Chat Logs for Episode 292 — #Category5 on /


With 137 Posts:_Jot_
With 110 Posts:Dave-Maydew
With 64 Posts:revdjenk
With 61 Posts:Dave_Maydew
With 35 Posts:chaslinux

Chat Logs:

06:58:04 PMRobbieF Sorry folks; hangout cancelled. It turns out that is the cause of the issues we had last week. We'll figure it out, hopefully in time for the next show.
06:58:13 PM_Jot_ hello ErikaL, relax, you're early! You got 2 minutes for the show to start
06:58:48 PM_Jot_ Thanks for letting us know RobbieF! (Of course we know it really is so we can't hear what you're saying about us... like that thing you just said right now, that's really not done!)
06:58:55 PMDrumstick I did T0B33....still not quite right....
06:59:39 PMDrumstick Understood RobbieF...and show must go on!
06:59:54 PMDrumstick No worries look great!
06:59:59 PMGarbee --Very nice feature that new web pages should use.
07:00:50 PMErikaL ahha thank s everyone
07:00:50 PMT0B33 Nothing is loading for me :(
07:00:59 PMDrumstick Wish my Zorin had an audio EQ
07:01:00 PM_Jot_ Garbee, it's a browser-bug if a file opens instead of asking what you want to do with it
07:01:09 PMonewanman I am back watching from Firefox 21.0 looking good
07:01:14 PM_Jot_ Sorry T0b33, justin at least is working and the BSP is up too
07:01:35 PMGarbee _Jot_, This isn't for that issue.
07:01:43 PMGarbee You are talking about what happens *after* this fix.
07:01:59 PMT0B33 _Jot_: i am on a legacy graphics card and the 3D driver got D/C back when Debian Lenny was out
07:02:34 PM_Jot_ Great of you to join us and not giving up, ErikaL
07:04:07 PM_Jot_ Sharks live in water you know RobbieF
07:04:12 PM_Jot_ and piranhas
07:04:31 PM_Jot_ Major tom lives in water too! That is scary, RobbieF!
07:05:39 PMajamison5579 _jot_ Sharks will leave you alone for the most part unless you took a bath in raw meat
07:05:59 PM_Jot_ you say taking baths in raw meat is not a good thing? Geez, why didn't anybody tell me that before
07:06:15 PMchaslinux Jellyfish.... ouch!
07:06:27 PMDennis_Kelley anyone know how to get sound to work in Point Linux
07:06:28 PM_Jot_ good point chaslinux
07:07:04 PM_Jot_ I can turn foodstuffs into gas too, especially beans and such
07:07:16 PMchaslinux Oh Raging Ringtail is coming out... 25th I think...
07:07:56 PMchaslinux Oh Robbie, the Show Chat doesn't work for me... Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon.
07:08:03 PMDave-Maydew Good Evening all
07:08:10 PM_Jot_ hi Dave-Maydew
07:08:11 PMchaslinux Using xchat
07:08:43 PMDave-Maydew Hi _Jot_
07:08:50 PMErikaL hey everyone :)
07:08:58 PMDave-Maydew Hi ErikaL
07:08:59 PM_Jot_ chaslinux, the show chat thing on the website doesn't go to xchat but it opens a website-window
07:09:12 PMchaslinux No I meant I'm using xchat now
07:09:14 PMonewanman one wan man
07:09:19 PM_Jot_ hey ErikaL, nice of you to show up and not give up on coming
07:09:36 PMchaslinux Web site doesn't open a window for me... just pushes the Show Chat text down.,
07:09:49 PMDrumstick On PC? Biplane
07:10:01 PMajamison5579 Zelda
07:10:03 PMonewanman me 2 XCHAT
07:10:27 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF I grew up on the Sinclair ZX-81
07:10:29 PMajamison5579 Robbief I played Dragon Warrior and Zelda all day when they came out
07:10:33 PMajamison5579 lost alot of sleep that way
07:10:41 PMDave-Maydew wrote games like PacMan
07:10:42 PMErikaL Not pc
07:10:48 PMDave-Maydew I was 7
07:10:55 PMDrumstick Also Doom later....lost much sleep with it.
07:11:06 PMchaslinux Lol... nice Defender
07:11:06 PMJaePea1969 i am going to reinstall mint or project linux
07:11:24 PMchaslinux Think I threw up a Defendiguin screenshot earlier.
07:11:37 PMDave-Maydew Every Pixel is a ship lol
07:11:53 PMDrumstick Family has a Pong game
07:12:01 PM_Jot_ to private message RobbieF, type /msg Robbief
07:12:21 PMDave-Maydew _Jot_ now you're taking me back!!
07:12:22 PMchaslinux Mouse Trap on the Coleco Gemini
07:13:10 PMchaslinux Yes 81ish
07:13:20 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, that ZX Spectrum was about 1982-1983 or so, in case you're wondering when that was
07:13:34 PMchaslinux We had our Gemini I think in 1981 and it was a clone of the Atari 2600.
07:14:05 PMJaePea1969 missel commans on a 2600
07:14:12 PMchaslinux Nope 82...
07:14:15 PMErikaL thank you jot
07:14:29 PMDrumstick Sounded like a jet when you turned it on
07:14:37 PMDrumstick Still have it
07:14:47 PMDrumstick CGA was first then EGA
07:15:03 PMDave-Maydew Ah, the memories
07:15:51 PMDave-Maydew Metro-Droid
07:15:55 PMDave-Maydew on the NES
07:16:31 PMDave-Maydew I feel old now lol!!
