Chat Logs for Episode 261 — #Category5 on /


With 122 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 77 Posts:_Jot_
With 46 Posts:TheChrista
With 38 Posts:Ray___
With 30 Posts:ajamison5579

Chat Logs:

06:58:07 PMgpop7 hello jot
06:58:50 PMRay___ I bet it's open source popcorn
06:58:56 PM_Jot_ see TheChrista, says RobieF, that's a postcard it has things on it too, (points to them) this is one, and that is one and that is one
06:59:02 PM_Jot_ Oh, says TheChrista, that's very interesting
06:59:42 PMOldGuyJim OldGuyJim points back.
06:59:43 PMRay___ when do they come out of the screen house
06:59:54 PM_Jot_ I think they were pointing to letters and RobbieF was teaching TheChrista how to read, but I'm not sure
07:00:00 PMOldGuyJim Now he waves back....
07:00:10 PMRay___ must have big mosquitoes there in canada
07:00:20 PMTheChrista haha, thanks Jot, I'll keep that in mind
07:00:32 PMJaePea i am 100% llinux now no duel booting
07:00:45 PMgpop7 no more talking the movie is starting
07:00:54 PMRay___ cool jaepea
07:01:08 PMgpop7 pass the popcorn
07:01:22 PMinvinciblemutant can see this time is not HD
07:01:28 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, you can always visit www.category5 and watch the videos of old episodes there to remind you what people look like
07:01:28 PMRay___ where's the mac christa
07:01:31 PMinvinciblemutant :)
07:02:25 PM_Jot_ yay Carrie!
07:02:44 PMinvinciblemutant the mac has become longer, now too long to fit into her bag
07:03:00 PMRay___ lol I see
07:03:10 PM_Jot_ I bet it just went bad and rotten, that's what happens with apples
07:03:40 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, will it count that I will be there in spirit, with winning prizes?
07:03:58 PMinvinciblemutant show steve job the longer iphone, he will have a long face in his grave...:P
07:05:02 PMajamison5579 thechrista why do you have a wacom tablet out
07:05:04 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, sorry, your time-travel-device is a year off, it's currently 2012
07:05:20 PMOldGuyJim RobbieF and Christa aka Abbott and Costello....;:-D
07:05:29 PMinvinciblemutant may be mac's time machine works in this way folks
07:05:30 PMgpop7 sounds like whos on first
07:05:37 PMRay___ season shmeason it's all good
07:05:41 PMOldGuyJim Does indeed.
07:05:42 PM_Jot_ no, who's on second, what's on first
07:06:07 PMspectre1055 Hello everyone...
07:06:12 PMinvinciblemutant vulcan's like
07:06:15 PMOldGuyJim I don't know...oh he is on third.
07:06:25 PMT0B33 Terrible show haha
07:06:41 PMU-Al star trek meets the sopranos
07:07:06 PMinvinciblemutant i can see christa is using a writting pad..that is it configured on linux?
07:07:26 PMinvinciblemutant is it a stylus ?
07:07:42 PMT0B33 IS anyone else lagging or is my netbook having a very bad bad day?
07:07:52 PM_Jot_ it seems fine to me T0b33
07:07:53 PMU-Al no lag here
07:07:56 PMRay___ lagging here
07:08:01 PMGuest_6868 no lag here
07:08:03 PMinvinciblemutant no lag here in the uk
07:08:08 PM_Jot_ BSP is a bit laggy, but not sure what that is
07:08:11 PMajamison5579 invinciblemutant its a wacom tablet its used for drawing to the computer as if drawing on paper
07:08:11 PMGarbee Imagine if website packets went through actual snailmail.
07:08:30 PMRay___ course a p4 maching
07:08:36 PMinvinciblemutant is it easy to configure on ubuntu?
07:08:42 PMT0B33 brb guys
07:08:42 PM_Jot_ hi Guests, if you want to change your name, you can! Type /nick newnickname where newnickname is your new nickname
07:08:45 PMGuest_6868 how change name?
07:08:49 PMRay___ linux mint 11
07:09:00 PMgpop7 not laggy here chicago
07:09:20 PM_Jot_ eewww now I'm seasick from all the swaying
07:09:23 PMRay___ Arizona here
07:09:33 PM_Jot_ great job Stevo!
