Chat Logs for Episode 274 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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07:00:42 PMwolfe.freenode.net (notice) [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp
07:00:49 PMRobbieF I made it!
07:01:03 PM_Jot_ welcome to Category5, RobbieF. Is your microphone on?
07:01:16 PMGuest_Harry yeaaaayhhhhh
07:01:27 PMchrisreich People of Earth, Greetings.
07:01:34 PMjebster Hi Robbie and Sasha
07:01:35 PMGuest_Harry ypu sound awesome
07:01:42 PMGuest_Harry not to worry
07:01:45 PMOldGuyJim Toooooo late, RobbieF.
07:02:01 PM_Jot_ SashaD, didn't you hear? Christmas was cancelled cause some people had to go and have a cold and such
07:02:40 PMjaepea hi chrisreich
07:03:18 PMchrisreich hello jaepea
07:03:18 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, SashaD, if you're hungry, maybe you can use the Mozilla phone to order Mozzarella pizza
07:03:19 PMajamison5579 when did Robbief side line as Obbi
07:03:27 PMajamison5579 *if you have kids you get the reference
07:05:12 PM_Jot_ yay! I'm going to win. I wonder what I won this time :)
07:05:18 PMhrbllv Hi
07:05:25 PM_Jot_ hello hrblly
07:05:53 PMhrbllv hi Jot
07:06:10 PMDennis_Kelley Hello Everyone and _Jot_
07:06:13 PMGoodGuy Hello Dennis_Kelley
07:06:21 PM_Jot_ hi Dennis_Kelley and other people I didn't say hi to yet
07:06:29 PMchrisreich top o' the evening, Dennis_Kelley
07:06:29 PMGoodGuy Hi _Jot_
07:07:15 PMeyemeansit Robbie, is the Eco-Alkalines voice-over done by you?
07:07:21 PMajamison5579 Its so exceptionaly exceptional?! Robbief you should write their marketing
07:07:35 PMDennis_Kelley chrisreich - Hello!
07:07:36 PM_Jot_ eyemeansit, yes, that's RobbieF, they like it so much, they use it themselves too I think
07:07:50 PMchrisreich RobbieF Does Brother have Linux drivers for their newest line of printers?
07:07:57 PMeyemeansit Very cool
07:08:30 PMGoodGuy I get excited about several things.. Have to admit a printer wasn't one (so far)
07:08:49 PM_Jot_ nice isn't it SashaD :)
07:09:29 PMOldGuyJim Chrisreich, I would image they do just like the old ones. I've also noticed that HP is now supporting different versions of Linux.
07:09:42 PMGuest_Harry http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
07:09:45 PMtic-toc dont break it..lol
07:09:50 PMajamison5579 can it still print normal portrait mode
07:09:51 PMGuest_Harry Chrisreich
07:10:09 PMGuest_Harry there's brother linux drivers
07:10:14 PMchrisreich I "image" they do to, OldGuyJim, but the question is relevant tonight
07:10:50 PMGoodGuy I have a Canon... it prints sideways if I say do landscape.. How is this different in the end results?
07:10:52 PMOldGuyJim Chrisreich, should have been imagine.
07:11:02 PMJoeNH Are the ink cartridges seperate?
07:11:03 PMOldGuyJim Sorry.
07:11:19 PMajamison5579 I want a printer that print what i want before i know i want to print it
07:11:19 PMGuest_Harry Chrisreich did you got the link?
07:11:23 PMajamison5579 can Brother help with that
07:11:35 PMchrisreich Yeah I know OldGuyJim - those mistakes happen to all of us.
07:11:36 PMGoodGuy Most of us can read typonese :-)
07:12:06 PM_Jot_ write it too
07:12:12 PMchrisreich Yes, I have the link Guest_Harry. It's still a suitable question for the guest.
07:12:22 PMOldGuyJim That is why I'm OldGuyJim....emphasis on "Old" :)
07:12:27 PMGuest_Harry oh ok> sorry
07:12:51 PMchrisreich In fact, my Brother printer does not have a Linux driver, so it's important to me.
07:13:33 PMGuest_Harry it's just that I do customer support and when I see a question I tend to answer...my bad
07:13:42 PMOldGuyJim Is this an inkjet or a laserjet using color ink?
07:14:04 PMOldGuyJim I asked too soon...the picture answers the question
07:14:31 PMGoodGuy How much is the ink cost per page in comparison
07:14:49 PMOldGuyJim Goodguy...Good question.
07:14:54 PMtic-toc Does it print money ?
07:15:04 PMajamison5579 makes you wonder when someone is going to come up with a biodegradeable replacement for plastic that has the same strengths of plastic but none of the weaknesses
07:15:05 PMchrisreich "typonese" I like that. I will steal it.
07:15:25 PM_Jot_ tic-toc, not real money, no printers do, because printers and scanners recognize security-features from money and refuse to process it
07:15:28 PMGoodGuy Most do.. a free ticket to jail with each bill printed lol
07:15:29 PMJoeNH it the yellow runs out, can just replace the yellow?
07:15:52 PMtic-toc mine don't...
07:15:56 PMtic-toc lol
07:16:30 PMu_guys_r_ is that a laser printer?
07:16:36 PMGoodGuy North Korea supposedly does a great job coping money according to the news
07:16:43 PM_Jot_ it is an inktjet-printer
07:16:51 PMu_guys_r_ ok
07:17:01 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - which Android tablet?
07:17:18 PMtic-toc did he say iphone :0
07:19:13 PMGoodGuy Use Google Chrome cloud print
07:19:30 PMJoeNH Do you really want the world print to the device?