07:17:02 PMajamison5579 the Zelda cartridge was the Gold edition or what ever where they used gold colored plastic
07:17:05 PMGWG Dave-Maydew: I grew up playing arcade games on a C64
07:17:21 PMchaslinux For RPGs really liked Temple of Apshai and Phantasie III on C64...
07:17:25 PMDave-Maydew SkyFox/StarFox on the Super NES/Super Famicom
07:17:40 PMajamison5579 *Must download an SNES and NES emulator
07:18:05 PMDave-Maydew We had patience back then to load games from a cassette
07:18:14 PMDave-Maydew do the kids know what a cassette is now??
07:18:31 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, I am disappointed when an emulator doesn't have the noise
07:18:34 PMajamison5579 I remember the old cartridge nemisis was dust
07:18:47 PMajamison5579 so blowing in the cartridge got it working again
07:18:50 PM_Jot_ and no, kids don't know audio-cassettes anymore, also not floppy-disks or diskettes
07:19:21 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, Atari didn't disappear, they were taken over
07:19:50 PMajamison5579 Robbief Atari also moved to Computer games for a while in the 90's but they failed misserably
07:20:08 PMDave-Maydew Gateway took over Atari
07:20:15 PMchaslinux RobbieF: Actually Robbie Atari lost to Coleco in court.
07:20:25 PMDave-Maydew or was that Commodore??
07:20:32 PM_Jot_ Infogrames bought Atari
07:20:43 PMDave-Maydew Ahh, I was close
07:20:52 PMchaslinux The Gemini took Atari 2600 cartridges....
07:21:00 PM_Jot_ I think that was to Coleco, chaslinux
07:21:09 PMDave-Maydew I had the Aquarius too
07:21:19 PMchaslinux Yes _Jot_ Coleco... the Gemini was the box... had one
07:21:25 PMDave-Maydew and the Dragon 32, Sharp MZ-800, BBC Micro
07:21:41 PMDave-Maydew I was a geeky kid
07:22:08 PMchaslinux I posted a picture of the Coleco Gemini on the G+ invite page.
07:22:08 PM_Jot_ I'm still a geeky kid :)
07:22:15 PMJaePea1969 my first puter was a vic-20
07:22:17 PMchaslinux I have one in my office.
07:22:50 PM_Jot_ I have a 27 year old MSX-2 Sony HB-F700P that I just bought a brand new MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD cartridge for, which came out only last month
07:23:15 PMrevdjenk that is noisy!
07:23:33 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, why are you playing a bugged rom, or viewing a bugged rom?
07:23:58 PMDennis_Kelley JaePea1969 - i had a Vic 20
07:24:01 PM_Jot_ poor RobbieF
07:24:06 PMrevdjenk We bought a 32K Color Computer in 1984 for $400...connected to TV and cassette recorder data storage
07:24:23 PM_Jot_ that's realy cheap revdjenk
07:24:46 PMJaePea1969 that game suxd
07:24:47 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: hee hee
07:24:56 PMchaslinux OMG... me!
07:24:57 PMDennis_Kelley I had E.T!
07:25:06 PMDennis_Kelley I did!
07:25:26 PMDave-Maydew How many of us used to copy the games out of the magazines and then had to go through the code to find the errors
07:25:43 PMchaslinux Compute's Gazette!
07:25:47 PMDennis_Kelley the E with the line was Elliot calling ET
07:25:56 PM_Jot_ that Sony I have now, cost 2100 Dutch Guilders when it was introduced, which is about 950 euros in todays money
07:27:24 PMchaslinux Oh... Paradroid... loved that game on the C64.
07:27:33 PM_Jot_ Pitfall is amazing, I never played the first one, but I bought Pitfall II
07:27:42 PM_Jot_ River Raid!
07:27:45 PM_Jot_ I love that game
07:27:49 PMchaslinux Yeah River Raid
07:27:50 PM_Jot_ but it's much better on MSX
07:28:09 PMDave-Maydew ahh, I forgot about the MSX
07:28:14 PM_Jot_ it's nice on the C64 too
07:28:28 PMDave-Maydew Spy Hunter on the Spectrum
07:28:31 PM_Jot_ but on the atari 2600 it sucks, because it doesn't have enough colours
07:28:44 PMchaslinux Attack of the Mutant Camels
07:29:26 PM_Jot_ River Raid on MSX:
07:29:58 PMDrumstick I played Star Wars
07:30:09 PMDave-Maydew OMG Colecovision
07:30:19 PMDave-Maydew Smurfs on that RobbieF
07:31:02 PMDave-Maydew Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy on the Spectrum too
07:31:08 PMDave-Maydew ahh, what a game
07:31:28 PM_Jot_ those are amazing too Dave-Maydew
07:32:04 PM_Jot_ poor ErikaL, she must think we've all gone crazy
07:32:41 PMDave-Maydew She's only a baby lol
07:33:11 PM_Jot_ okay RobbieF, you sold me, i'll buy it! I'll give you a whole cool dollar for it, how's that?
07:33:53 PMDave-Maydew I raise you 25p UK Sterling
07:33:56 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
07:34:34 PM_Jot_
07:34:40 PM_Jot_ best chocolate I ever had :)
07:35:13 PM_Jot_ Burger time isgreat too!
