| 06:58:19 PM | _Jot_ | 2minutes, quickly, look busy everyone
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| 06:58:21 PM | T0B33 | Ladies and Gentlemen! Boys and Girls! How do everyone? xD
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| 06:58:29 PM | T0B33 | Lol Hi all :)
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| 06:58:31 PM | _Jot_ | hi T0b33
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| 06:58:33 PM | albertr | where is Spiderman?
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| 06:58:38 PM | albertr | :)
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| 06:58:45 PM | tic-toc | should we be taking donations for someone a razor ?
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| 06:58:47 PM | _Jot_ | Spiderman is hanging from the ceiling
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| 06:58:52 PM | GWG | You guys all having fun, I'm not
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| 06:58:53 PM | T0B33 | Hi _Jot_ :)
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| 06:59:02 PM | _Jot_ | sorry to hear it GWG
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| 06:59:07 PM | gpop7 | Hello everyone.
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| 06:59:15 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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| 06:59:24 PM | _Jot_ | hi people
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| 06:59:24 PM | albertr | Hi gpop7
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| 06:59:54 PM | gpop7 | hi albertr
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| 06:59:55 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | hey everyone
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| 06:59:59 PM | _Jot_ | okay, time to hit play on tape!
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| 07:00:18 PM | albertr | hi EightMilesFromTJ
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| 07:00:34 PM | gpop7 | hello eightm
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| 07:00:54 PM | gpop7 | hello scorpio55
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| 07:01:49 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you mean it is time for cardigans and getting warm?
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| 07:02:44 PM | T0B33 | I would be good at writing books. I got a gift called ADHD xD
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| 07:03:51 PM | tic-toc | taking helment cam to DR?
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| 07:04:01 PM | _Jot_ | camera-glasses
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| 07:04:41 PM | tic-toc | yeah thats it. too funny
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| 07:05:08 PM | albertr | anyone of you got Nexus 4 ?
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| 07:06:01 PM | _Jot_ | hello Bailey J Thompson
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| 07:06:57 PM | pyrosrock | hey guys
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| 07:07:07 PM | _Jot_ | hi pyrosrock
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| 07:08:11 PM | tic-toc | booo
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| 07:08:13 PM | albertr | Hi pyrosrock
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| 07:09:10 PM | tic-toc | no talking animals allowed :(
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| 07:09:37 PM | troy74 | been awhile since i read a good gerbil book
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| 07:11:00 PM | tic-toc | target practice ..lol
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| 07:11:24 PM | rusty9090 | gerbil... eat that sandwich!
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| 07:12:13 PM | _Jot_ | gerbil, stick your head out the hole on top so you can get hit again and again and again.
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| 07:12:16 PM | _Jot_ | Oh wait, different game, sorry
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| 07:14:09 PM | GoodGuy | We used to have 7 guinea pigs.... Patriotic Pigs :-)
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| 07:15:08 PM | GoodGuy | Guinea Puigs want equal billing!
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| 07:15:12 PM | GoodGuy | Pigs
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| 07:15:17 PM | troy74 | gerbils uhfortunate trek to the boa room
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| 07:15:22 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, nice of you to dress up as a gerbil for tonight by the way
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| 07:15:45 PM | GoodGuy | gerbils meet Pete the Python
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| 07:16:34 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, vermin! smash it! smash! smash! smash!
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| 07:16:40 PM | tic-toc | put the cat in the closet
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| 07:16:41 PM | GoodGuy | long tail
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| 07:17:00 PM | troy74 | he looks like a diva,brown pellets only
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| 07:17:36 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, how many gerbils does she have?
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| 07:18:00 PM | GoodGuy | Bailey is the newest color in Kitchenaid mixers.. trivia fact
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| 07:18:21 PM | _Jot_ | is that before, or after you use them goodguy?
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| 07:18:43 PM | GoodGuy | Before.. I watch a lot of QVC
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| 07:19:54 PM | GoodGuy | I am going to show this to our daughter.. she is a fairly good writer and loved guinea pigs
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| 07:20:41 PM | gpop7 | GooGood idea Bailey. May you be blessed with your project.
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| 07:21:18 PM | tic-toc | Good luck to you....
