| 06:58:03 PM | RobbieF | ha cybersmurf :)
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| 06:58:08 PM | B00|mbp | nearly midnight here
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| 06:58:14 PM | ajamison5579 | did Scotty beam up Mr. Kidd
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| 06:58:20 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, I'm going retro.
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| 06:58:20 PM | cyberSmurf | hiya RobbieF! Glad you're still standing!
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| 06:58:24 PM | _Jot_ | I have no idea New2Linux, but record what to usb?
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| 06:58:37 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ - You got me on that one@!
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| 06:58:37 PM | Dennis_Kelley | !
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| 06:58:44 PM | Gadwil | My nick change just through people in 4 other rooms *way* off.
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| 06:58:45 PM | Gadwil | lolz
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| 06:59:13 PM | Gadwil | Hello EricKidd how have you been?
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| 06:59:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | cyberSmurf - he is actually sitting right now!
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| 07:00:06 PM | _Jot_ | press play to play title now
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| 07:00:08 PM | EricKidd | Hey, nice to see you. Hope you're all doin' well!
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| 07:00:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Its On!!
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| 07:00:45 PM | New2Linux | _Jot_ a podcast to USB drive
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| 07:00:49 PM | cyberSmurf | Dennis_Kelley: hehehe..
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| 07:00:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello GoodGuy, chrisreich
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| 07:00:53 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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| 07:01:03 PM | chrisreich | hi Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:01:03 PM | ajamison5579 | you do not look a day over 257
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| 07:01:04 PM | DJMike | Hi Eric. You can ask Robbie where i been. its hasnt been well
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| 07:01:09 PM | GoodGuy | Hello Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:01:25 PM | GoodGuy | hi chrisreich
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| 07:01:41 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, They are referred to as "dwarfs".
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| 07:01:44 PM | chrisreich | Good day, GoodGuy
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| 07:01:48 PM | Gadwil | Not only because of the awesome beards.
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| 07:02:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | How come everytime RobbieF moves, the camera moves?
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| 07:02:12 PM | Gadwil | Dennis_Kelley, I think you move.
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| 07:02:18 PM | DJMike | Hi Eric. You can ask Robbie where i been. its hasnt been well
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| 07:02:20 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF's hair is getting rather long. Maybe it's for winter warmth.
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| 07:02:21 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Might be Gadwill
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| 07:02:42 PM | DJMike | BTW I cant get on the BSP
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| 07:02:53 PM | Gadwil | Dennis_Kelley, That is why you don't have 3 beers *before* the show but wait until it starts to begin drinking.
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| 07:02:55 PM | _Jot_ | Sasha looks a lot like EricKidd!
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| 07:03:03 PM | Gadwil | DJMike, What is going wrong?
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| 07:03:07 PM | chrisreich | iCandy!
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| 07:03:15 PM | Gadwil | The new link is http://live.cat5.tv/bsp.htm
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| 07:03:21 PM | OldGuyJim | Hey...nothing wrong with old guys.
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| 07:03:28 PM | B00|mbp | did i really say that LOL
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| 07:03:42 PM | chrisreich | I'm so old I remember when ancient history was just history.
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| 07:03:45 PM | DJMike | I press show all and everything but the bsp shows up. I will just try that link
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| 07:03:46 PM | Gadwil | Install over ZorinOS?
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| 07:03:50 PM | _Jot_ | New2Linux, here is an article about podcasting with linux: http://www.packtpub.com/article/podcasting-with-linux-command-line-tools-and-audacity
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| 07:04:08 PM | eyemeansit | Knoppix: the ORIGINAL live-cd!
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| 07:04:08 PM | _Jot_ | Normally, podcasts are just files, so whatever you use to copy files would work, if you download them or something
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| 07:04:23 PM | Gadwil | French Fries: My original snack food!
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| 07:04:31 PM | OldGuyJim | I remember history when it was just beginning..;-)
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| 07:04:31 PM | Gadwil | take that eyemeansit.
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| 07:04:58 PM | U-Al | used knoppix for file recovery on windows machines
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| 07:05:21 PM | OldGuyJim | Has anyone tried Arch Linux??
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| 07:05:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Rest in Peace Neil Armstrong!
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| 07:05:24 PM | _Jot_ | wow! This new HD clarity is so clear, you can even see the flesh-coloured wires growing out of RobbieF and EricKidds heads! They are just androids or robots!
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| 07:05:31 PM | B00|mbp | oh noes
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| 07:05:44 PM | New2Linux | _Jot_ thanks
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| 07:05:44 PM | OldGuyJim | I was fortunate to watch that first step on the moon.
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| 07:05:56 PM | B00|mbp | U-Al: is here
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| 07:05:59 PM | GoodGuy | I was also OldGuyJim
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| 07:06:00 PM | Gadwil | joedemax, Is Eric's beard jaggy enough for ya?
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| 07:06:02 PM | chrisreich | OldGuyJim I'm preparing my head to try Arch Linux again after about a year.
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| 07:06:15 PM | Gadwil | If you point out your segway, you fail.
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| 07:06:18 PM | U-Al | Hello B00. lol
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| 07:06:25 PM | B00|mbp | bwahahahaha
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| 07:06:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am using ZevenOS right now. not sure if I like it!
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| 07:06:38 PM | B00|mbp | macbookpro tut
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| 07:06:39 PM | chrisreich | DRINK!
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| 07:06:43 PM | GoodGuy | There are a few Arch type Linux distros where they prebuild it
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| 07:06:50 PM | joedemax | that's a delightful beard
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| 07:06:51 PM | _Jot_ | What did I win?
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| 07:06:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello!
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| 07:06:58 PM | U-Al | hello
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| 07:06:59 PM | _Jot_ | oh wait, that isn't a suprise, Jot winning
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| 07:07:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Nothing _Jot_
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| 07:07:08 PM | GoodGuy | That is the Haiku like one isnt it Dennis_Kelley ?
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| 07:07:14 PM | U-Al | >uncle al
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| 07:07:15 PM | B00|mbp | hello unk al ;)
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| 07:07:15 PM | Gadwil | Bagpipes?
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| 07:07:16 PM | _Jot_ | now that is a suprise, Dennis_Kelley!
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| 07:07:20 PM | chrisreich | OldGuyJim if you need a GUI, give ArchBang Linux a shot.
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| 07:07:31 PM | Gadwil | What kind of a father are you to allow a child to play those horrid sound-making devices?
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| 07:07:49 PM | _Jot_ | so what is coming up in the newsroom EricKidd?
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| 07:07:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Gadwil - whats wrong with Bagpipes
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| 07:08:00 PM | Dennis_Kelley | if played well
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| 07:08:06 PM | OldGuyJim | I've gotten frustrated with what looks like Canonical starting to act like Microsoft. I've been checking out Arch and it brought back fond memories of installation slackware from 3.5" floppies. It really looks good. I tried the Archbang live CD and it saw my wireless with no problem. The latest Ubuntu would not do that.
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| 07:08:14 PM | Gadwil | Dennis_Kelley, I think that sentence filled it in... "horrid sound-making devices"
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| 07:08:19 PM | DJMike | Thanks Robbie
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| 07:08:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Gadwil - Bad Bagpipes are not good!
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| 07:09:28 PM | EricKidd | Aw, the pipes, played well, are splendid!
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| 07:09:30 PM | _Jot_ | woohoo! Carrie Webb!
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| 07:09:33 PM | cyberSmurf | raffle raffle raffe - all expense paid trip to the big show!
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| 07:09:37 PM | BitSprocket | Ahoy all!
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| 07:09:37 PM | chrisreich | OldGuyJim I love Debian, but an objective evaluation of what I was trying to do with it brought me to realize that Arch may be a more well suited platform. I put Linux on old PowerPC Macs.
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| 07:09:43 PM | Guest_1614 | chrisreich: have you looked into Manjaro Linux
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| 07:09:58 PM | Guest_7740 | hi all
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| 07:09:58 PM | Gadwil | EricKidd, As long as they are in a sound-proof room away from me I'm fine tbh.
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| 07:10:02 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I just got my first Kilt this weekend!
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| 07:10:04 PM | chrisreich | never heard of it, Guest_1614. I'll look it up. Thanks.
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| 07:10:29 PM | Guest_1614 | It's a new Arch
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| 07:10:35 PM | GoodGuy | My brother was a rudimental drummer... practiced hours on end
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| 07:10:39 PM | OldGuyJim | Guest_7740...isn't Manjaro the open version of Mandriva (Mandrake)?
