Chat Logs for Episode 313 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 98 Posts:RobbieF
With 96 Posts:TNFrank
With 61 Posts:revdjenk
With 47 Posts:GoodGuy
With 29 Posts:_Jot_


Chat Logs:

06:58:23 PMRobbieF nearly time!
06:59:06 PMRobbieF test
06:59:24 PMpaulr8 hello
06:59:36 PMRobbieF that's better
06:59:45 PMRobbieF 15 seconds
07:00:18 PMnapa_polarbear hello
07:00:57 PMkeckeckec Which feed has the lest delay? Or is it location dependent?
07:01:21 PMG_Dog1985_ lol
07:01:23 PM_Jot_ radio has the least delay and VLC
07:01:24 PMDennis_Kelley Hello all!
07:01:33 PM_Jot_ youtube is the slowest
07:02:12 PMDennis_Kelley is it going to be a pre recorded show?
07:02:35 PMDennis_Kelley Bekah - Great to see you on the show!
07:03:02 PMRobbieF Hey Dennis_Kelley!
07:03:22 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF - Glad to see you too!
07:03:35 PMBekah :)
07:03:50 PMsprintcowboy howdy all
07:04:21 PMG_Dog1985_ i see all stargate
07:04:48 PMSr_Wences I never got into Stargate.
07:04:54 PMeek-a-mouse I do not like sci fi and fantasy movies/series
07:04:58 PMledzep test
07:06:12 PMRobbieF we will try not to hold that against you eek-a-mouse ;)
07:06:17 PMRobbieF Hey sprintcowboy
07:06:39 PMeek-a-mouse ahha RobbieF
07:06:45 PMRobbieF Sr_Wences we got into SG-1 specifically because we were trying to fill a void of Star Trek... it took a bit of time, but once we got into it, we fell in love with it.
07:07:01 PM_Jot_ it took seconds to download files and such and they were very small!
07:07:10 PM_Jot_ about the same size as an MP3 but with video
07:07:13 PM_Jot_ for mobile files
07:07:45 PMRobbieF http://www.baldnerd.com/why-am-i-so-excited-about-this-transcoder-thing/
07:07:55 PMSr_Wences I may give it a shot - its on NetFlix, right?
07:08:00 PMRobbieF Yes
07:08:33 PMRobbieF Like any ... "new" ... show, give it 8-10 episodes before deciding.
07:09:02 PMRobbieF Yay; Category5 Radio is working perfectly tonight _Jot_ - feeding directly from Telestream Wirecast.
07:09:05 PMDennis_Kelley Seven Years of awesome tech info and new friends!
07:09:18 PMRobbieF :-D
07:09:33 PM_Jot_ radio is always amazing :)
07:10:03 PMRobbieF well, the past few weeks we had to pipe it off our console
07:10:25 PMRobbieF this week, we got the feed working directly from Wirecast (so you can even hear the commercial and intro music)
07:10:34 PM_Jot_ I liked hearing the other things :)
07:10:42 PMRobbieF :)
07:11:09 PMGuest_4031 Robbie is it possible to set up persistence on any OS other than Ubuntu based systems..So even if my PC crashed I could have my OS anywhere I go..IE Point Linux
07:11:38 PMGuest_4031 on a pen drive sorry left that out
07:11:43 PMRobbieF Guest_4031 do you mean redundancy to keep you up and running in event of a crash?
07:11:59 PMRobbieF oh
07:12:13 PMRobbieF if you dd a copy of that pen drive once a week maybe?
07:14:10 PMinvinciblemutant hello
07:14:16 PMinvinciblemutant good day everyone
07:14:30 PMkeckeckec invinciblemutant -- hi hi hi
07:14:33 PM_Jot_ hi invinciblemutant
07:15:02 PMBekah Hello inviciblemutant :)
07:15:19 PMDennis_Kelley BAckup
07:16:45 PMRobbieF +1 Dennis_Kelley
07:16:52 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/mergeide
07:18:01 PM_Jot_ you could send a notification to yourself in the future for episode 370 :)
07:18:09 PMRobbieF http://www.category5.tv/episodes/307.php - Part 1 of this series.
