06:58:04 PM | RobbieF | Sorry folks; hangout cancelled. It turns out that is the cause of the issues we had last week. We'll figure it out, hopefully in time for the next show.
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06:58:13 PM | _Jot_ | hello ErikaL, relax, you're early! You got 2 minutes for the show to start
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06:58:48 PM | _Jot_ | Thanks for letting us know RobbieF! (Of course we know it really is so we can't hear what you're saying about us... like that thing you just said right now, that's really not done!)
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06:58:55 PM | Drumstick | I did T0B33....still not quite right....
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06:59:39 PM | Drumstick | Understood RobbieF...and show must go on!
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06:59:54 PM | Drumstick | No worries ErikaL...you look great!
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06:59:59 PM | Garbee | http://goo.gl/h5Nqq --Very nice feature that new web pages should use.
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07:00:50 PM | ErikaL | ahha thank s everyone
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07:00:50 PM | T0B33 | Nothing is loading for me :(
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07:00:59 PM | Drumstick | Wish my Zorin had an audio EQ
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07:01:00 PM | _Jot_ | Garbee, it's a browser-bug if a file opens instead of asking what you want to do with it
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07:01:09 PM | onewanman | I am back watching from Firefox 21.0 looking good
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07:01:14 PM | _Jot_ | Sorry T0b33, justin at least is working and the BSP is up too
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07:01:35 PM | Garbee | _Jot_, This isn't for that issue.
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07:01:43 PM | Garbee | You are talking about what happens *after* this fix.
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07:01:59 PM | T0B33 | _Jot_: i am on a legacy graphics card and the 3D driver got D/C back when Debian Lenny was out
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07:02:34 PM | _Jot_ | Great of you to join us and not giving up, ErikaL
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07:04:07 PM | _Jot_ | Sharks live in water you know RobbieF
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07:04:12 PM | _Jot_ | and piranhas
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07:04:31 PM | _Jot_ | Major tom lives in water too! That is scary, RobbieF!
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07:05:39 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ Sharks will leave you alone for the most part unless you took a bath in raw meat
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07:05:59 PM | _Jot_ | you say taking baths in raw meat is not a good thing? Geez, why didn't anybody tell me that before
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07:06:15 PM | chaslinux | Jellyfish.... ouch!
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07:06:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | anyone know how to get sound to work in Point Linux
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07:06:28 PM | _Jot_ | good point chaslinux
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07:07:04 PM | _Jot_ | I can turn foodstuffs into gas too, especially beans and such
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07:07:16 PM | chaslinux | Oh Raging Ringtail is coming out... 25th I think...
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07:07:56 PM | chaslinux | Oh Robbie, the Show Chat doesn't work for me... Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon.
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07:08:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | Good Evening all
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07:08:10 PM | _Jot_ | hi Dave-Maydew
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07:08:11 PM | chaslinux | Using xchat
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07:08:43 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hi _Jot_
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07:08:50 PM | ErikaL | hey everyone :)
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07:08:58 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hi ErikaL
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07:08:59 PM | _Jot_ | chaslinux, the show chat thing on the website doesn't go to xchat but it opens a website-window
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07:09:12 PM | chaslinux | No I meant I'm using xchat now
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07:09:14 PM | onewanman | one wan man
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07:09:19 PM | _Jot_ | hey ErikaL, nice of you to show up and not give up on coming
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07:09:36 PM | chaslinux | Web site doesn't open a window for me... just pushes the Show Chat text down.,
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07:09:49 PM | Drumstick | On PC? Biplane
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07:10:01 PM | ajamison5579 | Zelda
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07:10:03 PM | onewanman | me 2 XCHAT
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07:10:27 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF I grew up on the Sinclair ZX-81
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07:10:29 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief I played Dragon Warrior and Zelda all day when they came out
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07:10:33 PM | ajamison5579 | lost alot of sleep that way
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07:10:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | wrote games like PacMan
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07:10:42 PM | ErikaL | Not pc
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07:10:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | I was 7
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07:10:55 PM | Drumstick | Also Doom later....lost much sleep with it.
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07:11:06 PM | chaslinux | Lol... nice Defender
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07:11:06 PM | JaePea1969 | i am going to reinstall mint or project linux
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07:11:24 PM | chaslinux | Think I threw up a Defendiguin screenshot earlier.
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07:11:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | Every Pixel is a ship lol
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07:11:53 PM | Drumstick | Family has a Pong game
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07:12:01 PM | _Jot_ | to private message RobbieF, type /msg Robbief
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07:12:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | _Jot_ now you're taking me back!!
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07:12:22 PM | chaslinux | Mouse Trap on the Coleco Gemini
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07:13:10 PM | chaslinux | Yes 81ish
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07:13:20 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, that ZX Spectrum was about 1982-1983 or so, in case you're wondering when that was
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07:13:34 PM | chaslinux | We had our Gemini I think in 1981 and it was a clone of the Atari 2600.
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07:14:05 PM | JaePea1969 | missel commans on a 2600
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07:14:12 PM | chaslinux | Nope 82...
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07:14:15 PM | ErikaL | thank you jot
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07:14:29 PM | Drumstick | Sounded like a jet when you turned it on
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07:14:37 PM | Drumstick | Still have it
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07:14:47 PM | Drumstick | CGA was first then EGA
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07:15:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ah, the memories
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07:15:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | Metro-Droid
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07:15:55 PM | Dave-Maydew | on the NES
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07:16:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | I feel old now lol!!
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07:17:02 PM | ajamison5579 | the Zelda cartridge was the Gold edition or what ever where they used gold colored plastic
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07:17:05 PM | GWG | Dave-Maydew: I grew up playing arcade games on a C64
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07:17:21 PM | chaslinux | For RPGs really liked Temple of Apshai and Phantasie III on C64...