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| 07:10:40 PM | Guest_3276 | hi
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| 07:10:58 PM | _Jot_ | hi Guest
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| 07:11:13 PM | GoodGuy | no thats is Magia.. spelled wrong
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| 07:11:25 PM | chrisreich | Then again there is the little known Isle Of Mann pipes...
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| 07:11:39 PM | _Jot_ | To change your nickname, type /nick newnickname
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| 07:11:45 PM | _Jot_ | where newnickname is your new nickname
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| 07:11:47 PM | GoodGuy | My name is Mud!
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| 07:11:54 PM | _Jot_ | no GoodGuy! Your name is GoodGuy!
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| 07:12:01 PM | B00|mbp | my name is pond
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| 07:12:04 PM | Guest_7740 | installed mint 13 love it
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| 07:12:04 PM | GoodGuy | just kidding
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| 07:12:05 PM | OldGuyJim | Sorry...I mean't Guest_1614.
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| 07:12:05 PM | B00|mbp | fish pond
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| 07:12:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy that is a cool song
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| 07:12:20 PM | Guest_1614 | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=manjaro
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| 07:12:28 PM | _Jot_ | Spock looks a lot like EricKidd, same hair
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| 07:12:28 PM | GoodGuy | I didnt know it was a song lol
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| 07:12:34 PM | GoodGuy | just making a joke
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| 07:12:41 PM | Gadwil | EricKidd, Issac isn't that bad.
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| 07:12:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy - yes by Primus!
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| 07:13:32 PM | cyberSmurf | ahh, the saga of the mystery Raid drive.
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| 07:13:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | EricKidd as long as you have a southern twang
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| 07:13:39 PM | GoodGuy | We sat at the desk and cried and cried
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| 07:13:45 PM | ajamison5579 | yeah Country is all wining
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| 07:13:49 PM | ajamison5579 | whiney
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| 07:13:56 PM | ajamison5579 | oh heck they complain
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| 07:13:59 PM | _Jot_ | that's not hair Erickidd, that's fungus! RobbieF has been hiding in the dark spaces so he didn't have to move anything
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| 07:14:00 PM | GoodGuy | That is Charley Sheen!
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| 07:14:13 PM | GoodGuy | winning
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| 07:14:42 PM | Gadwil | Get an *exact* copy of the drive and pull the board off and put a new one in and hope the lightening did not destory the data directly.
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| 07:15:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ EricKidd has pointy ears?
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| 07:15:12 PM | Gadwil | Firmware.
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| 07:15:31 PM | _Jot_ | sure Dennis_Kelley, he just hides them just like spock did when he visited our time
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| 07:15:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Sorry EricKidd
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| 07:15:44 PM | chrisreich | I have a saying. "No backup, no sympathy". All in the chat room have my permission to use it freely.
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| 07:15:55 PM | EricKidd | i'll get over it :(
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| 07:15:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ with a headband/hat?
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| 07:16:08 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, or long hair
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| 07:16:16 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Try that!
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| 07:16:35 PM | cyberSmurf | love my BlackX
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| 07:16:54 PM | chrisreich | OWC has one just like that. macsales.com - I have no affiliation.
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| 07:17:01 PM | BitSprocket | SpinRite is a great option too
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| 07:17:42 PM | Gadwil | BitSprocket, SpinRite won't do to well with lightening damage like that.
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| 07:17:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *True that!
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| 07:17:53 PM | BitSprocket | Depends on the problem really
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| 07:18:04 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, no master/slavve with sata, because there is only one drive on a cable so they did away with that
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| 07:18:15 PM | eyemeansit | BlacX is great, but only does sata drives... I'd like to find an adaptor that would enable me to use mine with ide hard drives
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| 07:18:41 PM | EricKidd | _jot_, you're right...I realized that we were talking sata the second after i said it. whooops
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| 07:19:15 PM | GoodGuy | Vantec makes one, but it is not a dock
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| 07:19:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | It does look like EricKidd!
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| 07:19:28 PM | chrisreich | eyemeansit couldn't a cable with an adapter be built to do what you ask? I've seen the adapters. Come to think of it, at OWC (macsales.com).
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| 07:19:45 PM | GoodGuy | a connector with multiple interfaces via USB cable
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| 07:19:54 PM | invinciblemutant | is the video quality today HD?
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| 07:20:23 PM | GoodGuy | MicroCenter sells it along with one by KingWin and a few others
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| 07:20:23 PM | eyemeansit | chrisreich: very likely, just haven't tried it yet
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| 07:20:35 PM | invinciblemutant | it does not seem to be HD
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| 07:20:42 PM | Gadwil | EricKidd, I'm drinking water as well.
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| 07:20:46 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, pretty much, but RobbieF connected the camera about 6 minutes before he put it online, so the quality may not be perfect yet
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| 07:21:01 PM | OldGuyJim | Lightening damage usually takes out the onboard drive circuitry. Spinright needs good circuitry to work.
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| 07:21:27 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: i can distinguish the quality really
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| 07:21:51 PM | invinciblemutant | it is like quality before the broadcast system upgrade
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| 07:22:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ - didn't RobbieF say something about the HD camera at the top of the show?
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| 07:22:25 PM | _Jot_ | invinci blemutant, yeah, but don't forget he's in the middle of moving and such :)
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| 07:22:26 PM | Gadwil | Quality is down this week as it was last week and may continue to be for another week or two while things are tweaked in the new studio.
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| 07:22:48 PM | OldGuyJim | Moving ain't fun.
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| 07:22:51 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.vantecusa.com/en/product/view_detail/266
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| 07:23:00 PM | GoodGuy | That is the Vantec gadget
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| 07:23:13 PM | Gadwil | RobbieF, This year Christmas is on a Tuesday...
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| 07:23:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Even when RobbieF was sick he made a show!!
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| 07:23:40 PM | OldGuyJim | RobbieF even takes the show on holiday with him and family.
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| 07:23:45 PM | invinciblemutant | yea, no backdrop too, robbie is on shorts
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| 07:23:45 PM | _Jot_ | congratulations to Hillary! (If you're ever watching this)
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| 07:23:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | True that OldGuyJim
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| 07:24:01 PM | cyberSmurf | RobbieF and Eric: Kudos for keeping it ON AIR - amazing all things considered.
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| 07:24:05 PM | invinciblemutant | ask robbie to stand up, he is in his shorts
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| 07:24:22 PM | _Jot_ | I think he changed to pants, invinciblemutant, he did change his shirt
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| 07:24:28 PM | cyberSmurf | hehehe... shorts or p.j.s
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| 07:24:50 PM | OldGuyJim | Whatever he is wearing, I bet it is comfortable.
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| 07:25:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello RachelX
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| 07:25:13 PM | RachelX | Howdileee doodilee dooo
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| 07:25:27 PM | _Jot_ | hi RachelX, good morning
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| 07:25:36 PM | OldGuyJim | Hello RachelX....How be you.
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| 07:25:38 PM | invinciblemutant | lol..indeed...moving is daunting
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| 07:25:51 PM | Gadwil | Hello RachelX. How have you been doing?
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| 07:26:09 PM | RachelX | Maybe goodmorning for you jot, evening here :)
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| 07:26:17 PM | RachelX | I'm good, just blobbing figured Id stop in say hi
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| 07:26:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Is RobbieF cloths still packed? Nothing but shorts
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| 07:26:28 PM | joedemax | RobbieF a linux savvy burglar?
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| 07:26:30 PM | Gadwil | RachelX, When will RobbieF be nice and have you back on the show?
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| 07:27:01 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, it's night here! But I figured you were rooster-ing, so it must be morning there
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| 07:27:04 PM | robgor | hey RobbieF just tried it under ubuntu 12.04 at work and its working ok
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| 07:27:11 PM | BitSprocket | I don't often watch the show live but is it only me that thinks the feed is low quality?
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| 07:27:17 PM | joedemax | BitSprocket no fiber
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| 07:27:18 PM | joedemax | lol
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| 07:27:19 PM | joedemax | soz
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| 07:27:33 PM | BitSprocket | Thanks joedemax
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| 07:27:34 PM | OldGuyJim | BitSprocket...my feed is very good.
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| 07:27:35 PM | Gadwil | BitSprocket, It is low compared to what it has been.
