| 06:58:07 PM | mastermindzh | mmm indiegogo errors out on payment ...
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| 06:58:09 PM | ShineShadow | hey oldhack
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| 06:58:39 PM | IMTech5 | Hey oldhack!
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| 06:58:43 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, you actually need to have money to pay
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| 06:58:49 PM | mastermindzh | hehe thanks _jot_
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| 06:59:08 PM | oldhack | I've been to Oz and back. Glad to see the gang is all here
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| 06:59:25 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, Tuesday night at the Tech Pub. LOL
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| 06:59:33 PM | oldhack | yup
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| 06:59:41 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, it does it even to partners :)
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| 06:59:43 PM | mastermindzh | Sorry RobbieF, Will have to try it again tomorrow :)
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| 07:00:20 PM | TN_Frank | LOL
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| 07:00:23 PM | oldhack | RobbieF really is the bomb
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| 07:00:41 PM | oldhack | I mean that in the best possible way NSA
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| 07:00:48 PM | ShineShadow | haha
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| 07:00:49 PM | TN_Frank | Fixin' to get really cold here in Tennessee for the next couple three nights.
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| 07:00:49 PM | mastermindzh | youtube is being slow again hehe
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| 07:00:56 PM | TN_Frank | Going to get down to 21*F tonight.
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| 07:01:01 PM | oldhack | wow
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| 07:01:08 PM | TN_Frank | Hey, there ya' are RobbieF
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| 07:01:10 PM | mastermindzh | At least you can keep the drinks cool now TN_Frank ;)
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| 07:01:13 PM | oldhack | we will freeze for the first time this year
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| 07:01:23 PM | _Jot_ | here it is pretty cold too, not so much today I think, but apparently we had the first frost in the air
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| 07:01:29 PM | TN_Frank | Rather have hot tea to tell ya' the truth.
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| 07:01:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | 11/12/13 everyone! very unique
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| 07:01:45 PM | GoodGuy | Hi Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:01:54 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, sorry man I have some here but I'm afraid it will be cold when it gets to your place hehe
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| 07:02:01 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, when I set up a laptop for sale I use "1234567" as the password
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| 07:02:08 PM | _Jot_ | hey Dennis_Kelley, in the civilized world, that day is next month :)
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| 07:02:14 PM | BobK54 | Hey Tn_Frank. I'm headed to Gatlinburn on Saturday. Trying to keep you taxes low!
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| 07:02:16 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, I have a ton of PG Tips tea here
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| 07:02:30 PM | BobK54 | GatlinburG
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| 07:02:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello GoodGuy
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| 07:02:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ Helleo
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| 07:02:53 PM | TN_Frank | Gatlinburg is North of Nashville IIRC, that's about 120 miles West of me here in Crossville.
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| 07:03:26 PM | _Jot_ | about 30 seconds delay on the youtube stream :)
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| 07:03:29 PM | BobK54 | nope, east of knoxville. gatlinburg/pigeon forge. big tourist trap! :)
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| 07:03:32 PM | TN_Frank | "but with one addition"
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| 07:03:43 PM | mastermindzh | hey revdjenk :D
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| 07:03:46 PM | GoodGuy | Abigail's name wasn't mentioned in the intro video
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| 07:03:51 PM | TN_Frank | Oh, I was thinking Galitin, my bad, LOL
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| 07:03:53 PM | revdjenk | hey mastermindzh _Jot_
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| 07:04:00 PM | _Jot_ | hi revdjenk
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| 07:04:05 PM | RobbieF | GoodGuy: Abigail has left the show.
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| 07:04:07 PM | revdjenk | the show late, huh...
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| 07:04:09 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, that's only about 90 miles East of me
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| 07:04:13 PM | ShineShadow | hey revdjenk
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| 07:04:17 PM | BobK54 | yep, been to Galitin.
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| 07:04:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Bob54 - may parents live in NC near TN Boarder. not too far!
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| 07:04:25 PM | mastermindzh | revdjenk, you only missed the intro :)
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| 07:04:26 PM | GoodGuy | Oh sorry to hear that.. I am behind on the Cat5 news
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| 07:04:27 PM | revdjenk | hey ShineShadow
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| 07:04:31 PM | revdjenk | ahhhh
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| 07:04:33 PM | RobbieF | ^^ Abigail got pregnant!
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| 07:04:43 PM | BobK54 | uh oh...
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| 07:04:46 PM | revdjenk | ohhhh RobbieF
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| 07:04:54 PM | mastermindzh | Well GoodGuy, there's this great indiegogo campaign going on right now at cat5.tv/studio!
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| 07:04:57 PM | _Jot_ | how did that happen? oh wait, don't tell us
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| 07:05:00 PM | TN_Frank | It's really going to get cold in the Pigeon Forge area over the next few days.
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| 07:05:23 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: hey! yes, we are cold and some intermittent flurry activity
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| 07:05:27 PM | GoodGuy | Wow that was quick... My wife did that and several family ppl said she must have been pregnant already.. their math was bad,,, 10+ months lol
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| 07:05:36 PM | BobK54 | yeah. my wife and I have gotten a cabin there this time of year the past few years. time to recharge pre-holidays AND....we get some shopping done too!
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| 07:05:41 PM | revdjenk | GoodGuy: hee hee
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| 07:05:43 PM | _Jot_ | Just donate at http://cat5.tv/studio people
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| 07:05:56 PM | TN_Frank | it was actually spitting show a very little bit earlier this a.m. here on the Plateau.
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| 07:05:58 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: already have!
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| 07:06:04 PM | mastermindzh | Paypal is not working right now for me though, anyone else having this issue?
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| 07:06:13 PM | _Jot_ | revdjenk, so have I, good of us :) but I wish we could give more
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| 07:06:32 PM | revdjenk | still starting?
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| 07:06:40 PM | revdjenk | yes, _Jot_
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| 07:06:44 PM | BobK54 | TN_Frank, I'm just south of Louisville KY, I had snow on my grass this morning. As soon as the sun got to it it was gone
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| 07:06:50 PM | mastermindzh | no revdjenk, it has begun already
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| 07:07:07 PM | revdjenk | i have a black screen...should I move to youtube?
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| 07:07:14 PM | ShineShadow | Had flurries on the ground here in CT also this morning
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| 07:07:17 PM | TN_Frank | BobK54, wow, looks like "Winter" is getting here early
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| 07:07:22 PM | mastermindzh | probably, it's working fine now. does have a 30sec delay
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| 07:07:28 PM | GoodGuy | How about a calendar with the girls of Cat5
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| 07:07:38 PM | BobK54 | amen TN_Frank. a bit too early.
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| 07:07:42 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, they do have pictures!
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| 07:07:49 PM | mastermindzh | GoodGuy, 50 bucks get you a cat5 season 6 team poster :D
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| 07:07:49 PM | TN_Frank | A lady hit a Buck out front of the house a couple mornings ago
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| 07:08:06 PM | TN_Frank | Global Warming my butt, LOL
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| 07:08:08 PM | GoodGuy | I meant a calendar like many stores offer this time of year
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| 07:08:14 PM | ShineShadow | TN_Frank: did she keep it?
