06:58:18 PM | ajamison5579 | Anti-freeze is blue is it not? I tend to not drink hazardos material
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06:58:19 PM | kevoh | wait... how do i get the front camera view/
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06:58:20 PM | ajamison5579 | so not sure
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06:58:24 PM | T061 | Here in Wales. Its raining 24-7 and when we do get a hot and sunny day (like we did today) we make the most of it. You guys are lucky!
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06:58:31 PM | kevoh | not if it expires
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06:58:45 PM | Valpenone | Hi All
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06:59:05 PM | _Jot_ | kevoh, the screen that is on the main channel is the same as the backstagepass, so if you're logged in to the site, you can go to the viewer there and select the backstagepass window
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06:59:14 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief is drinking ... Canada Dry
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06:59:19 PM | RobbieF | nope
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06:59:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Moon Shine?
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06:59:40 PM | ajamison5579 | would make the show more interesting
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06:59:44 PM | emiel1976 | Hi all
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06:59:47 PM | T061 | haha!
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07:00:27 PM | kevoh | it just changed!
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07:00:57 PM | kevoh | and i am sleepy
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07:01:10 PM | _Jot_ | by the way, I have deja vu, didn't I see hillary last week too?
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07:01:28 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, False.
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07:01:32 PM | Garbee | It is in superspeed.
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07:01:41 PM | napa_polarbear | hello
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07:01:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you forget the washers again? Did I win the prize for guessing the question and answer before the show even started?
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07:02:11 PM | OldGuyJim | Whoa...how did that happen?
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07:02:13 PM | tic-toc | puffys
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07:02:14 PM | Duane | googguy where in MI, myself in Pontiac
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07:02:21 PM | smittysmit_ | 43c is jacked
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07:02:21 PM | ajamison5579 | Liquid Cooling is a bit overrated most reviews i see say it changes the temp maybe 5 degrees tops
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07:02:42 PM | Duane | robbief first time
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07:02:54 PM | emiel1976 | Hey RobbieF
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07:02:59 PM | GoodGuy | I live in Warren Duane.. Welcome to Cat5
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07:03:02 PM | Duane | robbief Pontiac mi
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07:03:05 PM | napa_polarbear | hello napa ca
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07:03:05 PM | razor_62 | my secound time here its the bomb
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07:03:16 PM | pyrosrock | hey a bit late tonight
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07:03:19 PM | Garbee | I'm from Mars.
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07:03:25 PM | GoodGuy | I have been to Pontiac several times
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07:03:25 PM | ajamison5579 | and I am in Monroe Michigan three Michiganians
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07:03:31 PM | ajamison5579 | in the chat room lol
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07:03:34 PM | _Jot_ | they set us up the bomb?
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07:03:34 PM | mathman47 | Lisle, IL (SW suburban Chicago)
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07:03:44 PM | smittysmit_ | Hello Duane. I'm in Westland
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07:03:47 PM | razor_62 | lol
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07:03:51 PM | GoodGuy | Been to Monroe numerous times with our son
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07:04:02 PM | invinciblemutant | no wonder
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07:04:09 PM | GoodGuy | Hi smittysmit... Four Michiganders
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07:04:11 PM | invinciblemutant | ff13
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07:04:26 PM | emiel1976 | And Flash has problems with Nvidia in Linux
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07:04:30 PM | napa_polarbear | i thout i was hone i canada
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07:04:31 PM | Guest99493 | my googletalk video keeps crashing
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07:04:32 PM | ajamison5579 | its the WOS tablet
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07:04:39 PM | ajamison5579 | (Windows OS)
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07:04:50 PM | T061 | I dont use flash anymore i used flash replaces to use vlc in a browser to replace flash better performance XD
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07:04:53 PM | Duane | I've been watching the rss feed for a long time, just the first time I've been at my computer when the show is on
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07:04:58 PM | T061 | replacer**
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07:05:07 PM | napa_polarbear | got one 1
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07:05:33 PM | Duane | running ubuntu on both my laptop and desktop
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07:05:34 PM | GoodGuy | I think it's only on some PC's emiel1976 ... My wifes PC wont run Flash unless I use an older version.. I have a nVidia card and it works fine
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07:05:38 PM | ajamison5579 | Postal Mail is so 1990's
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07:05:40 PM | razor_62 | oh getting woosy
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07:05:42 PM | pyrosrock | nice Duane
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07:05:49 PM | napa_polarbear | foe my kids in penticton bc
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07:06:08 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - Hillary .... Is the phone number on the web site?
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07:06:14 PM | Michaeliowa | hi all
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07:06:16 PM | Guest99493 | to you count all previous postcards in
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07:06:17 PM | Guest99493 | ?
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07:06:27 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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07:06:30 PM | GoodGuy | SneakerNet ajamison5579
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07:06:38 PM | napa_polarbear | pstcard like qsl in ham
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07:06:39 PM | GoodGuy | Hi chrisreich
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07:06:44 PM | _Jot_ | they put postal mail in unlocked garage boxes in this country, and you're lucky if you get any post, and the name, street, or number match yours
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07:06:46 PM | chrisreich | Hi GoodGuy
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07:06:48 PM | Guest99493 | robbief: do you count all previous postcards in
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07:06:58 PM | smittysmit_ | Been using Zorin with no issues
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07:07:00 PM | Duane | weather report from MI HOT
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07:07:16 PM | pyrosrock | ugh my compiz keeps crashing after a update :(
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07:07:18 PM | GoodGuy | Can you say the cat5 phone number again?
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07:07:23 PM | Ledzep | Zorin runs fine
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07:07:32 PM | maxwell6307 | Zorin here to
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07:07:35 PM | emiel1976 | GoodGuy, I had problems with it and when I started to look what the problem was, I found out that there are some Nvidia vards and the latest Flash driver will give some problems with the collors. It is solved by disable hardware accelaration with flash.
