Chat Logs for Episode 318 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 205 Posts:Mastermindzh
With 135 Posts:TNFrank
With 78 Posts:Dave-Maydew
With 59 Posts:_Jot_
With 57 Posts:ShineShadow


Chat Logs:

06:58:06 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, how are Unetbootin and clamAV related :P?
06:58:07 PMDave-Maydew Where are you?
06:58:23 PMMastermindzh Behind you !
06:58:24 PMchaslinux Did you try usb-creator-gtk ? Sometimes it works where unetbootin doesn't?
06:58:24 PMTNFrank Mastermindzh there's a little bit left, I can put it in a FedX international box and ship it to ya.
06:58:47 PMMastermindzh That won't be neccessary TNFrank, just shove the plate under your bed :)
06:58:49 PMrobgor tnfrank what distro you using?
06:58:59 PMTNFrank Yep, didn't care for Manjaro, put Debian 7 back on the ol' #3.
06:59:11 PM_Jot_ RobbieF says: We'll start shortly
06:59:11 PMTNFrank On my #1 and #2 I'm using Point Linux
06:59:13 PMMastermindzh hey paulr8
06:59:15 PMpaulr8 hello
06:59:18 PMShineShadow CT USA. The Main office ARRL is about a half hour away
06:59:21 PMDave-Maydew silvershadow you should do it
06:59:39 PMTNFrank They're my "real" laptops, #3 is just for playing around so I put different Distros on it quite a bit.
06:59:39 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, are you new to linux btw?
06:59:43 PMDave-Maydew I've just set my HF/VHF/UHF back up
06:59:45 PMMastermindzh since your distro hopping so much
06:59:48 PMrobgor have you tried synaptic to install clamtk
06:59:49 PMDave-Maydew I'm in the UK
06:59:55 PMTNFrank Been using Linux for about 6 months now I guess.
06:59:56 PMShineShadow It should be easier now that you don't have to learn morse code for novice anymore
07:00:03 PMTNFrank Hey, we have video feed.
07:00:10 PMDave-Maydew I had to take the morse back in 2000
07:00:19 PMMastermindzh I have a fun distro for you to try
07:00:23 PMDave-Maydew but I'm all for making it easier
07:00:24 PMMastermindzh I suggest virtualbox though
07:00:26 PMMastermindzh cylon linux :)
07:00:26 PM_Jot_ Eric is at work so we're going to wait for him, and then start
07:00:26 PMDave-Maydew but not too easy lol
07:00:28 PMTNFrank RobbieF Evening Pard, how's it going?
07:00:33 PMShineShadow I learned it in the 90's but never took the test
07:00:45 PMRobbieF doing great TNFrank thanks - you?
07:00:57 PMShineShadow I should rethink taking the exam
07:01:02 PMTNFrank RobbieF doing great Robbie
07:01:06 PMDave-Maydew Erik has been caught speeding??
07:01:17 PMMastermindzh hey agamotto
07:01:23 PMDave-Maydew or wearing the a canary yellow shirt again??
07:01:26 PM_Jot_ While we're waiting, ths is an excellent time to visit and pledge at http://cat5.tv/studio
07:01:29 PMDave-Maydew Hey Agamotto
07:01:33 PMShineShadow Hey @RobbieF
07:01:36 PMDave-Maydew nice to see you again
07:01:45 PMTNFrank Got a Google Plus account over the weekend. LOL
07:01:47 PMRobbieF Heya!
07:01:54 PMMastermindzh Nice TNFrank :)
07:01:57 PMchaslinux Looks like it's just 1 fill light in the current studio?
07:02:01 PMTNFrank Finally broke down and did it even though I don't use Google for my search engine.
07:02:10 PMDave-Maydew It's nice to actually be able to watch the show live once again!!
07:02:12 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, what do you use ? :P
07:02:16 PMTNFrank At least not directly, I use Startpage which uses Google
07:02:20 PMMastermindzh non of them are safe anyways
07:02:21 PMMastermindzh :p
07:02:24 PMMastermindzh ah
07:02:35 PMMastermindzh I just use google
07:02:36 PMMastermindzh idc :D
07:02:41 PMTNFrank They protect my IP so I don't get data mined so much, guess that's out the door now though, LOL
07:02:45 PMShineShadow Good call on not using Google for your search engine TNFrank
07:03:08 PMShineShadow Kida sucks whe Scroogle sarch losed
07:03:18 PMTNFrank Plus I have Self Destructing Cookies and NoScript installed in my Firefox browser
07:03:21 PMDave-Maydew Dave-Maydew *Chanting* ERIK ERIK
07:03:23 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:03:24 PM_Jot_ we're fine RobbieF
07:03:36 PMMastermindzh As long as you don't install adblock we'll all stay friends :D
07:03:40 PM_Jot_ thanks for the water RobbieF, where is it, I can't find it?
07:03:51 PMTNFrank Nope, no adblock
07:03:57 PMDave-Maydew phew
07:03:59 PMTNFrank There he is.
07:04:12 PMShineShadow Me too TNFrank. Wouldnt go anywhere without them. Adblock works good too
07:04:12 PMMastermindzh Good to see you Eric :)
07:04:23 PMagamotto I use Dogpile myself... I like the idea of my searches helping animal shelters
07:04:26 PMMastermindzh SHineShadow, Adblock is the devil himself :P
07:04:30 PMpaulr8 yay eric made it :)
07:04:38 PMDave-Maydew Hey EricKidd
07:04:41 PM_Jot_ we can hear Eric :)
07:04:43 PMDave-Maydew nice to see you
07:04:50 PMShineShadow How come Mastermindzh
07:05:27 PMMastermindzh Because it installs with every add blocked by default, which is bad for small community driven projects like category5tv
07:05:28 PMDave-Maydew Hey dav26
07:05:36 PMTNFrank Had to move my #2 down from behind my #1 laptop.
07:05:40 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, visit http://cat5.tv/studio to contribute as well
07:05:47 PMMastermindzh also, there are people making a living with adds on youtube video's.
07:06:01 PMagamotto HTTPS Everywhere, DoNotTrackMe, and Google Translates are some of my favorite add-ons
07:06:02 PMMastermindzh If you WANT free content, you can sit through the adds imo
07:06:08 PMTNFrank LOL, trying to get things set up so I can watch the show and still be in the chat room
07:06:23 PMMastermindzh Face the truth TNFrank, you can't do both at the same time :)
07:06:29 PMDave-Maydew I'm using 2 monitors
07:06:31 PMMastermindzh You'll have to rewatch tomorrow :p
07:06:35 PMDave-Maydew stream on one
07:06:45 PMTNFrank LOL, I have my #2 back along side #1 where it originally was.
