| 06:58:27 PM | popey | http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3852144/gabe-newell-interview-steam-box-future-of-gaming
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| 06:58:33 PM | popey | \o/ confirmed steambox is linux based
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| 06:58:39 PM | albertr | hi Drumstick
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| 06:59:19 PM | robgor | popey it would only be linux or android based anyhow
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| 06:59:22 PM | _Jot_ | it's made by Xi3
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| 06:59:41 PM | ajamison5579 | so does it get pretty cold in Iceland ;)
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| 06:59:57 PM | _Jot_ | hi TheChrista, nice to see you
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| 07:00:03 PM | robgor | i got steam on my system works great
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| 07:00:34 PM | tic-toc | I wonder what the temp is in Hell Michigan?
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| 07:00:36 PM | ajamison5579 | robgor I hope you mean steam as in valves steam and not steam coming from your computer the latter is very bad
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| 07:00:40 PM | _Jot_ | don't forget to plug in your microphone RobbieF
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| 07:00:45 PM | ajamison5579 | I am in michigan
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| 07:00:47 PM | ajamison5579 | its 34f
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| 07:00:53 PM | tic-toc | So am I
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| 07:00:56 PM | pyrosrock_mobile | Robgor there might be more but all the pins look like 1 Coz we only rely have the major cities
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| 07:00:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello All!
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| 07:01:20 PM | robgor | yes valve steam ajamison LOL
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| 07:01:27 PM | albertr | Hi Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:01:41 PM | _Jot_ | hey Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:01:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF TheChrista - Great to see you!!
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| 07:02:10 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF, I just heard, Category5 is the show to watch
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| 07:02:12 PM | tic-toc | I do neither
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| 07:02:55 PM | tic-toc | :)
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| 07:03:03 PM | Dennis_Kelley | :-D
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| 07:03:09 PM | OldGuyJim | Good evening folks
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| 07:03:13 PM | Drumstick | Works on my phone...
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| 07:03:22 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Way Cool!
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| 07:03:23 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, stop leeching all our bandwidth! You don't have to watch the show!
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| 07:03:25 PM | ajamison5579 | Mo-Bile sounds like you want more bile
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| 07:03:45 PM | robgor | RobbieF good to see u shaved your head looks much better, go the bald nerd LOL
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| 07:04:25 PM | invinciblemutant | hi guys
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| 07:04:30 PM | _Jot_ | are you interested in building a webapp TheChrista?
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| 07:04:31 PM | invinciblemutant | good evening there
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| 07:04:45 PM | _Jot_ | hi invinciblemutant
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| 07:05:50 PM | ajamison5579 | will cover the cost of a plane ticket to Nevada
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| 07:05:52 PM | tic-toc | He's kind of a stiff isn't he
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| 07:05:58 PM | invinciblemutant | cardigans day today?
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| 07:05:59 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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| 07:06:14 PM | invinciblemutant | men and ladies cardigans day !!!!
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| 07:06:25 PM | invinciblemutant | hi jot
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| 07:08:10 PM | tic-toc | ubuntu cell
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| 07:08:19 PM | robgor | check out the ubuntu site for a video about the phone
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| 07:08:38 PM | ajamison5579 | what next they roll out their own Cell Phone carrier
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| 07:08:55 PM | M0DCM-Dave | Hey Guys
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| 07:08:55 PM | Guest_hArrY | hi gang and finally ubuntu for phones
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| 07:09:13 PM | _Jot_ | hi M0DCM-Dave and Guest_hArrY
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| 07:09:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hell0 M0DCM-Dave
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| 07:09:21 PM | M0DCM-Dave | oops brb
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| 07:09:21 PM | tic-toc | send me the link to test it on my phone. I'll load it up
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| 07:09:27 PM | TheChrista | hey folks! I didn't get a chance to say hey since I was so late
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| 07:09:36 PM | RobbieF | tic-toc - I'll ask him if it's possible
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| 07:09:42 PM | _Jot_ | belated hi TheChrista :P
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| 07:09:45 PM | tic-toc | sweet
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| 07:09:49 PM | TheChrista | Did you see back stage the part where Robbie beat me up for almost missing the show? He's got a mean right hook
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| 07:09:55 PM | robgor | hi TheChrista
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| 07:10:07 PM | albertr | Hi TheChrista
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| 07:10:12 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista, we weren't worried, you could have easily hooked him and knocked him out if you wanted
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| 07:10:45 PM | RobbieF | Oh - theChrista has arrived? HEY!
