| 06:58:05 PM | G_Dog1985_ | i remeber that yr
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| 06:58:11 PM | Hillary | shalom in the home!....mega delay, my apologies.
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| 06:58:21 PM | G_Dog1985_ | i as in okalhoma
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| 06:58:32 PM | GregInTexas | ok was hot too
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| 06:58:45 PM | _Jot_ | hey Hillary, at least you came a whole 15 minutes before the show starts instead of 15 seconds, so it's all good
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| 06:58:49 PM | GregInTexas | this area burned up
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| 06:58:51 PM | Hillary | bahaha, true sya
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| 06:58:53 PM | Hillary | say*
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| 06:58:57 PM | G_Dog1985_ | i love it
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| 06:59:10 PM | _Jot_ | hi everybody I didn't say hello too
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| 06:59:34 PM | G_Dog1985_ | in june okc burn some
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| 06:59:35 PM | Valpenone | hi _Jot_
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| 06:59:35 PM | agamotto | How are you lot?
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| 07:00:23 PM | _Jot_ | wow, new Hillary in the intro
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| 07:00:25 PM | Garbee | Wow, quite the photo Hillary.
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| 07:00:26 PM | GregInTexas | holy cow, greg, turn down the volume ... lol
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| 07:00:33 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- So, have you and Eric registered your china pattern yet? ;)
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| 07:00:46 PM | ajamison5579 | Homemade Tacos for dinner
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| 07:00:47 PM | _Jot_ | Greg! Please turn down the volume! I can hear it here in the netherlands!
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| 07:01:01 PM | G_Dog1985_ | ????
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| 07:01:05 PM | agamotto | "Young and sweet, only 17..."
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| 07:01:29 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Thrift stores.
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| 07:01:43 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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| 07:01:48 PM | G_Dog1985_ | oh
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| 07:01:49 PM | pyrosrock | whoo i made it
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| 07:02:01 PM | ajamison5579 | Mum? that is to English a word
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| 07:02:12 PM | chrisreich | Is Hillary getting married? I didn't get the memo.
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| 07:02:15 PM | Garbee | Hillary, My schoolmates did the same things for a 70's week at my school a few years ago. Thrift store digging.
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| 07:02:20 PM | agamotto | Surprisingly, leisure suits are still seen here in Midwest America
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| 07:02:21 PM | ajamison5579 | Thought Canadians were supposed to be more American like
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| 07:02:22 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:02:24 PM | agamotto | Yay, me!
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| 07:02:32 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary didn't even ask me to marry, so I have no idea why she's getting the ideas from
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| 07:02:38 PM | invinciblemutant | hi
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| 07:02:40 PM | chaslinux | congrats agamotto
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| 07:02:43 PM | agamotto | Sadly, yes it will from time to time. Working full time is worth it.
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| 07:02:49 PM | GregInTexas | yea, congrats agamotto
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| 07:03:04 PM | VE3NSO | Good Evening To All In the Chat Room !
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| 07:03:13 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- They are, minus the gun violence... snicker
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| 07:03:17 PM | chrisreich | I don't miss working. I miss traveling, though.
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| 07:03:18 PM | chaslinux | Well not dropped, just no longer funded...
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| 07:03:19 PM | _Jot_ | hi people who just joined
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| 07:03:40 PM | GregInTexas | I want one
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| 07:03:40 PM | emiel1976_ | Hi Jot
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| 07:03:41 PM | rick505 | Try and actually buy one for $25
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| 07:03:48 PM | _Jot_ | chrisreich, there's this new thing, travelling while not working, they call it 'vacation' or 'holiday'
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| 07:03:53 PM | invinciblemutant | i think the the biggest news should be oracle is suing google
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| 07:03:58 PM | invinciblemutant | eventually
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| 07:04:02 PM | chaslinux | Robbie you forgot to mention RasberryPi has hi definition video....
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| 07:04:05 PM | GregInTexas | It's $35 ... but you can't actually get 'em, I know
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| 07:04:09 PM | chaslinux | chipset
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| 07:04:20 PM | chrisreich | but I've been spoiled by traveling while on expense account.
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| 07:04:20 PM | rick505 | Plus about $20 processing
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| 07:04:23 PM | ajamison5579 | Cannonical abandoning Ubuntu why am I the only one who saw this coming
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| 07:04:29 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- ooooo, fancy
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| 07:04:37 PM | ajamison5579 | Cannonical is not very Open anymore
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| 07:04:37 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- ?!?!!?
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| 07:04:41 PM | rick505 | Kubuntu you mean??
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| 07:04:53 PM | GregInTexas | cannonical abandoning ubuntu ???
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| 07:05:01 PM | ajamison5579 | is that not what they just said
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| 07:05:03 PM | Garbee | GregInTexas, Kubuntu.
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| 07:05:04 PM | _Jot_ | I've heard about the pi that the videochip in it is fast, but becuase of licensing it can't actuall be used, so it isn't as fast as it could be
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| 07:05:07 PM | GregInTexas | oh, yea, kubuntu
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| 07:05:11 PM | chaslinux | ajamison5579: not the case, they are simply no longer paying the Kubuntu project
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| 07:05:13 PM | Garbee | The KDE varient. It just didn't show a profit.
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| 07:05:17 PM | agamotto | "I find your offensiveness to be very offensive."
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| 07:05:39 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, keep the postcards in front of your face, it's an improvement!
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| 07:05:44 PM | ajamison5579 | still I ammend my previous statement they are no supporting kubuntu but they are still not very open anymore
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| 07:05:56 PM | agamotto | Oooooh la la, la lalalalalalalalala
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| 07:05:58 PM | GregInTexas | kubuntu will keep going minus the Canonical financing
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| 07:06:00 PM | RobbieF | Thanks Jot :)
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| 07:06:29 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, Kubuntu was mainly just a drain on cash. It is a *business* move to drop it and focus elsewhere. Otherwise there will be no more canonical, therefore no more *buntu's.
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| 07:06:49 PM | Garbee | Yea, another company has picked up Kubuntu funding.
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| 07:06:58 PM | agamotto | I wasn't aware that Kubuntu was that popular... who knew?
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| 07:07:15 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee alot of the moves Cannonical has taken in the last few years have made it more closed
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| 07:07:16 PM | Garbee | agamotto, I can't tell if that is sarcasm, or serious.
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| 07:07:16 PM | chrisreich | Kubuntu has already gotten a different corporate sponsor. Don't ask me who, though.
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| 07:07:25 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, In your eyes...
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| 07:07:28 PM | agamotto | Garbee- strew
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| 07:07:42 PM | agamotto | Garbee- 'strewth
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| 07:07:44 PM | Scorpio55 | Kubuntu is most used os in South America
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| 07:07:46 PM | GoodGuy | Blue something on Kubuntu
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| 07:07:47 PM | toxi07 | Blue Systems
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| 07:07:54 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, you should go there too and donate to get the MP3s, they are actually quite good
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| 07:08:09 PM | _Jot_ | of course unless you get an employee-discount
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| 07:08:27 PM | rick505 | If yo listen to the latest UBuntu UK podcast ther is an interview about Kubuntu, etc.
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| 07:08:33 PM | agamotto | oooo, a trew scottsmann
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| 07:08:34 PM | rick505 | Typo's
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| 07:09:01 PM | _Jot_ | I wonder how he would say Jot
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| 07:09:02 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee look at the open source contributions of Cannonical when it formed compared to how it is now and you will see that they contribute upstream not nearly as much
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| 07:09:03 PM | GregInTexas | kewl
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| 07:09:04 PM | invinciblemutant | Edinburg
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| 07:09:05 PM | _Jot_ | and things like Beta and so on
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| 07:09:20 PM | _Jot_ | hey smittysmit
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| 07:09:30 PM | invinciblemutant | what lang is this
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| 07:09:35 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, Because no one upstream wants their patches. It is the upstream problem. Gnome is more closed than canonical FYI.
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| 07:09:53 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee if that is the case I stand corrected
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| 07:10:15 PM | agamotto | I spent a good chunk of Saturday evening wrangling a roll of carpet back onto the roller-machine
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| 07:10:17 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, It pretty much is. Canonical is at least listening to people about issues. The Gnome team is simply ignoring people.
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| 07:10:25 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, what should I do if I call to leave a voicemail, and you actually pick up the phone so I can't leave a voicemail?