07:18:21 PMRobbieF ^^ _Jot_ http://futureme.org
07:18:23 PMGuest_4031 That doesn't answer the question...How do you create persistence..a very simple question
07:18:47 PMRobbieF oh you want persistence; I thought you were looking for redundancy sorry
07:19:07 PMGuest_4031 ]Yup
07:20:22 PMRobbieF Is this what you want? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence?action=show&redirect=LiveCDPersistence
07:20:39 PMRobbieF I _believe_ that has step-by-step.
07:20:48 PMRobbieF Some usb installers these days have the option.
07:20:53 PMRobbieF (automatically)
07:21:27 PM_Jot_ windows doesn't support storing OS data on a stick, so I don't think the question can be answered
07:22:02 PMSovereign Is this prerecorded?
07:22:10 PMGoodGuy No
07:22:22 PMGoodGuy most shows are live
07:22:44 PMGuest_4031 Did you not read the question...Remember I said it works for UBUNTU based OS..So can I recreate persistence with ARCH or Debian ...How is persistence set up...Just ask Robbie he might know
07:22:52 PMSovereign Robbie dosent seem to be typing
07:22:55 PM_Jot_ sometimes the feauture is recorded and the rest of th show is live but that is also only if something involves a lot of time
07:23:12 PMRobbieF Sorry Guest_4031 - having to multitask :)
07:23:41 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: - Do you need two keys to run Windows native and in a VM?
07:23:44 PM_Jot_ you asked about any OS other than Ubuntu and you can't do it on any OS, just on some :)
07:24:03 PMRobbieF GoodGuy - yes. This would be to _replace_ the running OS (eg., re-format the laptop with Linux)
07:24:11 PMRobbieF you need a second license if you wish to run _both_
07:24:38 PMGoodGuy That isn't good news... several hundred to use it on the same actual hardware
07:24:59 PMRobbieF The plan is, virtualize it so you no longer need it to be the host os
07:25:01 PMGoodGuy Doesn't seem fair for home users
07:25:07 PMRobbieF No, Microsoft often is not.
07:25:14 PMGoodGuy True :-)
07:25:21 PMRobbieF Free as in freedom is a very attractive model. Linux knows all about it, and that's why we're here.
07:25:58 PMSovereign The entire laptop is a VM
07:25:59 PM_Jot_ you do need a 2nd key if you have an OEM-license as well, because that is linked to the computer
07:26:05 PMGoodGuy Just be nice to run it native for games on bare metal and as a VM for regular apps
07:26:30 PMGoodGuy I have a regular license, not an OEM
07:27:29 PMkeckeckec Great job, RobbieF. I'll catch the download. Gotta run now. Bye
07:27:36 PMDennis_Kelley cool!
07:27:37 PMRobbieF cheers keckeckec
07:27:58 PMDennis_Kelley see ya keckeckec
07:28:33 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: Is this available on The Meat replacement (Youtube?)
07:29:00 PMRobbieF GoodGuy - lots to come to http://linuxtechshow.com and this is one of the features, yes. It just has to be edited down.
07:29:11 PMGoodGuy Thank you
07:29:31 PMSovereign Think I need to watch last weeks show.
07:29:51 PM_Jot_ they are all available for viewing :)
07:30:52 PMGoodGuy Microsoft will allow you to trade GOLD for IRON
07:30:54 PMSovereign What are the spects on that laptop
07:31:07 PMRobbieF You can also turn in your platinum for poop.
07:31:07 PMSovereign specs
07:31:45 PMGoodGuy There is a Firefox extension to do a Win 8 new tab
07:32:48 PMDennis_Kelley does anyone have one of those projection keyboard. it uses laser to project a keyboard on the table and knows what keys you press.
07:33:02 PMRobbieF I don't have one, but have tried it.
07:33:29 PM_Jot_ I know about them but haven't tried them, they don't seem to work very well for me I'm sure
07:33:37 PMGoodGuy There is a Chrome extension to do a Win 8 new tab
07:34:03 PMRobbieF There is a GIMP plugin that makes colored squares.
07:34:29 PMDennis_Kelley because they can!
07:34:58 PMeek-a-mouse I have 200 gb of stuff i wanna back up online, im using linux, what do you recommand?
07:35:20 PMRobbieF Dreamhost.
07:35:37 PMeek-a-mouse im gonna check it out
07:35:39 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/dreamhost
07:35:46 PMRobbieF I can get you a coupon code
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07:36:41 PMRobbieF hmm, it says 50 GB which isn't enough for you.. let me look into it...
07:37:20 PMRobbieF Hmmm...