07:35:43 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, in Burger Time, you had a platform, with parts of a burge,r and you walked over them to drop them, untill you had all of them at the bottom, where together they made a buger
07:35:48 PMDave-Maydew Oh boy, I'm wanting to create my Mame Server now
07:36:09 PM_Jot_ I actually remember that off the top of my head :)
07:37:00 PMErikaL burger time sounds fun
07:37:18 PMDave-Maydew Piracy RobbieF ;-)
07:37:21 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
07:37:25 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, I'll tell you more after the show :)
07:37:43 PMDave-Maydew 10 Print "Hello"
07:37:47 PMDave-Maydew 20 Goto 10
07:37:50 PMDave-Maydew hahaha
07:37:51 PM_Jot_ 10 PRINT "Hello Category5!";: GOTO 10
07:37:59 PM_Jot_ darn, you were faster :)
07:38:10 PMDave-Maydew ;-
07:38:15 PMDave-Maydew Sorry Jot
07:38:18 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:38:25 PMDennis_Kelley you have to love basic
07:38:54 PMDave-Maydew I broke my teeth on BASIC ;-)
07:39:00 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, here in Europe, in the beginning of the 80s everything started, not ending
07:39:38 PMDennis_Kelley The Internet came into the world!
07:39:43 PMDave-Maydew Atari ST
07:39:59 PMDave-Maydew they made a bad decision with the Falcon
07:40:27 PMDave-Maydew The old NES
07:40:38 PMDave-Maydew I called it the Toaster
07:40:52 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, most of the computers we're talking about, are the kind you would hook up to a TV like a wii or PS3 except they were about the size of a keyboard, although a bit higher, and the whole computer was under the keyboard, so you could actually write programs on it and do things with it as soon as you had it connected witohout putting in any games
07:41:52 PM_Jot_ tetris was the end of the 80s already :)
07:41:59 PM_Jot_ or 2nd half at least
07:42:01 PMDave-Maydew Tetris is the only game my Mom will play
07:42:13 PMchaslinux ErikaL: Try Burger Space on Linux it's like Burger Time
07:42:35 PM_Jot_ Most of the games from the 80s are coming back in the same form but on tablets and mobile devices
07:42:57 PMDennis_Kelley I finally got Sound!
07:43:04 PMDave-Maydew I'm not a fan of 3D TV
07:43:09 PM_Jot_ great Dennis_Kelley! You found the volume button :)
07:43:31 PMDave-Maydew MAME
07:43:46 PMajamison5579 the Wii lets you buy old NES games
07:43:55 PMajamison5579 and even some Sega games
07:43:57 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, what do you mean emulators? My 27 year old Sony HB-F700P MSX works perfectly fine, and hardware and software is still being made for the MSX-system today
07:44:19 PMDave-Maydew I've seen a PSX emulator on Android
07:44:29 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_ _ Tahks!
07:44:31 PMJaePea1969 i had a vic20, c64, c128, amiga 500, a2000, and ran a bbs
07:44:33 PMDennis_Kelley *Thanks
07:45:02 PMDave-Maydew Running a BBS??
07:45:07 PMchaslinux I think they licensed the games... doubt the original authors got paid though.
07:45:09 PM_Jot_ JeaPea1969, I have almost all those, not a vic20, and for the a2000 I don't have the harddisk-card or drive with it, so it isn't very useful
07:45:14 PMDave-Maydew was you on Ham Radio or Internet??
07:45:19 PMDrumstick Many of the old games are now "abandonware" and essentially open season. Nobody claims them anymore
07:46:11 PMDave-Maydew I bought my Wife the Wii, she loves the Dance games
07:46:28 PMErikaL aweosme thanks !
07:46:52 PMajamison5579 Robbief you can even download old games via the Wii Store
07:47:14 PMrevdjenk wow! she IS young!
07:47:26 PM_Jot_ BBS means Bulletin Board System, it was using modems, and through telephone-lines
07:47:28 PMJaePea1969 bbs = bullitin board system.............pre-internet
07:47:35 PM_Jot_ It was the internet before internet, for home users
07:47:40 PMrevdjenk hee hee RobbieF
07:47:50 PMDrumstick My favorite Gamecube game was Ghost Recon
07:47:51 PMDave-Maydew Ahh, I ran one on Ham Radio RF VHF/UHF
07:47:59 PM_Jot_ of course in the 80s the universities and such got internet, but it wasn't for normal people
07:48:06 PMchaslinux Had a friend Mike who ran the BUG BBS in Barrie from 83 to about 85
07:48:46 PM_Jot_ RobbieF< it's only a preventive measure, so it can be cancelled
07:49:02 PMchaslinux That was an awesome BBS... something like 15 floppy drives all daisy chained together
07:49:17 PMArteVision Hi there from Mexico City
07:49:18 PM_Jot_ wow, that's a lot, must have been very expensive
07:49:18 PMDave-Maydew Those were the days
07:49:27 PM_Jot_ hi ArteVision
07:50:01 PMchaslinux I always wondered where he got all the equipment... he lived like a Pauper... I think at one point he was a teacher.
07:50:07 PMArteVision Hi I'm located down in Mexico City and I like your show
07:50:09 PM_Jot_ Hmmm I thought you shouldn't put sugar in a tank, I guess I was wrong?
07:50:53 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, new viewer -> ArteVision from Mexico City
07:51:40 PM_Jot_ chaslinux, maybe it was a bit underground, after all, having that many drives isn't just for messages
07:51:41 PMDrumstick Welcome ArteVision!
