| 06:58:04 PM | OldGuyJim | Good afternoon...evening..
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| 06:58:08 PM | chrisreich | both audio tests were successes
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| 06:58:49 PM | _Jot_ | 3, 7, 90, 8 1/4 ?
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| 07:00:08 PM | _Jot_ | thanks for doing the camera so much RobbieF, now we're all dizzy
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| 07:01:22 PM | Garbee | I *just* placed my pizza order.
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| 07:01:39 PM | Garbee | Robbie, When do you invite me to the new crib?
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| 07:01:40 PM | tic-toc | Studio Canada
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| 07:03:19 PM | _Jot_ | chris reaching for his drink?
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| 07:03:22 PM | Garbee | EricKidd, Is right on that one.
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| 07:03:23 PM | chrisreich | DRINK!
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| 07:04:00 PM | Garbee | EricKidd, So leave and let me step in.
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| 07:04:15 PM | _Jot_ | there is a problem with episode 256... it doesn't fit in a byte
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| 07:04:42 PM | Garbee | Should not be used live at least for myself.
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| 07:05:05 PM | Garbee | I like to know exactly how things are configured, and the only way to do that is to actually do setup manually for things.
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| 07:05:30 PM | dtapia63 | Hello
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| 07:05:31 PM | Garbee | EricKidd, HAM call.
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| 07:05:34 PM | Garbee | callsign*
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| 07:05:49 PM | agamotto | Hallo, all
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| 07:05:54 PM | _Jot_ | hi agamotto
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| 07:05:56 PM | Garbee | Hey agamotto.
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| 07:06:03 PM | _Jot_ | Guests, if you want a name, you can type /nick newnickname
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| 07:06:08 PM | _Jot_ | where newnickname is your new name
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| 07:06:16 PM | lord_of_sporks | thanks robbie
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| 07:06:24 PM | Garbee | http://wiki.category5.tv/
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| 07:06:27 PM | Garbee | ^^Shameless plug.
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| 07:06:54 PM | U-Al | Hello
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| 07:06:58 PM | todd_ | howdy
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| 07:07:13 PM | Garbee | 6 minutes in, still calling out names.
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| 07:07:16 PM | Yazid1965 | Ya -zid ;)
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| 07:07:19 PM | agamotto | I have to find a new way home from work tomorrow... the president is visiting
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| 07:07:21 PM | Guest_Harry | Finally from work,, isn't this an awesome world
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| 07:07:22 PM | Guest_Harry | ?
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| 07:07:33 PM | _Jot_ | work? what is this strange word?
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| 07:07:42 PM | Garbee | Robbie, I could have used my phone for Internet, but decided to clean instead.
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| 07:07:42 PM | Guest_Harry | from work
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| 07:07:49 PM | Guest73763 | Robbie I need help Ubuntu 12.4 hosed my setup and I had to install it fresh, My problem is I am having trouble getting fstab to load my raid and another drive on startup. It was working before 12.4 hosed it.. can you help? I can see the drives seperately but not as a raid nautalus has no trouble acessing the raid correctly, but fstab is being difficult
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| 07:07:54 PM | U-Al | U-Al=Uncle Al
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| 07:07:54 PM | chrisreich | agamotto, you mean *acting* president. I'll shut up now.
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| 07:09:04 PM | agamotto | I just know that another politician is disrupting my ability to travel while we have construction on most of our major routes... grrrr
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| 07:09:07 PM | Guest_Harry | we'll get drunk
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| 07:09:57 PM | Guest73763 | right hardware raid
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| 07:10:06 PM | agamotto | fstab is like most exotic pets, it tends to bite the owner eventually ;)
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| 07:10:27 PM | robgor | Hi Robbif and erickidd
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| 07:10:30 PM | robgor | hey all
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| 07:10:39 PM | chrisreich | are you *booting* from the RAID array?
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| 07:10:56 PM | agamotto | Other than that little bit of annoyance, life is pretty good... especially now that I have pretty much quit watching tv.
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| 07:11:08 PM | tic-toc | Timmy's ?
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| 07:11:48 PM | U-Al | thanks lol
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| 07:12:10 PM | agamotto | RobbieF, How about you and Eric visit down here, where I can take you to vodka and bourbon distilleries...
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| 07:12:12 PM | robgor | RobbieF and Erickidd that pic of my carbbq I sent a few weeks ago was drinkinking wild turkey and cola with the bbq LOL
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| 07:12:13 PM | Garbee | ...I wonder if this would be good to run.. (Joking, don't actually do it.)
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| 07:12:23 PM | RobbieF | um
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| 07:12:39 PM | chrisreich | agamotto, are you in Kentucky?
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| 07:12:41 PM | Garbee | Correction... Don't *EVER* run that php line.
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| 07:12:42 PM | Guest73763 | no not booting from the raid
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| 07:12:53 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee! That's such a bad thing to say, you should kick yourself
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| 07:13:00 PM | agamotto | RobbieF, We also have plenty of vinyards, if those don't work for you :)
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| 07:13:12 PM | Garbee | Jot, I don't think Freenode would let me do that. Now isn't the time to test though.
