Chat Logs for Episode 286 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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06:58:09 PMDave-Maydew Watching you on the Tablet
06:58:17 PMDave-Maydew and all is good
06:58:18 PMrevdjenk so, it is photo booth planning for a little wedding? eh, Abigail
06:58:20 PMAbigail Hello everybody! People and non-people
06:58:47 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: people or non?
06:58:54 PMPAULr lol
06:59:22 PMjaepea hi all
06:59:23 PM__New_Clay__ Hi All
06:59:40 PMrevdjenk hey clay
06:59:44 PMPAULr hello
06:59:49 PMDave-Maydew Hey Jot
06:59:54 PMDave-Maydew it's been a while
07:00:14 PM_Jot_ hi Dave-Maydew, it has been, we've missed you, RobbieF was even worried about you
07:00:24 PMDave-Maydew has he??
07:00:34 PM_Jot_ me too of course, but RobbieF asked about you last week or the week before that
07:00:55 PMDave-Maydew I'm fine, found I can watch on G+
07:01:17 PM_Jot_ yeah, including funny banter :)
07:01:26 PMDave-Maydew Yeah
07:01:38 PM_Jot_ 12th of march 2013
07:01:44 PMrevdjenk how many days, Abigail ?
07:01:50 PMDave-Maydew He almost forgot what day it was
07:02:09 PMrevdjenk yay
07:02:10 PMAbigail 73!
07:02:13 PM_Jot_ no snotty Robbie this week, yay
07:02:16 PMDave-Maydew and I'm into my 2nd week of no smoking!!
07:02:26 PMGoodGuy Congrats Dave-Maydew
07:02:27 PMDave-Maydew I am back!!
07:02:29 PM_Jot_ we only have to deal with snooty Robbie now
07:02:43 PMrevdjenk yay Dave-Maydew ! one of my church members just quit Sunday, too
07:02:49 PM__New_Clay__ Good for yu...Dave...keep it up!
07:03:06 PMDave-Maydew I shall now
07:03:24 PMDave-Maydew on the 7" Arnova 7G3
07:03:38 PMDave-Maydew Powered by Allwinner A10
07:03:41 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: non-snotty or snooty?
07:03:42 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:03:47 PMjaepea hi robbief ang abigail
07:03:54 PM_Jot_ I'm having dinner! I'm not drinking
07:04:17 PMDave-Maydew drinking plenty of coffee
07:04:19 PMDave-Maydew :-)
07:04:27 PMrevdjenk I have been using Linux since 2001, and still learn things from RobbieF
07:04:40 PM_Jot_ I'm watching using this amazing invention that I found, using light and refraction and some interpretation, it is someting that has to do with me, or with I, so I call it 'eye'
07:05:16 PM_Jot_ Only catch with joining, you may have to put up with RobbieF and Eric Kidd.... Which is great!
07:05:30 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: hee hee
07:05:52 PMjaepea =[ not rich cant go
07:06:06 PM_Jot_ all those inappropiate laughs are the joy of excitement escaping from Abigail
07:06:15 PMrats_ hi all
07:06:17 PMchrisreich I understand jaepea, I'm "between fortunes" myself.
07:06:20 PM_Jot_ hi rats_
07:06:33 PMrevdjenk I get G+, gmail and calendar notifications!
07:06:43 PM_Jot_ there is always the fortune of the category5 community
07:06:46 PMDave-Maydew Thats better watching on the 32" TV now
07:07:09 PMrats_ hi jot
07:07:13 PMDave-Maydew and through the Surround
07:07:15 PM_Jot_ Abigail, clips of very interesting things, like hours and hours just of Abigail laughing
07:07:17 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: your feed looks a little grainy and faded tonight
07:07:28 PMGoodGuy Is this The Meat on YouTube?
07:07:48 PMrats_ Hi Abigal
07:07:49 PMjaepea abigail = giggles =]
07:07:54 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, are you watching on youtube? that one is very low quality untill the high resolution one is uploaded
07:08:07 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: justintv
07:08:08 PMAbigail Giggle monstah!
