Chat Logs for Episode 299 — #Category5 on /


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With 73 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 59 Posts:agamotto
With 57 Posts:ajamison5579
With 57 Posts:Dave-Maydew

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06:58:25 PMDave-Maydew Things are good, just looking after my Dog after his little operation
06:58:37 PM_Jot_ poor puppy
06:58:43 PMagamotto What was done?
06:58:55 PMDave-Maydew He's been castrated
06:58:56 PMrevdjenk Dave-Maydew: does he bark in a higher register, now?
06:59:10 PMagamotto Ahhh
06:59:11 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
06:59:22 PMDave-Maydew nice one revdjenk
06:59:24 PMrevdjenk pyrosrock_eee: hey!
06:59:28 PMRobbieF Yes; for now Garbee. We're working out contracts with our ISP to increase the bandwidth to our studio.
06:59:48 PMJaePea1969 hi all
06:59:53 PMagamotto If things go goofy on my end tonight folks, it is because I am getting used to a new wireless keyboard. My previous one died after 6 years of good service.
07:00:04 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I'll watch with my hands in front of my eyes today, that way I won't see as much and use up all your bandwidth
07:00:09 PM_Jot_ hi JaePea1969
07:00:18 PMajamison5579 Robbief what you need is Chuck Norris to talk to your ISP on your behalf
07:00:31 PMrevdjenk agamotto: oh, fine, blame the keyboard for your goofiness... how ever will we tell? :)
07:00:59 PM_Jot_ no introscreen on youtube again, but radio is playing so it should end up okay
07:01:05 PM_Jot_ ah, there it is :)
07:01:10 PMrevdjenk yay...
07:01:21 PMDave-Maydew Wow, did I go back in time??
07:01:37 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF said 11th June
07:01:38 PMagamotto Some of the keys aren't where I expect them to be... the right shift is rather small, with the spacing not quite 'full,' so I am occasionally mashing two keys at a time.
07:01:54 PMagamotto WTF? To what end?
07:02:00 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, that is the date in Canada, why, what's wrong about that?
07:02:04 PMDave-Maydew oh no, it's 00:00 here June 12th :-
07:02:11 PMpyrosrock_eee yeah its a topgear build
07:02:35 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, it's 1am here on that day, so yeah, it can be confusing if you're not used to it :)
07:02:48 PMGWG I just flew in from London and I didn't miss the show. Weee...
07:02:54 PMagamotto Oh, that would explain some of it then... shame the Beeb won't let those of us in America watch via iPlayer
07:02:55 PM_Jot_ great job GWG
07:03:14 PMrevdjenk GWG: what dedication!
07:03:32 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF went back in time too
07:03:36 PMagamotto GWG, No delays in the tunnels?
07:03:47 PMDennis_Kelley is BSP working
07:03:50 PMpyrosrock_eee every time i see this add im likem why not use rechargeable bats?
07:03:51 PMrevdjenk last tuesday I had a 39.7C temp! (103.4F)
07:03:56 PM_Jot_ yes Dennis_Kelley, it is working
07:04:05 PMajamison5579 there is no BSP for the time being
07:04:13 PMajamison5579 Ustream does not work well with youtube
07:04:14 PMagamotto revdjenk, Get your quarterly tax bill?
07:04:27 PMajamison5579 nvm
07:04:31 PMajamison5579 i stand corrected
07:04:31 PMrevdjenk no, just had a 24hour bug of some sort!
07:04:31 PM_Jot_ the BSP is definatly working, I'm watching at it right now :)
07:04:55 PMrevdjenk hey RobbieF and ErikaL
07:05:00 PM_Jot_ I think it doesn't work well if you have many videostreams, but since right now it is only youtube, it is working in a way
07:05:08 PMRobbieF Hey Revdjenk
07:05:09 PMpyrosrock_eee gosh
07:05:13 PMajamison5579 Chuck Norris Approves this IRC channel he told me so himself
07:05:19 PMG_Dog1985_ same here
07:05:32 PM_Jot_ but ErikaL, what if you're on a bus somewhere that is an hour away? I'm all confused now
07:05:40 PMG_Dog1985_ lol ajamison5579
07:05:49 PMagamotto I had a busy weekend. I went to Aledo for the Rhubarb Fest, and then drove up to Rockford for a friend's 50th birthday.
07:05:54 PMDave-Maydew As long as she wasn't using Apple IOS Maps RobbieF
07:05:57 PMGWG agamotto: Tunnels?
07:06:01 PMrevdjenk hee hee
07:06:15 PMPAULr2 hahaaha
07:06:25 PMagamotto GWG, Wasn't sure if you had to navigate around the Hudson or not
07:06:32 PMGarbee RobbieF, Cool!
07:06:37 PMGWG agamotto: I live on the same island as the airport
07:06:45 PMGoodGuy What happened to Ustream?
07:06:54 PMGarbee GoodGuy, All YouTube Live now.