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| 07:13:19 PM | agamotto | chrisreich, Nope, right on the river in Moline
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| 07:13:36 PM | lord_of_sporks | Robbie I was wandering you use green screen on occasion i was wanting to do some chroma key effects myself do i have to buy a special green screen or would a solid green sheet work or does it even have to be green do other colors work I was just wanting to know because i wanted to get into the chroma key effects
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| 07:14:10 PM | chrisreich | Moline. Moline. Searching. Illinois?
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| 07:14:31 PM | agamotto | Correct. Find Chicago, go about 180 due west
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| 07:15:00 PM | chrisreich | You still have to drive to Kentucky to find bourbon distilleries then, no?
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| 07:15:21 PM | tic-toc | Moline , Home of John Deere
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| 07:15:26 PM | agamotto | Nope, we now have vodka and bourbon distilleries within 20mi of us.
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| 07:15:48 PM | Garbee | EricKidd, Don't put that stapler to your ear and then press... I did that once. Won't ever get an ear peircing now.
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| 07:15:49 PM | agamotto | Along with vinyards, micro-brews, who knows what else?
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| 07:15:52 PM | todd_ | RobbieF: What is your backup strategy? Where do you backup, how often, and how?
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| 07:16:12 PM | chrisreich | I've always understood that to be called bourbon the whisky *must* be made in Kentucky. By law.
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| 07:16:18 PM | agamotto | todd_, go look at last week's episode - fully covered there
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| 07:16:20 PM | robgor | can anyone suggest a video card for a CAD system that doesnt cost thousands of dollars?
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| 07:16:32 PM | agamotto | chrisreich, tradition, but not law
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| 07:16:45 PM | chrisreich | then I've been mislead.
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| 07:16:45 PM | todd_ | agamotto: ok, thanks. RobbieF no need to answer
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| 07:16:51 PM | _Jot_ | lord_of_sporks, did you check wikipedia? ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_key )
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| 07:17:25 PM | chrisreich | robgor - NVIDIA Quadro cards start at about $175.
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| 07:17:48 PM | Guest_Harry | guys i was kicked off from work , gotta go home but will still get your feed trhu my Andoird Note phone,, thanks guys
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| 07:17:48 PM | chrisreich | robgor - for the latest generation, that is.
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| 07:17:50 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, You don't have the beard to do Eric's voice.
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| 07:17:52 PM | Guest_Harry | bye
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| 07:18:06 PM | tic-toc | Eric sounds like Mickey Redmond
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| 07:18:07 PM | todd_ | RobbieF: do you know of any software that can transcribe an audio podcast into text?
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| 07:18:55 PM | Garbee | XAMMP I do not recommend.
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| 07:19:07 PM | chrisreich | Can anyone give me the address for post cards to RobbieF? I wasn't ready to write it down when they announced it earlier.
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| 07:19:11 PM | Garbee | WAMP if you are using Windows, but even then go with a VM and to a true LAMP stack if possible.
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| 07:20:05 PM | Garbee | http://wiki.category5.tv/tutorials:web_development:desktop_web_development_in_linux
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| 07:20:26 PM | Garbee | ^^ Some parts incomplete.
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| 07:20:34 PM | Garbee | Or out of date like the XAMMP.
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| 07:20:37 PM | agamotto | You could always just throw your hands up in the air and forget about it... chuckle;
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| 07:21:09 PM | _Jot_ | chrisreich, Category5 Technology TV P.O. Box 29009. Barrie, Ontario Canada L4N 7W7
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| 07:21:24 PM | chrisreich | thank you _Jot_
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| 07:21:44 PM | Garbee | http://www.category5.tv/episodes/169.php
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| 07:21:47 PM | _Jot_ | it's on about every page on the category5 website :)
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| 07:22:19 PM | Garbee | Turnkey also has a GUI to control parts.
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| 07:22:35 PM | Garbee | But, do know that those admin panels are an extra security risk!
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| 07:23:41 PM | agamotto | I would venture to say that someone looking for a turnkey solution isn't likely to know/care that much about security..
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| 07:24:31 PM | Garbee | agamotto, It should still be pointed out if someone was to use one in a live setup.
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| 07:24:48 PM | agamotto | agreed
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| 07:24:54 PM | Garbee | Then again anyone can put webmin on their VPS and open a hole there too without knowing it.
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| 07:26:19 PM | agamotto | Anyone here have experience with ActionTec gateway/routers?
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| 07:26:33 PM | Garbee | agamotto, Never even heard of that company.
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| 07:28:20 PM | agamotto | AT&T wants us to upgrade to one, as they no longer support the 2wire box we have had for ~4 years.
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| 07:28:21 PM | Garbee | Why would they change the default TTY?
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| 07:28:26 PM | tic-toc | I have not luck with mint
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| 07:28:45 PM | Garbee | mount -a
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| 07:29:09 PM | Garbee | Get a liveCD and go in and edit the file again.