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| 07:21:27 PM | gpop7 | Sorry Sorry ,Good idea
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| 07:21:58 PM | tic-toc | watch out for pellets Hillary
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| 07:22:34 PM | gpop7 | dontwhy am i double typing
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| 07:23:01 PM | gpop7 | problem with keyboard
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| 07:24:12 PM | tic-toc | what money ? lol
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| 07:24:41 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you breaking things by accident from taking apart everything, how is that different from normal?
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| 07:25:15 PM | pyrosrock | is it just me or is the chat room super slow today?
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| 07:26:06 PM | _Jot_ | people are just disgusted by my humour and turned away from the room I think
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| 07:26:19 PM | tic-toc | Can the chat room fix the NHL ? :(
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| 07:26:37 PM | albertr | M$ ?????
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| 07:28:22 PM | rusty9090 | double your housefires with the new driver.
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| 07:28:55 PM | _Jot_ | darn, this nvidia-driver doesn't do anything! it must be broken
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| 07:29:06 PM | _Jot_ | but Jot, you are using an AMD based videocard
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| 07:29:17 PM | _Jot_ | well, RobbieF didn't say anything about not using it with that!
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| 07:29:39 PM | troy74 | i have been using an invisibility cloak at work for years
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| 07:29:55 PM | _Jot_ | how, troy74?
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| 07:30:13 PM | troy74 | turn off the lights
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| 07:30:30 PM | _Jot_ | newsflash: Hillary thinks we're amazing. Thanks Hillary!
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| 07:31:11 PM | tic-toc | who?
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| 07:31:25 PM | albertr | Netflix needs Silverligt RIGHT? another M$
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| 07:31:44 PM | chrisreich | Hillary - what ever happened to the category 5 live fish?
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| 07:32:08 PM | tic-toc | WHAAAT
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| 07:32:09 PM | rusty9090 | Rythmbox can copy to ipods =)
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| 07:32:42 PM | tic-toc | play on linux wont work?
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| 07:34:07 PM | Guest_5640 | rusty9090 rythmbox works great
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| 07:34:15 PM | Hillary | good question...i am lookin at that fish as we speak.
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| 07:34:21 PM | Hillary | not in line of sight of camera or BSP
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| 07:34:58 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, we mean the fish, not RobbieF who is weak as a fish
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| 07:35:04 PM | RobbieF | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_iPod_managers
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| 07:35:08 PM | T0B33 | my hard drive still has not died. Any one know why? haha its stopped clicking all of a sudden too. RobbieF i think this HD has been in the tardis and its got the time lords regeneration ability :O
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| 07:35:48 PM | albertr | I agree RobbieF
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| 07:35:56 PM | _Jot_ | T0b33, it is possible it had some spare sectors, and the part where the clicking happened died, and it doesn't use that anymore but the spare sectors
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| 07:36:29 PM | _Jot_ | make sure you have backups, and do a SMART-test or use the test from the manufacturer to check it
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| 07:36:39 PM | T0B33 | Is that True RobbieF what _Jot_ said?
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| 07:37:25 PM | iamboriskarloff | Media Monkey works great for me - but it's still Windows only.
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| 07:37:35 PM | T0B33 | My hard drive has stopped clicking and it has not died after 7 months RobbieF? So confused
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| 07:38:04 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF he needs to make sure he is using the right disk
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| 07:38:12 PM | T0B33 | No crashes its like its regenerated :S
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| 07:38:27 PM | T0B33 | I thought if the heads are ruined it cant just fix its self
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| 07:38:41 PM | T0B33 | bad sectors on disk i can get my head around :S
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| 07:38:50 PM | tic-toc | I will
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| 07:38:56 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF if it is a PPC devise it needs the PPC disk
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| 07:38:58 PM | GoodGuy | Where is Christa when you need her :-)
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| 07:39:31 PM | _Jot_ | it depends on why it clicks, it can click because a part of the disk is bad, and it moves back to the beginning to reset itsself and that can be the clicking you hear
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| 07:40:31 PM | _Jot_ | then when it stops using that, it can read things correctly, and doesn't have to move to the beginning to reset anymore, so no more clicking
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| 07:41:20 PM | T0B33 | RobbieF can you give me your opinion? I will never trust this drive but its odd how its not dead :S
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| 07:41:36 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF is there a database?
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| 07:41:46 PM | pyrosrock | like a online one?
