Chat Logs for Episode 245 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 44 Posts:pyrosrock


Chat Logs:

06:58:03 PMchrisreich with 5 years support, you'll have some time to get used to it, agamotto.
06:58:11 PMagamotto lininux?
06:58:12 PMajamison5579 Dennis Lininux is that anything like Linux
06:58:33 PMDennis_Kelley it is Linux, just the name of it. its Debian based
06:58:36 PMagamotto chrisreich- True... this Unity thing is going to take some time though
06:58:43 PM_Jot_ who is Dennis Lininux? I only know Dennis Kelley
06:58:49 PMajamison5579 oh so that was not a typo
06:58:50 PMagamotto heheeh
06:59:05 PMDennis_Kelley It still can not get my head around Unity
06:59:15 PMchrisreich oh yeah - sudden weather deltas hit me right in the neuropathic pain centers.
06:59:16 PMRobbieF here we go folks
06:59:18 PMRobbieF hope you have fun!
06:59:25 PM_Jot_ you're supposed to run with it, you're not supposed to use your head
06:59:27 PMagamotto Tomorrow, I may feel really adventurous and bring one of my Mythboxes up to 12.04
06:59:32 PMpyrosrock whoo i have managed to scuessfuly set up
06:59:33 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - with you around we will!
06:59:39 PMRobbieF Cheers
06:59:42 PMRobbieF And Christa :)
06:59:42 PMpyrosrock 2 screens in 12.04
06:59:46 PMRobbieF She's pretty much the bomb
06:59:47 PMagamotto chrisreich- my wrists are with you :)
06:59:57 PM_Jot_ Category 5 set us up the bomb?
07:00:15 PMchrisreich thanks agamotto
07:00:17 PMDennis_Kelley Sweet my sound works!
07:00:21 PMagamotto I hope not... I don't need a visit from the ATF...
07:00:24 PMRobbieF Yeah but sorry for the echo ;)
07:00:26 PMRobbieF fixed
07:00:27 PMchrisreich hey has anyone got video? I don't
07:00:30 PMMichaeliowa you are the best!!
07:00:34 PM_Jot_ video is working fine
07:00:36 PM_Jot_ sound is there too
07:00:40 PMajamison5579 i am seeing jerky video
07:00:41 PMagamotto doing ok here
07:00:41 PMpyrosrock hey RobbieF
07:00:58 PMchrisreich I never get video anymore at live.cat5.tv.
07:01:04 PMagamotto 20 fps?
07:01:05 PMRobbieF sorry about any jerky video, but at least we're up :)
07:01:07 PMDennis_Kelley Hello GoodGuy!
07:01:10 PMRobbieF bear with the framerates please
07:01:12 PMGoodGuy Everything playing OK here chrisreich
07:01:22 PMGoodGuy Hello Dennis_Kelley
07:01:33 PMDennis_Kelley Frame rate is not so good for me!
07:01:36 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:01:40 PMagamotto No worries, given the virus causing all hell in the Middle East, I wonder what else is flying around today?
07:01:48 PMRobbieF :)
07:01:55 PMpyrosrock hey RobbieF this is pre-recorded?
07:02:06 PMRobbieF Regrettably nothing I can do about the framerate just now...
07:02:08 PMGoodGuy It was likely a targeted virus meant for them
07:02:17 PMRobbieF pyrosrock yes (don't tell)
07:02:18 PMRobbieF ;)
07:02:18 PMchrisreich thanks GoodGuy - I'm watching now via ustream
07:02:23 PMGoodGuy welcome
07:02:25 PMRobbieF Enjoy regardless please.
07:02:33 PMajamison5579 it makes it funny with the audio being slightly out of sync
07:02:40 PMRobbieF Think back to the RealPlayer days when video was by default choppy.
07:02:41 PMRobbieF :)
07:02:42 PM_Jot_ framerate is fine, it's supposed to be a moving picture show, and you can just see the moving of pictures a bit more than usual
07:03:01 PMagamotto I plan to. Hmm, I still need to run Perfectbuntu on my new install
07:03:05 PMDennis_Kelley Yes but not Stop motion _Jot_
07:03:15 PMpyrosrock i duno RobbieF how can we not enjoy a show without Garbee :P
07:03:16 PM_Jot_ Yay! Jot wins!
07:03:16 PMRobbieF hehe
07:03:25 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_ are you aloud to win?
07:03:35 PMinvinciblemutant hi there
07:03:36 PMagamotto Perhaps it is a tribute to Harry (?)hausen?
07:03:41 PMDennis_Kelley *allowed
07:03:50 PMGoodGuy He said Perfectbuntu isnt being updated
07:03:57 PMagamotto poo
07:04:09 PMajamison5579 this is Robbief's attempt at mimicing the old fashioned kungfu movies where they just dubbed the audio over it clearly out of sync
07:04:18 PMRobbieF hehe
07:04:25 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - its hard for me to win things! Wink Wink!
07:04:27 PMchrisreich for perfectbuntu, see Pinguy OS.
07:04:41 PMRobbieF I'll keep that in mind Dennis_Kelley [wink] [wink]
07:04:44 PMGoodGuy Thats what I am running now
07:04:45 PMagamotto To think, I just had some cheddar crisps with dinner
07:04:46 PMchrisreich water- best drink in the house.
