| 06:58:17 PM | semi-hex | What is the bug garbee found?
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| 06:58:28 PM | GWG | RobbieF: What language did they make you take in school? French perhaps?
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| 06:58:56 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, That v3 is *way* to fast to be a real website.
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| 06:59:20 PM | _Jot_ | less than 1 minute!
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| 07:00:42 PM | GWG | Hi, ajamison5579
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| 07:00:48 PM | ajamison5579 | hi
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| 07:00:50 PM | _Jot_ | happy birthday RobbieF and Hillary
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| 07:01:00 PM | Yazid1965 | Happy Birthday!!
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| 07:01:05 PM | semi-hex | Is there a cake?
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| 07:01:25 PM | Garbee | hehe
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| 07:01:26 PM | _Jot_ | sure, I have cake! Note to self: Buy cake in the morning
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| 07:02:11 PM | Yazid1965 | Eric was wearing a Birthday Girl? LOL
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| 07:02:17 PM | _Jot_ | guys, how can we tell them apart now?
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| 07:02:26 PM | Valpenone | :D
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| 07:02:40 PM | _Jot_ | Yay! Jot wins!
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| 07:02:52 PM | Garbee | It is just a sparkler Robbie. No need to be alarmed.
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| 07:03:08 PM | Garbee | You also can't light 2 at once right. You did it completely wrong.
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| 07:03:13 PM | semi-hex | Don't do this at home. :D
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| 07:03:21 PM | Garbee | I light 8 at once sometimes. :D
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| 07:03:35 PM | semi-hex | What does Hillary win?
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| 07:03:46 PM | _Jot_ | anything she wants, semi-hex
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| 07:03:50 PM | ajamison5579 | what is a password?
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| 07:03:52 PM | Garbee | Lastpass
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| 07:04:02 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579: your password is: 1234
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| 07:04:16 PM | ajamison5579 | no that is the password an idiot puts on his luggage
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| 07:04:21 PM | Garbee | I think you are more worried about malicious people getting your passwords than creepers.
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| 07:04:23 PM | semi-hex | It's not password ?
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| 07:04:36 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, I need to change my luggage lock then.
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| 07:04:51 PM | ajamison5579 | Spaceballs for the win
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| 07:05:02 PM | Yazid1965 | Sweet
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| 07:05:24 PM | ajamison5579 | Way to go Yahoo
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| 07:05:49 PM | semi-hex | Just don't set your lastpass password as your websites api key.
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| 07:06:13 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, They are going to burn through her like they have done the last 8 CEO's. Still a great pull though to get her away from Google.
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| 07:06:18 PM | ajamison5579 | According to PC World anyone who uses kickstarter for gadgets or other hardware devices is basicaly stealing your money stupid PC Gamer
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| 07:06:19 PM | Yazid1965 | Steam is confirmed on Ubuntu http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/
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| 07:06:27 PM | ajamison5579 | I mean world
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| 07:07:13 PM | ajamison5579 | Sulfur rocks
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| 07:07:20 PM | ajamison5579 | litteraly its made from rocks
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| 07:07:30 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:07:37 PM | _Jot_ | there's already plenty of open source video game systems, like http://nootropicdesign.com/hackvision/index.html or http://www.ladyada.net/make/fuzebox/
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| 07:08:22 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, None with the pull of Steam for major content creators.
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| 07:09:04 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, true, but also not as expensive
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| 07:10:13 PM | Garbee | quick poll: White for an ecommerce store or a black/grey mix? I am going black/grey with what I'm building so peoples eyes don't get killed looking at it.
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| 07:10:20 PM | Yazid1965 | The Humble Indie Bundle also runs in Steam. This is a great start for Linux gaming. IMO
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| 07:10:56 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee have you tried office 2013 consumer prev yet?
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| 07:11:06 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, generally people don't trust black stores because it relates to night and bad things and such in their mind
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| 07:11:20 PM | _Jot_ | and I mean black as background colour of course
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| 07:11:30 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, I am in a love/hate relationship with Office 2013 so far.
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| 07:11:38 PM | Garbee | But yes, I am testing it on both of my Win 8 systems.
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| 07:11:52 PM | ajamison5579 | I was currious to see how it differs othere then look from 2010
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| 07:11:59 PM | semi-hex | There is network virtualization software.
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| 07:12:19 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, That is my issue. I like the new themes they have, but it is stuck being a white background. ugh.
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| 07:12:37 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, Yea, GSN3 if I recall the name correctly. Not great though.
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| 07:12:51 PM | ajamison5579 | yeah I figured the design refresh was to coicide with Metro
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| 07:13:14 PM | Garbee | If you are a Cisco Academy student or Alumni then you can get their packages of PacketTracer for Linux as well. PT is *very* nice software.