07:19:39 PM_Jot_ not visible on that camera on paper either RobbieF :P
07:19:42 PMchrisreich OldGuyJim - I'm old enough that my offspring are adults, but in cases like mine it's not so much the years as the milage... :-)
07:19:45 PMajamison5579 I hope everyone here has deleted their instagram accounts
07:19:54 PMGoodGuy I think it just makes it easier to do yourself
07:20:01 PMtic-toc Sasha is modeling lol
07:20:04 PMchrisreich what is instagram. No, I'm not kidding.
07:20:24 PMJoeNH never had an instagram account
07:20:30 PMGoodGuy It is a picture web site for mobile devices iirc
07:20:33 PMchrisreich nor have I
07:20:33 PM_Jot_ instagram is a photo-sharing site that is meant mostly for sharing from mobile devices, and like facebook they want a perpetual right to your pictures
07:20:49 PMchrisreich Thanks _Jot_
07:21:08 PMajamison5579 _jot_ they took it further and now they can sell them and transfer ownership rights without your conscient
07:21:10 PM_Jot_ link to the printer: http://www.cat5.tv/brother
07:21:12 PMajamison5579 starting jan 16th
07:21:40 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, so that is the same as facebook, they have those rights too. Twitter and other sites have that as well
07:22:45 PM_Jot_ http://www.cat5.tv/brotherlinux
07:23:04 PMtic-toc she was cubed
07:23:06 PMGuest_Harry is it the same link I posted earlier RobbieF
07:23:21 PMchrisreich excellent
07:23:56 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, can you use smaller paper too, like postcards?
07:23:58 PMSashaD What a great printer : )
07:24:08 PMtic-toc Tania is a different name
07:24:11 PMchrisreich good question _Jot_
07:25:19 PMtic-toc Is it strong enough for a butt scan..lol
07:25:48 PMGoodGuy Proably depends on whose butt lol
07:25:59 PMGoodGuy probably
07:26:00 PMtic-toc too funny
07:26:04 PMGuest_Harry tic-toc>>>IT ISSS!!!hahaha
07:26:22 PM_Jot_ SashaD, just take it as you go home, RobbieF won't notice, he isn't that smart :)
07:26:28 PMRaj__ Me Me me Me :)
07:26:33 PMchrisreich do you speak from experience, Guest_Harry? :-)
07:26:39 PMGoodGuy Isnt that an Nsync song SashaD?
07:27:00 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - will the be available to US viewers?
07:27:05 PMRaj__ Nice to see you again RobbieF
07:27:05 PMDennis_Kelley *They
07:27:15 PMRaj__ Tons of changes
07:27:31 PMJoeNH Firefox can't print right. Do I really want them as my phone?
07:27:36 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, the printer? or the prizes?
07:27:53 PMDennis_Kelley the Prizes
07:28:09 PMDennis_Kelley which will be a printer!
07:28:14 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, I know RobbieF always tries very hard to ship everything everywhere around the world
07:28:19 PMchrisreich JoeNH I don't have problems with Firefox printing in OS X. What problems are you having?
07:29:01 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, when I won my pogoplug, it wasn't even available anywhere except the US yet, but he still made sure I got one
07:29:19 PMGuest_Harry sorry couldnt hear the whole thing, but is it affecting androids?
07:29:32 PMtic-toc I never online bank....
07:29:41 PM_Jot_ Guest_Harry, yes, there are android-virusses now
07:30:01 PMGuest_Harry yes i know but did she mention phones or tablets?
07:30:17 PMGoodGuy Better check if you have any money in your bank
07:30:23 PMjaepea hi robbief and sashad
07:30:42 PM_Jot_ Guest_Harry, at this time, it is mostly phones, because the specific trojan uses SMS, which tablets don't have, but there is no reason to assume it will be just phones
07:31:15 PMGuest_Harry thanks
07:31:31 PMJoeNH wow
07:32:11 PMGuest_Harry linux powered Yesssss
07:32:32 PMGoodGuy It will have military applications soon
07:32:38 PMGuest_9866 I keep getting phonecalls from reps in india stating I have viruses on my computer. They always sound so sad when I tell them I have a Mac
07:32:40 PMajamison5579 Imagine the pain when installing these chips
07:32:48 PMElmerFishpaw good in a street fight too!
07:33:15 PMGoodGuy Probably put her to sleep
07:33:20 PMtic-toc cake shops will love this
07:33:28 PMGuest_Harry or imagine a reboot?
07:33:29 PM_Jot_ Guest_9866, your Mac can run Windows, which is what they want to infect and make you pay for at the same time. So still, be cautious in case they catch on
07:33:45 PMGoodGuy Most stuff doesnt hurt as bad as you imagine it will
07:33:59 PMGuest_9866 I'm using it just with Apple OS.
07:34:11 PMajamison5579 Lets hope that implant is not running Windows 96
07:34:14 PMajamison5579 95
07:34:16 PMajamison5579 lol
07:34:21 PMGuest_Harry OOOh the wonders of Linus OS
07:34:28 PMGuest_Harry Linux
07:34:55 PMJoeNH 3d chocolatebusiness cards!!!!! Yes
07:34:57 PM_Jot_ where is my chocolate?!?!?!
07:35:07 PMDennis_Kelley Hello RobbieF
07:35:10 PMGoodGuy I saw Chef Tizzard make a trifle on Steve and Chris
07:35:16 PMDennis_Kelley And SashD
07:35:24 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD
07:35:26 PM_Jot_ hi Heather, don't work too hard :)
07:35:26 PMGoodGuy never heard of that before
07:35:46 PMSashaD Hi Dennis : )
07:36:08 PMSashaD I'm seriously thinking this a doable business venture
07:36:09 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Have you seen HootSuite?
07:36:09 PMJoeNH Don't you have ascript for that?
07:36:26 PMGoodGuy I follow a Canadian cooking show and she used that software
07:36:34 PM_Jot_ business venture? I'm still stuck on the word 'chocolate', I heard nothing else
07:37:39 PMOldGuyJim Chrisreich, I totally understand about the "mileage"...getting old ain't for sissies.