07:51:45 PMJaePea1969 i had a 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 14.4, and 56k baud modems
07:51:57 PMArteVision Thanks guys
07:52:20 PM_Jot_ JaePea1969, my first one was a 1200/2400 baud one, then I had a 9600, a 28k8 and after that I didn't need modems anymore :)
07:52:30 PMDrumstick I have all my BBS files backed up on 5" floppies....three boxes of them!! LOL
07:52:31 PMchaslinux Not BUG... lots of liability there... we had to have liability insurance. And back then we only had 300 baud modems
07:52:46 PMDave-Maydew BING = Because It's Not Google
07:52:48 PMchaslinux I do know we had a big library, lots came from TPUG
07:53:05 PMchaslinux Lots of Jim Butterworth software
07:53:07 PM_Jot_ yeah, lots of shareware and public domain back then already too
07:53:22 PMchaslinux Butterfield sorry
07:53:25 PMJaePea1969 my first hd was a 40 meg
07:53:28 PMDrumstick Ah yes! program EVER for its time
07:53:32 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, what is my new car doing there?
07:53:32 PMDave-Maydew I had a lot of PD and Shareware on the Atari ST and Amiga
07:53:39 PMEightMilesFromTJ I use for my searches. No tracking
07:53:43 PMsidney_ Duckduckgo
07:54:02 PMajamison5579 That is my prototype Doomsday Machine
07:54:14 PMsidney_ Also startpage
07:54:16 PMajamison5579 just need to arm it with some tactical lazers and some missiles
07:54:21 PMDave-Maydew Only a UK person would build something so cool
07:54:22 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:54:24 PMDrumstick Anybody want any old software...I have copies....many many titles... :)
07:54:33 PM_Jot_ JaePea1969, here my first 10MB one was on an olivetti M24 PC, later we had a Philips NMS9100 series PC with a 20MB HD
07:54:38 PMDrumstick I collected shareware
07:55:05 PM_Jot_ Drumstick, that's why I have unraid, so I can keep everything I collected, because you never want to lose that
07:55:08 PMDrumstick Only reason I kept a 5" drive....just to read those floppies
07:55:59 PMDave-Maydew g+
07:56:01 PM_Jot_ It's why I bought that new cartridge, i thas micro SD slots, so I don't need floppies anymore, after all, they don['t last forever
07:56:03 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:56:04 PMajamison5579 That spider thing can dance? You ought to make it kick box as well then you can at least use it for a practcal reason like kicking the west burea baptist church terroists
07:56:11 PMonewanman I still use my Windows 3.1.1 PC
07:56:29 PMDave-Maydew Yup
07:56:30 PMJaePea1969 seeing going from meg to gig to tara
07:56:35 PMDrumstick Wait til you see the swatter!!
07:56:37 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, wait, we are supposed to watch the show? I hope we won't get exams and get rated on it
07:56:45 PMDave-Maydew hahaha
07:56:57 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: shhhhhh
07:57:12 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: don't remind him
07:57:29 PMchaslinux Like a scene from Police Academy...
07:57:30 PMajamison5579 If nothing else it would scare the crap out of the opposing force in a conflict
07:57:30 PMDave-Maydew and a top speed of 5mph
07:57:51 PMDave-Maydew Run for the hills kids
07:57:55 PM_Jot_ When I was young, I used to read a magazine, and I found out the makers of it put all magazines online last year, so finally I have them all and can read them
07:58:10 PMrevdjenk It doesn't move THAT fast
07:58:40 PMDave-Maydew Glad she wasn't my teacher
07:58:41 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:58:45 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, you teach with horror? You mean you carry around pictures of RobbieF and show them to people to scare them?
07:58:57 PMrevdjenk KidFinderRobot Patent Pending
07:59:05 PMDave-Maydew I'd be scared for life
07:59:18 PM_Jot_ welcome back ArteVision :)
07:59:23 PMrevdjenk tackles!!!
07:59:24 PMchaslinux Maybe if they do another RoboCop he can sell the spider for big bucks.
07:59:38 PMArteVision thanks
07:59:52 PMDrumstick Thanks all!!!
07:59:59 PMDave-Maydew Great show RobbieF and ErikaL
08:00:03 PMDrumstick ...and for the memories
08:00:08 PMErikaL no problem :)
08:00:23 PMchaslinux That was quick... ciao all
08:00:36 PMDrumstick Bye all...
08:00:39 PMajamison5579 It dances it walks, It scares the pants off kids, ITs the amazing Spider Robot of Death!
08:00:41 PMDave-Maydew She probably scared the Bus Driver
08:00:42 PMrevdjenk ErikaL: hey kid, get off my lawn!
08:00:53 PMRobbieF :)
08:00:59 PMArteVision see ya around guys
08:01:02 PMrevdjenk I'll send my KidFinderRobot
08:01:11 PMErikaL Yeah Rev.jenk great idesa
08:01:15 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:01:15 PM_Jot_ I'll send ErikaL!
08:01:32 PMEightMilesFromTJ Bye
08:01:36 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: I couldn't get into the hangout, this week
08:01:46 PMRobbieF Hangout was closed, sorry revdjenk.
08:01:53 PMajamison5579 "Bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do, what you gonna do when KindfinderRobot comes for you!"
08:01:54 PMrevdjenk ah, that explains that!
08:01:58 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, that is correct, there were technical issues because of the hangout
08:02:08 PMrevdjenk like last week!?