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| 07:08:16 PM | BobK54 | "The Girls of Cat5.tv".
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| 07:08:17 PM | oldhack | GoodGuy, this is still a family show, right?
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| 07:08:23 PM | ShineShadow | or did you :)
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| 07:08:47 PM | _Jot_ | so? Eric can be on it too
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| 07:08:55 PM | _Jot_ | and RobbieF
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| 07:08:56 PM | TN_Frank | TWRA had to come out and shoot it , it wasn't dead. They took it away, said the Adrenalin would make the meat bad anyway.
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| 07:08:59 PM | GoodGuy | Sure... I didn't suggest any state of undress... we see their faces for an hour every week :-)
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| 07:09:04 PM | mastermindzh | In a pink dress hehe :P
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| 07:09:23 PM | ShineShadow | too bad :(
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| 07:09:26 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Don't be sexist have RobbieF and EricKidd on the calendar also!
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| 07:09:31 PM | TN_Frank | Linux is simple, I love Linux
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| 07:09:31 PM | mastermindzh | GoodGuy, don't tell anyone. But you can make your own calendar by downloading the images from category5.tv ;)
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| 07:09:37 PM | GoodGuy | Sounds good
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| 07:09:41 PM | _Jot_ | Sorry Hillary, my money went to http://cat5.tv/studio so none for you :)
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| 07:10:10 PM | GoodGuy | I know... I was kidding as another fundraiser idea
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| 07:10:31 PM | revdjenk | ah, there we go....
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| 07:10:35 PM | TN_Frank | RobbieF I wonder if your Canadian accent comes through with lip reading???
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| 07:10:40 PM | mastermindzh | got it working revdjenk?
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| 07:10:45 PM | revdjenk | hey RobbieF Hillary
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| 07:10:50 PM | revdjenk | yes, mastermindzh
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| 07:10:55 PM | mastermindzh | cool :D
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| 07:11:00 PM | robgor | Autographed Season 6 Portrait thats what Iam getting
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| 07:11:16 PM | _Jot_ | oh wow, I'm going to win lots of batteries, I just needed some
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| 07:11:32 PM | mastermindzh | I have 3 (soon 4), contributes on indiegogo in total. all for category5 hehe
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| 07:11:50 PM | mastermindzh | robgor, I got the 20 dollar thing, 2 smiles and soon will get the stickers D:
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| 07:12:06 PM | _Jot_ | Maybe paypal doesn't let you pay because it thinks something must be wrong since you keep doing the same thing over and over again
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| 07:12:20 PM | robgor | hey jot u are banned from prizes you have won to many lol
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| 07:12:26 PM | mastermindzh | it's indiegogo erroring, not paypal ;)
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| 07:12:33 PM | TN_Frank | I could only afford $10 but at least it was something. Wish I could do more.:-(
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| 07:12:36 PM | BobK54 | I recently had that problem with paypal. contributed to my distro 2X. my fault.
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| 07:12:38 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you know I'm from Overijssel, which is a weird province, I already told you that before :P
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| 07:12:46 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, every bit helps :)
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| 07:12:47 PM | TN_Frank | Tennessee
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| 07:12:49 PM | ShineShadow | CT
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| 07:12:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Can we do it twice?
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| 07:12:56 PM | ShineShadow | COnnecticut
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| 07:13:00 PM | mastermindzh | Do what Twice Dennis_Kelley?
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| 07:13:07 PM | sanseriff | Pennsylvania
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| 07:13:08 PM | IMTech5 | New York!
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| 07:13:10 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: you are really from Overthetop
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| 07:13:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | cast my ballet
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| 07:13:12 PM | mastermindzh | Donate at http://cat5.tv/studio ? , you sure can!
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| 07:13:13 PM | Jim_Gregory | New York
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| 07:13:15 PM | keckeckec | California
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| 07:13:20 PM | rats_ | Ohio
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| 07:13:22 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, RobbieF surely will keep a count and only let you enter once so just do it twice i ncase he missed you
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| 07:13:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Michigan
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| 07:13:34 PM | BobK54 | Dennis_Kelley: paypal sent me an email asking if my second donation was a mistake.
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| 07:13:40 PM | revdjenk | WV
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| 07:13:53 PM | revdjenk | wow
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| 07:14:01 PM | GoodGuy | Freaky..I tried my password manager under Crossover... I used it often on PinguyOS 11.04 w/o issues
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| 07:14:03 PM | mastermindzh | BobK54, I got that when I donated the $2's for the second time hehe
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| 07:14:16 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary, it's amazing cool beans to be registered :P
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| 07:14:20 PM | GoodGuy | It totally locked up on Mint 15
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| 07:14:39 PM | ShineShadow | cool beans...haha
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| 07:14:47 PM | revdjenk | we love love love
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| 07:14:47 PM | mastermindzh | You can also join the cat5.tv whatpulse team: http://whatpulse.org/stats/teams/20079/
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| 07:14:47 PM | TN_Frank | GoodGuy you should switch to Point Linux. I've been running it for over 2 months problem free
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| 07:15:16 PM | _Jot_ | ShineShadow, it's Hillary's words :)
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| 07:15:34 PM | ShineShadow | I know... :)
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| 07:15:37 PM | oldhack | I just re-registered half an hour ago
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| 07:15:43 PM | TN_Frank | I think I've got everyone here clued in to TN being Tennessee, LOL;-)
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| 07:15:45 PM | _Jot_ | hi oldoldhack :)
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| 07:15:46 PM | mastermindzh | why did you re-rgister oldhack?
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| 07:16:13 PM | TN_Frank | ChrisLAS over at the Linux Action Show still wants to call me "T" "N" Frank instead of Tennessee Frank, LOL
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| 07:16:31 PM | mastermindzh | I still don't get why you have Frank in your username :P
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| 07:16:34 PM | oldhack | mastermindzh:: It's been quite a while since I have been here
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| 07:16:53 PM | mastermindzh | well, welcome back :D
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| 07:17:03 PM | oldhack | mastermindzh: maybe I forgot my password? I already tried 123456. lol
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| 07:17:11 PM | mastermindzh | Try "Password" ;)
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| 07:17:24 PM | oldhack | THAT'S
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| 07:17:24 PM | oldhack | IT
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| 07:17:25 PM | TN_Frank | In '99 in joined the Single Action Shooting Society (SASS) which is Cowboy action shooting and I needed an alias. My middle name is Francis so I went with Frank and we lived in Tennessee so TN.
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| 07:17:29 PM | mastermindzh | cool!
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| 07:17:29 PM | mastermindzh | :D
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| 07:17:32 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: but Chris can't pronounce a lot of words
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| 07:17:49 PM | mastermindzh | Ah, that explains it TN_frank ;)
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| 07:17:50 PM | _Jot_ | I log in to the site every day because viewer points, so I never forget the password :)
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| 07:17:52 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, ChrisLAS is still wondering if he's going to do a video show or just go audio.
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| 07:18:11 PM | TN_Frank | I'm Totally Old School
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| 07:18:22 PM | TN_Frank | RobbieF Ditto to that, I love my MATE desktop
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| 07:18:23 PM | revdjenk | RobbieF: bought a new laptop, updated win8 to linuxmint 15 !!