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07:17:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | SkyFox/StarFox on the Super NES/Super Famicom
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07:17:40 PM | ajamison5579 | *Must download an SNES and NES emulator
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07:18:05 PM | Dave-Maydew | We had patience back then to load games from a cassette
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07:18:14 PM | Dave-Maydew | do the kids know what a cassette is now??
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07:18:31 PM | _Jot_ | Dave-Maydew, I am disappointed when an emulator doesn't have the noise
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07:18:34 PM | ajamison5579 | I remember the old cartridge nemisis was dust
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07:18:47 PM | ajamison5579 | so blowing in the cartridge got it working again
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07:18:50 PM | _Jot_ | and no, kids don't know audio-cassettes anymore, also not floppy-disks or diskettes
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07:19:21 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, Atari didn't disappear, they were taken over
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07:19:50 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief Atari also moved to Computer games for a while in the 90's but they failed misserably
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07:20:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | Gateway took over Atari
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07:20:15 PM | chaslinux | RobbieF: Actually Robbie Atari lost to Coleco in court.
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07:20:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | or was that Commodore??
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07:20:32 PM | _Jot_ | Infogrames bought Atari
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07:20:43 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ahh, I was close
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07:20:52 PM | chaslinux | The Gemini took Atari 2600 cartridges....
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07:21:00 PM | _Jot_ | I think that was to Coleco, chaslinux
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07:21:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | I had the Aquarius too
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07:21:19 PM | chaslinux | Yes _Jot_ Coleco... the Gemini was the box... had one
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07:21:25 PM | Dave-Maydew | and the Dragon 32, Sharp MZ-800, BBC Micro
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07:21:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | I was a geeky kid
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07:22:08 PM | chaslinux | I posted a picture of the Coleco Gemini on the G+ invite page.
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07:22:08 PM | _Jot_ | I'm still a geeky kid :)
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07:22:15 PM | JaePea1969 | my first puter was a vic-20
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07:22:17 PM | chaslinux | I have one in my office.
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07:22:50 PM | _Jot_ | I have a 27 year old MSX-2 Sony HB-F700P that I just bought a brand new MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD cartridge for, which came out only last month
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07:23:15 PM | revdjenk | that is noisy!
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07:23:33 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, why are you playing a bugged rom, or viewing a bugged rom?
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07:23:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | JaePea1969 - i had a Vic 20
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07:24:01 PM | _Jot_ | poor RobbieF
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07:24:06 PM | revdjenk | We bought a 32K Color Computer in 1984 for $400...connected to TV and cassette recorder data storage
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07:24:23 PM | _Jot_ | that's realy cheap revdjenk
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07:24:46 PM | JaePea1969 | that game suxd
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07:24:47 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: hee hee
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07:24:56 PM | chaslinux | OMG... me!
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07:24:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I had E.T!
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07:25:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I did!
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07:25:26 PM | Dave-Maydew | How many of us used to copy the games out of the magazines and then had to go through the code to find the errors
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07:25:43 PM | chaslinux | Compute's Gazette!
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07:25:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | the E with the line was Elliot calling ET
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07:25:56 PM | _Jot_ | that Sony I have now, cost 2100 Dutch Guilders when it was introduced, which is about 950 euros in todays money
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07:27:24 PM | chaslinux | Oh... Paradroid... loved that game on the C64.
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07:27:33 PM | _Jot_ | Pitfall is amazing, I never played the first one, but I bought Pitfall II
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07:27:42 PM | _Jot_ | River Raid!
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07:27:45 PM | _Jot_ | I love that game
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07:27:49 PM | chaslinux | Yeah River Raid
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07:27:50 PM | _Jot_ | but it's much better on MSX
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07:28:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | ahh, I forgot about the MSX
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07:28:14 PM | _Jot_ | it's nice on the C64 too
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07:28:28 PM | Dave-Maydew | Spy Hunter on the Spectrum
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07:28:31 PM | _Jot_ | but on the atari 2600 it sucks, because it doesn't have enough colours
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07:28:44 PM | chaslinux | Attack of the Mutant Camels
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07:29:26 PM | _Jot_ | River Raid on MSX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIIf_HGGGmY
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07:29:58 PM | Drumstick | I played Star Wars
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07:30:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | OMG Colecovision
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07:30:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | Smurfs on that RobbieF
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07:31:02 PM | Dave-Maydew | Manic Miner and Jet Set Willy on the Spectrum too
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07:31:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | ahh, what a game
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07:31:28 PM | _Jot_ | those are amazing too Dave-Maydew
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07:32:04 PM | _Jot_ | poor ErikaL, she must think we've all gone crazy
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07:32:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | She's only a baby lol
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07:33:11 PM | _Jot_ | okay RobbieF, you sold me, i'll buy it! I'll give you a whole cool dollar for it, how's that?
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07:33:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | I raise you 25p UK Sterling
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07:33:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | ;-)
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07:34:34 PM | _Jot_ | http://cat5.tv/yum
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07:34:40 PM | _Jot_ | best chocolate I ever had :)
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07:35:13 PM | _Jot_ | Burger time isgreat too!