07:04:47 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, I feel a winner every week when I get yet another show, no matter if I win another thing yet again or not
07:05:09 PMajamison5579 _jot_ your bared from winning
07:05:15 PMRobbieF Jot saying that is like the rich guy who says "I don't care about money"
07:05:15 PMajamison5579 u win to much lol
07:05:17 PMRobbieF pshaw!
07:05:25 PMinvinciblemutant is christa in this room? just to say that she has made a good sound effect, oo.oo
07:05:29 PMEmiel1976 RobbieF watching from the new site but chatting from the old site because some problems.
07:05:29 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_ you are a winner in our books!
07:05:29 PMPenguincsc hello all
07:05:48 PMRobbieF Thanks Emiel1976 - Beta Phase 2 doesn't start till Friday
07:05:56 PMRobbieF Hey Penguincsc :)
07:05:58 PMRobbieF again :)
07:06:22 PM_Jot_ http://photoboot.category5.tv
07:06:33 PMagamotto garbee appears to be missing this evening
07:06:34 PMDennis_Kelley no H
07:06:35 PMPenguincsc :-)
07:06:42 PMGoodGuy Is it still black?
07:06:42 PMajamison5579 when did Garbee become _jot_
07:06:45 PMEmiel1976 RobbieF thanks.
07:06:49 PMRobbieF Thanks Jot
07:06:53 PMagamotto http://photobot.category5.tv?
07:06:55 PMRobbieF I thought Garbee would be here
07:07:05 PMRobbieF whoops a little typo there jot
07:07:08 PMajamison5579 i know just picking on Jot
07:07:14 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: the link isnt working
07:07:17 PMagamotto Perhaps Virginia fell off the map?
07:07:19 PMRobbieF http://photobooth.category5.tv
07:07:27 PMDennis_Kelley thanks RobbieF
07:07:27 PMpyrosrock oh no RobbieF photobooth crashed my firefox!
07:07:28 PMGoodGuy take off the ?
07:07:35 PMagamotto yah, I blew tht
07:07:36 PMajamison5579 agamotto that is the site to get pictures mapped to your shoes lol
07:07:52 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_ is the winner!
07:07:57 PMDennis_Kelley Just kidding
07:08:00 PM_Jot_ well, I'm no Garbee, and I'm not doing a good impression, I'll try to do better :)
07:08:05 PMagamotto heeheheh
07:08:12 PMticitoc me
07:08:21 PMRobbieF Or Hagerty?
07:08:23 PMRobbieF whoops
07:08:25 PM_Jot_ strange thing is, that I have the site in firefox and it was working there
07:08:26 PMagamotto a
07:08:28 PMajamison5579 that was the fastest draw I have ever seen Robbief
07:08:28 PMRobbieF But he IS probably eating M&ms
07:08:32 PMinvinciblemutant congrats bill
07:08:32 PMchrisreich wrong RobbieF. Try again.
07:08:38 PMinvinciblemutant no drawbot this time?
07:08:43 PMagamotto Oh well, let's just put it down as a rough day, shall we/
07:08:52 PMpyrosrock whoo quick force-quit but missed the draw
07:08:55 PMRobbieF Oh, "live" tv; I'm apt to mis-say things that flash up on the screen quickly!
07:08:58 PMDennis_Kelley drawbot from a hat!
07:09:19 PM_Jot_ drawbot was there, it was just very fast cause it was running on a proper computer
07:09:23 PMEmiel1976 http://photobooth.category5.tv/ works here also
07:09:32 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF chrisreich that is why we drink!
07:09:41 PMchrisreich DRINK! It's hAgarty, RobbieF
07:09:49 PMRobbieF FOR THE RECORD: a looks like o in our 320x240 preview when we're on-air.
07:10:02 PMpyrosrock RobbieF regretfully i dont own a webcam!
07:10:06 PMDennis_Kelley excuses!
07:10:10 PMRobbieF :)
07:11:01 PMagamotto You mean spambots are watching the show?
07:11:48 PM_Jot_ they do time travel, they are really advanced spambots from the future
07:11:54 PMagamotto Louis... I wonder if he is still hanging out with Lestat?
07:12:22 PMinvinciblemutant iptables
07:12:23 PMinvinciblemutant ?
07:12:36 PMEmiel1976 Spam bots like the show XD
07:12:57 PMRobbieF That's a good thought invinciblemutant. I'd have put that in the realm of "Firewalls" but yes, could be!
07:13:14 PMinvinciblemutant who is operating RobbieF irc?
07:13:24 PMagamotto DHCP lease going bonkers?
07:13:26 PMGoodGuy Port Forwarding in his router
07:13:52 PMajamison5579 Invivinciblemutant he is a time traveling android version of Robbief
07:13:56 PMinvinciblemutant or DMZ it..lol
07:14:08 PMpyrosrock invinciblemutant RobbieF is on RobbieF
07:14:15 PMGoodGuy a switch bypasses going to the router because it can reach other nodes just thru the switch
07:14:26 PMRobbieF Dual LAN?
07:14:34 PMagamotto hmmm
07:14:44 PMRobbieF Hard to say when I don't know the setup...
07:14:53 PMpyrosrock i have dual lan in my com but have never used it
07:14:55 PMRobbieF Could be SOOO many things.
07:15:11 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: i cant agree you more
07:15:17 PMinvinciblemutant what i would do is to telnet from outside
07:15:21 PMGoodGuy Robbie - Port Forwarding in his router?
07:15:23 PMinvinciblemutant or port scan from outside
07:15:37 PMlfpagan797 hi Robbie, Thanks for addressing my question and I figured it out. Turns out that I put in the wrong subnet address on physical server .