07:09:37 PMRay___ 102f hot
07:09:52 PM_Jot_ If the name was already taken and it kicks you out, just add a _ or something next time, or use a different one
07:09:55 PMinvinciblemutant perhaps robbie can talk about the walcom writing pad as it is a new gadget in the show
07:10:05 PMinvinciblemutant interested to know...
07:10:10 PMGarbee Every b-day is a milestone.
07:10:12 PMgpop7 glad she didnt go ninja on you
07:10:31 PMStevo just to early in morning here to think
07:10:35 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you can't hear from us! We're showing on your eyes, not in your ears!
07:10:40 PMajamison5579 invinvleblemutant i think its Christa's wacom tablet not Robbie's
07:10:43 PMnimi_erkki Speaking about Star Trek: "A warp drive to achieve faster-than-light travel — a concept popularized in television's Star Trek — may not be as unrealistic as once thought, scientists say."
07:10:56 PMTheChrista I thought about it gpop7...thought it might not be show appropriate to take out the host
07:11:00 PMinvinciblemutant every bday also bring one nearer to gravestone, unfortunately
07:11:09 PMRay___ what was the girls name that always did the weather?
07:11:18 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, it's the end of the season, so somebody has to die... go for it!
07:11:20 PMTheChrista The tablet is the studio's tablet. I have one exactly like's wonderful!
07:11:21 PMT0B33 Interesting i think my motherboard is cracked
07:11:45 PMgpop7 thank you the christa for not doing that
07:11:55 PMajamison5579 TheChrista why does the studio have one ? no one can draw there but you and Rachel lol
07:12:59 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: why not give out one to home audience?
07:13:30 PMRay___ what is he giving out food
07:13:42 PM_Jot_ there may be refreshments next week
07:14:01 PMinvinciblemutant hopefully the food will not make hair falling
07:14:43 PM_Jot_ everybody will get free blindness from the glare of the lights from Robbie's bald head
07:15:28 PMJaePea i live in be there =[
07:15:38 PMRay___ I thought that was answered
07:15:55 PMRay___ is video gone
07:15:59 PMinvinciblemutant at least he has a nice head shape, really look good bald instead of having moustache atop his ears
07:15:59 PMT0B33 _Jot_ Your soooo mean! haha
07:16:05 PM_Jot_ Ray__ it's still there
07:16:17 PMRay___ ok got it again
07:16:27 PM_Jot_ t0b33, thank you, thank you :)
07:16:36 PMGarbee Codecanyon is awesome too.
07:16:44 PMT0B33 _Jot_ Your welcome , your welcome :)
07:16:48 PMRay___ on hughes net service here at work, dont buy there service
07:16:51 PMGarbee RobbieF, Evanto has Photodune for stock photos!
07:17:10 PMgpop7 careful jot we will catch you in the cross fire with the light
07:17:27 PM_Jot_ I'm always glad with the extra light, saves me a lot of money in electricity
07:17:53 PM_Jot_ that's why I always watch the backstagepass, it has the bright lights and nice scenery
07:18:05 PM_Jot_ lately it even comes with art
07:19:20 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, would you say you are getting old, or just well-seasoned?
07:19:28 PMGarbee Too many chatrooms...
07:19:40 PMT0B33 Remastersys is the answer!
07:20:11 PMGuest_7387 RobbieF is a young pup
07:21:32 PM_Jot_ OEM with harddrives just means that it's a standard harddrive that was made by one of the standard manufacturers for a computer-company, so you can't find those since you're not a computer-company, but you can normally use any normal ones
07:21:32 PMU-Al Hello bull422
07:21:52 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, they do still make IDE harddrives, mostly with a 500GB max size though
07:22:12 PMT0B33 Sd cards is the answer
07:22:22 PMgpop7 check microcenter
07:22:30 PMinvinciblemutant i second T0B33
07:22:31 PMajamison5579 SD cards are not the answer for long term storage
07:22:38 PMJaePea tigerdirect and newegg r good
07:22:44 PMgpop7 or newegg
07:22:51 PMbull422 Hey U-Al
07:22:52 PMT0B33 I dont have hds in any computer and it worked out well
07:23:13 PMT0B33 Hey bull422 :)
07:23:44 PMGarbee Co-Host strike!