07:38:19 PMchrisreich Good one, OldGutJim. :-)
07:38:28 PMtic-toc reset the default medis player?
07:38:30 PMhrbllv ncely said OldGuyJim
07:38:44 PMhrbllv nicely
07:38:44 PMchrisreich I just had a Firefox crash - restarting now.
07:40:42 PMtic-toc political reasons ?
07:41:51 PMjaepea i waiting on steam on ubuntu
07:42:01 PMGregg political or religious or maybe just avoiding the known vulnerabilities of adobe flash
07:42:35 PMGoodGuy Coming out in a week or two iirc jaepea
07:43:22 PMU-Al_ lol
07:43:31 PMJoeNH RobbieF: Oneof the linux magazines had an article a while back to convert OGG toMP3 on the fly
07:44:33 PMGoodGuy One time only RobbieF
07:44:53 PMchrisreich I think I will have to re-boot my Mac. I may or may not be back in time for the end of the show. My best wishes to all. Merry Christmas everyone.
07:44:57 PMGoodGuy Rest will be differential or incremental
07:45:07 PMGoodGuy ZFS has that stuff also
07:45:13 PMGuest_Harry Merry Xmas to you too
07:45:31 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, unraid can also be a bit slower if you move a lot of stuff with Windows, but that is purely Windows being silly, that's not unraid being slow
07:45:36 PMGoodGuy ZFS is probably the most advanced file system available
07:46:01 PMalbertr btrfs also
07:46:05 PMDennis_Kelley I think SashaD is Lost completely!
07:46:16 PMSashaD It's true
07:46:18 PMGoodGuy lierally!
07:46:22 PMGuest_Harry hahaha
07:46:26 PMGoodGuy literally
07:46:37 PMeyemeansit bad bad, Robbie!
07:46:47 PMrevdjenk when are you going to have a G+ presence?
07:47:04 PMGoodGuy Maybe you can ask Mr Reiser to help enhance it.. what else does he have to do tese days lol
07:47:08 PMRaj__ she is like speak english.. :)
07:47:13 PM_Jot_ SashaD, killer file system is a bad joke, because Mr. Reiser, the creator of Reiser FIle System killed his wife
07:47:30 PMU-Al_ raid 1 you can recover from mirrored drive if the raid breaks
07:48:39 PMSashaD oh... yep, I'm lost... bad joke
07:49:35 PMJoeNH not to mention thenewsinthe US this week
07:49:41 PMJoeNH or last week
07:49:58 PMGoodGuy They have a new addon to beat that
07:49:58 PMElmerFishpaw I watch on Roku...Blipttv
07:50:02 PMajamison5579 blip.tv
07:50:19 PMGoodGuy Google RokuGuide maybe
07:50:57 PMGoodGuy I read the article and installed to channel.. never used it so far
07:51:50 PMGoodGuy http://www.rokuguide.com/articles/videobuzz-private-channel-brings-youtube-roku
07:51:59 PMGoodGuy That is it.. VideoBuzz
07:53:36 PMSashaD Thanks Good Guy
07:53:52 PMGoodGuy welcome
07:54:15 PMGregg just added blip.tv to my roku. Searched for category5 - not found :-(
07:54:27 PMEightMilesFromTJ I use DVD Styler on my linux system
07:54:39 PMGoodGuy Try that URL I gave Gregg
07:54:51 PMGoodGuy Private Channel VideoBuzz
07:55:02 PMGoodGuy sounded like it should be decent
07:55:06 PMGoodGuy http://www.rokuguide.com/articles/videobuzz-private-channel-brings-youtube-roku
07:55:09 PMalbertr devede
07:55:10 PMjaepea robbief or anyone know of a good drive repair program for extrnal drives
07:55:25 PMGoodGuy TestDisk maybe?
07:55:27 PMGregg looks like a private youtube channel. I forgot category5 had youtube
07:55:29 PMGregg thanks
07:55:40 PMRobbieF Windows: http://www.majorsilence.com/devede
07:55:40 PMRobbieF Linux: http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html
07:55:58 PMGoodGuy Roku needs a channel to access it
07:56:20 PMGoodGuy SpinRite
07:56:24 PMGregg (was hoping that Roku would get us past the ustream commercials for live viewing. guess not.)
07:56:25 PMrevdjenk Does Cat 5 have a G+ presence?
07:56:38 PMGoodGuy Thought they had a pretty good rep (Windows)
07:57:00 PMGoodGuy Roku loves commercials
07:57:15 PMGoodGuy I see the same ones several times in a row
07:57:31 PMtic-toc Why isn't Spock in the Christmas scenery on the shelf ? Don't Vulcan's celebrate Christmas? :)
07:57:39 PMGregg they always seem to interrupt something important being said by the hosts
07:57:45 PMGoodGuy Try Classic Shell in Windows 8
07:58:05 PMGoodGuy I saw several tech shows on that
07:58:08 PMRaj__ is windows 8 any better? or another ME clone?
07:58:18 PM_Jot_ ME clone
07:58:24 PMjaepea i know s pnrite is good but it aint ext drives
07:58:35 PMRaj__ no point in spending money on 8
07:58:36 PMJoeNH The gui is a complete rewrite
07:58:53 PM_Jot_ ajamison mentions that it is beter, except for the new UI-part, but that is the only part that you can't get around, even with the work-arounds, you still are stuck with how that works, the work-arounds just put that in a different format
07:58:55 PMGoodGuy tiles
07:59:29 PMalbertr Thanks :)
07:59:30 PMJoeNH The code underneath was rewritten. Ituses something like winRT
07:59:44 PM_Jot_ so next week you will be sick, cause you caught it from SashaD, RobbieF?
07:59:53 PMRaj__ Merry Christmas to you all if I don't see you that day...