07:15:38 PMRobbieF I'm under the impression that he's testing through LAN though GoodGuy, not WAN
07:15:39 PMajamison5579 Robbief would bridging two internal Lan ports double your bandwidth to the modem
07:15:50 PMGoodGuy Ok
07:15:52 PMajamison5579 in essence making your internet faster on that machine
07:15:56 PMRobbieF Oh lfpagan797 - there you have it; my first suggestion of DHCP/IP setup issue
07:15:59 PMRobbieF phew!
07:16:02 PMpyrosrock yeah im thinking port Forwarding it stuffed me around for ages when i did a silly setup
07:16:11 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 for WAN?
07:16:19 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, only if the devices support such things
07:16:20 PMajamison5579 no a internal LAN
07:16:31 PMajamison5579 like if a computer has two Lan ports
07:16:52 PM_Jot_ normally if you don't do anything, both the computer and the modem/router would see it as two seperate devices
07:17:02 PMRobbieF it wouldn't ajamison5579 not really. But like anything, it's TWO pipes instead of one. So an individual transfer of one file would not be faster (one pipe) but a transfer of multiple files equally spaced across both pipes would be faster (using both pipes).
07:17:12 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:17:18 PMTic-Toc lmao
07:17:23 PMagamotto Good song
07:17:25 PMlfpagan797 yeah sometimes we forget to check the basics even for I.T people :)
07:17:32 PMOldGuyJim Get over it children.
07:17:37 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - So Funny!
07:17:39 PMajamison5579 Robbief so using WIndows 7 to bridge the connections would achieve nothing
07:17:42 PMGoodGuy I thought they can speed it up using bonding
07:17:59 PMRobbieF With supported hardware GoodGuy, yeah
07:18:08 PMpyrosrock RobbieF there is special software but i havent tryed it
07:18:34 PMGoodGuy Motorola has a cable modem that said it used bonding for higher thruput
07:18:49 PMagamotto Sounds like having fiber optic, but having to use copper for the last 100ft.
07:19:04 PMRobbieF GoodGuy perhaps dual ASDL accounts bonded (not LAN)?
07:19:16 PMagamotto That I could see
07:19:18 PMRobbieF that's a joke agamotto
07:19:22 PMRobbieF we tried that :)
07:19:30 PMRobbieF 12 Mbit/sec. Got 512k
07:19:35 PMRobbieF lol
07:19:35 PMagamotto oww
07:19:36 PMRobbieF what a joke
07:19:36 PMGoodGuy I was looking at a SB6100 or a newer version
07:19:42 PMajamison5579 I imagine a router with two WAN ports is uber expensive
07:19:44 PMlfpagan797 Zorin OS Rocks! Like it very much here..
07:19:58 PMpyrosrock hey RobbieF is there a news article about 802.11ac?
07:20:03 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 you can build your own with either DD-WRT, or perhaps the choice would be M0n0wall
07:20:05 PMGoodGuy They also sold a model with a router and also had the bonding iirc
07:20:12 PMRobbieF not today pyrosrock
07:20:17 PMagamotto RobbieF- you really need to start differentiating between forward and backward slashes
07:20:32 PMpyrosrock RobbieF next week?
07:20:35 PMRobbieF hehe agamotto yes, I have slash dyslexia
07:20:36 PMPenguincsc RobbieF: could you do a feature about setting up OpenVPN ?
07:21:17 PMRobbieF Would be a bit elite Penguincsc which can be tough since we try to keep the "lengthy" features reasonably accessible. But if there's demand for it, sure.
07:21:42 PMagamotto Looking at C and Python code makes me think you have to be dyslexic to be a programmer.
07:22:05 PMPenguincsc RobbieF: K
07:22:32 PMajamison5579 agamotto I am dyslexic and it still makes no sense to me
07:22:38 PMRobbieF :)
07:22:45 PMagamotto So much for that theory...
07:23:13 PMajamison5579 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
07:23:21 PMTic-Toc my kind of girl
07:23:21 PMajamison5579 not COUNTRY!
07:23:31 PMPenguincsc try Radio Tray
07:23:39 PMagamotto There are some good artists in country music... you just need to find the stations that aren't playing the stuff from the 70's all day
07:23:43 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:24:09 PMajamison5579 COuntry is wining to music and yes I know i spelled it wrong
07:24:10 PMajamison5579 lol
07:24:33 PMagamotto Wouldn't most country stations in Canada be based in Sasketchewan and Alberta?
07:24:34 PMlfpagan797 any good website to learn how to run steam games to run with Ubuntu (I've tried and failed many times with crossover,playonlinux,wine etc.)
07:24:35 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: dublin? UK? US?
07:24:47 PMRobbieF Ireland
07:24:53 PMGoodGuy The new Denon receivers pulled AM radio..... I heard it was because internet radio filled that void
07:24:57 PMRobbieF http://liveireland.com
07:25:10 PMpyrosrock no RobbieF winamp is HORRIBLE!
07:25:15 PMajamison5579 I do not respect you any less for liking Country Robbief however I myself will NEVER EVER , EVER like COUNTRY
07:25:22 PMRobbieF just an example pyrosrok
07:25:26 PMajamison5579 ok /rank
07:25:29 PMRobbieF will show it with totem
07:25:33 PMajamison5579 /rant
07:25:33 PMlfpagan797 i like amarok
07:25:34 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: why not just rhythmbox?
07:25:39 PMagamotto No Taylor Swift?