07:37:27 PMRobbieF I'm sure you can get 200 GB with them too
07:37:33 PMDennis_Kelley throw that paper! you are so tough
07:37:34 PMRobbieF but it's the cheapest solution, I reckon.
07:37:44 PMGoodGuy CrashPlan?
07:37:46 PMRobbieF worth looking into eek-a-mouse
07:38:23 PMSovereign Why not just run BSDfor the VM
07:38:39 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: - Have you considered affiliate programs like the Linux Action Show offers?
07:38:50 PMDennis_Kelley true say!
07:38:55 PMRobbieF Dreamhost pays us GoodGuy ;)
07:38:55 PMeek-a-mouse RobbieF: it was more something to use only to back up audio and video, but it's a log of GB
07:39:14 PMeek-a-mouse a lot
07:39:18 PMGoodGuy I know.... I meant Amazon, etc for users buying stuff
07:39:19 PMRobbieF eek-a-mouse would a Pogoplug work?
07:39:30 PMRobbieF GoodGuy - http://cat5.tv/bh
07:39:33 PMG_Dog1985_ eek-a-mouse: http://l.bitcasa.com/XfegI0zS unlimted for $10
07:39:40 PMGoodGuy You get a commission and they just buy as normal
07:39:53 PMeek-a-mouse Im gonna check thout out
07:40:04 PMRobbieF that's crazy G_dog1985_
07:40:25 PMG_Dog1985_ but they working on linux app still
07:40:25 PMDennis_Kelley love point linux also
07:40:27 PMGoodGuy I am running Mint 15 Cinnamon now
07:40:32 PMGoodGuy happy so far
07:41:37 PMDennis_Kelley my wife thinks so about being a geek
07:42:28 PMBekah There are many different types of geeks. ;)
07:43:10 PMinvinciblemutant the old house, there is where RobbieF mess around the house
07:43:13 PMinvinciblemutant :P
07:43:51 PMSovereign my stream died what is the mobile site
07:43:56 PMDennis_Kelley Bekah - the Robbie Geek is a good one!
07:44:01 PM_Jot_ http://m.cat5.tv
07:44:56 PMBekah how's it going _Jot_? :)
07:45:09 PM_Jot_ I'm doing okay, pretty tired, how are you?
07:45:12 PMSovereign hate it when that happens
07:45:30 PMBekah the same :)
07:45:50 PM_Jot_ I'd get tired too having to take care of RobbieF :)
07:46:05 PMRobbieF I _am_ pretty exhausting.
07:46:07 PMSr_Wences Here is what I am running: ancient dell running Peppermint3, 5 year old laptop running Linux Mint Cinnamon, Old Dell all-in-one running Mint Cinnamon and a wheezy old business laptop running Elementary OS.
07:47:16 PMGuest_9617 Flash really really sucks
07:47:24 PMRobbieF +1
07:47:34 PMRobbieF Note, our on-demand is going HTML5
07:47:36 PMMovieBuff You can use VLC with Desktop presenter.
07:47:38 PMRobbieF launced webm this week
07:47:51 PM_Jot_ it'll work very well :)
07:47:52 PMRobbieF +1 MovieBuff
07:48:21 PMGuest_9617 there it goes again
07:48:35 PMRobbieF Gasp - really? Have you tried the VLC feed yet?
07:48:51 PMRobbieF http://cat5.tv/rtsp
07:48:59 PMRobbieF open that with your favorite media player
07:50:15 PMRobbieF Point Linux - http://www.category5.tv/episodes/290.php
07:50:57 PMGuest_9617 Good night all
07:51:06 PMRobbieF night Guest_9617
07:52:22 PMBekah it's like reading another language.... haha
07:52:35 PM_Jot_ you're doing great Bekah
07:52:46 PMTNFrank Hey, I'm finally in. whoohoo
07:52:54 PMRobbieF Welcome, TNFrank.
07:52:58 PMG_Dog1985_ hi TNFrank
07:52:59 PMBekah Hi there TNFrank
07:53:00 PM_Jot_ TVs often have different resolutions depending on the input-source too
07:53:21 PMTNFrank @RobbieF, update, I did install Point Linux OS and I'm lovin' it. thanks for reading my question on air.
07:53:35 PMRobbieF Wonderful! Glad you love the distro!
07:53:54 PMTNFrank Also installed Compiz so I'm doing those cool beam up opens with windows and burn downs too.