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| 07:10:32 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I ask because just hanging up is so impolite
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| 07:10:39 PM | Garbee | Since Gnome 3.x the Gnome team has sucked when it comes to feedback.
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| 07:10:57 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee thats good to know
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| 07:10:59 PM | agamotto | Garbee- What is wrong with Canonical's patches? I haven't heard much about this issue
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| 07:11:06 PM | chrisreich | Garbee are you saying that Debian & Gnome resist patches from Ubuntu? That's news to me.
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| 07:11:44 PM | Garbee | agamotto, It is how it has always been. Canonical wants things done one way, but no one else does. So they just don't accept the patches unless it is an actual bug-fix. (From what I have seen.) But I haven't checked lately.
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| 07:11:58 PM | GoodGuy | ifconfig eth0
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| 07:12:03 PM | agamotto | Garbee- Ah.... I wasn't aware
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| 07:12:07 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, They alway's have, it is nothing new.
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| 07:12:11 PM | Michaeliowa | Hi Hillary :) nice to see you back!!
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| 07:12:16 PM | GoodGuy | or ifconfig
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| 07:12:42 PM | Garbee | Wait a minute.. July 1st... Do I need to pull another all-nighter?
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| 07:12:45 PM | Golfgeo | Hi all :-)
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| 07:12:55 PM | ajamison5579 | Beeta are you a sheep RobbieF? Its Beta B-A-Ta
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| 07:13:00 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, of course, and starting July 1st
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| 07:13:04 PM | chrisreich | Well Garbee that's one *more* thing I've learned today. It's been an educational day for me.
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| 07:13:06 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, by July 1, I might be ready to try 12.04
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| 07:13:11 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, that means, no more sleep for you, so learn to do without it
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| 07:13:26 PM | agamotto | heeheheheh
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| 07:13:34 PM | U-Al | oh my
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| 07:13:37 PM | evermind | lynx http://whatismyip.com
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| 07:13:53 PM | evermind | works in the shell
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| 07:14:01 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, don't worry, you always look great
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| 07:14:07 PM | evermind | some good firewalls/routers have it in their webinterface
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| 07:14:10 PM | Hillary | hahahahahaaaaa oh man, soooo funny
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| 07:14:12 PM | evermind | showing the actual external ip
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| 07:14:25 PM | agamotto | I love lynx for quick Google News updates
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| 07:14:56 PM | evermind | yea.or via grabbing the website in wget mode
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| 07:15:11 PM | evermind | curl is fun in that matter too
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| 07:15:32 PM | agamotto | I think I was using lynx on my Amiga, back when I had very low vision.
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| 07:15:45 PM | evermind | lynx is an awesome tool
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| 07:15:45 PM | evermind | for many reasons
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| 07:15:48 PM | chrisreich | Drink! "exECutable"
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| 07:15:49 PM | Golfgeo | Got a question: Having some problems with my realtec rtl8139d network cards... Some how my latest purcheses include a netrom boot menu... How do I for bleep sakes get rid of it... or... know what versions of the chip have the boot menu and what versions do not... t.i.a.! :-)
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| 07:15:53 PM | _Jot_ | Amigas were great for video-effects to make things bigger and so on
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| 07:16:03 PM | evermind | i do check some of my websites in lynx, if theyre still usable there...
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| 07:16:46 PM | evermind | one could also pipe wget to speex, so you get your ip spoken to you
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| 07:17:01 PM | _Jot_ | Golfgeo, seperate RTL-cards need an extra bootp-chip on it, for it to work. Integrated in motherboards, it needs to be included and enabled in the bios
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| 07:17:04 PM | evermind | wargames anyone?
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| 07:17:05 PM | evermind | =)
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| 07:17:08 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Back then, I was using a 19" tv as my monitor...
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| 07:17:21 PM | GoodGuy | Have you read the manual Golfgeo .... It may have how to get into the cards BIOS and disable it
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| 07:17:44 PM | Hillary | @Golfgeo--I will try to address that shortly with Robbie.
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| 07:17:51 PM | evermind | oh, i thought it was because nano is default on ubuntu;)
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| 07:17:57 PM | Garbee | Golfgeo, Turn off NIC booting in your BIOS.
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| 07:17:59 PM | Golfgeo | Hillary: Thanks! :-)
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| 07:18:01 PM | evermind | joking asside, nano is a good tool
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| 07:18:06 PM | Golfgeo | Garbee I did haha
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| 07:18:12 PM | agamotto | Nano, Gedit, whatever works for you
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| 07:18:21 PM | Garbee | Golfgeo, For the expansion card or your internal card?
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| 07:18:28 PM | pyrosrock | i can never get anywhere with nano
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| 07:18:30 PM | GoodGuy | gedit is the default editor on Ubuntu afaik
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| 07:18:31 PM | chrisreich | random linux information for any who need to know: Arch Linux does not allow you to create filesystems with options such as 'noatime' during the installation. I learned this today.
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| 07:18:35 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, when I run an emulator, I often run it in tv-mode, just for nostalgic reasons cause it doesn't look right otherwise
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| 07:18:42 PM | Golfgeo | Garbee Old school here, PCI cards
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| 07:18:44 PM | Garbee | GoodGuy, For GUI yes, for terminal it is nano.
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| 07:18:44 PM | evermind | one can also use php on commandline to parse the website, filter out all html entities via regex and store the string somewhere
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| 07:18:56 PM | evermind | i.e. a db, if youre on dsl or dialup and got a recently changing ip, that can be fun
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| 07:19:00 PM | Garbee | Golfgeo, That is still an expansion card.
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| 07:19:10 PM | Golfgeo | using bonding to acces the 8 gig backplane of my switch...
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| 07:19:17 PM | _Jot_ | Golfgeo, like I said, for old PCI cards, the bootp-chips were seperate purchases, and it is not included in the regular card-bios
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| 07:19:19 PM | GoodGuy | Cool Garbee .. I didnt realize the terminal had a default
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| 07:19:43 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Have you noticed in commercials how badly 'flying text' stutters across the screen? It amazes me that 20 years after the Amiga, no one else has figured out how to properly flicker-fix.
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| 07:19:53 PM | evermind | another good tool is watch
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| 07:19:57 PM | evermind | for a more plain way to do it
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| 07:20:03 PM | _Jot_ | Golfgeo, so look at the card, if it has a slot for a seperate chip, if it is not filled, you can't use it to boot, and also newer cards don't even have the slot anymore
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| 07:20:03 PM | Garbee | GoodGuy, it always does. EDITOR=$editor $do_something to set a new editor for the purpose of that command, such as ( EDITOR=nano visudo ).
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| 07:20:07 PM | chrisreich | evermind - nano is my tool of choice for quick edits. Nano rocks.
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| 07:20:13 PM | Golfgeo | _Jot_: Well, I've got versions with and without a socket and they run the boot screen on multiple pc's... while others with or without the socket do not..
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| 07:20:33 PM | evermind | nano is very useful, i sometimes run pico though, and if i just got nothing else, vi, in some rare funny moments, even emacs
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| 07:20:37 PM | evermind | i cannot say which one i like most
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| 07:20:37 PM | pyrosrock | sweet thanks RobbieF
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| 07:20:40 PM | GoodGuy | Interesting Garbee .... I didnt know
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| 07:20:49 PM | evermind | i guess its what does the job best at the moment
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| 07:20:58 PM | Garbee | Golfgeo, You could just move the NIC to the bottom of the boot order, then it should never show up.
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| 07:20:58 PM | _Jot_ | it is possible that some manufacturers made rtl-8139 cards with the bootp chip integrated, but that's not as intended
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| 07:21:18 PM | Garbee | Or it could have a special command (like mind is Ctrl + X) to access its own config menu, then disable it from in there.
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| 07:22:06 PM | GoodGuy | I believe I have an Intel card and it checks the BIOS even with that last in boot order
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| 07:22:07 PM | _Jot_ | I remember because I always wondered why my 8139 wouldn't boot, and later I got an old business-pc from somebody who had one with a chip, and that explained the mystery :)
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| 07:22:44 PM | agamotto | Coming up with some ideas at least
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| 07:23:01 PM | Golfgeo | Nope, not truying to boot from it...
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| 07:23:01 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, He is trying to disable the boot menu completely.