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| 07:27:46 PM | _Jot_ | BitSprocket, it is a bit lower than we're used to, because RobbieF is in the middle of moving so things aren't set up as good as they can be
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| 07:28:13 PM | BitSprocket | Gotcha, just was wondering if the problem was on my end. Thanks guys!
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| 07:28:15 PM | DJMike | Robbie. I send u a email about windows live.
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| 07:28:35 PM | Gadwil | DJMike, What is your issue with Windows Live?
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| 07:28:44 PM | GoodGuy | Hi RachelX
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| 07:28:45 PM | _Jot_ | BitSprocket, not sure if you saw the beginning, but apparently we should be glad for it, otherwise we would all be starting at various nose and ear-hairs
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| 07:28:56 PM | RachelX | I'll be back at some point. Checked out the new studio, fancy smancy.
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| 07:28:56 PM | B00|mbp | lol
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| 07:29:11 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, no backdrop though, so not fancy enough yet :)
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| 07:29:21 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the resolution of a fullHD tv
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| 07:29:25 PM | BitSprocket | _Jot_ I did catch that! LoL
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| 07:29:32 PM | RachelX | Ahh the brick wall isn't back up. Maybe a new backdrop will make an appearance.
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| 07:29:34 PM | Gadwil | IPv6 FTW!
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| 07:29:37 PM | GoodGuy | You didnt finish dressing completely RachelX ? (missing your "u")
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| 07:29:39 PM | DJMike | He wanted me to add him to my windows live and he hasnt seen me on.
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| 07:29:47 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, let's hope so! At least the BSP is still the same, all white walls
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| 07:29:55 PM | joedemax | I LOVE LASERDISC!
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| 07:30:04 PM | ajamison5579 | upgrade to IPv6 is what they will need to do
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| 07:30:07 PM | Gadwil | joedemax, You are a monster on Earth.
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| 07:30:14 PM | RachelX | Yeah you can tell I'm lazy, couldn't be bothered to put the u on. As if my last name is soooo long. hehe
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| 07:30:26 PM | OldGuyJim | Bandwidth is going to go spppptttthhhh.
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| 07:30:37 PM | GoodGuy | I had a RCA video disk..wasnt laser iirc
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| 07:30:56 PM | Gadwil | RachelX, It is better this way. We aren't trying to pronounce your last name.
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| 07:30:57 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, it's always about U anyway, isn't it?
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| 07:31:00 PM | ajamison5579 | it looks like someone strapped her to a chair and threw her overboard
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| 07:31:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | but what happens if you can not move your foot?
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| 07:31:12 PM | GoodGuy | I told RobbieF I missed seeing your cheerful cohosting
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| 07:31:15 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the point of having the wheels?
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| 07:31:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | so it drives on land?
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| 07:31:41 PM | chrisreich | Hillary should try that out with her sunglasses-cam
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| 07:31:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its amphibious
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| 07:31:57 PM | RachelX | So anything new and exciting going on on the show?
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| 07:32:00 PM | DJMike | That girl is in a dress. lol I think that is photo shop
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| 07:32:10 PM | OldGuyJim | Is there any practicality to the chair?
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| 07:32:14 PM | invinciblemutant | amphibious? u mean the diver? or the wheels?
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| 07:32:15 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, a lot of handicapped people go swimming that are in wheelchairs, there are special periods for that in swimmingpools, and of course there is the recovery-procedures that are done in pools etc
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| 07:32:17 PM | GoodGuy | You are here.. That is something new :-)
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| 07:32:21 PM | Gadwil | The 40 minute newsroom
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| 07:32:27 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, but they don't do it in wheelchairs!
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| 07:32:39 PM | RachelX | haha 40 min newsroom Robbies viewers would disapear in a week.
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| 07:32:45 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: I dont think that is diving...
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| 07:32:57 PM | invinciblemutant | wheeling in the pool...
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| 07:33:04 PM | Gadwil | RachelX, I don't think I'll be back next week.
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| 07:33:07 PM | chrisreich | GoodGuy that's right the RCA video disc made physical contact with the cartridge on a 'tone arm'. The product that killed RCA as we once knew it.
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| 07:33:17 PM | OldGuyJim | Didn't he sing on the moon?
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| 07:33:30 PM | Gadwil | PI!
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| 07:33:31 PM | GoodGuy | Yes that was it... I had one and a coworker did also
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| 07:33:55 PM | RachelX | i dont know Gadwil your one of his most faithful fans, 40 min of newsroom 20 min of commercials and you still might come :)
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| 07:33:58 PM | GoodGuy | We had a local store that rented them
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| 07:34:01 PM | cyberSmurf | OldGuyJIm: ...lol!
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| 07:34:04 PM | chrisreich | I was at scout camp in RobbieF's neck of the woods when Armstrong walked on the moon.
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| 07:34:11 PM | Gadwil | RachelX, Not when I'm asleep.
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| 07:34:17 PM | OldGuyJim | And it is easy to spill stuff into it.
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| 07:34:27 PM | _Jot_ | I would watch that if RachelXu did the news
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| 07:34:38 PM | Garbee | +1 to that _Jot_.
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| 07:34:46 PM | invinciblemutant | well, it isnt good to spill over on anything
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| 07:34:47 PM | Garbee | Hopefully more cloud news that night too...
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| 07:34:56 PM | maxwell6307 | use it asa a media player
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| 07:35:06 PM | invinciblemutant | even spilling over from your cup to mine...:P
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| 07:35:08 PM | _Jot_ | there's a lot of clouds in the weather lately, there could be news about tht
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| 07:35:12 PM | GoodGuy | My old meanie wife insisted we toss the "treasure" out...who was I to argue with the cook
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| 07:35:16 PM | RachelX | clouds, gnomes, cookies, cheese these computer terms are made just to mess me up
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| 07:35:26 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ - Weather?
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| 07:35:49 PM | OldGuyJim | Wow...Wyse terminal's...haven't seen one in years.
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| 07:35:53 PM | GoodGuy | They have an emulator for Commodore 64 on Raspberry Pi's
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| 07:36:01 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, yes, it is some kind of stuff that happens in that big room outside, that has all kinds of colours and a big bright lightbulb that nobody can find the on/off switch for
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| 07:36:10 PM | GoodGuy | Saw an article somewhere iirc
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| 07:36:43 PM | RachelX | Im buying a new desktop computer this year. What brand to choose. (not Mac eck)
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| 07:36:56 PM | chrisreich | RachelX it gets worse. There's Gnome, shell (several of them), and Gnome-shell. All very different things. Not to mention Java vs. Javascript which resemble each other only in that both can be used to program a computer.
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| 07:37:12 PM | GoodGuy | Why not build one to your exact specs or have it built
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| 07:37:13 PM | chrisreich | RachelX Mac. Yes, Mac.
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| 07:37:21 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, try to get RobbieF to build one out of parts, that way you don't pay for the brand, and can spend that money for quality parts
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| 07:37:39 PM | B00|mbp | true that
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| 07:37:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I have tried Knoppix!
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| 07:37:56 PM | RachelX | I tried using a mac in animation, drove me insane. One hour and I said never again.
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| 07:38:13 PM | chrisreich | Seriously RachelX, who will be your primary support person? What is that person most skilled with? Buy that.
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| 07:38:21 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, The top bar is from Chrome itself.
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| 07:38:23 PM | GoodGuy | I burned the Knoppix DVD last night
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| 07:38:35 PM | RachelX | Yeah Jot Robbie would probably charge me a years supply of wine.
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| 07:39:21 PM | GoodGuy | You a woman.. give him a year of whine instead :-)
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| 07:39:33 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, good point GoodGuy
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| 07:39:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Good one GoodGuy!
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| 07:39:45 PM | RachelX | :) Not even sure what to spend on the computer, dont want a garbage computer, dont need a super fancy top of the line few grand computer either. Something in the middle.
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| 07:39:53 PM | chrisreich | RachelX, I've never known *anyone* who tried a Mac that regretted it, including myself.
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| 07:40:05 PM | RachelX | well now you have :) hehe
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| 07:40:20 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, if you're doing art for category5, then maybe it can be a business-expense
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| 07:40:25 PM | chrisreich | That surprises me muchly.
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| 07:40:26 PM | ajamison5579 | chrisreich i regret the price that is my blocker can not stand paying 4 grand for a decent desktop
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| 07:40:37 PM | GoodGuy | Did they check their wallet afterwards chrisreich ... may regret the new balance'
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| 07:40:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - Pick the Canadian Version, it has beer and hockey in it!