07:53:58 PMRobbieF Good to find a Linux distro to be passionate about.
07:54:32 PMTNFrank It was actually what I was looking for when I went to Linux Mint 15 MATE but since Mint 15 is end of live in April '14 I needed to find something else to use.
07:54:49 PMRobbieF TNFrank did you learn about it from episode 290?
07:55:04 PMTNFrank Yep, 290, watched it a couple times
07:55:11 PMRobbieF Awesome.
07:55:18 PMRobbieF Thanks for watching :)
07:55:42 PMTNFrank You are more then welcome Robbie, Thanks for doing such a great show for us guys that love Linux.
07:55:51 PMRobbieF Cheers.
07:56:34 PMTNFrank I was watching live on Youtube but couldn't get into the chat room, not sure why. Oh well, I'm here now. LOL
07:56:48 PMRobbieF Glad you made it :)
07:57:00 PMRobbieF It's #Category5 on irc.freenode.net if you have an IRC client.
07:57:38 PMTNFrank I've been using the browser client and it normally works well, just for some reason tonight it didn't.
07:58:14 PMGoodGuy Use Xchat TNFrank
07:58:34 PMGoodGuy It can auto logon and join this room
07:58:42 PMRobbieF I'm using Pidgin
07:59:23 PMTNFrank I saw Pidgen in my Interweb tools but wasn't sure what it was for.
07:59:32 PMRobbieF Instant Messenger
07:59:36 PMRobbieF It connects to everything
07:59:38 PMTNFrank Remember, I used OS X for 11 years and got really Tech Lazy, LOL
07:59:42 PMRobbieF I use it for ICQ, IRC and Facebook
07:59:50 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF is old? is that what you said?
08:00:04 PMTNFrank Facebook chat would be another option too then.
08:00:16 PMRobbieF Yes, it saves me having to leave Facebook open
08:00:25 PMRobbieF = less distracting but still able to chat
08:00:28 PMTNFrank I"m just so glad I picked up that Roku a few months ago, I've gotten so many great Tech shows, it's awesome
08:00:41 PMRobbieF Watching #Cat5tv on Roku then?
08:00:59 PMGoodGuy Look at SneekLinux on Youtube.. He reviews a ton of Distros
08:01:03 PMTNFrank Not live but I do catch the on demand shows, normally the next day.
08:01:10 PMsanseriff night
08:01:14 PMTNFrank I went YouTube tonight.
08:01:15 PMRobbieF night sanseriff
08:01:18 PMBobK54 night
08:01:22 PM_Jot_ night sans
08:01:23 PMTNFrank C ya sanseriff
08:01:30 PMRobbieF \o Bobk54
08:01:32 PMBekah night :)
08:01:46 PMGoodGuy I beleive Sneekylinux did a review of EOS
08:01:47 PMDennis_Kelley Great Feature RobbieF and Bekah
08:01:48 PMAspidZent good show...
08:01:49 PMpaulr8 thanks, bye
08:02:01 PMBekah by paulr8 :)
08:02:02 PMAspidZent cheers...!!! DOTA2 training time!!!
08:02:05 PMBekah *bye
08:02:06 PMAspidZent :)
08:02:09 PMpaulr8 :)
08:02:11 PMrobgor great show robbie, bekah
08:02:12 PMAspidZent c ya ppl...
08:02:15 PMRobbieF thanks all!
08:02:16 PMTNFrank Why is everyone leaving, the party is just getting started, LOL
08:02:26 PM_Jot_ so are the files ready yet?
08:02:30 PMRobbieF ha I know eh TNFrank?
08:02:40 PMRobbieF alright; gonna initiate the transcoder!
08:02:43 PMnapa_polarbear bye
08:02:45 PMRobbieF exciting moment
08:02:52 PMRobbieF night napa_polarbear
08:03:00 PMTNFrank LOL, now you can relax and talk a bit RobbieF and everyone is leaving ya' high and dry,
08:03:08 PMRobbieF haha exactly
08:03:09 PMeek-a-mouse good show guys
08:03:12 PMRobbieF cheers
08:03:14 PMGoodGuy http://www.youtube.com/user/sneekylinux/videos
08:03:35 PMeek-a-mouse bye bye
08:03:55 PMTNFrank I'm just so glad that I've found a Distro I can settle in with for the long haul. I was Distro Hopping quite a bit there for a while.