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| 07:18:33 PM | mastermindzh | nice revdjenk :)
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| 07:18:43 PM | revdjenk | my lenovo died!!
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| 07:18:46 PM | mastermindzh | no uefi problems?
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| 07:18:51 PM | mastermindzh | Did you mistreat it again!?
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| 07:18:54 PM | dos89 | I like Windows 8.1 more advanced than Linux.
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| 07:18:54 PM | TN_Frank | Way too much clutter
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| 07:19:06 PM | mastermindzh | dos89, nothing is more advanced than linux ;)
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| 07:19:27 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: I booted off line, so I could get far enough into win8 to change the bios to legacy boot!
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| 07:19:35 PM | tic-toc | 8.1 is much better
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| 07:19:41 PM | TN_Frank | MicroSoft is EVIL
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| 07:19:53 PM | mastermindzh | 8.1 is "good", linux is WAY better though hehe
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| 07:20:09 PM | mastermindzh | I think most of the people in the chat tend to agree hehe
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| 07:20:10 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: I started in windows with version 1.03 and win8 reminds me of that!!
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| 07:20:12 PM | tic-toc | the NSA is inside them all, it doesn't matter
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| 07:20:18 PM | TN_Frank | RobbieF You're NOT into Football!!!!!!
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| 07:20:25 PM | TN_Frank | =-O
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| 07:20:31 PM | _Jot_ | I like windows 1.03 even better
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| 07:20:48 PM | oldhack | I love M$ Win 8. Because if you don't know what your hobbies are they will just give you some
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| 07:20:53 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: but slow on 8088 based computer!
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| 07:20:53 PM | ShineShadow | tic-toc: your absolutely correct...
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| 07:20:59 PM | mastermindzh | RobbieF, you sound like my dad right now lols
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| 07:21:24 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF< try installing linux, that should fix it
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| 07:21:41 PM | mastermindzh | I like how RobbieF is using a preview build hehe :D
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| 07:21:50 PM | TN_Frank | Classic Shell OR just download Point Linux and be done with it.
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| 07:22:13 PM | ShineShadow | Windows is making RobbieF lose his mind...
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| 07:22:15 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, you and your point linux :P
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| 07:22:31 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: I thought that preview build ended use in July?
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| 07:22:35 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, can't help it. Point Linux just works and is easy for me to use.
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| 07:22:39 PM | mastermindzh | Best windows, but that doesn't say much hehe
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| 07:22:56 PM | mastermindzh | revdjenk, I believe a trial version displays the same message. not sure though
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| 07:22:57 PM | sanseriff | linux only don't care what microsoft does to windoze
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| 07:23:04 PM | _Jot_ | revdjenk, that is the preview beta, new preview-versions are trial versions, basically any windows 8 without serial works for 30 days
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| 07:23:05 PM | TN_Frank | Quote for the night. "It is what it is Bro. " lOL
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| 07:23:10 PM | TN_Frank | :-D
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| 07:23:17 PM | revdjenk | _Jot_: thanks
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| 07:23:20 PM | oldhack | lol
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| 07:23:25 PM | TN_Frank | Just about everything.
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| 07:23:40 PM | dos89 | You can change settings and get your own weather in Windows 8.1
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| 07:23:53 PM | mastermindzh | dos89, should recognize that without you having to do anything ;)
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| 07:24:11 PM | mastermindzh | wb slipp3d
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| 07:24:13 PM | jblake58 | Robbie, I like win8.1 to a degree, but thanks to Category 5 I'm learning Linux, Thanks!
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| 07:24:15 PM | _Jot_ | dos89, you know that and I know that, but it's RobbieF we're talking about :)
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| 07:24:27 PM | mastermindzh | jblake58, nice! what distro are you using :)?
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| 07:24:29 PM | revdjenk | win8 doesn't let you use a planned file/folder...
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| 07:24:34 PM | TN_Frank | Dr. Bill Baily uses Classic Shell on his Windows 8.1 computers even though he's a Linux guy
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| 07:24:41 PM | revdjenk | jblake58: yay!
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| 07:25:02 PM | revdjenk | jblake58: I have run Linux, w/o windows since 2006
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| 07:25:12 PM | rats_ | jblake58: You'll be glad you are learning Linux
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| 07:25:34 PM | jblake58 | I have been using Mint but this past week I just go Point 2.2. Not as easy but Robbie says more choices.
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| 07:25:52 PM | mastermindzh | RobbieF might be biased though ;)
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| 07:26:02 PM | mastermindzh | ask revdjenk, he's been using mint since forever ;)
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| 07:26:13 PM | TN_Frank | I moved to Point Linux from Mint 15 MATE and it was a pretty seamless transition for me.
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| 07:26:25 PM | rats_ | I use Kubuntu 12.04 and it just works
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| 07:26:28 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: mint since 2008
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| 07:26:48 PM | revdjenk | i do miss compiz and burn effect
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| 07:27:06 PM | TN_Frank | That's one of the cool things I love about MATE and PL 2.2
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| 07:27:07 PM | mastermindzh | I've been using Elementary since 2012, arch before that (mixed with ubuntu), and way back in the beginning I've used ubuntu.
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| 07:27:38 PM | revdjenk | I used ubuntu for two weeks, about how long I put up with vista
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| 07:27:43 PM | tic-toc | Linux is ok for a single user, but it simply cannot replace windows as a complete operating system especially for enterprise or businesses.
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| 07:27:54 PM | mastermindzh | revdjenk, why don't you just install it? I know it worked for version 14
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| 07:27:57 PM | _Jot_ | hillary, just yank on the powercord to turn your computer off, works every time
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| 07:28:12 PM | TN_Frank | _jot_ that's how I do it. LOL
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| 07:28:13 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, that's not true though.
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| 07:28:27 PM | sanseriff | quit running windows after microsoft said the copy of win 7 I was using which I had purchased as a family pack directly from microsoft when win 7 first came out which came with licence for 3 pc of which I was only using 2 was invalid for the third time
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| 07:28:27 PM | mastermindzh | I know loads of companies that run solely on linux.
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| 07:28:42 PM | tic-toc | sure it is, the software just isn't there for linux
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| 07:28:51 PM | mastermindzh | do you have an example?
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| 07:28:55 PM | mastermindzh | Because I tend to disagree :p
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| 07:28:57 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: really compiz in mint w/cinnamon? don't think they are compatible...maybe with MATE
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| 07:29:06 PM | TN_Frank | Hey, a menu, wow.
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| 07:29:07 PM | mastermindzh | revdjenk, think it was mate yeah.
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| 07:29:53 PM | revdjenk | MATE didn't appeal to me...just looked too "old"
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| 07:30:23 PM | mastermindzh | revdjenk, MATE is great for the old gnome2 feel though :D
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| 07:30:40 PM | tic-toc | try and put quickbooks on linux for a business that only uses quickbooks
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| 07:30:50 PM | TN_Frank | MATE looked a little like OS 9 with the faunt that is used but I go for how it works more then how it looks.