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07:07:45 PM | pyrosrock | its on the website GoodGuy
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07:07:46 PM | smittysmit_ | Love my Zorin
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07:07:47 PM | maxwell6307 | its great
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07:07:50 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, 254-5-CAT5TV
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07:07:58 PM | GoodGuy | Thanks emiel1976
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07:08:02 PM | chrisreich | I <3 Debian
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07:08:04 PM | Ledzep | Zorin premium for me
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07:08:05 PM | _Jot_ | Goodguy, that's (254-522-8588)
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07:08:07 PM | GoodGuy | Thanks also _Jot_
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07:08:29 PM | tic-toc | Im sticking with zorin 5.2 I do not like any gnome 3.
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07:08:31 PM | GoodGuy | Got it written down
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07:08:40 PM | smittysmit_ | phone lines busy
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07:08:48 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you need to make your voice do pushups more to train it and make it strong
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07:08:49 PM | Ledzep | MS Surface looks awesome from a hardware perspective
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07:08:53 PM | ajamison5579 | I have one of the most confusing numbers it has 5 4's in it including the area code
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07:09:17 PM | tic-toc | oh man
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07:09:19 PM | emiel1976 | GoodGuy, Older Flash driver will also work but I prefer the new flash driver until it dissapears out of Linux and than I will use the Flash suport in CHrome.
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07:09:22 PM | razor_62 | post the VID
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07:09:26 PM | GoodGuy | I like the all girls band Expose
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07:09:27 PM | Michaeliowa | you have pics?
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07:09:27 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief has pictures?
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07:09:32 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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07:09:33 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, pics or it didn't happen
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07:09:50 PM | razor_62 | yes
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07:10:11 PM | tic-toc | fun is what its all about
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07:10:33 PM | GoodGuy | I have to stop Ubuntu from updating Flash or remember to copy an old flash plugin
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07:10:36 PM | tic-toc | hello
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07:10:49 PM | GoodGuy | Keep Mrs GoodGuy happy
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07:11:04 PM | _Jot_ | keeping the Mrs happy is always a good idea
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07:11:07 PM | GoodGuy | CPU Frequency Scallng in Puppy Linux
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07:11:08 PM | chrisreich | GoodGuy just "pin" whatever package runs Flash.
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07:11:13 PM | razor_62 | good beer in austrailia
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07:11:15 PM | tic-toc | incoming message
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07:11:26 PM | GoodGuy | She is using FF
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07:11:46 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF but then if forget to manualy turn the fan on!
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07:11:49 PM | GoodGuy | Wouldn't it still update to a newer flash version?
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07:12:00 PM | GoodGuy | Not sure what Pin is
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07:12:33 PM | invincib1emutant | hi
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07:12:39 PM | Garbee | Pin is making something stick to the start menu or taskbar GoodGuy.
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07:12:44 PM | chrisreich | man pin. Pin is a manager which prevents a given package from accepting automatic updates.
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07:13:05 PM | tic-toc | Im gonna try that on my Alienware laptop. that thing sounds like the space shuttle launch
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07:13:08 PM | GoodGuy | Interesting chrisreich .. learned something new
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07:13:16 PM | GoodGuy | Gotta walk wife to her car
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07:13:19 PM | GoodGuy | brbias
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07:13:25 PM | Garbee | GoodGuy, The only real way to keep it from updating would be to find an aptitude command to stop it ( aptitude --help to start ) or manually install it yourself.
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07:13:45 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF yes great if u can get it to work but a lot of work to get there
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07:13:46 PM | Garbee | Oh, Pin being used in the non-Windows sense of pin.
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07:13:55 PM | chrisreich | that's what it's all about GoodGuy, learning and having fun. And an occasional drink. Oh, and girls. Don't forget the girls.
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07:14:11 PM | Garbee | FYI: RobbieF is a micro-manager.
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07:14:37 PM | invincib1emutant | fancontrols says: cant read configuration file
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07:14:55 PM | invincib1emutant | robbief: i have just install fancontrol
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07:15:08 PM | mathman47 | Yeah Win 7 Pro x64
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07:15:08 PM | invincib1emutant | it is not straight forward
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07:16:06 PM | pyrosrock | setup lm-sensors and run it
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07:16:09 PM | tic-toc | do you smell something burning???
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07:16:14 PM | Garbee | "Little spinning thing" great technical jargon.
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07:16:37 PM | chrisreich | tic-toc don't worry until the smoke detector blasts your ears.
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07:16:54 PM | tic-toc | no, the batteries are dead
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07:17:06 PM | chrisreich | no worries then!
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07:17:07 PM | Garbee | 97 audio is the most compatible.
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07:17:28 PM | Garbee | You shouldn't have needed to re-install.
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07:18:06 PM | Garbee | Linux wouldn't handle it well either.
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07:18:08 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF hot-swaping hardware componants is so much fun
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07:19:00 PM | tic-toc | clippy
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07:19:33 PM | Garbee | JQuery fun!
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07:20:00 PM | razor_62 | ? flies over my head
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07:20:10 PM | Garbee | What the jquery fun comment?
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07:20:13 PM | Garbee | or clippy?
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07:20:37 PM | tic-toc | we want clippy-- we want clippy
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07:20:44 PM | Garbee | http://www.smore.com/clippy-js --Clippy reference for those wondering.
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07:21:01 PM | Hillary | Clippy J's. hahaha
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07:21:53 PM | Hillary | 8-)
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07:21:56 PM | Garbee | http://forum.category5.tv/showthread.php?tid=57 ... Forum post on Clippy.
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07:22:10 PM | Hillary | :-/
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07:22:25 PM | Garbee | I did post an archive with a demo, not sure if it is till live though so follow if you want it and let me know if it doesn't work. I can try to track it down again.
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07:22:27 PM | razor_62 | just blown away here
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07:23:21 PM | invincib1emutant | i experienced that
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07:23:34 PM | invincib1emutant | it was not ok for me though
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07:23:40 PM | invincib1emutant | on ubuntu
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07:23:43 PM | pyrosrock | i love it how a adobie problem (more than likely) is blamed on firefox!