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| 07:41:47 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ it does one click when i power my la[top down
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| 07:41:55 PM | T0B33 | laptop*
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| 07:42:08 PM | T0B33 | Only a small click tho and its one click only just click and off
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| 07:42:13 PM | rusty9090 | my portable drive clicks when i shut it down too
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| 07:42:21 PM | GoodGuy | If you read Yahoo messages, someone uses strange variations to bypass Yahoo filters
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| 07:42:38 PM | _Jot_ | T0b33, yeah, when you turn off your laptop, it will move the heads to a special area where movement doesn't crash the heads against the disk
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| 07:42:44 PM | GoodGuy | Humans with a brain can figure out what the poster intends
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| 07:43:29 PM | T0B33 | So the one click when powering off is not bad _Jot_ ?
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| 07:44:04 PM | GoodGuy | I saw some poster use two characters together to bypass racist filters
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| 07:44:37 PM | GoodGuy | Iirc one was a special character
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| 07:44:41 PM | T0B33 | Oh _Jot_ it was given to me by a friend. Also when you click on something you hear the disk spin it sounds like your booting off a live Ubuntu CD
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| 07:44:44 PM | _Jot_ | T0b33, no, and that clicking you hear more often is probably the same thing, it turning off and on again because something went wrong so it resets itsself
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| 07:44:55 PM | Hillary | any questions???
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| 07:45:14 PM | _Jot_ | T0b33, that is why you want to run smart-tests on it or the tests from the manufacturer, which will tell you if the disk is bad, going bad or not etc
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| 07:45:50 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ i did and they all came back good. But i installed windows on it not long ago and it BSOD
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| 07:45:50 PM | Hillary | tobee repost Q
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| 07:46:03 PM | _Jot_ | t0b33, could be memory too
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| 07:46:26 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF what do regested users get that others dont?
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| 07:46:48 PM | GoodGuy | Over the Rainbow
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| 07:47:00 PM | T0B33 | Hmm. _Jot_ i need to do more tests and i will stick this HD in my netbook and see if i get a BS off it :)
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| 07:47:02 PM | iamboriskarloff | A bar code tattoo
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| 07:47:12 PM | tic-toc | free coffee??
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| 07:47:29 PM | iamboriskarloff | Click race sucks
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| 07:47:37 PM | _Jot_ | Apart from the awesome, wonderful, amazing picters etc, unfortunatly, there are also photos of RobbieF in the gallery
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| 07:47:38 PM | treedstamg | lets do a click race now
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| 07:47:40 PM | T0B33 | Oh and _Jot_ it has gone slower
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| 07:48:01 PM | iamboriskarloff | Click race only works if you have low latency - i.e. in the US or Canada
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| 07:48:13 PM | _Jot_ | t0b33, most often that means there are bad parts that it has to re-read, that's why you want to check the smart-reports, to see if there are any re-allocated sectors
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| 07:48:36 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ i checked and it has none :S
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| 07:48:42 PM | T0B33 | I did 5 tests on it
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| 07:48:46 PM | T0B33 | not long agao
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| 07:48:48 PM | T0B33 | ago*
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| 07:48:56 PM | tic-toc | Now Im getting cold feet
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| 07:49:22 PM | treedstamg | hello hillary
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| 07:49:27 PM | _Jot_ | t0b33, so also checked the values from smartctl?
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| 07:49:41 PM | Hillary | hey there treedstamg
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| 07:50:07 PM | T0B33 | I will check those _Jot_ This tests were 4 months ago. I will do more after the show :)
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| 07:50:24 PM | T0B33 | i did a few small omnes few days ago
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| 07:50:31 PM | T0B33 | ones*
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| 07:50:40 PM | T0B33 | Thanks for the tips :)
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| 07:51:00 PM | _Jot_ | t0b33, I don't always know what the values mean from smartctl, but I know with those if it does show odd values or errors, or reallocated sectors etc, it can be a bad drive
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| 07:51:43 PM | T0B33 | This is a very odd odd hard drive. If it had windows on it i could tell easier. Hardware fault dont always show on Linux
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| 07:51:54 PM | albertr | does this show cover any Android news or aything else of Android?