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| 07:13:19 PM | semi-hex | Yes I tghink that is the name GSN3
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| 07:13:28 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, It is. It all blends into their new UI for the desktop.
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| 07:13:35 PM | Garbee | Making it *so* ugly people won't want to use it.
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| 07:13:50 PM | Garbee | GSN3 requires you have your own router ROM images.
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| 07:13:53 PM | Garbee | Not a good thing.
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| 07:15:08 PM | ajamison5579 | OMG Garbee you do not like the theme of Office 2013? I thought you would love it being so close to Metro
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| 07:15:25 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, I don't like forcing White so much. it hurts my eyes.
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| 07:15:35 PM | Garbee | I love the looks they have, but only having the white color for the UI is horrid.
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| 07:15:36 PM | semi-hex | GNS3 is a graphical network simulator that allows simulation of complex networks.
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| 07:15:45 PM | Ron_Smith | @Robbie i'm a novice
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| 07:15:53 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee makes since maybe if they offer a color changer
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| 07:15:54 PM | semi-hex | http://www.gns3.net/
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| 07:16:53 PM | semi-hex | If you can telnet into your router you can, sometimes, ftp a copy of the image
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| 07:17:14 PM | ajamison5579 | OMG i remember the battles with Wireless drivers I thought most of those were ironed out
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| 07:17:42 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, But a normal person won't know how to do that.
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| 07:17:56 PM | Garbee | Cisco's PacketTracer has images built in to use, and you can copy your own on if you are good enough.
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| 07:17:56 PM | semi-hex | Look for a compatibility list at aircrack.
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| 07:18:21 PM | Garbee | Update the *kernel*. Geeze, Debians Kernel is *very* out of date now unless you are on testing or sid.
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| 07:18:55 PM | semi-hex | http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatible_cards
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| 07:19:07 PM | ajamison5579 | Maybe try an RPM based distro not sure if your issues will be better worse or be the smae but might be worth a try
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| 07:19:46 PM | semi-hex | Learn which chip is in your card.
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| 07:20:18 PM | U-Al | aren't there compatability lists for linux
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| 07:20:30 PM | semi-hex | Look above
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| 07:20:35 PM | ajamison5579 | U-AL yes but they can not possibly encompass everything
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| 07:20:52 PM | Garbee | It also varys on Distro as well.
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| 07:20:54 PM | DennisKelley | Hello All! I made it!
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| 07:20:55 PM | Garbee | varies*
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| 07:21:06 PM | DennisKelley | Hello _Jot_
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| 07:21:36 PM | _Jot_ | hi DennisKelley
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| 07:21:40 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief is getting chocked up talk amonst yourselves
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| 07:21:44 PM | _Jot_ | It is very cold here, coldest summer of some time
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| 07:21:50 PM | Garbee | We still don't talk about it.
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| 07:21:50 PM | ajamison5579 | choked
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| 07:21:51 PM | DennisKelley | Weather report?
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| 07:21:51 PM | Yazid1965 | 96F in Clifton New Jersey LOL
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| 07:21:53 PM | DennisKelley | HOT!!!
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| 07:23:59 PM | ajamison5579 | that software seems to be the hot potato of the digital word changes hands almost as much as VirtualBox
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| 07:24:58 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, What does?
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| 07:25:03 PM | ajamison5579 | Zimbra
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| 07:25:22 PM | Garbee | It hasn't changed hands that much.
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| 07:25:26 PM | Garbee | Nor has Vbox.
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| 07:26:29 PM | Garbee | I think someone needs to fix Chromes css engine.
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| 07:26:38 PM | ajamison5579 | Vbox was bought by SUn, sun was bought by Oracle
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| 07:26:47 PM | ajamison5579 | it has changed hands 3 times in its existance
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| 07:26:48 PM | Garbee | I should not need to make my table rows display as a block in order for them to use a box shadow.
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| 07:26:48 PM | _Jot_ | wow, mistake with 140 and 170? that is the first time I hear somebody make a nummerical numpad-typing-error while talking
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| 07:26:53 PM | Garbee | No other browser requires that.
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| 07:26:53 PM | DennisKelley | New website is awesome!
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| 07:27:03 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, 3 is not that much.
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| 07:27:18 PM | Garbee | And that is changing 2 hands.
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| 07:27:22 PM | Yazid1965 | Was that the same cat?
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| 07:27:47 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbe i thought it started as a independant project pre-sun aquisition
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| 07:27:55 PM | DennisKelley | What about us watching you , watching you! Crazy!