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07:35:43 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, in Burger Time, you had a platform, with parts of a burge,r and you walked over them to drop them, untill you had all of them at the bottom, where together they made a buger
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07:35:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | Oh boy, I'm wanting to create my Mame Server now
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07:36:09 PM | _Jot_ | I actually remember that off the top of my head :)
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07:37:00 PM | ErikaL | burger time sounds fun
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07:37:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | Piracy RobbieF ;-)
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07:37:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahahaha
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07:37:25 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, I'll tell you more after the show :)
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07:37:43 PM | Dave-Maydew | 10 Print "Hello"
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07:37:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | 20 Goto 10
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07:37:50 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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07:37:51 PM | _Jot_ | 10 PRINT "Hello Category5!";: GOTO 10
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07:37:59 PM | _Jot_ | darn, you were faster :)
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07:38:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | ;-
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07:38:15 PM | Dave-Maydew | Sorry Jot
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07:38:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:38:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | you have to love basic
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07:38:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | I broke my teeth on BASIC ;-)
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07:39:00 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, here in Europe, in the beginning of the 80s everything started, not ending
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07:39:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | The Internet came into the world!
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07:39:43 PM | Dave-Maydew | Atari ST
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07:39:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | they made a bad decision with the Falcon
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07:40:27 PM | Dave-Maydew | The old NES
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07:40:38 PM | Dave-Maydew | I called it the Toaster
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07:40:52 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, most of the computers we're talking about, are the kind you would hook up to a TV like a wii or PS3 except they were about the size of a keyboard, although a bit higher, and the whole computer was under the keyboard, so you could actually write programs on it and do things with it as soon as you had it connected witohout putting in any games
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07:41:52 PM | _Jot_ | tetris was the end of the 80s already :)
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07:41:59 PM | _Jot_ | or 2nd half at least
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07:42:01 PM | Dave-Maydew | Tetris is the only game my Mom will play
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07:42:13 PM | chaslinux | ErikaL: Try Burger Space on Linux it's like Burger Time
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07:42:35 PM | _Jot_ | Most of the games from the 80s are coming back in the same form but on tablets and mobile devices
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07:42:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I finally got Sound!
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07:43:04 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm not a fan of 3D TV
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07:43:09 PM | _Jot_ | great Dennis_Kelley! You found the volume button :)
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07:43:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | MAME
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07:43:46 PM | ajamison5579 | the Wii lets you buy old NES games
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07:43:55 PM | ajamison5579 | and even some Sega games
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07:43:57 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, what do you mean emulators? My 27 year old Sony HB-F700P MSX works perfectly fine, and hardware and software is still being made for the MSX-system today
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07:44:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | I've seen a PSX emulator on Android
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07:44:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ _ Tahks!
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07:44:31 PM | JaePea1969 | i had a vic20, c64, c128, amiga 500, a2000, and ran a bbs
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07:44:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *Thanks
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07:45:02 PM | Dave-Maydew | Running a BBS??
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07:45:07 PM | chaslinux | I think they licensed the games... doubt the original authors got paid though.
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07:45:09 PM | _Jot_ | JeaPea1969, I have almost all those, not a vic20, and for the a2000 I don't have the harddisk-card or drive with it, so it isn't very useful
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07:45:14 PM | Dave-Maydew | was you on Ham Radio or Internet??
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07:45:19 PM | Drumstick | Many of the old games are now "abandonware" and essentially open season. Nobody claims them anymore
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07:46:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | I bought my Wife the Wii, she loves the Dance games
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07:46:28 PM | ErikaL | aweosme thanks !
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07:46:52 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief you can even download old games via the Wii Store
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07:47:14 PM | revdjenk | wow! she IS young!
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07:47:26 PM | _Jot_ | BBS means Bulletin Board System, it was using modems, and through telephone-lines
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07:47:28 PM | JaePea1969 | bbs = bullitin board system.............pre-internet
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07:47:35 PM | _Jot_ | It was the internet before internet, for home users
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07:47:40 PM | revdjenk | hee hee RobbieF
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07:47:50 PM | Drumstick | My favorite Gamecube game was Ghost Recon
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07:47:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ahh, I ran one on Ham Radio RF VHF/UHF
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07:47:59 PM | _Jot_ | of course in the 80s the universities and such got internet, but it wasn't for normal people
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07:48:06 PM | chaslinux | Had a friend Mike who ran the BUG BBS in Barrie from 83 to about 85
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07:48:46 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF< it's only a preventive measure, so it can be cancelled
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07:49:02 PM | chaslinux | That was an awesome BBS... something like 15 floppy drives all daisy chained together
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07:49:17 PM | ArteVision | Hi there from Mexico City
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07:49:18 PM | _Jot_ | wow, that's a lot, must have been very expensive
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07:49:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | Those were the days
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07:49:27 PM | _Jot_ | hi ArteVision
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07:50:01 PM | chaslinux | I always wondered where he got all the equipment... he lived like a Pauper... I think at one point he was a teacher.
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07:50:07 PM | ArteVision | Hi I'm located down in Mexico City and I like your show
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07:50:09 PM | _Jot_ | Hmmm I thought you shouldn't put sugar in a tank, I guess I was wrong?
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07:50:53 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, new viewer -> ArteVision from Mexico City
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07:51:40 PM | _Jot_ | chaslinux, maybe it was a bit underground, after all, having that many drives isn't just for messages
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07:51:41 PM | Drumstick | Welcome ArteVision!
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07:51:45 PM | JaePea1969 | i had a 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 14.4, and 56k baud modems
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07:51:57 PM | ArteVision | Thanks guys
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07:52:20 PM | _Jot_ | JaePea1969, my first one was a 1200/2400 baud one, then I had a 9600, a 28k8 and after that I didn't need modems anymore :)
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07:52:30 PM | Drumstick | I have all my BBS files backed up on 5" floppies....three boxes of them!! LOL
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07:52:31 PM | chaslinux | Not BUG... lots of liability there... we had to have liability insurance. And back then we only had 300 baud modems
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07:52:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | BING = Because It's Not Google
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07:52:48 PM | chaslinux | I do know we had a big library, lots came from TPUG
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07:53:05 PM | chaslinux | Lots of Jim Butterworth software
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07:53:07 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, lots of shareware and public domain back then already too
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07:53:22 PM | chaslinux | Butterfield sorry
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07:53:25 PM | JaePea1969 | my first hd was a 40 meg
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07:53:28 PM | Drumstick | Ah yes! PC-File....best program EVER for its time
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07:53:32 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, what is my new car doing there?