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| 07:52:04 PM | T0B33 | Windows loves BSOD at me so i think i know how to bring it to light xD
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| 07:52:24 PM | treedstamg | Hillary are you and you new husband using Linux yet?? :-)
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| 07:52:35 PM | tic-toc | load that new nvidia driver Robbie.
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| 07:52:40 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, windows can crash much easier tob33 :)
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| 07:52:43 PM | pyrosrock | can i alow a non admin user to mount a hd so they can watch movies on my movies hd in ubuntu? RobbieF Hillary
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| 07:53:08 PM | Guest_9690 | Just stumbled across your show yesterday so I thought I'd catch you tonight live. In barrie daily usually.. Looking good, and thanks.
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| 07:53:10 PM | tic-toc | thats private
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| 07:53:13 PM | T0B33 | RobbieF do you have any good hard drive scanning tools that are good and dont lie to me haha
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| 07:53:19 PM | _Jot_ | t0b33, but at least you know, if a disk shows any errors, it means it is already so bad that it went throught he spare areas and such, so it is already not trusted anymore
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| 07:53:32 PM | pyrosrock | but preferably only the one hd cause others have private data RobbieF
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| 07:54:26 PM | tic-toc | really like Zorin 6.1 core
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| 07:54:30 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ i will never ever trust this drive one because its 160 GB and i dont have a backup drive so i will store stuff on it without backing up and 2 its dodgy and creeping me out haha
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| 07:55:00 PM | Hillary | Thanks Guest!
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| 07:55:00 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF no its internal
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| 07:55:05 PM | _Jot_ | do get backups, even if it is just on dvd or something
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| 07:55:48 PM | T0B33 | Yeah _Jot_ i need better back up solutions than the ones i got now. I only have my picz backed up
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| 07:56:14 PM | _Jot_ | I wonder if Hillary makes backups
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| 07:56:32 PM | T0B33 | Good question >:) Do you Hillary? muhhahahaha
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| 07:56:56 PM | albertr | the user has to bei in the cdrom:x:24:user group
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| 07:56:58 PM | tic-toc | that looked like a no
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| 07:57:32 PM | tic-toc | clingy lol
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| 07:57:53 PM | albertr | thanks for the show ;^)
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| 07:58:01 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, we would love a daily Hillary and RobbieF show
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| 07:58:07 PM | _Jot_ | feel free to come to my home and do that every day
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| 07:58:15 PM | tic-toc | do more than one show a week
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| 07:58:21 PM | troy74 | good show,guys
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| 07:58:29 PM | Mathman47 | Thanks for the show Robbie & Hillary.
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| 07:58:38 PM | rusty9090 | great show (:
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| 07:58:51 PM | T0B33 | Multitasking xD
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| 07:58:57 PM | troy74 | talking about gerbils
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| 07:59:11 PM | gpop7 | Thank you Bailey for being on. Goodnight everyone.
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| 07:59:24 PM | tic-toc | pellets meet table.com
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| 07:59:36 PM | tic-toc | bye
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| 07:59:42 PM | _Jot_ | gerbils meet hammer dot com?
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| 07:59:55 PM | _Jot_ | gerbils on 'does it blend?'
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| 07:59:58 PM | troy74 | warfin the terrible meets the gerbs
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| 08:00:01 PM | Hillary | hahahahahaha
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| 08:00:02 PM | Hillary | thats mean!
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| 08:00:16 PM | gpop7 | Have great week. See you next time. same time same station.
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| 08:00:18 PM | _Jot_ | well at least it is not hillary on 'does it blend?'
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| 08:00:28 PM | Hillary | thanks everybody!!!
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| 08:00:28 PM | T0B33 | See ya guys great show RobbieF and thanks for coming in Hillary xD Thanks for the help every one
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| 08:00:31 PM | _Jot_ | and I didn't mention they weren't the blend-ee-s
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| 08:04:20 PM | _Jot_ | by the way, I have nothing against gerbils, I even take care of lots of mice
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| 08:05:23 PM | _Jot_ | I even know how to tell the males from the females, the male ones have balls, and the female ones have lasers or red lights
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| 08:13:53 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ i know exactly what to do with this HD xD
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| 08:14:22 PM | _Jot_ | see how fast it can work in the real world by throwing it?