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| 07:10:49 PM | Guest_hArrY | TheChrista, then he would wanted to fight manny packiao!!!
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| 07:11:03 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista besides, you were much earlier than EricKidd usually, so not sure why he got so upset
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| 07:11:17 PM | Dave-Maydew | thats better
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| 07:11:20 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief I thought you were pre-recording this interview at least i thought that is what your twitter said
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| 07:11:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey _Jot_
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| 07:11:28 PM | ajamison5579 | you did it early in the morning
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| 07:11:29 PM | tic-toc | If your 5 minutes early your 15 minutes late
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| 07:11:30 PM | _Jot_ | Dave-Maydew you changed :P
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| 07:11:40 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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| 07:12:02 PM | tic-toc | very nice
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| 07:12:10 PM | _Jot_ | wait, only 11:20am? it is much too early to be awake
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| 07:12:16 PM | Dave-Maydew | I've been watching Cat5tv on my new Tablet
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| 07:12:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | :-)
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| 07:12:19 PM | RobbieF | time difference
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| 07:12:24 PM | RobbieF | Good 'ol timezones
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| 07:12:45 PM | GWG | Dave-Maydew: Which one?
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| 07:12:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | It's nothing special
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| 07:13:01 PM | RobbieF | great Dave-Maydew - hope it looks great!
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| 07:13:02 PM | invinciblemutant | cool bean
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| 07:13:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | just a Arnova 7G3
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| 07:13:26 PM | ajamison5579 | what device is that loaded on to
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| 07:13:26 PM | invinciblemutant | i would prefer darker background to conserve battery power
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| 07:13:28 PM | tic-toc | Ahhhh UNITY Dammit Jim....lol
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| 07:13:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | Nexus
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| 07:14:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | I've been doing my homework
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| 07:14:12 PM | ajamison5579 | Tic-toc he does not call it Unity its call the launcher on Ubuntu Mobile lol
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| 07:14:22 PM | _Jot_ | wait - we had homework for this show? darn, I should have paid attention
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| 07:14:26 PM | RobbieF | question for tic-toc
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| 07:14:26 PM | popey | its called launcher in unity too ajamison5579
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| 07:14:47 PM | RobbieF | Galaxy Nexus ajamison5579
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| 07:14:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF I'll have photos of all my devices for next week
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| 07:15:02 PM | Guest_hArrY | that def looked like Samsung phone
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| 07:15:02 PM | ajamison5579 | oh ok
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| 07:15:06 PM | RobbieF | great Dave-Maydew!
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| 07:15:06 PM | tic-toc | ????
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| 07:15:22 PM | RobbieF | tic-toc - it's being built to work on existing android hardware
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| 07:15:28 PM | RobbieF | I'll ask him about rooting it
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| 07:15:36 PM | ajamison5579 | I got me a Galaxy note 2 and it looked familar to that as well
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| 07:15:38 PM | tic-toc | Thanks
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| 07:15:39 PM | Dave-Maydew | Glad the interview went well RobbieF
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| 07:16:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | The Arnova I have is a re-badged Archos, and fully rooted out of the box
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| 07:16:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | Already been hacking it
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| 07:16:46 PM | ledzep | what time is the shiw
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| 07:16:56 PM | RobbieF | ledzep - we're on the air right now
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| 07:17:00 PM | _Jot_ | you mean the show that is on right now ledzep?
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| 07:17:11 PM | ledzep | yes
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| 07:17:20 PM | RobbieF | 7:17pm our time right now
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| 07:17:23 PM | _Jot_ | it's on right now, been running for about 17 minutes
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| 07:17:24 PM | RobbieF | show started at 7
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| 07:17:31 PM | albertr | @RobbieF - can you ask him for download link?
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| 07:17:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | or 12am UTC
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| 07:17:41 PM | RobbieF | albertr - I'll ask if we can get a copy; sure
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| 07:17:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF just wants more ubuntu swag :P
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| 07:18:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | I read RobbieF tweets in the week
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| 07:18:36 PM | Dave-Maydew | :-) he said he was doing the interview
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| 07:18:38 PM | Dave-Maydew | awesome
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| 07:19:38 PM | Guest_hArrY | wine for android or IOS kool
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| 07:19:44 PM | ledzep | ok I couldn't get it on Justin
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| 07:20:06 PM | _Jot_ | odd, it is fine for me on justin
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| 07:20:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | Windoze emulation on Droid?? nooooooo
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| 07:20:11 PM | RobbieF | ledzep what about http://live.cat5.tv ?
