06:58:03 PM | eyemeansit | Currently 73
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06:58:12 PM | _Jot_ | hi eyemeansit, sounds nice and warm, here it's not so warm, we're having snow in many places of the country
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06:58:20 PM | Drumstick | Sucks! I like cold weather
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06:58:46 PM | eyemeansit | I miss the snow... Michigan native. Cold makes me happy.
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06:58:48 PM | T0B33 | Drumstick , same :) hate summer , The wasps come after you -.-
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06:58:55 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, austrian viewers almost every week I'm sure
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06:59:15 PM | EricKidd | Hey, everybody...it's good to be back. I hope everyone's having a happy new year!
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06:59:44 PM | Drumstick | Good to see you EricKidd
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07:00:01 PM | eyemeansit | Welcome back, Eric!
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07:00:03 PM | albertr | hey all
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07:00:05 PM | Drumstick | Better hustle people!!!
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07:00:17 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Can we join in the chat during the show?
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07:00:24 PM | Garbee | I'll be at my desk in a bit.
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07:00:27 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, I hope so too! Here we had a hydro-failure for 11 hours in much of the city, due to a fire, and it'll be months before it'll be fixed completely
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07:00:40 PM | ajamison5579 | I am still waiting for Robbief to introduce the cooking segment he has said he wanted to do if he had time
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07:01:48 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, you can watch the episodes you missed back on www.category5.tv (so have fun watching)
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07:02:07 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Youtube is very blurry.
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07:02:36 PM | ajamison5579 | Now I want to load it up in youtube just for the closed captions
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07:02:37 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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07:02:45 PM | eyemeansit | Eric! The facial hair?
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07:03:26 PM | robgor | as good as australia post
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07:03:27 PM | invinciblemutant | hi everyone
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07:03:34 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, canada post - so good, you'll want to ship things twice for the experience
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07:03:35 PM | RobbieF | heya!
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07:03:42 PM | chrisreich | People of Earth, Greetings.
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07:03:55 PM | invinciblemutant | eric...clean face..
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07:04:00 PM | invinciblemutant | :)
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07:04:17 PM | T0B33 | Ah Windows Live Messenger... So many many memories :'(
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07:04:26 PM | tic-toc | gimme
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07:04:31 PM | invinciblemutant | bye bye live messenger
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07:04:53 PM | eyemeansit | Firefox phones, Ubuntu phones. interesting.
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07:05:23 PM | T0B33 | EricKidd you normally get the names wrong haha
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07:05:26 PM | popey | \o/ Ubuntu phones ☺
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07:06:05 PM | tic-toc | Ubuntu phones with unity... :(
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07:06:06 PM | Garbee | popey, I'm just waiting for the Chrome team to announce their phone.
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07:06:35 PM | Garbee | tic-toc, Unity is perfect for that display. Considering they can get the 1000+ bugs under control.
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07:06:57 PM | tic-toc | Unity is never perfect for me...lol
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07:07:35 PM | pyrosrock | hey guys can anyone see this?
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07:07:43 PM | _Jot_ | Jot loves getting viewer points, so give me more RobbieF :P
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07:07:47 PM | _Jot_ | yes pyrosrock, we can see that
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07:07:59 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, stop picking your nose!
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07:08:59 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - Use Mailnull
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07:09:01 PM | pyrosrock | ok cool good to know im finaly working
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07:09:16 PM | GoodGuy | a store and forward service (free)
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07:09:19 PM | _Jot_ | pyrosrock, we can see it, but nobody will accuse you of working
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07:09:57 PM | tic-toc | Luke, I'm your web master
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07:10:54 PM | invinciblemutant | how many people here keeps 2 email address for companies that uses our email for marketing?
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07:11:09 PM | popey | tic-toc: unity on the phone is _very_ nice :)
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07:11:17 PM | _Jot_ | I bet it would be quicker to ask who doesn't
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07:11:24 PM | GoodGuy | I have several invinciblemutant
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07:11:40 PM | GoodGuy | Everyone says they dont do that, but many do
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07:11:56 PM | invinciblemutant | I concern me a lot when a mailinglist does not allow to opt out
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07:12:04 PM | Garbee | What was Robbie's question to us?