07:06:46 PMDave-Maydew X-Chat on the other
07:06:46 PMagamotto That, or shrink the window
07:06:46 PMShineShadow I ca understand that...but my browsing needs come first :)
07:06:54 PMMastermindzh I got stream on one, work + chat on center, various tools + webbrowser on third :)
07:07:09 PMDave-Maydew Now that's just showing off lol
07:07:10 PM_Jot_ about 1 minute to show people :)
07:07:19 PMTNFrank I'm using Pidgin for chat and Youtube for video
07:07:30 PMDave-Maydew I've got the laptop just checking emails
07:07:31 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:07:33 PMTNFrank Bunny, my cat is wanting attention.
07:07:38 PMMastermindzh Well ShineShadow, it's still bad :) and we hate you about |_| << that much for it :D
07:07:47 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, you sound fine so far
07:07:51 PMDave-Maydew have you fed the cat TNFrank??
07:07:52 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:08:09 PMShineShadow lol
07:08:16 PM_Jot_ It'll be another minute folks :)
07:08:20 PMTNFrank Yep, he eats WAY too much. Always steals food from Baby Girl when I feed her.
07:08:30 PMDave-Maydew oh boy
07:08:37 PMTNFrank She's going to be 14, he's about 9 I guess
07:08:58 PMEricKidd We'll be another minute (or so), Robbie went to the store for ice cream
07:09:07 PMTNFrank Howdy Eric
07:09:10 PMMastermindzh Tell him I want chocolate EricKidd
07:09:15 PM_Jot_ ice cream is important! Eric Kidd just can't present without it
07:09:25 PMEricKidd Mmm..........chocolate :)
07:09:25 PMkeckeckec What about the cookies?
07:09:30 PMShineShadow Hey Eric...
07:09:37 PMDave-Maydew Steve[cug] is getting lucky lol
07:09:41 PMTNFrank Ahh, the fun of doin' a Live Show. :-D
07:09:46 PMSteve[cug] with my code :-p
07:09:47 PMMastermindzh Any good ice cream parlor has cookies =-O
07:09:48 PMrobgor EricKidd he has gone to get the vegemite for you to try mate
07:09:50 PMDave-Maydew Daft Punk satire
07:09:58 PMEricKidd Don't tell Rachel we have treats!
07:10:07 PMrobgor lol
07:10:12 PMMastermindzh RobbieF is just janking our tails, he's going to try and see how long he can delay it by saying it's going to be a minute and a half still :p
07:10:14 PMSteve[cug] Dave-Maydew: sooooooo close to getting all the code out :-p
07:10:17 PMTNFrank I'm still trying to figure out Google Plus. I know if I go into Google Voice and call it's my cell to whatever phone I call
07:10:19 PMEricKidd Mmm...a vegemite sandwich?
07:10:22 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF is spoiling you EricKidd
07:10:25 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:10:26 PMkeckeckec She might be listening, EricKidd
07:10:31 PMTNFrank But if I go through Hangouts it's PC to PC or PC to phone
07:10:36 PM_Jot_ I heard RobbieF even has yummy australian food
07:10:42 PMTNFrank At least that's what I think it is anyway.
07:10:43 PMMastermindzh Thats right TNFrank :)
07:10:59 PMMastermindzh hangouts is also used for group calls
07:11:09 PMTNFrank I got my buddy John to sign up and I picked up a cheap webcam so we can video chat
07:11:14 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, relax, breathe in, breathe out, etc, but not too loud :)
07:11:27 PMMastermindzh You told us about that yeah :)
07:11:30 PMTNFrank I guess Google Plus is kind of like Facebook for Google, LOL
07:11:48 PMMastermindzh Google plus is a confusing mess IMHO :D
07:11:51 PMShineShadow If it gets too hard...just breath out only :)
07:11:57 PMDave-Maydew Hangouts is great
07:12:11 PMTNFrank When I said the show should be longer last week I didn't mean because you start it later this week. LOL;-)
07:12:13 PMMastermindzh Hangouts is awesome indeed Dave-Maydew :D
07:12:21 PMMastermindzh haha TNFrank
07:12:21 PMShineShadow lol
07:12:23 PM_Jot_ TNFrank, you should have been more specific!
07:12:31 PMchaslinux Mastermindzh, great on a tablet, less so in a normal browser (G+ that is).
07:12:31 PMMastermindzh there we go :D
07:12:40 PMTNFrank _jot_ or Atlantic LOL
07:12:49 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, I hardly use my tablet :P, it's for testing purposes only :D
07:12:51 PMShineShadow ok:)
07:12:53 PMTNFrank Doing great Eric
07:13:28 PMchaslinux Mastermindzh, same here, pretty much a time waster (a few games) and possibly for some light dev.
07:13:34 PMTNFrank LOL, good ol' MicroSuck.
07:13:36 PM_Jot_ entropy is generally bad right? I mean heat-death of the unierse and all that?
07:13:49 PMDave-Maydew Yup I was around my friends the other day and noticed the latest update had broke 8.1 lol
07:13:51 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, I don't play games on it :) it's REALLY just for dev purposes :)
07:14:05 PMDennis_Kelley Hello All!
07:14:14 PMDave-Maydew Hey Dennis
07:14:14 PMgpop7 hello everybody.
07:14:19 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, I think that guy lives in your bahtroom-mirror
07:14:21 PMMastermindzh jey gpop7
07:14:21 PMShineShadow Hey Dennis_Kelly
07:14:32 PMDave-Maydew Hey gpop7
07:14:37 PMDennis_Kelley a bit late but I made it!
07:14:52 PM_Jot_ hey Dennis_Kelley, you made it!
07:14:52 PMShineShadow Hi gpop7
07:14:55 PMRobbieF We're a bit late too, so it's all good :)
07:14:56 PMMastermindzh Dennis_Kelley, don't worry. it just started :D
07:14:59 PMchaslinux Dennis_Kelley, you didn't miss anything... lol
07:15:03 PMTNFrank Can you Google Hangout world wide or is it like calling, just the U.S. and Canada for free??
07:15:10 PMMastermindzh worlwide TNFrank
07:15:17 PMagamotto I just can't find a use for a phablet/tablet yet.
07:15:31 PM_Jot_ TNFrank, it is internet, so that is free
07:15:35 PMpopey evening all!
07:15:39 PMDave-Maydew I use Google Hangouts here in the UK
07:15:40 PMTNFrank Cool, that means I could video chat with some of ya'll, if you can stand my ugly mug. :P
07:15:45 PMDave-Maydew and goooood evening Popey!!
07:15:46 PMgpop7 Hello mastermindzh, dave-maydew, shineshadow
07:15:47 PMShineShadow Evening @popey
07:15:50 PMMastermindzh Well , you need them for web & android / ios development
07:15:51 PMDave-Maydew Hope all is well Alan??