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| 07:28:03 PM | semi-hex | does it have keywords of what you talk about on those episodes?
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| 07:28:24 PM | DennisKelley | I see me!
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| 07:28:50 PM | DennisKelley | Grand Blanc, Mi!
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| 07:29:02 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, Innotek created it. So it is 3 company changes.
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| 07:29:03 PM | semi-hex | You go fishing on that lake?
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| 07:29:06 PM | Garbee | Still not that much though.
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| 07:29:21 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, What have keywords?
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| 07:29:30 PM | Garbee | The Matrix has the description only.
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| 07:29:32 PM | semi-hex | episode matrix
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| 07:29:33 PM | ajamison5579 | Ha I stumped the Garbee I need a teashirt
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| 07:29:41 PM | ajamison5579 | teeshirt
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| 07:29:56 PM | _Jot_ | if you dunk a teeshirt in hot water it turns into a teashirt automaticly
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| 07:30:15 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, It was not stumping. I was just wondering how VBox got to Sun. I didn't know if it was a company before or just an OS project they picked up.
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| 07:30:38 PM | ajamison5579 | Garbee I am just poking fun at you
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| 07:30:45 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you hide the new studio behind that brick wall?
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| 07:31:18 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ u know Robbie he can lay an entire brick wall in seconds and move it with one hand :)
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| 07:31:48 PM | semi-hex | RobbieF is a bricklayer?
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| 07:31:54 PM | ajamison5579 | no its a joke
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| 07:32:00 PM | ajamison5579 | that is not a real brick wall behind him
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| 07:32:05 PM | ajamison5579 | its a fasad
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| 07:32:10 PM | ajamison5579 | or how ever you spell iot
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| 07:32:11 PM | ajamison5579 | it
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| 07:32:18 PM | semi-hex | faux?
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| 07:32:26 PM | DennisKelley | RobbieF is so awesome can move walls!
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| 07:32:39 PM | ajamison5579 | its cardboard or something
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| 07:32:48 PM | ajamison5579 | just resembles bricks
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| 07:32:53 PM | Garbee | meh, not that much money.
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| 07:32:53 PM | semi-hex | a fasade is what a real brick wall is.
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| 07:32:59 PM | semi-hex | facade
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| 07:33:03 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, Only if you are the roadrunner.
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| 07:33:13 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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| 07:34:12 PM | ajamison5579 | Yahoo is so last millenium
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| 07:34:35 PM | Garbee | ajamison5579, At least it looks like they are getting a good CEO now.
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| 07:34:46 PM | ajamison5579 | bout time
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| 07:35:06 PM | semi-hex | Good thing RobbieF isn't a bricklayer, he didn't use line blocks to keep the courses level.
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| 07:36:22 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief according to PC World it sets them in the realm of fraud if you believe the writer of said article
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| 07:36:31 PM | DennisKelley | Is it Really RobbieF Hillary birthday?
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| 07:36:52 PM | semi-hex | Yes and there is cake after the show.
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| 07:36:53 PM | Garbee | Robbie yes, Hillary on Thursday.
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| 07:36:57 PM | Hillary | oui
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| 07:37:06 PM | Garbee | I don't lie in the topic.
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| 07:37:10 PM | DennisKelley | Happy Birthday Hillary!
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| 07:37:11 PM | Garbee | Unless perhaps on April Fools.
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| 07:37:18 PM | semi-hex | :D
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| 07:37:21 PM | DennisKelley | Happy Birthday RobbieF!
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| 07:37:52 PM | JimClarke_ | Hi Rob
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| 07:39:37 PM | _Jot_ | at least Hillary can sign so even with the horn she can still talk and be understood
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| 07:39:43 PM | Garbee | So much drama lately.
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| 07:39:44 PM | DennisKelley | Welcome JimClarke_
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| 07:39:47 PM | semi-hex | Coupons? w00t.
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| 07:39:59 PM | Garbee | JimClarke_, Please don't call Robbie by the name of Rob.
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| 07:40:25 PM | DennisKelley | having a cigar!
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| 07:40:33 PM | JimClarke_ | sorry about that
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| 07:40:45 PM | semi-hex | Nice tan.
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| 07:40:53 PM | ajamison5579 | I do not smoke but sometimes if there is a Cuban Cigar avalible I am all ove it
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| 07:40:56 PM | ajamison5579 | over it
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| 07:41:16 PM | ajamison5579 | AC/DC
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| 07:42:07 PM | DennisKelley | We have way too many passwords!
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| 07:42:21 PM | Garbee | I have lots of passwords. Most are haystacked now.