07:23:49 PMbull422 Hey TOB33
07:24:08 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, you will get a 100% pay-increase next week from 0 cad to 0 cad
07:24:13 PMOldGuyJim Volunteers get paid. Whow...I need to retire and become a volunteer.
07:24:25 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, because of the new season
07:24:34 PMGarbee Robbie can do some awesome greenscreen stuff with telecast to have the remote co-host floating beside him so it would look like a normal show.
07:25:58 PMinvinciblemutant get steve balmer to the show head to head with robbie will be interesting...
07:26:03 PMRay___ I'm gonna get a hair cut in case they choose me!
07:26:17 PMajamison5579 LOL Inviciblemutant I would pay to see that
07:26:18 PMinvinciblemutant bald duo
07:26:30 PMajamison5579 ok well maybe not but it would be entertaining
07:27:00 PMinvinciblemutant but make robbie will never take a vacation
07:27:12 PMGuest_7387 Has Robbie said he like his new home
07:27:25 PM_Jot_ RobbieF is actually CGI, he is really in the tropics on holiday
07:27:28 PMU-Al omg
07:27:33 PMU-Al lol
07:27:56 PMJaePea lol
07:28:07 PMOldGuyJim Oops.. By for now.
07:28:09 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: it has been made your own home by default
07:28:14 PM_Jot_ RobbieF can't replace the cohost because he can't kick them under the table if they remote in, or poke them with a big stick
07:28:36 PMDennis_Kelley We are RobbieF Friends!
07:28:37 PMRay___ Oh shucks, save me money on a new haircut
07:29:04 PMajamison5579 I was here long before that
07:29:06 PMajamison5579 lol
07:29:07 PMJaePea hi u-al =] ltns
07:29:10 PM_Jot_ yay! I'm so old I'm furniture!
07:29:25 PMT0B33 _Jot_ you fossil! haha
07:29:35 PMDennis_Kelley Still not Longer than M.A.S.H.
07:29:47 PMU-Al Hi JaePea
07:29:48 PMajamison5579 _jot_ I see wood that needs widdling
07:29:50 PMajamison5579 lol
07:30:08 PMGarbee Never.
07:30:10 PM_Jot_ Don't chop off my legs! even if they aren't the same size
07:30:23 PMGarbee They are doing that just to have the patent.
07:30:23 PMinvinciblemutant when a real saw will be used in gaming?
07:30:33 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, he takes himself off-camera so it's only you on screen
07:30:58 PMGarbee I'm out see everyone later.
07:31:08 PM_Jot_ have a nice week Garbee
07:32:05 PMajamison5579 Robbief is living vicariously through the scents left by others
07:32:15 PM_Jot_ TheChrista likes to be smarterer
07:32:18 PMinvinciblemutant lol...old books with nose bogs
07:32:19 PMRay___ omg lol
07:32:45 PMRay___ is ther more news?
07:33:22 PMinvinciblemutant there is no point having so many book in a single gadget
07:33:31 PMinvinciblemutant because you can only read a book at a time
07:33:57 PMajamison5579 I have a hard time with physical books due to my ADD
07:34:12 PMajamison5579 its easier for me to stay focused on a digital version
07:34:15 PMinvinciblemutant what is so special about iphone5?
07:34:22 PMajamison5579 Nothing
07:34:25 PMRay___ nothing
07:34:26 PMT0B33 ajamison5579 i know how you feel
07:34:26 PMspectre1055 Ha Ha...
07:34:55 PMT0B33 invinciblemutant they make good paper weights :)
07:35:15 PM_Jot_ I bet RobbieF had a lot of fun finding the pictures for todays show
07:35:46 PMajamison5579 why does ricker look high in that photo
07:36:11 PM_Jot_ cause they put him higher so it is easier to inject him
07:36:11 PMRay___ I'm going to pour me a cup of coffee, and wait for the rest of the news
07:36:43 PMinvinciblemutant get poked for no reason...
07:36:56 PMajamison5579 a Canadianism
07:36:58 PM_Jot_ don't look at TheChrista when you say there are bad people, RobbieF! She's nice! Mostly
07:37:18 PMRobbieF-Tablet :-)
07:37:56 PMajamison5579 Robbief is that still the iPad or a different tablet
07:38:58 PMalbertr ;^)
07:38:59 PMGuest_7387 yeah Cordery Electric
07:39:02 PMRay___ It doe not work on linux
07:39:06 PMRay___ does
07:39:12 PMajamison5579 Netflix is great if you want old tv shows
07:39:23 PMajamison5579 they are so slow with getting new movies/shows
07:39:44 PMinvinciblemutant ajamison5579: netflix is for old people?
