Chat Logs for Episode 243 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 26 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 25 Posts:Garbee
With 24 Posts:RobbieF
With 22 Posts:ajamison5579


Chat Logs:

06:58:14 PMmaxwell6307 :)
06:58:26 PMG_Dog1985_ hello all
06:58:33 PMmaxwell6307 hi
06:59:19 PMRobbieF here we go!
07:00:53 PMMichaeliowa hi hi hi all!!
07:01:16 PMG_Dog1985_ lol
07:01:26 PMchrisreich has anyone got video? I don't.
07:01:28 PMpyrosrock that is a bright pink!!!!!
07:01:35 PMG_Dog1985_ i do
07:01:49 PMpyrosrock video is good
07:01:56 PMMichaeliowa yes I have video
07:02:08 PMG_Dog1985_ same
07:02:27 PMsmittysmit Hello all. I logged in yesterday...thinking it was Tuesday...
07:02:39 PMchrisreich thanks for the reports guys. I've got video via Ustream but no live.cat5.tv
07:03:14 PMpyrosrock smittysmit nice nice
07:03:28 PMbarn_tech RobbieF I like your mobile app, you planning to do any more apps?
07:03:55 PMsmittysmit Thanks Pyro...I know
07:03:59 PMchrisreich okay, now 'live.cat5.tv' is also working.
07:04:02 PMGarbee RobbieF, I hope you are using the Fibre at work to do that uploading... It would be much faster.
07:04:28 PMcyberSmurf smittysmit: eager for your Cat5 fix? :-)
07:04:45 PMMichaeliowa RobbieF you would be 18 them?
07:05:07 PMGarbee Not episode 11 though...
07:05:08 PMsmittysmit cyber, something like that
07:05:09 PMG_Dog1985_ haha
07:05:21 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:05:28 PMOberon__ whew! finally made it to a live show again!
07:05:30 PMchrisreich Hillary I hope I speak for many of us who would like to hear how things are going for you at broadcast school. Perhaps RobbieF will yield to you for a minute or two.
07:05:42 PMinvinciblemutant hi all
07:05:42 PMchrisreich welcome Oberon__
07:05:46 PMinvinciblemutant just tuned in
07:06:37 PMinvinciblemutant wow
07:06:53 PMG_Dog1985_ wow
07:06:58 PMGarbee What if I am on the moon?
07:07:14 PMG_Dog1985_ lol Garbee
07:07:16 PMinvinciblemutant do we need to redo we have already liked them
07:07:16 PMGoodGuy I ran an Ubuntu 12.04 update and my wife complained her Facebook games weren't working. How can a user "undo" an installed update?
07:07:36 PMpyrosrock RobbieF pick me il answer and claim the batteries
07:07:46 PMGoodGuy Hope something other than reverting to an older backup
07:07:48 PMGarbee I don't want to save money. I want to get rid of it.
07:07:55 PMMichaeliowa $$
07:07:56 PMmaxwell6307 sweet
07:07:59 PMchrisreich I could *really* use those batteries.
07:08:00 PMinvinciblemutant robertf: do we need to like again if we already liked it on facebook
07:08:15 PMGoodGuy Hey I got the go ahead to order myy Raspberry Pi finally!
07:08:20 PMOberon_ grr. brb
07:08:29 PMGoodGuy my
07:08:32 PMpyrosrock no if u were in the draw ur already elegible
07:08:36 PMinvinciblemutant i have used half of them before half year ...lol
07:08:40 PMGarbee GoodGuy, It is best not to undo updates. But the updates should not interfere with FB games.
07:08:45 PMmaxwell6307 lol
07:08:46 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:08:56 PMGoodGuy Maybe they shouldn't, but they did :-)
07:09:06 PMGoodGuy Must keep the wifey
07:09:41 PMGarbee Well, here it is...: Boot from a livecd, chroot in, uninstall the package, go find the old copy and re-install. Then pray and hope that no other software relied on the newer version.
07:09:45 PMnapa_polarbear calgary's the beast
07:09:49 PMGoodGuy Hey I know a Norwegian living in Canada and she thinks ZNorway is the best county.. In polls they are neck and neck
07:09:54 PMGarbee So basically, don't do it.