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07:53:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | I had a lot of PD and Shareware on the Atari ST and Amiga
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07:53:39 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | I use duckduckgo.com for my searches. No tracking
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07:53:43 PM | sidney_ | Duckduckgo
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07:54:02 PM | ajamison5579 | That is my prototype Doomsday Machine
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07:54:14 PM | sidney_ | Also startpage
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07:54:16 PM | ajamison5579 | just need to arm it with some tactical lazers and some missiles
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07:54:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | Only a UK person would build something so cool
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07:54:22 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:54:24 PM | Drumstick | Anybody want any old software...I have copies....many many titles... :)
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07:54:33 PM | _Jot_ | JaePea1969, here my first 10MB one was on an olivetti M24 PC, later we had a Philips NMS9100 series PC with a 20MB HD
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07:54:38 PM | Drumstick | I collected shareware
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07:55:05 PM | _Jot_ | Drumstick, that's why I have unraid, so I can keep everything I collected, because you never want to lose that
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07:55:08 PM | Drumstick | Only reason I kept a 5" drive....just to read those floppies
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07:55:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | g+
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07:56:01 PM | _Jot_ | It's why I bought that new cartridge, i thas micro SD slots, so I don't need floppies anymore, after all, they don['t last forever
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07:56:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:56:04 PM | ajamison5579 | That spider thing can dance? You ought to make it kick box as well then you can at least use it for a practcal reason like kicking the west burea baptist church terroists
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07:56:11 PM | onewanman | I still use my Windows 3.1.1 PC
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07:56:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | Yup
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07:56:30 PM | JaePea1969 | seeing going from meg to gig to tara
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07:56:35 PM | Drumstick | Wait til you see the swatter!!
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07:56:37 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, wait, we are supposed to watch the show? I hope we won't get exams and get rated on it
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07:56:45 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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07:56:57 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: shhhhhh
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07:57:12 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: don't remind him
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07:57:29 PM | chaslinux | Like a scene from Police Academy...
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07:57:30 PM | ajamison5579 | If nothing else it would scare the crap out of the opposing force in a conflict
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07:57:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | and a top speed of 5mph
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07:57:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | Run for the hills kids
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07:57:55 PM | _Jot_ | When I was young, I used to read a magazine, and I found out the makers of it put all magazines online last year, so finally I have them all and can read them
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07:58:10 PM | revdjenk | It doesn't move THAT fast
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07:58:40 PM | Dave-Maydew | Glad she wasn't my teacher
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07:58:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:58:45 PM | _Jot_ | ErikaL, you teach with horror? You mean you carry around pictures of RobbieF and show them to people to scare them?
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07:58:57 PM | revdjenk | KidFinderRobot Patent Pending
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07:59:05 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'd be scared for life
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07:59:18 PM | _Jot_ | welcome back ArteVision :)
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07:59:23 PM | revdjenk | tackles!!!
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07:59:24 PM | chaslinux | Maybe if they do another RoboCop he can sell the spider for big bucks.
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07:59:38 PM | ArteVision | thanks
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07:59:52 PM | Drumstick | Thanks all!!!
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07:59:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | Great show RobbieF and ErikaL
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08:00:03 PM | Drumstick | ...and for the memories
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08:00:08 PM | ErikaL | no problem :)
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08:00:23 PM | chaslinux | That was quick... ciao all
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08:00:36 PM | Drumstick | Bye all...
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08:00:39 PM | ajamison5579 | It dances it walks, It scares the pants off kids, ITs the amazing Spider Robot of Death!
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08:00:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | She probably scared the Bus Driver
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08:00:42 PM | revdjenk | ErikaL: hey kid, get off my lawn!
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08:00:53 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:00:59 PM | ArteVision | see ya around guys
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08:01:02 PM | revdjenk | I'll send my KidFinderRobot
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08:01:11 PM | ErikaL | Yeah Rev.jenk great idesa
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08:01:15 PM | revdjenk | hee hee
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08:01:15 PM | _Jot_ | I'll send ErikaL!
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08:01:32 PM | EightMilesFromTJ | Bye
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08:01:36 PM | revdjenk | RobbieF: I couldn't get into the hangout, this week
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08:01:46 PM | RobbieF | Hangout was closed, sorry revdjenk.
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08:01:53 PM | ajamison5579 | "Bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do, what you gonna do when KindfinderRobot comes for you!"
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08:01:54 PM | revdjenk | ah, that explains that!
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08:01:58 PM | _Jot_ | revdjenk, that is correct, there were technical issues because of the hangout
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08:02:08 PM | revdjenk | like last week!?
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08:02:14 PM | onewanman | thanks everyone
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08:02:32 PM | revdjenk | ajamison5579: hee hee
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08:02:35 PM | ArteVision | I had some trouble trying to get in the chatroom on your website
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08:02:50 PM | revdjenk | or KinderFindRobot
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08:03:21 PM | RobbieF | Thanks all! Hope you had fun.