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| 07:41:26 PM | chrisreich | they don't get 4 grand for a laptop. And you get SO MUCH usable software and support. There's more to a Mac purchase than just the hardware.
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| 07:41:28 PM | GoodGuy | China has more people than any other nation
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| 07:41:33 PM | invinciblemutant | china contributes to 1/6 of world population
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| 07:41:49 PM | invinciblemutant | another 1/6 is india
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| 07:41:52 PM | GoodGuy | Plus I believe most can speak English
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| 07:42:14 PM | chrisreich | probably not much longer. They have a scarcity of young ladies to perpetuate the species.
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| 07:42:16 PM | invinciblemutant | in their accent definitely
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| 07:42:23 PM | invinciblemutant | mostly
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| 07:42:27 PM | cyberSmurf | next week, RobbieF delivers tutorials in Mandarin :-) wouldn't surprise me, that guy has talen.
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| 07:42:44 PM | _Jot_ | I don't think Sasha speaks Mandarin, but RachelX could do it
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| 07:43:17 PM | invinciblemutant | are you sure that rachelx can speak chinese
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| 07:43:19 PM | Garbee | EricKidd, Do you want to be anti-american again?
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| 07:43:23 PM | chrisreich | GoodGuy those who bitch about the *price* of the Macs have not considered the *value* of the Macs.
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| 07:43:26 PM | invinciblemutant | RachelX: can u speak chinese
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| 07:43:26 PM | RachelX | Ah yes next week you meet the new co host
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| 07:43:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - Ask chrisreich how good your english is?
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| 07:43:42 PM | RachelX | Wo shuo yidian zhongwen inviciblemutant :)
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| 07:43:48 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, yes, but RobbieF misspoke as usual, he said it would be this week, so a lot of people got disappointed
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| 07:43:53 PM | GoodGuy | They look nice, but very controlled environment
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| 07:44:01 PM | invinciblemutant | RachelX: amazing
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| 07:44:13 PM | RachelX | ahhh too bad jot. I've only seen her briefly but she seems very excited to come on the show.
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| 07:44:35 PM | GoodGuy | Price does matter to many users
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| 07:44:48 PM | invinciblemutant | RachelX: where did you learn it?
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| 07:44:54 PM | cyberSmurf | I read somewhere that the number of English students in China is larger then the number of US citizens.
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| 07:44:56 PM | GoodGuy | China
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| 07:45:15 PM | RachelX | well i only know a few hundred words in mandarin. I took it in university a year and have travelled to china a few times. Taught english there one summer.
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| 07:45:19 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, would be nice to see you again too sometime :)
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| 07:45:21 PM | invinciblemutant | GoodGuy: english students?
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| 07:45:23 PM | chrisreich | Price matters to *all* users. So does *value*. The disconnect is how many users take the time to consider the latter.
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| 07:45:44 PM | GoodGuy | I recall RachelX saying she lived there for awhile
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| 07:45:56 PM | cyberSmurf | "English Students" = students of the English language.
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| 07:46:09 PM | invinciblemutant | everyone has to study english in the school, it is a compulsory subject
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| 07:46:16 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF serious question - wasn't Knoppix the first easy to install Linux (just before Ubuntu Dapper Drake)?
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| 07:46:20 PM | OldGuyJim | RobbieF...We use Linuxmint, at work, to do that very thing.
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| 07:46:25 PM | ajamison5579 | chrisreich why take a machine that would cost 1k to make and charge 3 k for it that is price gougeing
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| 07:46:44 PM | GoodGuy | Because they can?
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| 07:46:46 PM | _Jot_ | I bet teaching English involves starting out and then shouting louder and louder untill the students understand, if I see how tourists try to get somebody to understand them
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| 07:47:13 PM | ajamison5579 | I like Macs but unless I win the lottery will not be buying one
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| 07:47:18 PM | ajamison5579 | to expensive
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| 07:47:25 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5570 - because they are godless communist profit-grubbing bastards, that's why!
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| 07:47:30 PM | RachelX | I always loved the english theme song they sung in school. Learning english easy job easy job easy job learning english easy job very easy
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| 07:47:33 PM | OldGuyJim | lol
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| 07:47:34 PM | RachelX | to london bridges falling down
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| 07:47:35 PM | cyberSmurf | Jot: that is a special language teaching technique that we've developed in the US :-)
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| 07:47:38 PM | invinciblemutant | i have many chinese friends, they speak their english chinese way
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| 07:47:45 PM | RachelX | i said that song is wrong in so many ways :)
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| 07:47:46 PM | invinciblemutant | strong accent
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| 07:47:49 PM | invinciblemutant | most of them
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| 07:48:14 PM | invinciblemutant | definitely there are still many who can speak like bbc hosts
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| 07:48:19 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5579 you pretend to know much about how much it costs to build a Mac. From where does your knowledge come?
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| 07:48:21 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, we'll remember your password 'demo123'
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| 07:48:50 PM | GoodGuy | They use standard Intel processors iirc
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| 07:49:03 PM | GoodGuy | standard hard drives
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| 07:49:41 PM | GoodGuy | Hard to believe a motherboard costs 3x the normal price of others using that CPU
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| 07:49:46 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, it wasn't an easy job for you?
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| 07:49:57 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, It isn't rocket science to calculate a Mac's true cost to build & ship.
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| 07:50:20 PM | chrisreich | another way to look at the matter brings to mind another saying of mine - "buy cheap, replace often". My main Mac is now 6-1/2 years old and still going strong. It's on 24/7.
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| 07:50:38 PM | GoodGuy | Unless Apple has to pay next of kin benefits for the stressed out workers
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| 07:50:40 PM | ajamison5579 | chrisreich their prices were set when they made their own proprietary hardware as it was more expensive since switching to standard hardware their costs have dropped
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| 07:50:50 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, I have had Windows systems run for over 7-8 years just fine.
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| 07:50:52 PM | RachelX | my pc ive had for 9 years, pentium processor eck it still runs fine but time to upgrade
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| 07:50:59 PM | Garbee | The extra price does *not* justify it to most people.
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| 07:51:07 PM | Garbee | If you take care of things properly, they last.
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| 07:51:09 PM | cyberSmurf | I like the buy cheap, replace seldom strategy myself.
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| 07:51:13 PM | chrisreich | Windows, by definition, does not run 'fine'.
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| 07:51:24 PM | GoodGuy | Those nets around the factories arent to catch butterflies lol
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| 07:51:27 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, When was the last time you ran Windows?
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| 07:51:28 PM | invinciblemutant | RachelX: run knoppix
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| 07:51:39 PM | RachelX | no clue what knoppix is
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| 07:51:45 PM | GoodGuy | Run Tiny Core Linux
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| 07:51:46 PM | RachelX | gnomes evil twin?
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| 07:52:00 PM | GoodGuy | Knoppix is a Linux Live CD mainly
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| 07:52:02 PM | invinciblemutant | yea ...
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| 07:52:05 PM | RachelX | i dont like linux, drives Robbie insane but just not a fan
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| 07:52:11 PM | invinciblemutant | are you watching the show ?
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| 07:52:19 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5579 Apple does not build anything with 'standard' hardware, unless you count the slim optical drives in the iMacs.
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| 07:52:20 PM | OldGuyJim | Not all linux is created equal. Some flavors are leaner than others.
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| 07:52:25 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie is on the show talking about it
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| 07:53:01 PM | ajamison5579 | chrisreich apple has not made their own motherboards, CPU graphics cards or ram in years
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| 07:53:13 PM | chrisreich | Garbee - ran, owned, or got hosed by? Please clarify.
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| 07:53:14 PM | chrisreich | \
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| 07:53:21 PM | RachelX | yes but when Robbie speaks computer its like another language to me :) I always need lamens explanations for everything
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| 07:53:31 PM | GoodGuy | We'll have to try submerging RachelX under water.. if she doesnt drown, she is a witch and anti-linux (Salem Witch trials)
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| 07:53:43 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5579 they design their own boards.
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| 07:53:46 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, they have a show for that called 'Category5' that explains many things. Oh wait...
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| 07:53:48 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Obviously you haven't done it recently which means stop acting like you know how a modern Windows OS runs on modern hardware.
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| 07:54:00 PM | ajamison5579 | not for desktops which is what i was talking about chrisreich
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| 07:54:05 PM | Garbee | ugh K. I have config issues with that DE.