07:10:17 PMnapa_polarbear Calgary's the beast
07:10:22 PMGoodGuy I can get in the system... I am guessing it was a flash plugin update
07:10:35 PMGarbee GoodGuy, Then really don't roll back.
07:10:50 PMpyrosrock napa_polarbear calgary is pretty cool but canmore i cooler
07:11:01 PMinvinciblemutant Hi, this is off topic, any italian in this room?
07:11:06 PMGoodGuy I was hoping Synaptic had some way of reverting to the previous version
07:11:13 PMOberon_ ahh. that's better. Nothing worse than making it back to a live show finally and not showing up as yourself!
07:11:23 PMGarbee Not that I know of. You aren't meant to rollback updates, this isn't Windows.
07:11:34 PMGarbee They aren't just like extra installed peices of software.
07:11:36 PMpyrosrock goodguy there is but u need to know which package u want tor revert
07:11:45 PMGoodGuy One case I wouldn't mind if it was lolk
07:11:50 PMOberon_ you CAN revert software versions, but not OS
07:12:00 PMGoodGuy flash-plugin I am guessing
07:12:32 PMGoodGuy She just told me the bad news, so I havent seen the issue myself
07:12:44 PMGarbee GoodGuy, It could be a FB issue, or an error in between user and keyboard.
07:12:52 PMchrisreich GoodGuy, I agree with Garbee. The better solution is to 'fix' the facebook games issue.
07:13:18 PMGoodGuy It worked fine on Puppy Linux... I have her dual-booting
07:13:32 PMGarbee Here is the thing, *if* you roll-back, then you go and update later, you will just re-install the update.
07:13:36 PMGoodGuy so she didn't get too annoyed at me
07:13:38 PMpyrosrock GoodGuy or u can just block facebook completly then u dont need to fix the games :P
07:13:40 PMGarbee puppy gets updates slower than Ubuntu at times.
07:14:02 PMGoodGuy Have to call a divorce lawyer if I try that
07:14:14 PMGoodGuy she likes her Facebook games :-)
07:14:18 PMGarbee GoodGuy, Then do the cheaper thing, put her back on Windows.
07:14:33 PMGoodGuy I am too lazy to reload that
07:14:45 PMcyberSmurf GoodGuy: ... lol
07:14:52 PMchrisreich Is there anyone else who feels the urge to roll their eyes every time someone suggests Puppy Linux as the solution to everything from running apps to global warming?
07:14:55 PMGoodGuy she is happy with Ubuntu until that last update
07:15:35 PMGoodGuy Well she has Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as her day to day Linux
07:16:04 PMajamison5579 the PSD was only for the images they included an CSS file for placement of the images
07:16:10 PMGoodGuy I have a smaller 2nd partition for another Linux so she can try others out
07:17:14 PMGoodGuy I am guessing it installed flash-plugin ... I can manually copy an older saved version over to the proper folder
07:17:24 PMpyrosrock RobbieF yeah no cursor in the feed
07:18:02 PMGoodGuy Iirc her PC has issues with the newer versions of Flash and I manually overlaid the lib plugin
07:18:05 PMajamison5579 Robbief the slices were used to pull image fragments out so CSS could stretch it
07:18:31 PMGoodGuy Forget I had to do that on her PC... it worked ok on my pc since it is newer
07:19:21 PMajamison5579 this is not tables ethier
07:19:41 PMajamison5579 they use the image slices to pull the small image out to stretch
07:20:19 PMajamison5579 right
07:20:54 PMajamison5579 oh that tool is cool
07:21:50 PMajamison5579 it helps
07:22:05 PMOberon_ the tool also has an "import from image" function that should make it easier.
07:22:15 PMGoodGuy Miro
07:23:32 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Hillary Use Miro
07:24:06 PMBitSprocket +1 for Miro
07:26:59 PMinvinciblemutant Jot or Yot?
07:27:11 PMOberon_ ~sigh~ must run. have fun all!
07:28:20 PMcyberSmurf Hillary: my thinking exactly
07:28:59 PMchrisreich I used to collect air sickness bags from the various airlines I flew on.