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08:03:24 PM | ajamison5579 | Give it some freak pre-recorded message on a loop to make it more scarey
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08:03:24 PM | _Jot_ | ArteVision, the chatroom does get busy, so it doesn't always work well, but you can try a regular IRC client and join #Category5 on freenode
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08:03:55 PM | ArteVision | got it thnks
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08:03:56 PM | JaePea1969 | bye guys
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08:04:02 PM | revdjenk | ArteVision: agree with _Jot_ XChat is great app for that
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08:04:17 PM | revdjenk | bye JaePea1969
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08:04:18 PM | ArteVision | Ok
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08:04:24 PM | ArteVision | thanks
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08:04:34 PM | revdjenk | ArteVision: what OS are you running?
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08:04:52 PM | ArteVision | Windows XP
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08:05:15 PM | revdjenk | then mIRC or X-Chat for you
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08:05:31 PM | revdjenk | ArteVision: when are we going to get you on Linux?
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08:05:48 PM | ArteVision | Ok. I'll try to follow your shows, promise
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08:06:10 PM | ArteVision | I'm not familiar with Linux
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08:06:16 PM | _Jot_ | Category5 is a community, not just a show :)
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08:06:27 PM | _Jot_ | it means everybody is a part of Category5 who watches too :)
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08:06:29 PM | ArteVision | I know
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08:06:37 PM | revdjenk | yay! Not to influence you, but I have run LinuxMint for the past 5 years and love it. It is great for beginners, especially
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08:06:37 PM | sidney_ | next year XP goes bellyup
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08:06:51 PM | ArteVision | thnks for making me feel part of it
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08:07:13 PM | ArteVision | Yea tha's rithgt
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08:07:14 PM | _Jot_ | you're welcome :)
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08:07:31 PM | revdjenk | ArteVision: linuxmint.com and download the version that best fits your hardware, either 32 or 64 bit
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08:07:44 PM | revdjenk | glad you are here, ArteVision
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08:07:53 PM | _Jot_ | Unfortunatly you still need XP or really Windows 7 for some games, but for most other things, Linux has a lot of alternatives, so learning about it can't be bad
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08:07:57 PM | ArteVision | Thnks
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08:10:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | Just come back to say Goodnight everyone
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08:10:40 PM | Dave-Maydew | I shall be back next week
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08:10:49 PM | _Jot_ | good night everyone Dave-Maydew :)
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08:11:01 PM | revdjenk | bye Dave-Maydew
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08:11:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | Good Night _Jot_
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08:11:19 PM | Dave-Maydew | and I'm on Twitter everyday if anyone wants to follow
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08:11:40 PM | Dave-Maydew | and I'm planning to start a blog on beginners into Linux and Android
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08:11:41 PM | revdjenk | Dave-Maydew: do you use G+?
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08:11:50 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm on G+ too
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08:11:54 PM | revdjenk | great!
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08:12:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | must start using it more as I live on my Tablet PC lol
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08:12:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | I use a cheap but nice Arnova 7G3
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08:12:48 PM | _Jot_ | you must have really close neighbours Dave-Maydew, those tablets aren't big
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08:12:50 PM | Dave-Maydew | hacked to see the 32Gb SDCard as Internal storage
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08:13:04 PM | revdjenk | have a lenovo 9" android
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08:13:42 PM | Dave-Maydew | I like the Arnova 7G3, and I shall be having the Samsung Nexus phone soon too
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08:14:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | I want to try Ubuntu Touch lol
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08:15:50 PM | _Jot_ | doesn't it look like the regular Ubuntu, Dave-Maydew?
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08:17:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | almost
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08:17:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | sorry for the delay, just chatting to the wife
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08:17:45 PM | _Jot_ | they are important, wifes :)
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08:17:45 PM | Dave-Maydew | she's off to bed, and I'll be going shortly
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08:17:52 PM | revdjenk | there is only one dave maydew on G+, it must be you?
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08:17:59 PM | Dave-Maydew | She thinks she's the boss
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08:18:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | ;-)
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08:18:26 PM | Dave-Maydew | if it's a man with glasses and a goattee
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08:18:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | thats me
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08:18:48 PM | _Jot_ | glasses and hair? Sounds like somebody who has something to hide
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08:18:50 PM | revdjenk | Dave-Maydew: actually it doesn't have a pic... hm
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08:18:58 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: hee hee
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08:19:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | ah, look for David Maydew
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08:19:12 PM | Dave-Maydew | sorry
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08:19:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | my gmail is dave.maydew@gmail.com
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08:19:36 PM | revdjenk | ah yes, DAVID!
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08:20:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | :-)
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08:20:42 PM | RobbieF | Hey folks
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08:20:50 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF
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08:20:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | I used to use FB a lot till I got my first smartphone, and now live on Twitter and starting to use G+
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08:21:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey RobbieF
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08:21:26 PM | _Jot_ | nice game, I got 5820 points, but it only works on IE, and not firefox, and firefox won't let me login anymore. It could be my PC, windows, you know
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08:21:32 PM | revdjenk | hey RobbieF
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08:21:53 PM | RobbieF | You guys have fun tonight?
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08:21:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | Since hacking my 4Gb Arnova 7G3 to 32Gb. I've installed Firefox on it
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08:22:02 PM | Dave-Maydew | Lots of FUN
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08:22:10 PM | RobbieF | Glad to hear it :)
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08:22:13 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, not enough! We have to do this again next week
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08:22:16 PM | Dave-Maydew | bought the memories flooding back
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08:22:23 PM | RobbieF | Deal _Jot_
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08:22:28 PM | RobbieF | that was the hope
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08:22:31 PM | _Jot_ | You haven't even mentioned Konami and so on\
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08:22:36 PM | RobbieF | ha
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08:22:36 PM | Dave-Maydew | as soon as you've uploaded the latest episode I'll let my Dad know
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08:22:45 PM | RobbieF | no, I couldn't mention everything... it's just a bit of a throwback
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08:22:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | as he's got Podkicker on his Tablet
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08:22:53 PM | RobbieF | nice
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08:23:02 PM | _Jot_ | did I mention MSX yet? I mean, really, 25-30 year old computers that still have new hardware and software being made is amazing
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08:23:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | and I'll get him to watch, especially with the old games
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08:23:24 PM | RobbieF | Just takes us right back, doesn't it?