07:25:43 PMGoodGuy My wife likes new country.... no twang type
07:25:47 PMRobbieF I don't like it, that's why invinciblemutant :) I'm into simple.
07:25:48 PMTic-Toc How odd, I listen to that same station in Ireland
07:25:49 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy - do you know of a command that I can run in ubuntu to get the hardware device information
07:25:55 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: why stuff up our linux box with more and more players?
07:25:56 PMGoodGuy hwinfo
07:25:59 PMpyrosrock VLC!
07:26:08 PMRobbieF Tic-Toc I'm listening to it here in Canada on a regular basis
07:26:09 PMGoodGuy have to apt-get install hwinfo
07:26:12 PMajamison5579 If i hear ache breakie heart one more time radios will die
07:26:20 PMajamison5579 by my hand
07:26:21 PMagamotto VLC for the win!
07:26:30 PMpyrosrock ^^
07:26:41 PMRobbieF invinciblemutant, agreed. apt-get remove --purge rhythmbox & apt-get install totem-xine ;)
07:26:45 PMRobbieF or thereabouts
07:26:45 PMagamotto ajamison5579- that is simply a bad station
07:26:51 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy - Thanks
07:26:57 PMGoodGuy sure
07:26:58 PMRobbieF The point is, it's compatible with ANY player
07:27:16 PMRobbieF you can play shoutcast stations in Rhythmbox... I'm just giving you a hard time because you're challenging my love for Totem ;)
07:27:29 PMTic-Toc country woo-hoo
07:27:37 PMsmittysmit Radio Tray is a nice player for streaming radio with a small footprint
07:27:46 PMagamotto Inspirational Nunavut Jazz...
07:27:50 PMpyrosrock cant say i like totem always breaks!
07:27:53 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: lol...
07:28:03 PMajamison5579 I like rhythm box and Amarok both are cool i do like that Amarok allows you to use MySQL to store the library info
07:28:04 PMchrisreich VLC has become my universal player
07:28:07 PMDennis_Kelley Do we have a delay?
07:28:14 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: I like something running in the background
07:28:14 PMajamison5579 makes it easy to catalog your music
07:28:26 PMajamison5579 and share the catalog
07:28:43 PMRobbieF I simply despise applications that "catalog" my music ajamison5579
07:28:47 PMajamison5579 well catalog info any not the actual file
07:28:48 PMRobbieF I keep a very organized directory tree
07:28:50 PMRobbieF so that'll do.
07:29:21 PMajamison5579 Robbief i ment only from an informational perspective not actually re-arranging files
07:29:28 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: can totem-xine dock itself or run in the background
07:29:36 PMGoodGuy Just a Kiss is a good country song
07:29:42 PMmaxwell6307 i don't lol
07:29:45 PMpyrosrock haha RobbieF im the complete opisite my files are a massive mess
07:29:53 PMRobbieF there are plugins for it invinciblemutant, but I have no need for such a thing
07:29:57 PMchrisreich the Yee-haw comes from Western Swing. Not country.
07:30:04 PMRobbieF DRINK then chris
07:30:05 PMRobbieF ;)
07:30:07 PMTic-Toc Nooo
07:30:07 PMmaxwell6307 blues
07:30:14 PMsumone Choctaw Bingo Ray Wylie Hubbard is fun
07:30:17 PMEmiel1976 rock
07:30:25 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: I dont like a player running in the foreground
07:30:28 PMchrisreich I do, RobbieF.
07:30:41 PMajamison5579 Yo John SMith
07:30:42 PMDennis_Kelley hay guy!
07:30:44 PMajamison5579 lol
07:30:51 PMchrisreich Buddy Guy is a blues player
07:30:54 PMchrisreich guitar
07:30:57 PMpyrosrock oh RobbieF the mafia is comming!
07:30:57 PMRobbieF :)
07:31:02 PMMichaeliowa lol
07:31:03 PMgpop7 blues
07:31:22 PMchrisreich Blues - the music of *my* people...
07:31:26 PMajamison5579 Pyrosrock Canada does not have a Mafia
07:31:33 PMajamison5579 that i know of
07:32:05 PMchrisreich If Canada has money then they have organized crime.
07:32:09 PMDennis_Kelley Are they too good for the Mob ajamison5579
07:32:11 PMagamotto Hmm, they really don't want to hear about what i do wtih my Mythbox then
07:32:17 PMpyrosrock no ajamison5579 they are coming from italy
07:32:17 PMGoodGuy lol agamotto
07:32:35 PM_Jot_ canady has money? that's just looney
07:32:50 PMajamison5579 Dennis_Kelley using the stereo typical view of Canadians they are to nice to have a mafia lol. I am of course joking
07:33:09 PMsmittysmit The Hopper & Joey will skip commercials but after so many hours
07:33:32 PMchrisreich You gotta love a people that do nothing but make beer - and then drink it up.
07:33:38 PMTic-Toc Who me?
07:33:47 PMDennis_Kelley ok is it possible to have a virus in memory?
07:33:49 PMsmittysmit BRB off for a beer
07:33:59 PMMichaeliowa it is all about the money!
07:34:10 PMajamison5579 Dennis_Kelley sure but once you power down it gets wiped like anything else in ram
07:34:13 PMRobbieF 25 viewer points if you recognize the cookie shot
07:34:22 PMRobbieF no takers?
07:34:31 PMTic-Toc do you know were the gingerbread man lives?
07:34:32 PMchrisreich Mr. Bill!