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07:23:44 PM | emiel1976 | RobbieF Linux is not ok with flas
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07:23:51 PM | invincib1emutant | googletalk just crashed
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07:24:12 PM | invincib1emutant | i was forced to switch to google chrome
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07:25:03 PM | tic-toc | was it running linux??
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07:25:16 PM | invincib1emutant | sure...linux
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07:25:17 PM | invincib1emutant | ubuntu
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07:25:19 PM | U-Al | weird wild stuff
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07:25:37 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF i wonder if the cost of calculaters is more than the super computer?
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07:25:54 PM | mathman47 | However, it will be beaten next week by a tablet running Android.
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07:26:11 PM | tic-toc | Vger wants to talk to the creator
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07:26:37 PM | pyrosrock | yeah mathman47 mores law
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07:27:22 PM | U-Al | only 100,000 years for voyager to reach the nearest star
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07:27:25 PM | chrisreich | "Where no one has gone before"
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07:28:09 PM | tic-toc | is it using verizon or sprint to call back to earth
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07:28:42 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, there are more powerful computers in the calculators Hillary uses with all those billions of people
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07:29:02 PM | chrisreich | The return of the Zune!?
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07:29:09 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF i have to say it EWW!
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07:29:15 PM | _Jot_ | it's called Surface, not Zune
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07:29:34 PM | GoodGuy | MS dumped Zune.. How long until this meets the same fate?
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07:29:36 PM | razor_62 | ms=wanna bees
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07:29:38 PM | _Jot_ | what was Surface, is now called Pixel Sense
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07:29:39 PM | Garbee | Well Surface RT for the ARM version and Surface Pro for the Intel version currently.
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07:29:50 PM | tic-toc | i5 cpu in pro version
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07:29:51 PM | chrisreich | that's my point, GoodGuy
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07:30:03 PM | Garbee | razor_62, They did it though with this announcemnt. They made it like an Intel one and got the buzz due to dit.
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07:30:09 PM | Garbee | due to it*
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07:30:15 PM | invincib1emutant | solar storms???
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07:30:38 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, if nothing happened in the studio, then how do you know there were power surges?
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07:31:29 PM | _Jot_ | not on the BSP, never seen the ceiling from that
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07:31:34 PM | razor_62 | Bureau of Indain Affairs runs our power...been working fine
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07:32:05 PM | razor_62 | our neighbors (Town of Parker) has brown outs.
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07:32:05 PM | invincib1emutant | if hillary can install that, anyone in this world should be able to that too..:P
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07:32:07 PM | chrisreich | drink!
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07:32:11 PM | Hillary | thats what i say
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07:32:15 PM | chrisreich | again!
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07:32:16 PM | tic-toc | good lord, let me record this..lol
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07:32:17 PM | smittysmit_ | Similar to the Corsair?
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07:32:27 PM | pyrosrock | oh linux how i love u, compiz crashed befofe now my sound has crashed :P
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07:32:36 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, remember, it's not a motorvehicle, be gentle
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07:32:53 PM | razor_62 | did we lose the show
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07:33:01 PM | _Jot_ | razor_62, no, it is still working
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07:33:02 PM | tic-toc | no
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07:33:04 PM | Garbee | SHow running fine for me.
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07:33:05 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief I have been told the fan at the top of your case can be swapped for smaller fans
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07:33:08 PM | razor_62 | ok back on again
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07:33:09 PM | Garbee | Try refreshing.
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07:33:11 PM | chrisreich | show continues, razor_62
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07:33:30 PM | Garbee | Hillary, Warn people about the rock! It almost blinded me.
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07:33:40 PM | razor_62 | on hughes net sat, it sucks
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07:33:46 PM | Garbee | I know what was happening.
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07:33:46 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief they do make a new version of the Bigwater one made for the Level 10 GT case
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07:33:56 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, RobbieF installed a cooler on his processor in the studio-computer, and he never reads any manuals, and so didn't install it properly
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07:34:10 PM | pyrosrock | i think i need a extreem! RobbieF does the radiator have to be mounted in a certan direction?
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07:34:14 PM | invincib1emutant | what? we need to refill the coolant regularly ?
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07:34:26 PM | tic-toc | I dont do water cooling,
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07:34:28 PM | invincib1emutant | so we need to maintain it like a car?
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07:34:47 PM | razor_62 | last week he said it was sealed
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07:35:06 PM | pyrosrock | yes invincib1emutant normaly but not this one
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07:35:13 PM | chrisreich | "That's what SHE said"
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07:35:16 PM | Garbee | Except for the run-through on Saturday.
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07:35:23 PM | tic-toc | I can't watch
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07:35:26 PM | ajamison5579 | invincib1emutant he was comparing it to a traditional liquid cooling system
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07:35:43 PM | tic-toc | zap
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07:35:47 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Watch the jokes please.
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07:36:01 PM | pyrosrock | yeah never work on a computer that aint pluged in!
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07:36:25 PM | pttrope | who's computer is that?
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07:36:35 PM | ajamison5579 | is this Hilary's system
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07:36:52 PM | Garbee | I think it is one of Robbie's spare ones.
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07:36:53 PM | razor_62 | mine has dust bunnies
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07:37:20 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, don't touch the pasty stuff on the bottom
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07:37:23 PM | Garbee | Or maybe it is the one from Robbie's house that his wife uses.
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07:38:12 PM | chrisreich | Is that the stock AMD heatsink and fan?
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07:38:26 PM | Garbee | No chrisreich, looks like a coolermaster.
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07:38:30 PM | tic-toc | that was a pretty loud crack :(
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07:38:40 PM | pyrosrock | i must admit i have had to replace capacitors that blew but did fix the crashing issues on an old com
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07:38:54 PM | razor_62 | lol
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07:39:38 PM | invincib1emutant | can we use alcohol ?
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07:39:45 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you ask your wife for them, or did you just take them?
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07:39:54 PM | GoodGuy | 99% alcohol
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07:39:58 PM | razor_62 | i drink alcohol
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07:40:00 PM | Garbee | Micro-fiber cloaths are good with 90%+ isopropyl and a mix of distilled water.