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| 07:31:07 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, it can be replaced by "GnuCash" ;)
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| 07:31:12 PM | revdjenk | hey everyone...blast from the past....a local non-profit asked me to look at their computer system... a pentium 4, 512meg RAM, 74Gb Hdd, running XP... woohoo
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| 07:31:23 PM | mastermindzh | nice revdjenk :D
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| 07:31:31 PM | mastermindzh | With linux that machine will run really well again :D
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| 07:31:46 PM | _Jot_ | ah, classic shell from http://www.classicshell.net
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| 07:31:55 PM | revdjenk | yes... especially since April 2014 is on the horizon
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| 07:31:56 PM | tic-toc | They don't want it replaced, they want quickbooks
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| 07:32:09 PM | GoodGuy | I still run XP
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| 07:32:11 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: how did you guess?
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| 07:32:33 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, I don't see how a business that does not want to change has anything to do with linux actually being inferiour ;)
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| 07:32:33 PM | mastermindzh | To me it just seems like someone is being naive and doesn't want to progress.
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| 07:32:48 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: or spend money
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| 07:32:58 PM | ShineShadow | revdjenk: sounds like a dell optiplex gx240 box
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| 07:33:04 PM | mastermindzh | gnucash is free revdjenk ;)
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| 07:33:26 PM | revdjenk | Gateway,
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| 07:33:50 PM | _Jot_ | I don't want gnucash! I want real cash! dollars or euros! So I can send them to http://cat5.tv/studio
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| 07:34:12 PM | revdjenk | Gateway E-4600
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| 07:34:19 PM | ShineShadow | ahh
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| 07:34:29 PM | IMTech5 | _Jot_: LOL!!!
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| 07:34:47 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, that's too funny.
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| 07:34:53 PM | tic-toc | They want software they are familiar with, they don't want change
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| 07:34:57 PM | ShineShadow | Nice RobbieF
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| 07:35:01 PM | mastermindzh | You ruined the joke by doing it pre-show RobbieF
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| 07:35:17 PM | mastermindzh | Still tic-toc, I don't see how that makes linux worse in the business environment.
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| 07:35:20 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, it is not a joke, that's actually what he does
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| 07:35:27 PM | ShineShadow | haha
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| 07:35:51 PM | mastermindzh | you didn't pay attention very well pre-show did you _jot_ hehe?
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| 07:36:00 PM | mastermindzh | wb dos89
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| 07:36:07 PM | tic-toc | Because it simply doesn't have the software they want. It's just that simple
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| 07:36:16 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, of course he says it's now a joke. But my spyware says otherwise :P
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| 07:36:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Man that is my code for my luggage!
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| 07:36:39 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, thats just 1 opinion. there are many people that DO want to change to linux.
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| 07:36:40 PM | _Jot_ | really? only idiots would use such a code
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| 07:37:01 PM | Dennis_Kelley | what are you saying _Jot_
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| 07:37:09 PM | _Jot_ | nothing, sir!
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| 07:37:10 PM | GoodGuy | Many that don't also... room for both opinions
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| 07:37:14 PM | ShineShadow | Jot: I dont know if youve looked around lately but....
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| 07:37:14 PM | mastermindzh | _Jot_ uses that code, he is trying to conceal the facts ;)
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| 07:37:19 PM | tic-toc | sure there are, but those are single users, not enterprise
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| 07:37:33 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, so the people I work for on a regular basis are not enterprises?
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| 07:37:37 PM | mastermindzh | Just because they use linux?
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| 07:38:16 PM | ShineShadow | There are all types out there and a lot of people just dont think strong passwords are important
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| 07:38:16 PM | mastermindzh | besides, most web servers use linux. most data centers use linux. but I guess those aren't enterprises are they?
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| 07:38:24 PM | GoodGuy | Adobe needs to think their security procedures
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| 07:38:44 PM | tic-toc | If they are not a business they are simply just users
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| 07:38:49 PM | mastermindzh | ShineShadow, I hate it when I'm with a customer and they write their password on a piece of paper. and then show it to me carelessly.
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| 07:38:51 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: this non-profit is a food bank for our local churches, most of the volunteer board are retired...and used to the older things, anyway
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| 07:39:14 PM | ShineShadow | I know ehat you mean mastermindzh
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| 07:39:22 PM | ShineShadow | what*
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| 07:39:36 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, now you're just being ignorant. there are many businesses that use linux ;)
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| 07:39:37 PM | mastermindzh | Most website providors use linux servers.
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| 07:39:37 PM | TN_Frank | 13579
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| 07:39:46 PM | sanseriff | not worried about my bank password if somebody wants the $1.30 I have in there their welcome to it
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| 07:39:49 PM | mastermindzh | so saying that enterprises don't use linux is just ignorant
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| 07:39:56 PM | oldhack | fibonocci series?
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| 07:40:00 PM | oldhack | sp
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| 07:40:07 PM | tic-toc | maybe for servers, not for users
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| 07:40:14 PM | mastermindzh | You could donate that 1.30 to cat5.tv ;)
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| 07:40:21 PM | _Jot_ | don't sell yourself short Hillary. Oh wait, that's a joke too
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| 07:40:28 PM | dos89 | mastermindzh I have used Linux in VMware and Virtual Box and planning to install to hard drive. thanks for wb.
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| 07:40:54 PM | mastermindzh | dos89, you'll be amazed at how much better it is! Feel free to stop by during the week if you need some additional help :)
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| 07:41:05 PM | revdjenk | yay dos89
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| 07:41:12 PM | TN_Frank | Hope the person doesn't get a muscle spasm and start smackin' the person next to them
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| 07:41:13 PM | mastermindzh | Try out Elementary OS, Point Linux, Zorin OS they are all very easy.
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| 07:41:42 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, the company I work for uses ONLY linux. both users and servers
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| 07:41:44 PM | mastermindzh | nasa runs linux
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| 07:41:48 PM | mastermindzh | for example
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| 07:41:52 PM | revdjenk | Mint! mastermindzh Mint!
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| 07:41:55 PM | TN_Frank | RobbieF We're doing the 2 hour show tonight, Right??
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| 07:42:02 PM | TN_Frank | :-D
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| 07:42:04 PM | mastermindzh | oh sorry, mint as well dos89 ;)
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| 07:42:16 PM | revdjenk | :)
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| 07:42:25 PM | tic-toc | one company ?
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| 07:42:31 PM | IMTech5 | mastermindz: Nice! All Linux...
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| 07:42:36 PM | _Jot_ | wow, Hillary actually has a life
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| 07:42:55 PM | mastermindzh | yes tic-toc, I work at one company. but I have worked for others as well.
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| 07:43:10 PM | mastermindzh | and I know loads of businesses actually use linux :)
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| 07:43:29 PM | TN_Frank | sudo apt-get install wine
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| 07:43:34 PM | mastermindzh | So saying linux isn't ready for the "enterprise" market is ridiculous
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| 07:43:48 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, don't forget winetricks ;)
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| 07:44:03 PM | TN_Frank | And that only works if they're on a Debian based OS
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| 07:44:22 PM | tic-toc | I have never walked into any major commercial business and seen one computer running any form of linux.