07:40:11 PMT0B33 Has anyone started watching H+? It rocks!
07:40:13 PMajamison5579 no its for people who like older shows or are willing to wait 1+ years for a movie to hit netflix
07:40:55 PMinvinciblemutant how about startrek?
07:40:56 PMRay___ it works for me cuz im old and watch breaking bad
07:41:03 PMajamison5579 I have a netflix subscription but some movies like Battleship are not on netflix
07:41:06 PM_Jot_ Newsflash: RobbieF is secretly a vampire
07:41:13 PMspectre1055 I have and enjoy Netflix, but I don't like the fact they won't allow streaming from Linux computers...
07:41:15 PMT0B33 Star trek sucks!
07:41:33 PMajamison5579 Trekflix the Netflix spin off for everything trek
07:41:40 PMajamison5579 lol
07:41:53 PMbull422_ I think they have Deepspace 9
07:42:15 PMinvinciblemutant iconia? is not acer?
07:42:16 PMbull422_ Android rocks!
07:42:21 PMRay___ ? what is a recomended distro for teens using linux for the first time?
07:42:30 PMT0B33 Zorin
07:42:50 PMRay___ writing this down
07:43:00 PMT0B33 Linux Mint
07:43:05 PMinvinciblemutant how about the battery life RobbieF-Tablet
07:43:12 PMT0B33 So many choices it messes with your brains
07:43:28 PMT0B33 Depends on your needs
07:43:36 PMbull422_ Zorin is ideal for newbies
07:43:38 PMinvinciblemutant writting pad for TheChrista
07:43:46 PMinvinciblemutant that is her tablet right now
07:43:58 PMRay___ more or less everyday needs, school work and the like
07:44:23 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: you talking about ipad indirectly...retina display
07:44:27 PMajamison5579 IPad changes very little from one generation to the other
07:44:32 PMbull422_ My Kindle Fire will only show Backstage Pass on the Podcast
07:44:34 PMspectre1055 But, the IPAD is locked down and the various Android tabletsare open, more or less...
07:45:32 PMajamison5579 Robbief there is a cool kids mode app you can download for android that you can let your kids play kid safe games while locking them into the software so they can not fool with other stuff
07:45:37 PMajamison5579 I use it pretty cool
07:46:22 PMT0B33 dolphin i think
07:46:56 PMTheChrista invinciblemutant, I wasn't referring to ipad directly either. As a Mac lover, I do love the products....however, I would be looking at any of the tablets with a high contrast, sharp screen
07:47:54 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: nonetheless, that hints ipad...:P
07:47:59 PMT0B33 Pcmanfm
07:48:05 PM_Jot_ Midnight Commander
07:48:09 PMajamison5579 thechrista its good to stay open you can find a whole slew of different tablets some everybit as good as the iPad in terms of resolution
07:48:49 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: this question is specifically for you. How to make a window on mac to stay one top of all other windows
07:48:55 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - TheChrista Get it right!
07:49:22 PMinvinciblemutant we accept american/antario accents
07:49:24 PMajamison5579 Rash-a-Hana i think is how its pronounced
07:49:44 PMajamison5579 Yom-Ki-Pour
07:50:32 PMRay___ I wish i could write like that
07:51:29 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, it wasn't even on stun, let alone kill! Geez! What kind of security-guard are you?
07:51:37 PMalbertr samba4
07:52:18 PMRay___ huh?
07:52:26 PMalbertr all pc's on same workgroup
07:52:57 PMT0B33 Ah speaking of CUPs mine is empty....
07:53:20 PMinvinciblemutant via ipp
07:54:05 PMTheChrista invinvinlemutant...good question, I've never thought about this as being an issue as I have corners set up on my system. I always have at least 4 programs going at once so I'm constantly flipping between programs and just hitting the corners to show all programs in use
07:54:25 PMTheChrista I can look and see if I can figure this out for you though, I've never looked into it before. Good question!