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07:40:07 PM | tic-toc | but don't use toilet paper
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07:40:10 PM | OldGuyJim | A small dab of Artic Silver heat sink compound is all you need.
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07:40:18 PM | GoodGuy | Harder to find, but some drug stores have it
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07:40:31 PM | Andrew__ | if you do touch the CPU you can use denatured alcohol to get rid of it
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07:40:31 PM | GoodGuy | denatured alcohol iirc
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07:41:04 PM | tic-toc | jack daniels
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07:41:19 PM | Andrew__ | ghost ajamison5579
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07:41:32 PM | Andrew__ | stupid IRC booted me
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07:41:38 PM | GoodGuy | Hillbilly Hardware Cleaner lol
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07:41:43 PM | razor_62 | are your eyes closed hillary
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07:42:10 PM | razor_62 | cool sound track
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07:42:31 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF y u need 2 take the mb out?
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07:42:46 PM | Andrew__ | Or using a motherboard that had a acces port on the back for the mother board
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07:42:47 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, like he said, to attach the mounting-bracket
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07:42:51 PM | GoodGuy | Probably mounts from the rear
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07:43:07 PM | GoodGuy | a bracket
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07:43:26 PM | smittysmit_ | 42,585 screws later...
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07:43:29 PM | pyrosrock | _jot_ i can change mine w/o taking the mb out
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07:43:50 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, it depends on the case and motherboard of course :)
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07:44:01 PM | tic-toc | easy trigger
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07:44:28 PM | razor_62 | i can't watch...tell me when it's over
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07:44:29 PM | tic-toc | squeeze it
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07:44:46 PM | _Jot_ | did you try refreshing/reloading the page razor_62?
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07:44:51 PM | GoodGuy | I like some of the cases that allow rear access to the mobo cooler area
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07:44:54 PM | invincib1emutant | I would choose to remove all cables
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07:45:06 PM | razor_62 | back on
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07:45:06 PM | Valpenone | Hillary is doing greate :D
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07:45:17 PM | Hillary | :P
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07:45:26 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF if u yank it just do a "dont try this at home" disclamer
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07:45:34 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, shouldn't you normally detach all the cables before you take out the motherboard?
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07:46:20 PM | Garbee | People please be respectful. Hillary hasn't done this before and yes, you are cautious when initially working in systems to not break things. That means taking time.
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07:46:46 PM | GoodGuy | I think ppl are just kidding her
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07:46:52 PM | invincib1emutant | I think so, may be robbie's intention is not to do too many other things that confuses the viewers
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07:47:14 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, normally you would take out all the cables and then turn over the motherboard, RobbieF is doing it the difficult way
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07:47:26 PM | pyrosrock | Garbee yes violence is not the answer just get a bigger hammer!
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07:47:34 PM | invincib1emutant | it also shows that it is a 2 men job
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07:47:36 PM | smittysmit_ | I'm sorry. looks like a "Larry, Moe & Curley"
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07:47:42 PM | razor_62 | I'm confused! where do you put the margarita mix
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07:47:51 PM | tic-toc | she's doing fine
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07:48:05 PM | _Jot_ | razor_62, in a glass, so you can drink it?
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07:48:06 PM | Garbee | Don't shoot my dog again!
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07:48:08 PM | Valpenone | mine was a compliment she is doing fine
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07:48:08 PM | tic-toc | lol shoot the dog
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07:48:41 PM | invincib1emutant | may be the old bottom bracket may work if the screw fits
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07:48:45 PM | Michaeliowa | lol
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07:48:47 PM | pyrosrock | nah if u guna shoot something shoot the cat!
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07:48:55 PM | U-Al | Hillary is better that geek squad.
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07:49:24 PM | U-Al | *than
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07:49:33 PM | ajamison5579 | Mwuhahahaha i remember doing that all to well
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07:49:37 PM | GoodGuy | I have a Sears screwdriver that has claws to hold the screw.. works pretty good most times
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07:49:39 PM | invincib1emutant | i do use magnetic screw drivers, but just be careful when using it
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07:49:42 PM | ajamison5579 | Curse you mother board screws
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07:49:45 PM | smittysmit_ | Play doe work great
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07:50:02 PM | GoodGuy | Who isn't U-Al :-)
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07:50:06 PM | chrisreich | In case of difficulty, I've used a dab of heat sink compound to hold a screw to the screwdriver tip.
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07:50:14 PM | tic-toc | I hope this thing don't short out and take out the central air conditioning...lol
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07:50:26 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF have u seen the screwdrivers with the screw grabber?
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07:50:40 PM | U-Al | that's true GoodGuy
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07:50:53 PM | _Jot_ | I leave all kinds of screws in my computer all the time! I put them in those little holes provided in the cases. I think they are called 'screwholes'
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07:50:56 PM | GoodGuy | Thats what I have pyrosrock .... love those
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07:51:07 PM | Valpenone | _Jot_: lol
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07:51:20 PM | GoodGuy | Worth every cent
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07:52:12 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you missed a spot
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07:52:18 PM | _Jot_ | I'm pointing it out right now
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07:52:34 PM | tic-toc | 8 minutes tic-toc tic-toc
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07:52:50 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF remember to take the plastic protecter off the block!
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07:52:54 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary could do it in 8 minutes easy. We could do it too. RobbieF? not a chance
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07:53:45 PM | T061 | That reminds me of Tony Starks mini Arc reactor lol
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07:53:48 PM | tic-toc | a lot of screws in that
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07:54:59 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, like I said, RobbieF normally never uses manuals, this is the first time he actually reads one
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07:55:08 PM | tic-toc | uh-oh
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07:55:36 PM | Valpenone | _Jot_: but it was fun watching 8 houers computer install :D
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07:55:39 PM | smittysmit_ | What about replacing the compound with AS5?
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07:55:45 PM | chrisreich | It's okay to mess up - as long as there is someone else to blame...