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| 08:16:54 PM | T0B33 | Close! But nah i have a better solution hehe xD
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| 08:16:55 PM | T0B33 | I will use my custom made ubuntu isos to run my laptop in memory and use the HD to store a virtual machine. SInce i have no use for a VM i wont care if it dies or i will use DD to store my custom iso on it and boot the iso from the HD in to my memory so if it does crash my laptop wont crash because my OS is loaded in memory and i doubt doing this will strain it too much. One way of making the best out of something haha
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| 08:17:28 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, and if you store stuff on it anyway, don't store stuff you can't lose
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| 08:20:15 PM | T0B33 | Oh i wont store anything on it. If i use unetbootin or dd on it i cant store anything on it because i will use the whole disk. Unless i partition it but then again i could use one partition for Vms and one for my OS. I have another HD that a friend gave me that is destroyed. i might do the same to that one
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| 08:21:06 PM | _Jot_ | do remember that a broken harddrive may need more power etc so it isn't always useful
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| 08:21:29 PM | _Jot_ | and depending on how it is broken, if it short-circuits it can break other things
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| 08:22:34 PM | T0B33 | Wow! It can really do that _Jot_? :O The other HD when i used it the bios recognized it as two HDs and that is impossible on a netbook and its not partitioned in any way :O Then i rebooted and it came up as one :S
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| 08:23:04 PM | RobbieF | thanks gang! :) Hope you had fun tonight. Something a little different for you.
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| 08:23:18 PM | _Jot_ | it can do that if it doesn't respond properly, but that usually isn't too bad
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| 08:23:44 PM | _Jot_ | but short-circuits in computers can break other things because they have protection, but that wears out stuff extra fast too
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| 08:24:45 PM | T0B33 | So it could possible harm my motherboard? My laptop does go dead hot when using this HD but HDs go hot anyway but why do i get the feeling that this laptop is not suppose to make me sweat?
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| 08:25:24 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, that sounds like it has issues and you probably don't want to use that
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| 08:25:45 PM | _Jot_ | after all heat is a form of energy, and it shows that it is generating a lot of power, but not using it, so it just turns it to heat
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| 08:26:23 PM | _Jot_ | of course, everything gets warm from power so it can be normal, but if it gets more toasty than normal, then you don't want to use that disk
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| 08:28:00 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ i can smell the heat right now. Its thick. Why does a dodgy HD use more power _Jot_ is it the board on it that messes up?
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| 08:28:14 PM | T0B33 | be right back coffee
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| 08:28:50 PM | _Jot_ | well, a computer is basically a lot of switches, and it uses electricity to change them and send the power to places so stuff happens
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| 08:29:26 PM | _Jot_ | then, if something goes bad, it gets send to the wrong places or it needs more electricity to get there, because a wire or switch goes bad, and that means wasted power
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| 08:30:25 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, it was a nice show, Bailey was nice too
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| 08:31:42 PM | RobbieF | Thanks Jot.
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| 08:33:53 PM | _Jot_ | about power, you can see it easily yourself too, for example, if you use an extension cable, and keep it rolled up and put a lot of power on it, it can heat up a lot and even cause fire but when you roll it out completely and put the same amount of power on it, it won't get so hot
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| 08:34:50 PM | _Jot_ | so basically, bad connects that normally work well, can cause big problems, because energy like in power and heat always goes somewhere
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| 08:35:51 PM | T0B33 | That is very good information _Jot_ Thank you :) So its possible that my HD could drain allot of power and burn my mother board up? Or my HD wil store power which it wont use and blow? SOmething like this happened to one of my friends his laptop poped and just died.
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| 08:36:39 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, stuff like that could happen, also things are made to get hot, but only up to a point
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| 08:37:19 PM | _Jot_ | of course it should be possible to fix such stuff, but often it isn't really possible to do that easily without so much expensive tools that it isn't worth it
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| 08:40:22 PM | _Jot_ | sorry RobbieF, time to go to bed for you, I see your daughter is coming to warn you or its no desert for you tomorrow
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| 08:40:52 PM | RobbieF | seeya bro
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| 08:40:55 PM | RobbieF | have a great night!