08:02:14 PMonewanman thanks everyone
08:02:32 PMrevdjenk ajamison5579: hee hee
08:02:35 PMArteVision I had some trouble trying to get in the chatroom on your website
08:02:50 PMrevdjenk or KinderFindRobot
08:03:21 PMRobbieF Thanks all! Hope you had fun.
08:03:24 PMajamison5579 Give it some freak pre-recorded message on a loop to make it more scarey
08:03:24 PM_Jot_ ArteVision, the chatroom does get busy, so it doesn't always work well, but you can try a regular IRC client and join #Category5 on freenode
08:03:55 PMArteVision got it thnks
08:03:56 PMJaePea1969 bye guys
08:04:02 PMrevdjenk ArteVision: agree with _Jot_ XChat is great app for that
08:04:17 PMrevdjenk bye JaePea1969
08:04:18 PMArteVision Ok
08:04:24 PMArteVision thanks
08:04:34 PMrevdjenk ArteVision: what OS are you running?
08:04:52 PMArteVision Windows XP
08:05:15 PMrevdjenk then mIRC or X-Chat for you
08:05:31 PMrevdjenk ArteVision: when are we going to get you on Linux?
08:05:48 PMArteVision Ok. I'll try to follow your shows, promise
08:06:10 PMArteVision I'm not familiar with Linux
08:06:16 PM_Jot_ Category5 is a community, not just a show :)
08:06:27 PM_Jot_ it means everybody is a part of Category5 who watches too :)
08:06:29 PMArteVision I know
08:06:37 PMrevdjenk yay! Not to influence you, but I have run LinuxMint for the past 5 years and love it. It is great for beginners, especially
08:06:37 PMsidney_ next year XP goes bellyup
08:06:51 PMArteVision thnks for making me feel part of it
08:07:13 PMArteVision Yea tha's rithgt
08:07:14 PM_Jot_ you're welcome :)
08:07:31 PMrevdjenk ArteVision: and download the version that best fits your hardware, either 32 or 64 bit
08:07:44 PMrevdjenk glad you are here, ArteVision
08:07:53 PM_Jot_ Unfortunatly you still need XP or really Windows 7 for some games, but for most other things, Linux has a lot of alternatives, so learning about it can't be bad
08:07:57 PMArteVision Thnks
08:10:31 PMDave-Maydew Just come back to say Goodnight everyone
08:10:40 PMDave-Maydew I shall be back next week
08:10:49 PM_Jot_ good night everyone Dave-Maydew :)
08:11:01 PMrevdjenk bye Dave-Maydew
08:11:03 PMDave-Maydew Good Night _Jot_
08:11:19 PMDave-Maydew and I'm on Twitter everyday if anyone wants to follow
08:11:40 PMDave-Maydew and I'm planning to start a blog on beginners into Linux and Android
08:11:41 PMrevdjenk Dave-Maydew: do you use G+?
08:11:50 PMDave-Maydew I'm on G+ too
08:11:54 PMrevdjenk great!
08:12:06 PMDave-Maydew must start using it more as I live on my Tablet PC lol
08:12:30 PMDave-Maydew I use a cheap but nice Arnova 7G3
08:12:48 PM_Jot_ you must have really close neighbours Dave-Maydew, those tablets aren't big
08:12:50 PMDave-Maydew hacked to see the 32Gb SDCard as Internal storage
08:13:04 PMrevdjenk have a lenovo 9" android
08:13:42 PMDave-Maydew I like the Arnova 7G3, and I shall be having the Samsung Nexus phone soon too
08:14:06 PMDave-Maydew I want to try Ubuntu Touch lol
08:15:50 PM_Jot_ doesn't it look like the regular Ubuntu, Dave-Maydew?
08:17:10 PMDave-Maydew almost
08:17:29 PMDave-Maydew sorry for the delay, just chatting to the wife
08:17:45 PM_Jot_ they are important, wifes :)
08:17:45 PMDave-Maydew she's off to bed, and I'll be going shortly
08:17:52 PMrevdjenk there is only one dave maydew on G+, it must be you?
08:17:59 PMDave-Maydew She thinks she's the boss
08:18:03 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
08:18:26 PMDave-Maydew if it's a man with glasses and a goattee
08:18:29 PMDave-Maydew thats me
08:18:48 PM_Jot_ glasses and hair? Sounds like somebody who has something to hide
08:18:50 PMrevdjenk Dave-Maydew: actually it doesn't have a pic... hm
08:18:58 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: hee hee
08:19:09 PMDave-Maydew ah, look for David Maydew
08:19:12 PMDave-Maydew sorry
08:19:35 PMDave-Maydew my gmail is
08:19:36 PMrevdjenk ah yes, DAVID!
08:20:06 PMDave-Maydew :-)
08:20:42 PMRobbieF Hey folks
08:20:50 PM_Jot_ hey RobbieF
08:20:52 PMDave-Maydew I used to use FB a lot till I got my first smartphone, and now live on Twitter and starting to use G+
08:21:03 PMDave-Maydew Hey RobbieF
08:21:26 PM_Jot_ nice game, I got 5820 points, but it only works on IE, and not firefox, and firefox won't let me login anymore. It could be my PC, windows, you know
08:21:32 PMrevdjenk hey RobbieF
08:21:53 PMRobbieF You guys have fun tonight?