07:06:57 PMajamison5579 Ustream is outdated
07:07:03 PMajamison5579 and youtube is retarded
07:07:08 PMGoodGuy Youtube looks washed out
07:07:10 PMajamison5579 with regard to livestreams
07:07:11 PMGarbee He can get higher quality by providing just a Youtube streme.
07:07:26 PMGarbee Yea, it is 360p, they are working on getting more bandwidth via the ISP.
07:07:34 PMajamison5579 Garbee is 480p your definition of higher quality
07:07:42 PMGarbee ajamison5579, 720p...
07:07:55 PMDave-Maydew 1080p
07:08:00 PM_Jot_ 4096p
07:08:00 PMagamotto As long as it is stable, that would be the key thing
07:08:01 PMGoodGuy How do I provide just a youtube stream?
07:08:11 PMajamison5579 Youtube never does live streams in 720P not even for Chris Pirillo who is rather popular
07:08:12 PMDave-Maydew oooh _Jot_ Super HD
07:08:14 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, if you want to watch, go to
07:08:19 PMpyrosrock_eee 1000000000000000000000000000000p
07:08:19 PMGarbee Dave-Maydew, Nope. Cat5 will be 720p based on what upload he has.
07:08:37 PMGoodGuy Thanks _Jot_
07:08:41 PMDave-Maydew 720p is good DVD quality
07:08:41 PMGarbee ajamison5579, They can, I have seen them do it before.
07:08:57 PM_Jot_ Oops, forgot the clicky-thing,
07:09:05 PMagamotto Ahhh, so Robbie would need something like 7mbps upstream to handle the bandwidth for 720p?
07:09:17 PMGarbee Dave-Maydew, 720 is good live stream quality. I don't see many doing 1080p, and even if they could Cat5 can't provide it.
07:09:19 PMGWG Altavista? What year is this?
07:09:32 PMajamison5579 well then Garbee it must be very hard to get them to enable HD live streaming because Chris has not be able to get it working, seems he should have more luck then most
07:09:47 PM_Jot_ GWG, it's been 2002 for some time now, I think
07:09:53 PMagamotto ajamison5579, You would think
07:10:42 PMGarbee ajamison5579, 1 sec...
07:10:50 PMagamotto Yes, you wouldn't want word to get around that your website was 'loose,' or 'easy.'
07:10:56 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: does 2003 follow? or is it 0H66
07:11:06 PM_Jot_ If anybody feels the need to provide monetary resources for buying bandwith, feel free to send big bags of cash through
07:11:13 PMGarbee
07:11:22 PMGarbee ajamison5579, ^^ config for up to 1080p.
07:11:34 PMagamotto If only I had big wads of dosh to send :(
07:11:40 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, I'm not sure, I heard the world was supposed to end in 2000, or 2001, so I'm still scared of what could happen
07:11:42 PMDad_ Hello
07:11:47 PM_Jot_ hello Dad_
07:11:51 PMGarbee No idea why Pirillo can't get it working. But, it is supported.
07:12:26 PMDad_ Hey did u notice the Star Trek fig with the cat 5 cable
07:12:26 PMErikaL Hi did :P
07:12:36 PMErikaL dad *
07:12:40 PMajamison5579 Garbee I see that but that is just a document does not show actual real world issues. When you see people try to stream live in HD using the correct settings and they are not able to that says alot more to me then some document which is generalized
07:12:44 PMagamotto Could it be because he is running Win8? chuckle
07:13:28 PM_Jot_ Dad_ yes, normally it's Spock but he does have another figure, I forgot the name, unfortunatly
07:13:32 PMagamotto Dad_, ?
07:13:35 PMajamison5579 Chris Runs OSx
07:13:41 PMpyrosrock_eee what was that command again? RobbieF
07:13:41 PMGarbee ajamison5579, And Youtube can't support every config on the planet...
07:13:53 PMagamotto lynis?
07:13:55 PMGarbee They give the specs on how it should be done to get it working, that should be enough.
07:13:56 PMajamison5579 but not just him IF had issues streaming Live with frequent stream freezes as well
07:14:07 PMajamison5579 when trying to stream higher then 380P
07:14:39 PMGarbee ajamison5579, Really, I'm not going to debate youtubes inner working. I can say yes it is supported. No idea on every possible config on the planet on a client system, sorry.
07:15:11 PMajamison5579 Garbee just saying it may be "supported" but the support for HD streaming sucks
07:15:17 PMajamison5579 currently
07:15:19 PMagamotto I was dragged to the 2nd movie as part of the weekend's festivities... now I know I won't see any more of the 'new' ST movies...
