Chat Logs for Episode 312 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 77 Posts:_Jot_
With 73 Posts:RobbieF
With 28 Posts:Garbee
With 23 Posts:Mike69de
With 20 Posts:revdjenk


Chat Logs:

06:58:15 PMpaulr8 hi
06:58:16 PM_Jot_ hi from the netherlands :)
06:58:58 PMDennis_Kelley Hello All!
06:59:04 PM_Jot_ hi Dennis_Kelley
06:59:15 PMDennis_Kelley Hello _Jot_
07:00:46 PM_Jot_ ah, I have some image so things will start soon
07:03:26 PMMike69de I have no live stream right now... anyone else ?
07:03:40 PM_Jot_ VLC is working and youtube is working too, just the radio isn't working
07:03:58 PMtic-toc I have live stream
07:03:59 PM_Jot_ so http://live.cat5.tv/main should work for you
07:04:06 PMswl_brasil youtube ok here
07:04:19 PMMike69de oh... what is the VLC URL ? I ried the link "live" from the website...
07:05:24 PM_Jot_ To open with VLC, go to the main site at category5.tv and click on the yellow 'open with VLC' and open it with VLC :) or copy the link and paste it in VLC
07:05:41 PM_Jot_ happy belated birthday ErikaL1
07:06:35 PM_Jot_ radiostream is working now too
07:07:00 PMErikaL1 thank you
07:07:19 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/startrek for the indiegogo project
07:07:19 PMgpop7 hello jot, goodguy and all
07:07:29 PMGoodGuy hi gpop7
07:08:33 PM_Jot_ hey gpop7
07:09:03 PMkeckeckec What is the URL for youtube?
07:09:12 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/main
07:09:16 PMMike69de nothing works for me.... :-(
07:09:21 PM_Jot_ http://live.cat5.tv/main I mean
07:09:48 PMswl_brasil the mic
07:10:19 PMswl_brasil microphone problems
07:10:24 PM_Jot_ to sponsor category5, go to http://cat5.tv/c
07:11:18 PMMike69de even the m3u stream just works for 19 seconds...
07:11:47 PMMike69de all options on teh website are not working for me...:-( has the show already begun ?
07:11:49 PMSr_Wences Hey! I jsut joined in. I discovered you last week and have been on an orgy of old shows from a year ago.
07:12:07 PMswl_brasil when robbie moves the mic fail
07:12:10 PM_Jot_ hi Sr_wences, welcome to the live show :)
07:12:28 PMSr_Wences Thanks Jot (I have heard of you already)
07:12:44 PM_Jot_ Sr_Wences, look far enough back and you'll see me too! Sorry :P
07:13:09 PMSr_Wences I jsut started a few episodes before the 5th anniversary season.
07:13:12 PM_Jot_ there is of course also the members photo gallery which is interesting for that
07:13:35 PMSr_Wences Ugh! You don't need to see me... no treat there! :-)
07:14:15 PMswl_brasil when robbie moves the mic fail (live?)
07:14:31 PM_Jot_ that's fine, I just figured I'd put it up there since many people don't know about it :)
07:14:44 PM_Jot_ yeah, I messaged him but not sure if he saw it
07:14:50 PMMike69de Yeahhhh ... now it works after using "proxy Tube" in Firefox ...seems to be a "German" problem :-))
07:15:58 PMkeckeckec ErikaL1 -- Robbie's mic is cutting out sometimes when he moves
07:16:09 PM_Jot_ sorry about that Mike69de, seems strange because its category5. Hopefully you can at least watch the non-live stuff and download files, which doesn't come from youtube
07:17:05 PMMike69de JOt its working now... with a proxy active in FF.. otherwise it seems the live stream in Germany is blocked because maybe of legal things here ..?
07:17:39 PM_Jot_ Mike69de, probably, youtube isn't liked in Germany a lot, so I'm sure that happens with a lot of things
07:18:25 PMMike69de yeah ...your right...