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| 07:44:22 PM | TN_Frank | You'd need yum or pacman for Fedora or Arch
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| 07:44:25 PM | mastermindzh | for rpm it would be yum TN_Frank, so "yum install wine"
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| 07:44:42 PM | TN_Frank | zupper is OpenSUSE IIRC
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| 07:45:01 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, I guess you haven't been in enough commercial businesses then ;)
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| 07:45:01 PM | mastermindzh | Besides, you having been in a business doesn't mean that that automatically is the standard either.
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| 07:45:07 PM | mastermindzh | zypper* TN_frank ;)
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| 07:45:07 PM | TN_Frank | Way too many terminal commands, should just dump everything but Debian. LOL:-D
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| 07:45:22 PM | tic-toc | Windows owns the enterprise market, it's just a fact
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| 07:45:25 PM | mastermindzh | for arch it's yaourt -Sb wine ;)
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| 07:45:30 PM | TN_Frank | apt-get is all ya' need, LOL
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| 07:45:35 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, any evidence to back it up?
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| 07:45:36 PM | tic-toc | like it or not
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| 07:45:45 PM | mastermindzh | so nasa isn't an enterprise?
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| 07:45:58 PM | mastermindzh | ubuntu is not a "commercial business"?
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| 07:46:03 PM | tic-toc | you're kidding right?
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| 07:46:09 PM | mastermindzh | those are 2 companies I can guarantee that are using linux ;)
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| 07:46:32 PM | _Jot_ | I'm pretty sure a t-shirt is one of the perks you can pledge for at http://cat5.tv/studio
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| 07:46:33 PM | mastermindzh | all website providers use linux, but hey those aren't businesses either right?
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| 07:46:51 PM | revdjenk | wow
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| 07:47:09 PM | tic-toc | I'm not defending or trying to knock any OS, those are just facts
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| 07:47:11 PM | mastermindzh | Too bad some episodes are only available on dvd though RobbieF, could you rip them and upload them after all ?
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| 07:47:17 PM | TN_Frank | RobbieF Yep, I love this place.
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| 07:47:26 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, thats why I am simply asking you to prove your "fact" ;)
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| 07:48:21 PM | TN_Frank | OK, what's a "CMS"??
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| 07:48:35 PM | GoodGuy | ntent Mgmt System
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| 07:48:37 PM | mastermindzh | Content management system, used to make building websites (and maintaining) them easier.
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| 07:48:37 PM | _Jot_ | Content Managment System
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| 07:48:45 PM | tic-toc | Please don't tell me you actually think linux has more computers in enterprise than Windows,
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| 07:48:49 PM | mastermindzh | wordpress, drupal and joomla are great examples.
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| 07:48:51 PM | TN_Frank | Ahh, ok, thanks. Still learning some of this stuff.
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| 07:49:19 PM | ShineShadow | Learning Management system
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| 07:49:32 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, if you count the servers then yes. if you don't then probably not. Though there are a great many business that do.
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| 07:49:34 PM | dos89 | Anyone tried Knoppix Linux?
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| 07:49:49 PM | mastermindzh | I have dos89, wouldn't recommend it for anything other than a rescue disk though.
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| 07:50:02 PM | tic-toc | I'm not talking about servers
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| 07:50:07 PM | ShineShadow | Is your CMS open source RobbieF?
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| 07:50:15 PM | ShineShadow | ooohhh closed :(
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| 07:50:25 PM | _Jot_ | ShineShadow, it isn't, because its property of his employer
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| 07:50:43 PM | tic-toc | I know linux has a lot of servers, I'm talking about enterprise users
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| 07:51:21 PM | TN_Frank | I think I know a bit about computers, Linux and stuff until I sit in the chat room and listen to some of ya'll talk about stuff like this. Then I feel like I don't know much at all.:'(
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| 07:51:51 PM | _Jot_ | Frank, everybody is welcome, and you know lots too, compared to others, you can't know everything after all
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| 07:52:13 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, you said: Linux is ok for a single user, but it simply cannot replace windows as a complete operating system especially for enterprise or businesses.
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| 07:52:13 PM | mastermindzh | Which would imply that linux is an inferior product that CANNOT replace windows. While in fact it CAN. users just don't want it. like you pointed out yourself ;)
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| 07:52:19 PM | TN_Frank | I am learning thanks to Category5 and other shows I've been watching.
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| 07:52:29 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: Google, Amazon, IBM, Facebook, US military all use Linux servers...would you include them in enterprise? Even MS has used Linux servers....
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| 07:52:44 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, you have learned loads about linux already, and there is way more to come :D
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| 07:52:55 PM | ShineShadow | LMS is what everyone in education calls it
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| 07:53:16 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, I don't think I'll ever stop learning. There's always something new to learn or a new way to do something.
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| 07:53:21 PM | mastermindzh | We're still missing you in chat during the week though!
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| 07:53:36 PM | mastermindzh | Thats the beauty of linux :D always going forward with cool stuff :D
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| 07:53:46 PM | tic-toc | I'm not talking about servers, Im talking end users for enterprise and software availability
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| 07:53:51 PM | revdjenk | hee hee RobbieF
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| 07:54:07 PM | revdjenk | and put down the anchor
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| 07:54:15 PM | dos89 | I really like RSS really helps
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| 07:54:18 PM | TN_Frank | Don't reinvent the wheel, invent the hover car and do away with the wheel all together.
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| 07:54:30 PM | oldhack | there is always moodle.org for an education CMS or LMS
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| 07:54:32 PM | revdjenk | parody disk
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| 07:54:35 PM | mastermindzh | again tic-toc, nasa uses SOLELY linux, so for their users as well. idk if the companies revdjenk mentioned use linux on the employees computers though.
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| 07:54:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes
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| 07:54:42 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes it is blue
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| 07:54:55 PM | mastermindzh | dos89, rss is great ;)
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| 07:54:57 PM | TN_Frank | Didn't Germany just convert completly over to Linux recently?
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| 07:55:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I can even us UBCD to use the tools to check it.
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| 07:55:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *Can't
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| 07:55:19 PM | mastermindzh | dos89, I like using "feedly" add on for firefox ;)
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| 07:55:24 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: portions, some of the cities and regions, not the whole country
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| 07:55:32 PM | TN_Frank | There's a lot of places moving away from Windows and going to Linux if for no other reason to get rid of Lic. Fees.
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| 07:55:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *USE
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| 07:55:47 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, indeed :)
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| 07:55:53 PM | oldhack | parroty drive
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| 07:55:56 PM | TN_Frank | revdjenk just give em' time. LOL
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| 07:56:13 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, and with steam coming to linux (well it's here already hehe) even some gamers will move over!
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| 07:56:19 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, unraid doesn't care what cable a drive is on, it checks by serial
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| 07:56:20 PM | tic-toc | If you guys really think more enterprise and businesses use linux than Windows, you have been smoking the crack pipe with Mayor Ford
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| 07:56:28 PM | revdjenk | pear o'tee
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| 07:56:28 PM | revdjenk | drive
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| 07:56:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF _ I will try!
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| 07:56:59 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, we didn't say that. in fact I know loads of companies still use windows.
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| 07:56:59 PM | mastermindzh | you stated that linux was not advanced enough to take over, which is false.