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08:23:38 PM | _Jot_ | back? I'm in the middle of it still
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08:23:47 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm 38, I was bought up on the old home computers back in 80/81
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08:24:14 PM | RobbieF | Vic20 for me
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08:24:24 PM | _Jot_ | Just today I was sorting through my C64 collection of software, looking for double disks that I didn't need cause I had them already
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08:24:24 PM | GWG | C64
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08:24:32 PM | GWG | I didn't get a Vic20 till later.
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08:24:34 PM | Dave-Maydew | if it wasn't for my Dad who kept buying me a computer each christmas, I wouldn't be into them as I am now
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08:24:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | Debby, my wife, always blames him lol
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08:25:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF, you can't be much older/younger than me
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08:25:23 PM | _Jot_ | I think everybody who has to or wants to use computers should first use computers like the C64, MSX and spectrums to discover how much fun they are
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08:25:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | that's true _Jot_
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08:25:57 PM | _Jot_ | not things like the atari 2600 and coleco, because they don't have keyboards so no programming and such, which is half the fun
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08:26:43 PM | revdjenk | Dave-Maydew: a new one every year? wow! nice
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08:26:53 PM | revdjenk | Dave-Maydew: which was your favorite
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08:27:31 PM | _Jot_ | At the time I had no idea what they cost, but I do wonder how my parents could afford the computers, I know later one of them was sponsored by the government and companies because of the PC at home projects
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08:28:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | Mmmm, I was a Sinclair man
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08:28:49 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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08:29:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | but I did like the Dragon32 & 64
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08:29:34 PM | _Jot_ | I started with the Sinclairs too, I have a few Spectrum 48Ks and 128Ks here, some working, some not, but with internet, free access to service manuals so I can actually fix them I'm sure
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08:29:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | wow!!
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08:30:14 PM | Dave-Maydew | I still have a Spectrum 128k around my parents that still works
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08:30:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | and a BBC Micro with the 5.25" Floppy Drives
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08:31:07 PM | _Jot_ | I have two 48ks and two 128ks, one of each works, and also a Dragon (I think) keyboard that you bought and put the spectrum-mainboard in, which has a spectrum 48k in it too
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08:32:23 PM | revdjenk | I had the color computer which I believe, was similar to the Dragons
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08:32:55 PM | _Jot_ | no, it's a lo-profile keyboard
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08:33:05 PM | revdjenk | I soldered 32K into my 32K to get my first 64K machine later had it up to 256
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08:34:04 PM | _Jot_ | or lo>>profile, I should say, it cost 49,95 pounds plus 2,50 postage+package fee, according to the ad that is inside
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08:34:13 PM | revdjenk | now a lenovo with linuxmint guy and lenovo tab with android!
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08:35:03 PM | _Jot_ | that's great revdjenk, same with my MSX, it has 128KB ram plus 128KB videoram, and I have a 512KB memory mapper with it, but that isn't completely okay anymore, that new module has 64Mbit so 8MB memory with it, but that's mostly for storing stuff, not RAM
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08:35:43 PM | _Jot_ | I have a VG-8020 somewhere too, it only has 64KB, which was already much compared to some other models, they came with 16KB and up
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08:37:21 PM | _Jot_ | oh, there's some cassettes with my spectrum in thebox, an educational title, making words, OmniCalc 2, and Psion Chess
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08:37:58 PM | revdjenk | I moved too often to keep my coco with me! :(
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08:38:29 PM | Dave_Maydew_Droi | That's better
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08:38:40 PM | Dave_Maydew_Droi | I'm mobile now :-)
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08:38:44 PM | _Jot_ | For many things, the real thing is great, but these days most emulators are so good, that they are like the real thing
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08:39:06 PM | _Jot_ | Dave_Maydew_Droi, your name is growing, like a snake! Remember that game?
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08:39:12 PM | _Jot_ | don't eat your tail!
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08:39:21 PM | Dave_Maydew_Droi | Haha yeah :-)
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08:40:19 PM | Dave_Maydew_Droi | My name should change again
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08:40:25 PM | _Jot_ | Seriously RobbieF, you should get all the emulators and software, and teach your kids (and ErikaL who's pretty much a kid too and the rest) to use systems like these
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08:41:28 PM | _Jot_ | I mean, learning skills, hand-eye-coordination, critical thinking, problem-solving and so on
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08:41:29 PM | Dave_Maydew | That's better :-)
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08:41:45 PM | _Jot_ | and one life less, since you started over :)
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08:41:48 PM | Dave_Maydew | Didn't like Droid at the end :-)
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08:42:02 PM | _Jot_ | it showed up as Droi :)
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08:42:21 PM | Dave_Maydew | So many games to choose from :-)
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08:42:52 PM | revdjenk | They are showing the new HTC One on AllAboutAndroid
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08:43:13 PM | _Jot_ | back then I only had about a hundred that I had bought too, now I have almost everything that existed
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08:43:15 PM | Dave_Maydew | My favorite Arcade game was Outrun
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08:43:44 PM | Dave_Maydew | And Gauntlet
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08:43:46 PM | _Jot_ | Outrun is great, but I think it was better in the arcades than on the home-computers, the feeling was a little bit different
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08:43:58 PM | _Jot_ | Gauntlet is really good everywhere :)
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08:44:02 PM | Dave_Maydew | I agree
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08:44:27 PM | RobbieF | Oh yeah!