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| 07:54:06 PM | GoodGuy | Foxconn make some of the circuit boards iirc
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| 07:54:06 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, I thought it was called the Salem Linux Trials
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| 07:54:07 PM | chrisreich | and they are the only company that mills their laptop cases from aluminum blocks.
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| 07:54:14 PM | GoodGuy | that also
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| 07:54:18 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie should learn chinese, speak computer stuff in chinese
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| 07:54:30 PM | RachelX | haha ive heard Robbies attempts at chinese........
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| 07:54:31 PM | GoodGuy | What about the new ultrabooks
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| 07:54:44 PM | invinciblemutant | how was it...
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| 07:54:47 PM | RachelX | basically just a bunch of made up chinese sounding words
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| 07:54:50 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Actually they aren't. Apple is trying to get another company to stop doing theirs that way since it is a trade dress issue.
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| 07:54:58 PM | Garbee | iirc it is Asus.
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| 07:55:07 PM | invinciblemutant | lol...that sounds fun
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| 07:55:20 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, it doesn't help that'you're acting like what he says makes sense in Chinese but is really insulting to them?
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| 07:55:43 PM | GoodGuy | The Knoppix guy (Klaus) writes for some UK pc mags
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| 07:55:51 PM | U-Al | does it have flash
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| 07:55:56 PM | RachelX | yeah he might get a smack in the face if he used it on someone who spoke the language
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| 07:56:23 PM | chrisreich | Well I do, Garbee and I find it unacceptable that software routinely requires to be run from within an account that gives the application and all other processes administrator privileges. Inexcusable.
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| 07:56:52 PM | invinciblemutant | is it because gnom3 requires video card requirement
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| 07:57:03 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Outdated. Ever since Vista they have been working on that and in Win 7 & 8 they have superb user control. Please stop being jaded.
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| 07:57:16 PM | OldGuyJim | RobbieF...Thanks. I haven't looked at Knoppix for quite a few years.
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| 07:57:18 PM | invinciblemutant | can we have gnome3 running on vbox
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| 07:57:27 PM | invinciblemutant | i havent tried it before
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| 07:57:30 PM | GoodGuy | Supposed to accuse him of being an Apple fanboy
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| 07:57:42 PM | invinciblemutant | enable hw acceleration
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| 07:57:44 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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| 07:57:48 PM | RachelX | i need to download dosbox sometime
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| 07:57:48 PM | chrisreich | ajamison5579 Apple designs all their own boards with the exeption of RAM (trivial) and the video cards in the Mac Pro.
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| 07:57:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | He said that last week!
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| 07:57:56 PM | RachelX | so i can play all my old cheesy cheesy dos games
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| 07:58:07 PM | RachelX | in full 16 colors
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| 07:58:09 PM | RachelX | :)
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| 07:58:10 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, Stop thinking like it is 2004 please.
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| 07:58:11 PM | invinciblemutant | next week
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| 07:58:12 PM | GoodGuy | Sasha Baron Cohen is "The Dictator" lol
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| 07:58:21 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, lies! cga only shows 4 colours (out of 16)
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| 07:58:24 PM | eyemeansit | Wow... that hour went by crazy-fast!
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| 07:58:39 PM | Mathman47 | Thanks RobbieF & that other nutty guy.
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| 07:58:50 PM | chrisreich | end of discussion. No more factual arguments are being offerred.
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| 07:58:53 PM | invinciblemutant | it has been a long time, cat5 has got 2 co-hosts appearing
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| 07:58:59 PM | cyberSmurf | Dennis_Kelley: hehehe..
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| 07:58:59 PM | GoodGuy | Make her a Raspberry Pi
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| 07:59:01 PM | _Jot_ | RachelX, see? RobbieF just promised you a new computer, that's how easy it is
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| 07:59:02 PM | Garbee | chrisreich, You weren't offering one to begin with.
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| 07:59:25 PM | RachelX | did he now
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| 07:59:28 PM | RachelX | ill remember that :D
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| 07:59:30 PM | invinciblemutant | sure, RobbieF is a nice guy
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| 08:00:06 PM | gpop7 | thank you for a great show. have a good week.
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| 08:00:06 PM | chrisreich | RobbieF no post card yet?
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| 08:00:18 PM | invinciblemutant | good show, RobbieF
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| 08:00:26 PM | invinciblemutant | enjoyed it
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| 08:00:28 PM | gpop7 | goodnight all.
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| 08:00:32 PM | OldGuyJim | Night all...still trying to find 7.0.4
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| 08:00:39 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone!
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| 08:00:52 PM | RobbieF | chrisreich, you're not going to believe this...
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| 08:00:58 PM | chrisreich | ?
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| 08:01:03 PM | GoodGuy | Go to DistroWatch
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| 08:01:07 PM | RobbieF | GOT the postcard (THANK YOU!) but [gasp] I left it upstairs on my way down with our water. :(
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| 08:01:19 PM | RobbieF | I was kicking myself right off the top (watch back... you'll notice) :)
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| 08:01:19 PM | RachelX | for shame Robbie FOR SHAME
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| 08:01:21 PM | RobbieF | haha
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| 08:01:27 PM | RobbieF | I'll bring it down for next week's show
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| 08:01:35 PM | chrisreich | Well I feel better knowing that you've received it. Thanks for that.
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| 08:01:42 PM | RobbieF | since the studio is in such shambles, I had not brought it down yet (nowhere to put it)
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| 08:01:43 PM | EricKidd | Heck, if i knew he wanted kicking, I coulda done it!
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| 08:01:43 PM | RobbieF | haha
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| 08:01:44 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you dropped it in water and now you can't read it and it's all mushy?
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| 08:01:49 PM | invinciblemutant | lol...i can understand that, new home, new feeling...
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| 08:01:51 PM | RobbieF | sorry mate; thanks for sending it; can't wait to raise it on the show
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| 08:02:06 PM | GoodGuy | Maybe he left it in the "Cloud" RachelX lol
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| 08:02:18 PM | chrisreich | nowhere to put a POST CARD?! Now that's a shortage of space RobbieF! :-)
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| 08:02:29 PM | _Jot_ | geez GoodGuy! Now she's laughing and can't stop. and we can't even see it
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| 08:02:34 PM | RachelX | either that or the gnomes snatched it
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| 08:02:36 PM | invinciblemutant | well, i watch lifehackers, they wear shorts most of the time
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| 08:02:40 PM | GoodGuy | lol that was the idea
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| 08:02:55 PM | chrisreich | RachelX why did you regret a Mac?
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| 08:03:16 PM | RachelX | yeah will have to blow up the postcard make it the new backdrop
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| 08:03:21 PM | GoodGuy | She didn't have any money left for food?
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| 08:03:25 PM | Ron_Smith | night all
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| 08:03:35 PM | RachelX | regret a mac?
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| 08:03:52 PM | _Jot_ | is it a big mac or a small mac? I hear some people really like big macs
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| 08:03:58 PM | invinciblemutant | i wish to know too, i am on mac now
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| 08:04:09 PM | invinciblemutant | from mcd?
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| 08:04:27 PM | chrisreich | earlier I said I've never know anyone to regret getting a Mac and you replied 'now you do' or something like that. Did I misunderstand?
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| 08:04:44 PM | GoodGuy | Apple execs are eating caviar while poor RachelX is battling the dog for leftovers after paying for her new Mac'
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| 08:04:53 PM | invinciblemutant | i regret a mac in terms of its OS...
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| 08:05:08 PM | invinciblemutant | I prefer linux, in terms of hardware, it is brilliant
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| 08:05:12 PM | RachelX | no you said anyone who tried a mac
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| 08:05:23 PM | RachelX | i have tried a mac and didnt like it
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| 08:05:43 PM | Guest_1614 | invinciblemutant: what makes a Mac so good the software or the hardware?
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| 08:05:48 PM | invinciblemutant | RachelX: havent owned it
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| 08:05:56 PM | chrisreich | I didn't 'grok' the Mac either at first, but the more I used it, the more I liked it.
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| 08:05:59 PM | RachelX | i just didnt like how the desktop was laid out, the scrolling icons, didnt run all the programs etc. Just didnt like using it.
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| 08:06:01 PM | invinciblemutant | according to apple, the combintation
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| 08:06:17 PM | GoodGuy | The elite status you feel as an owner? Like driving a Mercedes etc
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| 08:06:22 PM | invinciblemutant | for me, the hardware is good, steady, well built body
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| 08:06:41 PM | chrisreich | invinciblemutant agreed, Linux is brilliant. So is FreeBSD. Linux on PPC Macs rocks.