08:00:04 PMJoeNH Merry Christmas everyone
08:00:18 PMRaj__ Nice Seeing you again Robbie
08:00:18 PMGoodGuy Merry Christmas Raj__ JoeNH
08:00:21 PMtic-toc Merry Christmas to all
08:00:26 PMRaj__ Been long time...
08:00:30 PMRaj__ thanks Good Guy...
08:00:32 PMhrbllv Seasons Greeting to all
08:00:33 PM_Jot_ same to you Raj__
08:00:34 PMRaj__ you too
08:00:34 PMrevdjenk See you on Christmas! Merry Christmas...
08:00:39 PMRaj__ thanks Jot..
08:00:41 PMDennis_Kelley Merry Christmas everyone if I am not able to make it next week!
08:00:43 PMRobbieF Merry Christmas to you to Tic-Toc
08:00:50 PMhrbllv Thanks for the great show
08:00:51 PMGoodGuy same to you Dennis_Kelley
08:00:56 PMjaepea see yall next week
08:00:56 PMtic-toc thank you
08:00:59 PM_Jot_ Merry early Christmas to people not being able to be here next week :)
08:01:06 PMeyemeansit Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
08:01:07 PMDennis_Kelley You too GoodGuy
08:01:13 PMRaj__ Nice Wall background...
08:01:19 PMSashaD Thank you everyone... see you next week!!!
08:01:28 PM_Jot_ you too SashaD
08:01:29 PMRaj__ what's up with beard, mustach?
08:01:44 PMRaj__ looking nice tho..
08:01:56 PMrevdjenk Wish I had gotten in earlier tonight...sounded like another great show
08:01:58 PM_Jot_ Raj__ Beard and hair etc is winter-covering against the cold
08:01:59 PMDennis_Kelley Raj_ - Its winter in Berrie, ONT
08:02:12 PMRaj__ Sasha... you are nice.. just read pc magazine once or twice... you will be alright with Tech jorgans...
08:02:24 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, the first half was about this printer - http://www.cat5.tv/brother
08:02:34 PMSashaD It's coming off after Christmas... it's a warmth thing I think!
08:02:47 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: oh, brother
08:02:51 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:02:54 PMRaj__ :)
08:02:56 PMGuest_Harry such a great show today but I missed the part about HDD,, guess I'll get it on the show feed, Thanks for a great show, Again!!
08:03:13 PMrevdjenk SashaD: or go to tuxmachines.org
08:03:16 PM_Jot_ well, I would say oh Brother... Or oh sister, since a lady was involved
08:03:17 PMGuest_Harry Merry Xmas to you'all
08:03:25 PMRaj__ I try to get to this program every week.. but was not able to do iteven once... since last year... AMAZING
08:03:28 PMRobbieF You too Guest_harry!
08:03:40 PMRaj__ I am on Christmas holidays..
08:03:47 PM_Jot_ Raj__ Not even watched a show back from the on demand?
08:03:49 PMRaj__ so thought of checking on Robbie today..
08:03:51 PMrevdjenk SashaD: good articles on new issues...
08:04:06 PMRaj__ you know what.. I didn't watch Robbie for more than a year
08:04:14 PMu_guys_r_ does the Ubuntu server support GUI or terminal only?
08:04:21 PMRaj__ I have all my PTO left at work...
08:04:24 PMRaj__ :)
08:04:48 PMGoodGuy terminal I assume unless you install a desktop environment yourself
08:05:12 PMGoodGuy Most server installs have little use for a GUI
08:05:14 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: so that printer is the prize next week!
08:05:16 PM_Jot_ u_guys_r_ I think yu can install one, but gneerally it is not recommended, mostly because that's not what servers are really for, but there is discussion at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI
08:05:21 PMRaj__ Nice show.. I am upgrading my system to new Ubuntu since Robbie introduced me to it...
08:05:35 PMu_guys_r_ ok thanks
08:05:58 PMRaj__ See you all again.. I think may be next week
08:06:08 PMRaj__ Good Night evey one..
08:06:09 PMGoodGuy It is interesting following the Raspberry Pi
08:06:10 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, I think maybe RobbieF will keep it together with the mouse and send an empty box with a an IOU-paper in it
08:06:22 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: hee hee
08:06:27 PMGoodGuy amazing all the things people have created already
08:06:30 PMu_guys_r_ great show folks
08:07:02 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: you've seen the latest, raspberry pi and apple's siri to open garage door...
08:07:13 PMGoodGuy Yes I did.. slick
08:07:21 PM_Jot_ 'open garage door', 'I can't do that, dave'
08:07:26 PMGoodGuy lol
08:07:32 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:07:46 PMGoodGuy Today someoner made a beet musical gadget
08:08:05 PMrevdjenk Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer dooooooooo
08:08:06 PMGoodGuy Not sure why, but the moderator was impressed
08:08:34 PMGoodGuy I bought a second Pi with 512mb
08:08:43 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: made from beets or for the Beats?
08:08:45 PM_Jot_ wow, so much ram :)
08:08:52 PMGoodGuy Just loaded OpenELEC on it
08:09:02 PMGoodGuy beets as in the vegetable
08:09:19 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: you could install Mint on that Pi!
08:09:37 PMGuest_3010 openelec on a pi?
08:09:43 PMGoodGuy Only if it was compiled for ARM CPU
08:09:47 PMGoodGuy Yes
08:10:12 PMrevdjenk well, at least bodhilinux... don't think mint has the arm version ready yet....correct
08:10:16 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, can we watch? can we watch?
08:10:25 PMGoodGuy RasmBMC and OpenELEC provide a XBMC media center
08:10:30 PM_Jot_ yay! thanks RobbieF
08:10:35 PMGuest_3010 is the show over
08:10:35 PMGoodGuy RaspBMC
08:10:37 PMRobbieF my pleasure
08:10:38 PM_Jot_ hi EricKidd
08:10:42 PMGoodGuy Yes Guest_3010
08:10:59 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: what's he doing? can anyone watch, or need backstage?