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| 07:30:01 PM | OldGuyJim | So Linuxmint 13 - Cinnamon is working well. I've installed extra graphics and video software without a hitch.
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| 07:30:19 PM | agamotto | OldGuyJim That is encouraging
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| 07:31:00 PM | chrisreich | teletype (I'm old)
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| 07:31:02 PM | agamotto | TeleText something
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| 07:31:21 PM | Garbee | Those are for phones not lInux.
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| 07:31:27 PM | tic-toc | Morris code
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| 07:31:27 PM | napa__polarbear | how 2 install grub on a sys
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| 07:31:35 PM | chrisreich | I REMEMBER using Teletypes with computers.
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| 07:31:37 PM | agamotto | Goes back to those old terminals used in Battlestar Galactica... the old series
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| 07:31:47 PM | todd_ | teletypewriter
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| 07:32:02 PM | chrisreich | I'm so old I remember when "Old Spice" was just "Spice"
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| 07:32:07 PM | todd_ | v
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| 07:32:08 PM | agamotto | ehehehehehe
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| 07:32:09 PM | OldGuyJim | Chrisreich, I remember using teletypes before there were computers. They were great.
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| 07:32:13 PM | todd_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tty_%28Unix%29
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| 07:32:17 PM | _Jot_ | oh, did somebody say my name? I was just working on my dotmatrixprinter
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| 07:32:29 PM | chrisreich | Same here OldGuyJim!
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| 07:32:31 PM | maxwell6307 | TeleTYpewrite
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| 07:32:35 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, It is TeleTYpe. It is the code used to identify a terminal.
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| 07:33:21 PM | agamotto | I am amazed that Toshiba still sells ANYTHING computer
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| 07:33:46 PM | agamotto | ouch
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| 07:34:01 PM | chrisreich | OldGuyJim We had a model 15 that received the AP news at our college radio station. We also had one in the ham shack for ham operations.
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| 07:34:04 PM | tic-toc | only police cars
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| 07:35:11 PM | chrisreich | Nature. It's a wonderful thing.
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| 07:35:26 PM | OldGuyJim | chrisreich, I seem to remember a model k12(?) I used in the Air Force.
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| 07:35:53 PM | GoodGuy | is the web site dead?
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| 07:36:37 PM | GoodGuy | Hmmm worked on IE
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| 07:36:42 PM | GoodGuy | Not on FF
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| 07:36:46 PM | agamotto | wierd
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| 07:36:53 PM | chrisreich | I don't remember the model 12 OldGuyJim. I think there *was* one, but don't remember the differences. I know the 19 was a 15 with the tape punch.
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| 07:37:48 PM | lord_of_sporks | log flume
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| 07:37:53 PM | OldGuyJim | chrisreich, this was way back in the early to mid '60s
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| 07:38:01 PM | chrisreich | yep.
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| 07:39:04 PM | todd_ | cool...debian!
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| 07:39:08 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, did you see Robbie's pants? Tell me, are they old man pants or what?
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| 07:39:43 PM | todd_ | need to work if you want to have proprietary stuff on debian
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| 07:39:50 PM | OldGuyJim | agamotto, I had to choice privilege of fixing old keypunch machines. That is why I'm "OldGuy"Jim
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| 07:39:56 PM | EricKidd | They really, really are "old guy" pants> LOL
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| 07:39:58 PM | Garbee | Robbie, It is *so* oudated though.
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| 07:40:09 PM | _Jot_ | for the viewers, they are white and blue square shorts, like short gold pants
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| 07:40:13 PM | tic-toc | His pants match his coffee cup
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| 07:40:16 PM | _Jot_ | golf*
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| 07:40:20 PM | agamotto | Garbee, that is the point... stability over fashion
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| 07:40:37 PM | invinciblemutant | hi
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| 07:40:46 PM | chrisreich_ | Did anyone else just lose video and chat for a minute?
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| 07:40:56 PM | agamotto | not here
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| 07:40:56 PM | invinciblemutant | what is this show about?
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| 07:41:08 PM | invinciblemutant | just right back
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| 07:41:17 PM | Garbee | agamotto, I see that point, but having a years old kernel and not getting a current modern one for more than a year in the new release is just ludacris.
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| 07:41:35 PM | agamotto | Harujuku girls coding in PHP, while updating us on pop culture in Japlish?
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| 07:41:42 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, last show in this studio, he's answering questions and no making a VM with debian on it, for installing lamp later and putting it on that small box-computer he has
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| 07:42:16 PM | agamotto | Garbee, agreed. It isn't for those wanting anything sexy or flashy
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| 07:42:17 PM | invinciblemutant | ic...
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| 07:42:35 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, your download is so slow! Can't you speed it up?
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| 07:42:35 PM | invinciblemutant | i have recently installed tinycore
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| 07:42:45 PM | invinciblemutant | Tinycore works the same way i think
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| 07:42:46 PM | lord_of_sporks | yeap made for the small form factor like the litteral business card size and shapped burnable cds burn on one side and print business card on front
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| 07:42:52 PM | invinciblemutant | about the same size too
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| 07:44:09 PM | lord_of_sporks | You will prolly have problems with wifi internet for a network install
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| 07:45:51 PM | Garbee | agamotto, I just need up-to-date software. I can deal with midly outdated, but Debian is just an extreme.