07:34:32 PM_Jot_ never saw that before, RobbieF
07:34:44 PMEmiel1976 Robbie?
07:34:54 PMajamison5579 I have no issue with using DNA for storage its the "Modified from viruses" part that scares me
07:35:02 PMpyrosrock no... RobbieF i wasent watching trying to keep up with the chat
07:35:23 PMchrisreich not all virii are pathogens
07:35:31 PMRobbieF It's from a BRILLIANT Canadian Comedy called "Less Than Kind". Look it up. A riot.
07:36:15 PM_Jot_ I watch this comedy all the time, it's really funny cause it has two people, and one of them always gets words wrong and such
07:36:18 PM_Jot_ it's called 'category5.tv'
07:36:49 PMRobbieF ;)
07:36:54 PMchrisreich excuse me - "the US international trade commission" what's that?
07:37:13 PM_Jot_ international means those countries that aren't the US, so it means canada
07:37:40 PMchrisreich I'm one of the few people in Rochester, New York who never had a family member employed by Eastman Kodak.
07:38:14 PMchrisreich that explains it, _Jot_
07:38:35 PMagamotto The US gov bullies that tell other countries how they need to make everything available... to them only :)
07:38:36 PMinvinciblemutant i cant get it in the UK
07:38:36 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/magicjack - 30 day free trial
07:38:37 PMinvinciblemutant :(
07:38:45 PMcalhydro Does anybody know of any Open Source Software that print "not just raffle tickets, but larger event tickets including the ability to add sequential numbering?
07:38:56 PMRobbieF They won't send one invinciblemutant?
07:38:56 PMTic-Toc gimme gimme gimme
07:39:00 PMRobbieF (to the UK)?
07:39:11 PMRobbieF I would think you could get it, but just have to have a US or Canadian phone number
07:39:21 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: I think it is for the US and Canada only
07:39:23 PMGoodGuy Their support is rated fairly poor
07:39:30 PMEmiel1976 I don't think that it works out here.
07:39:34 PM_Jot_ yep, only US and canada
07:39:54 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/magicjack - 30 day free trial. If you like it, pay $69 for an ENTIRE year of service, $30 per year thereafter. If you don't like it, return it and don't pay.
07:39:55 PMGoodGuy ObiHair is free after the initial equipment cost
07:39:55 PMagamotto I would imagine it would be illegal in the UK as it doesn't provide a way to supply tarrif to BT
07:40:07 PMpyrosrock i think it shuld work but u may only be able to have a us/canada number
07:40:09 PMGoodGuy Obihai
07:40:14 PMEmiel1976 I have only a mobile phone so i don't need it.
07:40:16 PMRobbieF The #Cat5tv Cat Phone: 2545-CAT5TV (254-522-8588)
07:41:00 PMRobbieF Emiel1976 - MagicJack would give you free calling to anyone in Canada and US, plus you can have it ring on your cellphone for when you're on the road
07:41:13 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: PhD student too?
07:41:48 PM_Jot_ I tried calling the cat phone, and batman showed up, that sucked
07:42:01 PMEmiel1976 Yes but i live in the Netherlands and as I want free telephone I use it from my provider and than i can call also for free.
07:42:06 PMagamotto That is better than having to give them pepperspay...
07:42:11 PM_Jot_ I mean, I expected at least catwoman to come
07:42:43 PMEmiel1976 I have tv on my ADSL account.
07:43:00 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: good stuff
07:43:04 PM_Jot_ it's called IP-tv and they have that everywhere :)
07:43:04 PMagamotto Emiel1976- nice
07:43:30 PMagamotto _Jot_- the continent perhaps...
07:44:17 PMEmiel1976 _Jot_ no not everywhere.
07:44:30 PMagamotto IPtv in the US is a very hit-and-miss proposition
07:45:23 PMajamison5579 Robbief what does the Java script do in that starter file
07:45:25 PMTic-Toc Could you customize the desktop colors on linux with this?
07:45:29 PMpyrosrock i could get IPtv but costs more i just stick to my local tv stations on demand web services
07:45:50 PMEmiel1976 Here it is big but glass fiber is growing and the cable is also still big
07:45:51 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 it's some old fixes for IE to allow PNG transparency
07:45:58 PMajamison5579 ah
07:46:03 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: where is the link again
07:46:04 PMGoodGuy Roku etc is kind of IPTV
07:46:04 PMRobbieF basically to help your site work better in old browsers
07:46:05 PMinvinciblemutant for the demo
07:46:09 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/webdev
07:46:21 PM_Jot_ RobbieF is Garbee today
07:46:25 PMagamotto heheeh
07:46:30 PMRobbieF I wish I had M&Ms
07:46:31 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: what is the current working dir
07:46:37 PMinvinciblemutant for your demo
07:46:39 PMRobbieF http://demo.cat5.tv/013
07:46:45 PMajamison5579 That is a cool tool once i figure out how to use it
07:46:54 PMpyrosrock nah RobbieF we all know u want smarties
07:47:15 PMagamotto pop rocks
07:48:10 PMagamotto I could go for some ice cream, actually...