08:04:05 PMGoodGuy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9VhcZGcbGE
08:04:14 PMGoodGuy He reviewed Beta 2
08:04:37 PMrevdjenk Hey what happened at the end? No sound
08:04:43 PMDennis_Kelley Hello GoodGuy how you been?
08:04:47 PMRobbieF I hear you there TNFrank - I'm at that exact place.
08:04:54 PMTNFrank Ubuntu 12.04 was ok, especially coming over from OS X, both being somewhat icon based but it just wasn't doing it for me once I got more use to Linux.
08:04:54 PMGoodGuy not too bad
08:05:01 PMGoodGuy How about you?
08:05:09 PMRobbieF refdjenk did YouTube cut us off?
08:05:11 PMnapa_polarbear napa 73 w6huy
08:05:12 PMRobbieF sorry!!
08:05:31 PMrevdjenk Yes to robbief
08:05:33 PMTNFrank I gave Elementary OS a try, Bodhi, AntiX, nothing felt right
08:05:57 PMGoodGuy Mint seems prety good
08:06:03 PMTNFrank Mint 15 MATE was good but since it was Ubuntu based it was more removed from the Debian roots then I wanted to be.
08:06:04 PMrevdjenk I was on my tablet, so can't run bid and chat
08:06:12 PMGoodGuy every distro has its quirks
08:06:16 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy - Not bad getting over a cold. had a power outage in Grand Blanc last week, missed the show. Been working at the Renaissance Festival in Holly. Very busy two months
08:06:21 PMrevdjenk Vid
08:06:26 PMTNFrank I guess LMDE would be more Debian then "regular" Mint.
08:06:38 PMGoodGuy Is the fair still going?
08:06:47 PMDennis_Kelley yes two more weekends
08:06:48 PMrevdjenk Tnfrank yes i a
08:06:51 PMGoodGuy Neat
08:06:56 PMrevdjenk Agree
08:07:01 PMGoodGuy I would like to see it
08:07:14 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy - are you able to make it out there>
08:07:18 PMrevdjenk I run mint with cinnamon
08:07:22 PMDennis_Kelley *?
08:07:29 PMTNFrank I've been trying to get as many folks using Linux as I can around my little town.
08:07:37 PMGoodGuy My wife can't walk much and I am limited driving
08:07:47 PMGoodGuy same here revdjenk
08:08:02 PMGoodGuy 64-bit Mint 15 Cinnamon
08:08:09 PMTNFrank I've been unemployed for almost 4 years and over the last couple months I've started buying laptops off of EBay and installing Linux on em' then selling them for a small profit.
08:08:17 PMTNFrank Trying to make ends meet.
08:08:22 PMrevdjenk Yay yep goodguy
08:08:42 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy - unfortunately the terrain is no very good for a lot of people.
08:08:53 PMrevdjenk That is using your head tnfrank
08:08:58 PMGoodGuy How are the users taking to a preinstalled Linux TNFrank ?
08:08:58 PMTNFrank Mostly Ubuntu 12.04 since it's pretty simple to use and most folks aren't too computer savy.
08:09:27 PMRobbieF revdjenk where did it cut us off?
08:09:28 PMTNFrank Some wonder what in heck it is and I'll explain to them that it's not as virus prone as Windows and they like that.
08:09:42 PMGoodGuy TRhe top two deadly cities in the USA
08:09:50 PMrevdjenk Right at the 8 pm
08:09:52 PMTNFrank Then when they see how it works(i.e. like a "normal" op system) then like it.
08:09:57 PMGoodGuy Flint is number one and Detroit two
08:10:33 PMrevdjenk Goodguy why to oakland u and lived in utica
08:10:44 PMTNFrank I lived in Taylor, MI from birth to age 11, we moved in '72 and it was pretty bad back then.
08:10:46 PMGoodGuy Setup a recovery type partition and you will be popular as heck
08:11:14 PMrevdjenk @went
08:11:14 PMGoodGuy Our son graduated from Oakland Univ
08:11:21 PMTNFrank We'd go boating on the Detroit River and Winsor was right across the river
08:11:22 PMrevdjenk Yay
08:11:39 PMrevdjenk Windsor was.
08:11:43 PMGoodGuy He bowled on a youth allstar type league in Flint
08:11:51 PMrevdjenk ? I night it still is there?