07:15:19 PM_Jot_ of course there's more than just youtube if you want to broadcast in high resolutions, you need the computer, cameras and such as well, which many people won't have :)
07:16:03 PMajamison5579 I am just saying I have yet to see a HD live stream on youtube that has worked
07:16:16 PM_Jot_ I remember watching the first, can't even remember what that was about, haven't felt the need to even check for the 2nd
07:16:18 PMajamison5579 without issues with freezing and having to reload the stream
07:16:45 PMagamotto _Jot_, Wait until it hits your telly, and watch it impaired... should improve things
07:17:18 PMGarbee ajamison5579, I have seen plenty of HD streams. Namely the ones from Google Developers Live. They use the same endpoints that regular users do.
07:17:32 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, I do remember that, lately it seems a bit better where I am, but I think it depends on where 'the viewer is, and the files, as in, they probably threw more resources at it
07:17:37 PMErikaL Multiple levels of security :D
07:18:13 PMErikaL Robbie has us covered
07:18:14 PMDennis_Kelley Dramatic Pause!
07:18:22 PM_Jot_ agamotto, might be a while, I don't really watch tv anymore :)
07:18:28 PMagamotto RobbieF, As ignorant as this may sound, is there something as easy as MSE to help you secure your websites/hosts?
07:18:39 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, security is always good, by the way, your password was 1234, right?
07:18:53 PMagamotto 0000
07:19:01 PMDennis_Kelley Password
07:19:26 PMpyrosrock_eee bummer RobbieF i dont know what email i used to regester my domain does that matter?
07:19:26 PMGoodGuy opensesame
07:19:40 PMajamison5579 Garbee Google having success means little but I will just agree to disagree until i see it for myself
07:19:46 PMErikaL Yeah password is a a pretty good password
07:20:30 PMDennis_Kelley i like using drowssap also1
07:20:34 PMDennis_Kelley *!
07:20:41 PMGoodGuy Metasploit
07:20:53 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, a 2 by 4 to the knees always works great in revealing passwords, so I'd say your website is still exploitable, not saying I condone violence in any way though
07:21:02 PMagamotto hahahaah
07:21:22 PMagamotto Announcing the Gambino family codebreaker!
07:21:49 PM_Jot_ Okay, I just changed my password to password, please don't go and log in on the category5 website as me, people
07:21:56 PMErikaL i agree with Jot
07:22:01 PMGuest_hArry @RobbieF I get the infamous 404!!
07:22:22 PM_Jot_ Guest_hArry, where are you getting the 404 for, what are you trying to reach?
07:22:42 PMGuest_hArry
07:22:55 PM_Jot_ Guest_hArry,
07:22:59 PMagamotto Ok, call me a dunce, but what is 'reputation' monitoring?
07:23:17 PMGuest_hArry other websites reputation
07:23:42 PMagamotto In what sense? Certificates, legal, moral?
07:23:43 PMajamison5579 agamotto it makes sure that someone does not intiate scams posing as your company
07:23:52 PM_Jot_ agamotto, if you link to good sites, your website is more likely to get a good rating, if it links to malware etc, it will get a bad rating, tec
07:24:01 PMajamison5579 and thus hurting your standing with customers ect
07:24:06 PMagamotto So, kind of an identity theft monitor?
07:24:14 PMGuest_hArry yep
07:24:21 PMajamison5579 sort of except for buisness rep
07:24:21 PMagamotto ahh
07:24:23 PMGuest_hArry but for your website
07:24:45 PMGarbee RobbieF, Backup reminder...
07:24:49 PMGuest_hArry thanks Jot
07:25:14 PMagamotto I am so glad I don't have to deal with this stuff
07:25:16 PM_Jot_ no problem Guest_hArry, just remember, for the links, for the big stuff (the name is bigger too)
07:25:34 PMGuest_hArry yeah i tend to forget that
07:25:40 PMajamison5579 Oh do not refer to all hackers as bad or Stallman will get mad he got annoyed in an interview when the interviewer refered to negative attacks as a Hacker attack
07:26:18 PMDave-Maydew This is why it's best to keep things updated
07:26:32 PMGuest_hArry and an eye on things too
07:26:35 PMagamotto Well it would be nice if people would use 'white hat' and 'black hat,' if they aren't going to use cracker to differentiate.
07:26:45 PM_Jot_ But I don't want robots to read my thoughts! They took so much time to think of!
07:26:54 PMajamison5579 I sadly have been one of those people to setup a CMS and then do nothing with it but luckily no one ever visited my sites before i took them down
07:27:44 PMagamotto Hmmm, what was that movie with the thought-controlled plane... Firefox?
07:27:46 PMajamison5579 agamotto Stallman said that anyone who tinkers is an hacker not just with code but car guys in a sense are hackers modders are hackers and so on
07:27:50 PMDave-Maydew Did it crash for the Windows users?
07:27:54 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
07:27:58 PMajamison5579 though stallman does come across as a bit insane to me
07:28:10 PMGuest_hArry wow you remember that movie
07:28:12 PMagamotto ajamison5579, Most zealots are
07:28:43 PMagamotto I am definitely a hacker.. occasionally a cracker too, as needed.