08:11:00 PM_Jot_ Guest_3010, the main show just ended, but the Backstage Pass is still active
08:11:07 PMGuest_3010 it's only 7;30
08:11:16 PMGoodGuy Yes last I heard
08:11:24 PM_Jot_ I think you have to be signed up for it to work, but it may work for everyone
08:11:42 PMGoodGuy Arch Linux - Bodhi and Raspbian (Debian)
08:11:45 PM_Jot_ it's one of the channels that show up if you click 'open all' while watching the show
08:11:49 PM_Jot_ the direct link to the BSP is http://live.cat5.tv/bsp.htm
08:12:49 PMGuest_3010 GoodGuy with OpenElec do you get a desktop as well as xbmc?
08:13:14 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: THANKS had already fired it up
08:14:08 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, great, I posted it for others too, because it isn't easy to find if the show isn't playing right now and it is interesting to watch
08:14:34 PMrevdjenk Are they having a meeting, a party ?
08:14:46 PM_Jot_ rehearsal for the christmas-special
08:14:54 PMrevdjenk ah
08:15:02 PMGoodGuy It looks the same, but the OS part doesnt show if thats what you mean
08:15:11 PM_Jot_ no sound unfortunatly, but can't have everything I guess :)
08:15:13 PMGoodGuy It is Linux under the hood
08:15:48 PMGoodGuy It didnt allow an apt-get update etc
08:15:59 PMGoodGuy They update it differently
08:16:12 PMGuest_3010 GoodGuy I use raspbian but can only use xbmc no browser
08:16:14 PMrevdjenk openelec is based on what, GoodGuy ?
08:16:23 PMrevdjenk \what distro?
08:16:28 PMGuest_3010 raspbmc sorry
08:16:30 PMGoodGuy Not sure revdjenk
08:16:34 PMrevdjenk ah
08:17:12 PMGoodGuy RaspBMC and OpenELEC arent designed to do web browsing
08:17:35 PMGuest_3010 so i can have one or the other
08:17:36 PMGoodGuy You may be able to install XBMC manually in Raspbian Wheezy
08:17:52 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: have you seen bodhilinux? they have a pi version...
08:18:04 PMGoodGuy I assume thats what the RaspBMC is doing
08:18:23 PMGoodGuy I saw it existed and saved the URL.. never tried it
08:18:45 PMGoodGuy OpenSUSE is supposedly making a version also
08:19:17 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: http://www.bodhilinux.com/downloads_mobile.php
08:19:37 PMGoodGuy Adafruit has a PI OS also
08:19:47 PMrevdjenk bodhi uses enlightenment
08:19:56 PMrevdjenk for DE
08:19:57 PMGoodGuy customized for electronic stuff
08:20:16 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: ah, you hacker, you
08:20:26 PMGoodGuy I have tried Bodhi on a PC,,, just not on the Pi
08:20:36 PMGoodGuy wanna be hacker
08:20:42 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:21:08 PMGoodGuy Never did it yet... I bought the GPIO cable when I was ordering the case
08:21:48 PMGoodGuy It was so cheap, I got it in case I ever wanted it later to avoid shipping in the future
08:22:15 PMGuest_3010 946 MB is a full os
08:22:25 PM_Jot_ only problem is that there is so much cheap but great stuff, you tend to keep adding and adding and it all adds up to great amounts :)
08:22:26 PMGoodGuy I have an Adafruit Pi Box on my 1st PI and a ModMyPi case on the new one
08:22:47 PMGoodGuy Tell my wife about it lol
08:23:07 PMGoodGuy small house.. lots of "junk" and magazines
08:23:25 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: don't you just say... is that new? oh no, I have had it for quite a while, now.
08:23:42 PM_Jot_ tell my wife about that, as soon as I found her amongst all the stuff I have (if I have one)
08:23:50 PMGuest_3010 which case do you like better
08:23:51 PMGoodGuy she does the credit cards, so that wouldnt work lol
08:23:57 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:24:13 PMGoodGuy We always ask each other before spending anything
08:24:26 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: smart man!
08:24:29 PM_Jot_ 'Ive had that since christmas', 'but christmas is next week''oops'
08:24:35 PMGoodGuy Made that rule the day we married
08:24:37 PMrevdjenk ooops
08:25:14 PMGoodGuy We are older, so not many bills at this stage
08:25:31 PMGoodGuy other than medical stuff unfortunately
08:25:43 PM_Jot_ you know, RobbieF's house is a great place to be with all those nice people around
08:25:52 PMrevdjenk ah, GoodGuy, yes, meds do get expensive
08:26:05 PMGoodGuy I'll say!
08:26:19 PMrevdjenk Is that Eric w/o beard? I haven't been watching lately
08:26:27 PMGoodGuy They know me by sight at the pharmacy
08:26:39 PMGoodGuy all the workers :-)
08:26:56 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: my dad orders the meds he can from canada, and saves about 60% !
08:27:01 PM_Jot_ yeah, he saved it for movember, for charity so there would be something to grow, and I think also so people don't confuse him with RobbieF - again
08:27:08 PM_Jot_ shaved*
08:27:21 PMGoodGuy I sould have my wife look into that
08:27:31 PMGoodGuy we live near Canada also
08:27:42 PMGoodGuy I cant barely drive though
08:27:47 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: they live if FL but order online
08:28:04 PMGoodGuy even sitting as a passenger is starting to bother me lately
08:28:20 PMrevdjenk sorry to hear that GoodGuy. I'll add you to prayers, if you don't mind.