07:16:15 PMMastermindzh Although, I'm thinking of dropping ios programming
07:16:25 PMMastermindzh I hate it SO much EVERY single time :)
07:16:27 PMMastermindzh idk
07:16:29 PM_Jot_ oh look, http://cat5.tv/studio again :) Make sure to use it
07:16:30 PMMastermindzh just don't like it
07:16:56 PMMastermindzh I'm great EricKidd :)
07:16:59 PMgpop7 Hello robbief and erickidd and jot
07:17:00 PMMastermindzh Thanks for asking :p
07:17:03 PMTNFrank Capt. Kidd
07:17:33 PMDave-Maydew EricKidd still has Blackberry??
07:18:00 PMTNFrank LOL, I still have a Samsung Flip Phone, LOL
07:18:00 PMShineShadow Looks that way...he's a trooper
07:18:08 PMDave-Maydew hahaha
07:18:17 PMDave-Maydew I heard that site was found illegal?
07:18:22 PMShineShadow I keep all my old phines
07:18:25 PMShineShadow phnes
07:18:25 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, it isn't an old game, it is still sol dtoday
07:18:31 PMgpop7 what happen they froze on my end
07:18:40 PMagamotto Dave_Maydew: What site?
07:18:47 PMTNFrank I just can't bring myself to get a new smart phone because I don't want to get locked into my Verzon account again
07:18:48 PMDave-Maydew the Mario one
07:18:49 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:18:50 PMShineShadow phones...3s a charm
07:18:52 PMMastermindzh fullscreenmario.com :)
07:18:54 PMagamotto Ahh
07:19:02 PMMastermindzh nintendo is being an idiot again
07:19:05 PMgpop7 they are back
07:19:05 PMagamotto I am still having too much fun with Skyrim
07:19:30 PMMastermindzh agamotto, please tell me you mean the PC version of Skyrim :D
07:19:36 PMMastermindzh the mods are AMAZING :D
07:19:43 PMagamotto Mastermindzh: Yah, naturalich
07:19:53 PMMastermindzh Das ist spas!
07:19:53 PMDave-Maydew I'm still enjoying HL2 and Bards Tale
07:19:53 PMMastermindzh :D
07:19:55 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:20:01 PMMastermindzh Both great games :)
07:20:27 PMagamotto 'A golem consisting of rice pudding???'
07:20:40 PMMastermindzh yes please :)
07:20:42 PMTNFrank I want to send in some funds to help out but we're still just too broke.
07:20:57 PMTNFrank Unemployment sucks.:'(
07:21:17 PMagamotto I will be donating quite soon. My next check will have my raise in it.
07:21:20 PMMastermindzh YOu can now donate just $2 dollars as well :)
07:21:37 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, does being on cable mean I can ask you stuff about why my TV doesn't work if it isn't plugged in and such?
07:21:37 PMagamotto Come November, I am shifting stores and departments for a substantial raise.
07:21:39 PMTNFrank And that's $2 Canadian,LOL
07:21:56 PMTNFrank I want to do the $25 so I can get a sticker for my laptop
07:22:22 PMMastermindzh I did $20, didn't want to end up paying another $50 import tax :p
07:22:36 PMTNFrank Mastermindzh, LOL, that sucks
07:22:36 PMagamotto import tax?
07:22:42 PMShineShadow lol
07:22:50 PMTNFrank I watch the show on blip.tv on my Roku
07:23:01 PMMastermindzh yep, anything over 20 bucks worth I have to pay 17 bucks + 20%
07:23:03 PMchaslinux Would be nice to have an XBMC channel ;-)
07:23:10 PMTNFrank Can't wait for Category5 to have an actual Roku channel
07:23:17 PMagamotto hrm
07:23:25 PMchaslinux Barely RobbieF
07:23:30 PMShineShadow yes to roku cat5 channel
07:23:41 PMagamotto robgor: How are things in your neck of AUS? Not too sooty, I hope?
07:23:56 PMMastermindzh chaslinux there is a great youtube app that will let you watch category5 on xbmc :)
07:24:24 PMrobgor no Iam in melbourne the fires are in sydney NSW which is around 900k away
07:24:46 PMMastermindzh RobbieF / ErricKid, is paypal supported now ?
07:24:58 PMMastermindzh And can a person donate twice using the same account?
07:25:04 PMShineShadow Wonder if sop stream would be useful for cat5
07:25:16 PMchaslinux I do have the youtube app installed... or at least a youtube app...
07:25:16 PMagamotto That's good, I wasn't sure how widespread they were outside of NSW... some reporters tend to make it sound as if the eastern half of the country is aflame.
07:25:18 PMTNFrank LOL, reminds me of the Cheech and Chong movie where Chong grabs the Judge's "water" and it's Vodka. LOL
07:25:30 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, it's called youtube live ! I think
07:25:37 PMchaslinux ty Mastermindzh
07:25:43 PMTNFrank Frog Gigs
07:25:50 PMkeckeckec EricKidd: Great that you're getting the work!
07:25:53 PMMastermindzh Eric is actually an amazing singer TNFrank :)
07:26:21 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, 1234 as a password doesn't work either!
07:26:28 PMTNFrank RobbieF was into music as well from what I understand
07:26:29 PMDave-Maydew I play some classics on my radio show lol
07:26:35 PMMastermindzh Yeah TNFrank, opera mostly
07:26:37 PMTNFrank I've played guitar for most of my life
07:26:41 PMMastermindzh or well
07:26:42 PMMastermindzh clasic
07:26:42 PMMastermindzh :P
07:26:45 PMagamotto Ok, as I am still a few episodes behind, anyone care to explain our delay this evening? Experimental kit?
07:26:46 PMTNFrank and bass for quite a while
07:26:54 PMchaslinux I have a Commodore 64 on my shelf at work and some of the volunteers I have don't know what it is...
07:27:01 PMShineShadow Yeah but 'passw0rd' is definately useful
07:27:04 PMMastermindzh haha :)
07:27:26 PMMastermindzh TNfrank: http://www.robbieferguson.net/content/view/82/71/
07:27:27 PMchaslinux It came out like 10 years before some of them were born.
07:27:30 PMMastermindzh Robbie's music :)
07:27:32 PMagamotto chaslinux: Call it your secure bitcoin generator
07:27:35 PMTNFrank Pa$$w0rd
07:27:39 PMMastermindzh chaslinux I have a commodore as well :)
07:27:51 PMDave-Maydew I still use a BBC
07:27:55 PMShineShadow lol
07:28:06 PMMastermindzh I was going to mod it
07:28:10 PMMastermindzh but I fell in love with it again :)
07:28:13 PMTNFrank One of the laws of thermodynamics.
07:28:16 PMMastermindzh so it's still a commodore :P
07:28:39 PMkeckeckec With the 1541 floppy drive?
07:28:54 PMkeckeckec With holes in the bottom to keep adjusting the alignment?