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07:55:47 PM | _Jot_ | Valpenone, yeah, definatly :)
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07:56:12 PM | tic-toc | use duct tape
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07:56:14 PM | razor_62 | i throw thows away
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07:56:47 PM | T061 | LOL!
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07:56:47 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, when we install this thing, do we have to make the same mistakes, or can we just do it properly the first time?
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07:56:56 PM | Hillary | haha
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07:56:57 PM | GoodGuy | Edison said he didn't fail 9,999 times.. He learned what didn't work
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07:57:10 PM | GoodGuy | No wonder he was so smart
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07:57:33 PM | tic-toc | just don't shoot the dog
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07:57:42 PM | razor_62 | does the margarita thing again
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07:57:45 PM | pyrosrock | yeah wont work without the threads!
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07:58:10 PM | GoodGuy | Is Hillary paid by the hour? lol
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07:58:26 PM | smittysmit_ | Now we need a vote...shoot the dog or not?
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07:58:30 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary will get a 300% overtime bonus, so she'll make 300% of 0 loonies
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07:58:36 PM | Hillary | shoot it
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07:58:43 PM | razor_62 | ta daaa!
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07:58:50 PM | GoodGuy | Save the critters
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07:58:55 PM | smittysmit_ | Not!
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07:59:16 PM | razor_62 | when do you use the hammer
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07:59:25 PM | OldGuyJim | Reminds me of old-time live television when sets would fall down or an actor was drunk.
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07:59:25 PM | GoodGuy | Hillary can say she is cool for real
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07:59:29 PM | smittysmit_ | Stil needs a vote
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07:59:35 PM | chrisreich | on the radiator, razor_62
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07:59:44 PM | ajamison5579 | I am a bit conflicted all the reviews i read say liquid cooling is not much better then forced air
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07:59:45 PM | razor_62 | i thought so
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07:59:59 PM | GoodGuy | I thought Charlie Scheen was keeping that tradition alive OldGuyJim
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08:00:06 PM | GoodGuy | Sheen
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08:00:15 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579, me too, and then people say 'but it is much quieter' but the radiator still needs fans, so that can't be the difference either
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08:00:15 PM | smittysmit_ | $80, US or Canadian?
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08:00:19 PM | tic-toc | untill it springs a leak
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08:00:25 PM | invincib1emutant | I normally dont screw in all screws that i cant it added later, as long as they are not covered up by other hardware, it is ok to be done later
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08:00:35 PM | OldGuyJim | Sorry, but I don't watch too much present day television...Charlie who?
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08:00:35 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5579 it is my understanding that the big advantage of liquid cooling is reduced acoustic noise.
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08:00:57 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Not anymore. Now air cooling can be just as quiet and effecient as water cooling.
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08:01:02 PM | invincib1emutant | i mean...that i can added later...
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08:01:25 PM | GoodGuy | I thought that was true also Garbee
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08:01:32 PM | invincib1emutant | the auto focus of the camera is very good
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08:02:01 PM | pttrope | can you monitor the pump failure?
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08:02:02 PM | razor_62 | my dog just fell asleep
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08:02:05 PM | GoodGuy | At least very close in thermal performance and a lot less complex
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08:02:35 PM | smittysmit_ | WOW...we're in overtime...it's 20:02
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08:02:41 PM | GoodGuy | Smell the burning electronics pttrope :-)
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08:02:50 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, I told him the last time... Step 1: Read the manual... He didn't learn :P
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08:02:54 PM | razor_62 | is this history
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08:02:55 PM | invincib1emutant | yea...
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08:02:59 PM | tic-toc | my dog ran away when hillary started saying shoot the dog
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08:03:30 PM | Garbee | Water blocks are really only superior on average now in environments that are generally hot. Beyond that air + water cooling are just about level since you can't really ever get below (typically even at) the ambiant temperature.
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08:03:31 PM | chrisreich | In my experience, step 2 is "read the manual. Again."
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08:03:48 PM | GoodGuy | Seems like quite a bit of effort for a few degrees less temps
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08:04:07 PM | GoodGuy | Unless the user overclocks
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08:04:21 PM | razor_62 | I just keep things clean
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08:04:58 PM | tic-toc | I overclock and you do need extra cooling
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08:05:10 PM | _Jot_ | That things looks like a spaceship in a sciencefiction movie when you move it around in a way
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08:05:17 PM | invincib1emutant | robbie just overclocked (overtimed)
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08:05:21 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF the one time i thought i could rely on u not going overtime!
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08:05:34 PM | razor_62 | at work now and everyone just left
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08:05:58 PM | Garbee | welearnlive.com is not registered.
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08:06:00 PM | Valpenone | no problem tuching the compund just remove it and put some god stuff on it :D
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08:06:03 PM | tic-toc | still here
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08:06:22 PM | razor_62 | meant in my office
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08:06:23 PM | T061 | That looks really awesome RobbieF and Hillary :)
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08:06:32 PM | tic-toc | we are all holding out fire extinguishers
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08:06:47 PM | razor_62 | hillary say cool beans
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08:07:06 PM | GoodGuy | Use the White room next time
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08:07:23 PM | razor_62 | hey thats written in canadian
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08:07:28 PM | smittysmit_ | Yes, say "Cool Beans"
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08:07:31 PM | T061 | Thanks for going to the effort showing us all this and how it works RobbieF and Hillary. :)
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08:07:35 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF u cant have it upside down!!!!!
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08:08:02 PM | GoodGuy | Hillary passed the "female" test.. she actually read the instructions.... she probably asks for directions when lost also
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08:08:31 PM | smittysmit_ | Do it Hillary...go 4 it
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08:08:31 PM | _Jot_ | Asking for instructions when lost? Nobody ever knows the way to anything without GPS anymore these days
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08:08:44 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF is cringing!