07:29:37 PMtic-toc_ hopefully they had not been used
07:29:53 PMinvinciblemutant that deserve some viewer points dude i think
07:29:53 PMchrisreich I'm dumbfounded over a dung collection, even a virtual one.
07:29:54 PMcyberSmurf too cool Jot !
07:30:03 PMGoodGuy Extra viewer points for that
07:30:50 PMcyberSmurf does Jot have a collection of all his Cat5 prizes in Planet Calypso?
07:30:50 PMGoodGuy Because he can!
07:31:06 PMpyrosrock RobbieF so he can show his virtual frends the show!
07:32:30 PMGoodGuy They wouldnt know what you see because they havent seen it
07:33:22 PMGoodGuy Comcast got sued over harming torrent downloads
07:33:50 PMGoodGuy My Linux torrent d/l's were slow as heck..now they fly
07:35:05 PMSovereignEntity How do I change the resolution from
07:35:12 PMajamison5579 Yahoo does not have a search feature anymore
07:35:19 PMajamison5579 they search is powered by bing now
07:35:24 PMajamison5579 not its own monster
07:35:42 PMRobbieF :-D
07:35:52 PMchrisreich I search on Yahoo. Because it's not Google.
07:36:16 PMbull422 I search on duckduckgo
07:36:17 PMSovereignEntity hotepankh
07:36:18 PMGoodGuy Raspberry Pi's are shipping!.. that is a story
07:36:19 PMajamison5579 then Chrisreich your searching on Bing
07:36:33 PMU-Al I use duckduckgo search.
07:36:39 PMajamison5579 Yahoo no longer runs its own search engine
07:36:45 PMpyrosrock ew bing that has to be more scary than google
07:36:56 PMcyberSmurf DuckDuckGo for search - supports keyboard shortcuts for search modifiers
07:37:09 PMGoodGuy Will they come to Detroit Michigan?
07:37:27 PMbull422 Uncle Al greeting from Macon GA
07:37:29 PMG_Dog1985_ lol
07:37:35 PMGoodGuy I want a couple grounded outlets installed
07:37:39 PMU-Al hello bul422
07:37:47 PMGoodGuy Hillary - talk to my wife
07:37:59 PMajamison5579 lol
07:38:20 PMGoodGuy She sewed her own wedding dress.. baked her own cake.. cost under $500 in 1970's
07:38:52 PMGoodGuy Our sons friend spent over $12,000.. wedding didnt last a full year
07:39:14 PMzb1 that is just about right
07:39:19 PMajamison5579 ur being shammed RobbieF I pay $30 for phone and free long distance
07:39:25 PMGoodGuy 'We have stayed married almost 40 years for that cheapo investment
07:39:52 PMzb1 that is a reason I got rid of regular telephone service
07:40:09 PMGoodGuy I switched to an Ooma yesterday.... $4 a month in taxes after the initial investment
07:40:10 PMG_Dog1985_ i pay 45 for my phone
07:40:31 PMG_Dog1985_ plus tax
07:40:32 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Hillary .. I have a couple other suggestions
07:40:32 PMtic-toc_ Is that majicjack2
07:40:32 PMMichaeliowa I have one
07:40:37 PMpyrosrock RobbieF we save a ton by just using the voip phone to make calls!
07:40:39 PMajamison5579 Magic Jack lol how refreshingly unexpected
07:40:45 PMMichaeliowa it work good
07:40:46 PMGoodGuy Ooma is one.... ObiHai is another
07:40:59 PMMichaeliowa you need a computer to set up
07:41:04 PMGoodGuy MagicJack has terrible customer service ratings
07:41:27 PMSovereignEntity it works Robbie
07:41:43 PMzb1 I think I'm going to ooma since I have dsl problems and I will not have to pay 30-40 for vonage knowing I may have to get vonage credit when the dsl goes out again
07:41:48 PMU-Al Don't they say that you can keep your number
07:41:49 PMGoodGuy I bought the Ooma for $179 at Costco and last month Ooma had a $50 rebate
07:41:52 PMsmittysmit i had Magic Jack a few years ago. It does work...i will give it that. Switched to Net Talk Duo for the router...but need to renew (just use cell)
07:41:57 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:42:14 PMcyberSmurf Robbie: ...lol, that's great !