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07:12:20 PM | _Jot_ | no idea Garbee
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07:12:22 PM | tic-toc | Like I said, Unity is never good for me. But on the phone it does make a better fit
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07:12:23 PM | GoodGuy | or act as if they do, but ignore unsubscribe requests
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07:12:51 PM | tic-toc | I just hate unity and always will
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07:13:33 PM | pyrosrock | anyone know how to get the hangouts working in linux?
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07:14:07 PM | tic-toc | Im using 12.04 in classic mode. Im more than pleased with it.
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07:14:20 PM | King_Arthur | Just login to Google Plus
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07:14:39 PM | scott_L | I switched to Linux Mint at the moment because I found Ubuntu not very stable over all
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07:14:44 PM | pyrosrock | yeah but the plugin dont seem to work
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07:15:00 PM | King_Arthur | pyrosrocks r u using Chromium?
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07:15:05 PM | pyrosrock | no
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07:15:13 PM | pyrosrock | is that better?
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07:15:15 PM | King_Arthur | download chromium
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07:15:32 PM | King_Arthur | it comes with gtalk etc
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07:15:32 PM | pyrosrock | ok i have chromium just dont use it
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07:16:23 PM | King_Arthur | then click here https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116166939572467405742
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07:16:35 PM | invinciblemutant | sorry, where does gerold come from...
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07:16:37 PM | King_Arthur | that is Robbies communite
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07:16:41 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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07:16:42 PM | GoodGuy | Austria
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07:16:45 PM | EricKidd | Austria
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07:17:14 PM | invinciblemutant | interesting accent...
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07:17:19 PM | GoodGuy | Trouble is forums promise not to sell your email address and do anyway
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07:17:28 PM | tic-toc | robbie's mic is weak
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07:17:44 PM | tic-toc | or something
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07:17:44 PM | EricKidd | Robbie is weak :)
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07:17:52 PM | tic-toc | ouch
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07:18:07 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...the guest's voice is louder
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07:18:24 PM | scott_L | Noone is ever weak when living in Barrie. lol :)
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07:18:32 PM | pyrosrock | hmm yeah chomium dont work either
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07:18:39 PM | pyrosrock | probs need to reboot
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07:18:40 PM | EricKidd | We're tough here in Barrie
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07:18:52 PM | _Jot_ | even Barry?
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07:18:57 PM | invinciblemutant | is there any possibility that the domain is blocked?
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07:19:06 PM | invinciblemutant | the api is then blocked?
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07:19:23 PM | invinciblemutant | it runs on webservice?
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07:21:23 PM | pyrosrock | got it working on a difrent com though
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07:21:32 PM | slipp3d | sounds like a great option
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07:22:09 PM | invinciblemutant | what if someone uses a secondary email which is legit?
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07:22:18 PM | GoodGuy | I have a couple questions for Gerold
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07:22:32 PM | Garbee | http://cat5.tv/badmail
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07:22:35 PM | invinciblemutant | instead of a disaposable email, dumpyard email?
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07:22:40 PM | tic-toc | bad male or bad mail ?
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07:22:48 PM | tic-toc | lol
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07:23:08 PM | GoodGuy | If a user of your service sells email addresses, do you have a capability of billing them for breach of contract?
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07:23:09 PM | _Jot_ | who is the bad male? RobbieF or EricKidd?
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07:23:42 PM | GoodGuy | I use Yahoo email so I am not locked into an ISP
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07:24:00 PM | albertr | @RobbiF - does Gerold's API use SPF and/or DKIM?
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07:24:02 PM | slipp3d | RobbieF, is my vote :p
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07:24:15 PM | GoodGuy | It will be a huge task to change to another email address from an ISP
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07:24:45 PM | tic-toc | Isn't Yahoo the most hacked email service?
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07:24:54 PM | EricKidd | cat5.tv/badmail
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07:24:54 PM | GoodGuy | Don't know
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07:25:03 PM | EricKidd | Robbie is the "bad male"!