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| 07:46:21 PM | agamotto | No, if the installer were intellegent, it would ASK you about your network before trying to connect to anything...
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| 07:46:32 PM | _Jot_ | haha, RobbieF's password is all stars!
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| 07:46:34 PM | agamotto | Garbee, agreed
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| 07:47:06 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: dont be surprise that the password behind the stars is your name !!!
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| 07:47:26 PM | _Jot_ | nah, RobbieF always uses '1234' as his password
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| 07:48:22 PM | Garbee | What is the deal with Robbie's password being the same thing I use on my luggage?
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| 07:49:05 PM | _Jot_ | it's easy to remember!
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| 07:49:09 PM | lord_of_sporks | hyeh spaceballs lol
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| 07:49:24 PM | chrisreich | Debian installs mail server software by default and does not tell you about it. You can de-install it by running 'tasksel' and de-selecting same.
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| 07:49:32 PM | invinciblemutant | If i installed my system in the UK, the default repo mirror is pointing to a host in the UK/europe during installation. If I move from UK to another part of the world, say Asia, how can i can change the repo to point to a mirror nearer
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| 07:49:47 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, It does not install mail software for me.
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| 07:49:59 PM | agamotto | You just tell it 'other' server, and pick one in your region
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| 07:50:15 PM | chrisreich | check again Garbee. Run 'tasksel' from a terminal.
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| 07:50:41 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, I have plenty of times before. It is never there unless I specify it to install.
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| 07:51:36 PM | chrisreich | Well it's *always* installed the mail server for me. I think of it as a bug in the installer that I correct later.
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| 07:52:07 PM | Garbee | Yea, it is owned by root by default.
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| 07:52:13 PM | Garbee | Need to chown and then edit.
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| 07:52:17 PM | Garbee | su -c
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| 07:52:37 PM | invinciblemutant | su -
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| 07:52:47 PM | invinciblemutant | or install sudo on debian
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| 07:53:01 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, as root, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to change the mirror
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| 07:53:02 PM | agamotto | "I made this, and Eric helped!"
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| 07:53:10 PM | chrisreich | Real men run as root (when necessary).
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| 07:53:46 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: How to determine which host is the fastest?
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| 07:54:00 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, 'ping' :)
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| 07:54:01 PM | chrisreich | Of course, real men are smart enough to not run as root when we are tired!
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| 07:54:07 PM | agamotto | invinciblemutant, If you choose the 'other' bit, it will test for you
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| 07:54:10 PM | maxwell6307 | gnome 2?
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| 07:54:10 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, Sudo is installed by default in Debian. You just need to add the user into the sudo group for access.
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| 07:54:30 PM | Garbee | maxwell6307, Yes, Debian is very outdated.
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| 07:55:16 PM | invinciblemutant | Garbee: add the user to the adm group?
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| 07:55:18 PM | chrisreich | In Debian, the sudo package is pulled in by the desktop environments. Clean non-gui installs will not have sudo installed automatically.
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| 07:55:23 PM | todd_ | which version of debian did RobbieF download? I missed it...
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| 07:55:26 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, No, sudo group.
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| 07:55:36 PM | Garbee | admin is Ubuntu only and even Canonical has moved to Sudo as of 12.04.
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| 07:56:22 PM | _Jot_ | todd_, the latest i386 small installation version, I think
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| 07:56:27 PM | chrisreich | Those who claim Debian is outdated have not run CentOS!
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| 07:56:31 PM | tic-toc | any word on when gnome 4 is coming out ?
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| 07:56:50 PM | agamotto | tic-toc, 10 years?
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| 07:57:04 PM | Guest_Harry | @RobbieF: is it possible to go from 1 distro to another doing an apt-get install?
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| 07:57:05 PM | tic-toc | : (
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| 07:57:09 PM | invinciblemutant | Garbee: got it, i used to change the sudoer file
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| 07:57:38 PM | tic-toc | Not a gnome 3 fan
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| 07:58:02 PM | agamotto | oops
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| 07:58:11 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, adding the user to the group using usermod is the preferred method.
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| 07:58:14 PM | invinciblemutant | thereis something important missing in gnome3
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| 07:58:16 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, since you are moving studios, how will we viewers be able to find the show again?
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| 07:58:45 PM | agamotto | Call the RCMP?
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| 07:58:45 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: may be we can use the addgroup command
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| 07:58:50 PM | todd_ | RobbieF: after the show would you tell me which version of debian you downloaded?
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| 07:58:54 PM | Guest_Harry | it worked for me from Zorin to Kubuntu, is it because they are Ubuntu distros?
