still have to take the photos for the show pages.
08:23:48 PMRobbieF ravenlords, I'm on show notes now; can you please email your question via - I'd love to help.
08:24:31 PMGuest_3223 RobbieF are you in the chat room? I have some thing for you.


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