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07:25:10 PM | GoodGuy | If I use a Comcast email and hand it out, they own me
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07:25:19 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, at least he provides the beer
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07:25:26 PM | EricKidd | Shhh!
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07:25:32 PM | GoodGuy | It is too much work changing email addresses to another ISP
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07:25:40 PM | albertr | @RobbieF - does Gerold's API use SPF and/or DKIM?
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07:27:12 PM | EricKidd | neither spf nor dkim
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07:28:24 PM | GoodGuy | I asked a couple
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07:28:24 PM | invinciblemutant | i am signing in...
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07:28:39 PM | Garbee | I wonder if Robbie will be using arrays tonight...
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07:29:06 PM | invinciblemutant | what will happen with usage exceeds quota
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07:29:56 PM | invinciblemutant | ok...found the answer myself...response: fail_key_low_credits
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07:30:33 PM | scott_L | I like the pricing, wish more services used this model.
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07:30:54 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...cool stuff
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07:31:50 PM | tic-toc | ouch, cut in half
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07:31:54 PM | gpop7 | Sorry i am late but i am here. Hello everyone
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07:32:09 PM | _Jot_ | hi gpop7
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07:32:43 PM | gpop7 | hello Jot
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07:32:53 PM | tic-toc | close enough
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07:33:20 PM | Garbee | Time to some tacos... See yall later.
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07:33:27 PM | gpop7 | hello tic toc
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07:33:33 PM | tic-toc | hello
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07:33:43 PM | pyrosrock | awesome!
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07:33:50 PM | gpop7 | enjoy garbee
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07:33:52 PM | Guest_2360 | nothing about Aaron Swartz
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07:34:06 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, it is just the program that will stop working, the service will keep working, because the protocol is the same as in skype
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07:34:17 PM | tic-toc | yeah, he's dead
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07:34:27 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, so pigeon etc should keep working
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07:34:28 PM | invinciblemutant | how about msn on yahoo, as yahoo and msn do cross talk
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07:35:40 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, don't put Spock in the box to disguise the weight and take the phonesystem home, that's not nice
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07:36:10 PM | scott_L | You meant $30/year?
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07:36:29 PM | slipp3d | very cool
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07:36:44 PM | tic-toc | can you get your number back when you leave them?
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07:36:46 PM | _Jot_ | welcome to 2000, canada
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07:36:47 PM | albertr | _Jot_ I think the name is Pidgin
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07:37:08 PM | _Jot_ | albertr that should keep working too :P
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07:37:24 PM | tic-toc | wow
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07:37:28 PM | albertr | hope so :)
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07:37:31 PM | Smittysmit | I live outside Detroit an hve a North Dakote Net Talk Duo (wired)#.
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07:37:45 PM | scott_L | Wonder if service is better quality than Magic Jack plus
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07:39:18 PM | tic-toc | hey, something good to watch...lol
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07:39:28 PM | GoodGuy | Every Revision show host was there or close to it
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07:39:48 PM | pyrosrock | RobbieF still got mics on!
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07:39:53 PM | slipp3d | RobbieF, mics are on
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07:40:03 PM | pyrosrock | EricKidd mics on!
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07:40:40 PM | EricKidd | Fine! I'll shut up!
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07:40:59 PM | _Jot_ | mics are only on on youtube :)
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07:41:09 PM | EricKidd | metube?
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07:41:12 PM | pyrosrock | lol ok
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07:42:00 PM | _Jot_ | it's a whole website about you, EricKidd
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07:42:21 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, yes, the audio is working on the video
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07:43:27 PM | EricKidd | _Jot_, from where are you watching? Via youtube?
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07:43:44 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, BSP, justin, and youtube
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07:44:13 PM | Smittysmit | We're trying to sell the LG EZ-Sign TV at work.
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07:44:21 PM | tic-toc | I like the girl in the red dress the best so far.
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07:44:46 PM | EricKidd | Tic-toc made me chuckle! :)
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07:44:46 PM | Smittysmit | Had one die after 4 months but a very cool product.
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07:44:47 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, you can see tech stuff everywhere on the web, but girls, not so much
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07:45:56 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: are you sure that the block-disposable-email.com works?