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| 07:42:50 PM | ajamison5579 | what about pepper
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| 07:42:53 PM | Garbee | Our system does a SHA-1 hash and then salts.
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| 07:43:00 PM | DennisKelley | We like salt on our Passwords!
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| 07:43:02 PM | Garbee | I wish it also bcrypted.
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| 07:43:05 PM | DennisKelley | Thanks RobbieF
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| 07:43:10 PM | semi-hex | Why your password policy sucks.
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| 07:43:15 PM | semi-hex | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRtWQZSerCE
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| 07:43:25 PM | Garbee | ^^ Our system as in the one I am using for my dads site. I don't know the hashing sum Robbie uses.
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| 07:43:46 PM | U-Al | no ip address
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| 07:43:47 PM | DennisKelley | Grand Blanc!
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| 07:44:24 PM | semi-hex | What is the salt?
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| 07:44:31 PM | semi-hex | username?
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| 07:44:38 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, A secret key.
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| 07:44:59 PM | Garbee | Using the username would be bad, since if they got the DB they could unsalt.
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| 07:45:08 PM | Garbee | Salting is done by a key set by the sys admin.
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| 07:45:10 PM | ajamison5579 | Salt is a seasoning commonly used in cooking
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| 07:45:43 PM | Garbee | Hopefully it is a strong password. Like mine is... Lets just say very large. So desalting our data would take quite a while.
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| 07:46:14 PM | semi-hex | Not that difficult to crack with a cluster gpu cracker.
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| 07:46:26 PM | Garbee | semi-hex, hahah. No, it is hard even with that.
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| 07:46:28 PM | U-Al | should you let your browser store your passwords?
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| 07:46:31 PM | semi-hex | oclhashcat
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| 07:46:38 PM | Garbee | U-Al, Depends on browser and their security.
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| 07:46:57 PM | ajamison5579 | the only way your data will ever truely be safe is to never put it on the computer in the first place memorize it
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| 07:46:59 PM | Garbee | FF and Chrome, I'd say you *can*, but it is best to use a third party tool. I personally use lastpass.
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| 07:47:04 PM | ajamison5579 | and then destroy the hard files
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| 07:47:08 PM | U-Al | ff, ie, chrome etc
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| 07:47:35 PM | Garbee | U-Al, I do not know of IE's security on user passwords. So I'd say be cautious using their manager. FF I know had an issue but I believe it was fixed.
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| 07:47:56 PM | ajamison5579 | I use KeepassX all the time excellent software
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| 07:49:29 PM | semi-hex | How do you export and inport with keypassx
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| 07:49:37 PM | semi-hex | import
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| 07:50:08 PM | semi-hex | incase of reinstall OS.
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| 07:50:53 PM | Garbee | It has a featuer for it.
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| 07:50:55 PM | Garbee | feature*
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| 07:51:04 PM | Garbee | Or I believe you could just copy the DB file over.
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| 07:51:13 PM | Garbee | Yea, it is just a file.
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| 07:51:19 PM | Garbee | So you copy that and use it on any system.
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| 07:51:19 PM | ajamison5579 | your db file is independant of the software
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| 07:51:30 PM | maxwell6307 | couldn't you just use pa passwoe protecrted folder?
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| 07:51:52 PM | maxwell6307 | password protected
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| 07:51:54 PM | Garbee | maxwell6307, Not as secure.
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| 07:52:04 PM | maxwell6307 | ah
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| 07:52:10 PM | maxwell6307 | thnx
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| 07:52:19 PM | Garbee | Well, if it is done by Truecrypt then it is. Otherwise, not.
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| 07:52:29 PM | ajamison5579 | and if you loose the data on your machine you loose all the passwords
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| 07:52:43 PM | ajamison5579 | if using a protected folder
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| 07:52:43 PM | maxwell6307 | thanx garbee
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| 07:54:31 PM | Garbee | Wow, Robbie talks about passwords here and in another room we complain about some softwares way of storing users passwords and handling cookies with them... Odd symmetry here.
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| 07:54:33 PM | DennisKelley | RobbieF you said that works on windows also?
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| 07:54:41 PM | Garbee | DennisKelley, Yes, it is cross-platform.
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| 07:54:45 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief it times the password if you copy it to the clipboard it expunges it from the clip board in 30 seconds or so
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| 07:54:47 PM | DennisKelley | sweet
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| 07:54:50 PM | Garbee | Honestly, I recommend Lastpass over KeepassX.
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| 07:55:00 PM | Garbee | It is cloud-based and built directly into browsers.
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| 07:55:05 PM | Garbee | Plugins for all main browsers.