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08:09:01 PM | GoodGuy | locals might know where a place is
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08:09:01 PM | razor_62 | will hammer work now
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08:09:21 PM | smittysmit_ | I say go for the Hammer
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08:09:23 PM | tic-toc | I wont say it
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08:09:37 PM | smittysmit_ | Hammer + good
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08:10:05 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, screws on the outside, like displayed in the manual, perhaps? (don't have the manual, but I'm pretty sure it's true)
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08:10:31 PM | smittysmit_ | Hillary is under pressure
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08:10:51 PM | tic-toc | thats what makes it fun
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08:10:56 PM | ajamison5579 | Its a computer Robbief makes them in his sleep
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08:10:59 PM | ajamison5579 | he can repair it
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08:11:01 PM | smittysmit_ | Go Hillary go...
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08:11:05 PM | GoodGuy | parenting practice Hillary
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08:11:05 PM | razor_62 | hillary is making funny faces
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08:11:08 PM | Yazid1965 | just think about cool beans
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08:11:10 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, you're doing fine, you'd get it done easily without Robbie cause you read the manual in advance
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08:11:22 PM | Valpenone | :D
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08:11:29 PM | tic-toc | gonna pump it up
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08:11:37 PM | gpop7 | don't worry robby will fix it if you break it.
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08:11:38 PM | smittysmit_ | Dont forget Hillary, it's not yours
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08:11:50 PM | GoodGuy | lol smittysmit_ .. good point
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08:11:53 PM | razor_62 | will that work on my chevy
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08:12:06 PM | pyrosrock | the hardest but is making sure the fans arnt oposing!
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08:12:12 PM | mathman47 | Have to go. I installed one 2 years ago - love it; keeps the CPU cool; quiet.
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08:12:15 PM | T061 | Hey Hillary if it makes you feel better... Few days ago i had to fix a laptop with a bad HD and the screw was stuck and i tried using my screw driver and i circled the screw :( Then i got my big giant screw driver and i got the stubborn thing out! :D
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08:12:20 PM | smittysmit_ | goodguy ALWAYS, yes
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08:12:25 PM | GoodGuy | If Edison can fail, not bad company to be in
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08:12:27 PM | gpop7 | Hillary you have done a great job.
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08:12:31 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, don't forget to connect the harddrive cable again
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08:12:55 PM | razor_62 | atta girl hill
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08:12:57 PM | smittysmit_ | Hillary you did well.
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08:13:10 PM | razor_62 | COOL BEANS
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08:13:21 PM | gpop7 | Check to times plug in once
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08:13:28 PM | Valpenone | film the rest of the install and put it upp on youtube
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08:13:40 PM | gpop7 | two times
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08:14:17 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you check the temperatures with the old cooler and the new system to see if it actually will cool better?
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08:14:17 PM | razor_62 | will put that thing on my p4
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08:14:19 PM | invincib1emutant | what is the model again
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08:14:22 PM | pttrope | it's easier to remove the motherboard and mount it!
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08:14:44 PM | Yazid1965 | good night all
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08:14:46 PM | chrisreich | buh-bye everyone.
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08:14:46 PM | tic-toc | bye
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08:14:51 PM | kevoh | good bye
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08:14:51 PM | Michaeliowa | nice job Hillary :)
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08:14:57 PM | razor_62 | later dudes
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08:15:04 PM | T061 | Well done Hillary :)
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08:15:09 PM | smittysmit_ | nigjt all. Thanks for the extended show
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08:15:17 PM | T061 | Thanks for a great show :) Good nighT :D
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08:15:17 PM | Valpenone | nite all good show
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08:15:23 PM | invincib1emutant | RobbieF: could you please repeat the hardware model again here
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08:15:37 PM | maxwell6307 | Great show guys thanks
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08:15:44 PM | gpop7 | great job good show. have a good evening and a fantastic week.
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08:15:53 PM | Michaeliowa | bye all have a good night:)
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08:16:00 PM | Hillary | http://cat5.tv/water The Water 2.0 is the model number.
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08:16:11 PM | GoodGuy | Interesting walk thru
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08:16:31 PM | invincib1emutant | how much is it?
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08:16:33 PM | _Jot_ | the one Robbie and Hillary used is the water 2.0 Performer All-in-One LCS
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08:16:43 PM | invincib1emutant | any promotion code buying online?
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08:16:44 PM | _Jot_ | costs 79.99 on that site
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08:17:01 PM | Hillary | no, not at this time. sorry!
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08:17:11 PM | Hillary | It's brand spankin' new and we are the first to review it!
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08:17:17 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief did you see they had a new bigwater version out that will fil in two of the 5.25" bays of the Level 10 GT
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08:17:39 PM | maxwell6307 | lol
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08:18:00 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, screwholes, like it says in the manual. You keep forgetting step 1: Read the manual!
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08:18:37 PM | maxwell6307 | jot what did you do? lol
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08:18:49 PM | invincib1emutant | USD109 on thermaltakeusa site
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08:18:50 PM | GoodGuy | Newegg has a Youtube channel that discusses various hardware,,, usually unboxings
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08:19:02 PM | GoodGuy | a few system builds now and them
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08:19:09 PM | _Jot_ | I'm chewing my nails, all frustrated at Robbie saying why doesn't it work? after forgetting replugging the cables to the drives
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08:19:17 PM | GoodGuy | Not to this level of detail
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08:20:05 PM | invincib1emutant | ops...performer is indeed usb79.99
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08:20:49 PM | GoodGuy | Not too much more than a high-end air cooler
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08:21:09 PM | maxwell6307 | Robbie I've Installed The Zorin OS 6 RC and it works great. Is it nesessary to reinstall the actual release which came out yesterday?
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08:21:34 PM | GoodGuy | The final is out now maxwell6307 .. I installed it in virtualboxc
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08:21:36 PM | GoodGuy | phone
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08:22:17 PM | invincib1emutant | thermaltake should provide pipe extender for us to mount the radiator under aircond (cooler) in my room
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08:22:25 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579, that two bay-model is an older one, check the 760is, it talks about old videocards like the 8800gtx
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08:22:25 PM | invincib1emutant | :P
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08:22:30 PM | GoodGuy | rang once and hung up, so guess they didn't want to talk much
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08:23:30 PM | Hillary | we are here, we just doing some stuff and couldn't answer! sorry!