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07:45:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, where is the Category5.tv booth?
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07:46:40 PM | invinciblemutant | i have these in the bulk tester
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07:46:54 PM | invinciblemutant | 1) yahoo.com: OK (response from mirror3_amazon) 2) homelinux.com: OK (response from mirror2_chicago) 3) disposable.com: OK (response from mirror3_amazon) 4) temporarymail.com: OK (response from mirror2_chicago) 5) getairmail.com: OK (response from mirror3_amazon) 6) www.guerrillamail.com: OK (response from mirror2_chicago)
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07:47:07 PM | invinciblemutant | what does it mean?
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07:47:17 PM | invinciblemutant | guys, help?
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07:47:57 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, it is possible nobody used those before, and then they are OK-ed the first time but then later checked manually and might be rejected from then on
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07:48:42 PM | BDEA_Gerold | www.category5.tv/badmail does not seem to work.
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07:49:08 PM | invinciblemutant | try this robbie:
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07:49:10 PM | invinciblemutant | getairmail.com
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07:49:19 PM | Garbee | That email is fine. (The one w/o a TLD)
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07:49:36 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, it considers test@example.com good, that's not good?
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07:49:36 PM | pyrosrock | BDEA_Gerold its cat5.tv/badmail
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07:49:47 PM | BDEA_Gerold | OK, thanks.
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07:49:54 PM | pyrosrock | np
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07:50:00 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, It is actually a fine (and routable) email.
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07:50:21 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, yes, it is supposed to be used in examples, but it is not valid for user-purposes
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07:50:47 PM | tic-toc | :)
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07:51:17 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, your password '1234' has too few characters, use 123456 instead
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07:51:35 PM | invinciblemutant | lol...does not make any difference
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07:51:54 PM | invinciblemutant | shorter easy-to-guess password to the longer
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07:52:06 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: try bulk-tester
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07:52:46 PM | ajamison5579 | BDEA_Gerold what happens if you use shared hosting your server IP may change can you still use your service
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07:53:02 PM | tic-toc | I never like giving my email to another party...
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07:53:23 PM | pyrosrock | quick everyone bomb robbies ip
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07:53:29 PM | Guest_Harry | good evening guys,, I'm so mad ause a customer just got here at the last minute and lost all the show,,,but business is business
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07:53:34 PM | scott_L | Good question ajamison
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07:53:37 PM | tic-toc | crash party
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07:53:47 PM | _Jot_ | hi Guest_Harry, at least a customer brings in some business
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07:54:13 PM | _Jot_ | yay, now we can hack RobbieFs IP! It was 127.0.0.1 so hack away :P
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07:54:21 PM | scott_L | lol
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07:54:24 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, I see no mention of test@example.com being reserved. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3696
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07:54:27 PM | Guest_Harry | hahahaha
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07:54:45 PM | Garbee | The example domains are set aside for free usage, but that doesn't mean there is any routing restrictions.
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07:54:54 PM | Guest_Harry | and pretty sure pw is admin
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07:54:58 PM | Guest_Harry | or 123
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07:55:12 PM | Garbee | If you read the spec, test@example.com *is* routable. It may even be set aside, but it is *still* a valid address.
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07:55:14 PM | invinciblemutant | explode? split is used in most programming languages
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07:55:33 PM | ajamison5579 | inviciblemutant php is more violent that way
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07:55:37 PM | ajamison5579 | :)
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07:56:04 PM | invinciblemutant | therefore php is 18+ PG
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07:56:08 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, they are valid email-addresses, but they are disposable as in BDEA_Gerold service is concerned
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07:56:34 PM | Guest_Harry | what have I lost???
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07:56:51 PM | pyrosrock | Guest_Harry everything
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07:56:53 PM | _Jot_ | Guest_Harry, your innocence?
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07:57:09 PM | Guest_Harry | hahahabesides that, what was the first part about?
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07:57:29 PM | pyrosrock | Guest_Harry there was a thing about how to win a thing
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07:57:41 PM | Guest_Harry | what eva!