08:11:56 PMGoodGuy I didnt know the crime rate lol
08:11:58 PMrevdjenk Thought
08:12:01 PMTNFrank Yep, I could see the bridge going from Detroit to Windsor, it was pretty cool
08:12:08 PMRobbieF revdjenk the episode should be online within a VERY short amount of time based on the new transcoders if you need to catch the wrap up
08:12:17 PMGoodGuy Ambassador Bridge
08:12:55 PMrevdjenk Robbief you said your wife is an author... What is her genre?
08:12:56 PMTNFrank Also lived in Phoenix, AZ for 16 years, my wife was born and raised there. She wants to go back but at 52 I don't know if I really want to live in a big city again.
08:13:14 PMRobbieF Well all, I'm going to go relax with Bekah in front of the TV -- she worked so hard tonight, I owe her that :)
08:13:14 PMGoodGuy I believe it is the only international bridge owned by one private person
08:13:24 PMRobbieF have a wonderful week. 7th anniversary next week.
08:13:26 PM_Jot_ it was a nice show RobbieF
08:13:27 PMGoodGuy Night RobbieF - great show
08:13:32 PMRobbieF Thanks guys
08:13:34 PMTNFrank C ya' later Robbie, great show
08:13:36 PMrevdjenk Bye Robbie
08:13:49 PMDennis_Kelley cya RobbieF and Bekah
08:13:56 PMsprintcowboy thanks @RovvieF
08:13:58 PMBekah revdjenk - contemporary fiction :)
08:14:04 PMBekah good night everyone :)
08:14:13 PM_Jot_ http://www.bekahferguson.com/
08:14:13 PMTNFrank C ya' Bekah
08:14:14 PMrevdjenk Thanks Brian
08:14:20 PMRobbieF Keep an eye on the site and make note of what time it goes up :) I'm VERY excited about the new transcoder.
08:14:21 PMDennis_Kelley Bekah - Pleasure having you on the show!
08:14:22 PMrevdjenk Thanks bekah
08:14:28 PMRobbieF Thanks all.
08:14:30 PMBekah thanks Dennis_Kelley
08:14:40 PMRobbieF Night all.
08:14:49 PMrevdjenk My autocomplete is not!
08:15:00 PMGoodGuy Night all
08:15:09 PMTNFrank Anyone else running Point Linux??
08:15:19 PM_Jot_ I play games so I run windows :)
08:15:31 PM_Jot_ I have unraid on my storage server though
08:15:39 PMrevdjenk I've been with mint for give years now... I am happy
08:15:45 PMTNFrank With Valve porting Steam over to Linux you'll be able to play a lot more games on Linux in the very near future.
08:15:47 PMrevdjenk Five
08:16:00 PMsprintcowboy night all
08:16:02 PMTNFrank Mint 13??
08:16:13 PMTNFrank Since it has long term support.
08:16:19 PMrevdjenk Mint 15
08:16:21 PMTNFrank C ya'
08:16:52 PMTNFrank I've run Mint 15 for a little over a month and it was nice, Point Linux is just a touch nicer IMHO
08:17:12 PMTNFrank Guess it's pretty much apples to apples though since they both run the MATE desktop in my case.
08:17:17 PMrevdjenk 13 is still very good, but i noticed a big speed difference between 13 and 15
08:17:41 PMTNFrank Cinnamon was newer looking but other then that I didn't see much difference between it and MATE
08:18:14 PMTNFrank Mint 13 is tied to Ubuntu 12.04 so it'll have support until April 2017 from what I understand.
08:18:25 PMrevdjenk The new libreoffice is the winner for me... I loi the new sidebar
08:18:32 PMrevdjenk Like
08:18:55 PMTNFrank 4.0, yep, it's awesome. Why anyone would spend money on MicroSoft Office is beyond me.
08:19:10 PMrevdjenk Correct
08:19:49 PMTNFrank I just really love it that I got my Compiz installed and have some cool effects now when I open and close windows and when I switch desktops.
08:20:26 PMTNFrank Linux just so totally Rocks. Guess I'm not an Apple Head anymore, LOL
08:20:39 PMrevdjenk I have used libreoffice and its predecessors all the way back to 1999
08:20:47 PMTNFrank Besides, hardware for Apple/Mac is soooooo expensive.
08:21:17 PMTNFrank I have a buddy in Phoenix, AZ that's hardcore Windows 7. I've recently turned him onto Linux.