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| 07:57:04 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, Steam OS and the Steam Box is going to totally revolutionize the gaming industry. You'll actually be able to mod your Steam Box and upgrade it with new GPU's and stuff.
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| 07:57:11 PM | tic-toc | ya think?
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| 07:57:27 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, if you'd use linux for a year or so you'd know as well ;)
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| 07:57:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - I can Not use UBCD to even check the drive. Bios Does not see it
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| 07:57:32 PM | tic-toc | try over 90%
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| 07:57:43 PM | _Jot_ | TN_Frank, it's just a PC, it isn't a revolution
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| 07:57:56 PM | mastermindzh | yeah TN_Frank, and steam won't even make the box themselves. so other companies will probably jump on it too!
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| 07:57:59 PM | GoodGuy | If BIOS doesn't see it..bad news
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| 07:58:06 PM | tic-toc | I use linux, elementary OS
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| 07:58:09 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: because Linux isn't normally "bought" it is hard to discover how many servers are actually using it. You could judge by those buying service from RedHat, but not every one is doing that, even
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| 07:58:21 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF My unRAID is down right now until I fix it.
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| 07:58:28 PM | TN_Frank | _jot_ but it's the entire way they're doing it, you can mod your gaming box with Steam OS. You can't mod an XBox or PS4
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| 07:58:37 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, cool I'm using elementary as well lols.
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| 07:58:37 PM | mastermindzh | But your 90% is very specific, not validated, and simply not true either ;)
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| 07:59:16 PM | mastermindzh | I agree with TN_Frank, _jot_ it's an integrated solution. Which will appeal to many users.
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| 07:59:24 PM | _Jot_ | TN_Frank, but you can get a box with a pc and do that already, and you can also display stuff already on it that comes from another computer, so that isn't entirely new either. It's nice that it happens because it can mean something, but it isn't revolutionary
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| 07:59:48 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ but how many "regular" people want a near their tv?
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| 07:59:57 PM | mastermindzh | I can see them getting a steam box
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| 07:59:59 PM | GoodGuy | tell me about it. I wear a neck brace while on the PC
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| 08:00:04 PM | TN_Frank | You could even theoretically build a Steam Box from a desktop PC that you have sitting around if you want.
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| 08:00:19 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, depends on what it looks like, I think a lot of people do seeing how tablets are popular and netbooks were with them etc, just have to sell it
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| 08:00:44 PM | _Jot_ | They actually tried it before with computers looking like audio-furniture but somehow that didn't work and now most models are out of production
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| 08:00:44 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, agreed. but the steam box focuses on being in the living room. so it has to be small ;)
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| 08:01:00 PM | mastermindzh | yeah thats a pain, most of those smaller cases are awesome looking hehe
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| 08:01:47 PM | tic-toc | 90.54% use windows, 1.61% use linux, happy now?
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| 08:01:50 PM | revdjenk | the hour is over, already?? noooooo
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| 08:01:55 PM | TN_Frank | I don't game anymore so I'm really not into any box for gaming.
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| 08:01:57 PM | sovereign | a trackball may work
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| 08:01:57 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, check out the Thermaltake Element Q case. that's awesome
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| 08:01:59 PM | _Jot_ | there is a chance it may work again because now if you have cable or something you get a decoder-box you have to install so people might be willing to install another device
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| 08:02:13 PM | dos89 | Since Windows Xp will not be updated I will put Linux on them. Thanks guys for a great show and everyone's insight:;
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| 08:02:14 PM | TN_Frank | but if I could dual boot with Steam OS then I could have a regular PC and also have a gaming PC all in one.
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| 08:02:29 PM | revdjenk | tic-toc: those are the same %'s for super computers, but switch the OS's
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| 08:02:30 PM | ShineShadow | Hillary over-load :)
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| 08:02:33 PM | IMTech5 | Thanks Robbie and Hillary! Great show!
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| 08:02:35 PM | ShineShadow | love it
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| 08:02:37 PM | tic-toc | Oh and 7.73% use OSX
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| 08:02:37 PM | mastermindzh | tic-toc, it's still you saying that. and again, I don't disprove the fact that windows is used more. I'm just saying it could be easily replaced by linux as well.
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| 08:02:42 PM | mastermindzh | Thanks hillary and RobbieF ;)
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| 08:02:44 PM | revdjenk | g'nite
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| 08:02:45 PM | TN_Frank | Great Show RobbieF and Hillary.
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| 08:02:48 PM | ShineShadow | Thanks for naother great show guys :)
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| 08:02:52 PM | oldhack | thx Robbie and Hillary!
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| 08:03:06 PM | BobK54 | good show! nite all....
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| 08:03:07 PM | jblake58 | Great Show! Thanks!
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| 08:03:15 PM | tic-toc | That's just your opinion, I'm stating facts
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| 08:03:15 PM | robgor | thanks hills robbie great show
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| 08:03:16 PM | rats_ | Thanks hillary and RobbieF
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| 08:03:17 PM | TN_Frank | I think Windows is used as much as it is because it simply comes on the computer that you buy.
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| 08:03:19 PM | revdjenk | we can interact in the chat room? yay
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| 08:03:37 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, I have an Antec thing myself, I think it's called Antec Fusion or something
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| 08:03:40 PM | mastermindzh | yeah you can revdjenk, would be awesome if we saw you during the week as well :D
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| 08:03:42 PM | oldhack | l8r all
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| 08:03:59 PM | revdjenk | hee hee mastermindzh
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| 08:04:04 PM | revdjenk | I've had a busy week
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| 08:04:04 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, I googled that real quick. that looks awesome too! Do they still sell that?
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| 08:04:08 PM | TN_Frank | I'd bet if you'd give folks a choice of Windows 8.1 or a good Linux Distro they'd start to go Linux more and more.
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| 08:04:24 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, possibly, but it isn't on their website anymore so I don't think they make it anymore
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| 08:04:33 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, it's our job to bring attention to linux then :D
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| 08:04:47 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, I'm a Linux Preacher. LOL
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| 08:04:47 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, will do some searching around. Looks like a fine case. Is it loud?
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| 08:04:55 PM | mastermindzh | we know you are TN_Frank ;0
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| 08:05:04 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: I'm a Preacher using Linux
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| 08:05:17 PM | TN_Frank | Heck, I love Linux so much that I'm even totally over Apple now too.
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| 08:05:36 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, lemme guess. it's because everything apple does linux does better hehe?
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| 08:05:56 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, it is completely quiet for me, I have an asus e35m1-i deluxe motherboard in it, which does't require active cooling, so I have the fans on half but just for safety
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| 08:06:02 PM | TN_Frank | revdjenk Dr. Bill is also a Preacher of sorts, you should check out his show too if you get a chance.
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| 08:06:23 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, i've been eying an passivly cooled asus board with an amd c60 ;)
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| 08:06:24 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: he is "of sorts" isn't he!!??
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| 08:06:29 PM | TN_Frank | It's mostly because Apple costs so dang much. I loved my iMac but man, they're expensive.
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| 08:06:42 PM | GoodGuy | He has two PhD's in theology iirc
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| 08:06:54 PM | revdjenk | GoodGuy: really?
