Chat Logs for Episode 244 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 87 Posts:GoodGuy
With 67 Posts:Garbee
With 47 Posts:tic-toc
With 32 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 27 Posts:pyrosrock


Chat Logs:

06:58:29 PMRobbieF :)
06:58:30 PMRobbieF Hi all.
06:58:31 PMGarbee T0B33, You just don't joke, you also joke very badly.
06:58:47 PMajamison5579 AH nothing like listening to some Skrillex pre-show to wake you up lol
06:59:02 PMGarbee Deadmau5!
06:59:14 PMT0B33 Urgh they are terrible!
06:59:23 PMGarbee T0B33, Don't cross that line.
06:59:34 PMT0B33 Deadmau5 suck!
06:59:42 PMajamison5579 I just like that song Bangarang it sounds kind of interesting
07:00:30 PMT0B33 Deadmau5? Destroy me now haha
07:00:49 PMtic-toc uh oh
07:01:02 PMajamison5579 T0B33 no Bangarang is Skrillex
07:01:08 PMinvinciblemutant hi everybody
07:01:28 PMGarbee EricKidd, Don't have one. Money saved.
07:01:36 PMpyrosrock ^^^
07:02:02 PMtic-toc I aint touching that
07:02:03 PMGarbee You can...
07:02:26 PMT0B33 please ban the word deadmau5 haha
07:02:41 PMGarbee EricKidd, We hope the hops aren't any longer than 54...
07:02:48 PMOldGuyJim Hi.
07:03:45 PMGarbee http://photobooth.category5.tv
07:03:57 PMtic-toc even if we're ugly? lol
07:04:06 PMGarbee Robbie, Don't put me on the spot like that please, I had M&M's in my hadn.
07:04:08 PMGarbee hand*
07:04:13 PMGarbee lolz
07:04:31 PMOldGuyJim Peanut m&m's
07:04:39 PMGarbee Yes OldGuyJim
07:04:59 PMpyrosrock eww peanut m&m's
07:05:13 PMT0B33 Eww peanut they are horrible
07:05:16 PMGarbee No, the Google that makes mattresses.
07:06:26 PMajamison5579 Garbee Google will buy delta next and rename it Google Air
07:06:51 PMMichaeliowa thanks Eric
07:06:59 PMGarbee I hope you got a shower before that 8AM cutt-off.
07:07:02 PMGarbee cut-off*
07:08:08 PMOldGuyJim That would be neat to hear.
07:08:37 PMGarbee Eric is like "Are they really asking that?" with his eyes.
07:09:42 PMGarbee haha
07:10:00 PMGoodGuy At least ppl noticed she messed it up
07:10:10 PMGarbee He bought exactly 1/2 a gallon of milk.
07:10:16 PMGarbee http://cat5.tv/eric
07:11:12 PMT0B33 If i had money i would not be buying groceries i would buy some beer-ies :)
07:11:19 PMGarbee EricKidd, We are glad you are alive too... For now.
07:11:37 PMGoodGuy Eric should play Travis Tritt's "Great Day to be Alive"
07:12:10 PMGoodGuy Maybe that's why you don't have money using that logic :-)
07:12:40 PMT0B33 What Beer-ies?
07:13:00 PMpyrosrock berries?
07:13:01 PMajamison5579 no he should never play country ever on camera
07:13:01 PMGoodGuy plural of beers?
07:13:06 PMajamison5579 I hate country music
07:13:26 PMGoodGuy Well it is similar to what he said a couple times
07:13:30 PMtic-toc I like country and western
07:13:31 PMajamison5579 lol
07:13:32 PMGarbee EricKidd, I will take you on.
07:13:37 PMGuest_5444 I'm no fan of country, but Eric can sure make it sound good.
07:13:50 PMGoodGuy I like country also
07:13:59 PMGoodGuy along with Classic Rock
07:14:19 PMOldGuyJim Yeah...at least you have hair to cut.
07:14:24 PMGarbee I think Robbie has enough wigs to cover having no hair.