07:19:01 PM_Jot_ becuase all the videofiles and streaming old episodes comes from Robbies own CDN it should not have those issues at least
07:19:02 PMMike69de @Robbie...: now the sound is cleat without noise and hisses... :-)
07:19:30 PMMike69de I mean "clear" :)
07:19:48 PMErikaL1 Thank you Mike69de , all fixed !
07:20:04 PMMike69de :-)
07:21:58 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I am sure you don't want us to send you 40GB very high quality video files :P you are a weird person asking for videos to test!
07:22:10 PMRobbieF sure why not! :) haha
07:22:26 PM_Jot_ I am so glad I have a pogoplug :)
07:24:02 PMSr_Wences QUESTION: I have a cheap 27 inch monitor that I'd like to use for a nice picture frame. What's a cheap/low power way of doing it and grabbing the photos off the server (upnp preferably)? RikoMagic? XMBC on a Raspberry PI? something else?
07:24:43 PM_Jot_ I'd use a rikomagic because it is smaller and plugs directly in a monitor
07:25:04 PM_Jot_ at least if you have a hdmi monitor or conversion-plug etc
07:26:58 PMSr_Wences yes, it has HDMI (with HDCP). I'm also thinking of using an old WDTV. Anyone have experience with some of the other "Android on a sticks" besides the RikoMagic? And it might be fun to play with a RBP. Somany options.
07:27:58 PM_Jot_ I'd porbbaly just use the old wdtv if it works, because it won't be the most low-power, but if you have it already then the cost you save from buying another device would be more than what you save
07:28:30 PMnelson_ Hi robbie
07:28:42 PMtic-toc Sorry Canada for our spying azz useless President / NSA....He's America's biggest mistake
07:28:59 PM_Jot_ hi people
07:29:05 PM_Jot_ just canada, tic-toc?
07:29:18 PMtic-toc no -the world
07:29:56 PMSr_Wences Folks... tech show. Let's not go down the political shouting rat hole...
07:30:22 PMtic-toc privacy is tech related
07:30:49 PM_Jot_ wait, what? RobbieF is a fortuneteller?
07:31:13 PMnelson_ Robbie, there is no such thing as privacy any more, both online and once you walk out your front door.
07:31:25 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, we know where you are! You are in Barrie, Ontario, Canada! And so is ErikaL1 right now!
07:32:29 PMswl_brasil http://www.atenlabs.com/camwar/index.php?action=topcams&offset=592
07:32:44 PMswl_brasil no privacy
07:33:23 PMtic-toc But it's OK for the NSA to do it....laughable
07:34:44 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, in Europe there are plans to put GPS/GSM in every car so the car can dial in case of accidents, but this allows everybody to track every car too
07:35:10 PMrevdjenk is the show on? I am getting a blank screen here
07:35:24 PMMike69de Is it ok to enter a linux question here ?
07:35:27 PMsidney__ Robbie thats just an excuse to chip all children then aldults
07:35:31 PM_Jot_ yes revdjenk
07:35:37 PMnelson_ A woman in Toronto got her bike stolen and got it back a couple of weeks agfo by going to twitter
07:35:41 PMsidney__ adults
07:36:42 PMG_Dog1985_ yes Mike69de
07:36:59 PMMike69de ok...so i will :)
07:37:02 PMSr_Wences I tried to view with my android tablet and I got a blank screen, so I grabbed my laptop (running Elementary OS and Chrome) and it was fine.
07:37:19 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, VLC and the radio are working too
07:37:29 PMMike69de I have a stupid questions regarding bash scripts: how can i design a script that automatically answers / uses the root password when starting for example mysql and other services ? Maybe its not the best idea to use the root account... ? right now I have to scripts accessed by 2 lins from the desktop to start and stop some services. Works but I have to enter the password manually and want to avoid this.
07:37:52 PMGarbee RobbieF, live.cat5.tv needs a favicon.
07:37:52 PM_Jot_ I really don't think you want that Mike69de
07:38:00 PMGarbee I lost tabs w/o favicons...
07:38:05 PMGarbee lose*
07:38:19 PMMike69de sure I want that :-)
07:38:22 PMpaulr8 can you explain the differences between the Linux file systems? ex2,3,4, ect.