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08:44:51 PM | Dave_Maydew | You too RobbieF?
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08:44:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | :-)
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08:45:05 PM | Dave_Maydew | Classic
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08:45:17 PM | RobbieF | I mentioned playing the Intellivision at my uncle's house; Gauntlet was one of the greats.
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08:45:51 PM | Dave_Maydew | You're as old as myself then
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08:45:59 PM | RobbieF | oh wait
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08:46:02 PM | RobbieF | no it was on the 2600!
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08:46:03 PM | Dave_Maydew | Around 38
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08:46:04 PM | RobbieF | wasn't it?
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08:46:10 PM | RobbieF | I played it like CRAZY
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08:46:12 PM | Dave_Maydew | Erm yeah
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08:46:14 PM | RobbieF | or was it NES?
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08:46:19 PM | RobbieF | gosh I can't recall which system
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08:46:21 PM | RobbieF | I think it was NES
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08:46:28 PM | RobbieF | graphics were "too good" to be 2600
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08:46:32 PM | Dave_Maydew | It was across all the Systems
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08:46:46 PM | RobbieF | but it was an atari made game, which is ironic considering what we talked about tonight :)
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08:48:02 PM | Dave_Maydew | The industry needed a good shake up back then
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08:48:08 PM | RobbieF | and it got one
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08:49:18 PM | Dave_Maydew | And it's going full circle again now, especially with the fall IBC PC sales thanks mainly to Windows 8 and people wanting Tablet devices
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08:49:36 PM | Dave_Maydew | Oops predictive text
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08:50:15 PM | RobbieF | yep
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08:50:21 PM | revdjenk | you gamers... although I played some simple games with my CoCo, I was using it in typing papers and researching... using mosaic through OS9
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08:50:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | Does anyone know of a good IRC app for Android?
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08:51:05 PM | GWG | Dave_Maydew: Free or paid?
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08:51:19 PM | revdjenk | andirc? I installed by haven't used it yet
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08:51:21 PM | GWG | Free try YAAIC
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08:51:21 PM | Dave_Maydew | Either
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08:51:37 PM | revdjenk | androirc
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08:51:44 PM | GWG | Paid I like AndroidIRC
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08:51:55 PM | GWG | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.countercultured.irc
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08:52:05 PM | Dave_Maydew | That's the one I'm using now revdjenk
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08:52:10 PM | GWG | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.yaaic
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08:52:12 PM | revdjenk | ok
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08:52:42 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'll take a look at that one GWG
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08:53:34 PM | Dave_Maydew | I've even found a Sinclair Spectrum emulation app on Droid :-)
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08:54:01 PM | _Jot_ | hopefully it has a good keyboard :)
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08:54:05 PM | GWG | Dave_Maydew: Want a recommendation on a good Android podcast with IRC chat room?
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08:54:06 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'll have Manic Miner lol!
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08:54:25 PM | GWG | I know one that does a live show
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08:54:33 PM | Dave_Maydew | Go on
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08:54:35 PM | _Jot_ | World of Spectrum, Dave_Maydew
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08:55:02 PM | Dave_Maydew | _Jot_ :-)
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08:56:01 PM | Dave_Maydew | I use Podkicker for my Podcast collection on Android, and it works well
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08:56:29 PM | GWG | Dave_Maydew: Try www.androidbuffet.com. I know the hosts, they are good guys
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08:56:33 PM | GWG | Right, _Jot_?
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08:56:40 PM | _Jot_ | definatly, GWG, they are very nice
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08:56:43 PM | _Jot_ | easy to talk with too
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08:56:55 PM | GWG | _Jot_: Did you catch last night's show, with live music?
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08:56:57 PM | Dave_Maydew | I forgot about that one
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08:57:24 PM | revdjenk | allaboutandroid? GWG ?
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08:57:37 PM | _Jot_ | GWG, no, I've been busy with cataloging and such of all my software
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08:57:49 PM | GWG | revdjenk: While I like Gina Trapani, wasn't talking about it
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08:57:50 PM | Dave_Maydew | I listen to Going Linux and Linux For The Rest Of Us too
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08:57:56 PM | GWG | _Jot_: Cataloguing?
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08:58:09 PM | GWG | Dave_Maydew: That's Door's show, right?
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08:58:11 PM | revdjenk | GWG: just listing another android show
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08:58:18 PM | _Jot_ | GWG, all my MSX, Spectrum, C64 and AMiga software :)
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08:58:18 PM | Dave_Maydew | Yeah
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08:58:27 PM | GWG | revdjenk: I know it
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08:58:31 PM | Dave_Maydew | Another great guy
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08:59:13 PM | Dave_Maydew | I've chatted with door a few times, like I do with RobbieF
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09:00:15 PM | Dave_Maydew | I've learnt lots in the 4yrs of switching to Linux thanks mainly to them :-)
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09:01:07 PM | Dave_Maydew | And also Scorpio55 who I've known for almost 15yrs
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09:01:09 PM | _Jot_ | learning is good :)
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09:01:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | Even with my sight impairment I still enjoy my PC :-)
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09:01:59 PM | GWG | Dave_Maydew: I sort of met Door
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09:02:16 PM | Dave_Maydew | Nice one
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09:02:38 PM | _Jot_ | I sometimes meet door too, but only when I bump into one or open it :)
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09:02:50 PM | Dave_Maydew | Haha
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09:03:05 PM | Dave_Maydew | I fell for that :-)
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09:03:21 PM | revdjenk | Watching along with all you, I am wondering if our using OS's other than windows and apple gave us more openness to be running something other than those, today
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09:03:30 PM | _Jot_ | it's a different kind of door of course, but if somebody is called Door, well :)
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09:03:38 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: hee hee
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09:04:20 PM | _Jot_ | definatly revdjenk, because computers were much more inviting, when you turned them on, they were usable, and you could command them do do stuff
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09:04:34 PM | _Jot_ | Not just click things that others made, but you could actually tell it what to do, you were in control
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09:04:44 PM | revdjenk | exactly!