08:21:57 PMDave-Maydew Since hacking my 4Gb Arnova 7G3 to 32Gb. I've installed Firefox on it
08:22:02 PMDave-Maydew Lots of FUN
08:22:10 PMRobbieF Glad to hear it :)
08:22:13 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, not enough! We have to do this again next week
08:22:16 PMDave-Maydew bought the memories flooding back
08:22:23 PMRobbieF Deal _Jot_
08:22:28 PMRobbieF that was the hope
08:22:31 PM_Jot_ You haven't even mentioned Konami and so on\
08:22:36 PMRobbieF ha
08:22:36 PMDave-Maydew as soon as you've uploaded the latest episode I'll let my Dad know
08:22:45 PMRobbieF no, I couldn't mention everything... it's just a bit of a throwback
08:22:47 PMDave-Maydew as he's got Podkicker on his Tablet
08:22:53 PMRobbieF nice
08:23:02 PM_Jot_ did I mention MSX yet? I mean, really, 25-30 year old computers that still have new hardware and software being made is amazing
08:23:11 PMDave-Maydew and I'll get him to watch, especially with the old games
08:23:24 PMRobbieF Just takes us right back, doesn't it?
08:23:38 PM_Jot_ back? I'm in the middle of it still
08:23:47 PMDave-Maydew I'm 38, I was bought up on the old home computers back in 80/81
08:24:14 PMRobbieF Vic20 for me
08:24:24 PM_Jot_ Just today I was sorting through my C64 collection of software, looking for double disks that I didn't need cause I had them already
08:24:24 PMGWG C64
08:24:32 PMGWG I didn't get a Vic20 till later.
08:24:34 PMDave-Maydew if it wasn't for my Dad who kept buying me a computer each christmas, I wouldn't be into them as I am now
08:24:52 PMDave-Maydew Debby, my wife, always blames him lol
08:25:21 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF, you can't be much older/younger than me
08:25:23 PM_Jot_ I think everybody who has to or wants to use computers should first use computers like the C64, MSX and spectrums to discover how much fun they are
08:25:56 PMDave-Maydew that's true _Jot_
08:25:57 PM_Jot_ not things like the atari 2600 and coleco, because they don't have keyboards so no programming and such, which is half the fun
08:26:43 PMrevdjenk Dave-Maydew: a new one every year? wow! nice
08:26:53 PMrevdjenk Dave-Maydew: which was your favorite
08:27:31 PM_Jot_ At the time I had no idea what they cost, but I do wonder how my parents could afford the computers, I know later one of them was sponsored by the government and companies because of the PC at home projects
08:28:48 PMDave-Maydew Mmmm, I was a Sinclair man
08:28:49 PMDave-Maydew lol
08:29:00 PMDave-Maydew but I did like the Dragon32 & 64
08:29:34 PM_Jot_ I started with the Sinclairs too, I have a few Spectrum 48Ks and 128Ks here, some working, some not, but with internet, free access to service manuals so I can actually fix them I'm sure
08:29:52 PMDave-Maydew wow!!
08:30:14 PMDave-Maydew I still have a Spectrum 128k around my parents that still works
08:30:30 PMDave-Maydew and a BBC Micro with the 5.25" Floppy Drives
08:31:07 PM_Jot_ I have two 48ks and two 128ks, one of each works, and also a Dragon (I think) keyboard that you bought and put the spectrum-mainboard in, which has a spectrum 48k in it too
08:32:23 PMrevdjenk I had the color computer which I believe, was similar to the Dragons
08:32:55 PM_Jot_ no, it's a lo-profile keyboard
08:33:05 PMrevdjenk I soldered 32K into my 32K to get my first 64K machine later had it up to 256
08:34:04 PM_Jot_ or lo>>profile, I should say, it cost 49,95 pounds plus 2,50 postage+package fee, according to the ad that is inside
08:34:13 PMrevdjenk now a lenovo with linuxmint guy and lenovo tab with android!
08:35:03 PM_Jot_ that's great revdjenk, same with my MSX, it has 128KB ram plus 128KB videoram, and I have a 512KB memory mapper with it, but that isn't completely okay anymore, that new module has 64Mbit so 8MB memory with it, but that's mostly for storing stuff, not RAM
08:35:43 PM_Jot_ I have a VG-8020 somewhere too, it only has 64KB, which was already much compared to some other models, they came with 16KB and up
08:37:21 PM_Jot_ oh, there's some cassettes with my spectrum in thebox, an educational title, making words, OmniCalc 2, and Psion Chess
08:37:58 PMrevdjenk I moved too often to keep my coco with me! :(
08:38:29 PMDave_Maydew_Droi That's better
08:38:40 PMDave_Maydew_Droi I'm mobile now :-)
08:38:44 PM_Jot_ For many things, the real thing is great, but these days most emulators are so good, that they are like the real thing
08:39:06 PM_Jot_ Dave_Maydew_Droi, your name is growing, like a snake! Remember that game?
08:39:12 PM_Jot_ don't eat your tail!
08:39:21 PMDave_Maydew_Droi Haha yeah :-)
08:40:19 PMDave_Maydew_Droi My name should change again
08:40:25 PM_Jot_ Seriously RobbieF, you should get all the emulators and software, and teach your kids (and ErikaL who's pretty much a kid too and the rest) to use systems like these
08:41:28 PM_Jot_ I mean, learning skills, hand-eye-coordination, critical thinking, problem-solving and so on
08:41:29 PMDave_Maydew That's better :-)
08:41:45 PM_Jot_ and one life less, since you started over :)
08:41:48 PMDave_Maydew Didn't like Droid at the end :-)
08:42:02 PM_Jot_ it showed up as Droi :)
08:42:21 PMDave_Maydew So many games to choose from :-)
08:42:52 PMrevdjenk They are showing the new HTC One on AllAboutAndroid
08:43:13 PM_Jot_ back then I only had about a hundred that I had bought too, now I have almost everything that existed
08:43:15 PMDave_Maydew My favorite Arcade game was Outrun
08:43:44 PMDave_Maydew And Gauntlet
08:43:46 PM_Jot_ Outrun is great, but I think it was better in the arcades than on the home-computers, the feeling was a little bit different
08:43:58 PM_Jot_ Gauntlet is really good everywhere :)
08:44:02 PMDave_Maydew I agree
08:44:27 PMRobbieF Oh yeah!