07:15:11 PMGarbee 8GB of RAM is great for not having a swap.
07:15:23 PMGarbee You will still want /home on a mechanical drive for actual Data storage.
07:15:46 PMpyrosrock or more!
07:15:58 PMGarbee pyrosrock, No, over 8GB almost no one needs except video editors.
07:16:07 PMGarbee Or heavy VM users like myself.
07:16:07 PMinvinciblemutant how about /, /home, /swap on ssd, and /Documents on the mechanical
07:16:08 PMinvinciblemutant ?
07:16:18 PMpyrosrock yeah i use 12g all the time
07:16:48 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, It is harder to do /docs for users under mechanical disks. Symlinks is the best way, but just having all of /home on the mechanical would make it the simplest config.
07:17:00 PMGarbee pyrosrock, What do you do to use 12GB all the time?
07:17:26 PMpyrosrock well i have maps and such that are 18g
07:17:45 PMGarbee Ok, so heavy chaching. You are not an average user then.
07:17:55 PMpyrosrock so they all load to ram as much as i have loaded up
07:18:20 PMT0B33 Interesting well i'm not going to buy an Solid state disk now :)
07:18:30 PMGarbee T0B33, Why not?
07:19:00 PMT0B33 1GB in my netbook which means i'll have to have swap so i'll probably destroy the drive
07:19:12 PMajamison5579 I use the crucial soultuion where they take one of their SSD's and uses it as a cache for your mechanical drive
07:19:35 PMajamison5579 it speed up my computer alot and alot less frustrating then converting everything over to SSD only
07:19:47 PMinvinciblemutant you can have the gnome-shell-extensions to keep the menu in gnome-shell
07:19:53 PMOldGuyJim Ohhhhh.
07:19:54 PMGoodGuy Not this year
07:19:58 PMinvinciblemutant i am using it
07:20:02 PMinvinciblemutant pretty good
07:20:06 PMpyrosrock TOB33 i stuck 2g ram in my old netbook... but didnt use it much over 1 so... probs not to bad
07:20:35 PMpyrosrock depends what u use it 4
07:20:53 PMGoodGuy If they aren't swapping a great deal, use normal hard drive space
07:21:14 PMGoodGuy It shouldn't influence performance that much
07:21:45 PMGoodGuy FYI... I received my Raspberry PI yesterday, so they are shipping
07:21:46 PMT0B33 Well my spinning drive is still kicking so if that fails i might consider a SSD and speaking of Zorin i am using Zorin os 6 core RC it's awesome
07:22:22 PMGarbee http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/owncloud-4-released-with-file.html --Awesome update to Owncloud for those who use it or want to check it out.
07:22:47 PMOldGuyJim You spelled it wrong.
07:23:04 PMajamison5579 I think the software center only works for the shipped repositories Robbief
07:23:11 PMGuest_4597 T0B33: is there much difference between 5 and 6
07:23:16 PMGarbee OldGuyJim, If you type it in as the package name, it will still show up.
07:23:21 PMGoodGuy Thank you for the OwnCloud info Garbee
07:23:35 PMinvinciblemutant aha, it is called dockmanager in software centre
07:23:50 PMOldGuyJim Old eyes saw it wrong. My bad.
07:23:59 PMGarbee Well, It *should* still show up.
07:24:18 PMinvinciblemutant dockemanager
07:24:19 PMGarbee I don't claim to know what Canonical does now-a-days.
07:24:55 PMTacoWan First time to catch the show live, from Steelton PA
07:25:06 PMGarbee EricKidd, How many hops do you think it would take?
07:25:09 PMpyrosrock welcome TacoWan
07:25:20 PMGoodGuy Welcome TacoWan
07:25:29 PMEricKidd how many hops are in a case of Guinness?
07:25:33 PMOldGuyJim Hello TacoWan.