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09:05:03 PM | revdjenk | I like fiddling...
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09:05:17 PM | _Jot_ | and also, you had to do things in certain ways, sometimes even doing something right at the wrong time would be wrong, so you really had to learn too, but it was fun and understandable
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09:05:26 PM | Dave_Maydew | That's true revdjenk, if we didn't have choice, Billy Bob Gates would have taken over the world long ago
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09:07:08 PM | revdjenk | I actully used win 1.03 (still have the 5 1/4 5 disk/manual set) and geos ensemble was waaaaay ahead of it
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09:07:13 PM | _Jot_ | The thing that I also notice is that if you get those old computers, and put kids in front of them, they will actually still go at it the same way we did, and enjoy it just as much too, even if the graphics and sound aren't as 'good' asnow
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09:07:44 PM | _Jot_ | geos actually became free software, together with cp/m, source available and everything, unfortunatly through time much is lost
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09:07:46 PM | Dave_Maydew | I know I keep moaning about Windows, but they opened the flood gates (Oops pun not intended!) To other Systems
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09:08:19 PM | _Jot_ | Microsoft commercialized everything, they never made anything themselfs
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09:08:29 PM | Dave_Maydew | Correct
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09:08:37 PM | revdjenk | Vista brought me to Linux, although I had been using a Sharp Zaurus pda for a few years before that
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09:08:46 PM | Dave_Maydew | Same here
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09:08:53 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: yes!
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09:09:24 PM | _Jot_ | I've been interested in linux since the early 90s, slackware 0.something, still have some cds and such of that time with those distributions
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09:09:26 PM | Dave_Maydew | I used XP till I was bought a Vista Netbook
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09:10:01 PM | Dave_Maydew | That was 2009
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09:10:25 PM | Dave_Maydew | Now I'm just running Linux and Android
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09:10:29 PM | _Jot_ | I've seen vista on people's pc, so I skipped that, went to windows 7 when that was available
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09:10:44 PM | _Jot_ | probably will install windows 8.1 when that is out, to see if it is improved as much as they say
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09:11:23 PM | Dave_Maydew | I've tried 8, that lasted all of 10 minutes
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09:11:23 PM | revdjenk | What really helped me is that I noticed that I was already running GMP firefox audacity openoffice (star office before that) and decided that I wanted the OS that these were designed for.
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09:12:16 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: the newest rumors is that MS is actually putting a "start" button back in... start menu is a ?
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09:12:45 PM | Dave_Maydew | My mainly hobby is Amateur Radio, and seeing other operators using the OS got me interested
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09:12:49 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, revdjenk, that's why I want to see what they did :) and I'll get it as part of technet, so it won't cost anything
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09:13:11 PM | _Jot_ | Being able to communicate in different ways is very useful, Dave_Maydew
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09:13:23 PM | Dave_Maydew | Correct
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09:14:01 PM | Dave_Maydew | I have my radio's connected to my Linux box now
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09:14:15 PM | Dave_Maydew | It's fun
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09:14:34 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: doesn't hurt to check it out. I was "un"sold watching a computer repair store owner playing with it, having everything (then) full screen, and programs in the background stopped functioning... like downloads in IE which would stop once moving away to another app.
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09:14:57 PM | Dave_Maydew | Anyway, I must go to bed, off to the inlaws in the morning
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09:15:16 PM | RobbieF | night Dave
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09:15:18 PM | revdjenk | I'm a two screen (tab/laptop) worker, now... each have its strengths!
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09:15:18 PM | _Jot_ | good luck with the interview Dave_Maydew and sleep well :)
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09:15:19 PM | RobbieF | nice to see you
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09:15:28 PM | revdjenk | g'nite Dave_Maydew
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09:15:39 PM | Dave_Maydew | Interview?
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09:15:48 PM | _Jot_ | revdjenk, that tree and door you ran in too totally jumped in your path, I saw it!
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09:16:05 PM | _Jot_ | oh, inlaws, same thing, horrible events :)
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09:16:10 PM | _Jot_ | sorry, didn't read it properly :)
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09:16:16 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: oh jot!
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09:16:22 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'm seeing the inlaws lol!
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09:16:42 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: your autoread needs tweaking
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09:16:56 PM | Dave_Maydew | Goodnight from the Black Country part of the UK
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09:17:34 PM | Dave_Maydew | Where we all talk funny ;-)
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09:17:40 PM | _Jot_ | I think I need different glasses :)
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09:17:51 PM | revdjenk | Dave_Maydew: I'll tell you about my birmingham friends someday
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09:17:54 PM | Dave_Maydew | Binoculars lol
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09:18:02 PM | Dave_Maydew | Goodnight
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09:18:52 PM | revdjenk | well, I need to complete a homily for a funeral in the morning...night gents!
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09:19:19 PM | Dave_Maydew | I'll be around more often now I've got IRC on the Tablet
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09:19:26 PM | Dave_Maydew | Goodnight revdjenk
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09:19:34 PM | _Jot_ | always nice to see you Dave_Maydew! Sleep well
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09:19:35 PM | Dave_Maydew | Chat soon
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09:19:52 PM | Dave_Maydew | Headache Free still too
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09:19:58 PM | Dave_Maydew | :-)
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09:20:11 PM | Dave_Maydew | Night all
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