07:08:17 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF or anyone else, is there a reason Ubuntu 12.04.2 hasn't upgraded my Kernel to 3.5??
07:08:24 PMAbigail Hi rats_!
07:08:32 PMjaepea lol
07:09:03 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, the lights and such are a bit different today because the backstage has a lot more stuff in it
07:09:12 PMrevdjenk pay the minister, and make your own! yay
07:09:13 PMwizardofoz Abby is the most purtiest lady of purty ladies on the show.
07:09:15 PM_Jot_ so the lights are in a different position and set up differently
07:09:22 PMrevdjenk -J
07:09:31 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: AHHH makes sense
07:09:53 PMDave-Maydew HD Cam, Zotac Z-Box and a LCD monitor with a MDF box!! PRICELESS
07:09:55 PMchrisreich Dave-Maydew - Ubuntu 12.04.x will not give you a newer kernel than originally "came with" 12.04 on day one. That's part of the plan for stability.
07:10:05 PMDave-Maydew oh and Linux <
07:10:06 PMrevdjenk I can do your wedding Abigail !
07:10:13 PMrevdjenk *officiate
07:10:20 PM_Jot_ I'd rent the category5 photobooth, but only if it comes with a brown curtain
07:11:20 PMchrisreich Dave-Maydew if you want a newer kernel than what is in Ubuntu 12.04, you'll need to choose a newer distribution. Understanding that newer is not necessarily better in all circumstances.
07:12:03 PMrevdjenk no green screen background?
07:12:11 PMDave-Maydew Hi Chris, no the downloaded version of 12.04.2 comes with 3.5 but my 2 PC's upgraded to 12.04.2 and kept 3.2
07:12:18 PMDave-Maydew it's a strange one
07:13:01 PMrevdjenk will you do audio, too?
07:13:10 PMchrisreich what kernel was in 12.04 Dave?
07:13:36 PM_Jot_ RobbieF is very cheap too, so that is good?
07:13:46 PMrevdjenk people could leave their blessings...
07:13:53 PMrevdjenk or sing a song
07:14:14 PMDave-Maydew in 12.04.1 it's 3.2
07:14:17 PM_Jot_ Don't forget all the drunken people later on the night that say stuff nobody can understand
07:14:20 PMrevdjenk a few
07:14:55 PMDave-Maydew and 12.04.2 should be 3.5 but that's only available from a fresh install of 12.04.2
07:15:13 PMDave-Maydew upgrade from 12.04.1 it keeps 3.2
07:15:20 PM_Jot_ wow, brown curtains! and they looked ironed!
07:16:16 PMrevdjenk and you can use the curtains later
07:16:19 PMchrisreich Then disregard what I've said about it. Clearly I no longer know what I'm talking about. They did not send me a copy of the memo with the new information. For the record, I'm not being snarky. Clearly things have changed and I've not kept up.
07:16:56 PMrevdjenk curtain rod size
07:16:58 PMDave-Maydew not to worry
07:17:10 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you could also do something with showercurtain-rings-thingies that you use to hang shower curtains if you needed to hang something like this
07:17:15 PMDave-Maydew I'm not worried though, 3.2 is running smooth
07:17:16 PMchrisreich I was describing the world as I understood it. You've given me new information.
07:17:37 PMDave-Maydew I'm also about to install 12.04 onto a Apple Power G3
07:17:43 PMGoodGuy White PVC is used in plumbing also... I used it to build a garden structure
07:18:00 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: they could borrow your brick wall!
07:18:40 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I see 'Home', I think that must be your home
07:19:08 PMrevdjenk eco batteries, get all the supporters
07:20:47 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you should switch to centimeters and stuff, much easier to calculate
07:21:29 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: half of 10 feet doesn't take rocket science
07:21:33 PMRobbieF Hahaha
07:21:36 PMRobbieF Yeah really
07:21:43 PMRobbieF although 13 was the correct count :) +1 for Robbie!