07:25:42 PMGoodGuy Better than Taco Stein.... the official from Aruba :-)
07:25:45 PMT0B33 Guest_4597 Zorin OS uses AWN as the panel and it has Dockbar-x and Gnomenu like it always did installed. Has less applications installed than the other one did. Other than that not much but it has a more appealing look now that may make a windows user feel more at home if using it
07:25:49 PMGuest_4597 will dockbarx enable me to move the unity dock
07:25:53 PMGarbee EricKidd, I am not a beer guy. But I do know it would have to be less than 54. ;)
07:26:07 PMinvinciblemutant may be if robbief spells it out, webup8 will sponsor the show
07:26:10 PMGarbee Networking joke for those who get it.
07:26:32 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, I don't think he will.
07:27:09 PMinvinciblemutant a quick question here
07:27:31 PMGarbee Silence, then make a sound as the video starts, and use that as your point of reference.
07:27:40 PMGoodGuy Sasha Baron Cohen "The Dictator"
07:27:59 PMinvinciblemutant i have got a dell machine with 2x 6 pin power leads for display card, but the display card requires 1x6 pin + 1x8pin power leads
07:28:00 PMGoodGuy He is a strange character
07:28:09 PMinvinciblemutant anyone here has a solution?
07:28:12 PMtic-toc goldwave is a great program
07:28:38 PMGoodGuy Check out monoprice.com invinciblemutant .. they have live chat, so ask a rep
07:28:46 PMinvinciblemutant suprisingly that dell hs limited power leads from it power supplier
07:29:03 PMinvinciblemutant only old type 4 pin power for PATA drive
07:29:07 PMajamison5579 Robbief Erickidd you could also use Robbie's Air horn
07:29:23 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, Contact Dell. They used to do all kinds of tricks to force people to buy their repair parts only.
07:29:47 PMGoodGuy Monoprice has a lot of odds and ends plus low pricing, so worth asking
07:30:02 PMtic-toc clap on- clap off- the clapper
07:30:12 PMT0B33 Bruce Allmighty? haha
07:30:45 PMinvinciblemutant Garbee: the machine is brand new
07:30:52 PMGoodGuy I bought an old Harmony Remote at a church thrift sale... handles 15 devices.... B & W, but it was only $5 USA
07:31:03 PMGoodGuy Looks like it works so far
07:31:10 PMVE3NSO Hi Scorpio how are you tonite ???
07:31:17 PMajamison5579 Robbief would the aIr horn work
07:31:23 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, Ah, then just go to monoprice then and pick up some converters, or Newegg if they ship to your area.
07:31:38 PMGoodGuy It was recognized by the OS, but I didn't setup Activities
07:31:55 PMinvinciblemutant Garbee: that is what i am thinking
07:32:15 PMinvinciblemutant what coffee brand are you drinking robertf
07:32:22 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, I was misreading your post, I thought you were needing a replacment part, not some kind of converter.
07:32:54 PMinvinciblemutant Garbee: the machine is brand new, arrived last week
07:33:04 PMinvinciblemutant the display card arrived 2 weeks ago
07:33:13 PMT0B33 Reminds me of the glasses the saiyans have in Dragonball z :O
07:33:24 PMGarbee Then yea, there should be no issues with parts.
07:33:27 PMinvinciblemutant and it turns out dell has limited power leads from its PS
07:33:36 PMpyrosrock what kinda computer is it invinciblemutant
07:33:46 PMGarbee invinciblemutant, All OEM's do. Makes you pick up a new PSU from them or someone else.
07:34:24 PMajamison5579 Garbee some even go as far as to have a proprietary power port on the motherboard
07:34:35 PMinvinciblemutant it seems that we need to upgrade the psu
07:35:02 PMGarbee ajamison5579, I know quite a few sleezy tricks. That is why I really don't like buying OEM's anymore; as much custom builds as possible for me.
07:35:05 PMinvinciblemutant Garbee: big chasis, but limited power leads from its psu
07:35:21 PMinvinciblemutant Garbee: that is dodgy i think
07:35:32 PMtic-toc wow
07:35:35 PMGarbee Mutant, it is standard practice.
07:35:38 PMpyrosrock yep custom build all the way!