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| 08:07:03 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, if you subscribe to Dr. Bill's Roku channel you get a Bible study show as well,
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| 08:07:11 PM | GoodGuy | yes... he isn't a precher by trade though
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| 08:07:26 PM | GoodGuy | Works in IT at a large hospital
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| 08:07:30 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, they are awesome, I know you can get cheaper ones but with all the feautures it has I figured it was all I needed. Unfortunatly it doesn't run a lot of software, somehow many older software isn't compatible. Fortunatly the important stuff like media players etc are, but not many games
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| 08:07:33 PM | revdjenk | I've tried to get through some of his vids...
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| 08:07:55 PM | TN_Frank | Dr. Bill also has one in some IT position that's not given out anymore. Forget what it was but he mentioned it the other day on one of his shows.
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| 08:07:56 PM | GoodGuy | Strange personality, but I like him
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| 08:08:05 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ I need something to replace my HTPC though, it is strictly used for media streaming so it doesn't really need to be powerfull :)
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| 08:08:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - how do I find my actual IP address for command line
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| 08:08:20 PM | mastermindzh | Dennis_kelley: ifconfig ;)
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| 08:08:22 PM | TN_Frank | I like the way Dr. Bill says "Dude", reminds me of ME. :-D
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| 08:08:30 PM | GoodGuy | He works with VMware products and Citrix
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| 08:08:42 PM | mastermindzh | ifconfig and then look at the line that has "inet addr: number here"
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| 08:08:57 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, then such boards are excellent, I think the c60 has a videochip build in as well so for htpc it is excellent, it'll probably have hdmi on the board as well
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| 08:08:59 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: to the rescue
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| 08:09:08 PM | Dennis_Kelley | mastermindzh does that show my outside ip or my internal
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| 08:09:13 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, it does ;) that's why I want it hehe :P
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| 08:09:16 PM | GoodGuy | Go to Whatsmyip.com to get your external IP
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| 08:09:18 PM | mastermindzh | Dennis_kelley, inside
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| 08:09:26 PM | mastermindzh | yep what goodguy said :D
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| 08:09:37 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy - how do I find it from a command line
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| 08:09:40 PM | TN_Frank | Not to totally change the subject but I need to vent a little to the chat room. I got so mad at myself yesterday.
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| 08:09:41 PM | GoodGuy | ifconfig displays the internal ip on a LAN
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| 08:09:44 PM | _Jot_ | oh man, my IP is 127.0.0.1 I hope nobody will hack me now
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| 08:09:54 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ the case you have is micro atx isn't it?
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| 08:10:04 PM | mastermindzh | would give me more space to put a better pc in there hehe
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| 08:10:08 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, no, it is quite big, it is microatx
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| 08:10:15 PM | TN_Frank | We've needed a couple new panes of glass in our garage door for quite a while so I finally broke down and bought a sheet of plexiglass
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| 08:10:25 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ I said micro atx you dummy ;)
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| 08:10:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | mastermindzh - how do I find the external from a command line
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| 08:10:52 PM | revdjenk | your micro is big?
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| 08:10:55 PM | TN_Frank | I figured I could cut it with a jig saw and a fine blade, NOPE, wrong, cracked it and I basically threw $45 bucks down the toilette.
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| 08:10:58 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, so who accused me of being able to read :)
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| 08:11:26 PM | GoodGuy | You can try looking in the file .conkyrc if you have it on your system
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| 08:11:37 PM | _Jot_ | but it's a bit bigger than that becuase it also has space for a full power supply next to it with a divider between the board and the supply
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| 08:11:39 PM | TN_Frank | I got so mad at myself. We really didn't have that kind of money to waste. Now I'm just going to have to get some 1/8" ply wood and cut it to fit and we'll just do without the two windows in the garage door.
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| 08:11:49 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: yes, score and crack along a sharp edge.... like doing tile or glass
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| 08:11:50 PM | GoodGuy | They have a lookup procedure. but it may need work
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| 08:11:53 PM | TN_Frank | Anyway, that's my chat room confession for the night.
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| 08:12:03 PM | mastermindzh | I found it in the antec store :)
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| 08:12:09 PM | mastermindzh | 189.95 it says
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| 08:12:14 PM | revdjenk | I found that out making birdfeeder
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| 08:12:15 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, I found that out when I read the sticker on the plexiglass.:-(
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| 08:12:22 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, sounds about right :)
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| 08:12:29 PM | mastermindzh | dennis_kelley, not sure if you are able to.
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| 08:12:37 PM | mastermindzh | Using the website cmyip.org would be way easier.
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| 08:12:51 PM | mastermindzh | external ip is the same for every computer in the house so you can do it at any pc :)
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| 08:12:55 PM | TN_Frank | I just felt to totally stupid by not reading the sticker first, guess I AM a man after all.
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| 08:13:04 PM | revdjenk | TN_Frank: hee hee
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| 08:13:11 PM | TN_Frank | Don't read the instructions, just jump in and go to town.
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| 08:13:18 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, it comes with a display which makes it a bit more expensive, and it has a driver that antec hasn't upgraded but the company that makes it has gone up two or three versions but I don't even know the name or what you have to install now since I haven't used it in a while :)
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| 08:13:26 PM | TN_Frank | Then when it breaks read the instructions, LOL
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| 08:13:35 PM | GoodGuy | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1834608
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| 08:13:41 PM | revdjenk | yes, I tried a skilsaw, too, just made a lot of little pieces!
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| 08:13:47 PM | _Jot_ | Frank, you learned from RobbieF, he never reads instructions, blame him :)
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| 08:13:48 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_, I think I might order it :D
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| 08:13:58 PM | GoodGuy | take a look at that for external IP
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| 08:14:16 PM | mastermindzh | I noticed the screen yeah, would be fun if I could program that myself though :D
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| 08:14:20 PM | TN_Frank | _jot_ I can normally figure stuff out pretty well without reading them but in this case I really wish I had read them first.
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| 08:14:56 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, together with the C60 board it will be an excellent HTPC, comes with a good remove and everything and the display is actually useful, I have it set to the time normally but with video etc it is so helpful to see runtime without having to do weird stuff to the video
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| 08:15:22 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ yeah I noticed the remote
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| 08:15:26 PM | mastermindzh | don't like remotes though
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| 08:15:32 PM | mastermindzh | I have those tiny usb keyboard thingies
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| 08:15:40 PM | mastermindzh | I like having full control hehe
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| 08:16:29 PM | _Jot_ | you don't have to use a remove if you don't want to, but you can :) normally with most of these you need to have a usb receiver that you plug in and that you have to lay down somewhere but since it's build in there's nothing sticking out etc
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| 08:16:42 PM | mastermindzh | I use these: http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00tedQYFkJQyqw/Bluetooth-Wireless-Mini-Keyboard-With-Touchpad-S-KW252TB-.jpg
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| 08:16:47 PM | TN_Frank | On a totally different subject. Moving to Google Plus and Hangouts and Video Chat(not a Hangout Video Chat) I have a question.
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| 08:17:00 PM | mastermindzh | different brand though, but similar in design. it comes with a VERY tiny usb receiver ;)
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| 08:17:21 PM | TN_Frank | I remember RobbieF saying that when you're in a Hangout Video Chat that folks on YouTube can watch you but can't join in.