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| 08:41:04 PM | _Jot_ | hey! I am not going
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| 08:41:07 PM | T0B33 | This HD that is really messed up (Not the clicky one) 3 HDs have died in a friends laptop during the past 2 years. He hits them allot but could it be possible that his first failed HD did something to his laptop causing all the others to die? I gave him my healthy one. Died in 3 weeks in his laptop with 60000 bad sectors
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| 08:41:09 PM | RobbieF | oh
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| 08:41:10 PM | RobbieF | haha
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| 08:41:38 PM | _Jot_ | tob33, yeah, it could be, and it could also be that the harddisk can recover when it gets good power again
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| 08:41:50 PM | _Jot_ | often what happens, is that something breaks, and keeps asking too much power and wears out the power supply
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| 08:42:06 PM | _Jot_ | so, the power supply doesn't work properly anymore, and then other stuff breaks too
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| 08:43:28 PM | _Jot_ | the thing about electricity is, it is always a closed circuit, so everything is connected together, so if one part goes bad, the power coming and going from that part can become bad too
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| 08:43:55 PM | robgor | hey guys how can u tell if a ssd is failing do they slowly die or fail without warning
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| 08:44:28 PM | RobbieF | usually no warning
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| 08:44:35 PM | RobbieF | but sometimes can lose access to certain files first
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| 08:44:35 PM | _Jot_ | all ssds will fail, because they are only designed for a certain number of writing-operations
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| 08:44:57 PM | RobbieF | admittedly though Jot, it is a very high number... as long as the user doesn't defrag ;)
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| 08:45:09 PM | _Jot_ | yep, definatly
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| 08:45:31 PM | T0B33 | He told me what he does and its really bad but i know people who have dropped them down stairs and still live some how. So there could be something wrong with his laptop? Maybe the laptop caused his first HD to fail and the HD failing never made the laptop faulty at all :S
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| 08:45:50 PM | robgor | RobbieF hmm might explain why I can log into zorin os after entering in my password it says loggin in and just stays at that
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| 08:46:00 PM | T0B33 | Thank you for the intel _Jot_ Wish i did not have ADHD i would have stayed at college and learned all this :(
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| 08:46:42 PM | _Jot_ | T0b33, in my experience, yes, it can be a bad laptop, and yes, laptops are designed to drop so yes, sometimes they can live, but it's not all exact science, so one thing can have issues and not another
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| 08:47:55 PM | _Jot_ | with laptops, the powersupply and motherboard are often the same thing, so replacing it is often a case of 'buy a new one'
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| 08:48:41 PM | _Jot_ | but if you have known good harddrives that fail, especially more than one, and in a few months, then it could still be a bad batch of harddisks if they are fromt he same store and manufacturer
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| 08:50:00 PM | _Jot_ | and yeah, of course it could be that the laptop was bad from the beginning that made the drives fail, or it could be that the first drive broke something, but the effect is the same
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| 08:50:51 PM | T0B33 | All this stuff you speak off is what i was learning at college and you make it sound more clearer than my teachers did! Well he leaves his laptop on his bed 24-7 and never turns it off. He uses his laptop as a server and uses skype and plays like 2 games all at once on it and he hits it and slams the lid on it when it goes slow. He has not looked after his laptop well and he has spilt drinks on it. So what you say about the laptop been faulty wo
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| 08:50:56 PM | _Jot_ | that's why I prefer normal computers cause it is easier to swap out parts, and if more parts go bad, take a known good computer and try parts from the bad one to see if the good computer will fail too to find out what 'doesn't work anymore
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| 08:51:44 PM | T0B33 | But the 1st drive is what gets me
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| 08:51:50 PM | _Jot_ | well, if he spills stuff on it, that can be why it breaks too of course, cause laptops aren't made for that :) then you get stuff in the laptop that can cause short-circuits and weird effects
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| 08:52:28 PM | _Jot_ | unfortunatly after a point you can't say for sure if the laptop was broken from the beginning, or if the behaviour caused it
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| 08:53:23 PM | _Jot_ | generally, electric stuff can handle amazing amounts of abuse, but it's not foolproof
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| 08:54:31 PM | T0B33 | Yeah i like desktops but i like laptops because with my ADHD i cant stay still too long so with laptops and netbooks i can walk around with them. I had a Acer aspire x1300 in 2009 and it was faulty i should have sent it back but i needed a computer for college and then in 2011 a thunderstorm finishes it off :( Well i would try this HD in my netbook but dont want to risk my netbook :(
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| 08:55:24 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, laptops aren't really made to keep on all the time etc, but they still can be useful like that
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| 08:56:05 PM | _Jot_ | it's why I have a few of those external drive-casings and connectors, so I can connect naked drives to USB for testing and copying etc
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| 08:56:37 PM | _Jot_ | generally it's not so risky that way, and you can touch the disk to see if they get more hot than normal etc
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| 08:56:57 PM | T0B33 | How do you know all this _Jot_? Did you learn by doing like me or did you go to college or something?