07:28:58 PMMastermindzh yep keckeckec :)
07:29:01 PMagamotto I used to make quite a bit of money re-aligning those drives
07:29:20 PMkeckeckec I cut holes in mine and left tthe screws loose.
07:29:21 PMchaslinux Mastermindzh, we've had a few dropped off over the years including several boxes of computes magazine... I ended up giving them away to people who wanted them, really made their day ;-)
07:29:49 PMMastermindzh I went out to buy one in "near workign state"
07:30:00 PMMastermindzh Thinking I'd cut it open and put an itx build in it
07:30:19 PMMastermindzh but once I opened it up and fixed it
07:30:19 PMMastermindzh I played like 3 days straight :p
07:30:19 PMagamotto I found that clear nail varnish made a great fixative for the screws
07:30:40 PMShineShadow Nail polish does work great for that
07:30:44 PMchaslinux The one I have now is in bad shape... I'm going to remove the board and clean up the plastic before I put it back together again.
07:30:46 PMTNFrank Use a D and D 20 side die.LOL
07:31:08 PMTNFrank Sorry, my "Geek" is showing.
07:31:17 PMSr_Wences Hey you all. Just getting logged in. Hard day at work, nice to relax with you all.
07:31:34 PMMastermindzh hey Sr_wences
07:31:35 PMShineShadow Hey Sr_Wences
07:31:35 PMTNFrank Howdy Sr_Wences
07:31:36 PMagamotto Hola, senor
07:31:48 PMSr_Wences Hola amigos!
07:31:56 PMagamotto Hmmm, my tlide seems to have disappeared again
07:32:54 PM_Jot_ it's over there *points*
07:33:31 PMMastermindzh We have RobbieF's password !
07:33:36 PMagamotto Hmmm, it seems to have migrated from my keyboard along with the pound, and the umlaut. I wonder what changed my keyboard layout...
07:33:58 PMMastermindzh hit ctrl + shift agamotto
07:34:00 PMTNFrank A Pass Phrase is a better way to do it.
07:34:13 PMMastermindzh But pass phrases aren't allowed by the majority of website
07:34:18 PMagamotto hmmm
07:34:25 PMMastermindzh they all have this DUMB limit 6-20 characters
07:34:39 PMTNFrank You'd have to make it a short pass phrase
07:34:52 PMchaslinux Say you used a 105 key keyboard (case matters too right)...
07:34:53 PMMastermindzh RobbieF's math is off :)
07:35:34 PMkeckeckec I don't think upper+lower is 26*26
07:35:34 PMTNFrank Many web forums have a 5 try and you're locked out for 15 rule
07:35:36 PMMastermindzh RobbieF's example is rather bad actually, because in his case you'd KNOW what kind of character comes up next
07:35:55 PMMastermindzh and indeed upper + lower would be more
07:36:08 PMMastermindzh it's more like 100 * 100 * 100
07:36:12 PMchaslinux Mind you the point is there.... 2.5 billion...
07:36:54 PMMastermindzh hey goodguy
07:37:01 PMDennis_Kelley Hello GoodGuy
07:37:05 PMShineShadow Hi GoodGuy
07:37:11 PMGoodGuy Hi Dennis_Kelley
07:37:15 PMSteve[cug] ok, long but simple passwords are always better than short complex ones
07:37:17 PMGoodGuy Hi ShineShadow
07:37:23 PMTNFrank I'd not use anything from a dictionary though,
07:37:28 PMSteve[cug] take from the netsec guy ;)
07:37:31 PMMastermindzh yep steve[cug], thats pretty much it :P
07:37:49 PMSteve[cug] hence why we say "pass phrase"
07:37:57 PMagamotto So, random words from different languages?
07:38:12 PMSteve[cug] agamotto: honestly it really doesnt matter
07:38:23 PMMastermindzh agamotto, in case of brute force the length is key basically
07:38:33 PMSteve[cug] I try to keep my password over 20 characters, which should eliminate most brute forcers
07:38:38 PMShineShadow I think using words of any kind is just to help you recall the passphrase
07:38:45 PMMastermindzh but most websites don't allow that steve
07:38:57 PMGoodGuy How does a brute force attach realize it found the correct result?
07:39:04 PMGoodGuy attack
07:39:06 PMMastermindzh it tries every result
07:39:09 PMTNFrank You can use a long pass phrase and just use the first letter of each word for the actual pass word.
07:39:14 PMMastermindzh and in case of a website it will look for changes
07:39:16 PMSteve[cug] I mean, you cant stop things like bad hashes and brute forcing with FPGAs, but those are really pricey and still pretty boutique
07:39:26 PMGoodGuy I know.. but how does it know it found it?
07:39:37 PMMastermindzh if you for example get an error message on false login, a brute force attack will stop AFTER the error message has gone away (when logged in)
07:39:41 PMSteve[cug] GoodGuy: comparing against hashes
07:39:42 PMGoodGuy That takes code to realize it
07:40:01 PMMastermindzh Either you have the hasehes like steve says
07:40:03 PMGoodGuy Each compare takes time
07:40:15 PMSteve[cug] for example: Windows passes passwords using NTLM (or if your really unlucky) LanMan
07:40:15 PMMastermindzh or you need a visual clue
07:40:43 PMSteve[cug] basically for brute forcing, your taking the hashes and comparing offline
07:40:46 PMagamotto Why can't we just have eyeball scanners? snicker
07:41:02 PMMastermindzh Because a retina scan is unreliable ? :p
07:41:09 PMSteve[cug] I just sat back down though, is he gonna use john the ripper?
07:41:11 PMagamotto Really?
07:41:28 PMGoodGuy Why not two passwords.. one allows you to get to the 2nd.. fail the second three times and it resets the first to a ring of choices you define
07:41:28 PMalpeck odds are 26^19 not 18
07:41:33 PMSteve[cug] agamotto: I will never use biometrics for a auth mechanism
07:42:01 PMSteve[cug] biometrics are basically a password that you can never change and can be [relatively] easy to subvert
07:42:07 PMShineShadow I'd rather have my password bruteforced with rainbow tables then the chance of my eye being torn out :p
07:42:08 PMchaslinux I'm running john on a password file now to see if it will break before the show ends.
07:42:19 PMGoodGuy use special characters with the ALT modifier
07:42:32 PMSteve[cug] chaslinux: did you compile john yourself?
07:42:34 PMGoodGuy the special character generator
07:42:41 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, you are a bit naughty today? :P
07:42:43 PMchaslinux Steve[cug], no..
07:42:50 PMSteve[cug] compile it yourself.
07:42:53 PMagamotto A retina scan on a detached eye wouldn't work... no bloodflow, yes?
07:42:56 PMTNFrank =-O
07:43:04 PMMastermindzh it would agamotto
07:43:07 PMSteve[cug] the speed difference is significant when you can tailor the code to your gear
07:43:07 PMShineShadow IDK
07:43:08 PMchaslinux Mastermindzh, no I consider it a bad password... so I want to see just how bad.