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| 07:23:01 PM | Garbee | (for the card)
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| 07:23:02 PM | GoodGuy | It doesnt boot since no Prom chip
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| 07:23:02 PM | Golfgeo | k, thanks hillary and robby! :-)
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| 07:23:27 PM | evermind | hmmm, big file?
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| 07:23:37 PM | evermind | ok, i guess everyone has to have their stats)
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| 07:23:47 PM | agamotto | as htn, usually
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| 07:23:56 PM | Garbee | http://cat5.tv/pulse
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| 07:24:05 PM | ajamison5579 | RobbieF promoting a key logger ?
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| 07:24:08 PM | _Jot_ | Golfgeo, if you have the ability, try including some screenshots of the menus you're trying to disable when you send email to live@category5.tv because there are different types of bootmenus
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| 07:24:20 PM | sumone | will Conky it work with Tor?
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| 07:24:21 PM | evermind | if its just a counter, probably not, ajamison5579
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| 07:24:21 PM | Golfgeo | _Jot_: The interated thing seems to be the problem... With or without the bootrom intergated...
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| 07:24:30 PM | GregInTexas | I wanted to switch to dvorack, but just wasn't practical at the time
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| 07:24:35 PM | pyrosrock | ajamison5579 dosent log it in any order
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| 07:24:38 PM | agamotto | Dvorak can be worth it if you can change all the machines you use regularly to it.
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| 07:24:43 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, I JUST pulsed to get on top...
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| 07:24:44 PM | Golfgeo | But... Thanks for the sugestions people, will try them out! :-)
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| 07:25:00 PM | Garbee | Robbie would kill us all if this counted his v3 coding. That sadly is not.
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| 07:25:21 PM | pyrosrock | Garbee im guna catch u
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| 07:25:43 PM | Garbee | http://wiki.category5.tv/tutorials:whatpulse_linux ... Still early, but there for getting autostart going.
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| 07:25:57 PM | _Jot_ | but Robbie, i can not win that clickrace, because there is auto-use-tool on Entropia so I don't click so much anymore
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| 07:26:02 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, Good luck.
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| 07:27:29 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Using startup program works perfect for me by default. Whatpulse starts just fine. (Might be a 12.04 thing though)
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| 07:27:58 PM | chrisreich | what is the date we're expecting Ubunto 12.04?
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| 07:28:02 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ the ratings are on keyboard strokes
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| 07:28:09 PM | _Jot_ | same problem :)
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| 07:28:19 PM | _Jot_ | although I do explain and talk a lot, when people ask stuff
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| 07:28:26 PM | Garbee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
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| 07:28:33 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- Around 29.4, if memory serves.
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| 07:28:45 PM | Garbee | 26th is expected 12.04 date.
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| 07:29:03 PM | pyrosrock | Robbie make the other com the synergy host
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| 07:29:13 PM | chrisreich | thanks guys
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| 07:29:23 PM | GoodGuy | KVM switch?
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| 07:29:44 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, It still won't count. It is because Synergy switches hardware based input to software based on all systems, which don't get counted.
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| 07:29:51 PM | Garbee | Hardware input only for WhatPulse.
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| 07:30:12 PM | GregInTexas | kewl
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| 07:30:17 PM | pyrosrock | yeah but if u have whatpulse on the synergy host
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| 07:30:20 PM | _Jot_ | you could of course use a master control computer, and log that, and run everything else as VMs
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| 07:30:30 PM | Golfgeo | Don't get that dropping ubuntu versions, but he... a little loss that seems to be coverd now...
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| 07:30:38 PM | ErikaL | Hey every one :)
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| 07:30:44 PM | _Jot_ | hello ErikaL
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| 07:30:47 PM | agamotto | Put some cookies on it as payload!
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| 07:31:00 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, Still wont' work.
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| 07:31:11 PM | Garbee | It takes the hardware input and converts to software on both systems.
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| 07:31:19 PM | ErikaL | How is every one tonight :)
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| 07:31:21 PM | Garbee | Therefore all input is software based to WhatPulse, which is not counted.
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| 07:31:21 PM | pyrosrock | hmm ok then
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| 07:31:23 PM | GoodGuy | lol $25,000 is tip money for a company that size
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| 07:31:24 PM | Garbee | Hello ErikaL.
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| 07:31:55 PM | GoodGuy | They fined Dupont of Sarnia $30,000 for polluting the St Clair River
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| 07:31:58 PM | pyrosrock | hey ErikaL good yourself?
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| 07:32:13 PM | GoodGuy | The donated more than that just because
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| 07:32:19 PM | agamotto | ErikaL- Enjoying a day off without rain
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| 07:32:24 PM | invinciblemutant | the big on is oracle share android profit
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| 07:32:26 PM | invinciblemutant | big one
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| 07:32:29 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, In the US, not after 5th amendment invoking. It gets very difficult to prosecute at that point.
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| 07:32:30 PM | chrisreich | I question whether the FCC has authority to fine anyone for 'impeding an investigation'
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| 07:32:35 PM | _Jot_ | Problem is that the guy was not accused as a person, but was questioned as an employee, so he did not have 5th amendment rights, that would only be if he was questioned personally about his actions
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| 07:32:49 PM | GoodGuy | Think it was Dupont Chemical.. It was a Chemical co near Sarnia in the 1970's
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| 07:32:58 PM | ErikaL | Well last night i sprained my ankle :( so i just got out of the hospital 5 min ago every thing is good though :D
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| 07:33:00 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, No, 5th amendment applies at any time government asks something.
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| 07:33:19 PM | MrLuluApples | Video was frozen for me, just refreshed all better now
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| 07:33:26 PM | Garbee | The conversation about 5th amendment stuff is over there, starts getting too political.
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| 07:33:26 PM | chrisreich | _Jot_ he did have any and all Rights he asserted and protected. Just like all of us.
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| 07:33:29 PM | GoodGuy | I have seen companies pay several thousand on holiday lunches for employees
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| 07:33:38 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, yes, but in this case, it was as google said that, impeding the investigation, because it was a representative of google, not a private person
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| 07:33:43 PM | invinciblemutant | more photos
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| 07:34:01 PM | ErikaL | I wish i did not sprain it i could of been enjoying the nice outdoors !!
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| 07:34:04 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- Until the President or Congress decide to do away with them ;0
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| 07:34:07 PM | Garbee | Jot matters not in US law. That is all that will be said to it anymore.
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| 07:34:33 PM | sumone | RobbieF your cam looks a little out of focus
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| 07:34:36 PM | smittysmit | Just bought a 32G from Newegg for $25
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| 07:34:50 PM | MrLuluApples | Cool
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| 07:34:55 PM | GoodGuy | good price smittysmit
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| 07:34:56 PM | pyrosrock | yes i need one id buy a usb flash drive if only more than 16gb
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| 07:34:57 PM | sumone | Good now
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| 07:34:58 PM | chrisreich | agamotto even if they do, there is still a way to do it. I know how it's done correctly.
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| 07:35:22 PM | MrLuluApples | Ooh, that has my vote
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| 07:35:22 PM | pyrosrock | does it charge of usb
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| 07:35:27 PM | agamotto | chrisreich- you would be one of the few, then.
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| 07:35:29 PM | GoodGuy | No on 2nd.. blocks other ports
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| 07:35:32 PM | smittysmit | flashlight...no like
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| 07:35:40 PM | ajamison5579 | I do not like that it does not have the metal shield over the prongs
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| 07:35:45 PM | invinciblemutant | elegant look
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| 07:35:47 PM | GregInTexas | too big
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| 07:35:49 PM | MrLuluApples | I spoke way too soon.
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| 07:35:52 PM | U-Al | nice
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| 07:35:52 PM | GoodGuy | Also blocks other ports
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| 07:35:53 PM | MrLuluApples | Nice!
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| 07:35:54 PM | agamotto | Now that is sexy design
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| 07:35:58 PM | chrisreich | that's true agamotto, and I will explain it to anyone willing to listen. Few are.
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| 07:35:58 PM | invinciblemutant | the 3rd one is elegant
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| 07:36:00 PM | Golfgeo | flipout onces arn't great... the leatheron seems nice though!
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| 07:36:01 PM | sumone | wide
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| 07:36:08 PM | _Jot_ | ohhh magnetic, instant data-removal, great to use as a trashcan
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| 07:36:15 PM | pyrosrock | no way get that in lime green
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| 07:36:24 PM | GoodGuy | last one for me
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| 07:36:26 PM | invinciblemutant | i personally dont like springs
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| 07:36:36 PM | _Jot_ | clickety-click is bad cause it will break if you use it too much
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| 07:36:39 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF I like the orange one, but the print has to be MUCH larger.