07:35:52 PMGarbee pyrosrock, All-in-Ones are a little tougher.
07:36:25 PMajamison5579 so the Android OS will no longer be avalible on non-motorolla devices after a few years?
07:36:37 PMGarbee ajamison5579, I highly doubt it.
07:37:08 PMajamison5579 Garbee i can see them forking it and using a highly customized build for motorolla
07:37:08 PMpyrosrock yeah but can u belive that an all in one could be competitive price wise? certanly not where i live
07:37:16 PMtic-toc better wear a lead cup if your going to visit Japan
07:37:20 PMGarbee They may make it so the "prime" phones are theres, but that would be the extent of it. Or their phones get the new OS's earlier and faster, once again, their privilege.
07:37:44 PMGarbee ajamison5579, They would NOT do that. They would use vanilla Android. They don't like all the forks on the UI.
07:37:46 PMGoodGuy Plus add access points like some folks do with current networking
07:39:07 PMGoodGuy Robbie - Take a look at OBiHai telo equipment
07:39:12 PMinvinciblemutant i wish to have one in the uk
07:39:21 PMinvinciblemutant possibily 2..hurray
07:39:36 PMtic-toc good deal
07:39:42 PMGoodGuy No fees at all and device isnt pricey
07:39:59 PMtic-toc woo hoo
07:40:59 PMGoodGuy If both sides have an OBi device, internationalk calls are free
07:41:30 PMtic-toc I'm not gonna lie, I don't want to talk to anyone, I just wanna save money on my phone bill
07:41:58 PMGoodGuy Google for OBiHai tic-toc
07:42:24 PMGoodGuy I am playing with it and so far it looks pretty neat
07:42:58 PMtic-toc But I need to keep my existing number
07:43:17 PMpyrosrock Garbee my question answered
07:43:24 PMGoodGuy Ooma has number porting, but that costs more
07:43:37 PMtic-toc thanks
07:43:41 PMGoodGuy I have one here.. Costco has it for $159 USA
07:43:50 PMGoodGuy I have one here.. Costco has it for $179 USA
07:44:08 PMGoodGuy Had a $50 last month, but it is over now
07:44:13 PMGoodGuy rebate
07:44:20 PMpyrosrock oh my its getting more expensive GoodGuy
07:44:58 PMGoodGuy It is easier to setup... has a fair # of extra features
07:45:09 PMpyrosrock is that usb3?
07:45:19 PMpyrosrock cool
07:45:20 PMajamison5579 Wi-Fi
07:45:22 PMajamison5579 ?
07:45:25 PMGoodGuy No fee after buying it.. only taxes.. they said $4 a month in our area
07:45:47 PMtic-toc very nice unit
07:45:48 PMGoodGuy This gadget looks great
07:46:15 PMGoodGuy Is this available in the USA also RobbieF ?
07:46:42 PMtic-toc it will stay nice and cool
07:46:56 PMpyrosrock GoodGuy he said it was on amazon so yes
07:47:02 PMtroy74_ sounds like a biplane
07:47:21 PMbillmnfl I have an Obi110. Cost $49.00 on Amazon. Works with Google Voice. Works great.
07:47:22 PMGoodGuy Thanks pyrosrock .. I was typing, so paying attn to that
07:47:25 PMtic-toc I think Erik bent the fan blade
07:47:44 PMtic-toc lol
07:47:52 PMGoodGuy I have it also billmnfl .... playing with it here and it looks good so far
07:48:19 PMtroy74_ i want one,this is pretty cool
07:48:21 PMGoodGuy The new OBiHai 202 looks even slicker... 4 phone lines
07:48:21 PMcyberSmurf RobbieF: do you know what the power consumption ?
07:48:45 PMGuest_4597 CAN you record live tv
07:49:02 PMpyrosrock RobbieF what format partition is it and can i chuck my videos on it and what codecs?
07:49:13 PMtroy74_ i dont watch cable tv but this would be pretty great for the dvds
07:49:29 PMU-Al Does it have wireless capability?