07:43:21 PMagamotto wow, did not know that
07:43:28 PMMastermindzh but not for long though
07:43:29 PMSteve[cug] also, good password lists are really key for john
07:43:35 PMTNFrank A REALLY LONG TIME, lol
07:43:35 PMGoodGuy 1440 minutes in a day
07:43:37 PMchaslinux Mind you this is only a dual core with 2GB RAM and no special video card.
07:43:46 PMSteve[cug] uhm….your forgetting about FPGAs
07:43:58 PMMastermindzh Steve[cug], an english dictionary can often yield the best results :p
07:44:15 PMSteve[cug] Mastermindzh: you might be surprised some of the lists Ive seen
07:44:25 PMGoodGuy Not a quantum computer like the NSA has
07:44:37 PMMastermindzh I got my hands on a 100 or so paypal passwords last week
07:44:41 PMTNFrank How long did it take the computer to find the ultimate question in Hitch Hiker's Guide
07:44:45 PMMastermindzh STUPID passwords....
07:44:56 PMSteve[cug] uhm…. http://www.passwordunlocker.com/blog/fpga-based-unix-crypt-hardware-password-cracker.html
07:45:01 PMSteve[cug] ;)
07:45:11 PMGoodGuy I thought they have the first quantum computer from Boeing iirc
07:45:17 PMShineShadow RobbieF should factor in the law that states that cpus double in speed every two years...forgot the laws name...mores law??
07:45:27 PMMastermindzh seven and a half million years TNFrank
07:45:27 PMGoodGuy Moores Law
07:45:30 PMTNFrank More's Law
07:45:39 PMTNFrank Ok, spelling isn't my strong suite. LOL
07:45:50 PMShineShadow lol
07:46:00 PMTNFrank Every 18 months computer stuff doubles
07:46:01 PMDave-Maydew The local Airport is busy tonight here
07:46:08 PMGoodGuy It might not continue because circuits are already super thin
07:46:10 PMchaslinux Steve[cug], is it that much faster compiled?
07:46:19 PMGoodGuy Down to 12 nm I think
07:46:25 PMSteve[cug] chaslinux: yes, because you can tune it to what your CPU can do
07:46:26 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, yes :)
07:46:57 PMGoodGuy Cluster computers can attack the problem in pieces
07:47:09 PMSteve[cug] also: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F11802839_41#page-1
07:47:19 PMTNFrank China just built a HUGE cluster computer and it runs LINUX.
07:47:44 PMGoodGuy Most of the top 20 computers run Linux
07:47:44 PMSteve[cug] :-p
07:47:51 PMShineShadow That 18 month value should be added to the equation to get a true value for length of time to bruteforce passphrase
07:48:00 PMTNFrank New U.S. Battle Ship runs Linux.
07:48:17 PMGoodGuy They build clusters using a ton of high-end GPU's
07:48:19 PMchaslinux It's not a huge password less than 10 characters, but lots of weird characters, still not cracked
07:48:28 PM_Jot_ okay RobbieF, my password is nerdbaldweirdshow
07:48:39 PMShineShadow lol
07:48:44 PMTNFrank _jot_, LOL
07:48:46 PMGoodGuy I thought there was no battleships anymore.. Cruiser maybe?
07:49:05 PMTNFrank Ahh, come on now, I can't remember but two or three pass words
07:49:51 PMShineShadow I use keypass to remember
07:49:59 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, if you're going to hack a windows machine try using "Brutus" :P
07:50:24 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, bad news, the guy dies in the end, just like everybody else alive
07:50:28 PMTNFrank Someday I'm going to download something like Keypass and use it to set up my pass words
07:50:54 PMShineShadow yeah...there's a few simmilar products like keypass
07:51:06 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, it's a pain as well though
07:51:12 PMSteve[cug] BTW: this is all bullshit
07:51:28 PMMastermindzh ?
07:51:30 PMMastermindzh the news?
07:51:32 PMTNFrank Mastermindzh yep, and I'm not any place where I need to lock stuff down like that.
07:51:34 PMShineShadow ??
07:51:34 PMSteve[cug] yeah
07:51:38 PMShineShadow oh
07:51:44 PMSteve[cug] IsoHunt and the MPAA
07:51:47 PMShineShadow true
07:51:57 PMMastermindzh idk haven't followed the matter, I don't use IsoHunt
07:52:09 PMalpeck sounds like the matrix coming true
07:52:23 PMGoodGuy That is a Police state... he isnt hosting anything.. the people supplying the bad files are
07:52:26 PMTNFrank What do you mean "coming true", we're already in the Matrix.
07:52:30 PMShineShadow yikes
07:53:09 PMalpeck i think i will take the red pill
07:53:15 PMTNFrank Think about the computer "power" that send guys to the moon.
07:53:22 PMSr_Wences I use KeePass for everything - passwords for work and home. Love it - clients for Linux and android and other OSs that I don't really use.
07:53:24 PMShineShadow And two repeaters nation wide
07:53:26 PMDave-Maydew I already take the red pill each day
07:53:35 PMTNFrank A $2 calculator has more power.
07:53:40 PMTNFrank Star Trek
07:54:18 PMDave-Maydew Not stable out of the Bill Gates
07:54:29 PMTNFrank LOL,
07:54:45 PMShineShadow Good thing RobbieF doesnt have a scewed opinion of microsoft when he writes these news articles
07:54:56 PMTNFrank ArchEnemy has a song called "Nemesis".
07:54:57 PM_Jot_ 95 was chicago
07:55:08 PMTNFrank but I don't think it has anything to do with Arch Linux though
07:55:28 PMShineShadow not at all
07:55:30 PMMastermindzh hows it going chaslinux?
07:55:40 PMTNFrank Windows 9 will be called "Linux" LOL
07:55:42 PMMastermindzh got it yet :P?
07:55:45 PMDave-Maydew No Vista was called "Microsofts Ginger haired Step Child!!"
07:55:50 PMShineShadow lol
07:55:56 PMMastermindzh Vista actually ran fine :P
07:56:05 PMchaslinux Nothing yet... and it's not a big password... just every other character is weird.
07:56:09 PMGoodGuy Windows 9 = Deja Vu
07:56:13 PMTNFrank In a few months XP will be called "dead as a doornail"
07:56:22 PMTNFrank Like a Hurrican
07:56:24 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, what mode are you using btw ?
07:56:43 PMShineShadow XD
07:57:00 PMTNFrank That's like the Roku 3 is now
07:57:07 PMGoodGuy Is the new Roku 3 the same as the old Roku 3?
07:57:14 PMchaslinux Just 'john passwordfile'
07:57:17 PMTNFrank I have a Roku 2, forget if it's XD or XS though
07:57:22 PMDave-Maydew CRT??