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| 07:59:08 PM | agamotto | Guest_Harry, yes
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| 07:59:08 PM | Guest_Harry | NOOOOOOOO
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| 07:59:16 PM | Guest_Harry | oh sorry ok
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| 07:59:31 PM | _Jot_ | I bet there will be a brick wall in the new studio!
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| 07:59:47 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie will move the wall over
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| 07:59:50 PM | Guest_Harry | that's becoming the norm
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| 07:59:56 PM | OldGuyJim | Good luck with the move, I can completely empathize...been there done that more than once.
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| 07:59:59 PM | Guest_Harry | brick walls
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| 08:00:09 PM | chrisreich | Buh-bye all
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| 08:00:17 PM | invinciblemutant | where the new studio will be
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| 08:00:27 PM | todd_ | cool...the wall is coming down!
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| 08:00:33 PM | _Jot_ | oh no! somebody stole the greenscreen
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| 08:00:36 PM | New2Linux | Great Tutorial in Debian. Thanks Guys
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| 08:00:39 PM | gpop7 | goodnight all. see next week same time different station.
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| 08:00:43 PM | agamotto | I wonder what it will be like for Robbie & Bekah to have that room free again?
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| 08:00:47 PM | OldGuyJim | Great take-down. Good night.
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| 08:01:00 PM | Guest_Harry | discotech
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| 08:01:06 PM | _Jot_ | agamotto, it won't be enjoyed long with moving and such
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| 08:01:13 PM | tic-toc | Tear down this wall
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| 08:01:17 PM | gpop7 | thats all folks.
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| 08:01:31 PM | Guest_Harry | can I go and help???
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| 08:01:46 PM | agamotto | i thought they were just moving the studio, not homes
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| 08:01:46 PM | invinciblemutant | cant hear robbie juniors shouting downstairs anymore
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| 08:02:49 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_harry, feel free to email and
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| 08:02:52 PM | _Jot_ | ask :)
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| 08:03:00 PM | Guest_Harry | so agamotto, it is possible, even if they weren't Ubuntu distros?
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| 08:03:01 PM | invinciblemutant | where the new studio will be
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| 08:03:59 PM | _Jot_ | there were boxes in the corner, and there's stuff in there that wasn't studio stuff so I think it's moving house
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| 08:04:01 PM | RobbieF | Thanks all!
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| 08:04:17 PM | Guest_Harry | or just only because we get to the same repo it is possible?
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| 08:04:18 PM | _Jot_ | thanks for the great show RobbieF and EricKidd
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| 08:04:21 PM | agamotto | if they use .deb, it might work, but dependency differences will most likely bork it. Other packaging systems wouldn't work out
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| 08:04:28 PM | RobbieF | cheers _Jot_
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| 08:04:44 PM | Guest_Harry | @RobbieF. you're one of the best
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| 08:04:59 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: is moving house?
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| 08:05:10 PM | RobbieF | Awww thanks Guest_Harry - we joked that it's all about me, but really, it's all about you.
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| 08:05:12 PM | invinciblemutant | to the country?
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| 08:05:14 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, Guest_Harry just offered to do all the heavy lifting for moving
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| 08:05:34 PM | Guest_Harry | I will do the heavy lifting
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| 08:05:40 PM | Guest_Harry | yes
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| 08:06:27 PM | Guest_Harry | Done it about 6 times from one state to the other, and even from Countries
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| 08:06:38 PM | Guest73763 | ok robbie I sent an email about my auto-mount raid issue
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| 08:06:41 PM | invinciblemutant | The heaviest is the broadcasting system... Guest_Harry would have a chance to hug it
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| 08:06:42 PM | _Jot_ | I forgot to ask EricKidd to do a 'goodbye to the studio' song
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| 08:06:45 PM | Guest_Harry | 1 more , wouldn't hurt
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| 08:06:57 PM | agamotto | I lost track somewhere after move # 12
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| 08:07:11 PM | Guest_Harry | hahahahaha
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| 08:07:47 PM | EricKidd | :-D Good bye, studio. Good bye, studio. Good bye, studio. We're gonna leave you now! :P
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| 08:07:48 PM | invinciblemutant | i bet robbie wont let anyone touch it ...he will hug it to death
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| 08:07:57 PM | agamotto | For awhile as a kid, it became "new season, new state/country"
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| 08:08:25 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie if moving to the whitehouse?
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| 08:08:37 PM | _Jot_ | wow, amazing song EricKidd, too bad RobbieF didn't turn the sound on, but oh well :)
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| 08:08:47 PM | agamotto | Maison Blanche, non...
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| 08:09:31 PM | Guest_9639 | will this episode be posted tomorrow. I misased 95%
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| 08:09:35 PM | Guest_Harry | bYe bye guys good night
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| 08:09:44 PM | agamotto | Well, I suppose I should make something for dinner...
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| 08:09:46 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: where will be ur new studio?