07:54:55 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, we know you are really RobbieF in disguise, cause only RobbieF would say something like that :P
07:55:03 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: Thanks for your kindness
07:55:21 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, or maybe you are infected by him or something
07:55:25 PMTheChrista Jot, I can be just as nice as Robbie
07:55:30 PMTheChrista haha, it is possible
07:55:37 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF-Tablet: Samba does share printers afaik
07:56:03 PMinvinciblemutant via microsoft files and printers sharing protocol
07:56:09 PMalbertr Like
07:56:30 PMinvinciblemutant that install samba4
07:56:47 PMinvinciblemutant not sure if it is version 4 or 3
07:57:07 PMinvinciblemutant happy birthday
07:57:27 PMU-Al i hear music
07:57:46 PMalbertr me to
07:58:02 PMT0B33 Compiz does not mix with cinnamon very well i dont think itried it
07:58:30 PMinvinciblemutant compiz --replace ?
07:58:30 PMYazid1965 lol
07:58:39 PMalbertr LINUX ROCKS!
07:58:40 PMRay___ Nice show thanks cat5 and to all a safe rest of the day!
07:58:48 PMStevo bye all till next week
07:58:53 PMinvinciblemutant sudo apt-get install ccsm
07:58:57 PMTheChrista thanks Ray, till next time....cheers!
07:59:02 PMalbertr happy anversary
07:59:14 PMbull422 Great show
07:59:15 PMT0B33 Happy Birthday cat5 :D
07:59:15 PM_Jot_ thanks for being there RobbieF and TheChrista
07:59:17 PMRay___ clap clap clap
07:59:22 PMYazid1965 Good Night All and Cool Beans
07:59:27 PMalbertr ;^)
07:59:28 PMinvinciblemutant if each other a bday kiss
07:59:30 PMspectre1055 Thanks for another great show RobbieF & Christa!
07:59:32 PMinvinciblemutant hooray
07:59:39 PMT0B33 Thanks for a great show RobbieF and TheChrista
07:59:52 PMT0B33 and all the other co-hosts
07:59:52 PMgpop7 good show robbief and the christa. have a great week. goodnight everyone.
08:00:14 PM_Jot_ oh, this is the part where RobbieF gets a lot of names and TheChrista gets none
08:00:29 PMTheChrista thanks for joining us folks!
08:00:31 PMRay___ hey what was the girls name that always did the weather?
08:00:39 PMT0B33 Good night everyone
08:00:43 PMTheChrista It's been a fun season, BUT next season will be EVEN BETTER!
08:00:56 PMspectre1055 see ya
08:00:57 PMRobbieF Ray___ that was Christy Burton
08:01:00 PMRobbieF :)
08:01:03 PMgpop7 thats all folks
08:01:16 PMTheChrista WHAT? How could the show be better you ask? Well, it just will be, so stay tuned
08:01:25 PMRay___ Oh thanks, i can see her face but brain farted on her name
08:01:46 PMGuest_4988 this show needs content
08:02:21 PM_Jot_ if you have suggestions, ideas, questions and so on, feel free to email Guest_4988
08:02:28 PMRay___ they have a place on the site for comments, they appreciate it
08:02:36 PM__JimBobMedia__ Great Show as Always !!!
08:02:42 PMRobbieF Thank you everyone :)
08:03:09 PMRobbieF Category5 Tech TV content is very largely influenced by the requests of its viewers, Guest_4988 - we welcome your requests.
08:03:23 PMRay___ great work robf keep it up, watching from arizona 102f thats for christi burton
08:03:42 PM_Jot_ I wonder what the weather will be like for next week
08:03:55 PMinvinciblemutant i can see robbie has put on a lot of weight from season to season
08:04:01 PM_Jot_ it's important for the show, because if there's hurricanes and such then it's not easy to get to Barrie
08:04:14 PMTheChrista oh my goodness invinciblemutant! you're supposed to say nice things
08:04:20 PMTheChrista like....robbie is looker wiser year to year
08:04:33 PMinvinciblemutant it is indeed
08:05:23 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: put on weight does not mean getting uglier, please get it right
08:05:42 PMinvinciblemutant he is getting better looking indeed...ask his wife
08:06:02 PMDennis_Kelley Thank You! RobbieF
08:06:07 PM_Jot_ most women gain weight every year too, because they carry more and more in their purses each year, without emptying out stuff from the years before
08:06:32 PMRobbieF Thanks Ray__ much appreciated. Nice to have you here.