07:49:44 PMtic-toc yes
07:49:45 PMGoodGuy He said yes with a $15 dongle U-Al
07:49:58 PMU-Al oh ok tx
07:50:30 PMGarbee I see one company that needs some UI design people.
07:50:38 PMGarbee White on Orange, what a stupid combo.
07:51:08 PMGoodGuy lol Garbee .. you arent kidding
07:51:08 PMtroy74_ might come across better live
07:51:54 PMGoodGuy I want this!
07:52:22 PMGoodGuy Better start planning on how to plead with the darling wife lol
07:53:11 PMGarbee EricKidd, You are thinking of the Red buton.
07:53:13 PMGarbee button*
07:53:42 PMOldGuyJim Red Buttons - great comedic actor.
07:53:49 PMGoodGuy WD Live TV does that also
07:54:04 PMMichaeliowa nice
07:54:11 PMGarbee My PS3 has a better seek function.
07:54:26 PMGoodGuy It writes a folder to the drive
07:55:03 PMtic-toc country
07:55:17 PMGoodGuy ROBBIE - ERIC Can you use this as a NAS ?
07:55:17 PMpyrosrock wait... birthday is a genre?
07:55:23 PMT0B33 I just saw anime? :O My friends would love something like this hahahahaa
07:55:25 PMtic-toc or western
07:55:32 PMpyrosrock yes GoodGuy
07:55:39 PMGoodGuy I am sold!
07:55:52 PMtroy74_ does it have the search giant google?
07:56:01 PMpyrosrock ^^^
07:56:06 PMpyrosrock lol
07:56:10 PMtic-toc nice
07:56:14 PMGoodGuy Not reading from a NAS.. I want to save some small files on a flash drive for sharing on the local network
07:56:20 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:56:49 PMrd_blair Can you use it with a plex server?
07:57:16 PMGoodGuy a DLNA Server software
07:57:40 PMpyrosrock how about a dhtneidgrisaop server?
07:57:48 PMrd_blair running on it on my unraid
07:57:56 PMinvinciblemutant does robbie have any show demonstrating how to setup a media centre?
07:58:00 PMpyrosrock *random mash keybord*
07:58:17 PMinvinciblemutant on ubuntu i mean
07:58:18 PMGoodGuy Roku is good for streaming internet shows
07:58:40 PMGoodGuy I use a Roku for that and a WD Live TV for playing local media files
07:59:14 PMMichaeliowa I like my Boxee box
07:59:35 PMpyrosrock i like my... o wait i dont have a tv
07:59:56 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Eric Have you considered an affililate program with NewEgg
08:00:16 PMMichaeliowa RobbieF will is play Category5 live?
08:00:33 PMGoodGuy Jupiter Brodcasting does that,... Might help CAT5
08:00:44 PMGoodGuy I have PlayOn and PlayLater
08:00:51 PMGuest_4597 Android is not the same as Linux
08:01:01 PMGoodGuy they sell lifetime licenses as well
08:01:06 PMT0B33 Android uses software based on linux?
08:01:13 PMGoodGuy Yes T0B33
08:01:21 PMtic-toc great show
08:01:22 PMMichaeliowa lol
08:01:22 PMinvinciblemutant how the magicjack will be drawn
08:01:36 PMpyrosrock Guest_4597 but Android is a version of linux
08:01:36 PMbillmnfl Thanks for all the great info.
08:01:39 PMT0B33 Great show :)
08:01:43 PMGoodGuy I agree.... love learning about this device
08:01:47 PMinvinciblemutant next week?
08:01:59 PMinvinciblemutant by voice calling cat5
08:02:15 PMgpop7 goodnight everyone. have a great holiday weekend. good show.
08:02:21 PMT0B33 Well guys i'm off now. Great show RobbieF and EricKidd :)
08:02:22 PMGoodGuy nite gpop7
08:02:25 PMT0B33 Thanks
08:02:40 PMtic-toc Back to twit.live
08:02:48 PMMichaeliowa vary good show!!