08:21:45 PMrevdjenk I one the burn effect. Had a computer guy jump when he first saw it happen on my computer!
08:21:57 PMTNFrank He was telling me about the great deal he got on MicroSoft Office, only $198, I told him I got basically the same thing with LibreOffice for free, he didn't know what to say. LOL
08:22:36 PMTNFrank LOL, I installed it on my wife's computer while she was at work. "Beam Up" for opening a window and "Burn Down" for closing them.
08:22:48 PMTNFrank She noticed but didn't say anything.
08:23:39 PMTNFrank I'd been watching Robbie do that cool stuff for a couple months now and didn't know how he did it. Oh the power of Linux, ya' got to love it.
08:24:04 PMrevdjenk I helped a woman install libreoffice on her win7 laptop. She had just purchased a new office pool ackage. She returned office the next day
08:24:42 PMTNFrank I sold a laptop to a guy last week, Dell 1521, nice laptop, Ubuntu 12.04, he's really liking it.
08:25:18 PMTNFrank He wants me to come over Sunday and help him install it on his desktop, the hard drive was wipped and has no os on it so I'm going to help him get it installed.
08:25:31 PMTNFrank I plan on showing him Point Linux too, might install that instead. LOL
08:25:55 PMTNFrank It's nice that you can make a Live USB with UNetbootin so folks can "try it before they buy it"
08:26:45 PMTNFrank I just need to set up his BIOS to make sure it'll boot to USB and Optical Drive before it boots to the hard drive.
08:27:03 PMrevdjenk My lenovo t400 is beginning to lose its screen... If i replace it, I'm getting a chromebook
08:27:37 PMTNFrank You can hit EBay and get some pretty decent laptops for $50-$100 bucks, cheaper then fixing one.
08:28:03 PMTNFrank I'm using an HP nc6400 that I paid $50 for, it works like a charm.
08:28:34 PMTNFrank Installed a 120GB hard drive that I had into it, 2GB of RAM, Core Duo 1.83GHz, plenty of power for Linux.
08:28:57 PMrevdjenk Three is a USB multi boot app, which will let you put more than one distro at a time on the same usb, w
08:29:18 PMrevdjenk Works nicely to show a variety
08:29:33 PMTNFrank Darren over at Hak5 did an episode on making a USB Multi-Boot.
08:29:47 PMrevdjenk Yay
08:30:01 PMTNFrank He had to do some changeing to Syslinux files to get it to work, kind of a pain.
08:30:18 PMrevdjenk Him mmm
08:30:22 PMTNFrank It'd be nice if there was an app that'd do all that stuff for you so you just have to point it to the Distros you want
08:30:51 PM_Jot_ there is one at least for one distro
08:31:03 PM_Jot_ as in, one at a time
08:31:06 PMTNFrank LOL, UNetbootin,
08:31:14 PMrevdjenk The one i was using was called multi boot ... Check it out
08:31:30 PMTNFrank I'd like to have Grub give me a choice to install 3 or 4 Dirtros on a single USB though.
08:31:53 PMTNFrank So I can Startpage "Multi Boot" and get more info then??
08:31:59 PMrevdjenk And it is just point and install easy to put them on the stick
08:32:12 PMTNFrank Now that sounds sweet.
08:32:17 PMTNFrank I'll have to check it out.
08:32:31 PMrevdjenk Should, bit it has been a few years
08:33:09 PMrevdjenk But
08:33:23 PMTNFrank I know I'm being hard on my USB sticks, everytime I want to Test Drive a Distro I use Disks to format it then install a new Distro with UNetbootin, too many cycles and it'll die for sure.
08:33:58 PMTNFrank Looks like my Test Driving days are pretty much over now though since I'm using Point Linux, I'm going to stick with it for a good long while
08:34:00 PMrevdjenk Heehee
08:35:19 PMTNFrank I just picked up an 8GB Patriot Rage XT, man that USB is fast for a 2.0. Read times were around 30MB/s, write was only 10MB/s but still, it's even faster then my SanDisk Crusier Glide.
08:35:36 PMrevdjenk I originally thought i would be changing yearly, but mint caught me at the right time, with the right combination of codec support and spps
08:35:59 PMTNFrank I thought the SanDisk was fast but Patriot Rage XT is a bit faster.