07:57:28 PMDave-Maydew what's that lol
07:57:33 PMMastermindzh won't that do worldlist first chaslinux ?
07:57:33 PM_Jot_ Cathode Ray Tube
07:57:44 PMGoodGuy I have Roku 2 XS was top of the line b4 the Roku 3
07:57:48 PMchaslinux Dunno never used it/
07:57:49 PMShineShadow Component
07:57:55 PMTNFrank I got a Sony Trinitron 36" CRT TV for $40 bucks and it totally rocks.
07:57:55 PMMastermindzh I think it did haha
07:57:57 PMDave-Maydew I remember getting a shock from a CRT
07:58:13 PMTNFrank Weighs a ton but it's flat screen and has an awesome picture
07:58:13 PMalpeck ouch
07:58:20 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: Is the new Roku 3 the same as the old Roku 3?
07:58:31 PMTNFrank Espically after all that Vodka, be careful RobbieF
07:58:40 PMchaslinux Is there a switch I should use to crack it faster?
07:58:51 PMTNFrank What, they won't let you have a pocket knife in Canada, LOL
07:58:59 PM_Jot_ Just not RobbieF
07:59:00 PMMastermindzh john -incremental:all filename chaslinux
07:59:04 PMGoodGuy Roku has too many annoying ads imho
07:59:13 PMTNFrank LOL, throw that thing away, we're MEN we don't need no stinkin' manual
07:59:14 PMShineShadow Next they will outlaw pockets too
07:59:27 PMGoodGuy I do like the new remote with headphone jack
07:59:40 PMalpeck pockets will become illegal storage devices
07:59:48 PMShineShadow lol
07:59:50 PMTNFrank EcoAlkli
07:59:52 PMTNFrank LOL
08:00:01 PMchaslinux so in 21 minutes it didn't do it...
08:00:29 PMTNFrank Looks like a Hockey Puc
08:00:30 PMchaslinux Trying your suggestion now Mastermindzh
08:00:31 PM_Jot_ EricKidd must really like it then :)
08:00:33 PMTNFrank You have to protect your bottom
08:00:40 PMMastermindzh my suggestion was a PURE bruteforce attack with ALL characters btw ;)
08:00:46 PMchaslinux RobbieF, yeah they did it on the Pivos XIOS DS too though just the top
08:01:17 PMDave-Maydew Ah RCA Phono
08:01:20 PMDave-Maydew lovely
08:01:59 PMchaslinux So I missed it is it the XS or XD?
08:02:13 PMTNFrank They're all probably the same adapter, LOL
08:02:14 PMShineShadow Roku is so small I never know where to put it in relation to my other video and audio components
08:02:17 PM_Jot_ lol, like 12v or 5v electricity is different if it comes out of a different adapter
08:02:24 PMchaslinux Do appreciate when they say the name on the adapter...
08:02:35 PMoaesystemstech Too bad they didn't go with the purple power supply
08:02:42 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: Is the new Roku 3 the same as the old Roku 3?
08:02:45 PMMastermindzh RobbieF's packing tips :P
08:02:53 PMTNFrank Google Plus, Google Plus, Please, Please Please
08:03:14 PMMastermindzh Did you sent in a question TNFrank :P?
08:03:18 PMTNFrank Yep
08:03:28 PMTNFrank about Google Plus, if you didn't figure that out by now, LOL
08:03:41 PMMastermindzh haha :)
08:03:52 PMShineShadow Your such a tease
08:04:10 PMTNFrank I just wondered about when I use my PC to call another PC how do they know I'm calling them"
08:04:48 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, you should just try some of that stuff :)
08:04:50 PMTNFrank IOS, yep, Apple
08:05:03 PMTNFrank I don't have anyone to video chat with yet, LOL
08:05:23 PMMastermindzh well basically
08:05:25 PMMastermindzh your both online
08:05:29 PMTNFrank I guess I'd have to call them and let them know that I'm going to "call" using Hangouts for video chat???
08:05:29 PMMastermindzh so one of you clicks call
08:05:32 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/wirecast
08:05:32 PMMastermindzh the other one gets a message
08:05:43 PMMastermindzh nope
08:05:46 PMMastermindzh you sign in
08:05:48 PMMastermindzh see if he's online
08:05:50 PMMastermindzh if he is
08:05:51 PMMastermindzh call him
08:05:55 PMMastermindzh if he picks up, he's there :)
08:05:59 PMTNFrank So even with Google Plus not open as long as his computer is on he'll get a pop up or something
08:06:11 PMMastermindzh that would depend on how he set it up
08:06:40 PMagamotto Well, I am off to make some dinner... I have some lovely parmesagna reggiano, some asiago, and sharp cheddar that are dying to be mixed into a sauce with some farfalle pasta.
08:07:22 PMTNFrank Umm, sharp cheddar would go good on some Ritz crackers with a cold beer.
08:07:39 PMagamotto agreed
08:07:50 PMMastermindzh TNFrank, I can't talk right now and my webcam is idk where but I can show you hangouts if you want
08:07:50 PMDave-Maydew a nice ALE
08:07:51 PMTNFrank I still have half of a 40oz left over from last night, LOL. Shows how much(or little) I drink anymore.
08:08:17 PM_Jot_ RobbieF is very funny, a 3k apple on par with a 3k pc
08:08:31 PMMastermindzh indeed, a 3k pc would crush the apple :)
08:08:38 PMTNFrank That would be cool Mastermindzh. can you add me as a "friend" or something so you can find me??
08:08:48 PMMastermindzh sure, sent me a pm ;)
08:09:49 PM_Jot_ wait! there is still 3 minutes left
08:10:16 PM_Jot_ Yes, http://cat5.tv/studio is a great thing to support
08:10:29 PMGoodGuy SDI was Reagan's Starwars Defence Initative
08:11:13 PMDave-Maydew I almost forgot about the show tonight.... thankfully Google Calendar I have synced across my Android Devices and Ubuntu PC's reminded me all at the same time
08:11:20 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: EricKidd - the Medibuntu Repository shut down
08:11:26 PMchaslinux I'm going to let john run here and stay in the chat room... will update in 30 mins or so.
08:11:47 PMMastermindzh chaslinux, it might take longer haha :)
08:12:08 PMTNFrank RobbieF Linux users need to know about passwords too. :)
08:12:18 PM_Jot_ wow, you made it RobbieF, even with timing
08:12:32 PMDave-Maydew Woo Hooo
08:12:34 PMDave-Maydew G+
08:12:35 PMTNFrank What Google Plus next week
08:12:37 PMShineShadow Thanks for another great show RobbieF and EricKidd
08:12:40 PM_Jot_ yeah, hangout :)
08:12:56 PMTNFrank Cool, so I can actually use my Google Plus account, LOL
08:13:02 PMDave-Maydew I shall be joining on G+ then
08:13:09 PMgpop7 good night everyone. great show. have a great week.