08:06:56 PMinvinciblemutant i was shocked to see robbie was so skinny in earlier season
08:07:12 PMTheChrista I agree invinciblemustant, just saying, I'm sure Robbie would like to hear things like..."Robbie, your head just gets sparklier year to year"
08:07:26 PMRobbieF haha, well, thanks SO much for noticing, invinciblemutant...
08:07:27 PMRobbieF lol
08:07:44 PMsmittysmit guin2ent
08:07:53 PM_Jot_ I heard people gain weight from getting kids, so it must be from getting all those kids
08:08:08 PMTheChrista Jot, I don't add stuff to my purse, Brad takes advantage of the fact that he always has a walking carrying case around to put his stuff into, I always end up with his sunglasses, his wallet, receipts
08:08:21 PMTheChrista For christmas this year he will be getting a purse of his own....a pink one
08:08:22 PMinvinciblemutant it is just about the right weight for man...dont try to beat eric..shh..he is not around today
08:08:56 PMGarbee Did I miss anything good?
08:09:12 PM_Jot_ if I need to carry stuff I usually use a backpack, but that isn't always useful in crowded areas, so purses can be useful :)
08:09:29 PMRobbieF Gave away a set of MTG cards in mint condition circa 1996.
08:09:44 PM_Jot_ Yay! Jot wins as usual
08:10:49 PMGarbee RobbieF, Don't joke like that.
08:10:53 PMGarbee Plus you left your work system on
08:10:54 PMinvinciblemutant i am a a bit overweight by BMI...i concern about
08:11:42 PMinvinciblemutant surprisingly not really when look in front of mirror
08:11:43 PMinvinciblemutant lol
08:12:12 PM_Jot_ I'm concerned about weight! I weigh much too little
08:12:28 PMinvinciblemutant how to keep so slim TheChrista
08:13:35 PMDennis_Kelley Anyone work with SQL databases at all?
08:13:51 PM_Jot_ almost everybody does these days :)
08:13:53 PMinvinciblemutant what SQL database? which dbms?
08:13:59 PMTheChrista I'm afraid all I can say is that it's mostly genetics. But I do 45 min's of cardio 5 days a week and eat well
08:14:05 PMTheChrista Plus beer, beer keeps you slim
08:14:09 PMinvinciblemutant most of us have experience with mysql i guess
08:14:54 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: That is interesting to know beers keep one slim
08:15:34 PMinvinciblemutant What brand? what is the daily consumption to play the trick?
08:16:30 PMTheChrista haha, well....I usually only get beer after the show, or if Brad's having a drink at night. But all those hops and barley and grains keep you healthy you know
08:16:36 PMTheChrista must be healthy
08:16:53 PMGarbee I don't drink alchohol.
08:17:15 PMGarbee I'm scared of the effects on my body.
08:17:23 PMTheChrista well then for you my friend, there are non-alcoholic beers....which generally don't taste very good
08:17:35 PMGarbee TheChrista, Water tastes pretty good.
08:17:43 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: how about the alcohol? clinical proof says alcohol is toxic
08:17:58 PM_Jot_ I sometimes eat soup, which contains wine, and it's tasty and I don't get fat from it unfortunatly
08:18:02 PM_Jot_ so wine can be nice too
08:18:45 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: if you only get beers after the show, then it seems that RobbieF is the one who keeps you slim all these while
08:18:52 PMTheChrista Ah, well to be completely honest, I don't drink that often
08:19:16 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, I have it from reliable sources that you drink every day, and you eat every day too!
08:19:36 PMGarbee TheChrista, All alcoholics say that. It is ok.
08:19:51 PMTheChrista I'll have a couple drinks in the week, and then a couple on the weekend if there is a get together with friends....but generally I don't drink very much
08:20:05 PMTheChrista I never used to drink at all, so it's a newer acquired thing I reckon
08:20:41 PMinvinciblemutant it seems that it is RobbieF's fault showing you the evil
08:21:18 PMinvinciblemutant beers: the evils that keep one slim
08:24:41 PM_Jot_ I am glad RobbieF and TheChrista are there, with and without beers
08:24:52 PMinvinciblemutant Is there anything on mac or linux that show the physical condition of a hard disk
08:25:08 PMinvinciblemutant like showing bad sectors
08:25:22 PM_Jot_ most harddrives have build in smart-tests and that will show the condition and do tests etc
08:25:34 PM_Jot_ look up smartctl etc
08:25:59 PMinvinciblemutant it scans and mark bad sectors on disk?