07:21:48 PMAbigail I got confuseedd! :'( haha
07:22:36 PM_Jot_ 'uhoh, I drilled in the counter'
07:22:42 PMAbigail Haha
07:22:49 PMRobbieF Now they know how the hole got there!
07:22:54 PMrevdjenk what great assistance! I'd shop there, if I wasn't 1200 miles (700km) away
07:23:03 PM_Jot_ 'That'll be 30.95 for the pipe, and 1922.95 for the counter'
07:23:20 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:24:03 PM_Jot_ poor RobbieF, they left him in the store and he couldn't find his way home again
07:24:11 PMrevdjenk for the next 73 days
07:25:26 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you might want to call somebody for the poltergeists
07:25:45 PMrevdjenk cheese!
07:25:48 PMDave-Maydew who ya gonna call??
07:26:03 PMrevdjenk warp!
07:26:20 PMGoodGuy Cheese works well on pasta dishes also :-)
07:26:21 PMjaepea cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
07:26:23 PMtic-toc CHEEEEEEZEEEE
07:26:35 PMrevdjenk hey KyleP
07:26:40 PMrevdjenk hey Kyle
07:26:43 PM_Jot_ by the way, last episode (with the photo booth part 1) was episode 279
07:26:51 PMrevdjenk oh correct, burst
07:26:56 PM_Jot_ so if you want to see the cheese, check episode 279
07:27:44 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/cam
07:28:02 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: you are just a bundle of info!
07:28:13 PM_Jot_ nah, I just type what I hear!
07:29:28 PMrevdjenk a 4-5000K light source, maybe a flood would be good
07:30:03 PM_Jot_ http://http://usbbutton.com/ needs windows to set up, but works without windows and such
07:30:20 PMchrisreich dude, close your legs up. Please.
07:30:29 PMrevdjenk that was longer than a second in between
07:30:57 PM_Jot_ RobbieF probably set the timer wrong, or there was some delay because of the recording of the show at the same time
07:31:22 PMrevdjenk never would have remembered cheese for that...
07:31:41 PMrevdjenk booooo
07:31:51 PMDave-Maydew Nooooo
07:31:57 PMtic-toc Blasphemer
07:32:07 PMrevdjenk tic-toc: hee hee
07:32:12 PMjaepea cheese and wine =]
07:32:31 PMDave-Maydew Stilton??
07:32:33 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
07:32:36 PMrevdjenk wow!
07:32:56 PMrevdjenk compared to $1000 for a rented booth, yes
07:32:58 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/sparkbooth
07:33:12 PMDave-Maydew OMG! I've not seen that Desktop in a while
07:33:53 PMrevdjenk in three...
07:33:55 PMrevdjenk two
07:33:56 PMrevdjenk one
07:34:08 PMDave-Maydew Blue Screen
07:34:17 PMrevdjenk white screen of wedding
07:35:08 PMDave-Maydew what happens if the Laptop BSOD's during the event?
07:35:51 PMchrisreich "In case of BSOD, drop kick offending device into the nearest large body of water."
07:36:02 PM_Jot_ Don't pay any attention to the voice behind the curtain
07:36:27 PMDave-Maydew Please wait while Windows crashes and reloads
07:37:01 PMrevdjenk nice touch
07:37:21 PM_Jot_ uploading pictures to the internet is dangerous, because it might get you banned if somebody does something 'funny'
07:37:27 PMrevdjenk you may want to check them BEFORE you inflict them onto the internets
07:37:31 PMDave-Maydew Ah, Twitter I live on that Social Network
07:37:52 PM_Jot_ 'To take a picture, hit RobbieF on the head'
07:38:06 PMrevdjenk don't pay attention to the RobbieF behind the curtain
07:38:10 PM_Jot_ aka 'To take a picture, hit the shiny button'
07:39:03 PMrevdjenk move kyle
07:39:28 PMDave-Maydew Please wait, Photoshopping photo's
07:40:02 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, isn't it dangerous to leave the button with Kyle? Think of all the pictures
07:40:08 PMrats_ Abigal
07:40:51 PMrevdjenk 50w cfl cool white flood would do the trick
07:41:08 PMDave-Maydew or if you want a tan
07:41:16 PMDave-Maydew 2x1kw bulbs
07:41:21 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, cheese is open source I assume? So you could program such effects in yourself if you needed to (and share it with others)
07:41:31 PMrevdjenk I meant 50w equivelent
07:42:25 PMrevdjenk use cron to setup the audio instructions
07:43:23 PMtic-toc Hang some cheese on it
07:43:30 PM_Jot_ Abigail, seems RobbieF already is spending your money and you're not even marrying him, are you sure you want to marry still?