08:03:05 PMgpop7 See you next time same time same station.
08:03:39 PMgpop7 ham nation
08:03:42 PMGoodGuy Just saw it has a browser also
08:04:01 PMGuest_4597 I found an Os called Open Media Vault which may be a better choice than unraid
08:04:22 PMGoodGuy I have that installed in a VM Guest_4597
08:04:47 PMGuest_4597 how do you like it
08:04:53 PMMichaeliowa bye all have a good night:)
08:04:58 PMGoodGuy OpenMediaVault was written by a programmer on FreeNAS
08:05:06 PMGoodGuy It looks pretty good
08:05:20 PMtic-toc is ham nation show on tonite or tommorrow night?
08:05:49 PMGoodGuy I have an old PC running FreeNAS 7... debating on switching that to OpenMediaVault
08:06:03 PMcyberSmurf Robbie: Thanks for the AIOS review, enjoyed it.
08:06:16 PMGoodGuy I second that cyberSmurf
08:06:54 PMGoodGuy Totally new device to me.... looks feature rich at a great price
08:07:27 PMinvinciblemutant great stuff today...
08:07:40 PMcyberSmurf Couldn't find any power consumption info on their website, I'm cruising the h/w boards now. No GPU, powered by a Realteks RTD1185DD media processing chip.
08:07:43 PMinvinciblemutant thanks RobbieF and EricKidd1
08:08:34 PMtic-toc Really enjoy this show, glad I found it
08:08:59 PMGoodGuy Great community here also tic-toc .. you should love it here
08:09:48 PMEricKidd1 Does tic-toc know about the hazing rituals for new community members?
08:09:48 PMtic-toc I can tell, I watch alot of tech shows online.
08:10:12 PMcyberSmurf Tell him Eric :-)
08:10:36 PMtic-toc Hey, Im the Red Wings guy be careful... lol
08:10:49 PMEricKidd1 Go Leafs, Go!!
08:10:58 PMGoodGuy Ditto here.. I download a selection of internet shows via Miro, copy them to a Flash Drive and watch them on a WD Live TV in the mornings at breakfast
08:11:01 PMtic-toc I like the leafs too
08:11:17 PMEricKidd1 OK, tic-toc, you're in!
08:11:17 PMtic-toc Good ole hockey
08:11:30 PMGoodGuy My wife learns accidenly by osmosis :-)
08:11:37 PMtic-toc nothing better
08:11:56 PMcyberSmurf Hey, Eric made me sing country while standing in a river with ice flows :-(
08:12:40 PMEricKidd1 Yea, i went easy on you, cyberSmurf... poor tic-toc should be afraid...very afraid
08:12:40 PMcyberSmurf ... these new-comers :-)
08:12:41 PMGoodGuy What were you doing in a river with ice floes? Steelhead fishing?
08:13:14 PMtic-toc Im a white guy from Detroit, I don't scare easy
08:13:28 PMGoodGuy lol.. I am in that area also
08:13:32 PMcyberSmurf lol
08:13:49 PMGoodGuy Do scare fairly easy since I drove around Detroit
08:14:09 PMtic-toc Its like a war zone around here
08:14:26 PMGoodGuy Did marry a girl from Detroit though, so I did brave it years ago
08:14:58 PMGoodGuy Cover me while I go to the mailbox lol
08:15:11 PMGoodGuy I saw a t-shirt with that on it one time
08:15:21 PMtic-toc You got it, lol
08:17:15 PMGoodGuy Did you see that Yahoo article that said Flint and Detroit were rated number one and two in the worst places to live in the USA
08:18:10 PMtic-toc When I come back from Canada the Detroit border guard ask me if Im carrying any weapons and I said no, Then he ask me if I want to buy some
08:18:17 PMGoodGuy lol
08:19:00 PMcyberSmurf hahaha
08:19:06 PMGoodGuy Lucky he didnt say you must now have much common sense
08:19:12 PMGoodGuy not
08:19:23 PMtic-toc yeah flint is a bad area too
08:19:44 PMGoodGuy On the news they showed a big name pastor was carjacked
08:20:02 PMGoodGuy Guess what his next sermon was on
08:20:20 PMtic-toc Yeah it was waynan
08:21:16 PMGoodGuy IIrc they stole wheels off a politicians car a couple years back when he/she stopped in town for some event
08:21:17 PMtic-toc Im not kidding it really is bad in Detroit now. They will shoot you in a heart beat
08:21:47 PMcyberSmurf scratches Detroit off his vacation wish-list.