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| 07:36:41 PM | GregInTexas | they're huge
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| 07:36:48 PM | GoodGuy | BLOCKS OTHER PORTS
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| 07:36:57 PM | ajamison5579 | no shield
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| 07:36:58 PM | MrLuluApples | I like the stainless, gonna go vote for it
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| 07:37:05 PM | chrisreich | good point, GoodGuy
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| 07:37:32 PM | Garbee | Robbie, Yea, I have seen some of those break very easily.
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| 07:37:54 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF, It blocks other ports
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| 07:37:59 PM | agamotto | I like the ones that you can hide in a watch or a pen.
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| 07:38:00 PM | smittysmit | I have several stainless like the blue one with no issues
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| 07:38:00 PM | maxwell6307 | pen click here
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| 07:38:02 PM | GregInTexas | pen click
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| 07:38:03 PM | ErikaL | i would sya the orange one
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| 07:38:05 PM | _Jot_ | where is the poll Robbie?
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| 07:38:07 PM | Golfgeo | where to vote?
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| 07:38:14 PM | GregInTexas | yea, where to vote
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| 07:38:20 PM | Garbee | ErikaL, So pen-click style. Great choice.
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| 07:38:25 PM | Golfgeo | pleather vote here? but where to put it hahaha
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| 07:38:27 PM | Valpenone | backstage pass
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| 07:38:28 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you forgot to tell us where to actually vote on the poll
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| 07:38:32 PM | ajamison5579 | I do not see the poll
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| 07:38:38 PM | invinciblemutant | i cant access the poll
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| 07:38:39 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF the pen click one in fluro green!
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| 07:38:43 PM | invinciblemutant | i opt for the leather
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| 07:38:45 PM | G_Dog1985_ | nice
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| 07:38:58 PM | ErikaL | thanks Garbee
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| 07:39:00 PM | Valpenone | backstage pass for voting
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| 07:39:02 PM | chrisreich | Hillary said 'fiance' so I guess the answer to my question at the beginning of the show is 'yes'.
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| 07:39:10 PM | G_Dog1985_ | no
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| 07:39:13 PM | _Jot_ | so, to vote, go to http://live.cat5.tv/bsp.htm
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| 07:39:15 PM | MrLuluApples | YIKES!
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| 07:39:19 PM | ErikaL | lol hillary thats like my i pod touch
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| 07:39:21 PM | GregInTexas | lol
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| 07:39:27 PM | smittysmit | It's customized
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| 07:39:39 PM | MrLuluApples | I work in a library and every student with a smart phone has a broken phone.
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| 07:39:43 PM | ErikaL | thanks for the vote jot :)
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| 07:39:45 PM | GregInTexas | pointy bits!!
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| 07:39:47 PM | U-Al | Robbie can fix it. lol
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| 07:39:49 PM | invinciblemutant | got it
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| 07:39:50 PM | GoodGuy | Hillary, Watch Tekzilla.. They did a show on replacing screens.. Ifixit.com
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| 07:39:51 PM | Garbee | Hillary, Just get a new screen and replace it.
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| 07:39:54 PM | Golfgeo | Get a replacement glass piece
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| 07:39:54 PM | smittysmit | No 2 cracked screens are alike
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| 07:39:56 PM | invinciblemutant | thank jot
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| 07:40:00 PM | agamotto | htc should be able to replace the screen for $100 or less
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| 07:40:03 PM | sumone | Hippy Crome
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| 07:40:09 PM | smittysmit | Need an otter box
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| 07:40:10 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, and others, you're welcome, there's other ways too, but a direct link is easiest
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| 07:40:11 PM | MrLuluApples | I am really careful with mine but, man, its too easy to break them
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| 07:40:14 PM | sumone | Tape it
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| 07:40:21 PM | GregInTexas | pointy bits
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| 07:40:28 PM | agamotto | Times like these, I appreciate my stupidphone all the more.
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| 07:40:33 PM | _Jot_ | Don't forget to vote for the one I voted for, but I won't say which one of course :P
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| 07:40:41 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Bluetooth headset...
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| 07:40:45 PM | G_Dog1985_ | RobbieF: itis usb ]
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| 07:40:57 PM | ErikaL | thats why i have a old slide phone sony ericsson.. old skool
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| 07:41:00 PM | G_Dog1985_ | or bluetrooth
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| 07:41:11 PM | GregInTexas | we love magic
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| 07:41:36 PM | Golfgeo | scary indeed!
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| 07:41:41 PM | GregInTexas | too cool
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| 07:41:43 PM | GoodGuy | Near Field Communications
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| 07:42:01 PM | MrLuluApples | You can do that with keyboards too. I think MIT did it, they can read your keystrokes from outside your home with just the EM
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| 07:42:01 PM | GoodGuy | I think they discussed it on HAK5 awhile back
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| 07:42:48 PM | agamotto | hmmm, something like bone-conduction, i wonder?
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| 07:42:57 PM | MrLuluApples | The nearFA is basically the same thing, its just the headphone jack signal without plugging it in. Its pretty awesome!
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| 07:43:18 PM | chrisreich | When I first heard about reading keystrokes it was classified information. Needed a security clearance to attend the seminar.
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| 07:43:39 PM | GoodGuy | It has a setting in Android doesnt it?
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| 07:43:46 PM | MrLuluApples | Robbie, I think it has to have a headphone jack.
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| 07:43:47 PM | Golfgeo | Might be plastic vs metal casings
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| 07:43:53 PM | chrisreich | The reason it was classified is because we were discussing preventive measures.
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| 07:43:54 PM | GoodGuy | Newer models probably
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| 07:44:18 PM | agamotto | I won't be able to take smartphones seriously until they have FAR better security on them.
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| 07:44:23 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, geez, can you please keep the loud music down? I'm half the world away and I can hear it here!
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| 07:44:34 PM | U-Al | Hilary's super powers are interfering with the signal
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| 07:44:41 PM | Garbee | I do believe that is di.fm...
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| 07:44:58 PM | ajamison5579 | Do you have to make physical contact with it RobbieF or just gener proximity
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| 07:45:01 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.tested.com/news/feature/articles/2234-how-to-have-fun-with-near-field-communication-on-android/
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| 07:45:24 PM | Garbee | Hillary, Sounds like most of the people I deal with...
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| 07:45:31 PM | ajamison5579 | *geberal
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| 07:45:34 PM | agamotto | Hilary should find a career in quality control....
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| 07:45:35 PM | ajamison5579 | *General
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| 07:45:38 PM | ajamison5579 | can not speak today
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| 07:45:45 PM | Garbee | agamotto, That would be a good fit.
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| 07:45:46 PM | GoodGuy | The first Android phone with NFC was the Nexus S last December. Article was 2011
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| 07:45:47 PM | ErikaL | lol
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| 07:45:51 PM | GoodGuy | so Dec 2010
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| 07:46:08 PM | chrisreich | Hillary so your super-power is rendering technology impotent. (spare us the jokes, guys)
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| 07:46:34 PM | MrLuluApples | chris, it aint classified anymore, its mainstream tech.
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| 07:46:57 PM | Garbee | MrLuluApples, It might be for government purposes when talking about defense tactics.
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| 07:47:06 PM | Garbee | Or ways to use it for cyber-attacks.
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| 07:47:10 PM | MrLuluApples | true
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| 07:47:15 PM | chrisreich | MrLuluApples, we're talking 1984 here. Yes it was for government use.
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| 07:47:27 PM | MrLuluApples | LoL, WOW
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| 07:47:37 PM | MrLuluApples | I was 8
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| 07:47:54 PM | Garbee | Bridged adapter check first.
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| 07:47:56 PM | GoodGuy | I thought the Vatican was trying to defend against reading EM when they were selecting the new Pope
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| 07:48:10 PM | chrisreich | I was married with a toddler MrLuluApples
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| 07:48:20 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, 1984 as in the year or novel?
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| 07:48:23 PM | Garbee | Either way, scary thought.
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| 07:48:27 PM | chrisreich | the year
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| 07:48:41 PM | _Jot_ | I'm starting to think I don't understand English anymore, I have no idea what's going on :)
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| 07:48:53 PM | MrLuluApples | I was the uncle of a toddler, LoL
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| 07:49:00 PM | GoodGuy | Vatican was trying to prevent various evesdropping
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| 07:49:01 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- it happens often to us polyglots
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| 07:49:06 PM | chrisreich | The project had a code name that I'll still not reveal.