08:28:30 PM_Jot_ be cautious with medicines from canada though, many sites claiming to be there are from spammers and obviously have nothing to do with canada
08:28:40 PMGoodGuy I thought I saw a small storefront that sold Canadian meds in a nearby city
08:28:48 PMGoodGuy Not at all.. Please do
08:28:55 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: yes, they order from a reputable firm, not the email spammers
08:29:26 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: ask your doctor, they might give you a lead...
08:29:47 PMGoodGuy It always seems strange... Most meds are created in the USA and cost more here than Canada and other nations
08:30:04 PMGoodGuy Good idea revdjenk .. I'll ask next appt
08:31:14 PMGoodGuy My wife has some unusual medicine plan
08:31:21 PMrevdjenk Medicare has not been given permission by Congress to be able to haggle for price with pharmaceutical companies, that's why. So they purchase at the going rate.
08:31:35 PMGoodGuy one time it costs a $100.. next time over $200
08:31:42 PMrevdjenk yikes
08:32:03 PMGoodGuy actually more. that was just an example
08:32:37 PMGoodGuy Medicare pays for a name brand needle and it is cheap
08:32:44 PMrevdjenk One of my dad's meds was 2500 annually in US just 600 from Canada.
08:32:51 PMGoodGuy Next purchase they wanted about $60
08:32:56 PMrevdjenk one example
08:33:19 PMGoodGuy and we wonder why the debt is so high
08:33:25 PMrevdjenk yup
08:33:50 PMGoodGuy although most med companies that create them are US based
08:34:04 PM_Jot_ oh look, Christmas Wells is there too
08:34:05 PMGoodGuy They want the innovation to continue
08:34:06 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: as long as it is sharp and clean!
08:34:28 PMGoodGuy My wife worried the house brand wasnt as sharp
08:34:50 PMGoodGuy I said I'll live with it for that diff
08:35:10 PM_Jot_ SashaD doing her best to hug everybody and infect them with the cold so they don't/can't have to come next week
08:35:26 PMGoodGuy I didnt really notice any diff in use and I am the one taking the injections
08:35:56 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: but when the copyright period is about to come to an end, the pharm changes the meds 'recipe' and get another 15 years added on! Those ar e the kinds of tricks, ththey pull
08:35:57 PMGoodGuy I had a female doctor and she had to work to convince me to take insulin
08:36:20 PMGoodGuy I didnt know that one revdjenk
08:36:26 PMrevdjenk Well, if that is what you need to do to control it...
08:36:52 PMGoodGuy Several of my costly meds went generic recently
08:37:07 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: NPR did a report on that a few months ago.
08:37:15 PMGoodGuy Lipator they wouldnt pay for
08:37:30 PMrevdjenk yikes
08:37:31 PMGoodGuy so my doc switched to another one
08:37:49 PMGuest_3010 GoodGuy they find a new use for the med to keep the patien inforce
08:37:54 PMGoodGuy Then it came out in a generic and we use that
08:38:17 PMGoodGuy They are in it for the profit
08:38:18 PMGuest_3010 paten
08:38:37 PMGoodGuy It is probably like software
08:38:41 PMrevdjenk what? profit? Is that the way capitalism works...hee hee
08:39:03 PMGoodGuy First copy costs a million dollars.. next ones cost $10
08:39:08 PM_Jot_ don't forget not actually curing people - not even knowing if it is possible or not, because it isn't profitable to cure people
08:39:21 PMrevdjenk It's 'sing along with Mitch...er ... um ... Eric
08:39:37 PMGoodGuy They pay for the R & D with the rest of the sales
08:39:56 PM_Jot_ SashaD: Okay, I forgot my hat at home, but I'm wearing red, that's a christmas-colour, it is enough, right?
08:39:57 PMrevdjenk Is that Mrs. Robbie in the blue?
08:40:03 PMGuest_3010 GoodGuy I dont mind the profit motive but it seems everyone is trying to milk Americans
08:40:09 PM_Jot_ revdjenk,that's photographer Heather
08:40:21 PMrevdjenk ah, thanks _Jot_
08:40:29 PMGoodGuy in my first job, I worked on an insurance program
08:40:54 PMGoodGuy a friend worked on a clinic billing system written in assembler
08:41:14 PMrevdjenk Guest_3010: and the Americans with insurance usually pay the higher costs, too.
08:41:15 PMGoodGuy Most programmers didnt want to touch assembler
08:41:44 PMGoodGuy and that app was written by rookies, so it was hard to follow
08:42:01 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: you MUST be old... assembler.. who uses that now?
08:42:05 PMGoodGuy I used to chip in and help him out of pity lol
08:42:10 PMGoodGuy 61
08:42:27 PMrevdjenk I'm a close 59
08:42:35 PMGoodGuy One of the clinics they billed for a leading cancer doc
08:42:59 PMGoodGuy we had high-speed impact printers in those days
08:43:18 PMrevdjenk bzzzzzzzzzz
08:43:33 PMGoodGuy I saw bills for $40,000 -$36,00 etc as fast as it could print
08:43:38 PMGuest_3010 They ship all the jobs overseas so they can sell us their overpriced junk
08:44:11 PMGoodGuy when I saw that, I figured who would realy want to cure cancer and lose that gold mine
08:44:13 PMGuest_3010 when i was a kid christmas toys didn't fall apart out of the box
08:44:26 PM_Jot_ Here is a picture of Bekah: http://www.flickr.com/photos/category5tv/6284645029/
08:44:30 PMGoodGuy True Guest_3010
08:45:25 PMrevdjenk that's rignt _Jot_ I've seen her before, somewhere.