07:42:17 PMtic-toc_ Sometimes your phone carrier won't let you port your old number
07:42:22 PMU-Al he is so cute
07:42:46 PMzb1 windows laptop
07:42:56 PMpyrosrock RobbieF LIES!
07:42:57 PMGoodGuy No charge for Ooma after the initial unit cost.. Premiere sevice cost $10 a month, but it is not neeed
07:42:58 PMajamison5579 Robbief that is not entirely true you use Windows for the broadcast server
07:43:01 PMGoodGuy needed
07:43:37 PMGoodGuy Only monthly charge is taxes.. they said it would be $3.95 in our area
07:44:57 PMGoodGuy Ooma is available in Canada now acoording to their blog
07:45:42 PMGoodGuy If the user adds the Premiere service.. USA to Canada and vice versa were free
07:46:17 PMGoodGuy without I believe it gives free calls withjn your country
07:46:39 PMGoodGuy Ooma to Ooma calls are free anywhere in the world from what I read
07:48:53 PMtic-toc_ zap
07:49:16 PMtic-toc_ one ringy dingy
07:49:41 PMGuest_8197 the best product on the market
07:50:15 PMGuest_8197 also comes with a smart pohone app to make calls to canada and the usa for free from anywhere you get wifi in the world
07:50:25 PMzb1 bye everybody
07:50:31 PMzb1 I am losing dsl again
07:50:51 PMajamison5579 Hillary what about if you look at the modem will it go down
07:50:59 PMpyrosrock when i was in sweden dad could call me at 12c a minute to my mobile whereas at home its 20c a min with our voip phone
07:51:46 PMGuest_8197 also on your smart phone using the app!!
07:52:09 PMGoodGuy Ooma can have muliple phone numbers... not sure if that comes with the free service or Premiere
07:52:31 PMajamison5579 Robbief you can do Category5 wakeup calls now
07:53:43 PMGoodGuy lol Hillary
07:53:44 PMG_Dog1985_ lol ajamison5579
07:53:53 PMtic-toc_ Hey lets do some prank calls
07:54:09 PMMichaeliowa thanks for the call
07:54:48 PMcyberSmurf that's MagicJack precognition feature
07:54:55 PMajamison5579 lol
07:55:16 PMGoodGuy ObiHAI uses Google Voice as well
07:55:30 PMinvinciblemutant can i get one of these
07:55:36 PMinvinciblemutant I am in the UK
07:55:38 PMpyrosrock hey RobbieF u know that we can get there numbers from the dial tones!
07:55:54 PMGoodGuy Tekzilla did a segment on the ObiHAI a few months back
07:56:26 PMajamison5579 Robbief but wait theres more, why does that seem to be what i think your going to say next every time you say only $2 a month
07:56:29 PMGoodGuy Infomercial
07:56:40 PMGuest_8197 magicjack has been around for 5 years and sold 10 million units
07:56:54 PMinvinciblemutant Can i try it in the UK?
07:56:58 PMdjhotwheels My phone is voip too. was clear :)
07:57:07 PMbull422 Robbie is freezing up
07:57:13 PMG_Dog1985_ do know what ep
07:57:21 PMGoodGuy I got the old model for $1 at a garage sale
07:57:22 PMGuest_8197 magicjack plus works from anywhere in the world with a high speed internet connection
07:57:34 PMpyrosrock invinciblemutant i dont see why not
07:57:36 PMGoodGuy Never tried it because it needed the PC on
07:58:01 PMajamison5579 can yo assign more then one number per device?
07:58:04 PMajamison5579 you
07:58:08 PMGuest_8197 excellent for traveling and students leaving home to go to school
07:58:09 PMMichaeliowa RobbieF: I would like to get the magicjack plus
07:58:18 PMtic-toc_ A good wedding gift....lol
07:58:44 PMsmittysmit Is there a contest... Hint Hint
07:59:03 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - the ObiHAI units are about $40 and no charge after that
07:59:05 PMinvinciblemutant pyrosrock: what phone number i will using then
07:59:06 PMnapa_polarbear i use one to call my kids in penticton BC
07:59:23 PMGoodGuy I bought one, but haven't set it up yet
07:59:35 PMGuest_8197 magicjack to magicjack is free to anywhere in the world
07:59:58 PMpyrosrock Woo go australia!