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| 08:06:56 PM | invinciblemutant | i would prefer a merc body with a toyota engine
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| 08:07:09 PM | GoodGuy | Can you easily update your Mac with new motherboards as tech advances?
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| 08:07:19 PM | invinciblemutant | as toyota makes better engines for city cars
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| 08:07:27 PM | chrisreich | RachelX have you heard of the 'baby duckling syndrome'?
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| 08:07:38 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, sure you can, just buy a new one
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| 08:07:43 PM | invinciblemutant | but i like hard body of a mac
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| 08:07:52 PM | invinciblemutant | i like the accessories of a merc
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| 08:07:52 PM | GoodGuy | My point exactly! :-)
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| 08:07:53 PM | chrisreich | GoodGuy irrelevant. You can't do it with Windows either.
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| 08:08:00 PM | GoodGuy | Wanna bet
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| 08:08:14 PM | invinciblemutant | mac is so constraning
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| 08:08:33 PM | invinciblemutant | i havent paid anythig for os upgrade, except macos
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| 08:08:40 PM | invinciblemutant | in my life
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| 08:08:41 PM | GoodGuy | I still had the first case I ever bought being used for years until a few years ago
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| 08:08:45 PM | chrisreich | You have to get 'special permission' from MS if you change your hardware "too much". It's their anti-theft practice.
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| 08:08:55 PM | GoodGuy | Pop in a new mobo, memory etc
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| 08:09:03 PM | Guest_1614 | Are motherboards branded to prevent swapping
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| 08:09:11 PM | GoodGuy | at least you could salvage a few parts
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| 08:09:44 PM | cyberSmurf | cybersmurf * sees the first salvos of an OS war breaking out ... flees for a refugee camp :-)
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| 08:10:00 PM | GoodGuy | Their mobos are buried in the screens, arent they
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| 08:10:04 PM | RachelX | Anyhoo my laptop battery is about empty so I'm gonna run, nice talking to you all. Bye for now :)
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| 08:10:14 PM | chrisreich | invinciblemutant all human-created works have limitations. "Constraining" is a subjective term.
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| 08:10:27 PM | chrisreich | good night, RachelX
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| 08:10:33 PM | invinciblemutant | it is for me, subject to invinciblemutant indeed
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| 08:10:40 PM | GoodGuy | Looked like that at the local Best Buy when I saw a few on a demo table
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| 08:10:48 PM | robgor | great show RobbieF and EricKidd
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| 08:10:59 PM | invinciblemutant | chrisreich: i miss all my commands and programs in linux
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| 08:11:18 PM | invinciblemutant | i miss all the scripts i have written on linux
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| 08:11:22 PM | chrisreich | you mean on your Mac you miss them?
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| 08:11:28 PM | cyberSmurf | Good show RobbieF & EricK - nite
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| 08:11:44 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_1614, apple motherboards or others? With Apple, you need the specific motherboard that came with it, and with most other computers, it is not that strict
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| 08:11:56 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...i miss my linux commands when i am on my mac
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| 08:12:25 PM | robgor | RobbieF not sure what is happening different but was able to watch the show on my Ipod Touch with wifi for the first time without cutting out
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| 08:12:39 PM | chrisreich | well of course you could open a terminal on the Mac and use FreeBSD commands. Most are similar, some are identical.
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| 08:12:52 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_1614, most motherboards aren't branded or something like that, but some computers could have that for security-purposes (for example, like the xbox 360 or ps/3 etc)
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| 08:12:57 PM | GoodGuy | Maybe Apples cost so much more because all those patent lawyers aren't working cheap lol
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| 08:13:09 PM | chrisreich | Or you could run Linux on your Mac. I've done that *many* times.
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| 08:13:15 PM | invinciblemutant | chrisreich: you own understand until u use it
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| 08:13:39 PM | invinciblemutant | you wont....***
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| 08:13:40 PM | chrisreich | use what?
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| 08:13:53 PM | GoodGuy | Or could run Linux on a regular PC.. for 1/3 the price :-)
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| 08:13:54 PM | invinciblemutant | u used mac before...it seems
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| 08:14:20 PM | chrisreich | I've used virtually everything at one time or another.
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| 08:14:25 PM | invinciblemutant | i got this mac at half the price, my friend sold it to me after 3 months using it
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| 08:14:36 PM | chrisreich | sounds like a good deal
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| 08:14:37 PM | invinciblemutant | he barely use it
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| 08:14:43 PM | invinciblemutant | it was a good deal
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| 08:14:49 PM | invinciblemutant | :)
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| 08:14:58 PM | chrisreich | intel or PPC?
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| 08:14:59 PM | Guest_1614 | Jot i think HP does as well. I wanted to replace one that had burned but was toled it had to come from Hp for the os to work
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| 08:15:09 PM | invinciblemutant | 2012 mar version mac pro
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| 08:15:24 PM | _Jot_ | all macs are intel these days
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| 08:15:28 PM | GoodGuy | I dont care for the gloss screens, but that is just a personal choice
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| 08:15:34 PM | chrisreich | Holy crap you've got a beast!
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| 08:15:35 PM | invinciblemutant | yes, all are intel
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| 08:15:56 PM | invinciblemutant | PPC is up to G4 only is it?
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| 08:16:00 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_1614, often those are not branded, but they do make their own motherboards, so you can't replace it with anyone. often it is a standard motherboard, but with some connections different
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| 08:16:21 PM | _Jot_ | guest_1614, most of the time, some wires in the connector to the powersupply are changed around for example
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| 08:16:53 PM | chrisreich | I think I could live w/ the glossy screen because it's high contrast. In the home, that is. The larger laptops have a matte option which I would insist on, personally.
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| 08:17:15 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: Guest_1614 'standard motherboard' is confusing, bear in mind that diff cpu requires different chipset on the montherboard, please take care of this
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| 08:17:32 PM | GoodGuy | As long as you have the windows covered, it is probably ok
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| 08:17:50 PM | GoodGuy | Otherwise you can see too many reflections
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| 08:17:53 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: Guest_1614 motherboard for an intel cpu is diff from amd cpu
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| 08:17:55 PM | Guest_1614 | got it
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| 08:17:55 PM | chrisreich | PPC's had G5s, 64-bit, in the desktop versions, but not laptops.
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| 08:18:18 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, I mean standard as in standard connections and things compared to what brands like hp, dell, etc, would use
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| 08:18:20 PM | invinciblemutant | different generation of cpu will need different chipset to support
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| 08:18:32 PM | invinciblemutant | most of the time, they are not backward compatible
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| 08:18:58 PM | chrisreich | I interpret the term "standard motherboard" to mean one of a standard form factor; ATX for example.
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| 08:19:01 PM | invinciblemutant | chrisreich: another thing on mac is that, you have to buy adapters for your display port on macbook pro
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| 08:19:22 PM | invinciblemutant | different ones if you have macbook pro and macbook air
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| 08:19:25 PM | invinciblemutant | they are different
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| 08:19:34 PM | invinciblemutant | i have just caught on this
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| 08:20:30 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: chrisreich standard motherboard:i just tried to clear the air
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| 08:20:40 PM | _Jot_ | the nice things about standards is that there are so many to choose from :)
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| 08:20:41 PM | invinciblemutant | :)
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| 08:21:02 PM | chrisreich | I don't see that as a deal breaker. That's a minor detail that may or may not be an issue for any given user. Besides, those adapters (I have one on my iMac) provide strain relief.
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| 08:21:05 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: I do agree with _Jot_
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| 08:21:42 PM | chrisreich | having to use an adapter for video is common in the industry.
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| 08:21:52 PM | invinciblemutant | Most of the time, upgrade is cheaper with clone machines
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| 08:22:48 PM | invinciblemutant | chrisreich: most of the laptop manufacturers use hdmi !!! not display port (apple only)
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| 08:23:11 PM | RobbieF | chrisreich - bottoms up. Cheers. :)
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| 08:23:15 PM | chrisreich | they do now, but that's a recent developmetnt.
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| 08:23:24 PM | RobbieF | Just a wee spot of JD for my friend Eric and me.
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| 08:23:27 PM | invinciblemutant | may be that is the elegance being special...
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| 08:23:35 PM | chrisreich | cheers, RobbieF. Keep up your good works!
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| 08:23:43 PM | RobbieF | Thanks :)
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| 08:24:00 PM | EricKidd | Mmmm :)
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| 08:24:17 PM | invinciblemutant | wow...happy hour
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| 08:24:36 PM | EricKidd | only an hour?