07:28:45 PMDave-Maydew Stallman is a Fundamentalist
07:28:58 PMGoodGuy weapon tech also
07:29:07 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew, agreed. Yet it doesn't invalidate everything about him.
07:29:21 PMajamison5579 agamotto do not get me wrong that man is brilliant in some areas but he is more or less nutz in my eyes wrapping NFC devices with tin foil to prevent "spying" from the government sounds crazy to me
07:29:21 PMGuest_hArry Just use the "FORCE"
07:29:40 PMGoodGuy fighter selecting multiple targets almost instantly
07:29:47 PMDave-Maydew and I'm an Evangelist
07:29:51 PMDave-Maydew ;-)
07:29:57 PMGuest_4761 Hi there, i have a problem with the live video. In germany it sais that the video is not available. can you help me?
07:29:58 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, you do know that the US (and other countries security agencies) follow everybody in the world, at least on the internet?
07:30:29 PMagamotto ajamison5579, Given how so many NFC and RFID devices have no security at all, I am not sure if paranoid is accurate.
07:30:31 PMajamison5579 _jot_ and I do not really care i do nothing wrong so let them waste millions following me if they want they will just waste money
07:31:07 PMGoodGuy it's your money they are wasting, so they could care less :-)
07:31:09 PMajamison5579 my life is incredibly boring compared to some
07:31:09 PM_Jot_ Guest_4761, are you watching through or another link? If you are watching through that, then youtube is probably marking it wrong
07:31:10 PMGuest_hArry they know that if you use Linux then you don't "do" anything wrong
07:31:48 PMagamotto Is Sony still relevant to anyone outside of Japan anymore?
07:32:00 PMGuest_4761 yes i am watching throug
07:32:34 PMagamotto Design by Volvo?
07:32:46 PMajamison5579 I used to love the Playstation cerca PS and PS2 lost the appeal after owning the PS3 for a while
07:32:46 PMGuest_hArry then we get OUYA!!!! yeahhhh
07:32:51 PMDave-Maydew Why does iOS 7 look like Android?
07:33:02 PM_Jot_ Guest_4761, sorry to hear it, other than trying to reload the page (which I'm sure you tried) I have no idea, I'm in The Netherlands and it works here
07:33:32 PM_Jot_ ErikaL, Fallout is a PC game, you should play it there
07:33:33 PMDave-Maydew Playstation anyday
07:33:40 PMDave-Maydew Oh dear
07:33:52 PMDave-Maydew where's the rope
07:33:59 PMDave-Maydew I wanna hang myself no
07:33:59 PMajamison5579 my experience is they are both fun but Xbox tends to have more sports related games and FPS games then the stuff I like which is RPG and JRPG
07:34:00 PMGuest_4761 Thanks, i tried it several times, but its not working :-((
07:34:14 PMagamotto My two big strikes so far: 1. microphone you can't turn off, 2. Kinect/camera that you can't physically disable.
07:34:20 PMPAULr2 thought this was linux show, microsoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07:34:53 PMDave-Maydew I grew up with Microsoft, but then I grew up
07:34:58 PMGuest_hArry Let's talk STEAM again thgen
07:35:02 PMDave-Maydew and went with Linux
07:35:05 PMagamotto Fallout is great game... been around a very long time in game terms
07:35:11 PM_Jot_ Guest_4761, the good thing is, you will be able to download and watch the show later at least, through the website, I don't think RobbieF can fix the problem right now with youtube
07:35:22 PMPAULr2 hahahaha
07:35:43 PMpyrosrock_eee ps is free to play online historicaly... nuff said
07:35:51 PMajamison5579 I fully expect Sega to come out at an E3 one year and just blow everyone away with their brand new super duper Sega system the first in over 10 years!
07:35:52 PMajamison5579 lol
07:35:58 PMGuest_hArry we already have that here in NY USA
07:35:59 PMDave-Maydew sweet
07:36:12 PMDave-Maydew they can come and cut my grass ;-D
07:36:17 PMGuest_hArry ORANGE COUNTY CHOPPERS made one a few years ago
07:36:21 PMGuest_hArry sweet thing
07:36:34 PMagamotto I would rather have some goats come by every few weeks.
07:36:46 PM_Jot_ I'm sure Nintendo will wee over the competition, o wii or however you write that word now (just to offer that brand up as well, they did make mario and such after all)
07:36:48 PMU-Al How did Erika pass the Category5 Guest Host questionaire? Microsoft. lol
07:36:49 PMGuest_hArry less gas huh
07:37:22 PMagamotto Call it the 'Tim Taylor' edition
07:37:41 PMajamison5579 I keep hearing the music from Deliverance when i hear Lawn mower racing
07:37:59 PMDave-Maydew We're erm.... what's the word for it here in the UK
07:38:02 PMagamotto I would imagine it to be very popular in the Texarkana area
07:38:09 PM_Jot_ nice ignoring what RobbieF said ErikaL, instead of providing a reply that was just as weird and silly and perhaps stupid :)
07:38:11 PMagamotto barmy?