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| 07:55:21 PM | _Jot_ | http://keepass.info/ for the website
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| 07:55:37 PM | semi-hex | 6 minutes
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| 07:56:05 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, we don't have to see pictures of you in the hottub
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| 07:56:22 PM | DennisKelley | unvoxing!!!
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| 07:56:27 PM | DennisKelley | unboxing!!!
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| 07:56:41 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, That was **NOT** a proper unboxing.
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| 07:56:57 PM | DennisKelley | it did come out of a box!!
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| 07:57:15 PM | Garbee | DennisKelley, yea, but stilll not a proper unboxing.
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| 07:57:26 PM | DennisKelley | what does it cost?
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| 07:57:36 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, this, or the horn?
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| 07:57:46 PM | DennisKelley | it was an unsleeving
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| 07:57:47 PM | Garbee | DennisKelley, He will get to that.
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| 07:58:07 PM | DennisKelley | how long does the battery last?
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| 07:58:54 PM | DennisKelley | a remote? wow!
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| 07:59:28 PM | _Jot_ | It even has a handle so if I want to steal it, all I have to do is pick it up and walk away
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| 07:59:42 PM | DennisKelley | So now that the Power is great in the Studio, they are moving it?
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| 07:59:55 PM | Valpenone | _Jot_: :D
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| 07:59:57 PM | _Jot_ | DennisKelley, there wasn't enough room anymore for the Power and them
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| 08:00:09 PM | Yazid1965 | Jot wins LOL
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| 08:00:15 PM | DennisKelley | _Jot_ can not win!
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| 08:00:20 PM | _Jot_ | Nope, Jot didn't win
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| 08:00:25 PM | _Jot_ | something went wrong, i demand a recount!
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| 08:00:32 PM | Valpenone | lol
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| 08:00:34 PM | Garbee | Looks good.
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| 08:00:37 PM | DennisKelley | _Jot_ its rigged
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| 08:00:59 PM | DennisKelley | Congrats to the winner!
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| 08:01:05 PM | Garbee | Does anyone get this postcard fever Robbie has?
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| 08:01:06 PM | Yazid1965 | Congrats
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| 08:01:21 PM | Valpenone | Nite all
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| 08:01:25 PM | Yazid1965 | Good Night!! Happy Birthday!!
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| 08:01:34 PM | invinciblemutant | who is the winner
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| 08:01:36 PM | Garbee | Back to code.
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| 08:01:44 PM | JimClarke_ | Great show Robbief
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| 08:01:47 PM | invinciblemutant | just popped in
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| 08:01:49 PM | gpop7 | have a great birthday robbie and hillary.
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| 08:01:50 PM | Hillary | wooooeyy! talk ya later, ya'll!
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| 08:01:54 PM | _Jot_ | somebody named Dave or David I think
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| 08:01:54 PM | invinciblemutant | missed the show
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| 08:02:00 PM | _Jot_ | have a great Birthday RobbieF and Hillary
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| 08:03:02 PM | gpop7 | goodnight all. keep cool.
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| 08:04:09 PM | semi-hex | They didn't show the cake. ;(
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| 08:04:33 PM | Garbee | After show exodus.
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| 08:05:10 PM | _Jot_ | unfortunatly the BSP is stuck for me so I can't even see if they secretly kept it under the table
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| 08:07:47 PM | semi-hex | The Happy Birthday copyright isn't valid, Robbie should challenge it.
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| 08:09:40 PM | semi-hex | Astalavista.
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| 08:09:57 PM | semi-hex | exit
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| 08:10:02 PM | semi-hex | leave
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| 08:18:58 PM | invinciblemutant | gonna watch the catch up
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| 08:18:59 PM | invinciblemutant | cya
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| 08:19:02 PM | invinciblemutant | bye
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| 08:40:18 PM | Garbee | See you tomorrow RobbieF.
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| 08:40:24 PM | Garbee | Have a goodnight.
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| 08:40:28 PM | RobbieF | Night Barbee
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| 08:40:30 PM | RobbieF | You too
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| 08:40:35 PM | RobbieF | gosh
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| 08:40:37 PM | RobbieF | GARbee
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| 08:40:38 PM | RobbieF | sorry
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| 08:40:39 PM | RobbieF | lol
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| 08:40:41 PM | RobbieF | best typo EVER
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| 08:40:48 PM | Garbee | haha
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| 08:41:08 PM | Garbee | No, best typo ever is forgetting the / when trying to authenticate and doing it in an actual room.
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| 08:41:40 PM | RobbieF | :) hehe
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| 08:41:41 PM | RobbieF | whoops
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| 08:41:53 PM | RobbieF | identify mysuperPassword123
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| 08:43:57 PM | GWG | How was the show?
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