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| 07:20:27 PM | robgor | ubuntu one has one problem it cant sync none hone partition or a second hard drive, went to set it up on my sisters laptop and came across this issue
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| 07:20:53 PM | robgor | ended up using google drive
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| 07:21:28 PM | ledzep | Got another show going on that link
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| 07:21:29 PM | Garbee | HTML5!
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| 07:21:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | I use Google Calendar and sync contacts currently across all my devices
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| 07:21:50 PM | RobbieF | ledzep - I'd suggest making sure you don't have an ad blocker installed?
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| 07:21:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | JoliOS has been using HTML5 for a while
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| 07:21:57 PM | RobbieF | or disable it if you have one?
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| 07:22:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | kinda slick
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| 07:22:41 PM | invinciblemutant | how ubuntu mobile position itself against apple iphone and android
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| 07:22:43 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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| 07:23:21 PM | invinciblemutant | when will be the first mobile available on themarket
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| 07:23:28 PM | Dave-Maydew | 2014
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| 07:23:37 PM | tic-toc | gimme gimme
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| 07:23:37 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: fee for developers
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| 07:23:39 PM | Dave-Maydew | more homework I've done
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| 07:23:41 PM | RobbieF | I'll ask, invinciblemutant
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| 07:23:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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| 07:23:58 PM | Dave-Maydew | sorry RobbieF
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| 07:24:10 PM | RobbieF | :) You're probably right Dave-Maydew
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| 07:24:24 PM | RobbieF | But we'll get it right form Richard just to be sure
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| 07:24:31 PM | RobbieF | I know their site says 4th q 2013
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| 07:24:37 PM | RobbieF | so I'm seeing mixed messages
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| 07:24:44 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm toying with trying Ubuntu for Android on the Tablet I have
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| 07:25:17 PM | invinciblemutant | can we get the source?
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| 07:25:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | 2014
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| 07:25:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | Wooooo
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| 07:25:51 PM | invinciblemutant | any review on it so far?
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| 07:25:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | ESP
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| 07:26:14 PM | RobbieF | he showed it a few minutes ago invinciblemutant - but we'll definitely see some CES video shortly based on what he's saying
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| 07:26:23 PM | robgor | so it will be the end of 2014 for Australia then :(
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| 07:26:56 PM | invinciblemutant | Robbie: whatsapp support?
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| 07:27:05 PM | RobbieF | Sounds pretty young yet
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| 07:27:11 PM | RobbieF | (the app end of things)
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| 07:27:20 PM | invinciblemutant | that is the coolest thing ever we expect to work together with whatsapp developer
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| 07:27:38 PM | invinciblemutant | whatsapp will be the substitute for sms
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| 07:27:39 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF you never fail to please
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| 07:27:49 PM | RobbieF | [PHEW] Dave-Maydew
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| 07:27:58 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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| 07:28:07 PM | RobbieF | I try to be thorough without being over-the-top geeky.
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| 07:28:22 PM | _Jot_ | you are such a geek RobbieF
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| 07:28:25 PM | RobbieF | I am.
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| 07:28:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | My wife is actually watching it!!
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| 07:28:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | I was gonna watch the show on the Tablet, till she said put it on!!!
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| 07:28:54 PM | _Jot_ | Dave-Maydew, she'll be a regular viewer any day now
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| 07:29:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | so 32" LCD and surround
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| 07:29:19 PM | RobbieF | Picture dave-maydew, picture!
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| 07:29:20 PM | RobbieF | haha
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| 07:29:20 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings. Sorry I'm late.
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| 07:29:21 PM | RobbieF | nice
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| 07:29:29 PM | _Jot_ | hi chrisreich
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| 07:29:29 PM | RobbieF | hey chrisreich - date didn't work out?
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| 07:29:34 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hi Chris
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| 07:29:34 PM | RobbieF | nice to see you.
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| 07:29:52 PM | RobbieF | woohoo!
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| 07:30:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | sweet
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| 07:30:14 PM | chrisreich | Hey _Jot_, Dave-Maydew. No RobbieF, no return calls from Taylor Swift. Yet.
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| 07:30:23 PM | albertr | nice
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| 07:30:33 PM | _Jot_ | chrisreich, they knew you weren't available because you really wanted to watch the show
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| 07:30:51 PM | tic-toc | I got it
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| 07:31:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | STEAM!!