07:43:49 PMGoodGuy Maybe they could setup a Paypal account in case Cat5 viewers would like to help finance the photo booth as a wedding gift sort of thing
07:44:03 PMtic-toc "1 billion dollars"
07:44:15 PMrevdjenk beeeeeellion
07:44:36 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, already done, http://cat5.tv/c
07:44:48 PMGoodGuy Cool _Jot_
07:44:50 PMrevdjenk yes, the sparkbooth actually looks impressive
07:44:52 PMPAULr yay, looks good
07:45:32 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, and if you want it to be for the wedding, send an email to live@category5.tv with info about your donation and that it is for that, I think, how is that RobbieF?
07:45:46 PMrevdjenk use it for puppet shows later, just shorten the upright pieces
07:46:26 PMGoodGuy The Wedding Booth may be the best episode ever.. Neat to solve the problem
07:46:32 PMtic-toc Or her old man can use it for a dog house later .....lol
07:46:35 PM_Jot_ Abigail, cheese!
07:48:05 PMrevdjenk tic-toc: hee hee
07:50:06 PMtic-toc gubuntu
07:50:15 PMchrisreich DRINK!!!
07:50:43 PMrevdjenk ubuntu is making a lot of strange moves, lately
07:51:42 PMrevdjenk but you need the iphone?
07:51:54 PMrevdjenk yes, the old parlor trick
07:52:24 PMrevdjenk on half the screen
07:52:53 PMtic-toc 2pac in 3D, the bullet holes look real
07:52:56 PMrevdjenk obi-wan we need your help
07:54:50 PM_Jot_ I'm going to buy one of those nettalks just so the category5 presenters can call me up for free and complain to me about me :)
07:55:10 PMrevdjenk mint, too
07:56:03 PMtic-toc 12.04 is more stable...12.10 buggy for me
07:56:07 PM_Jot_ wow, RobbieF is going to buy a 52 inch tv for everybody so we can see the show better?
07:56:16 PM_Jot_ hmmm I think I heard something wrong
07:56:30 PMDave-Maydew those effects don't work on my ATI Radeon 3200HD
07:56:46 PMAspidZent night ppl!!!...
07:56:53 PMrevdjenk oh, I can do that in chromium
07:57:01 PMAbigail But I want a 60" TV
07:57:03 PMrevdjenk just not on the desktop
07:57:13 PMAbigail Just kidding.... 56" will do.
07:57:24 PM_Jot_ hi Aspidzent, unfortunatly you missed the time-change, and most of the show live, but there is still after-show after it, and you can download it of course
07:57:53 PMAspidZent yeah... got it... was two days ago, wasn't it???
07:57:59 PMAspidZent ahead one hour???
07:58:19 PM_Jot_ AspidZent, could be, it was this week, but not sure exactly when in Canada, I didn't check
07:58:23 PMGoodGuy Spring Forward - Fall Back
07:58:26 PMAspidZent is RobbieF still here???
07:58:41 PMAspidZent I wanted to get in touch with him...
07:58:41 PM_Jot_ yep, show is still going on too
07:59:00 PM_Jot_ you can always email live@category5.tv too, that will go to RobbieF as well
07:59:17 PMDave-Maydew It's great for me
07:59:24 PMDave-Maydew Partialy sighted
07:59:24 PMAspidZent I've been emailing with him... but my schedule is bonkers right now...