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| 08:25:04 PM | invinciblemutant | after the show...if your like, hours
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| 08:25:11 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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| 08:25:25 PM | invinciblemutant | good catch !!!
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| 08:25:31 PM | chrisreich | only an hour *at a time* EricKidd. Concatenate as desired!
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| 08:26:00 PM | invinciblemutant | chrisreich: yea, recursive hour !!!!
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| 08:26:05 PM | Guest_1614 | I have a netgear readynas and i wonder if I will hurt anything if I try a harddrive thats not on the compatiblity list
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| 08:26:22 PM | invinciblemutant | no har Guest_1614
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| 08:26:26 PM | invinciblemutant | no harm
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| 08:26:36 PM | Guest_1614 | great
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| 08:27:01 PM | _Jot_ | Most of the time, they do not test all of them becuase there's thousands of different types and they don't have all of those
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| 08:27:04 PM | invinciblemutant | Guest_1614: make sure you bacup the disk, i am not sure if the readynas will automatically format the dis for you
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| 08:27:07 PM | invinciblemutant | normally not
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| 08:27:18 PM | invinciblemutant | but better backup the disk
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| 08:27:28 PM | invinciblemutant | in terms of hardware, it is safe
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| 08:27:34 PM | _Jot_ | having backups is always a good thing
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| 08:28:05 PM | Guest_1614 | do you mean backup the disk thats already in the box or the newone
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| 08:28:07 PM | invinciblemutant | backup both sides, hd already in your readynas, and the one your putting in
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| 08:28:14 PM | Guest_1614 | new one
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| 08:28:24 PM | chrisreich | Guest_1614 as a rule, you won't *hurt* anything, but you may see diminished performance or capabilities. I can't speculate beyond that without details.
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| 08:29:03 PM | invinciblemutant | as RobbieF said, backup of backup
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| 08:29:31 PM | invinciblemutant | onsite backup + offside backup
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| 08:29:41 PM | invinciblemutant | offsite ...
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| 08:32:13 PM | _Jot_ | wow, RobbieF is poor, I was just checking his bankaccounts using the password 'demo123' that he gave
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| 08:32:18 PM | RobbieF | ;)
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| 08:32:21 PM | RobbieF | brilliant
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| 08:32:59 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: he is poor because hast got a bank account ....
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| 08:33:05 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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| 08:33:37 PM | _Jot_ | he has one, but it doesn't have anything worth mentioning! Must be because of that house he bought
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| 08:33:55 PM | invinciblemutant | that does not mean that he is poor. He keeps all his money at home !
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| 08:34:18 PM | invinciblemutant | u can open up his safe at home
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| 08:34:41 PM | _Jot_ | of course you can! It has computer-control with the password 'demo123'
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| 08:34:41 PM | invinciblemutant | same password for his safe at home....demo123
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| 08:35:28 PM | invinciblemutant | hope that wont trigger the alarm to the nearest police station
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| 08:35:36 PM | robgor | so RobbieF if you need a new co-host Iam willing but need alot of notice as it will take me a while to get to you from Australia
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| 08:35:56 PM | invinciblemutant | virtual co-host?
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| 08:35:57 PM | chrisreich | You should see what RobbieF has in his accounts with the *good* passwords!
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| 08:36:10 PM | invinciblemutant | which bank?
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| 08:36:12 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, by the way, that harddrive that was broken, wasn't broken at all, just something to do with heat because of the hot summer, so I rearranged some disks and took out ne that was making the others hot, even though it isn't so warm anymore, that helped too
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| 08:36:16 PM | robgor | though you might need to change the show name from category5 tv to 2 bald nerds tv LOL
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| 08:36:39 PM | GWG | Was there more than one bald nerd tonight?
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| 08:36:41 PM | GWG | And I missed it?
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| 08:36:42 PM | GWG | Darn
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| 08:36:53 PM | _Jot_ | wait - EricKidd is really bald and he's wearing a fake beard and wig?
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| 08:37:01 PM | robgor | hmm maybe 2 bald nerds is too much for the viewers to handle
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| 08:37:52 PM | _Jot_ | GWG, you missed viewer questions, news, and knoppix, but Robbie misspoke as usual, and it wasn't Sasha yet, that's next week
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| 08:37:52 PM | invinciblemutant | robbie is bottom up, there you see 2 bald nerd
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| 08:38:01 PM | invinciblemutant | s
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| 08:38:33 PM | _Jot_ | by the way, Robbies password is demo123 and he uses that on everything including his bank-accounts
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| 08:38:50 PM | invinciblemutant | that isnt a news
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| 08:38:58 PM | invinciblemutant | everyone knows that
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| 08:39:34 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, but he didn't admit it like that before
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| 08:39:38 PM | robgor | damn robbie stole my password I use demo 123 also
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| 08:39:59 PM | _Jot_ | it's also the password to the category5 website, so I changed the website to say 'Hi, I is Robbie and I am a bald nerd'
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| 08:40:58 PM | _Jot_ | robgor, but you use demo123, and he uses demo123
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| 08:41:14 PM | chrisreich | good night all - it's been fun.
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| 08:42:20 PM | robgor | LOL Jot, cant remember most of my passwords now that I use a password manager
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| 08:42:35 PM | _Jot_ | that's my job!
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| 08:42:37 PM | _Jot_ | apparently
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| 08:42:58 PM | _Jot_ | of course I keep all the passwords in double encrypted rot-13
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| 08:43:55 PM | invinciblemutant | most of the file has a file header, how can we get a file encrypted without a header
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| 08:44:23 PM | RobbieF | robgor ;) hehe
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| 08:44:37 PM | invinciblemutant | for instance, can we have a file when someone open it in hex editor, he cant know what file type it is
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| 08:44:40 PM | _Jot_ | just attach one to it, like how you attach a piece of tape to a new roll of tape to get it going?
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| 08:45:16 PM | invinciblemutant | cheers Robbief, bottom up for my chinese tea
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| 08:45:22 PM | robgor | RobbieF about the background picture for the show I wasnt critising you was just thinking with the new studio a new backgound might be good
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| 08:47:13 PM | GoodGuy | night all
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| 08:47:25 PM | invinciblemutant | robgor: i would like to top up your comment
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| 08:47:40 PM | invinciblemutant | I think RobbieF hasnt themed cat5.tv
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| 08:48:01 PM | invinciblemutant | the website themed outer space, the studio isnt
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| 08:48:22 PM | invinciblemutant | brickywall before, no plain white with a rack behind
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| 08:48:30 PM | _Jot_ | I do think the brick wall is pretty clever and looks nice, but that's me :)
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| 08:48:49 PM | invinciblemutant | for me, to make things elegant like apple, theme the same across the board
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| 08:49:28 PM | invinciblemutant | just comments, not commands
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| 08:49:38 PM | invinciblemutant | :P
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| 08:50:28 PM | invinciblemutant | I like apple's designs, see the web, see the products, see the stores, all themed the same
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| 08:50:45 PM | invinciblemutant | very elegant, you see it, you know what is it, whose stuff
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| 08:51:24 PM | invinciblemutant | i wont believe that steve job was a very messy, stink guy with no bath for moths
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| 08:51:27 PM | invinciblemutant | months
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| 08:52:20 PM | invinciblemutant | before he joined the marketing of his machines
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| 08:55:17 PM | _Jot_ | I wonder if that room is big enough to play hockey in
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| 08:57:41 PM | RobbieF | absolutely robgor; it needs to be put up for sure :)
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| 08:57:55 PM | RobbieF | Oh, but if you're saying you want a "new" backdrop, please send your donations :) hehe
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| 08:57:59 PM | RobbieF | they cost about $300 each
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| 08:58:17 PM | GWG | RobbieF, paint the wall
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| 08:58:18 PM | GWG | Cheaper
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| 08:58:29 PM | _Jot_ | those backdrops are awefully good though, I knew the bricks were a sheet, but I thought the lights were too
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| 08:59:43 PM | RobbieF | can't paint! hehe - this is the TEMPORARY studio.
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| 08:59:48 PM | invinciblemutant | ops...poor guy should keep shut
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| 09:00:10 PM | _Jot_ | nah, poor guys can be rich with suggestions
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| 09:01:24 PM | invinciblemutant | i can send another postcard, make the wall brickywall with postcards
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| 09:01:32 PM | invinciblemutant | cheaper
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| 09:01:52 PM | invinciblemutant | the living cost in malaysia isnt as high as in the us
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| 09:02:23 PM | invinciblemutant | earning here is not high too...