08:36:32 PMTNFrank On Distro Watch Mint has been #1 download for quite a while now.
08:36:36 PMrevdjenk Patriot has moved fast out of the gate ... Pun intended
08:36:47 PMTNFrank Guess there's a lot of former Ubuntu guys moving over to Mint.
08:37:00 PMrevdjenk HP mp fill
08:37:06 PMTNFrank I'd like to get a couple more of their USB's
08:37:06 PMrevdjenk Yes
08:37:56 PMTNFrank Really, for the average user who's just going to check e-mail or surf Facebook Unity isn't all that bad, it's stupid simple to use once you get what you want in the Launcher.
08:38:10 PMTNFrank My wife loves her Ubuntu 12.04
08:38:42 PMTNFrank I'm still trying to get her to use "sudo apt-get" , LOL. Not a Power User by any stretch,
08:39:15 PMrevdjenk I only ran Ubuntu for a few weeks... Back in 2005 ... Then kubuntu, elive, pclinuxos, then mint
08:39:17 PMTNFrank Terminal is one of the things I really love about Linux, makes it really easy to install, uninstall, upgrade, update, ect.
08:39:55 PMTNFrank PCLinuxOS is suppose to be pretty decent, in fact, IIRC I did take it for a little Test Drive. Forget why I didn't stick with it.
08:41:29 PMrevdjenk Pclinuxos is like Debian, solid, but behind in the fresh cutting edge programs. I need the best wine support for the couple ms programs i use
08:42:08 PMTNFrank I've not had any need to use WINE since I have nothing Windows to run.
08:42:36 PMTNFrank My brother has a Windows program that he uses for work but it doesn't run well under WINE or he'd probably be total Linux.
08:43:03 PMrevdjenk I have one favorite Bible program which i really haven't found a decent replacement
08:43:44 PMTNFrank I downloaded a Bible program for my wife, started with an X, can't remember the name but I'd really like something simpler and with more translations if I can find one.
08:43:57 PMTNFrank Synaptic doesn't have much in the way of Bibles
08:44:22 PMrevdjenk Well, now you can follow Robbie's virtualization and keep his windows secluded behind the virtual door
08:44:22 PMTNFrank Might e-mail Dr. Bill Baily, he'd probably know a good one to use.
08:45:25 PMTNFrank Any of you guys Rockin' the Roku??
08:46:26 PMrevdjenk The word is dead simple to use with some, but i like e-sword, but needs great wine support and multiple steps to get it to work correctly
08:47:06 PMrevdjenk Those are both windows bible programs
08:47:07 PMTNFrank IIRC I tried E-Sword but didn't get all of it downloaded from Synaptic.
08:47:31 PMrevdjenk E-sword is not in synaptic
08:47:51 PMrevdjenk E-sword.net
08:48:17 PMTNFrank Let me get into Synaptic and see if I can find the name of the one I did download
08:48:58 PMTNFrank Xiphos
08:49:15 PMTNFrank There is a "Sword" but probably not the same one as you have.
08:49:47 PMrevdjenk There is a setup script in the Ubuntu forums which sometimes works easily to install it. The script writer's name is Dan 'something'
08:50:03 PMTNFrank Yep, they're pretty sparce on Bibles
08:50:15 PMrevdjenk Correct... The sword in synaptic is not e-sword
08:50:23 PMTNFrank I'll need to do more research.
08:51:01 PMTNFrank I'd like something that simply opens a window and then you can type in Book then go to chaper or verse and have a few different Translations. Something simple.
08:51:43 PMrevdjenk Like i said, the word is easy to install with no problems, and has many free transitions and also commercial ones available.
08:52:16 PMTNFrank So it's called "The Word"? I'll have to look it up, sounds like what I'm looking for.
08:52:31 PMrevdjenk I think that should be theword to find it.
08:52:52 PMTNFrank ok, so in Terminal "sudo apt-get install theword"
08:54:07 PMTNFrank Oh well, I'm going to go grab a bit to eat and see what's on the TV. Talk to ya'll later. Good Night from Tennessee, USA.
08:54:19 PMrevdjenk I just got used to e-sword. Theword is newer looking, modern . i think e-swords search is faster... Bit that is about is only claim.
08:54:56 PMrevdjenk But that is about it's only claim
08:55:17 PMrevdjenk Whoops talking to myself
08:55:37 PMrevdjenk G'night _jot_

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