07:59:32 PMrevdjenk cinnamon desktop will not work with compiz. :(
07:59:56 PMrevdjenk nice episode!
07:59:59 PM_Jot_ How many pictures has Kyle taken during the show?
08:00:08 PMPAULr good show, thanks :)
08:00:11 PM__New_Clay__ thanks and congrats on the wedding!
08:00:19 PMAbigail Thank you!
08:00:19 PMDave-Maydew Cheers Robbie
08:00:23 PMGoodGuy Great Show
08:00:29 PMAspidZent I stayed at home today due to sickness and I wanted to ask him about the streaming software he uses...
08:00:33 PMDave-Maydew It's nice to be back :-)
08:00:48 PMrevdjenk yay Dave-Maydew
08:00:54 PMAspidZent was it wirecast???
08:00:55 PMrevdjenk bye
08:01:07 PM_Jot_ yes, that's right AspidZent
08:01:19 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/wirecast
08:01:35 PMPAULr bye
08:01:51 PMAspidZent well...
08:01:55 PMrevdjenk to the aftershow
08:02:11 PMrevdjenk do we need to goto g+ ?
08:02:17 PMRobbieF Yes, or Youtube
08:02:20 PMRobbieF g+ you can talk
08:02:22 PMRobbieF youtube you can't
08:02:24 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/youtube
08:02:43 PM_Jot_ then click on the Category5.tv Live hangout
08:03:17 PMDave-Maydew Mrs Maydew got worried why we can still see you RobbieF
08:04:03 PMDave-Maydew Yup
08:04:05 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
08:04:23 PMDave-Maydew I'll have to dig out my microphone
08:04:42 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: very nice episode
08:05:17 PMRobbieF Thanks revdjenk. Nice to see you, and appreciated your great feedback!
08:05:18 PMrevdjenk i just don't have my cam on
08:05:33 PMrevdjenk thanks, I HAVE done a few weddings
08:05:45 PM_Jot_ we can hear you RobbieF. Unfortunatly? I'm not sure
08:05:52 PMDave-Maydew I be off to bed
08:06:06 PM_Jot_ have a good night Dave-Maydew
08:06:07 PMDave-Maydew it's past midnight and Debby has to be up at 6am
08:06:31 PMDave-Maydew I shall, and I will return
08:06:37 PM_Jot_ great!
08:07:00 PMDave-Maydew Goodnight all
08:07:33 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I hope you remembered to put a label or number or something on the pipes, so they are identifiable
08:08:27 PM_Jot_ also did you see the way Kyle folded the curtains? No weird creases there that need ironing
08:10:45 PMGoodGuy My wife color coded a tent frame to make it easier to reassemble
08:11:17 PM_Jot_ yeah, that's one way too
08:11:54 PM_Jot_ Abigail, the ironing stuff is from earlier seasons when RobbieF had a brown curtain that had weird folds in them that wouldn't go away with ironing
08:14:59 PM_Jot_ He's making them uneven? how odd
08:15:56 PMrevdjenk bye all.... next week
08:16:06 PM_Jot_ have a great week revdjenk
08:16:13 PMrevdjenk thanks _Jot_
08:20:35 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I would have put some more bags around the entire length of the pipe, just in case it gets dirty or something
08:23:17 PMRobbieF hahaha
08:23:25 PMRobbieF Please note: Abigail carried it out... very light.
08:23:29 PMAspidZent RobbieF, hi..
08:23:44 PMAspidZent are you staying there a little bit longer???
08:24:12 PMAspidZent I wanted to enable and test that thing we talked about...
08:24:15 PM_Jot_ the curtains looked heavier
08:24:19 PMRobbieF Hey Aspidzent
08:24:23 PMRobbieF great to see you again!
08:24:28 PMAspidZent indeed...
08:24:28 PMRobbieF like a ghost from the past :)
08:24:40 PMAspidZent a lot has changed on the show...
08:24:51 PMAspidZent all for the better I might add...
08:24:59 PMRobbieF nice AspidZent! I might not have the right software yet...