07:38:13 PMGuest_hArry RobbieF , here in NY drunk guys ride those to by beer and get pulled over every time
07:38:18 PMajamison5579 Robbief Lawn Mower racing is almost as weird as Curling! ;)
07:38:19 PMGuest_hArry buy
07:38:50 PMDave-Maydew The Top Gear guys are nuts
07:39:06 PMajamison5579 the host of Top Gear is an jerk
07:39:23 PMajamison5579 he is so horrible when talking to a british actor about Americans
07:39:25 PMDave-Maydew Who Clarkson?
07:39:27 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, Guest_4761 has a question, he can't watch in Germany today, he gets a 'video not available' message
07:39:32 PMajamison5579 yes
07:39:35 PMpyrosrock_eee how can they say it has tomany mo
07:39:35 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
07:39:36 PMagamotto As long as they don't have Gordon Ramsay's potty mouth.
07:39:43 PMDave-Maydew he's great
07:39:52 PMpyrosrock_eee mods its all genuine
07:39:56 PMinvinciblemutant hi
07:40:10 PMpyrosrock_eee its by honds all from the factory
07:40:16 PMajamison5579 I mean I understand we are screwed up bunch of people here int he states but come on lol how much do you really need to hammer that home
07:40:30 PM_Jot_ If people want to watch the wedding-video, you can watch it in her profile on
07:41:11 PM_Jot_ It redirects to so it's all good :)
07:41:18 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF that sounded so wrong
07:41:24 PMGuest_hArry did she backed up before getting married?
07:42:02 PM_Jot_ She was very smart, her name is Abigail but 'Abby' got married, so I think if she wants out, all she has to do is say nope, Abigail didn't get married
07:42:12 PMagamotto heheeh
07:42:23 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF, can we have a whole episode to teaching her about Linux over Microsoft ;-
07:42:29 PMajamison5579 Dave-Maydew I will admit i found it funny when Top Gear interviewed Jay Leno and he had to stop listing all the cars Jay had because it was litterly over 6 pages long
07:42:55 PMDave-Maydew yeah I remember that one
07:43:00 PMGuest_hArry Dave-Maydew agreed
07:43:09 PMagamotto I saw his garage in Popular Science/Mechanics.... wow, gearhead's dream
07:43:10 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, only 6 pages? If I list all the cars I have, contained in all the racing-games I own, it's a lot more pages :)
07:43:43 PMDave-Maydew Don't do it naked, Sausages are the worst for fat burns lol
07:43:55 PMagamotto You have to really appreciate Jay Leno for actually driving his collection, instead of just letting them sit there.
07:44:06 PMGoodGuy System 76
07:44:24 PMajamison5579 agamotto I saw him recording a video while driving his 1920 electric car
07:44:27 PMDave-Maydew or Epson
07:44:30 PMGoodGuy HP has good drivers also
07:44:33 PMajamison5579 that was fun to watch
07:44:41 PM_Jot_ But I always cook and bake my sausages naked Dave-Maydew, I tried putting clothes on them, but there was this big fire-thing happening when I tried
07:44:47 PMagamotto Wireless adapters, certain video adapters remain sticking points
07:44:48 PMDave-Maydew Ubuntu works on most hardware
07:44:49 PMGoodGuy well drivers... not they are good
07:44:58 PMDave-Maydew except for certain nVidia cards
07:45:27 PMagamotto Tuxmachines?
07:45:28 PMajamison5579 Garbee now that its been out a while Windows 8 or Windows 7?
07:45:52 PMpyrosrock_eee 7
07:46:08 PM_Jot_ Guest_4761, did it work last week, and can you watch other videos on the channel, so is it just this weeks live broadcast that doesn't work?
07:46:30 PMGoodGuy Zorin 7
07:46:37 PM_Jot_ geez, stupid Jot questions
07:46:41 PMagamotto I moved to Mint 15... quite easy to move over to from 13
07:46:43 PMGuest_hArry Zorin here as well yeahhhh
07:46:47 PMinvinciblemutant has robbief lost weight?
07:47:08 PMinvinciblemutant lol
07:47:19 PMagamotto invinciblemutant, Nah, it is the lumberjack chameleon shirt
07:47:25 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, no, he gained some, he grew some more hair
07:47:29 PMDennis_Kelley this should be good _Jot_
07:48:07 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF was the original Armin Van Buuren
07:48:21 PM_Jot_ it should be around file 70 right now, with the upload, if my calculations are correctly
07:48:23 PMinvinciblemutant lol...
07:48:34 PMagamotto I have to applaud anyone who can get music out of their head and into an instrument
07:48:48 PMinvinciblemutant i am not from China...:P...
07:49:05 PMGuest_hArry I guess beacuse RobbieF got away, Tiesto grew like he is now huh?