08:45:31 PMGoodGuy brbias
08:47:36 PM_Jot_ Bekah also showed the whole world how to prepare popcorn on Category 5, I still think that was an amazing part of the show
08:47:38 PMrobgor bugga missed the live show was called out at last minute :(
08:48:21 PM_Jot_ robgor, you missed the printer - http://www.cat5.tv/brother and some questions and such, and news
08:48:51 PMrobgor yeah oh well have to wait to download the show then
08:49:30 PM_Jot_ you can still watch the BSP, that's still on, they rehearsed for the christmas special next week
08:49:33 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: I still do the lunchbag, oil, bit
08:49:33 PMGoodGuy I read today that sicko in Conn hammered his hard drives trying to prevent them reading it
08:49:53 PMGoodGuy Might have wiped them as well
08:50:42 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: so he was a very high functioning autistic, then. Most of the autistics I know may not be that aware.
08:50:57 PM_Jot_ being autistic has nothing to do with what happened
08:51:19 PMGoodGuy Iirc there is a "secret" project of six govts that record every email, phone call, fax , text etc
08:52:05 PMGoodGuy I believe it was the USA, Canada, UK, New Zealand and Australia and another
08:52:09 PM_Jot_ echelon?
08:52:14 PMGoodGuy Yes thats it
08:52:33 PM_Jot_ echelon has been in operation since the 80's or 90's or something like that
08:52:35 PMGoodGuy Love to see their hard drive farm
08:52:36 PMrobgor wont be missing the show live next week, funny thing it wont be xmas for me will be boxing day lol
08:53:05 PMGoodGuy Plus I thought they already had a quantum computer
08:53:08 PMrevdjenk GoodGuy: don't think we had enough storage back then...
08:53:22 PMGoodGuy we dont.. they may :-)
08:53:31 PM_Jot_ but it's not really secret or anything, plus they don't have to record that much these days, considering for example by law the ISPs are required to record much information already
08:54:00 PM_Jot_ It's Christa Wells!
08:54:02 PMGoodGuy I watched a show on how they caught Pablo Escabar
08:54:06 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: and just working from keywords... and algorythms
08:54:41 PMGoodGuy They had gadgets to pick his voice out of every call in Columbia within seconds
08:55:01 PMGoodGuy He had tipsters helping warn him though
08:55:15 PMrevdjenk and now we have hipsters
08:55:17 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, how is Christa doing? Or should we say Christamas? Oh wait, she isn't wearing her hat
08:55:21 PMGoodGuy Escaped just in time numerous times
08:55:41 PMGoodGuy Then they found the informer and later cornered him
08:56:00 PMGoodGuy Trouble is sometimes we are stupid!
08:56:07 PMRobbieF _Jot_ I'll ask as soon as Eric is gone
08:56:19 PMGoodGuy Cant wait to brag and tell the news how we found someone
08:56:19 PM_Jot_ well, I hope Eric is doing okay too :)
08:56:38 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, I found RobbieF, I'm pointing at him right now!
08:56:55 PMGoodGuy a news guy told Bin Laden we were tracking satellite phones and he isnt stupid
08:57:02 PMGoodGuy Stopped using them,
08:57:35 PMGoodGuy How man trillion dollars did that cost taxpayers
08:58:10 PMGoodGuy many
08:58:43 PMrobgor RobbieF I just downloaded a heap of the old shows, what a difference to now, looks alot older than what they are
08:58:47 PMGoodGuy Darn if they didnt do it again... brag how they were finally able to locate him
08:58:55 PMRobbieF ha - robgor - nice
08:58:59 PMRobbieF I hope you still enjoy!
08:59:10 PMRobbieF try to find some Carrie Webb episodes since you'll see her on Tuesday.
08:59:19 PMhrbllv GoodGuy: its still costing the taxpayer trillions
08:59:34 PMGoodGuy True
08:59:52 PMGoodGuy Just sad we dont keep quiet more
09:00:01 PMrobgor yeah I upgraded my internet plan to 300G a month so decided to download older shows, got 80 old episodes and still a few more to go lol
09:00:12 PM_Jot_ at least there most of the listening is automated, so that means there is so much data you don't have to worry about you. But in my country, they have to do something to make it happen, with the result that there are more phone-taps and so on than anywhere else in the world
09:00:59 PMGoodGuy I believe they listen for keywords like bomb etc
09:01:16 PMGoodGuy I wondered about encryption
09:01:17 PM_Jot_ I set up us the bomb?
09:01:21 PMrobgor hillary has been on the show a long time seen her on 100ish
09:01:36 PMGoodGuy wouldnt be useful if that stopped it
09:02:24 PMGoodGuy Out of a zillion conversations, something has to trigger them to follow up
09:02:30 PM_Jot_ it feels like all the co-hosts have been on there forever :)
09:02:57 PMRobbieF Now I can ask
09:02:57 PM_Jot_ but it's because they are all great co-hosts
09:03:06 PMRobbieF Christa says: "Oh um, Swell and such"
09:03:12 PMRobbieF (in honesty, I think she works too late)
09:03:18 PMRobbieF during Christmas, she adds.
09:03:36 PMRobbieF the rest of the time she sleeps until 3 in the afternoon and works for 2 hours a day before eating and going back to bed.
09:03:58 PM_Jot_ wow, 2 hours a day, and that in her condition, that sounds too much
09:04:11 PMRobbieF her arms have grown back
09:04:49 PM_Jot_ I think I even saw those stubbly moving thingies at the end of the arms, fingers or such? So be cautious, I hear they can be used as lethal weapons
09:04:53 PMrobgor didnt realise she lost them lol
09:05:15 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Do you use Zorin 6?