08:13:23 PMDennis_Kelley Me too Dave-Maydew
08:13:29 PMDave-Maydew Goodnight gpop7
08:13:35 PMShineShadow take care gpop7
08:13:36 PMTNFrank I actually have some updates on my #2 that I have to install, LOL
08:13:40 PMoaesystemstech Have attempted to submit a question a few times and have run up against the There's a problem.. error message. Any suggestions as to what that is about?
08:13:49 PMTNFrank Hangouts are next week
08:13:50 PMDave-Maydew We've not spoken since ages Dennis
08:14:03 PMDave-Maydew especially on G+
08:14:09 PMgpop7 until we meet again. same time same channel.
08:14:16 PMMastermindzh oaesystemstech: try a different browser
08:14:19 PMrats_ Ty Robbie and Eric-The video quality was excellent
08:14:22 PM_Jot_ oaesystemstech, no idea, but you can always email live@category5.tv to send i na question
08:14:49 PMDave-Maydew and now I'm back at my parents with 80mb Fibre I won't be dropping a thing
08:14:50 PMDave-Maydew lol
08:15:45 PM_Jot_ hey EricKidd, thanks for trying to send knowledge to people
08:15:53 PMTNFrank and now everyone leaves, what, folks don't like "After Party"
08:16:12 PMrobgor great show RobbieF, EricKidd
08:16:13 PM_Jot_ maybe they have other things to do, or are in different parts of the world and want to sleep
08:16:20 PMShineShadow Bye yall...see you next week. Thanks again RobbieF and EricKidd
08:16:22 PMDave-Maydew I'm here for another 10mins, but my bed at the other side of the room is calling me
08:16:26 PMTNFrank Sleep, what Sleep. LOL
08:16:34 PMDave-Maydew See ya ShineShadow
08:16:43 PM_Jot_ have a great week SHineShadow
08:16:58 PMTNFrank Need to go see something over at Google Plus, brb.
08:16:59 PMSteve[cug] and the exodus starts
08:17:13 PMDennis_Kelley Who is setting up the Hangout?
08:17:25 PMShineShadow See you Dave-Maydew...You too _Jot_
08:17:27 PMDave-Maydew ??? not me
08:19:44 PMTNFrank Mastermindzh Ok, I saw where you sent me a message but was "I'm sending you a message now" THE message, LOL
08:19:58 PMMastermindzh yes it was :)
08:20:18 PMTNFrank I don't have to be anywhere until 9PM CST when "Person of Interest" starts.
08:20:30 PM_Jot_ oh, they finally found you TNFrank?
08:20:32 PMTNFrank Mastermindzh then I got the message. LOL
08:21:10 PMMastermindzh good :)
08:21:12 PMTNFrank Ok, I'm getting "beeped" but don't see where to go to see what's beeping.
08:21:19 PMMastermindzh it's me
08:21:21 PMMastermindzh in the chat
08:21:31 PMMastermindzh click "hangouts" in the top right
08:21:33 PMDave-Maydew As I always say, if anyone wants to add me on G+ I'm David Maydew M0DCM
08:21:46 PMDave-Maydew and on Twitter I'm Dave Maydew M0DCM
08:21:52 PMDave-Maydew lol
08:23:02 PM_Jot_ sounds like you got your bases covered :)
08:23:18 PM_Jot_ welcome back EricKidd and RobbieF
08:23:46 PMDave-Maydew always
08:23:49 PMMastermindzh the only thing of use for you guys would be my flickr :)
08:23:59 PMDave-Maydew I do have Facebook.... but hate it with a passion
08:24:01 PMMastermindzh g+ facebook twitter is all in dutch :)
08:24:02 PMTNFrank Ok, I'm still not getting it
08:24:19 PMTNFrank What am I suppose to be doing here?
08:24:42 PMMastermindzh are you on the google plus page?
08:24:54 PMTNFrank Not right now but I can be in a second
08:24:59 PM_Jot_ On the top right it should have some kind of notification thing
08:24:59 PMMastermindzh alright go there
08:25:03 PMMastermindzh yep
08:25:08 PMTNFrank Ok, let me look
08:25:15 PMMastermindzh and below that is a button with a green qoute and hangouts next to it
08:26:20 PMTNFrank The little "Bell", ok and the green quote ok, now what.
08:26:53 PMTNFrank I see you Mastermindzh and my buddy John and RobbieF there.
08:27:15 PMMastermindzh below my name should be a little line of text
08:27:17 PMMastermindzh correct?
08:27:37 PMTNFrank Yes,
08:27:46 PMMastermindzh thats the last thing I said to you :)
08:27:54 PMMastermindzh so now you can click on my name
08:27:57 PMTNFrank Ahh, ok, and that's it then
08:27:58 PMMastermindzh a small window will pop up
08:28:10 PMMastermindzh that, and sounds and a notification at the bell icon
08:28:11 PMTNFrank Ok
08:28:19 PMMastermindzh but it won't spam you
08:28:27 PMMastermindzh so if I send you 100000 messages
08:28:34 PMMastermindzh it won't give you 10000 notifications
08:28:42 PMMastermindzh did you get the little popup?
08:28:45 PMTNFrank Ahh, ok, I think I've got it.
08:29:00 PMTNFrank Yep, it shows the message you send then then second message.
08:29:14 PMMastermindzh you can click on the small arrow to "detach" the popup
08:29:19 PMMastermindzh just like you can do it with an email
08:29:28 PMMastermindzh which will give you a seperate browser window with JUST the chat
08:29:36 PMTNFrank Ok, got it.
08:29:51 PMMastermindzh now in the popup you can type stuff to me as well
08:29:55 PMMastermindzh you can also send smileys
08:29:58 PMMastermindzh and a picture
08:30:03 PMMastermindzh using the buttons to the left and right
08:30:13 PMMastermindzh I got that :)
08:30:15 PMMastermindzh and a beep
08:30:16 PMTNFrank Like that.
08:30:19 PMMastermindzh yep
08:30:24 PMMastermindzh and now I can call you
08:30:28 PMTNFrank So it's chat too then
08:30:29 PMMastermindzh using the little video icon
08:30:33 PMMastermindzh yes :)
08:30:38 PMMastermindzh it's like skype really
08:30:39 PMMastermindzh just online
08:30:55 PMTNFrank Ok, so the little camera is for video chat then.
08:31:07 PMMastermindzh yep
08:31:09 PMMastermindzh ill call
08:31:13 PMMastermindzh you can see what happens :)
08:31:30 PMTNFrank ok, got my camera plugged in.
08:31:36 PMMastermindzh hang on
08:31:37 PMDave-Maydew Right everyone
08:31:40 PMMastermindzh first time using it on this pc xD
08:31:45 PMDave-Maydew I best head off to bed
08:31:52 PMMastermindzh Have a great night Dave-Maydew !