07:49:06 PM_Jot_ and the site I mentioned was
07:49:12 PMajamison5579 Robbief lets hope that the connection does not break and you have to start over ')
07:49:15 PMajamison5579 ;)
07:49:16 PMRobbieF We have many viewers from China invinciblemutant
07:49:34 PMRobbieF
07:49:40 PMinvinciblemutant who is typing on RobbieF behalf?
07:49:55 PMajamison5579 Robbief is the video lags behind the chat
07:49:56 PMajamison5579 a bit
07:49:59 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, it's RobbieF, the video on youtube is about a minute behind due to encoding etc
07:50:34 PMinvinciblemutant wow...:(...lagging so much....
07:50:35 PMDave-Maydew It does yeah
07:50:39 PMajamison5579 so if you drink Wine while using a program in WINE will it work better
07:50:45 PM_Jot_ the radiofeed is less behind, but it's still a bit behind I think
07:50:51 PMGoodGuy Teamviewer is a Windows program afaik
07:50:58 PM_Jot_ it's difficult to say because the BSP is also 10-15 seconds behind or so
07:51:00 PMagamotto If memory serves, TeamViewer has problems if WINE is set for anything other than WinXP
07:51:01 PMDave-Maydew use the Wine PPA
07:51:17 PMinvinciblemutant I am imagining the speed of sound is transferred
07:51:32 PMinvinciblemutant a minute to reach far east....
07:51:38 PMinvinciblemutant :P
07:51:43 PMGoodGuy I couldn't get nVidia driver working on Point Linux
07:52:08 PMGoodGuy Have to try again with the new version just released
07:52:28 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, imagine how loud they must be shouting for you to hear it, I wouldn't want to be in the room with them right now
07:53:09 PMDave-Maydew that's exactly the version I run
07:53:15 PMDave-Maydew the 32bit one
07:53:29 PMDave-Maydew under Ubuntu 64bit
07:54:19 PMagamotto Intereting...didn't know there were linux-native clients for it
07:54:22 PMGoodGuy What is multiarch?
07:54:32 PMajamison5579 its a new type of cereal
07:54:34 PMGoodGuy I didnt either agamotto
07:54:38 PMagamotto packager
07:55:18 PMinvinciblemutant if you have problem with that, you all can use the web version of teamviewer
07:55:40 PMajamison5579 its called mutliarch because unlike windows Linux on a 64bit system can run 32bit and 64bit libraries simoltaneously without emulating 32bit
07:56:01 PMGoodGuy I did that
07:56:15 PMajamison5579 WoW64 on a windows 64bit system emulates 32bit functionality
07:56:16 PMGoodGuy I did that also
07:56:31 PMagamotto glx? isn't that a rather old driver?
07:56:42 PM_Jot_ I love Carrie Webb! (Sorry ErikaL)
07:56:51 PMGoodGuy I did that from your video, but it didnt work
07:57:23 PMagamotto I have next Tuesday off.. coolies
07:58:13 PMpyrosrock_eee RobbieF i say you shuld read every ever episode name
07:58:27 PMagamotto So, 301 will litterally be a hangout...
07:58:39 PMajamison5579 Robbief are you going to show clips from the days when it looked like you were using a webcam in your closest with a baseball cap
07:58:41 PMajamison5579 lol
07:58:55 PMinvinciblemutant is abigail a singer
07:58:56 PMinvinciblemutant ?
07:58:57 PMGoodGuy work greatr for Raspberry Pi's also
07:59:07 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, you mean all episodes? That's a bit much isn't it
07:59:31 PMajamison5579 _jot_ i mean like episodes 1-4
07:59:32 PMajamison5579 lol
07:59:49 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, I think all the hosts are multi-talented, but she isn't a professional singer, at least, from her profile
07:59:51 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - are you running 64-bit Point Linux?
07:59:52 PMDave-Maydew Cheers RobbiF and Erika
08:00:01 PMErikaL Cheers :)
08:00:05 PMRobbieF thanks all!
08:00:08 PMErikaL Good evening all :)
08:00:21 PMinvinciblemutant _Jot_: great show
08:00:27 PMinvinciblemutant it is a minute lagged here
08:00:28 PMErikaL Thanks , See you guys next week :)
08:00:40 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - are you running 64-bit Point Linux?
08:00:43 PMinvinciblemutant my greeting may be a belated one
08:00:47 PMpyrosrock_eee yeah a bit of delay
08:00:50 PM_Jot_ thanks invinciblemutant, I'll try to make it a great show next week too (like I had anything to do with it :P )
08:00:52 PMPAULr2 thanks, bye
08:01:02 PMinvinciblemutant label this chatroom a belated chatroom
08:01:04 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, unfortunatly Guest_4761 wasn't able to watch in Germany, he got a message saying 'Video not available'
08:01:05 PMDave-Maydew Ah, I must go and get a couple of hours sleep before Debby returns home at 8.30am
08:01:13 PMinvinciblemutant a minute lag is terrible
08:01:21 PM_Jot_ have a good rest Dave-Maydew, greetings to Debby
08:01:36 PMDave-Maydew I shall send you wishes to her in the morning
08:01:49 PMinvinciblemutant be in the community and a fantastic audience...