08:25:05 PMRobbieF thanks. I appreciate it.
08:25:18 PMAspidZent regarding that thing... are you up to trying it up now???
08:25:34 PMRobbieF video or audio?
08:25:41 PMAspidZent both...
08:25:54 PM_Jot_ one of these days, RobbieF might actually succeed at something too, I've been waiting for years for that :)
08:26:01 PMAspidZent anyways... we licenced a panel now for managing the streaming settings...
08:26:27 PMAspidZent I can give you the login and activate the appropriate servers...
08:26:27 PMRobbieF depends if WireCast can source it AspidZent. If not, I might have to add extra software, which I can't do at the moment; I have about 20 minutes and a lot to do during that time since we're post-show.
08:26:45 PMRobbieF great. Let me know the platform/codec and I'll see if Wirecast has what we need to test.
08:27:27 PMjoedemax what's this about Wirecast?
08:27:36 PMmbhavaraju Late...
08:27:37 PMAspidZent it's ok... I'll just give you the login... according to a post I read earlier today, wirecast can stream into the video server directly...
08:27:54 PMRobbieF great
08:28:06 PMRobbieF could you kindly email it to contact@category5.tv so I have it on file?
08:28:08 PM_Jot_ mbhavaraju, unfortunatly the show was an hour earlier because the time in Canada went to summertime this week
08:28:12 PMAspidZent the codec choosing is up to you...
08:28:31 PMmbhavaraju I know... I need to summerize my self.. :)
08:28:37 PMAspidZent of course... I'll set it up and send you the login over there...
08:29:00 PMAspidZent there is a strain of h264 that works everywhere...
08:29:06 PMRobbieF thanks let me know when it's sent and I'll login
08:29:07 PM_Jot_ mbhvaraju, if you don't mind a low quality version (with no sound for some of the videos) you can watch the youtube broadcast at http://cat5.tv/youtube
08:29:26 PMAspidZent once you set it up let me know and I'll test it in all our devices...
08:29:39 PMmbhavaraju sure thing.. I usually watch on main website itself...
08:29:47 PMmbhavaraju but sure can use youtube too
08:30:31 PM_Jot_ mbhavaraju, since the show just ended, RobbieF is still working on the high quality show, so the live hangout-thing is what you can watch right now and the rest later or tomorrow of course on the regular site :)
08:30:33 PMRobbieF sounds great AspidZent!
08:30:34 PMRobbieF thanks
08:30:34 PMAspidZent ipad (old and new), android (2X and 4)... appletv, googletv, etc... I don't have blackberry though...
08:30:47 PMRobbieF Oh man, that'll be exceptional
08:30:54 PMmbhavaraju sure will watch it later..
08:30:56 PMAspidZent I even have that windows rc tablet...
08:30:58 PMmbhavaraju thanks Jot
08:31:13 PM_Jot_ thanks to RobbieF for making it so easy to watch!
08:31:30 PM_Jot_ AspidZent, you have our condoleances
08:31:41 PMmbhavaraju Hey Ubuntu Masters... That's every one in this room... Except robbie.. ;) I am going to install big databases on my ubuntu.. latest version...
08:31:46 PMAspidZent I didn't bought it...
08:31:57 PMmbhavaraju any pitholes that I need to watch for?
08:32:04 PMRobbieF mbhavaraju will be shocked when they see tonight's show
08:32:22 PMmbhavaraju Really? Why?
08:32:27 PMmbhavaraju :)
08:32:29 PMRobbieF Running Ubuntu 12.10
08:32:30 PM_Jot_ mbhavaraju, try to use database software that actually is meant for databases, so things like postgresql or firebird
08:32:39 PMmbhavaraju wow
08:33:04 PMAspidZent postgres rules!!!
08:33:13 PMRobbieF That was random...
08:33:14 PMRobbieF Uh...
08:33:19 PMRobbieF mySQLi is pretty good!
08:33:20 PMmbhavaraju :)
08:33:20 PMRobbieF !!!