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07:57:43 PM | _Jot_ | there was an interview about the service you are watching now, and a video about CES from LEI electronics
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07:57:57 PM | Guest_Harry | ok thanks
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07:58:20 PM | ajamison5579 | inviciblemutant i think php has an implode command as well which does the reverse of explode
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07:58:45 PM | Guest_Harry | gotta run Bye!!
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07:58:53 PM | _Jot_ | there was also something about Guest_Harry winning his weight in gold, if only he was there but he wasn't so he was disqualified, or maybe not, who knows
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07:58:58 PM | _Jot_ | darn!
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07:59:01 PM | pyrosrock | quick RobbieF EricKidd time is running out
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07:59:54 PM | tic-toc | Do we get overtime pay for this?
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07:59:56 PM | robgor | erickidd dont argue you will get paid overtime
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08:00:01 PM | invinciblemutant | try a bad mail !!!
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08:00:06 PM | _Jot_ | we better get paid in extra beer!
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08:00:39 PM | EricKidd | $0.00/hr at time-and-a-half?
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08:00:52 PM | _Jot_ | that's your pay EricKidd, not ours!
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08:01:27 PM | _Jot_ | because of your pay, we were able to negotiate some extra for us
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08:02:00 PM | scott_L | lol
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08:02:18 PM | _Jot_ | it's working because we're getting extra show today :)
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08:02:20 PM | EricKidd | I'm glad I could help you out
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08:02:35 PM | _Jot_ | we're glad you're there EricKidd, it would be a whole different show without you
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08:03:11 PM | tic-toc | impressive
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08:04:34 PM | tic-toc | good show.
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08:04:34 PM | albertr | thanks for show ;^)
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08:04:47 PM | scott_L | Thank you guys. :)
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08:04:49 PM | invinciblemutant | good show...like the hacking show today...
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08:04:59 PM | Drumstick | Bye all!
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08:05:01 PM | invinciblemutant | thumb up to the hosts
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08:05:13 PM | _Jot_ | see you Drumstick
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08:05:13 PM | gpop7 | Goodnight everyone.
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08:05:18 PM | _Jot_ | goodnight gpop7
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08:05:32 PM | tic-toc | c ya
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08:05:32 PM | EricKidd | g'night! That was fun! :)
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08:05:48 PM | gpop7 | great show Robbief and EricKidd
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08:06:11 PM | gpop7 | UNtil we meet again
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08:06:24 PM | gpop7 | Until we meet again
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08:06:59 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Youtube live quality with hangout was poor as far as the main video for it was concerned.
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08:07:16 PM | _Jot_ | it's a lot better now after the show
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08:07:17 PM | invinciblemutant | i just found out the reason why it didnt work
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08:07:26 PM | invinciblemutant | see this in http request...
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08:07:39 PM | _Jot_ | it was really lousy and blurry RobbieF
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08:07:42 PM | Garbee | It got better as the show went on.
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08:07:50 PM | Garbee | But, was pretty poor for at least 30 minutes.
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08:07:59 PM | invinciblemutant | {"request_status":"fail_key_low_credits","domain_status":"ok","version":"0.1","servertime":"2013-01-16 2:07:51","server_id":"setzling"}
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08:08:18 PM | invinciblemutant | fail_key_low_credits ....urgggg...
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08:08:36 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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08:08:50 PM | invinciblemutant | and then domain status:OK
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08:08:55 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, psst, just go to http://www.category5.tv/tmp/badmail/
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08:09:12 PM | eyemeansit | this entire show, as well as last week's went RIGHT over my head. Not a web hacker. Oh well. Y'all are fun to listen to anyway
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08:09:24 PM | eyemeansit | or web master
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08:09:31 PM | invinciblemutant | yea...the best show ever....
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08:10:15 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I'll win anyway, just give those unclaimed prizes to me, you know you want to anyway
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08:11:26 PM | robgor | great show RobbieF & EricKidd
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08:12:19 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you can do something as the owner to prevent people from coming in, not sure what though
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08:13:52 PM | _Jot_ | EricKidd, of course it does depend on which side you are on as well, if you're on the same side as the dog, it wants to get out, and if you're on the other side, it just wants to be with you
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08:14:28 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, because of privacy?