08:01:49 PM_Jot_ wait, you mean a bat-room? If RobbieF turns on the echo, it could become like a bat-cave even
08:01:58 PMGoodGuy usually it is spelled Debbie, isn't it?
08:02:00 PMDave-Maydew at the moment the Dog is resting better than I am lol
08:02:07 PMinvinciblemutant that is what makes the show so great
08:02:17 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, I'm not sure its medication works for you, don't try that :)
08:02:18 PMinvinciblemutant I think...robbief would agree with me
08:02:25 PMDave-Maydew It's definitely Debby
08:02:33 PMagamotto I hate to watch and run, but my dog is informing me that she really wants me to get out of my chair now and do something useful.
08:02:37 PMDave-Maydew She's a weird one ;-)
08:02:43 PMGoodGuy Cool... haven't seen that one
08:03:00 PM_Jot_ have a good time agamotto
08:03:01 PMinvinciblemutant ok guys...i gonna start my day now
08:03:03 PMinvinciblemutant 8am here
08:03:05 PMDave-Maydew and her name isn't shortened either
08:03:14 PM_Jot_ have a great morning invinciblemutant :)
08:03:20 PMDave-Maydew it's 1:03am here
08:03:35 PMinvinciblemutant see you all again...bye
08:03:50 PMinvinciblemutant have a nice day / good nite
08:04:13 PMDave-Maydew Good night invinciblemutant
08:04:23 PMDave-Maydew ah gone before I finished typing
08:04:45 PMDave-Maydew Good night everyone, see you next week, and I'll tune in on Thursday
08:05:03 PM_Jot_ good night Dave-Maydew :)
08:05:31 PMDave-Maydew night _Jot_
08:06:36 PMGoodGuy night
08:08:22 PMinvinciblemutant hi me again
08:08:32 PMinvinciblemutant just a quick question guys
08:08:45 PMinvinciblemutant I need to change my grub2 bootloader...
08:08:47 PM_Jot_ your quick answer is: six-hundred. Or purple
08:09:13 PMinvinciblemutant any quick answer which file to change the grub menu count down ticker
08:10:10 PM_Jot_ check /etc/default/grub (GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET
08:11:32 PM_Jot_ there is also a /etc/grub.d/00_header and it says line 236 here, with set timeout=0 which you can set to -1 for no countdown, 0 for menu will not display, and >=1 to set the number of seconds
08:11:48 PMinvinciblemutant thanks _Jot_ ...
08:14:23 PM_Jot_ I got my info from mostly
08:14:58 PMinvinciblemutant i will get a new machine from the university
08:15:14 PMinvinciblemutant restoring windows on it before returning the old machine
08:15:40 PMinvinciblemutant and also will set grub to boot from windows again
08:15:43 PMinvinciblemutant no waiting time...
08:15:53 PMinvinciblemutant virtually make grub invisible
08:16:33 PM_Jot_ if you have to install windows, it will overwrite grub anyway
08:16:49 PMinvinciblemutant i dont want any hassle restoring...
08:17:01 PMinvinciblemutant as this machine is dual boot
08:17:18 PMinvinciblemutant any gui tool to fix this quickly?
08:17:28 PMRobbieF tonight it's this, _Jot_
08:17:28 PMinvinciblemutant I want to change the default boot to windows
08:17:40 PMRobbieF take it back invinciblemutant, take it back! :)
08:18:25 PMinvinciblemutant huh?
08:18:37 PMRobbieF (08:17:28 P
08:19:09 PMinvinciblemutant return the machine on lease to the vendor...
08:19:22 PMRobbieF ah okay, acceptible.
08:19:23 PMRobbieF :)
08:19:29 PMinvinciblemutant i have to restore it back to windows...restore it to crap
08:19:36 PM_Jot_ it sure is loud, RobbieF
08:19:45 PMRobbieF i usually take an image of the hard drive with clonezilla right away
08:19:48 PMRobbieF that way I can revert easily
08:19:58 PMRobbieF _Jot_, I have both the board AND the headphone output up full.
08:20:04 PMRobbieF and bass boost too
08:20:07 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: it is dual boot
08:20:23 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: I just need to erase the linux partition using gparted
08:20:37 PMRobbieF haven't been feeling well today _Jot_ so need something powerful to pick me up while I get all the stuff done I need to and then just pick up where I left off tomorrow after a good night sleep
08:20:39 PMinvinciblemutant and configure grub to boot from windows partition
08:20:47 PM_Jot_ if you take it back, make sure to overwrite it first, don't need to do that a billion times, once is enough
08:21:08 PMRobbieF neah, derek's boot and nuke
08:21:10 PMRobbieF dban
08:21:16 PMRobbieF let them worry about reinstalling the os
08:21:16 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, isn't me being here not sickening enough? Oh wait, that's why you don't feel well. Sorry!