07:38:57 PM_Jot_ paulr8, ext2 and ext3 are basically the same, just extt3 has journalling added to it, don't know what they added to ext4
07:39:31 PMpaulr8 thks
07:40:06 PMswl_brasil i use xfs file system...i note it is more speed
07:40:14 PMGarbee _Jot_, EXT4 is just patches to handle more data on a drive.
07:40:22 PMGarbee 1EB according to wikipedia.
07:40:25 PMrevdjenk none of those are working either, _Jot_ shows error
07:40:40 PMGarbee The principal developer of EXT3 thinks BTRFS is a better way to go now.
07:40:46 PMMike69de I want to start and stop it for testing using Xampp ..and that needs my root password...
07:41:25 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, the streams were started a bit late, but they have been okay after that, mike just mentioned youtube didn't work in germany but nobody else had issues
07:41:34 PMkeckeckec Copy/paste passwd from clipboard
07:41:40 PM_Jot_ except for myself with vlc and the radio not working for a while
07:42:00 PMSr_Wences Hey, Robbie what about my question...
07:42:18 PMErikaL1 did you state it eariler ?
07:42:20 PMrevdjenk vlc requires a decoder plugin... looking for that
07:42:26 PMSr_Wences QUESTION: I have a cheap 27 inch monitor that I'd like to use for a nice picture frame. What's a cheap/low power way of doing it and grabbing the photos off the server (upnp preferably)? RikoMagic? XMBC on a Raspberry PI? something else? (jot has already given some answer, but I wam always interested in your opiion)
07:42:32 PMErikaL1 Ok ill read it next :)
07:42:40 PMErikaL1 sorry for missing it !
07:42:43 PMGarbee Sr_Wences, If you see any political talk, let me know please. Discussion should be kept strictly technical.
07:43:45 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, I'm using VLC 2.0.8 on windows and that had some issues, but after opening it from the main website it worked, maybe it did work from the player again too, since it was when the stream wasn't started
07:43:52 PMSr_Wences Privacy discussion was fine, but we were skirting political stuff... but I think we survived. I've seen too many chat derailed by political shouting.
07:44:19 PMGarbee Yea, politics has derailed things here before too. Which is why an end was put to it.
07:45:13 PMGarbee Hello RachelX!
07:45:54 PM_Jot_ I bet you can even make backups easily. Backups are important.
07:46:27 PMswl_brasil Can you suggest a simple gtk calendar aplication? Google and Mozila solutions is not for me.
07:47:03 PMGarbee swl_brasil, Do you want your calendar online or just on your system?
07:47:15 PMswl_brasil on my system
07:47:44 PMGarbee hm, I don't see the one I used to use in the repo anymore. :(
07:48:49 PMGarbee Um, is the stream messed up for anyone else?
07:48:56 PM_Jot_ it is working for me Garbee
07:48:59 PMMike69de it was...
07:49:05 PMMike69de now again working
07:49:08 PMGarbee hm, stopped and played again and it is working.
07:49:10 PMkeckeckec What about Thunderbird's calendar?
07:49:13 PMGarbee Refresh didn't work.
07:49:37 PM_Jot_ probably a youtube-fault or something cause the audio was fine
07:50:14 PMSr_Wences THANKS! I think I'll give that a shot.I love XBMC on Linux.
07:50:20 PMSr_Wences VELCRO!
07:50:23 PMGarbee RobbieF, Do you namespace your PHP code? :X
07:51:24 PMBobK54 GV-20 (MK808) hanging on a plastic hook double-stick-taped to the back of my TV!
07:51:53 PM_Jot_ hi people reading this after the fact :P
07:52:33 PMGarbee Thunderbird = Mozilla iirc...
07:52:43 PMGarbee Thunderbird also has one built in.
07:52:51 PMGarbee With a plugin to extend it even further.
07:53:38 PMswl_brasil thank you very much
07:53:55 PMGarbee Wow, chatroom looks fairly quite tonight.