07:48:37 PMagamotto Perhaps an after-show walk to Whitey's is in order for this evening
07:48:55 PMRobbieF sounds like a plan agamotto
07:48:59 PMpyrosrock after this show agamotto i will be having breakfast
07:49:19 PMagamotto pyrosrock- Must be nice to be a morning person
07:49:19 PM_Jot_ only if there can be m&ms and smarties on the icecream, i guess
07:49:20 PMajamison5579 very cool
07:50:04 PMpyrosrock agamotto i aint a morning person i hit snooze 3 times this morning before getting up 4 the show
07:50:37 PMagamotto Sadly, not even this show could convince me to be awake before 0600
07:50:49 PMpyrosrock _jot_ smarties can be in icecream but they get hard and try to break ur teeth
07:50:55 PMajamison5579 Robbief can this be used for CSS menus ?
07:51:04 PMTic-Toc that was a Zorin logo
07:51:07 PMRobbieF Sure it can ajamison5579
07:51:25 PMagamotto I once flavored ice cream with ground-up Smarties... talk about sugar overload
07:51:37 PMGoodGuy I think he was referring to the link below that
07:52:03 PMGoodGuy The small cat sitting up icon
07:52:11 PMEmiel1976 I use a programm for my css that can do those collors and also give some more effect's
07:52:40 PMagamotto Hmmm, the cat has decided to nibble on my toes again
07:53:01 PMpyrosrock eww cat! shoot it!
07:53:14 PMGoodGuy That will get you up agamotto
07:53:16 PMajamison5579 Robbief can you do custom gradiants or do you still use a tool like that to generate the gradiant code
07:53:18 PMagamotto It is almost as if she were trying to floss or something
07:53:34 PMTic-Toc cats make great moving targets
07:53:36 PMagamotto ajamison5579- both, I would think
07:53:40 PMRobbieF you certainly can ajamison5579 but I want you to have some good solid "starting" tools to help you get the ball rolling
07:53:43 PM_Jot_ agamotto, it is seeing if you're cooked enough to eat yet. You're not just owned, you're the food-supply
07:53:58 PMagamotto _Jot_- Hmmm
07:54:00 PMRobbieF the other thing I want to mention is that the tool also helps by creating cross-browser and old browser compatibility.
07:54:03 PMsmittysmit Had to put a cone over my cats head...she HATS it
07:54:07 PMGoodGuy My friends brother shot a cat with a bb-gun after I warned him not to
07:54:07 PMajamison5579 I ment you personaly are you able to do it on the fly or do you generate the gradiants the hard way
07:54:12 PMsmittysmit HATES
07:54:30 PMRobbieF oh, sure, but I tend to use tools to expedite things. I am a "create it once, reuse it" kinda guy.
07:54:45 PMagamotto I find that my 'pets' are very good judges of character
07:54:50 PMpyrosrock pft RobbieF we shuld avoid bloating websites with old browser compatibility
07:55:14 PMRobbieF pyrosrock - AGREED. Every web designer agrees. But there are still ... ahem .. "people" who use IE.
07:55:26 PMRobbieF so, tell people to stop using IE, and we'll stop bloating our sites with compatibility.
07:55:33 PMagamotto I once wrote someone out of my life because the dog insisted on greeting him by peeing on his shoes every visit
07:55:51 PMagamotto It turned out that he was abusing his kids
07:55:51 PMGoodGuy Many Windows users still use IE because its the default
07:55:59 PMsmittysmit Nice dog...
07:56:05 PMagamotto RobbieF- agreed
07:56:15 PMpyrosrock RobbieF u need to lead the way and people wil relise that there sites arnt loading properly in ie
07:56:29 PMEmiel1976 RobbieF I stopped suporting IE 6 to 8 and Opera I also don't watch if it works.
07:56:31 PMpyrosrock RobbieF chicken and the egg
07:56:31 PMGoodGuy Smart dog.... too bad everyone didnt do that to the abuser
07:56:40 PMajamison5579 Robbief how do you do multi-colored text like so many charecters one color then it switches to a secondary color for like simple text logo generation
07:56:45 PMRobbieF pyrosrock, no. You have to be Google's size to lead that... and that's why it was SUCH a big deal when they pulled IE6 support.
07:57:00 PMagamotto Most 'aware' Windows users have already moved away from IE
07:57:00 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 each letter a different color?
07:57:16 PMGoodGuy They didnt pull modern IE support.. only the old IE6 iirc
07:57:16 PMajamison5579 no like seperat words in the same div
07:57:22 PMajamison5579 instead of making a text logo
07:57:38 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 it's not altogether inappropriate to use the html declaration, but we prefer to use CSS...
07:57:39 PMRobbieF So...
07:57:49 PMpyrosrock agamotto i sadly know ppl that are moving back to ie!
07:57:51 PMajamison5579 so like "My Website" WOuld have a different color for My and Word
07:58:12 PMagamotto So in a sense, using CSS is more hygenic?
07:58:42 PMRobbieF
07:58:42 PMRobbieF Hello.
07:58:42 PMRobbieF This is other.
07:58:42 PMRobbieF
07:58:42 PMRobbieF Then in your CSS:
07:58:42 PMRobbieF #mydiv {
07:58:42 PMRobbieF color: #fff;
07:58:42 PMRobbieF }
07:58:42 PMRobbieF #mydiv span {
07:58:42 PMRobbieF color: #aaa;
07:58:42 PMRobbieF }
07:58:57 PMajamison5579 oh ok
07:59:03 PMGoodGuy Is RobbieF using the tab key to indent the block?