08:26:20 PM_Jot_ yep, you can do a short-test that randomly tests stuff, but also a long test that will test the entire surface
08:26:46 PMTheChrista Yes invinciblemutant, I blame Robbie for a great many things
08:26:59 PMTheChrista when in doubt, blame Robbie...that's my motto
08:27:12 PMRobbieF-Tablet Well, i enjoyed myself tonight.... hope you guys did too.
08:27:31 PM_Jot_ the manufacturer of the harddrive also have a program on their website that you can download and run, but often thats for windows, not specifically linux or mac, but there are seperate cds and usb-versions often that you can boot from to run those
08:28:03 PMinvinciblemutant i suspect my 320gb drive has developed some bad sector
08:28:29 PMinvinciblemutant i am formatting it now on mac, it has 0.02 Gb lost in capacity
08:28:43 PMinvinciblemutant capacity: 320.07
08:28:49 PMinvinciblemutant available: 320.05
08:29:10 PM_Jot_ that doesn't say bad sectors, that means it has used some space for the filesystem, to store where stuff is
08:29:26 PM_Jot_ but testing the harddrive is never bad
08:29:27 PMinvinciblemutant and used 8.8MB
08:29:50 PMinvinciblemutant i had some problem with it when copying files...stop half way with io error
08:30:00 PMinvinciblemutant i suspect something is worng
08:30:16 PMinvinciblemutant my need to send back for waranty of the problem persist
08:30:27 PM_Jot_ normally, the harddrive will automaticly detect bad sectors and not use those anymore and instead use some of the spare space (with SMART I mentioned)
08:30:54 PM_Jot_ if it does that however, it will not report anything (unless you ask for a report) because it will just use the same space
08:31:11 PMinvinciblemutant will SMART mark that, i thought it just detect and give early wanring the disk will fail at any point from now
08:31:53 PM_Jot_ SMART won't just detect it, but also automaticly stop using the bad sectors and using other spare ones that are reserved for those occasions
08:32:12 PMinvinciblemutant it is an external drive connected via usb
08:32:24 PMinvinciblemutant is it SMART guarded too?
08:32:48 PM_Jot_ When it has used up all that reserved space, only then it starts to take away from the normal reported space because it really can't use that sector or the replacement-space anymore
08:33:33 PM_Jot_ so these days, if a harddrive starts to report it has less space than it had before, or it starts to report bad sectors, it means it is already so bad that it has failed
08:33:40 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: I accidentally used up my hard drive space on my mac today, i lost a few paragraph of my writing
08:34:13 PMinvinciblemutant it is bad that mac did not tell me that "THE DISK IS NOW FULL"
08:34:21 PMTheChrista what are you keeping on your Mac that uses up so much space?
08:34:24 PM_Jot_ if it is USB, you will have to download and use the program from the manufacturer, smart doesn't go through USB most of the time
08:34:32 PMinvinciblemutant virtualbox...18GB
08:34:35 PMTheChrista Do you backup your files? Or just keep everything on your Mac?
08:34:37 PMinvinciblemutant just move that out
08:34:48 PMTheChrista ah, fair enough! What's your harddrive
08:34:54 PMTheChrista sorry, what size?
08:35:27 PMinvinciblemutant I have my most recent file synced with dropbox, because the disk is full, it keeps everything in memory, not written to disk, so even dropbox is not updated...
08:35:35 PMinvinciblemutant 120gb
08:36:39 PMTheChrista only 120? Do you have SSD?
08:36:41 PMinvinciblemutant in most occasions, i have backup of all versions in dropbox, synced to the server, but not this time
08:36:48 PMinvinciblemutant yes SSD...
08:36:53 PMinvinciblemutant macbook pro dude
08:36:59 PMTheChrista ah, which explains the smaller hard drive
08:37:03 PMinvinciblemutant this year version
08:37:09 PMinvinciblemutant it runs much faster
08:37:20 PMTheChrista Well, nice that there's some mac fans out there besides me.