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| 07:49:25 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, It is ok, I know the codename was Blue.
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| 07:49:33 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ what is the primary language in Norway is that Swedish
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| 07:49:36 PM | chrisreich | nope
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| 07:49:39 PM | MrLuluApples | I am a polyglot as well. What languages do you collect?
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| 07:49:46 PM | agamotto | Samba si, samba samba si....
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| 07:49:53 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:49:56 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto
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| 07:49:59 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579, many Norwegians do speak some Swedish, but it is Norsk, of course
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| 07:50:13 PM | Garbee | Workgroup = no.
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| 07:50:25 PM | agamotto | Norge... but given the similarities, they are all basically misspelt Deutsch anyway...
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| 07:50:33 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ at least its not Yidish
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| 07:50:43 PM | Valpenone | _jot_ youre from holland right ?
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| 07:50:49 PM | _Jot_ | I believe that Swedish people can understand Norwegians, but not the other way around, or something like that
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| 07:50:52 PM | _Jot_ | yes, I'm Dutch
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| 07:51:03 PM | Valpenone | :D im swedish :D
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| 07:51:06 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579- Dum isht vakacta?
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| 07:51:07 PM | ajamison5579 | He makes wooden shoes
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| 07:51:12 PM | _Jot_ | hej Valpenone
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| 07:51:19 PM | Valpenone | hej jot :D
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| 07:51:39 PM | ajamison5579 | I can speak Gibberish
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| 07:51:40 PM | pyrosrock | not i
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| 07:51:40 PM | _Jot_ | you need wooden shoes in the fields, when it has rained and such, it's very messy outside our mills always
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| 07:51:47 PM | maxwell6307 | not me
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| 07:51:57 PM | GregInTexas | not me
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| 07:52:02 PM | GregInTexas | android in my house
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| 07:52:11 PM | G_Dog1985_ | same
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| 07:52:17 PM | G_Dog1985_ | GregInTexas:
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| 07:52:20 PM | maxwell6307 | thanks
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| 07:52:23 PM | _Jot_ | of course we take them off when we enter the farm or mill, because it's a home environment, or food-processing, so it should be clean
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| 07:52:24 PM | ErikaL | no apple tech for me
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| 07:52:27 PM | Valpenone | not me
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| 07:52:30 PM | agamotto | I imagine that wooden shoes would also insulate far better than any leather
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| 07:52:32 PM | GregInTexas | lol
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| 07:52:33 PM | evermind | i have an apple
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| 07:52:36 PM | evermind | it tastes well
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| 07:52:37 PM | maxwell6307 | lol
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| 07:52:38 PM | pyrosrock | i said it first
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| 07:52:40 PM | MrLuluApples | I used to have a snow white iBook. I loved it.
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| 07:52:40 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, We have some in the house.
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| 07:52:41 PM | gpop7 | no apple
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| 07:52:42 PM | invinciblemutant | me too
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| 07:52:42 PM | ajamison5579 | What is this Apple you speak of
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| 07:52:44 PM | agamotto | I live in an apple-free zone
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| 07:52:46 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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| 07:52:46 PM | _Jot_ | I have an PowerPC apple
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| 07:52:49 PM | _Jot_ | and also a Macintosh II
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| 07:52:56 PM | maxwell6307 | i wnat an android
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| 07:53:03 PM | chrisreich | iMac 2006 and iPod nano here, several PPC Macs offline.
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| 07:53:13 PM | gpop7 | or oranges
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| 07:53:13 PM | evermind | be very careful with that story
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| 07:53:14 PM | G_Dog1985_ | and no window here :P
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| 07:53:16 PM | evermind | lawsuit;)
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| 07:53:17 PM | Valpenone | i want an iphone dut dont have any apple stuff yet :D
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| 07:53:17 PM | _Jot_ | no, I have a Macintosh SE, and an Apple II
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| 07:53:20 PM | ajamison5579 | I have Mandarin from the company Orange
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| 07:53:21 PM | GregInTexas | our best android device is not a phone ... it's a Samsung Galaxy Player 5
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| 07:53:22 PM | U-Al | I hate Apple and Microsoft. (not really)
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| 07:53:34 PM | Garbee | She got it confused with Mac OS didn't she?
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| 07:53:39 PM | Garbee | ^^ the Virus.
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| 07:53:53 PM | evermind | aspirin
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| 07:54:10 PM | GoodGuy | I have a Norwegian friend.. she can speak Swedish.. not sure if she knew both or one helped with the other
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| 07:54:22 PM | emiel1976_ | Apple is one big virus
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| 07:54:29 PM | invinciblemutant | iOS flashback virus for iOS
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| 07:54:30 PM | ajamison5579 | Goodguy or a combination Norwedish
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| 07:54:33 PM | jonathon | There's been a rash of the "system check" virus
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| 07:54:35 PM | maxwell6307 | linux mint here
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| 07:54:38 PM | Garbee | I bet she had it plugged in directly to the internet.
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| 07:54:39 PM | GoodGuy | Norway was part of Sweden until recently.. 1900's iirc
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| 07:54:46 PM | MrLuluApples | ME TOO!!!
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| 07:54:48 PM | _Jot_ | I know that one can speak the language of the other, also because they often go to the other country to go out, since alcohol is much cheaper
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| 07:54:50 PM | evermind | supports some thing i read about 4 years ago
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| 07:54:50 PM | G_Dog1985_ | haha
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| 07:54:54 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, That is just a certain kind of user...
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| 07:54:59 PM | evermind | avg. windows system infected within the first 20 minutes
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| 07:55:02 PM | Garbee | Yea, the USERS.
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| 07:55:06 PM | MrLuluApples | Windows is not an option for me for any purpose what so ever, ever!
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| 07:55:12 PM | Garbee | evermind, Problem.. avg.
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| 07:55:27 PM | MrLuluApples | Mac OS too, never again.
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| 07:55:28 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, not even play Planet Calypso with it? Shame on you
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| 07:55:29 PM | Garbee | I surf all the time with Windows.
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| 07:55:39 PM | evermind | avg -> virus scanner
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| 07:55:42 PM | GoodGuy | Working vs Non-Working lol
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| 07:55:42 PM | evermind | however..
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| 07:55:50 PM | emiel1976_ | \Windows and linux here.
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| 07:55:52 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- Have you and Eric registered your china pattern yet?
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| 07:55:53 PM | chrisreich | I haven't owned a Windows machine since 2000. I won't replace it either.
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| 07:56:04 PM | Garbee | evermind, No. avg = bad virus scanner. Too bloated and full of junk.
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| 07:56:07 PM | agamotto | That is what you get for not putting a finger-cot on your ethernet ports...
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| 07:56:09 PM | ajamison5579 | Windows works fine if you know how to use it without screwing it up
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| 07:56:09 PM | invinciblemutant | i am blocking my wife and kids from using windows
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| 07:56:12 PM | MrLuluApples | its easier than windows
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| 07:56:18 PM | U-Al | for those people what distro do you recommend
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| 07:56:28 PM | napa_polarbear | linux is my main
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| 07:56:33 PM | maxwell6307 | much easier to install
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| 07:56:35 PM | Garbee | I wouldn't even run A/V on Windows if I wasn't sharing this system with my family.
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| 07:56:35 PM | evermind | Garbee, you mean like every av
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| 07:56:38 PM | pyrosrock | ill use only linux when wine or virtulization works with all my games
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| 07:56:40 PM | invinciblemutant | no windows for my wife and kids
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| 07:56:44 PM | Golfgeo | Sometimes people arn't given a real choice... Like IRS applications for filing tax-returns are Windowsbased here in the Netherlands...
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| 07:56:47 PM | evermind | garbee, drive by attacks?
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| 07:56:50 PM | evermind | just sayin...
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| 07:56:50 PM | emiel1976_ | Xubuntu
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| 07:56:52 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, don't forget the phone
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| 07:57:02 PM | Chipsbit | more super powers.....???????
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| 07:57:03 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, you know, that thing you always break
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| 07:57:03 PM | Garbee | evermind, MSE is not bloated nor full of junk. ESET is also a good solution if you don't mind a few of its "features."