07:54:04 PMGarbee What is wrong with you people?
07:54:07 PMGarbee ;)
07:54:13 PMrevdjenk Garbee: phhhhht
07:54:20 PM_Jot_ we're watching this show called Category5 Garbee
07:54:23 PMkeckeckec Bla Bla Bla
07:54:27 PM_Jot_ it has Erika Lalonde on it and that bald guy
07:54:31 PMrevdjenk yadda yadda yadda
07:54:38 PMGarbee _Jot_, don't worry. You can fast-forward through it tomorrow.
07:54:46 PMtic-toc Were afraid the NSA is watching us
07:54:47 PMMike69de :-))
07:56:53 PMGarbee With those cards though your motherboard needs to support the bandwidth.
07:57:23 PMGoodGuy I thought Highpoint had one with four controllers on a card
07:57:43 PMBobK54 any suggestions for latency issues between the forum and the actual live broadcast? sometimes I see a comment on here about something Robbie WILL SAY 15-30 secnds later on my video feed!
07:58:11 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, 480/12/1.5Mbps is for USB 2.0/ and 1.1 speeds
07:58:14 PMGarbee BobK54, Get less lag on your internet connection.
07:58:41 PMGarbee It is just an inherent issue with streaming and peoples bandwidth.
07:58:42 PMGoodGuy http://www.amazon.com/HighPoint-Generation-PCI-Express-RocketU-1144B/dp/B00A8FJIBO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce/183-7893416-1657138
07:59:06 PMBobK54 10Mbs connection here now. weird.
07:59:07 PMGarbee Not too much that can be done unless your router supports Quality of Service, and even then depending on your WAN connection that won't help much.
07:59:27 PMGarbee BobK54, Odd...
07:59:32 PMBobK54 sometimes I just stop the player and restart it and it catches up. not a huge problem
07:59:54 PMGarbee Maybe it is something to do with YouTube's buffering.
08:00:02 PMtic-toc tweaked Zorin 6 with pantheon - like in elementary os.... could not believe how much faster it was
08:00:34 PM_Jot_ BobK54, usually those are my comments and it is because I listen to VLC which is earlier than youtube generally, or the radio
08:00:59 PMMike69de Thanks .... was my first live show :-)
08:01:08 PMBobK54 i need to try the vlc feed next time. used to have better luck with that on TLLTS too.
08:01:13 PMSr_Wences I've only been using Elementary OS for a few days on an old laptop, but for simple browsing and such its fine!
08:01:26 PMBobK54 night all!
08:01:31 PM_Jot_ it's great isn't it Mike69de? Great you solved hte youtube thing too :)
08:01:31 PMswl_brasil a great kiss to you all, special to Erika
08:01:46 PMgpop7 Goodnight everyone. have a great week.
08:01:47 PM_Jot_ night BobK54
08:01:53 PM_Jot_ you too gpop7
08:01:58 PMnapa_polarbear bye all
08:02:04 PM_Jot_ see you napa_polarbear
08:02:13 PMMike69de yeah ... i like it... and I dont havbe to work today...so its not a problem ritght now... because its 2 am ;-)
08:02:14 PMSr_Wences WOW! my first live show. Fun! I won't be able to atch live much, but tonight was an exception.
08:02:33 PMswl_brasil see you next week
08:02:36 PM_Jot_ you're welcome Sr_Wences and you're always welcome :)
08:02:43 PM_Jot_ see you next week swl_brasil :)
08:02:47 PMMike69de So good night to all :-)
08:02:53 PM_Jot_ good night Mike69de
08:03:04 PMMike69de good night Jot :)
08:03:10 PMSr_Wences (I can't belive they didn't know who Sr. Wences was - kids nowadays). Thanks Jot!
08:03:33 PM_Jot_ Sr_Wences, well, they are Canadian, it can't be helped :P
08:03:41 PMSr_Wences Night!
08:04:26 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: for some reason ffmpeg had been uninstalled! bah
08:05:27 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, I hate it when modules go on holiday!