08:31:56 PMTNFrank See ya' later Dave-Maydew
08:31:56 PMDave-Maydew but I shall pop on throughout the week
08:32:04 PMDave-Maydew thanks Masterminzh
08:32:15 PMDennis_Kelley Mastermindzh are you in the hangout?
08:32:24 PMMastermindzh not the same one your in
08:32:35 PMMastermindzh I'm in a seperate hangout with TNFrank
08:33:20 PMDennis_Kelley Can I get in?
08:33:24 PMTNFrank Ok, can you hear me at all
08:34:12 PM_Jot_ no, but then i'm not in the hangout :P I'll give it a try next week
08:36:13 PMDennis_Kelley Nevermind! Catch you all next week.
08:38:31 PMrobgor anyone going into hangouts?
08:39:51 PM_Jot_ not tonight, too busy with things :)
08:42:34 PMrobgor oh well Iam outa heya might install new distro on this pc zorinos is anonying me :(
08:42:39 PMrobgor night guys
08:45:39 PMRobbieF hey all
08:45:43 PM_Jot_ hey RobbieF
08:45:55 PMRobbieF :)
08:46:21 PM_Jot_ If everything goes well I'll be making a pledge tomorrow/today but I was wondering if I could make multiple :)
08:50:52 PM_Jot_ I know there always is a way, just wondering if the site supports that
08:51:11 PM_Jot_ at least I may be trying that this and next month :)
08:52:27 PMRobbieF Multiple is a great way to do it because it counts as more activity
08:52:34 PMRobbieF And, thanks!
09:06:05 PM_Jot_ are you playing with the Roku, RobbieF?
09:06:58 PMRobbieF no, was just checking the email, and getting the show up and online
09:07:12 PMRobbieF looks like a sweet little device, I say!
09:07:16 PMRobbieF can't wait to have our own channel!
09:07:30 PM_Jot_ yeah, that will be great, and on cable and what not :)
09:11:14 PMRobbieF That'll be incredible.
09:11:31 PMRobbieF To me, it's about getting Linux out there. You see Windows shows all the time, and even a few Mac, but never anything about Linux.
09:11:40 PMRobbieF So we want to take this further than ever.
09:11:58 PM_Jot_ yeah, it definatly deserves it
09:12:09 PM_Jot_ and almost everybody uses it without realizing it
09:13:41 PM_Jot_ thanks for the BSP :)
09:16:59 PMRobbieF yes, that's right
09:17:06 PMRobbieF oh, you want to see me staring at a screen? Sorry :)
09:17:12 PMRobbieF literally waiting for the file to render
09:17:15 PMRobbieF so I can upload it
09:17:19 PMRobbieF and just putting the database fields up
09:17:30 PMRobbieF not an exciting show this after-hours party.
09:17:31 PMRobbieF :)
09:17:34 PMrobgor bye bye zorinos and hellow xubuntu for now
09:17:37 PM_Jot_ haha I closed it now so no need to put it up :)
09:17:50 PMRobbieF Interesting move robgor
09:17:55 PMRobbieF Lubuntu might also be worth trying
09:18:05 PMMastermindzh Hey RobbieF, good to see you in the chat :D
09:18:13 PMRobbieF Hi Mastermindzh
09:18:17 PMMastermindzh I did have a question though
09:18:19 PMRobbieF Yes, sorry I'm late. It was a truly busy night
09:18:19 PMMastermindzh can I donate twice
09:18:25 PMRobbieF Yes, and we encourage it
09:18:31 PMRobbieF and you can get more perks that way
09:18:31 PMrobgor yeah I tried that but prefer xubuntu, hate unity
09:18:37 PMMastermindzh and is paypal working as well?
09:18:47 PMRobbieF Lubuntu is LXDE. Yes, I also hate unity tbh... wish I didn't, but I do.
09:18:52 PMRobbieF Yes, paypal works now Mastermindzh
09:19:02 PMMastermindzh Alright
09:19:08 PMMastermindzh you better have a big ass smile next week then :D
09:19:10 PMRobbieF we simply had to open a Canadian Paypal account to let them accept Canadian donations
09:19:19 PMRobbieF I promise to smile very big for you Mastermindzh!
09:19:32 PMMastermindzh Haha cool :)
09:19:46 PMMastermindzh I'll commit 2 more dollars
09:19:52 PMMastermindzh and maybe a couple times more 2 dollars
09:20:13 PMrobgor yeah just deciding to stay with a ubuntu based os due to it being supported by steam, should have less problems over other non ubuntu distros
09:20:17 PM_Jot_ Don't forget to fatfinger it and make it 200000 :)
09:20:28 PM_Jot_ or 2222222
09:20:37 PMMastermindzh :P
09:20:53 PMRobbieF ;)
09:21:14 PM_Jot_ then RobbieF will be like I have sad news, I was going to hold a nice campaign but somebody gave so much, I had to prematurely end it
09:21:27 PMRobbieF Thanks Mastermindzh - yes, you can do $2 say, once every couple days or something... works out to be the cost of a cup of coffee, but creates some activity to help people notice the campaign.
09:21:31 PMMastermindzh I think he would then just rebuild the enterprise :)
09:21:34 PMRobbieF And, I thank you.
09:21:46 PMMastermindzh Yeah I was thinking about something like that :)
09:21:51 PMrobgor robbief have you still got the vegemite? maybe do a dare every time you or one of the cohost tries it people donate say $2
09:22:03 PMRobbieF Hahaha, but that's evil robgor! :)
09:22:04 PMRobbieF hehe
09:22:19 PMRobbieF but I suppose I'd do it.
09:22:21 PMRobbieF For $5.
09:22:32 PMMastermindzh you cheat
09:22:32 PMMastermindzh :p
09:23:08 PMMastermindzh TNFrank now gets google plus btw :)
09:23:14 PMRobbieF :)
09:23:17 PMRobbieF Cool
09:23:21 PMRobbieF hangout next tuesday night after the show!
09:23:27 PMMastermindzh yep :)
09:23:37 PMMastermindzh I'll try and make it :)
09:23:42 PMRobbieF coolo
09:24:11 PMGoodGuy RobbieF: the Medibuntu Repository shut down
09:24:13 PMMastermindzh I'll just be late next morning :)
09:24:18 PMrobgor well I will be able to watch live again next week, never tried hangouts before so might give it a go
09:24:20 PMGoodGuy Did you read that?
09:24:24 PMRobbieF What a shame GoodGuy
09:24:30 PMGoodGuy I know
09:24:31 PMRobbieF they've been faltering a while now...
09:24:45 PMMastermindzh robgor, hangouts is just like a big ass group chat in a bar :D
09:24:46 PMGoodGuy Everyone was using that for ages
09:24:48 PMRobbieF that'd be cool robgor
09:24:58 PMMastermindzh except with nerds, and long distance :D

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