08:00:00 PMGuest_8197 also using your cell phone app
08:00:00 PMGoodGuy They have a new model with a router built in.. all in one
08:00:10 PMGoodGuy I have an ObiHAI 110
08:00:43 PMGuest_8197 great show !!!!
08:00:43 PMchrisreich all my best to everyone, even Michaeliowa
08:00:50 PMMichaeliowa thanks for having me on the show:):-D
08:00:58 PMbull422 fantastic show
08:01:06 PMRobbieF thanks bull422 - thank you everyone!
08:01:22 PMGuest_8197 thank you robbie, victor
08:01:34 PMBitSprocket Fun show! See ya guys!
08:01:38 PMcyberSmurf Robbie & Hillary: nice show! enjoyed the MagicJack review
08:01:45 PMHillary thanks everyone for tuning in! see ya next timeee!
08:02:00 PMGoodGuy I was researching the MagicJack and saw a fair amt of negative comments about poor customer service
08:02:01 PMmaxwell6307 great show guys
08:02:02 PMinvinciblemutant can anyone please send me one?
08:02:09 PMinvinciblemutant lol
08:02:34 PMGoodGuy If you dont need customer service, it wouldn't be a show stopper
08:02:44 PMmaxwell6307 later all
08:03:46 PMGoodGuy Ooma also has a bluetooth dongle which allows using cellphones from what I can tell
08:04:27 PMGoodGuy also have a wireless dongle so you can place the Ooma base unit anywhere you want
08:04:47 PMGoodGuy Like usual the dongles seem pricey to me
08:05:08 PMMichaeliowa bye all and have a good day!!
08:05:30 PMGoodGuy Stereo and TV dongles often cost way more than normal PC pieces
08:06:17 PMpyrosrock i have been using a voip phone for a yr or 2 now it is cheaper especial to international numers... the thing i like about my voip provider is that it is pre-payed
08:06:47 PMGoodGuy What voip provider pyrosrock ?
08:07:15 PMGoodGuy We just installed ours last night, so I am still trying to get up to speed
08:07:54 PMpyrosrock i use a local australian one GoodGuy https://www.mynetfone.com.au/
08:08:07 PMGoodGuy Ooma also sells their own cordless phone, but it is out of stock now.. a new model will be release
08:08:20 PMGoodGuy Ok pyrosrock .. I am in the USA
08:08:49 PMGoodGuy The Ooma telo handset has extra features used with their service
08:09:16 PMGoodGuy multiple phone numbers (up to ten iirc)
08:09:48 PMpyrosrock RobbieF is the catphone line open?
08:10:04 PMGoodGuy I think they said one extra came with the Premiere package and a small free for the others up to ten
08:10:40 PMGoodGuy They also allow two lines, so I can call a friend and my wife can call another person same time
08:10:46 PMRobbieF pyrosrock catphone is 254-5-CAT5TV
08:12:46 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, - this is another gadget http://obihai.com/
08:13:24 PMGoodGuy no cost after the initial equipment from what I can tell
08:13:49 PMGoodGuy Amazon had a couple models for $40 or so
08:14:22 PMGoodGuy New model with a router in on the home page for $75
08:15:02 PMGoodGuy ObiHai didn't look as simple as the MagicJack, but has more capabilities
08:16:57 PMGoodGuy This is the one I bought
08:16:59 PMGoodGuy http://www.amazon.com/OBi110-Service-Bridge-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B0045RMEPI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337127387&sr=1-1
08:17:33 PMGoodGuy almost 600 reviews - 4 1/2 stars on Amazon seems pretty good
08:19:02 PMinvinciblemutant Just wonder can ubuntu be use as a voip gateway
08:21:15 PMpyrosrock dont see why not but seems a little redundant
08:21:42 PMGoodGuy These boxes just hook to a router, so no need for a pc other than configuration
08:21:44 PMpyrosrock though i have made calls form ubuntu through my voip provider
08:21:46 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: do you know where is the file saving the user choice of desktop (gnome-shell, unity...) settings
08:22:32 PMGoodGuy I think both the Ooma and ObiHAI have mobile apps also
08:22:56 PMGoodGuy I dont own a smartphone, so it isnt useful for me
08:24:54 PMGoodGuy Veronica Belmont lives with her boyfriend and he works at GDGT.... He installed the ObiHAI device in their house and gave it a pretty good review
08:25:22 PMGoodGuy He discussed it on a Tekzilla episode
08:25:26 PMpyrosrock has anyone else tryed the EA web games avalible through the ubuntu software center?