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| 07:31:12 PM | Dave-Maydew | THQ and more next
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| 07:31:30 PM | tic-toc | :0
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| 07:31:33 PM | _Jot_ | it's a wee? eehmm wii?
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| 07:31:39 PM | GoodGuy | give it time chrisreich .. she just dumped another boyfriend.. again *yawn*
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| 07:31:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | did she say Pist----on??
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| 07:31:49 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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| 07:31:59 PM | chrisreich | I know GoodGuy, that's why I was calling her.
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| 07:32:09 PM | U-Al | Is Steam for Linux for Ubuntu only?
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| 07:32:17 PM | GoodGuy | Gotta be your turn sooner or later
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| 07:32:37 PM | chrisreich | I swear, any year now I'm going to give up on Sandra Bullock.
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| 07:32:52 PM | TacoWan | whoo hoo I'm taking win off my i5 computer now that steam is almost ready
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| 07:33:02 PM | GoodGuy | I have an optical nurse that looks like a younger version of hers
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| 07:33:12 PM | tic-toc | Don't know I have it on ubuntu
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| 07:33:19 PM | _Jot_ | TacoWan, just remember that just cause steam runs on linux, it doesn't mean most games will
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| 07:34:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | they will though _Jot_ :-)
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| 07:34:56 PM | _Jot_ | that's the plan I hope :)
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| 07:35:50 PM | Dave-Maydew | Now I feel like a kid again!!
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| 07:35:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | Elite
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| 07:36:15 PM | _Jot_ | I have a copy of that including the novel that came with it
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| 07:36:44 PM | Dave-Maydew | I still have a BBC Micro
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| 07:36:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | with it
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| 07:36:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | memories
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| 07:37:36 PM | tic-toc | The days of 8 bit games
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| 07:37:51 PM | _Jot_ | I sure could use them, since the electrics failed here in the city due to fire :)
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| 07:38:01 PM | _Jot_ | going to be months before it's back to normal and fixed and such
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| 07:38:26 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF is wishing
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| 07:38:28 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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| 07:38:36 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, new microphones don't help because you'll just forget to plug those in too
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| 07:38:45 PM | tic-toc | shinny things... lol
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| 07:39:04 PM | robgor | guilt trip RobbieF
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| 07:39:51 PM | robgor | I would sign up if I was in canada or usa
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| 07:39:55 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, are you sure you can? Don't you need to prepare?
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| 07:40:01 PM | balsamiqLeon | Hi, just wanted to add that I'm a Balsamiq employee, available for questions via chat
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| 07:40:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | that stare is good in 32" lol
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| 07:41:13 PM | Sovereign | Wow after months of use I finally saw the mute button on BSP
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| 07:41:15 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF is artistically handicapped?
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| 07:41:59 PM | Guest_hArrY | WACOM head managed tablet for @Robbief
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| 07:42:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | This is why I liked using VB.net etc
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| 07:42:23 PM | _Jot_ | thanks for being here balsamiqLeon
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| 07:42:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | but then I saw the error in my ways
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| 07:43:15 PM | albertr | is it HTML5?
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| 07:43:37 PM | tic-toc | When I draw pictures it looks like I did it with my feet. :)
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| 07:43:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | I know that feeling
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| 07:45:34 PM | Dave-Maydew | oh no not Red Shhhhhhhhhh
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| 07:47:15 PM | Dave-Maydew | this is what scares new users to Linux
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| 07:47:20 PM | _Jot_ | and of course people can download the show later and watch it again and again to follow along more slowly and repeat stuff if they need
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| 07:47:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | many I talk to think we have to compile everything
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| 07:48:17 PM | Dave-Maydew | Adobe have discontinued a couple of things
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| 07:48:41 PM | robgor | RobbieF isnt a opensource version of adobeair available?
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| 07:49:31 PM | popey | nope
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| 07:49:52 PM | _Jot_ | probably won't be since discontinued so no point really
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| 07:49:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | A new mapping app called iMaps
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| 07:49:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | oops
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| 07:50:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | The only mapping system that gets you lost
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| 07:50:59 PM | _Jot_ | you lost me Dave-Maydew
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| 07:51:27 PM | Dave-Maydew | I lost myself a while ago
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| 07:53:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | I like it
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| 07:53:25 PM | _Jot_ | it should be a smiley face RobbieF
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| 07:54:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey Scorpio55
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| 07:54:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | didn't see you till just
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| 07:55:19 PM | _Jot_ | Lorem Ipsum of course RobbieF
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| 07:55:37 PM | tic-toc | Come and buy my crap....