08:44:51 PMDave_Maydew You too RobbieF?
08:44:54 PMDave_Maydew :-)
08:45:05 PMDave_Maydew Classic
08:45:17 PMRobbieF I mentioned playing the Intellivision at my uncle's house; Gauntlet was one of the greats.
08:45:51 PMDave_Maydew You're as old as myself then
08:45:59 PMRobbieF oh wait
08:46:02 PMRobbieF no it was on the 2600!
08:46:03 PMDave_Maydew Around 38
08:46:04 PMRobbieF wasn't it?
08:46:10 PMRobbieF I played it like CRAZY
08:46:12 PMDave_Maydew Erm yeah
08:46:14 PMRobbieF or was it NES?
08:46:19 PMRobbieF gosh I can't recall which system
08:46:21 PMRobbieF I think it was NES
08:46:28 PMRobbieF graphics were "too good" to be 2600
08:46:32 PMDave_Maydew It was across all the Systems
08:46:46 PMRobbieF but it was an atari made game, which is ironic considering what we talked about tonight :)
08:48:02 PMDave_Maydew The industry needed a good shake up back then
08:48:08 PMRobbieF and it got one
08:49:18 PMDave_Maydew And it's going full circle again now, especially with the fall IBC PC sales thanks mainly to Windows 8 and people wanting Tablet devices
08:49:36 PMDave_Maydew Oops predictive text
08:50:15 PMRobbieF yep
08:50:21 PMrevdjenk you gamers... although I played some simple games with my CoCo, I was using it in typing papers and researching... using mosaic through OS9
08:50:52 PMDave_Maydew Does anyone know of a good IRC app for Android?
08:51:05 PMGWG Dave_Maydew: Free or paid?
08:51:19 PMrevdjenk andirc? I installed by haven't used it yet
08:51:21 PMGWG Free try YAAIC
08:51:21 PMDave_Maydew Either
08:51:37 PMrevdjenk androirc
08:51:44 PMGWG Paid I like AndroidIRC
08:51:55 PMGWG
08:52:05 PMDave_Maydew That's the one I'm using now revdjenk
08:52:10 PMGWG
08:52:12 PMrevdjenk ok
08:52:42 PMDave_Maydew I'll take a look at that one GWG
08:53:34 PMDave_Maydew I've even found a Sinclair Spectrum emulation app on Droid :-)
08:54:01 PM_Jot_ hopefully it has a good keyboard :)
08:54:05 PMGWG Dave_Maydew: Want a recommendation on a good Android podcast with IRC chat room?
08:54:06 PMDave_Maydew I'll have Manic Miner lol!
08:54:25 PMGWG I know one that does a live show
08:54:33 PMDave_Maydew Go on
08:54:35 PM_Jot_ World of Spectrum, Dave_Maydew
08:55:02 PMDave_Maydew _Jot_ :-)
08:56:01 PMDave_Maydew I use Podkicker for my Podcast collection on Android, and it works well
08:56:29 PMGWG Dave_Maydew: Try I know the hosts, they are good guys
08:56:33 PMGWG Right, _Jot_?
08:56:40 PM_Jot_ definatly, GWG, they are very nice
08:56:43 PM_Jot_ easy to talk with too
08:56:55 PMGWG _Jot_: Did you catch last night's show, with live music?
08:56:57 PMDave_Maydew I forgot about that one
08:57:24 PMrevdjenk allaboutandroid? GWG ?
08:57:37 PM_Jot_ GWG, no, I've been busy with cataloging and such of all my software
08:57:49 PMGWG revdjenk: While I like Gina Trapani, wasn't talking about it
08:57:50 PMDave_Maydew I listen to Going Linux and Linux For The Rest Of Us too
08:57:56 PMGWG _Jot_: Cataloguing?
08:58:09 PMGWG Dave_Maydew: That's Door's show, right?
08:58:11 PMrevdjenk GWG: just listing another android show
08:58:18 PM_Jot_ GWG, all my MSX, Spectrum, C64 and AMiga software :)
08:58:18 PMDave_Maydew Yeah
08:58:27 PMGWG revdjenk: I know it
08:58:31 PMDave_Maydew Another great guy
08:59:13 PMDave_Maydew I've chatted with door a few times, like I do with RobbieF
09:00:15 PMDave_Maydew I've learnt lots in the 4yrs of switching to Linux thanks mainly to them :-)
09:01:07 PMDave_Maydew And also Scorpio55 who I've known for almost 15yrs
09:01:09 PM_Jot_ learning is good :)
09:01:52 PMDave_Maydew Even with my sight impairment I still enjoy my PC :-)
09:01:59 PMGWG Dave_Maydew: I sort of met Door
09:02:16 PMDave_Maydew Nice one
09:02:38 PM_Jot_ I sometimes meet door too, but only when I bump into one or open it :)
09:02:50 PMDave_Maydew Haha
09:03:05 PMDave_Maydew I fell for that :-)
09:03:21 PMrevdjenk Watching along with all you, I am wondering if our using OS's other than windows and apple gave us more openness to be running something other than those, today
09:03:30 PM_Jot_ it's a different kind of door of course, but if somebody is called Door, well :)
09:03:38 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: hee hee
09:04:20 PM_Jot_ definatly revdjenk, because computers were much more inviting, when you turned them on, they were usable, and you could command them do do stuff
09:04:34 PM_Jot_ Not just click things that others made, but you could actually tell it what to do, you were in control
09:04:44 PMrevdjenk exactly!