08:25:32 PMGoodGuy I havent
08:27:03 PMGoodGuy http://revision3.com/tekzilla/color-match-pc-monitors
08:27:27 PMGoodGuy That is the Tekzilla episode they discuss it
08:28:09 PMGoodGuy Under the make Google Voice Your Landline on the timeline
08:44:37 PMpyrosrock GRR RobbieF the photobooth just crashed my firefox :(
08:50:03 PMRobbieF pyrosrock, photobooth doesn't crash firefox. Flash does.
08:50:04 PMRobbieF ;)
08:50:55 PMRobbieF ATTENTION PLEASE.l
08:51:01 PMGarbee Yea?
08:51:08 PMRobbieF Turns out MagicJack was watching tonight.
08:51:11 PMRobbieF They just called.
08:51:12 PMGarbee Nice.
08:51:15 PMGarbee Sponsor?
08:51:25 PMRobbieF I have some to give away, starting next week.
08:51:29 PMRobbieF BE WATCHING
08:51:40 PMinvinciblemutant cool
08:51:45 PMRobbieF Contest begins next Tuesday night.
08:51:48 PMinvinciblemutant worldwide or just us and canada
08:51:49 PMGarbee Nice. Now I disturb Robbie with a PM...
08:52:09 PMRobbieF invinciblemutant - worldwide - just don't mind that you will have to have a US or Canadian magic jack number :)
08:52:25 PMinvinciblemutant cool
08:52:28 PMGarbee I have always wondered how MJ works.
08:52:37 PMGarbee I would love to get some tech details fo rit.
08:53:56 PMRobbieF Garbee, it's its own beast, but essentially a VOIP network
08:54:03 PMRobbieF a very sophisticated and easy to use one
08:55:27 PMGarbee That is what makes me curious to how it works.
08:55:50 PMinvinciblemutant what is the catphone?
08:55:51 PMGarbee I would love to see a map of how the systems work. I think when you plug them in they call a server to update IP and route the calls there.
08:57:18 PMinvinciblemutant is google voice free calling to US & canada numbers?
08:57:19 PMRobbieF catphone is our studio number
08:57:48 PMGarbee Well, I'm all closed up for the night. See yall later.
08:58:02 PMGarbee Hopefully I can have a new wiki treat up tomorrow.
08:58:04 PMGarbee ;)
08:58:56 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: Is google voice free too calling US or canada numbers?
08:59:06 PMRobbieF I don't know. You'd have to google it ;)
08:59:31 PMinvinciblemutant I dont quite understand what it means here https://www.google.com/voice/rates?hl=en
08:59:53 PMRobbieF if you want to call those areas, you have to pay those rates
09:00:30 PMinvinciblemutant Does it means that it is free calling US?
09:02:38 PMRobbieF not necessarily
09:03:24 PMRobbieF United Statesfree from the U.S. & Canada
09:03:24 PMRobbieF 1¢ from everywhere elsefree from the U.S. & Canada
09:03:24 PMRobbieF 1.2¢ from everywhere else
09:03:34 PMRobbieF that's google voice according to the link you sent
09:04:24 PMRobbieF Night everyone! Have a wonderful night!
09:05:35 PMinvinciblemutant do you mean that google voice uses geoip to check where i am using my google voice?

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
BitSprocket
G_Dog1985_
Garbee
GoodGuy
Guest_8197
Hillary
Michaeliowa
Oberon_
Oberon__
RobbieF
SovereignEntity
U-Al
ajamison5579
barn_tech
bull422
chrisreich
cyberSmurf
djhotwheels
invinciblemutant
maxwell6307
napa_polarbear
pyrosrock
smittysmit
tic-toc_
zb1