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| 07:56:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | thats WallMart
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| 07:56:16 PM | tic-toc | yes it is
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| 07:56:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | too many L's
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| 07:56:32 PM | balsamiqLeon | typing "lorem" will automatically create lorem ipsum text, btw
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| 07:57:04 PM | _Jot_ | very useful :)
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| 07:57:05 PM | ajamison5579 | who here actually speaks Latin and can tell me what Lorem Ipsum means
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| 07:57:32 PM | _Jot_ | I don't speak latin but I know it is an actual article something to do with the bible I think
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| 07:57:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | everyone is google'ing it as we speak
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| 07:58:03 PM | TheChrista | The original Lorem Ipsum used to be a Latin prayer
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| 07:58:15 PM | TheChrista | I'm not sure it is anymore, I think it's been comp'd since then
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| 07:58:41 PM | ajamison5579 | oh so developers are pushing their Latin religions on us when they use filler text
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| 07:58:44 PM | ajamison5579 | how rude
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| 07:59:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | right guys, I must go
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| 07:59:40 PM | Dave-Maydew | but I shall be back next week
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| 07:59:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | my dog needs to go out, and then it's bedtime
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| 08:00:03 PM | TheChrista | see you Dave-Maydew! Cheers!
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| 08:00:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | _Jot_ I shall chat soon
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| 08:00:09 PM | tic-toc | see ya
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| 08:00:14 PM | Dave-Maydew | see ya Christa
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| 08:00:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | bye
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| 08:00:28 PM | _Jot_ | have a good night Dave-Maydew
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| 08:00:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'll try
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| 08:00:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | ;-)
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| 08:01:22 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579 the original text used to be like that perhaps, but what you get doesn't even make sense, it's changed purely for text-filler-qualities etc
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| 08:01:44 PM | chrisreich | good night all. 'till next week.
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| 08:01:55 PM | albertr | thanks for the show all ;^)
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| 08:02:03 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, don't forget balsemiqLeon was here for us in the chatroom so we got our questions answered already by him too
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| 08:02:28 PM | tic-toc | good show
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| 08:02:48 PM | JImBobMedia____ | Great Show as Always !!!!!!!
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| 08:02:49 PM | balsamiqLeon | great demo
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| 08:04:47 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Nice show. Twas good to see an actual Ubuntu Phone demo unit running.
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| 08:05:18 PM | _Jot_ | I thought demo units where supposed to crash, or is that only with apple and microsoft
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| 08:05:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great Show RobbieF and TheChrista
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| 08:06:02 PM | TheChrista | Thanks folks! Thanks for joining us tonight
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| 08:06:19 PM | TheChrista | Robbie promises that he'll let me talk next time I'm on. Baby steps you know. ;)
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| 08:06:36 PM | robgor | Great show like always RobbieF and TheChrista
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| 08:07:18 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista, did he say 'talk on air'? because he can be tricky
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| 08:08:14 PM | TheChrista | He did say "smile on air" I assumed that meant I could talk as well. I'll read the fine print next time.
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| 08:08:27 PM | TheChrista | But it was a great interview, so I'll let it slide this time!
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| 08:09:16 PM | _Jot_ | next time when you want to say something, just kick him under the desk so he'll be too hurt to speak
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| 08:09:24 PM | _Jot_ | then you can talk as long as you want
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| 08:10:00 PM | TheChrista | haha, thanks Jot, I am glad I have approval to kick Robbie....now whenever it happens I can say "Jot made me do it"
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| 08:10:14 PM | _Jot_ | uhoh
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| 08:10:36 PM | _Jot_ | wow, my viewer points suddenly are minus 4 billion
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| 08:10:53 PM | RobbieF | thanks gang!
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| 08:10:55 PM | RobbieF | hope you had fun
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| 08:11:04 PM | robgor | oh well jot wont be winning anymore prizes lol
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| 08:11:21 PM | _Jot_ | that's okay, I still feel a winner :)
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| 08:11:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Night All!
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| 08:11:42 PM | _Jot_ | good night Dennis_Kelley
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| 08:11:53 PM | _Jot_ | still having fun RobbieF
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| 08:22:31 PM | robgor | Damn I need more space on my hd to fit games from steam :(
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| 08:22:56 PM | RobbieF | Yes robgor, yes you do.