07:59:05 PMRobbieF just as a single example
07:59:11 PMRobbieF I use two spaces to indent
07:59:26 PMpyrosrock RobbieF im going to have to ask u not to spam the chat and to use a service like pastebin
07:59:30 PMRobbieF in gedit I have the tab key insert 2 spaces, so in there, I use 2 spaces
07:59:40 PMpyrosrock :P
07:59:53 PMRobbieF ;)
07:59:59 PMGoodGuy It seemed like he was selecting a block and indenting it all at once
08:00:10 PM_Jot_ RobieF, I'm going to have to ask you to not be abusive to our viewers
08:00:20 PM_Jot_ :P
08:00:28 PMagamotto 'Hit him upstyle... for all the hard times...'
08:00:33 PMRobbieF O:-)
08:00:49 PMRobbieF oh that's in gedit goodguy
08:00:51 PMRobbieF yes, that's what I do
08:00:55 PMRobbieF I have it set to 2 spaces
08:00:57 PMRobbieF and use the tab key
08:01:07 PMajamison5579 Robbief you ought to do a who series on CSS
08:01:07 PMGoodGuy thank you
08:01:28 PMRobbieF ajamison5579 http://cat5.tv/webdev :)
08:01:30 PMGoodGuy Is Rachael ok? She was sick last week
08:01:33 PMsmittysmit Night all. See you in 6 days, 23 hours
08:01:40 PMDennis_Kelley Thanks RobbieF
08:01:42 PMGoodGuy night smittysmit
08:02:13 PM_Jot_ darn, I'm missing the recital
08:02:14 PMgpop7 goodnight all
08:02:16 PMRobbieF hey Goodguy thanks for the concern. She's pretty good from what I know.
08:02:20 PMRobbieF night to those leaving
08:02:23 PMajamison5579 I swear that hissing when she says cool beans sounds like Robbief smurking at first
08:02:24 PMagamotto Hmmm, what flavor should I dine on this evening?
08:02:24 PMMichaeliowa thanks good show :)
08:02:31 PMmaxwell6307 later folks
08:02:34 PMRobbieF cheers
08:02:48 PMRobbieF how did bsp fare?
08:02:50 PMpyrosrock agamotto Bacon!
08:02:51 PMagamotto RobbieF- So, ISP mad at you or something?
08:02:56 PM_Jot_ it is working fine RobbieF
08:02:57 PMgpop7 great show
08:02:58 PMRobbieF the lag agamotto?
08:03:01 PMRobbieF thanks gpop7
08:03:02 PMGoodGuy Good news... Hopefully she'll be back to her normal perky self shortly
08:03:06 PMagamotto Bacon icecream? ewww
08:03:16 PM_Jot_ pickled icecream
08:03:34 PMpyrosrock oh agamotto u have no sense of adventure!
08:03:36 PMagamotto RobbieF- more the lowered framerate... which was better than expected, actually.
08:03:47 PMGoodGuy Cali Lewis would probably like that.. she used to feature bacon items on her show
08:03:49 PMpyrosrock try deepfried then aggamotto
08:03:50 PMRobbieF agamotto that's just me own fault, sorry :(
08:03:59 PMMichaeliowa RobbieF see you on the same "Bat channel same Bat time"
08:04:01 PMagamotto I like adventure, just don't like mixing dairy and meat...
08:04:07 PMRobbieF sometimes we try new things and don't get enough time to test much. Shows who take summers off have it made.
08:04:17 PMRobbieF we do this every week, so when we change things, there's very little time to test
08:04:24 PMsumone time for Choctaw Bingo.thanks all
08:04:59 PMagamotto RobbieF- you won't find me complaining. If anything, just curious about what bits work(or don't).
08:04:59 PMRobbieF agamotto then you'd really dislike yogurt-stuffed cheesy beef steak.
08:05:10 PMMichaeliowa bye
08:05:22 PMGoodGuy bye Michaeliowa
08:05:29 PMagamotto RobbieF- That sounds like some Texan version of chicken tikka
08:05:38 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you should make some and send it to everybody so we can try it
08:05:54 PMRobbieF I've never actually heard of yogurt-stuffed cheesy beef steak agamotto, but now that we've mentioned it, I have a craving.
08:05:55 PMMichaeliowa you have a good night GoodGuy!
08:06:01 PMagamotto heeheeheh
08:06:02 PMajamison5579 Robbief that is probably the most useful segment so far since i am fooling around with my site again
08:06:15 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, are you sure you aren't pregnant, wanting strange foods and such?
08:06:21 PMagamotto heheheheh
08:06:22 PMRobbieF great timing then ajamison5579 - hope it was helpful.
08:06:24 PMajamison5579 Now if only I could apply this to a wordpress theme lol I would love to make a custom theme
08:06:33 PMRobbieF right _Jot_ - good point; needs pickles.
08:07:01 PMajamison5579 well I am out talk to you all later
08:07:08 PMagamotto yech... next, someone will suggest lutefisk
08:07:11 PMpyrosrock have fun
08:07:12 PMGoodGuy night ajamison5579
08:08:24 PMpyrosrock RobbieF is bsp live?
08:08:59 PMagamotto A very funny thing happened over the Memorial holiday at work... I sold more rugs than anything else. 47 rugs in three days... who needs rugs for Memorial Day?
08:09:07 PM_Jot_ pyrosrock, note how Christa isn't in the chatroom
08:09:19 PMGoodGuy Maybe it was due to time off?
08:09:40 PMpyrosrock _jot_ i know thats why i b confused
08:09:46 PMGoodGuy They had extra time to redecorate etc
08:09:58 PMRobbieF pyrosrock - it is online, but is part of the magical pre-recorded system.