08:33:21 PMAspidZent mbhavaraju, is it for production usage???
08:33:27 PMmbhavaraju I thinking off Virtuoso
08:33:38 PMmbhavaraju No.. it's only for my learning
08:33:41 PM_Jot_ mysql (and mssql) don't do proper session-managment
08:33:55 PMmbhavaraju mysql I was able to install successfully..
08:34:10 PMmbhavaraju had problems when I want LAMP to working
08:34:11 PMRobbieF I said MySQLi
08:34:13 PMAspidZent virtuosso is a real hassle... I worked with it in the past...
08:34:28 PMmbhavaraju ohh didn't try MySqli.. will do that
08:34:39 PMmbhavaraju this I am trying to learn this database
08:34:44 PMmbhavaraju got fed up with Oracle
08:34:45 PMRobbieF I don't even know what the question is. I just was shouting out databases I like.
08:34:45 PMAspidZent open source software like proxmox really progressed in the last years...
08:34:46 PMRobbieF :)
08:34:57 PMmbhavaraju :)
08:34:58 PMAspidZent IMHO proxmox > virtuoso
08:35:21 PMmbhavaraju I was trying to install Virtuoso... was wondering any pitfalls that you are aware of
08:35:39 PMmbhavaraju http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/doc/dav/wiki/Main/VOSUbuntuNotes going to follow this notes
08:35:56 PMmbhavaraju PROXMOX... I never heard about it.. will check it soon
08:36:13 PMmbhavaraju thanks Aspid,
08:36:53 PMAspidZent In the past, the virtuosso setup I had to administer was oftenly illed by VM disk corruption...
08:36:58 PM_Jot_ I wouldn't use virtuoso from the picture it seems to store everything as text, which makes it difficult to index, sort and search
08:37:19 PMAspidZent proxmox is a dual-strategy to virtualization...
08:37:25 PMmbhavaraju for every one in this room... about 5-6 years ago.. Robbie is the person that help me or introduced Ubuntu to me... since then I am using it with no problems...
08:38:12 PMAspidZent it has the "soft" virtualization (compartmentalization) using openVZ, just like virtuosso does...
08:38:28 PMmbhavaraju cool deal Aspid..
08:38:40 PMmbhavaraju see.. I know I would get good advice here..
08:38:41 PMAspidZent and the full-on hardware virtualization with kvm I think...
08:38:47 PM_Jot_ I think a lot of people check out ubuntu because of RobbieF :)
08:39:26 PMmbhavaraju Thanks Aspid
08:40:11 PMmbhavaraju I don't know any thing about Proxmox or virtuosso.. any thing is new to me..
08:40:14 PMAspidZent although openVZ "virtualization" is popular... IMHO... the FreeBSD *jail* mechanism is far more superior...
08:40:31 PM_Jot_ but... I don't want to go to jail
08:40:32 PMmbhavaraju got fed up with Oracle and want to change my path from oracle..
08:41:12 PMAspidZent combined with ZFS... a proxmox|virtuosso-like setup using FreeBSD jails + ZFS is virtually indestructable... excellent for production stuff...
08:41:32 PMRobbieF Hey AspidZent did you send? I haven't received
08:41:55 PMmbhavaraju Aspid.. did you use it for creating any Datawarehouse or datamarts or only administering it?
08:43:01 PMAspidZent I assisted in a setup using those on a client's infrastructure... they where really pleased with the outcome...
08:43:17 PMAspidZent Sorry robbie... I wondered off...
08:43:37 PMAspidZent hang on... I'll get right on it...
08:44:20 PMRobbieF oh okay :)
08:44:22 PMRobbieF I'm out in 15
08:44:27 PMRobbieF but can leave it playing
08:44:29 PMRobbieF for testing
08:46:16 PMmbhavaraju Aspid Proxmox looks like a server for virtual machines...
08:46:48 PM_Jot_ mbhavaraju, I haven't set up big databases myself, but I know that Firebird has been used for those
08:47:06 PMmbhavaraju I don't think this can be used as a database itself..