09:05:35 PMGoodGuy I tried Zorin 6 Core and liked it
09:06:05 PMRobbieF no I'm on Zorin 5
09:06:07 PMGoodGuy But it wouldnt search for programs beyond the first character
09:06:29 PMGoodGuy If I searched for F it would show Firefox and others
09:06:59 PMGoodGuy If I said Fi, it no longer showed the smaller subset
09:07:38 PMGoodGuy It would occasionally work, but most times it showed no hits
09:07:48 PMrobgor strange goodguy it works with unity
09:08:16 PMGoodGuy I had no problems with Ubuntu 12.04 doing it
09:08:39 PM_Jot_ by the way RobbieF, where you in EU a few days ago? I saw your account online, when I logged in to check on things and such
09:08:58 PMGoodGuy I have a secone partition I use to play with various Linux installs
09:09:25 PMGoodGuy Use this one for my actual use of Linux
09:09:29 PMGoodGuy second
09:09:31 PMrobgor ok goodguy just cheked this system and it is 12.04 maybe 12.10 no go but it should work
09:10:09 PMGoodGuy You tried a search in the menus by beginning of name?
09:10:20 PMGoodGuy Zorin 6?
09:10:21 PMRobbieF Yes _Jot_ I was
09:10:24 PMRobbieF didn't see you.
09:10:38 PMrobgor I might try out steam as its going to be avaible to the puble this week I believe
09:10:55 PMrobgor public
09:11:04 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, that's okay :) there have been issues with the friendslist since they changed it back when, I did send a message, to check if it was you or if something else happened, but got problems after that
09:11:18 PMGuest_3010 GoodGuy If you like Zorin you may like cylon linux azs well
09:11:29 PMGoodGuy I just read about that
09:11:39 PMGoodGuy Zorin looked pretty nice
09:11:57 PMGoodGuy I installed Mint 14 at the moment
09:12:05 PMGoodGuy seems pretty good
09:12:42 PMGoodGuy This Linux is PinguyOS 11.10 iirc'
09:12:54 PMrobgor so much choice what to use, I just use zorin, used ubuntu untill unity came along, dont like it for a desktop, tablet it would be fine
09:12:58 PMGoodGuy It is PinguyOS for sure
09:13:12 PMGoodGuy I dont care for it either
09:13:28 PMGoodGuy I tried it to give it a chance
09:14:01 PMGoodGuy 12.04 LTS worked better for me
09:14:26 PM_Jot_ that's the nice thing about linux, so many choices :)
09:14:31 PMGoodGuy 12.10 had a few bugs in my system
09:14:35 PM_Jot_ and being able to use what you want
09:14:45 PMGoodGuy Love Linux for that
09:14:47 PMrobgor anyone got suggestions for ups software for linux with a gui?
09:14:52 PMGuest_3010 10.04 was the best i think
09:15:08 PMGoodGuy My wife refused to try Linux for years
09:15:29 PMhrbllv I agree Guest_3010
09:15:38 PMGoodGuy Her Windows started locking up and she tried it just to be able to get it running
09:15:41 PM_Jot_ you already googled 'linux ups software gui' robgor?
09:16:20 PMGoodGuy Now she loves it and only uses a fresh WinXP install for a few programs she wants that dont run on Linux
09:16:31 PMGoodGuy 10.04 also
09:16:55 PMGoodGuy I had her try the newer ones and they slow her old PC down
09:17:19 PMrobgor what I have found is for the command line which is fine by me, but its for a work pc and need a gui so the boss can check it, he's a windows person not linux person
09:17:25 PMGoodGuy I suggested why not buy her a newer PC
09:17:46 PMGoodGuy she is happy with her old one as long as it runs 10.04
09:17:47 PMhrbllv Ubuntu 10,04 was great - now Kubuntu 12.04 is good
09:17:58 PM_Jot_ robgor, for example http://gapcmon.sourceforge.net/
09:18:12 PMGoodGuy Her PC is an old AMD T-Bird 1.4Ghz
09:18:26 PMGoodGuy newer versions make it drag
09:18:50 PMGoodGuy old memory also which costs more to upgrade
09:19:10 PMGoodGuy dont want to invest more cash in an old PC
09:19:30 PMGoodGuy She is happy with it for what she does
09:19:45 PMGuest_3010 hrbllv: havent tried kde lately xandro was the last
09:19:47 PM_Jot_ for what you pay for memory for such systems (and my computer too) you can buy almost a whole motherboard with integrated processor and memory these days
09:20:00 PMGoodGuy Facebook, web and a few simple games
09:20:25 PMGoodGuy She wanted Spider Solitaire from XP, so I ran it under CrossOver
09:20:50 PMGoodGuy She was happy as a lark once that was running
09:21:05 PM_Jot_ she won't like windows 8 - it doesn't come with any games, not even solitaire
09:21:31 PMGoodGuy Can it run the copy from WiXP?
09:21:35 PMrobgor hmm maybe I should leave it I had problems with the software for the cyberpower ups, crashed the system, rebooted and errors where coming up. removed it and all is fine again
09:22:12 PMGuest_3010 Jot and Debian comes with too many games
09:22:14 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, haven't tried. You can download solitaire and other games through the software-store-thing they have (and free too) but it doesn't come out of the box with anything like that
09:22:25 PMGoodGuy That is the on;y game she runs.. rest are flash games from Facebook and other sites I am guessing
09:22:55 PM_Jot_ robgor, you may want to search for that model and linux and see if anything comes up
09:23:12 PMGoodGuy Dont ask me why I buy them.. stupid I guess just being honest
09:23:42 PM_Jot_ I have much more games than I play too, but I figure, I have to keep myself busy all my life, at least this way I might have something to do
09:23:50 PMGoodGuy I like the idea, but usually don't feel well enough to spend time figuring them out
09:24:42 PM_Jot_ I have games like that too, fortunatly through the magic like internet there are solutions and walkthroughs and cheats and so on to make games easier
09:24:47 PMrobgor thanks jot, I might just leave it, todays my last day before xmas holidays and last thing I want is problems with the pc. The ups is working just not the monitoring of it
09:24:50 PMGoodGuy when I do feel a little better, I play with Linux or watch tech shows on a WD Live TV in the front room
09:24:53 PM_Jot_ I mean, sometimes you just want to eperience the story of a game

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