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| 08:23:29 PM | robgor | RobbieF only got a 120Gig SSD
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| 08:23:35 PM | _Jot_ | I took the liberty to delete all the work from your drive robgor, you won't be working when you're playing anyway, so now you have lots of space
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| 08:24:44 PM | robgor | Jot the funny thing is I have a PS3 and a Wii and hardly play them, just decided to try steam when it came out
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| 08:25:18 PM | robgor | and thanks for deleting my work I didnt need it anyway LOLO
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| 08:25:50 PM | _Jot_ | I use steam a lot myself, haven't tried it on linux though. I can get pretty steamed about stuff sometimes too
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| 08:27:33 PM | robgor | yeah I have put it on both my desktop and laptop
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| 08:28:13 PM | robgor | with the laptop being a bit more of a pain with the drivers due to it being the optimus
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| 08:29:11 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, laptops usually are more difficult
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| 08:31:51 PM | robgor | hmm just added trine2 looks interesting
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| 08:32:16 PM | _Jot_ | I have that too but haven't played it yet, due to not having finished trine1
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| 08:35:55 PM | _Jot_ | don't have the expansion to it either yet, guess that'll be something for the next sale :)
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| 08:36:18 PM | robgor | oh well think I will go out to the garage for a bit and work on my project car, seya all
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| 08:36:26 PM | _Jot_ | have fun!
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| 08:36:48 PM | robgor | will do
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| 08:37:20 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, nice demo but I didn't like the colour, can you change that?
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| 08:37:27 PM | RobbieF | :-D
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| 08:47:36 PM | _Jot_ | I'm sure TheChrista could, she's good with design, so why can't you RobbieF :P
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| 08:54:01 PM | TheChrista | Because Robbie isn't "the Robbie" he's just Robbie
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| 08:54:29 PM | _Jot_ | ah, that's a good explanation
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| 08:54:46 PM | TheChrista | and, that is the answer to all lifes questions as well
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| 08:54:46 PM | RobbieF | hehe
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| 08:54:57 PM | RobbieF | I'd create a color layer in GIMP and make it green!
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| 08:55:26 PM | _Jot_ | green with envy?
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| 08:55:57 PM | _Jot_ | I do actually have a serious thing that I consider a RobbieF-design-flaw about something he did
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| 08:56:52 PM | _Jot_ | there's Bekahs book, A white rose, and it has about 4 times the title 'A white rose' on the cover and on the first pages. But, each time in a different font, and sometimes not matching the fonts around it, so I'm like 'geez, pick one or at least make it match'
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| 09:02:58 PM | TheChrista | By folks! I'll see you all soon....in a galaxy far far away
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| 09:03:05 PM | TheChrista | ....or right here on Cat 5. Cheers!
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| 09:03:07 PM | _Jot_ | have a great week TheChrista
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| 09:03:17 PM | _Jot_ | we'll be here waiting :)
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| 09:04:41 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Did you even timeline the Cat5 site?
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| 09:05:03 PM | Garbee | It is horrendous with the moving menu. under 30FPS at some points.
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| 09:05:07 PM | Garbee | ;)
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| 09:05:14 PM | Garbee | Shoot for 60 man.
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| 09:05:24 PM | _Jot_ | 60 is the new 30?
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| 09:05:52 PM | Garbee | 60 is what sites should go for as far as a FPS.
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| 09:06:06 PM | Garbee | It provides nice smooth animations/rendering.
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| 09:06:30 PM | Garbee | You can actually tell looking at Cat5 when you scroll down it renders pretty slowly.
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| 09:06:35 PM | Garbee | It even looks jaggedy at times.
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| 09:07:38 PM | _Jot_ | item for the newsroom: Garbee is secretly a gamer
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| 09:07:47 PM | Garbee | heh
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| 09:07:50 PM | Garbee | I rarely game anymore.
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| 09:09:25 PM | _Jot_ | things are really smooth to me, can't tell how much FPS it is etc, but maybe it depends on the browser too
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| 09:09:50 PM | Garbee | Yea, it can depend on browser.
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| 09:10:07 PM | Garbee | But still, it is going to be crap in most since it is using position:absolute;
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| 09:10:12 PM | Garbee | That is CPU bound rendering.