08:21:38 PMinvinciblemutant boot and nuke will kill the whole system
08:21:45 PMinvinciblemutant including the windows partition
08:21:48 PMRobbieF yeah; but you're returning it right?
08:21:49 PMinvinciblemutant i dont want to do that
08:21:51 PMRobbieF so that's what I'd do
08:21:55 PMRobbieF don't want them accessing your stuff
08:22:12 PMinvinciblemutant i will delete my user account
08:22:17 PMRobbieF that does nothing
08:22:22 PMRobbieF just removes the login
08:22:26 PMRobbieF the files can still be accessed
08:22:35 PMinvinciblemutant thinking of a way to shred my files
08:22:53 PMRobbieF dban
08:23:24 PMinvinciblemutant ok...will do dban then...return an empty system
08:23:27 PMinvinciblemutant lol
08:23:33 PMRobbieF that's what I'd do
08:23:39 PMinvinciblemutant ask them to f*** off
08:23:46 PMinvinciblemutant ;P
08:23:48 PMRobbieF anyone who gives a hard time over that, you'd just tell them you don't want people having access to your data
08:23:51 PMinvinciblemutant lol....
08:23:51 PMRobbieF they can reinstall an os
08:24:40 PMinvinciblemutant ok...i will just take your advice RobbieF
08:24:47 PM_Jot_ or just tell them the great RobbieF told you to do it :)
08:24:51 PMRobbieF backup first! :)
08:24:52 PMinvinciblemutant nuke it ....
08:25:10 PMinvinciblemutant the weapon of massive destruction in IT...
08:25:20 PMinvinciblemutant i have done it using clonezilla
08:25:35 PMinvinciblemutant oh yea...a quick question
08:25:38 PM_Jot_ yeah, I'd never let RobbieF near my computer, he'd erase the windows of all of them
08:26:18 PMinvinciblemutant i have my ubuntu home encrypted by default, will restoration on different machine still work?
08:26:26 PMRobbieF don't worry; I'd always replace it with something awesomer, _Jot_
08:26:44 PMRobbieF invincible, I think so yes. Try it first in a virtual machine
08:26:54 PMRobbieF create a DYNAMIC disk of 1 GB more than the original size
08:27:26 PMinvinciblemutant where can i find a machine with such a big space for vm
08:27:31 PMRobbieF don't need one
08:27:35 PMRobbieF it's dynamic
08:27:41 PMRobbieF it will only take as much space as the data
08:27:56 PMRobbieF eg., if you create a 2TB drive but it has 500 GB, it will only use 500 GB on the host
08:28:08 PMinvinciblemutant my current machine is 80% used up in storage
08:28:12 PMRobbieF just as long as your host has enough space
08:28:23 PMRobbieF what about creating the vm drive on an external?
08:28:26 PMinvinciblemutant i cant put 80% on 20%
08:28:41 PMinvinciblemutant mmm...
08:28:56 PMinvinciblemutant let's check the forum out first
08:34:37 PM_Jot_ I checked the forum and there was nothing about preventing RobbieF installing linux, oh well
08:34:49 PMRobbieF heh
08:35:23 PMinvinciblemutant i dont think that it will give your problem on the same hardware
08:35:35 PMinvinciblemutant i am worrying about different hardware
08:39:58 PMRobbieF virtual machine is not the same hardware
08:40:10 PM_Jot_ lady, you claim I stole your heart, but I never even heard your voice before today, are you sure your medication is working?
08:40:23 PMRobbieF :)
08:40:55 PMinvinciblemutant i know...i do have an ext drive, but running vm on usb2 is a pain ...
08:41:24 PM_Jot_ remember you really only need enough space for your linux-partition
08:41:42 PM_Jot_ unless you used the windows, of course, then you might want a backup of that
08:42:32 PMinvinciblemutant
08:42:52 PMinvinciblemutant Keithhn said it
08:45:05 PM_Jot_ it does of course depend on what kind of encryption, harddrives support a kind of hardware-encryption as well, or access-control, so it doesn't always work, but copying data is what clonezilla etc does, it doesn't matter what data
08:45:57 PMinvinciblemutant true though
08:51:51 PM_Jot_ I tried putting an encrypted drive in my clone, but it didn't appreciate metal parts in its fleshy body
08:53:25 PMinvinciblemutant _Jot_: ?
08:54:04 PM_Jot_ yeah, I didn't understand it either, I mean, normally it puts all kinds of stuff under its nose, but oh well
08:54:17 PMRobbieF well friends, I am off
08:54:21 PMRobbieF thanks for hanging with me
08:54:28 PMRobbieF I made it this far, but I'm sick as a dog :)
08:54:30 PMRobbieF time to go rest.
08:54:31 PMRobbieF seeya
08:54:41 PM_Jot_ feel better soon RobbieF, we all support you
08:54:49 PMRobbieF thanks man
08:54:53 PMRobbieF night


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