08:05:48 PMrevdjenk well, it would work now, if RobbieF was still broadcasting....
08:06:11 PM_Jot_ the BSP is still up
08:06:20 PMrevdjenk _Jot_: which is why some of my youtube vids wouldn't display also!
08:06:41 PMrevdjenk now they are working!
08:06:51 PM_Jot_ revdjenk, yeah, sounds like it. Maybe you installed something and that thought it had to get rid of it
08:07:04 PMrevdjenk could well be ...
08:07:53 PMrevdjenk well.... off to watch this week in android
08:08:02 PM_Jot_ have fun revdjenk :)
08:08:19 PMrevdjenk byeeee
08:11:14 PMRobbieF hey folks
08:11:19 PMRobbieF hope you had fun :)
08:11:32 PMkeckeckec Great fun, RobbieF
08:11:35 PM_Jot_ hi RobbieF, we had :) we hope you had too
08:12:28 PMkeckeckec Going home from work now. Seeya all later
08:12:42 PM_Jot_ safe travels keckeckec
08:12:58 PMRobbieF Indeed :)
08:13:06 PMRobbieF ach missed him
08:17:46 PM_Jot_ was the issue a cable or position of the microphone with the sound earlier RobbieF/
08:18:00 PMRobbieF I think one of us was sitting on the cable...
08:18:29 PM_Jot_ In other news, RobbieF is getting fat and sitting on cables where that never happened with a thin RobbieF :)
08:18:47 PMRobbieF :)
08:19:52 PM_Jot_ it sounded like battery-issues so glad it wasn't a big problem
08:21:33 PMRobbieF Still... wish we had a way to know about issues faster.
08:21:39 PMRobbieF I should give you access to a light trigger.
08:21:59 PM_Jot_ probably, I did send PMs but not sure you got those
08:22:09 PMRobbieF yes but not quickly enough
08:23:03 PM_Jot_ I guess making Bekah listen to the stream and giving it to her which would be faster would not work :)
08:26:55 PM_Jot_ wow, the BSP goes offline quickly these days :)
08:27:39 PMRobbieF :/
08:30:40 PM_Jot_ I figured I'd see if it meant 312 was available yet, but not quite :) I wonder how the encoding goes
08:49:28 PMRobbieF neah, have to edit it from Heather's video
08:49:35 PMRobbieF new transcoders aren't online yet
08:49:45 PMRobbieF sorry; gimme a few more minutes to catch up and then I'll tell you what's up
08:49:46 PMRobbieF :)
08:50:27 PM_Jot_ oh, don't worry about it :) I was just teasing
08:56:11 PMRobbieF :) I know
08:56:16 PMRobbieF but I love chatting with you when I can
08:56:20 PMRobbieF brb
09:00:31 PMRobbieF Hi
09:00:35 PMRobbieF so... did some math.
09:00:37 PM_Jot_ hey
09:00:56 PMRobbieF the transcoder was going to take 72 days STRAIGHT (no rest) to run through all 311 back episodes.
09:01:03 PMRobbieF just not doable
09:01:08 PMRobbieF so I went back to the drawing board a bit
09:01:31 PMRobbieF That old "loaner" server we got when our old server got fried? They gave it to us way back then.
09:01:42 PM_Jot_ yeah :)
09:01:43 PMrevdjenk that is a little long, eh RobbieF ?
09:01:45 PMRobbieF but since it had trouble (remember the strange skipping?) we didn't end up using it for anything
09:01:51 PMRobbieF insanity revdjenk
09:02:04 PMRobbieF imagine having to wait 72 days to launch something that is ready today...
09:02:07 PMrevdjenk yes...
09:02:12 PMRobbieF so I pulled that old "busted" server out of storage.
09:02:16 PMRobbieF gave it a once over...
09:02:22 PMRobbieF stuck a hard drive in it and bought a new PSU
09:02:26 PMRobbieF PSU cost $30
09:02:37 PMRobbieF hard drive was the old one from the unraid server before our most recent upgrade
09:02:39 PMRobbieF so, free
09:02:47 PMRobbieF so I'm going to build it into a transcoder server
09:02:58 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: was that the lightning caused upgrade?