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| 09:02:37 PM | _Jot_ | that's often the case :)
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| 09:02:58 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF made that wall for 300, it could be just 100 usd here
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| 09:03:20 PM | RobbieF | yes, true VK7HSE and that's partly why I'm allowing it :)
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| 09:03:28 PM | RobbieF | Plus we launch season 6 soon
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| 09:03:32 PM | VK7HSE | ;-)
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| 09:04:21 PM | VK7HSE | RobbieF, what happened to the new chick? that ugly guy isn't as potentially cute!
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| 09:04:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - thats a good idea to put the Postcards on the wall
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| 09:04:42 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF misspoke about the date, what else is new :)
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| 09:04:50 PM | VK7HSE | ahh
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| 09:05:00 PM | _Jot_ | Sasha will be on next week
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| 09:05:01 PM | RobbieF | Hahaha
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| 09:05:09 PM | invinciblemutant | VK7HSE: oh...is it common to call ladies chicks?
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| 09:05:16 PM | RobbieF | yes, Sasha joins us next week. You'll love her.
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| 09:05:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I think RobbieF just likes to tease us!
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| 09:05:25 PM | VK7HSE | invinciblemutant, it is here ;-)
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| 09:05:48 PM | invinciblemutant | do you greet them chicks
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| 09:05:54 PM | invinciblemutant | hello chicks !!!
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| 09:06:00 PM | _Jot_ | Since it will be her first show, it is like she's been hatched, chicks do that
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| 09:06:34 PM | invinciblemutant | it is a vulgar word is it?
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| 09:06:44 PM | VK7HSE | no ...
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| 09:06:47 PM | invinciblemutant | or just casual
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| 09:07:09 PM | _Jot_ | it's not a polite word, but it's not insulting either
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| 09:07:17 PM | VK7HSE | Ok here in Australia chicks = girls/women/lady
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| 09:07:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - Did you see that I bought my first Kilt over the weekend! And I am proud of it!
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| 09:07:26 PM | RobbieF | I beg to differ; I hate it when Eric calls me his "Chick"
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| 09:07:41 PM | RobbieF | Dennis_Kelley I didn't catch that, no. Brave man! :)
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| 09:07:47 PM | EricKidd | no, i called him "bitch"
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| 09:07:50 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, shut up and go do housework?
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| 09:07:53 PM | VK7HSE | RobbieF, sure that not his B***h ?? O_o
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| 09:07:58 PM | RobbieF | Thanks _Jot_
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| 09:08:01 PM | RobbieF | lol
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| 09:08:18 PM | RobbieF | VK7HSE apparently you, and Eric avec le JD, think alike :)
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| 09:08:31 PM | invinciblemutant | in chinese, chick means whole
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| 09:08:35 PM | invinciblemutant | whore
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| 09:08:44 PM | RobbieF | You're amazing.
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| 09:08:46 PM | VK7HSE | EricKidd, hey :-D
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| 09:08:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - as long as my wife likes it!
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| 09:08:51 PM | EricKidd | the whole one?
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| 09:09:10 PM | RobbieF | invinciblemutant, you should write a book for the back of toilets with that useless knowledge. :)
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| 09:09:12 PM | invinciblemutant | whore !!!! i corrected that typo
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| 09:09:22 PM | EricKidd | the whole whore?
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| 09:09:40 PM | VK7HSE | that's avery strong word (whore) here ...
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| 09:09:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | That is extra money EricKidd!
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| 09:09:57 PM | _Jot_ | I use that book under one of the legs of the table, it is the precise height to keep it steady and not wobbly anymore
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| 09:10:02 PM | EricKidd | Is there a "w" in there?
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| 09:10:46 PM | RobbieF | how did the show look tonight, gang?
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| 09:10:55 PM | VK7HSE | EricKidd, nope but there's a T
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| 09:10:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great RobbieF!
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| 09:11:04 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...just to remind you that chinese ladies may feel that is insulting calling chicks
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| 09:11:29 PM | invinciblemutant | the show was brilliant
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| 09:11:36 PM | _Jot_ | the quality wasn't too great, but watchable, my connection doesn't seem quite okay either, so not sure how it looked for others
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| 09:11:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Do you have a very big female Chinese audiance?
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| 09:12:15 PM | invinciblemutant | Dennis_Kelley: do you mean RobbieF should ignore the minority
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| 09:12:23 PM | invinciblemutant | or ignore those hasnt donated
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| 09:12:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Sounds about right!
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| 09:13:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I guess you can't please everyone at the same time!
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| 09:13:06 PM | _Jot_ | Sorry Dennis_Kelley, we can't talk with you anymore, you didn't donate enough
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| 09:13:42 PM | _Jot_ | ($10 billion dollars later (so about 50 canadian dollars) sorry, not enough just yet
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| 09:13:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | But I do contribute to the show!
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| 09:13:49 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: i dont think the knowledge isnt useless, you will find it useful until you insulted a chinese lady, and got a slap
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| 09:14:20 PM | invinciblemutant | :)
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| 09:14:29 PM | _Jot_ | I think going around and insulting people so your knowledge usually isn't useless, doesn't sound like a usefull strategy
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| 09:14:46 PM | _Jot_ | suddenly, not usually
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| 09:14:48 PM | Dennis_Kelley | It is amazing the range of topics that come on to a tech show!
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| 09:15:27 PM | invinciblemutant | :)
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| 09:15:43 PM | invinciblemutant | sometimes, it is the culture...
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| 09:16:06 PM | VK7HSE | Hmm I'm eating Yoghurt at the moment! (culture)
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| 09:16:19 PM | invinciblemutant | i was ashame having cappucinno after a pasta in italy
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| 09:16:48 PM | invinciblemutant | it is prohibited in italy
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| 09:17:16 PM | RobbieF | ha invinciblemutant :)
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| 09:17:22 PM | invinciblemutant | i thought it was a useless knowledge to know that cappucino is prohibited in the evening
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| 09:17:25 PM | RobbieF | you're SO full of culture VK7HSE
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| 09:17:56 PM | VK7HSE | RobbieF, apparently! :-D
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| 09:18:45 PM | VK7HSE | RobbieF, FYI Clare's all good now! Doc wasn't too concerned but she's having a CT scan later today ...
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| 09:19:02 PM | RobbieF | glad to hear it bro.
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| 09:19:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Well folks! I have to hang some wall paper! Fun for me!!
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| 09:19:15 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: your kid?
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| 09:19:17 PM | _Jot_ | VK7HSE, of course Doc's not concerned, they don't have to feel it :)
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| 09:19:26 PM | RobbieF | have fun dennis_kelley
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| 09:19:40 PM | VK7HSE | _Jot_, he he !! yeah I know.
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| 09:19:54 PM | RobbieF | invinciblemutant what do you mean "your kid"?
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| 09:19:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Thanks RobbieF - Great Show as always!
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| 09:19:59 PM | RobbieF | thanks :)
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| 09:20:08 PM | RobbieF | glad you enjoyed
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| 09:20:38 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF's show is always
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| 09:20:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - its always a joy Learning from your show!
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| 09:20:49 PM | VK7HSE | _Jot_, like when I was going through chemo in 2007 At one point I had a 1/4 inch needle in my spine ... Doc keeps saying STAY STILL O_o
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| 09:20:50 PM | invinciblemutant | just that the quality today isnt as good as before
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| 09:20:57 PM | invinciblemutant | i mean the video quality
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| 09:21:15 PM | robgor | hmm I finally get to watch the show via live stream on my mobile device and what happens Iam going to miss it live next week :(
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| 09:21:46 PM | VK7HSE | robgor, That's been happeneing to me for about the last 18 months ...
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| 09:21:57 PM | VK7HSE | still did today ... :-/
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| 09:23:31 PM | robgor | yeah strange I have tried watching it live before in my wifi dead zone here before and it cuts out all the time. Today was the first time I was able to watch it without cutting out
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| 09:24:03 PM | invinciblemutant | VK7HSE: how the needle helps?
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| 09:24:24 PM | VK7HSE | Ha best way to cut down unwanted traffic to your website disallow all crawlers/spiders and my 404 coun't is now 0 :)
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| 09:24:45 PM | VK7HSE | invinciblemutant, it was to collect spinal fluid for testing...
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