08:47:26 PMmbhavaraju Ohh Ok.. thanks Jot..
08:48:17 PMmbhavaraju reason why I want to use Virtuoso or Netezzee or any other RDF/bigdata database is to see how these servers handle large volumes of data...
08:49:04 PMAspidZent mbhavaraju, my bad... I realized I was talking about Virtuozzo (parallels soft-virtualization platform)
08:49:33 PMmbhavaraju ohh ok... that's what I figured on first link that I got on proxmox
08:50:12 PMAspidZent mbhavaraju, if big data is the issue... have you tried apache SOLR??? mongoDB or some noSQL solution???
08:50:53 PMmbhavaraju I started reading on them...
08:51:00 PMmbhavaraju I read about noSQL..
08:51:05 PMmbhavaraju Netezzee..
08:51:29 PMmbhavaraju there is one site.. that I saw, they said Virtuoso beats all these three.. don't know how true it is..
08:57:02 PMRobbieF well folks, I'm off. Thank you again for joining us tonight! Hope you enjoyed yourself!
08:57:02 PMAspidZent just to be clear... you're talking about Virtuoso (http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/) and IBM Netezza (http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/netezza/), right???
08:57:04 PMRobbieF Have a great night
08:57:19 PM_Jot_ you too RobbieF, take it easy
08:57:23 PMAspidZent thanks RobbieF... have a nice night..
08:58:00 PMmbhavaraju Good night Robbie
09:01:08 PMmbhavaraju Ohhh noSql is like Hadoop... I installed it and working fine...
09:02:22 PMmbhavaraju Ok.. I am off... robie gave me new worm in brain.. 12.10... waiting for it
09:02:38 PMAspidZent Hadoop is like a distributed file server "service"..
09:02:47 PM_Jot_ don't worry, I hear you can get pills for those worms now
09:03:38 PMAspidZent apache SOLR provides the xmlrpc for retrieving objectized data and plugs into hadoop for it's back-end...
09:03:58 PMAspidZent how about MIR and rolling release???
09:04:02 PMmbhavaraju aha...
09:04:11 PMAspidZent thoughts???
09:04:29 PMmbhavaraju MIR.. heard about it.. but don't know... new to me..
09:04:40 PMmbhavaraju all these are latest technologies...
09:05:00 PMAspidZent mbhavaraju, sorry, went off-topic...
09:05:36 PMAspidZent that MIR and RR was for the public in the channel... MIR is the new display server cannonical is developing to replace Xorg...
09:05:59 PMAspidZent and they are also planning on turning into a rolling release...
09:06:24 PMmbhavaraju Ohh
09:07:33 PMAspidZent MIR instead of Wayland... as they announced a couple of years ago...
09:08:18 PMmbhavaraju let me ask you small student question... are there any companies using these databases?
09:08:58 PMAspidZent SOLR???
09:09:29 PMmbhavaraju MIR
09:10:38 PMAspidZent ???
09:10:56 PMAspidZent mbhavaraju, again... sorry... MIR is not a database...
09:11:22 PMmbhavaraju miREnvironment is a database that curated and collected experimentally supported microRNA (miRNA), one class of newly identified genetic factors, and environmental factor interplays and their associated phenotypes.
09:11:39 PMAspidZent I was talking about ubuntu in general...
09:12:06 PMAspidZent go figure... well... I don't know about the miREnviroment DB...
09:12:13 PMmbhavaraju :)
09:12:35 PMmbhavaraju I think we both are in two areas...
09:12:53 PMmbhavaraju One in database side... and another on systems administration
09:15:22 PMmbhavaraju I am out sir... Will meet you all next week... hopefully in time
09:15:25 PMmbhavaraju thanks ASPID
09:15:27 PMmbhavaraju thanks JOT
09:15:31 PMmbhavaraju have fun...
09:15:33 PMAspidZent sure mate...
09:15:37 PMAspidZent you too...
09:15:39 PM_Jot_ have a great week mbhavaraju
09:15:52 PMmbhavaraju thanks you too...

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