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08:23:47 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, don't worry, cool beans and all that
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08:23:49 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ I know but they have a newer one because they sell a Level 10 GT with it
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08:24:00 PM | GoodGuy | Hill of Beans lol
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08:24:10 PM | Hillary | Yoooo, I am the coolest of the beans
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08:24:24 PM | GoodGuy | Is Level 10 a case?
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08:24:31 PM | _Jot_ | yep
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08:24:41 PM | GoodGuy | cool
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08:24:44 PM | ajamison5579 | the one on that page is older though here is the newer versio the 760 plus not 760 i
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08:24:45 PM | ajamison5579 | http://thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1444&ID=2058
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08:24:53 PM | GoodGuy | Their cases look nice
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08:25:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief can you mount that radiator in a 5.25" bay ? with some brackets of some kind
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08:26:12 PM | RobbieF | Would be best to mount it on the chassis to blow the air OUT
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08:26:54 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief so on the Level 10 GT removing the back exhaust fan and replacing it with the radiator would work?
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08:27:21 PM | RobbieF | yes
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08:27:32 PM | GoodGuy | All the Internet girls are getting engaged.. Hillary first, Veronica Belmont and Shannon from Hak5
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08:27:35 PM | invincib1emutant | i think it is best not to use the air in the chasis to cool the radiator
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08:27:58 PM | invincib1emutant | it would be more efficient because air in the chasis is normally higher than outside
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08:29:24 PM | invincib1emutant | a better design should be having bracket mounting on the top of the chasis
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08:29:29 PM | invincib1emutant | may be?
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08:29:50 PM | ajamison5579 | So I wonder if there is a site that can compare load tempratures using different CPU coolers vs liquid cooling
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08:30:19 PM | ajamison5579 | trying to justify getting a liquid cooling setup as at 100 percent load i have a consistant temp or around 50-52c
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08:30:42 PM | GoodGuy | Check Frozen CPU.... maybe they did some comparisions in the past
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08:31:09 PM | GoodGuy | also Toms Hardware, HardIOCP, Anandtech.. usual hardware sites
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08:31:27 PM | ajamison5579 | I know that AMD CPU's generally run aroun 50c at full load
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08:31:43 PM | ajamison5579 | but i have an aftermarket cooler which seems to not cool it any better then the stock did
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08:32:33 PM | maxwell6307 | nite all, take care
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08:32:46 PM | GoodGuy | I bought a better cooler for an old AMD T-Bird.. didnt notice much diff other than a lighter wallet
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08:32:52 PM | GoodGuy | Night maxwell6307
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08:33:22 PM | ajamison5579 | at $80 though i would want to see lower temps then 50c at full load
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08:33:30 PM | ajamison5579 | so debating the purchase
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08:33:35 PM | Hillary | good nite everybodyyyy!
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08:33:38 PM | ajamison5579 | night
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08:33:50 PM | GoodGuy | That CPU ran hot anyway and ther case is terrible.... no input airflow... slots in front so small you can barely see them
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08:34:01 PM | GoodGuy | night Hillary
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08:34:09 PM | _Jot_ | night Hillary
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08:34:57 PM | ajamison5579 | see this case has great airflow
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08:35:19 PM | ajamison5579 | its the cooler i think it is loosing perfomance time for it to be replaced
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08:35:25 PM | ajamison5579 | but want to replace it right
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08:35:32 PM | GoodGuy | Might look into lapping the heatsink
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08:35:59 PM | GoodGuy | might drop a few degrees if that makes it worth the effort
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08:37:16 PM | _Jot_ | usually you have to compare specific models, there is no generic comparison between air and water, sometimes air is better at cooling, sometimes water
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08:38:58 PM | ajamison5579 | I have an old Hyper TX cooler with two fans but it was the older model not the newer ones with twice as many copper pipes
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08:39:53 PM | _Jot_ | mostly you won't notice any difference unless you overclock
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08:40:05 PM | RobbieF | hey gang
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08:40:15 PM | _Jot_ | welcome back RobbieF
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08:40:16 PM | GoodGuy | yes?
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08:40:51 PM | RobbieF | Was that alright to step away from format like that tonight?
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08:41:00 PM | ajamison5579 | yeah\
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08:41:17 PM | _Jot_ | it was fine RobbieF, and it was nice that it didn't go perfect cause it made it seem like it wasn't scripted really
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08:41:28 PM | GoodGuy | Fine with me.... Interesting to learn something in any computer related area
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08:41:40 PM | RobbieF | K cool. Yes, Jot, we try really hard to act really well.
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08:41:52 PM | RobbieF | sometimes it's hard because our writers step us out of character
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08:42:31 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, but you both managed fine :)
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08:42:44 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:43:09 PM | GoodGuy | Everything looks easy until you have to do it
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08:43:28 PM | GoodGuy | In the manuals, it always goes smooth
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08:44:14 PM | _Jot_ | yeah :) they have made it easier throughout the years fortunatly too
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08:45:25 PM | GoodGuy | true, but it helps to have someone with experience like RobbieF walking Hillary thuu a few gotchas that happen in r/l
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08:46:10 PM | GoodGuy | Gives the viewer confidence they can get around the quirks with some effort
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08:46:57 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, not that it would happen to them since people would read the manual :)
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08:47:36 PM | _Jot_ | I mean, messing around with stuff without reading a manual isn't bad, but when you go actually install stuff, reading manuals is a must
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08:47:43 PM | GoodGuy | Still easy to forget a part or leave a cable unconnected because you are focused on the new gadget
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08:48:07 PM | RobbieF | Thank you all for hanging out with us tonight! Had fun!