09:03:09 PMRobbieF while it didn't work for the broadcast the fact remains, it is an *8 core* system with dual CPUs.
09:03:25 PM_Jot_ I have an old AMD x2 that I can run whenever if you need computing-power if that's a problem
09:03:27 PMRobbieF no revdjenk, it was the "Oh no, we didn't have enough space to store this week's episode" :)
09:03:35 PMrevdjenk yikes
09:03:36 PMRobbieF thanks _jot_
09:03:59 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: and I have an old M based Pentium hanging around
09:04:05 PMRobbieF Also, our storage needs for the show alone (just the episodes) has officially exceeded 1TB...
09:04:15 PMRobbieF so I've been trying to figure it all out
09:04:26 PMRobbieF Most shows would just remove the old episodes
09:04:36 PMRobbieF I prefer to make everything accessible, for those who want to look back
09:04:41 PMrevdjenk you have Tb drives coming weekly from newegg?
09:04:47 PMRobbieF ha
09:05:05 PMRobbieF Hard drive space isn't the most terrible thing... it's hosting space
09:05:08 PM_Jot_ with 5TB drives coming, 1TB isn't really that much unless you have to transfer it :)
09:05:13 PMRobbieF yes
09:05:16 PMRobbieF and I do
09:05:19 PMRobbieF :)
09:05:22 PMRobbieF twice over
09:05:28 PMrevdjenk yes ... cloud .... whoosh .... goes the $
09:05:29 PMRobbieF one for rss, one for on-demand
09:05:31 PMRobbieF yep
09:05:38 PMRobbieF all videos are in the cloud
09:05:39 PMRobbieF le gasp
09:05:58 PMRobbieF and I have to upload the 1TB worth of video files once they're done transcoding
09:06:20 PMRobbieF hoping the old "new" server will expedite the transcoding big time
09:06:36 PM_Jot_ it should with the specs it had
09:06:41 PMRobbieF yes
09:06:44 PMRobbieF very good system
09:06:52 PMRobbieF 3.2 GHz per CPU
09:06:55 PMRobbieF 4 cores per cpu
09:06:57 PMRobbieF 2x cpu
09:07:07 PMRobbieF Xeon
09:07:13 PMRobbieF with 16 GB RAM
09:08:04 PMrevdjenk whoosh
09:08:18 PM_Jot_ even if it doesn't have a lot of space it should go through the files faster than you can supply them :)
09:10:51 PMRobbieF well, I wrote a program to automatically move the files off to the cloud DURING the transcode process (eg., multitasking)
09:10:58 PMRobbieF so space shouldn't be an issue
09:11:07 PMRobbieF even with an 8GB SSD it can handle all 1 TB
09:17:28 PMRobbieF So needless to say, I'm excited to introduce the new transcoders ... when they are ready.
09:17:38 PMRobbieF a few more weeks, I think.
09:17:52 PM_Jot_ yeah, is the old server quiet though like the new one?
09:17:53 PMRobbieF Hopefully as part of our Season 7 launch
09:18:00 PMRobbieF no the old one is very loud
09:18:07 PMRobbieF But our server room is closed off
09:18:49 PMRobbieF I guess it will be quieter now since it no longer has 7 hard drives in it :)
09:18:52 PMRobbieF just will have one drive
09:19:16 PM_Jot_ poor drivespace, it will worry about not being good enough :)
09:19:42 PM_Jot_ it'll have so much cores and more memory than drivespace
09:21:18 PMRobbieF yep
09:21:20 PMRobbieF it's true
09:21:42 PMRobbieF I have an 8GB SSDNOW drive and I'm tempted to use it

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
BobK54
Dennis_Kelley
ErikaL1
G_Dog1985_
Garbee
GoodGuy
Mike69de
RobbieF
Sr_Wences
_Jot_
gpop7
keckeckec
napa_polarbear
nelson_
paulr8
revdjenk
sidney__
swl_brasil
tic-toc