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| 08:10:02 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_9639, yes, and sometimes it is even earlier on youtube etc
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| 08:10:52 PM | _Jot_ | because of the new broadcast server, it only takes hours to do everything, before it would take a lot longer
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| 08:11:40 PM | Guest_9639 | I've nevered watched n youtube I'll give it a try
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| 08:13:22 PM | _Jot_ | of course right now we can still see the backstagepass as well, so it's like things haven't even stopped yet :)
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| 08:13:31 PM | RobbieF | invinciblemutant we're staying in Barrie
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| 08:13:41 PM | RobbieF | just that Bekah and I bought a house.
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| 08:14:00 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, bought a house? Be careful, before you know it, she'll want to marry you and have kids and such
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| 08:14:07 PM | RobbieF | oh wait
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| 08:14:08 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: congratulations, you are moving to a new house in the same area?
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| 08:14:10 PM | RobbieF | did I do it backwards?
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| 08:14:11 PM | RobbieF | ;)
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| 08:14:11 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Does the new house already have fiber laid or are you needing to get it put in?
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| 08:14:29 PM | RobbieF | yes invinciblemutant. We have been renting, so we will finally have our own house.
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| 08:14:47 PM | RobbieF | no fibre, no. But they're upgrading it to fibre in the next 18 months so we'll be getting it then.
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| 08:15:44 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: Do you have the internet ready in the new home
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| 08:15:59 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you did get Cordery Electric to check everything so at least we won't have issues with that again?
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| 08:16:03 PM | invinciblemutant | i have moved a few times in my life
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| 08:16:16 PM | RobbieF | invinciblemutant they install the internet on thursday
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| 08:16:33 PM | RobbieF | yes _Jot_ cordery electric did the walk through and will be wiring everything for us.
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| 08:17:03 PM | invinciblemutant | internet is always the issue, i hope that the internet there would be stable enough
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| 08:17:07 PM | Garbee | Looks like I'm making a slew of new VM's tomorrow.
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| 08:17:18 PM | Garbee | One for every IE on every version of Windows that is still supported nix IE6.
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| 08:17:27 PM | _Jot_ | you're going to make a VM for every viewer of category5 Garbee?
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| 08:17:29 PM | invinciblemutant | Thank cordery elec
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| 08:19:01 PM | Garbee | Crap, that on top of upgrading to the Win 8 RTM bits.
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| 08:19:23 PM | _Jot_ | oh yeah, that's being released today (it's the 15th here)
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| 08:19:41 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: where are u from ?
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| 08:19:47 PM | _Jot_ | the netherlands
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| 08:19:50 PM | invinciblemutant | it is 15th here too in the east
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| 08:19:53 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, tomorrow stll. It is all by PST.
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| 08:20:03 PM | Garbee | It will be the 16th for some.
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| 08:20:11 PM | _Jot_ | sure, but it's still tomorrow here :)
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| 08:20:13 PM | Garbee | Possibly 17th if they release it later in the day.
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| 08:20:29 PM | invinciblemutant | win8 will be out today?
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| 08:20:36 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, No, tomorrow.
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| 08:20:41 PM | _Jot_ | yes, for msdn and technet subscribers
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| 08:20:42 PM | Garbee | The 16th for you.
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| 08:21:01 PM | _Jot_ | next week for system builders
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| 08:21:01 PM | Garbee | http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/08/01/windows-8-has-reached-the-rtm-milestone.aspx
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| 08:21:05 PM | Garbee | All dates PST/USA.
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| 08:21:32 PM | Garbee | I get it tomorrow since I am a Technet subscriber.
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| 08:21:44 PM | Garbee | Builds have already leaked online.
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| 08:22:01 PM | Garbee | Win 9 dev officially started a few days ago.
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| 08:22:52 PM | _Jot_ | they said they would do a point-release, so not windows 9 yet
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| 08:23:05 PM | invinciblemutant | what is rtm milestone?
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| 08:23:19 PM | Garbee | Release to Manufacturer.
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| 08:23:32 PM | Garbee | It means they get it to start building en-mass systems to be sold in stores.
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| 08:23:43 PM | _Jot_ | rtm means release to manufacturing, and the milestone is that no changes etc are being done anymore, so it's the break-point date for the final version that will be in stores
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| 08:24:10 PM | Garbee | Actually, we don't know that no new changes will be made Jot.
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| 08:24:14 PM | invinciblemutant | another jargon for release candidate
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| 08:24:18 PM | Garbee | They can still refine the new interface after relase if needed.
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| 08:24:29 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, No, RC was the RP.
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| 08:24:39 PM | Garbee | This is a business term for "Good to sell"
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| 08:24:41 PM | invinciblemutant | RP?
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| 08:24:45 PM | Garbee | Release Preview.
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| 08:25:01 PM | invinciblemutant | in RC normally no more new feature will be added
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| 08:25:04 PM | Garbee | Alpha = Dev preview, Beta = Consumer Preview, RC = Release preview.
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| 08:25:15 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, This is a new UI, they will refine if needed.
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| 08:25:28 PM | Garbee | If they don't, then they will fail.
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| 08:26:17 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the different between rtm and rc? does it mean that there will be a rtc
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| 08:26:23 PM | invinciblemutant | rtc release to consumers
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| 08:26:28 PM | Garbee | No.