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| 08:57:24 PM | _Jot_ | I learned from doing and books and then from internet
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| 08:57:48 PM | _Jot_ | when I started with computers, I first got a ZX spectrum with 16KB memory, that was a really small box
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| 08:58:15 PM | _Jot_ | then I got an MSX, that was about two to three times as big, like an amiga or commodore 64 etc, but it was more powerful
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| 08:58:41 PM | _Jot_ | then I got a PC, and that was like a VCR and so on, like computers now, but graphics etc were worse
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| 08:58:57 PM | _Jot_ | so I wanted to know why it could do so little, and what was inside that the box had to be so big etc
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| 08:59:48 PM | _Jot_ | I already knew a bit about programming etc from all the previous computers too, so I had a general idea, how things fit together, and that helped too
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| 09:00:16 PM | _Jot_ | and of course it came with manuals that were actually good etc
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| 09:01:00 PM | _Jot_ | and then you go further and further with things, computers developed, and when parts failed, you learned how to replace them etc
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| 09:01:33 PM | _Jot_ | usually it wasn't a lot different, but you always learned because even if you did something before, things changed a little, so you still learned
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| 09:01:59 PM | _Jot_ | like different memory-connectors, how processors are connected, and so on
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| 09:02:58 PM | T0B33 | Wish i could read on stuff like that. My first computer was a windows 98 machine. Ah curiosity xD My adhd fuels mine and my ability to be creative and its how i learned so much. That is kinda how i learned. I cant read manuals or read things my ADHD distracts me so i have to learn by doing and playing about but i know enough to get paid. Wish i could go further tho. :(
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| 09:04:19 PM | _Jot_ | sounds like a good way :) and yeah, going further is always good, but it's mostly about keeping up skills, cause things change, but not so much
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| 09:06:33 PM | _Jot_ | I mean, take a look at RobbieF, even he still learns, for example about reading manuals about washers and stuff, even though he acts like he knows everything already
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| 09:08:16 PM | T0B33 | ADHD is good for drawing and writing stories because your mind is constantly switched on and hypo. So your imagination has no limits. Bad thing is you cant stay still relax and read a nice manual and you cant switch off when you want too. So its hard to listen in class lol Hard to explain
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| 09:08:37 PM | T0B33 | Washers?
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| 09:08:54 PM | T0B33 | RobbieF knows allot i would say haha
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| 09:09:12 PM | T0B33 | Chuck a question at him he has the brain power that can rival google
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| 09:09:18 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, RobbieF put together the server and the washers are needed for the cpu-cooler, because the fan on it causes vibrations that break stuff, and the washers dampen it
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| 09:09:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF didn't read the manual, so he didn't see step 1) put washers on the cooler, and so now the server will break before its time
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| 09:10:45 PM | _Jot_ | and I think the ADHD thing just means you can still do the same stuff, it just has to be in a different form or order sometimes
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| 09:11:07 PM | _Jot_ | I mean, you can pay attention long enough for category5 :)
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| 09:15:11 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_ its how i was able to control it. It makes you stubborn because you tend to do things your way. I went my whole life not knowing that what i had was not normal. Only recently i realized that there was a name for all my symptoms. Only because i gone so long without treatment i dont really need it and i cant anyways because you have to be diagnosed as a child. Its when you start a new job its hard because you slip in to a world of your own w
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| 09:16:18 PM | T0B33 | and i cant tell my mum about it because i think she is ashamed of it for some reason so that makes me think that she has it which would make sense because she does similer things i do
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| 09:17:07 PM | _Jot_ | or it could be she blames herself that you have it :) I have no idea of course, I don't know enough about it
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| 09:18:03 PM | _Jot_ | but generally, doing things similar to somebody you live with and that has the same genetics doesn't sound that odd :)
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| 09:18:42 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, spock mooned us while you were away
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