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08:48:11 PM | RobbieF | hope you did too
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08:48:19 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, we did RobbieF :)
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08:48:52 PM | GoodGuy | Paralysis thru Analysis
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08:48:55 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, true, and some thinking helps with that, but it helps to see people mess up and fix things to feel more secure, yes
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08:49:40 PM | RobbieF | time to drill some holes in this chassis to mount the 120mm fans :)
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08:50:38 PM | _Jot_ | staying smart is the challenge since things change so often :)
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08:50:52 PM | GoodGuy | Made you realize none were born knowing this stuff and it took effort to learn it occasionally
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08:53:02 PM | _Jot_ | get the fire-extinguishers ready
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08:53:21 PM | _Jot_ | also we have to make sure to get the canadian police, fire, and ambulance-numbers so we can call them
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08:53:31 PM | RobbieF | anyone want to watch the install?
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08:53:38 PM | _Jot_ | oh, and Robbie needs a new desk after this
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08:53:48 PM | _Jot_ | duhh.. of course we want to watch!
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08:54:46 PM | _Jot_ | yay, we're watching
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08:55:03 PM | RobbieF | got the main feed?
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08:55:23 PM | _Jot_ | yep
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08:55:26 PM | _Jot_ | and the BSP
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08:55:51 PM | _Jot_ | seems now we're going to get the real interesting things. How to handle a stubborn case
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08:57:18 PM | GoodGuy | I love the irony.. I have a MS internet keyboard... It actually works better on Linux than it does on XP
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08:57:53 PM | GoodGuy | The MS driver seems to take awhile to process the volume keys
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08:58:21 PM | GoodGuy | Maybe it is time to reload XP, but I'm too lazy
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08:58:30 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you read the manual on how to dissect the pen? and the one about putting it back together again?
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08:58:59 PM | GoodGuy | Use a scratch awl if you have one
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08:59:00 PM | _Jot_ | try the pen on paper, usually it takes a while for them to get started
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08:59:17 PM | jonathon | robbief: take a piece of paper and make a template
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08:59:33 PM | GoodGuy | good idea jonathon
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08:59:44 PM | jonathon | don't crack the fan
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09:00:22 PM | _Jot_ | if only I had one of those magicjacks so I could call barrie's ambulance-service as soon as Robbie goes bash his fingers
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09:02:23 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary: Robbie? .... Yes Hillary? .... Why does it say Hi in my computer?
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09:04:40 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you need to hold the hammer at the end of it, it'll hit harder
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09:05:01 PM | _Jot_ | Oops, sorry, I missed
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09:05:23 PM | _Jot_ | next time I'll aim for your fingers directly, I'll be sure to miss those and hit the thing instead
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09:05:24 PM | RobbieF | will have to get me a good drill bit to get through this
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09:05:46 PM | jonathon | drill bit would be best, a nail might work
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09:06:08 PM | _Jot_ | I know a lot of people use a dremel, but I don't know what that is or why it would work better
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09:06:13 PM | RobbieF | well, I've got some decent indents now for drilling, so I'll punch those through tomorrow and finish the job
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09:06:26 PM | RobbieF | I'd use a dremel too if I had one; that'd work a treat
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09:06:35 PM | RobbieF | gotta run gang; see you in the morning.
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09:06:36 PM | GoodGuy | a dremel is a handheld small hobbiest drill etc
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09:06:42 PM | GoodGuy | I have a couple
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09:06:43 PM | _Jot_ | have a good night RobbieF
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09:06:55 PM | RobbieF | you too
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09:07:02 PM | jonathon | gn all
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09:07:04 PM | RobbieF | I should get one GoodGuy, for sure
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09:07:06 PM | RobbieF | night gang
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09:07:10 PM | GoodGuy | They also have a ton of other bits for cutting, polishing etc
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09:07:34 PM | GoodGuy | high speed does the work
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09:07:56 PM | GoodGuy | Not meant for heavy duty jobs though
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09:08:35 PM | GoodGuy | Rockwell makes ones for tougher jobs
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09:09:23 PM | GoodGuy | I saw one at a garage sale a couple years ago, but cant recall the name... it is pretty popular
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09:09:38 PM | GoodGuy | think its Rockwell
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09:10:21 PM | _Jot_ | I can see how it would be useful, at the same time, I don't see myself using one :)
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09:12:25 PM | GoodGuy | I got one when my father passed and bought one when I used to race slot cars
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09:13:02 PM | GoodGuy | Dads model had a flex-shaft.. never used it
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09:13:31 PM | GoodGuy | The other I used a couple times working on slot cars many moons ago
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09:14:27 PM | GoodGuy | I read some case modders use them to clean up openings
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09:14:40 PM | _Jot_ | yeah or to make mounting-holes :P
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09:15:27 PM | GoodGuy | I would probably use a more powerful drill going thru hard metals
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09:15:44 PM | GoodGuy | But might be over cautious
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09:16:32 PM | GoodGuy | Is he going to tap the holes for fan screws?
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09:17:12 PM | _Jot_ | not sure how he plans on doing it, I hope he'll show us
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09:17:21 PM | GoodGuy | last thing you would want is a fan mounting to have some play so the vibration drives you nuts
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09:17:49 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, the noise is annoying... but, then you need something Robbie has no idea about... washers :)
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09:17:58 PM | GoodGuy | lol
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09:18:23 PM | GoodGuy | Still be wise to make a hole that fits snuggly
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09:19:34 PM | GoodGuy | There are charts telling you what size drill bit to use for a screw hole
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09:19:55 PM | _Jot_ | let's hope Robbie will read that :)
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09:20:29 PM | GoodGuy | He might be using the self tapping screws.. some case fans use those iirc
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09:22:43 PM | _Jot_ | these days many cases are fortunatly prepared for watercooling and have holes for the radiators etc
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09:23:23 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF is trying to install a 120mm case fan over a precut area with holes
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09:23:43 PM | GoodGuy | Looks like it didn't have predrilled mounting screw holes
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09:23:54 PM | GoodGuy | Or he is blind lol
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09:24:02 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, case is made to vent from the cpu-cooler
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09:24:56 PM | _Jot_ | I do wonder if it came with the materials for attaching stuff like this, since the bigger 2-bay cooler also wasn't attached like that
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