09:05:03 PMrevdjenk I like fiddling...
09:05:17 PM_Jot_ and also, you had to do things in certain ways, sometimes even doing something right at the wrong time would be wrong, so you really had to learn too, but it was fun and understandable
09:05:26 PMDave_Maydew That's true revdjenk, if we didn't have choice, Billy Bob Gates would have taken over the world long ago
09:07:08 PMrevdjenk I actully used win 1.03 (still have the 5 1/4 5 disk/manual set) and geos ensemble was waaaaay ahead of it
09:07:13 PM_Jot_ The thing that I also notice is that if you get those old computers, and put kids in front of them, they will actually still go at it the same way we did, and enjoy it just as much too, even if the graphics and sound aren't as 'good' asnow
09:07:44 PM_Jot_ geos actually became free software, together with cp/m, source available and everything, unfortunatly through time much is lost
09:07:46 PMDave_Maydew I know I keep moaning about Windows, but they opened the flood gates (Oops pun not intended!) To other Systems
09:08:19 PM_Jot_ Microsoft commercialized everything, they never made anything themselfs
09:08:29 PMDave_Maydew Correct
09:08:37 PMrevdjenk Vista brought me to Linux, although I had been using a Sharp Zaurus pda for a few years before that
09:08:46 PMDave_Maydew Same here
09:08:53 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: yes!
09:09:24 PM_Jot_ I've been interested in linux since the early 90s, slackware 0.something, still have some cds and such of that time with those distributions
09:09:26 PMDave_Maydew I used XP till I was bought a Vista Netbook
09:10:01 PMDave_Maydew That was 2009
09:10:25 PMDave_Maydew Now I'm just running Linux and Android
09:10:29 PM_Jot_ I've seen vista on people's pc, so I skipped that, went to windows 7 when that was available
09:10:44 PM_Jot_ probably will install windows 8.1 when that is out, to see if it is improved as much as they say
09:11:23 PMDave_Maydew I've tried 8, that lasted all of 10 minutes
09:11:23 PMrevdjenk What really helped me is that I noticed that I was already running GMP firefox audacity openoffice (star office before that) and decided that I wanted the OS that these were designed for.
09:12:16 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: the newest rumors is that MS is actually putting a "start" button back in... start menu is a ?
09:12:45 PMDave_Maydew My mainly hobby is Amateur Radio, and seeing other operators using the OS got me interested
09:12:49 PM_Jot_ yeah, revdjenk, that's why I want to see what they did :) and I'll get it as part of technet, so it won't cost anything
09:13:11 PM_Jot_ Being able to communicate in different ways is very useful, Dave_Maydew
09:13:23 PMDave_Maydew Correct
09:14:01 PMDave_Maydew I have my radio's connected to my Linux box now
09:14:15 PMDave_Maydew It's fun
09:14:34 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: doesn't hurt to check it out. I was "un"sold watching a computer repair store owner playing with it, having everything (then) full screen, and programs in the background stopped functioning... like downloads in IE which would stop once moving away to another app.
09:14:57 PMDave_Maydew Anyway, I must go to bed, off to the inlaws in the morning
09:15:16 PMRobbieF night Dave
09:15:18 PMrevdjenk I'm a two screen (tab/laptop) worker, now... each have its strengths!
09:15:18 PM_Jot_ good luck with the interview Dave_Maydew and sleep well :)
09:15:19 PMRobbieF nice to see you
09:15:28 PMrevdjenk g'nite Dave_Maydew
09:15:39 PMDave_Maydew Interview?
09:15:48 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, that tree and door you ran in too totally jumped in your path, I saw it!
09:16:05 PM_Jot_ oh, inlaws, same thing, horrible events :)
09:16:10 PM_Jot_ sorry, didn't read it properly :)
09:16:16 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: oh jot!
09:16:22 PMDave_Maydew I'm seeing the inlaws lol!
09:16:42 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: your autoread needs tweaking
09:16:56 PMDave_Maydew Goodnight from the Black Country part of the UK
09:17:34 PMDave_Maydew Where we all talk funny ;-)
09:17:40 PM_Jot_ I think I need different glasses :)
09:17:51 PMrevdjenk Dave_Maydew: I'll tell you about my birmingham friends someday
09:17:54 PMDave_Maydew Binoculars lol
09:18:02 PMDave_Maydew Goodnight
09:18:52 PMrevdjenk well, I need to complete a homily for a funeral in the morning...night gents!
09:19:19 PMDave_Maydew I'll be around more often now I've got IRC on the Tablet
09:19:26 PMDave_Maydew Goodnight revdjenk
09:19:34 PM_Jot_ always nice to see you Dave_Maydew! Sleep well
09:19:35 PMDave_Maydew Chat soon
09:19:52 PMDave_Maydew Headache Free still too
09:19:58 PMDave_Maydew :-)
09:20:11 PMDave_Maydew Night all


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