08:10:05 PMRobbieF you're seeing it "live" from 2 days ago
08:10:20 PMagamotto I have no idea... you would think they would be carpeting, or painting, or gardening
08:10:28 PMpyrosrock huh cool RobbieF, but a bit weird
08:10:43 PMGoodGuy Or possibly used for picnics to avoid sitting on gradss
08:10:44 PMRobbieF not really, but yeah
08:10:58 PMagamotto GoodGuy- um, ok. I suppose...
08:11:08 PMGoodGuy Muslim Prayer Rugs?
08:11:25 PMagamotto No... that I could understand
08:11:35 PMGoodGuy No idea if they require special types for that use
08:12:31 PMagamotto Not that I am aware of, other than being large enough to keep your head and feet off the 'dirt' during prayers... have never heard of needing a specific type or material
08:13:47 PMagamotto Our manager didn't believe me when i told him that I had sold 18 8x10s in one afternoon
08:13:58 PMRobbieF that's great
08:14:06 PMagamotto She has never had a Guinness?????
08:14:11 PMRobbieF correct
08:14:21 PMRobbieF if you're on bsp you can experience her first guinness with her ;)
08:14:37 PMRobbieF GoodGuy, live a little yeah?
08:14:39 PMRobbieF ;)
08:14:44 PMagamotto wow
08:14:56 PMRobbieF It's truly one of the beautiful things in this world.
08:14:58 PMGoodGuy I have tried several other beers etc
08:15:15 PMRobbieF I even feel dirty calling Guinness a "beer". It's so much more than that. ;)
08:15:22 PMagamotto agreed
08:15:39 PM_Jot_ it's called Beer, not that other word
08:15:41 PMagamotto Especially when mixed with lemonade
08:15:50 PMagamotto Fairy pee?
08:15:57 PMRobbieF hahaha
08:16:09 PMpyrosrock RobbieF i think there are much better Beers than Guinness but just not in canada
08:16:09 PMRobbieF I've not mixed it with anything, other than my mouth.
08:16:10 PMGoodGuy Just tried a Sam Adams speciality at Olive Garden when we went there for our daughters birthday
08:16:17 PMpyrosrock perhaps
08:16:36 PMGoodGuy I thought Guiness was an ale, not a beer
08:16:47 PMagamotto Sorry, had to do that. Stuff like Bud/light, etc... too much like Bartels & James to honestly be called beer.
08:17:03 PMRobbieF it's a stout GoodGuy
08:17:15 PMGoodGuy I was about to type that
08:17:19 PMagamotto GoodGuy- technically, a stout/ale depending on which 'flavor'
08:17:35 PMGoodGuy Saying I dont know what the diff between an ale and stout is
08:18:10 PM_Jot_ oops, BSP ran out
08:18:16 PMagamotto stout is rather dark, full bodied... ale is smoother, goes better with chicken.
08:18:34 PMRobbieF bummer
08:18:35 PMGoodGuy I have one rarely
08:18:37 PMagamotto GoodGuy- that would suck.
08:18:53 PMagamotto I don't drink much, but I do enjoy it when I do
08:18:59 PMGoodGuy didnt seem to kill me ... at least not yet lol
08:19:07 PMRobbieF :P
08:19:14 PMagamotto Just don't drink and derive
08:19:44 PMagamotto RobbieF- So, other than this experimental episode, how are things?
08:19:45 PMGoodGuy Doesnt suck as much as paying for the meds that make it so you cant have beer often lol
08:20:18 PMRobbieF Things are pretty good thanks agamotto. Been a bit busier than I like (means no down time) the past bit, but coming out of that soon, I think.
08:20:40 PMagamotto i heard today that aspirin seems to ward off skin cancer or something
08:21:04 PMagamotto RobbieF- some time to catch up on the paperbacks, eh/
08:21:12 PMRobbieF that'd be alright
08:21:23 PMRobbieF just finished 2001 space odyssey (first time)
08:21:37 PMRobbieF decided to read another star trek novel after that one rather than jumping into 2010.
08:21:40 PMGoodGuy supposed to help heart also, but can cause stomach problems
08:21:43 PMagamotto Did you get a version placed around Saturn or Jupiter?
08:21:52 PMRobbieF Saturn.
08:21:55 PMRobbieF the original
08:22:03 PMRobbieF Jupiter was used as a slingshot
08:22:18 PMRobbieF Jupiter was used for the movie, so I guess any books based on the movie would be Jupiter.
08:22:18 PMagamotto Arthur C. Clarke needs time to fulminate after a reading.
08:22:29 PMRobbieF He's quite good
08:22:35 PMRobbieF I'd never read his work before
08:22:55 PMRobbieF it was rather sophisticated (I'm very used to my sci-fi being star trek novels, which have some great writers, and some novice)
08:23:04 PMagamotto I am just surprised that you found one of the earlier versions. Sometime in the 80's, the books were changed to Jupiter... thankfully my hardcopy dates from 1968(?)
08:23:24 PMRobbieF It is a recent re-print taken back to the original in fact.
08:23:32 PMRobbieF my mother in law (bless her) bought me all 4 books.
08:23:38 PMagamotto RobbieF- Ahhh, the joys that await you. Let me know when you read the Rama books
08:23:53 PMRobbieF Rama books? Are those part of the series?
08:24:02 PMRobbieF not familiar with them
08:24:23 PMagamotto No, another series based upon the idea of our first contact with an 'alien' probe
08:24:47 PMagamotto The first title is 'Rendevous with Rama.'

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