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| 07:57:08 PM | invinciblemutant | easy for me to adminsitrate the system
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| 07:57:08 PM | GoodGuy | My wife is using Ubuntu 10.10.... she doesnt seem to have any problems
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| 07:57:11 PM | invinciblemutant | just ssh
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| 07:57:18 PM | invinciblemutant | very simple
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| 07:57:22 PM | pyrosrock | Golfgeo same here
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| 07:57:26 PM | invinciblemutant | me again
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| 07:57:30 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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| 07:57:33 PM | GoodGuy | I showed her Firefox, LibreOffice (for Word)
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| 07:57:40 PM | invinciblemutant | it is really good
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| 07:57:48 PM | _Jot_ | Good news everyone, Jot doesn't win cause Jot isn't on the social spamsites
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| 07:57:49 PM | GoodGuy | Still need to setup a Printer
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| 07:57:53 PM | invinciblemutant | once tried, i just want more
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| 07:58:00 PM | emiel1976_ | Golfgeo more Linux suport is coming
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| 07:58:08 PM | agamotto | yay
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| 07:58:10 PM | Golfgeo | emiel1976_: Hope so! :-)
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| 07:58:21 PM | GregInTexas | wow, a year!
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| 07:58:22 PM | evermind | mse <--- havent tested yet, see no reason to, esed <- why pay for something that shouldnt be possible in a modern os anyways
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| 07:58:27 PM | evermind | using avast here
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| 07:58:29 PM | evermind | btw
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| 07:58:32 PM | evermind | that is
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| 07:58:32 PM | GregInTexas | free batteries
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| 07:58:34 PM | invinciblemutant | agree !!!
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| 07:58:37 PM | invinciblemutant | they are so good
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| 07:58:38 PM | GoodGuy | I think Dual Boot would convert newbies
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| 07:58:48 PM | invinciblemutant | i am using it
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| 07:58:49 PM | pyrosrock | all my batteries are re-chargeable lipos
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| 07:58:52 PM | maxwell6307 | ive used them
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| 07:58:56 PM | maxwell6307 | there great
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| 07:58:56 PM | invinciblemutant | they are not rechargeable
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| 07:59:04 PM | invinciblemutant | what the 2%
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| 07:59:11 PM | GoodGuy | Boot Linux when Windows dies and many will figure out Linux works
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| 07:59:20 PM | evermind | i was about to say...
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| 07:59:24 PM | invinciblemutant | not edible
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| 07:59:25 PM | evermind | what about the good old accu?
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| 07:59:34 PM | agamotto | Have you told that to Beldar yet?
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| 07:59:36 PM | napa_polarbear | windows 2 sllooww
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| 07:59:38 PM | sumone | Save me from me
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| 07:59:40 PM | Golfgeo | Btw, I believe I've figured out the problem with the rtl8139... Seems that the boot is enabled on the rtl8139DL (newer version of the chip). Not entirely sure though ohoh
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| 07:59:44 PM | G_Dog1985_ | RobbieF: poll????
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| 08:00:04 PM | ajamison5579 | I play to many games that are not usuable on WINE yet to convert
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| 08:00:05 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, pen click only has 7 votes, pleather has 13
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| 08:00:06 PM | evermind | i was wondering if buying a few accu cells would actually reduce the overall load of despositing of batteries;)
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| 08:00:07 PM | Garbee | Robbie, that poll is 50%...
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| 08:00:08 PM | chrisreich | all my best to everyone, even evermind.
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| 08:00:12 PM | ajamison5579 | 100% that is
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| 08:00:14 PM | gpop7 | Have a great week everyone
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| 08:00:16 PM | evermind | lol, thx chris
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| 08:00:18 PM | sumone | Wide
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| 08:00:20 PM | emiel1976_ | napa_polarbear Windows 7 is faster than os x but slower than linux
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| 08:00:33 PM | sumone | Thanks all
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| 08:00:35 PM | GoodGuy | Haven't see Rachael for awhile
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| 08:00:44 PM | GregInTexas | great show, y'all!
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| 08:00:47 PM | Golfgeo | thanks robby and hillary :-) nn all peeps! :-)
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| 08:00:50 PM | maxwell6307 | great show guys thanks from Cobourg
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| 08:00:52 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone!
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| 08:00:57 PM | Valpenone | nite all
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| 08:01:06 PM | invinciblemutant | bye
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| 08:01:08 PM | napa_polarbear | it sucks on my lap
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| 08:01:11 PM | invinciblemutant | good nite
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| 08:01:12 PM | GoodGuy | Anyone installed SliTaz 4.0?
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| 08:01:28 PM | agamotto | Slitaz is still around?
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| 08:01:29 PM | _Jot_ | bye everybody who left already and is leaving
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| 08:01:29 PM | maxwell6307 | later all
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| 08:01:30 PM | GoodGuy | It sure boots quicly
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| 08:01:43 PM | gpop7 | Enjoyed the show. Bye bye
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| 08:01:44 PM | GoodGuy | New version a few days ago
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| 08:01:51 PM | agamotto | hmmmm
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| 08:01:52 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF thanks i now have some work to do getting all ur help implemented
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| 08:02:06 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, pen click only has 7 votes, Pleather has 15, so pleather wins, nothing about 50-50
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| 08:02:25 PM | pyrosrock | on the show the pol didnt update
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| 08:02:26 PM | ajamison5579 | Jolly good Govnar and stuff
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| 08:02:27 PM | GoodGuy | The installer doesnt allow me to install grub to the partition boot record
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| 08:02:30 PM | agamotto | i am still trying to figure out what to do next for my HTPC/DVR boxes
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| 08:02:36 PM | napa_polarbear | quit
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| 08:02:42 PM | Michaeliowa | RobbieF and Hillary very good Show:)
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| 08:02:43 PM | GoodGuy | I dont want to overlay the MBR
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| 08:02:48 PM | napa_polarbear | byby
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| 08:02:54 PM | MrLuluApples | Ok, I'm back
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| 08:03:28 PM | evermind | well, lulu, sorry to say, you just missed the show:/
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| 08:03:29 PM | toxi07 | byebye all
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| 08:03:35 PM | evermind | good that itll be recorded
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| 08:03:38 PM | evermind | cu toxi
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| 08:03:59 PM | agamotto | Until SchedulesDirect can get an accurate QAM map out of Mediacom, I am pretty much nackered for recording anything beyond OTA
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| 08:04:07 PM | MrLuluApples | More or less, I was listening to it while I did the dishes.
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| 08:04:27 PM | evermind | good=)
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| 08:04:42 PM | agamotto | You haven't upgraded to Spouse 2.0?
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| 08:04:50 PM | GoodGuy | lol agamotto
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| 08:05:00 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, I'm sure it is somewhere on the internet, so just download the internet and it'll be there, that map
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| 08:05:01 PM | evermind | apropos dishes, late night tv series repeating starts in about 30 mins, and i feel like i could use some chilli of sorts
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| 08:05:03 PM | GoodGuy | I was going to ask.. Arent you married
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| 08:05:31 PM | GoodGuy | We have a dishwasher, so I always do the dishes now
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| 08:05:34 PM | MrLuluApples | Oh, and for whoever said you can't do your taxes in linux, I do mine on paper, always have. I wouldn't do taxes electronically in any case.
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| 08:06:04 PM | pyrosrock | yep i had to do mine on paper
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| 08:06:06 PM | _Jot_ | MrLuluApples, you're lucky you're not in my country, you're required to do it electronically, unless you're a corporation, I think
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| 08:06:11 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Ah, if only it were that easy... of course, our local papers can't get the channels listed right two months after the digital switchover, either...
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| 08:06:22 PM | GoodGuy | Tax programs might work in WINE or CrossOver
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| 08:06:57 PM | pyrosrock | _Jot_ id kick up a fuss if that were the case 4 me
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| 08:06:58 PM | agamotto | Freefile has always worked for me with Chromium
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| 08:07:17 PM | MrLuluApples | Ok, I'll do a video on it. I am sure it can be done. I would be SOCKED if it can't. I can't speak for every country though.
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| 08:07:51 PM | _Jot_ | I know at least that internet is pretty much a requirement for dealing with the government these days, at least it's the first thing you're supposed to try
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| 08:09:11 PM | MrLuluApples | Jot, what country do you live in?