08:37:21 PMinvinciblemutant are you still using the rotating disk?
08:37:27 PMTheChrista nope, SSD
08:37:43 PMGarbee Well, Night everyone.
08:37:49 PM_Jot_ night Garbee
08:38:25 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: I dont really very very fancy it, just told myself, give it a try
08:38:37 PMinvinciblemutant give it a chance to be in my life...:P
08:39:02 PMinvinciblemutant still like linux so be honest i like the hardware engineering...
08:39:25 PMinvinciblemutant it is elegant, sturdy
08:39:34 PMinvinciblemutant i like the hardware more
08:40:10 PMinvinciblemutant it is a shame to tell you i have macport installed, cant live without linxu based commands
08:40:14 PMinvinciblemutant and programs
08:41:20 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: I answered my question:‘always-on-top’/2008/07/09
08:42:22 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: it is the first time in my life paying for os upgrade...
08:42:27 PMinvinciblemutant i am on mountain lion now
08:42:50 PMinvinciblemutant dont see the point of paying after upgrading
08:45:37 PMTheChrista See, you don't even need me!
08:45:59 PM_Jot_ we do need you TheChrista! Not as much as Brad, but still
08:46:03 PMTheChrista haha, I did an upgrade to Lion not too long ago, and then they came out with Mountain Lion! so now I'll have to upgrade again
08:46:44 PMinvinciblemutant do you need to pay again if you friend upgraded, can you use the same installer
08:46:47 PMinvinciblemutant is it legal so?
08:47:20 PMTheChrista haha, thanks Jot. Until Robbie kicks me off the show for calling him mean names on air, I'll stick around
08:47:50 PM_Jot_ Robbie? hmmm I remember that name from somewhere
08:49:08 PMRobbieF-Tablet :-)
08:49:16 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: afloat does not seem to work
08:49:25 PMTheChrista Haha, oh Jot
08:50:52 PM_Jot_ by the way RobbieF, I can see the bistro-scene now, it looks interesting, with a lot going on, at least a lot of objects
08:54:35 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: how to full uninstall a program in mac
09:01:54 PMTheChrista sorry, you want to know how to uninstall a mac program?
09:04:53 PM_Jot_ I know how to install a big mac, and how to uninstall it too, I think to uninstall a mac program you just drag it in the trash, but I am not entirely sure about new macs
09:05:33 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: yes
09:05:48 PMinvinciblemutant install afloat, it is not in the applications folder
09:05:57 PMinvinciblemutant installed afloat
09:09:39 PMTheChrista most programs come with an unistall counterpart in the applications foler
09:09:55 PMRobbieF-Tablet Yeah i like the painting jot... kinda cafe like
09:10:17 PMTheChrista folder, sorry. for those that don't, there's a great app called appcleaner, you just drag the file into there and it finds all the related file bits to that program and with your approval, wipes them from your computer
09:10:42 PM_Jot_ poor RobbieF, surrounded by keyboards, and he has to use a screen to type
09:12:17 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: It is not there unfortunately for this program
09:12:21 PMRobbieF-Tablet Ha
09:12:30 PMinvinciblemutant this is where mac falls short
09:13:01 PMTheChrista then look up AppCleaner, it's a great little app
09:13:19 PMinvinciblemutant
09:13:22 PMinvinciblemutant will try that now
09:13:34 PMinvinciblemutant btw, do you have any other goodies for mac that I should not miss?
09:15:36 PMTheChrista oh, that's a good question. Everything I use, I've used so much that it just seems standard
09:17:00 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: Ok...thanks for tips on mac
09:17:09 PMinvinciblemutant i gonna hit the sack
09:17:13 PMinvinciblemutant 2am now
09:17:20 PMinvinciblemutant bye...see you next time
09:17:27 PMTheChrista The only thing that pops into my head at the moment is that if you do any programming for websites, don't use Dreamweaver, it's complete bloatwear. Sublime is a beautiful, free program (although they do prompt you to buy) that works great for coding
09:17:53 PMinvinciblemutant cool tip
09:18:05 PMinvinciblemutant till next time...good nite everyone
09:18:06 PMinvinciblemutant bye
09:19:31 PMRobbieF-Tablet Night bro
09:20:09 PMTheChrista thanks, invinciblemutant see you next time


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