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| 08:26:33 PM | Garbee | RC was still preview code.
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| 08:26:37 PM | invinciblemutant | difference
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| 08:26:38 PM | Garbee | RTM is the final bits, ready to sell.
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| 08:26:51 PM | Garbee | RTM is your 12.04.
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| 08:26:56 PM | _Jot_ | rc means release candidate, that means it is a candidate for the final release, but it can still be withdrawn, and is still undergoing testing etc
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| 08:27:01 PM | Garbee | Whereas 12.04 Beta 2 is your RC.
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| 08:27:03 PM | invinciblemutant | ic...
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| 08:27:09 PM | invinciblemutant | then just 'release'
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| 08:27:15 PM | _Jot_ | then if they don't find anything bad, the final rc will become the rtm-version
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| 08:27:15 PM | Garbee | No, that is GA.
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| 08:27:21 PM | Garbee | GA is General Availability which means anyone can buy it off the shelf and systems are sold with it at that point. RTM and GA are 2 terms for closed-source software.
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| 08:27:35 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, No, not with MS.
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| 08:27:42 PM | Garbee | They make changes well after the RC that we don't see until RTM.
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| 08:27:49 PM | Garbee | Final RC != RTM.
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| 08:28:05 PM | _Jot_ | I'm talking internal RC version here, not the public RC obviously
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| 08:28:18 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, We talk public since that is what we have the bits for.
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| 08:28:25 PM | Garbee | Also, technically it is Escrow build, not RC>
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| 08:28:35 PM | invinciblemutant | i think they just embed diff license terms for different releases
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| 08:28:47 PM | invinciblemutant | that is the point of having rtc and fr
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| 08:28:51 PM | invinciblemutant | rtm and fr
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| 08:28:56 PM | Garbee | License terms change very little actually.
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| 08:29:17 PM | invinciblemutant | otherwise, no difference between the binaries of rtm and fr
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| 08:29:30 PM | Garbee | What is fr?
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| 08:29:48 PM | invinciblemutant | final release
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| 08:29:52 PM | invinciblemutant | or ga
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| 08:29:53 PM | _Jot_ | rtm = final release
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| 08:30:01 PM | Garbee | The difference is in availability. RTM = Manufactuerer's only and tech people to test. GA = People can actually go buy it.
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| 08:30:12 PM | RobbieF | hope you all enjoyed yourselves tonight!
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| 08:30:25 PM | _Jot_ | no, rtm means release to manufacturing, it isn't a manufacturers only version
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| 08:30:31 PM | invinciblemutant | Garbee: what is point of testing after final release
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| 08:30:42 PM | RobbieF | thanks for being so understanding of my uber-overdone ness.
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| 08:30:43 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, that was referring to availability. See the previous sentence.
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| 08:30:55 PM | _Jot_ | you're always great RobbieF
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| 08:31:02 PM | RobbieF | :) thanks bud
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| 08:31:08 PM | RobbieF | this week has been mad
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| 08:31:11 PM | RobbieF | really really rushed
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| 08:31:14 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, It is testing in live systems with the final bits before you buy it en-mass for your entire enterprise. Or to build systems for in order to *sell* on the day of release.
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| 08:31:16 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: thanks for the studio new studio
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| 08:31:18 PM | Garbee | Release being GA.
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| 08:31:20 PM | RobbieF | too much to do but I am comitted to NEVER MISSING A SHOW :)
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| 08:31:25 PM | RobbieF | which is tough when you have to move.
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| 08:31:26 PM | RobbieF | lol
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| 08:31:32 PM | RobbieF | cheers invinciblemutant
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| 08:31:35 PM | RobbieF | OI
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| 08:31:40 PM | RobbieF | I'll post pictures to twitter when I take them
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| 08:31:49 PM | Garbee | Sounds like I need to do a blog post on MS release patterns.
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| 08:32:01 PM | Garbee | patterns should be stages.
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| 08:32:35 PM | _Jot_ | I'm almost like 'you should do a tour', but that isn't a good idea for the burglars
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| 08:33:46 PM | invinciblemutant | yea, i will never tell people online in any form that i will be away from home
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| 08:33:54 PM | invinciblemutant | even to friends
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| 08:33:55 PM | _Jot_ | Ms do have interesting build-patterns, which you can read from their leaked sourcecodes etc :)
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| 08:34:27 PM | _Jot_ | not that I actually would have any or something like that
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| 08:34:43 PM | invinciblemutant | i can trust friends, but not really friend's friends, or someone manage to peak into my friends screens
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| 08:34:58 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, it is pretty simple actually if you get their dev setup.
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| 08:35:14 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: leaked source?
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| 08:35:23 PM | Garbee | Lets not go there.
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| 08:35:26 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: M$ is now an accidental open source?
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| 08:36:12 PM | _Jot_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_leak#Source_Code_Leaks
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| 08:36:25 PM | invinciblemutant | Garbee: instead of saying not go there, i would like to know how to go there first
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| 08:36:42 PM | Guest_2152 | any one ever set up home security camera using Ubuntu ?