08:21:58 PMtic-toc They stole the tires off of Jesse Jacksons escalde
08:22:08 PMGoodGuy Capital punishment may not help, but it may be worth finding out
08:22:21 PMtic-toc I agree
08:22:31 PMGoodGuy Thanks tic-toc .. I didnt remember who it was
08:22:52 PMcyberSmurf need to run, catch you guys next week.
08:22:59 PMGoodGuy night cyberSmurf
08:23:15 PMGoodGuy I need to run for a bit also
08:23:24 PMGoodGuy Nice meeting you tic-toc
08:23:36 PMtic-toc Same here
08:23:39 PMGoodGuy Stop in next week if you can
08:24:34 PMtic-toc Anyone else download Zorin 6
08:27:45 PMGuest_4597 tic-toc is there much difference
08:29:28 PMtic-toc Yes its gnome 3
08:30:07 PMGarbee Zorin 6 = meh
08:30:15 PMtic-toc Its the release canidate so its still a little buggy
08:30:45 PMtic-toc I agree, 5.2 is hard to beat
08:32:12 PMRobbieF Thanks all. Hope you enjoyed the show.
08:32:49 PMtic-toc gnome 3 to me is like windows vista.
08:35:44 PMRobbieF ach; I lost my irc connection there ;) did people get my message?
08:35:44 PMRobbieF (08:32:12 P
08:35:59 PMGarbee Robbie, Do you think it is a good idea for a site that is heavy in CSS3/HTML5 to make a whole different theme for older IE's that is much more basic rather than building support for the older IE's into the new age of web design?
08:36:18 PMGarbee I didn't get it Robbie.
08:36:57 PMRobbieF I think that's a great idea Garbee. The IE specific design should be like this: "Upgrade your browser"
08:37:24 PMGarbee Yea, I am thinking of doing that as a javascript overlay on every page, but have a *super* simple layout, plain black on white.
08:37:39 PMGarbee The whole 9 yards of 1991 web design just for them.
08:37:42 PMGuest_4597 Live long and prosper guys
08:38:37 PMGarbee Someone in another room just tried convincing me to support IE out of the gate since I could "possibly lose sales for not supporting it." My response was "It isn't my job to support ignorance. ... Upgrade or Die."
08:38:54 PMGarbee I will worry about IE support after the site is launched and most of the big features are in.
08:39:26 PMGarbee And then it will most likely be a new front-end since I thought of that, it would be MUCH easier to make a super basic theme for it than to make the current theme work with older IE's.
08:40:31 PMRobbieF People who run IE 6 are probably not going to spend much ;)
08:41:01 PMGarbee My login/register page won't even work in IE 9! That shows how much it sucks.
08:41:31 PMGarbee Robbie, actually some of our most ignorant people are out biggest spenders.
08:41:44 PMGarbee But I have a Firefox Affiliate link waiting for them.
08:42:00 PMGarbee Until I build the most basic store you could possibly imagine for them.
08:43:16 PMGarbee Oh well, I need to walk this dog and get to bed. Night all.
08:47:18 PMtic-toc time for ham nation
08:48:40 PMtic-toc c ya'll next time

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
EricKidd
EricKidd1
Garbee
GoodGuy
Guest_4597
Guest_5444
Michaeliowa
OldGuyJim
RobbieF
T0B33
TacoWan
U-Al
VE3NSO
ajamison5579
billmnfl
cyberSmurf
gpop7
invinciblemutant
pyrosrock
rd_blair
tic-toc
troy74_