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| 08:09:17 PM | _Jot_ | I am in The Netherlands
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| 08:09:23 PM | agamotto | I know that I am missing RNL's 'In from Holland' already... I can't find decent news about Holland in English so far...
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| 08:09:31 PM | GregInTexas | gotta go y'all ... enjoyed it, y'all take care
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| 08:09:47 PM | MrLuluApples | You live in a place I would like to visit
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| 08:09:48 PM | agamotto | GregInTexas- Dry pants and wet skies to you as well.
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| 08:09:49 PM | smittysmit | Jot E-tax filing is mandatory in the states with exceptions (per my CPA). You ALWAYS have old school that want to mail them.
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| 08:09:52 PM | _Jot_ | Sorry agamotto, our government is of the opinion that culture is only for the rich
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| 08:10:03 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- darn
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| 08:10:39 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, I didn't vote for them, but people believe that they will do something against all the foreign criminals coming here
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| 08:10:49 PM | RobbieF | Jot; sorry we couldn't squeeze the email in. Will try for next week
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| 08:11:02 PM | _Jot_ | unfortunatly, they are the ones that caused it starting 20-30 years ago, and are still making it worse, and people just don't see it
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| 08:11:07 PM | agamotto | As opposed to the domestic ones, who are acceptable? :)
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| 08:11:08 PM | agamotto | heheeh
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| 08:11:12 PM | RobbieF | Email are flowing heavier than ever, we try our best to keep up.
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| 08:11:15 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, great :)
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| 08:11:38 PM | _Jot_ | Did you take a look at it at least RobbieF? Not because it is important but because I have a little to add as explanation
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| 08:11:49 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- Perhaps if your cops were allowed to do more than just yell at people, it might help :)
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| 08:11:54 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie
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| 08:12:15 PM | invinciblemutant | can sata ssd3 supported by sata2 equiped laptop
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| 08:12:26 PM | invinciblemutant | like a core 3 duo laptop
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| 08:12:38 PM | agamotto | RobbieF- That means, 1. viewership is up, or 2. more things are going wrong. Either way, good fodder for you and the show!
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| 08:12:39 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, they are, that's the problem, real crime gets punished with 3 months in jail at most, which means you get off immediatly, and if you honky our horn once, you get a $350 fine
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| 08:13:16 PM | invinciblemutant | http://www.ebuyer.com/268693-corsair-120gb-force-3-ssd-cssd-f120gb3-bk-cssd-f120gb3-bk
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| 08:13:25 PM | invinciblemutant | i am aiming something like this
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| 08:13:34 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- I had heard some grumblings like that, but almost no media coverage
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| 08:14:13 PM | _Jot_ | could be something like $600 now though, something ridicilous like 1/3rd to 1/2 of the minimum pay or something
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| 08:14:32 PM | smittysmit | Night all...see you next week
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| 08:15:06 PM | MrLuluApples | I honestly think this is the best web tech show I have seen. You guys do a great job. What sets you apart, for me, is how matter of fact it is and that it's live and interactive.
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| 08:15:07 PM | agamotto | _Jot_- One of the last episodes of 'In from Holland' discussed people being garnished on old fines, to the tune of thousands of euros.
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| 08:15:09 PM | _Jot_ | anyway, Dutch people mostly accept anything, cause they feel there is nothing we can do anyway
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| 08:15:30 PM | _Jot_ | take for example the european constitution which we voted against, and that got passed anyway
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| 08:15:40 PM | agamotto | MrLuluApples- Yes, we do have a strong sense of community here.
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| 08:16:24 PM | _Jot_ | the community is the show, Robbie makes it, but it's more like he provides it for everybody
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| 08:17:00 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Yes, SATA3 is backwards compatible with SATA2 (from what I have seen/heard.) But check your laptop first and make sure it is standards compliant.
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| 08:17:19 PM | agamotto | Well, I hate to go, but I have to prepare dinner and finish my laundry to have presentable clothes for work tomorrow.
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| 08:17:28 PM | _Jot_ | with laptops, sometimes the positions of the sata-connectors can be slightly different, depending on if they made it for one type of harddrive or not
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| 08:17:41 PM | _Jot_ | like a certain height, for example
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| 08:18:05 PM | invinciblemutant | i have done a few upgrades to my laptop to higher capacity magnetic drives
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| 08:18:12 PM | invinciblemutant | i think it is standard
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| 08:18:17 PM | invinciblemutant | just an Acer
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| 08:18:28 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, acer breaks easily, but it is pretty standard stuff
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| 08:18:32 PM | invinciblemutant | just that i wish get an SSD
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| 08:18:41 PM | invinciblemutant | breaks easily?
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| 08:18:42 PM | agamotto | I will be here for next week's show... have your beleated birthday presents ready!
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| 08:18:46 PM | agamotto | heheehehe
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| 08:18:54 PM | invinciblemutant | i have been using it for 4++ years
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| 08:18:58 PM | MrLuluApples | Oh, happy birthday!
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| 08:19:19 PM | _Jot_ | okay agamotto, I'll hold out my flower and sing happy birthday on ... what day was it?
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| 08:19:21 PM | MrLuluApples | so, 5 years then? "4++"
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| 08:19:27 PM | agamotto | MrLuluApples- the 22nd. Thanks in advance!
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| 08:19:44 PM | invinciblemutant | lol...what a programmer
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| 08:20:01 PM | agamotto | I will officially know the answers to everything, as I will be turning 42!
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| 08:20:21 PM | _Jot_ | you mean life, the universe, and the rest
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| 08:20:27 PM | agamotto | Yeppers
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| 08:20:28 PM | _Jot_ | but of course you don't know that yet, not being 42 yet
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| 08:20:34 PM | agamotto | heheeheh
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| 08:20:36 PM | invinciblemutant | agamotto, really
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| 08:20:48 PM | _Jot_ | of course I am not either, but then, it's not my birthday
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| 08:21:06 PM | invinciblemutant | tell me what is my dad's name on your birthday
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| 08:21:11 PM | agamotto | Catch you lot next week
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| 08:21:20 PM | MrLuluApples | I would trade what I know now for youth. Youth was better.
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| 08:21:36 PM | MrLuluApples | Age is good, but youth is better.
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| 08:21:37 PM | _Jot_ | they do say youth is wasted on the young
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| 08:22:50 PM | Garbee | I love how I setup a CMS for my dad to do things easier on the site, yet I end up putting everything in.
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| 08:23:08 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, you shouldn't have shown how easy it was for you
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| 08:23:09 PM | pyrosrock | Birthdays are good for you. Statistically speaking, people who have the most live longest.
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| 08:23:36 PM | invinciblemutant | my friend told me, think you mum on your bday
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| 08:23:43 PM | invinciblemutant | she risked her life for your bday
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| 08:23:45 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, not always though, I hear people who are born in leapyears have very few but still live very long
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| 08:24:08 PM | pyrosrock | well there just an anomaly in the stats
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| 08:24:25 PM | invinciblemutant | not leap, should be on 29feb
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| 08:24:42 PM | _Jot_ | hehe that was implied :)
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| 08:24:44 PM | invinciblemutant | not leap year
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| 08:24:49 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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| 08:24:56 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, They are not anomolies. Each area has different laws on whether leap day babies are on the 28th of February or the 1st of March, so they still get counted properly.
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| 08:25:56 PM | invinciblemutant | ok guys, i gonna go...to late already...1.25 am here
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| 08:25:59 PM | invinciblemutant | bye
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| 08:26:02 PM | invinciblemutant | take care....cya next week
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| 08:26:06 PM | _Jot_ | see you inviciblemutant
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| 08:26:07 PM | invinciblemutant | cioa...
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| 08:26:11 PM | pyrosrock | bye
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| 08:26:28 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 08:27:04 PM | pyrosrock | happy he left?
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| 08:27:15 PM | _Jot_ | no, he was happy he could turn the BSP off
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| 08:28:31 PM | _Jot_ | of course RobbieF forgot to write down the result of the poll, so he'll be very happy I took a screenshot of the endresult
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| 08:28:43 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 08:29:53 PM | MrLuluApples | Anyhow... As for what Robbie said about Linux during the show, I concur and echoe it. I have been using linux full time since 2005 and most of the time since 1999.
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| 08:30:09 PM | _Jot_ | now RobbieF is just smiling, but he's thinking 'Oh no! how did he know that? The guy is in my head! How am I going to get him out? Oh no'
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| 08:30:28 PM | MrLuluApples | Anything you say you need windows for, we can find you an alternativve.