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| 09:10:47 PM | Garbee | That should be used as a fallback, instead opting for a transform effect or something else to make it GPU bound for modern browsers/systems.
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| 09:11:17 PM | _Jot_ | ah, but RobbieF is an old bald nerd, can he make such a transition
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| 09:11:22 PM | Garbee | I haven't seen any demos for making menus like that GPU bound though. It is on my list of things to figure out.
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| 09:12:18 PM | RobbieF | haha Jot; next time I'll remember to make the first 15 pages of any book the title, repeatedly, in different typefaces.
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| 09:14:50 PM | _Jot_ | :) I think actually the different fonts aren't really bad because of the purpose where they are, but on the back its very obvious because you have 3 or 4 fonts there with different spacing, because you probably wwanted more text there later and had to alter it to fit, that needs more work
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| 09:15:20 PM | RobbieF | hehe
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| 09:15:37 PM | RobbieF | do you remember how quickly I put that together (on the air)? :)
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| 09:16:17 PM | _Jot_ | well, you might do a 2nd printing sometime, so I figured I'd comment now about it :)
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| 09:16:37 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 09:16:38 PM | RobbieF | cheers
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| 09:16:55 PM | RobbieF | my copies got lost in the mail, so I haven't got to see it yet (to proof it and make revisions)
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| 09:16:55 PM | Garbee | So, I published the module I have been working on. Let's hope the LS team accepts it vs rejecting.
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| 09:16:58 PM | RobbieF | so you have a first-run copy
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| 09:17:12 PM | Garbee | Wow, Jot got his before Robbie.
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| 09:17:20 PM | Garbee | That is how bad the CA postal service is now...'
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| 09:17:37 PM | RobbieF | Canadian Postal service is crap
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| 09:17:53 PM | _Jot_ | I did buy mine from amazon UK, so it was printed there, that makes a difference as well
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| 09:18:13 PM | RobbieF | leave it to them to "lose" a package in the mail around Christmas time. I pretty much GUARANTEE you some jackass working at a post office thought it was a gift (sizeable box) and took it home for himself.
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| 09:19:15 PM | _Jot_ | mine was supposed to arrive before the power-failure, but they didn't feel like delivering that day, even though it fit in the mailslot, so they wouldn't even have to wait around for me to come get it
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| 09:19:30 PM | _Jot_ | otherwise I would probably have finished it already too :)
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| 09:19:52 PM | RobbieF | with no power, what else would you do? :)
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| 09:19:55 PM | RobbieF | how far in?
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| 09:20:42 PM | _Jot_ | I've not started to read it yet, because I wanted to wait untill today, or if the power failed again
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| 09:20:52 PM | RobbieF | PS - if you like it, please review it on amazon. If you don't like it, don't ;) hehe
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| 09:21:57 PM | _Jot_ | even though there are good reviews already? well, I'll see :)
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| 09:22:16 PM | Garbee | "Take only what you need from it"
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| 09:22:26 PM | RobbieF | I can't even SAY it Garbee.
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| 09:22:46 PM | RobbieF | I've yet to find a framework I "like" though
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| 09:22:48 PM | Garbee | Robbie, You don't need to be able to pronounce something to fall in love with it.
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| 09:22:51 PM | RobbieF | I tend to build my own
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| 09:23:00 PM | Garbee | I think Laravel could be the one for you.
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| 09:23:05 PM | Garbee | Because it is so modular.
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| 09:23:09 PM | RobbieF | cool.
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| 09:23:14 PM | RobbieF | pop me a note tomorrow @work
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| 09:23:15 PM | Garbee | Sadly I think it basically relies on composer though. :/
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| 09:23:17 PM | RobbieF | I'll have a look
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| 09:23:25 PM | Garbee | Unless you end up doing dep management manually.
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| 09:23:31 PM | Garbee | mkay, I'll do my best to remember.
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| 09:23:53 PM | Garbee | No docs yet. But the super cool thing is that it is an IoC framework.
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| 09:23:57 PM | Garbee | Making testing *super* easy.
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| 09:24:42 PM | Garbee | Because you basically create dummy (functions iirc what they are called) which you can plug into things. Making testing far easier/faster/reliable than previous methods.
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| 09:24:48 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, I hope RobbieF won't reject that thing you made either. Oh wait, he's not in charge of that, so you'll be fine I'm sure
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| 09:24:59 PM | Garbee | I actually heard one dev say it is basically impossible to properly test PHP without IoC capabilities.
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