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| 08:36:43 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant, We aren't going to start sharing sources of leaked software.
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| 08:37:26 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: lol... _Jot_ just did
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| 08:37:27 PM | robgor | great show RobbieF, well what I was able to watch due to crappy wifi at work :(
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| 08:37:40 PM | Garbee | Mutant, that is a Wikipedia article.
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| 08:37:43 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: change the router
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| 08:37:47 PM | Garbee | If it links to it, so be it since it is Wikipedia.
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| 08:37:52 PM | robgor | Guest_2152 do you want to be able to record the feeds?
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| 08:38:23 PM | Guest_2152 | not really. Just see what is going on at home
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| 08:38:49 PM | invinciblemutant | it is a good idea, i know that uustream allows live recording
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| 08:39:17 PM | robgor | ok I have got it setup using ip cameras, and running my modem, router and cameras off a UPS, dont need the computer running then
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| 08:39:31 PM | invinciblemutant | anyone who watch BBC olympic before, there is a good idea to rewind to previous time during live streaming
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| 08:39:39 PM | Guest_2152 | I go out of town alot. Would be nice to see if house is OK
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| 08:40:22 PM | invinciblemutant | Guest_2152: what if it is not ok, what can you do?
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| 08:40:30 PM | robgor | yeah I just got some cheap ones of ebay
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| 08:40:44 PM | Guest_2152 | have neibors fix problem
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| 08:41:09 PM | invinciblemutant | robgor: provided that it is not broke in...otherwise, you have to give them your keys
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| 08:41:36 PM | invinciblemutant | robgor: where are you from?
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| 08:41:49 PM | Guest_2152 | they already have one. I trust them
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| 08:42:27 PM | invinciblemutant | wow...it is a lovely neighbourhood, i can feel that
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| 08:43:00 PM | invinciblemutant | it is a shame that i dont even know my neighbour well
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| 08:43:14 PM | Guest_2152 | I live in small town . people are helpful
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| 08:43:37 PM | Guest_2152 | so can you help or not
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| 08:43:41 PM | Guest_2152 | ?
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| 08:44:11 PM | invinciblemutant | help?
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| 08:44:27 PM | Guest_2152 | set up a drop cam.
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| 08:44:43 PM | Guest_2152 | useing linux
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| 08:44:46 PM | invinciblemutant | it should be easy...a consumer device is always easy
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| 08:45:01 PM | invinciblemutant | i havent tried it before...
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| 08:45:17 PM | invinciblemutant | i used to use ffmepg
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| 08:45:40 PM | invinciblemutant | i recorded my home using my laptop webcam
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| 08:45:54 PM | invinciblemutant | recorded to a mounted remote disk
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| 08:46:04 PM | Guest_2152 | I do not wont to set up a static ip address and go through all the trouble
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| 08:46:39 PM | invinciblemutant | i think static ip is always good for small home, especially ip camera
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| 08:48:05 PM | invinciblemutant | do not use dynamic...especially when you need to configure your router to forward port to your ip camera
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| 08:48:16 PM | invinciblemutant | so that you can access the web online
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| 08:48:28 PM | Guest_2152 | do you know where I could go to a website and see how to set it up ?
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| 08:48:31 PM | invinciblemutant | ip cameras normally come with a small web server
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| 08:48:51 PM | invinciblemutant | it should be very easy, rtbm
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| 08:49:01 PM | Guest_2152 | they charge a monthly fee for recording
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| 08:49:20 PM | invinciblemutant | the tricky part is to configure you router so that you can access the camera web server from outside
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| 08:49:40 PM | invinciblemutant | who charges monthly fee?
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| 08:49:50 PM | Guest_2152 | you mean opening ports
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| 08:50:02 PM | invinciblemutant | do you wont the router?
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| 08:50:08 PM | invinciblemutant | own
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| 08:50:09 PM | Guest_2152 | d-link and net gear
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| 08:50:24 PM | invinciblemutant | do you own the router?
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| 08:50:35 PM | Guest_2152 | yes
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| 08:50:39 PM | invinciblemutant | your ISP should have all port open for you...
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| 08:50:53 PM | invinciblemutant | your should be getting a public ip in which you can access from outside
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| 08:51:27 PM | Guest_2152 | if it is not static it will change and keep you out
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| 08:51:31 PM | invinciblemutant | what you need to do is to configure you router so that you can see the ip camera outside
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| 08:51:53 PM | invinciblemutant | yes, that is why i suggest static ip for your camera
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| 08:52:01 PM | Guest_2152 | I need to see a video
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| 08:52:10 PM | invinciblemutant | ok
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| 08:52:21 PM | invinciblemutant | you need to learn port forwarding
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| 08:52:24 PM | Guest_2152 | good night
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| 08:52:29 PM | invinciblemutant | ok...
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| 08:52:30 PM | invinciblemutant | bye
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| 08:52:34 PM | invinciblemutant | good night there
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| 08:54:28 PM | invinciblemutant | bye all...gtg
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