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| 08:30:52 PM | _Jot_ | Find an alternative that works to plan Entropia Universe on linux that actually works, and you make a lot of people very happy
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| 08:31:01 PM | Ron_Smith | RobbieF, when I connect to my headless server using the web browser and start a guest, the guest does not pop up a new window running the guest like it does when you are running virtualbox from the server itself.
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| 08:31:03 PM | _Jot_ | plan=play
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| 08:31:09 PM | Garbee | MrLuluApples, Reliable live streaming video/audio to the internet. GO find me that on Linux.
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| 08:31:40 PM | Garbee | How about reliable screen-recording software that will also record audio at 30FPS (Using a gui interface for configuration and no touching a shell.)? Go find that.
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| 08:31:43 PM | MrLuluApples | Garbee, what are you trying to stream?
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| 08:32:18 PM | Garbee | MrLuluApples, Just general streaming, no real use. It needs to be versatile to stream things from Camera's in the computer to screens.
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| 08:32:19 PM | pyrosrock | yeah iv done full hd screen recording with a gui on linuk
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| 08:32:39 PM | Garbee | Oh, How about an office program that uses a clean Ribbon like MS Office? Go find that on Linux.
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| 08:32:59 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, Using what software?
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| 08:33:46 PM | pyrosrock | dont remember was a yr or so ago
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| 08:34:16 PM | Garbee | Oh, and did you do audio with it?
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| 08:34:29 PM | Garbee | I can do full HD recording as well, but no audio since that will crash any software I use for some reason.
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| 08:34:43 PM | pyrosrock | yes with audo from mic imput
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| 08:35:41 PM | MrLuluApples | mplayer can capture full screen video at well over 30 fps
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| 08:35:53 PM | MrLuluApples | or anthing else
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| 08:36:04 PM | Garbee | Well, I have used tons of software, and not been able to replicate even 30fps at 1920x1080 resolution with audio for over 2 minutes. So Screen recording is a fail for m.e
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| 08:36:22 PM | MrLuluApples | If you want to stream media... most streaming servers are linux based.
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| 08:36:39 PM | Garbee | Define server...
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| 08:37:22 PM | Garbee | Server as in the servers that actually send the data, of course, they run most of the internet. Server as in the host that sends the stream out, no, most are Windows since they have better software available.
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| 08:37:28 PM | MrLuluApples | In the context of client-server architecture, a server is a computer program running to serve the requests of other programs, the "clients". Thus, the "server" performs some computational task on behalf of "clients". The clients either run on the same computer or connect through the network.
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| 08:38:09 PM | pyrosrock | well i did a 10 min tutorial on installing miro from repo and watching a vid with sound 4 school so worked 4 me
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| 08:39:05 PM | MrLuluApples | Linuxactionshow! They do it, I don't know what they use, but they do it.
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| 08:39:40 PM | MrLuluApples | Anyhow, I'll research it, watch my channel for a video on it.
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| 08:40:04 PM | Garbee | I don't see any option for mplayer to screen record.
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| 08:41:34 PM | Garbee | Basically, Windows is no longer the issue, it is the user.
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| 08:43:20 PM | Garbee | Linux just means that people who don't know what they are doing, can do whatever they want and not have too many repercussions. Which does nothing for the world.
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| 08:43:40 PM | Garbee | Linux is also for people who know what they are doing to be able to have complete control over their system.
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| 08:44:26 PM | MrLuluApples | mplayer -vo xv tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=1980:height=1020:fps=30:device=/dev/
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| 08:45:02 PM | MrLuluApples | That will capture the video, then you just have to redirect it to your output, wherever you want it to go, web, etc...
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| 08:45:22 PM | Garbee | MrLuluApples, Not good. In a GUI, not using CLI.
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| 08:45:59 PM | Garbee | NO average user will touch the CLI, that is the point in this little test.
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| 08:46:14 PM | MrLuluApples | Why? What is the advantage?
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| 08:46:23 PM | Garbee | The advantage is an average user would use it.
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| 08:46:27 PM | _Jot_ | cause people don't like to use letters
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| 08:47:02 PM | Garbee | The point is you are asserting that Linux is good for everything, clearly it is not since you need to use chaotic commands such as the example you just gave to get something done.
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| 08:48:31 PM | MrLuluApples | Actually, you only have to type it once, to make a shortcut, then its just point and click.
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| 08:48:39 PM | Garbee | MrLuluApples, Not the point.
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| 08:48:50 PM | RobbieF | Jot; mind if I borrow some of that dung? I'd like to leave a flaming bag of it outside Garbee's room.
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| 08:48:50 PM | Garbee | The point is, the command needs to be used, even if once, by the user.
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| 08:48:54 PM | Garbee | They should never need to touch CLI.
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| 08:49:23 PM | Garbee | Robbie has even decided the best solution for him is to use a Windows box to do the streaming. I wonder why that is?
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| 08:49:52 PM | pyrosrock | i promice i did it only using a gui
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| 08:50:19 PM | Garbee | pyrosrock, I believe it. But as *most* solutions I have seen in the past week on my system show, they fail repeatedly.
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| 08:50:23 PM | pyrosrock | it had a little thing on the top bar that i could start the recording and stop it
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| 08:50:36 PM | Garbee | Perhaps it was at the time you used the software, or it might be the software I am using in my configuration.
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| 08:50:56 PM | pyrosrock | but i admit it did record it to a file which was a pain in the ass
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| 08:51:25 PM | pyrosrock | though im sure what i used was just a head
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| 08:51:30 PM | Garbee | I can *easily* record my screen without issue, but once I add the audio to it, they all crash in 2 minutes. I need 10-15 minutes of recording.
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| 08:51:37 PM | MrLuluApples | pyro, are you talking about "recordmydekstop"? That isn't a streaming ap.
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| 08:51:51 PM | Garbee | shazam and gtk-recordmydesktop are 2 great options for screen recording I have found.
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| 08:51:53 PM | pyrosrock | i duno might have been
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| 08:52:12 PM | Garbee | but those are also the 2 primary GUI's I am having audio woes with.
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| 08:52:54 PM | pyrosrock | but audo did wark as i clearly remember hateing my voice and haveing to mute my mic when the vid played to remove foldback
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| 08:53:25 PM | pyrosrock | have any of u guys played trackmania?
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| 08:53:32 PM | RobbieF | hahaha nice
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| 08:53:36 PM | RobbieF | take me back
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| 08:53:47 PM | _Jot_ | I played it a little while back when
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| 08:53:57 PM | pyrosrock | im playnig nations forever atm
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| 08:54:05 PM | Garbee | Never heard of it.
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| 08:54:08 PM | MrLuluApples | Kris Occhipinti is your guy Garbee. Talk to him.
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| 08:54:17 PM | pyrosrock | but cant got multiplayer to work on wine
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| 08:54:21 PM | RobbieF | Garbee - build a crazy track, and then race on it.
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| 08:54:35 PM | RobbieF | http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&cp=7&gs_id=q&xhr=t&q=trackmania&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=563&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=xhCOT4DPHM600AGV9bWiDw
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| 08:54:47 PM | MrLuluApples | I'm gonna do the same, actually.
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| 08:54:48 PM | pyrosrock | playing online RobbieF has the most crazy maps ever!
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| 08:54:48 PM | Garbee | Oh, so like Mod Nation racers except funner and better graphics.
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| 08:55:06 PM | RobbieF | nice pyrosrock
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| 08:55:35 PM | Garbee | I might be spending $25 in the next few days...
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| 08:56:07 PM | RobbieF | :-D
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| 08:58:11 PM | Garbee | So, I still see no direct answers to my tests...
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| 08:58:13 PM | revdjenk | did I miss a Hillary episode? ah, will definitely have to catch it later
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| 08:59:00 PM | pyrosrock | what are u spending $23 on Garbee
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| 08:59:07 PM | pyrosrock | $25*
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| 08:59:26 PM | Garbee | Trackmania from http://www.trackmania.com/
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| 08:59:53 PM | pyrosrock | nations forever is free to play
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| 09:00:01 PM | pyrosrock | give it a go
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| 09:00:16 PM | pyrosrock | add me pyrosrockthisworld
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| 09:00:46 PM | MrLuluApples | Garbee I said I will research it for you. I am a below average user and have never had a real need for live streaming aps so I can't speak from experience.
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