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08:18:42 PM | _Jot_ | no RobbieF, google is not in 3D
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08:21:10 PM | Garbee | Robbie, I already knew nothing happens after the show.
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08:21:11 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, with the way some mis-pronounce the questions, you do need the extra time as well
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08:22:31 PM | Garbee | RobbieF, Did you see my Sublime Text demonstration?
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08:23:00 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, it did show on the bottom but I wasn't really watching
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08:23:26 PM | Garbee | I know it went there. I was just wondering if he happened to catch it.
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08:23:32 PM | invinciblemutant | ok..guys...gonna go
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08:23:41 PM | _Jot_ | have a great week invinciblemutant
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08:23:43 PM | Garbee | I was showing off some of the cool things, like snippets and go to anything within projects.
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08:23:43 PM | invinciblemutant | cya ...
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08:24:04 PM | Garbee | My dogs kept going nuts, so I was muted almost the whole time.
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08:24:31 PM | _Jot_ | it was interesting to hear you Garbee
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08:24:48 PM | Garbee | For what the two seconds I said something?
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08:25:06 PM | Garbee | Pop into one of the Webplatform Telcons, I can talk quite a bit there sometimes.
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08:25:11 PM | Garbee | Like I will be next week. :/
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08:25:45 PM | _Jot_ | I think it's always interesting to see and hear the viewers, because of the community-thing, not sure what RobbieF and EricKidd think of course
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08:26:00 PM | RobbieF | Thank you all!
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08:26:12 PM | RobbieF | sorry; was hard to keep up with G+, YouTube, Chat Room, etc.
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08:26:14 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:26:26 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, are you saying you are getting odl?
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08:26:29 PM | _Jot_ | old even?
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08:28:28 PM | Garbee | I'm off for the night.
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08:28:33 PM | Garbee | Hanging out so much was exausting.
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08:28:42 PM | _Jot_ | have a good night Garbee, good luck with the dogs
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08:28:51 PM | Garbee | heh, the dogs are fine.
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08:28:59 PM | Garbee | spoiled mutts.
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08:29:08 PM | _Jot_ | exactly :)
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08:29:11 PM | EricKidd | woof!
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08:35:51 PM | _Jot_ | sounds like you're trying some of the hair of the dog that bit you in that bottle, EricKidd
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08:49:13 PM | _Jot_ | Don't forget to drink your beer RobbieF
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08:51:37 PM | RobbieF | I'll remember.
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08:51:56 PM | RobbieF | I mean, I'll remember TO drink my beer. I might not remember HAVING drunk my beer.
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08:52:00 PM | _Jot_ | it was getting warm and you were sitting like that for a good 5 minutes, so I figured you needed a remember
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08:53:09 PM | _Jot_ | the good thing is, if you forget having drunk your beer, there's always more beer to be drunk in case you're not sure you needed some or not
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08:59:36 PM | RobbieF | perfect
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09:00:07 PM | _Jot_ | of course, you still need somebody to buy or make the beer, but that's a whole different problem
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09:11:59 PM | _Jot_ | what video is that RobbieF?
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09:15:23 PM | robgor | bugga Iam going to miss the live show next week :(
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09:16:21 PM | _Jot_ | robgor, at least you'll be able to watch it later
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09:16:38 PM | _Jot_ | nothing worse than missing something knowing you won't be able to watch it another time
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09:17:45 PM | robgor | yeah will be at hospital having tests and doubt I will be back in time :(
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09:19:23 PM | _Jot_ | let's hope everything will be okay
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09:20:51 PM | robgor | yeah its for an eco cardigraph, basically a test to check my heart
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09:21:05 PM | _Jot_ | good news, you do have one and it's working
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09:21:33 PM | robgor | I have one but not working properly :(
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09:22:07 PM | _Jot_ | then at least you know about that, so hopefully can do something, and hopefully the tests will help
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09:23:56 PM | robgor | yeah going to have surgery but at this stage not sure when, which makes it worse
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09:24:35 PM | _Jot_ | I'm sure we're all rooting for you, even EricKidd
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