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| 08:17:29 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/linux-get-ip-address/
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| 08:17:36 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, only if you broadcast it :)
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| 08:17:42 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, the board I have has bluetooth build in, which is why it has one USB less than the less deluxe versions, so that would work too :)
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| 08:17:51 PM | TN_Frank | So, if I call my buddie and we're in a Video Chat via Hangouts then it's private, right.
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| 08:17:58 PM | mastermindzh | yes TN_Frank.
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| 08:18:09 PM | _Jot_ | Frank, it should be, but google has made mistakes with that before
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| 08:18:10 PM | TN_Frank | Ahh, ok, so you have to Broadcast the chat for folks on YouTube to watch. Got it.
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| 08:18:28 PM | TN_Frank | And of course we all know that the NSA is Always Watchin'.
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| 08:18:31 PM | mastermindzh | _Jot_ those extras are cool, I'd be getting it based on the look though :D
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| 08:18:43 PM | mastermindzh | TN_Frank, yeah nothing you can doa bout that :P
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| 08:19:07 PM | TN_Frank | mastermindzh Yep, not even moving to another Country will help.
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| 08:19:12 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, yeah, it's really nice, a bit bright but you can disconnect the leds and dim the display a little and that isn't too bad really
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| 08:19:43 PM | mastermindzh | I plan on changing the led's though
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| 08:19:49 PM | mastermindzh | Everything else I own is black / red
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| 08:19:49 PM | mastermindzh | :p
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| 08:19:57 PM | mastermindzh | so it would have to be red anyways ;)
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| 08:20:11 PM | _Jot_ | it's not red, it's white or blue like most things these days
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| 08:20:29 PM | mastermindzh | Yeah I know, thats why I will have to change the colour of it hehe
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| 08:20:48 PM | robgor | anyone using a folio case with a keyboard on a android tablet?
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| 08:20:50 PM | _Jot_ | I really don't get why they went 'oh look, we can make blue now, let's put it in everything' and still do instead of more varied colours so you can tell status more easily
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| 08:21:16 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ I know right, same with their other cases
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| 08:21:18 PM | mastermindzh | all blue fans
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| 08:21:31 PM | mastermindzh | getting rgb LED's isn't even that much more expensive
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| 08:21:49 PM | TN_Frank | robgor Dr.Bill was using some kind of case with a keyboard with his Nexus 10. Looked pretty cool.
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| 08:22:03 PM | _Jot_ | no, but rgb leds cost more resources to program
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| 08:22:25 PM | mastermindzh | robgor, I stricly use tablets for development purposes so they don't have a case hehe
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| 08:22:30 PM | TN_Frank | I forget which one it was though. If I ever got a tablet I'd for sure get a case with a bluetooth keyboard, seems like it'd be a lot easier to type with.
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| 08:22:33 PM | robgor | yeah just wanted to know if it clicks into the tablet like the surface or is seperate
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| 08:22:50 PM | TN_Frank | robgor the one I saw was bluetooth.
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| 08:22:52 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ well, there are like a million really cheap ic's that you could get to do that though
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| 08:23:14 PM | _Jot_ | mastermindzh, yeah, but they require 3 pins per led instead of 1
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| 08:23:45 PM | mastermindzh | thats true
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| 08:23:53 PM | mastermindzh | but still, wouldn't be that much more expensive
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| 08:24:02 PM | mastermindzh | and it would be so awesome hehe
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| 08:24:06 PM | _Jot_ | no, but it does add up quickly :)
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| 08:24:10 PM | mastermindzh | now I basically have to replace all LED's
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| 08:24:25 PM | mastermindzh | They can charge 5 bucks more for the mutlicolored display hehe
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| 08:24:29 PM | GoodGuy | Asus Transformer has a dock with keyboard
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| 08:24:30 PM | robgor | mastermindzh was going to get my sister a tablet for xmas but she wants a keyboard, trying to get her off windows, which really what she uses her old laptop for she doesnt need it, plus she has limited internet per month so never upto date with her security updates etc
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| 08:24:55 PM | mastermindzh | robgor, getting people to linux is always awesome hehe
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| 08:24:56 PM | _Jot_ | I'm not sure how easy it will be to replace the leds, I think I looked into opening it, but decided not to becuase I didn't want to risk it
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| 08:25:19 PM | mastermindzh | _jot_ I'll risk it , quite good with electronics ;) besides if it breaks it breaks hehe
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| 08:25:23 PM | TN_Frank | There's quite a few cases with bluetooth keyboards for most popular tablets.
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| 08:25:24 PM | _Jot_ | mostly becuase if you fit it together and it doesn't fit exactly right you get noise or vibration or stuff etc
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| 08:25:31 PM | GoodGuy | logitech sells bluetooth keyboards for tablets... iPad for sure and I think Android
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| 08:25:54 PM | robgor | mastermindzh yeah I just put linux on my parents pc moved off from windows 7
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| 08:25:55 PM | TN_Frank | Just whatever you do don't go Surface RT, from all I've read they're total junk.
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| 08:25:56 PM | mastermindzh | _Jot_ I'll probably end up replacing most parts with high quality stuff after opening it anyways hehe
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| 08:26:07 PM | GoodGuy | Linux Action Show host showed a case with a keyboard, but it was quite a few months ago
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| 08:26:08 PM | mastermindzh | cool robgor :D
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| 08:26:17 PM | mastermindzh | I moved my dad over a few months ago
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| 08:26:20 PM | robgor | more people off windows the less issues I have to deal with
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| 08:26:34 PM | TN_Frank | Here and LAS are the only two chat rooms that I'm on.
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| 08:26:39 PM | mastermindzh | I didn't want to do it at first, because he doesn't really pick stuff up all that quickly. But he seems to be doing really well.
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| 08:26:51 PM | TN_Frank | Of course on Roku I watch a few other tech shows.
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| 08:27:37 PM | TN_Frank | Have you checked out EBay robgor??
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| 08:27:58 PM | robgor | TN_Frank the surface the hardware seems ok its just the os thats junk
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| 08:27:59 PM | TN_Frank | You might find something on EBay that'd work well, even get a small laptop and install LInux on it for her.
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| 08:28:28 PM | TN_Frank | robgor, yep, it's a stripped down version of the OS so you can't run "regular" Win8 stuff on it.
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| 08:28:40 PM | _Jot_ | we need to get RobbieF on linux cause he seems to have so much trouble with windows
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| 08:28:41 PM | robgor | ok
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| 08:29:05 PM | robgor | the chromebook would be ok if it wasnt so underpowered
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| 08:29:18 PM | TN_Frank | _jot_ I think now that RobbieF has Classic Shell he'll be ok with his Windows 8.1 set up. LOL
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| 08:29:40 PM | mastermindzh | Well guys, I'm going to get off now :D
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| 08:29:42 PM | revdjenk | hey gotta go...laters
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| 08:29:45 PM | mastermindzh | have to be at work in about 3 hours lols
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| 08:29:49 PM | TN_Frank | C ya' later mastermindzh
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| 08:29:50 PM | mastermindzh | gotta get some sleep in :D
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| 08:29:53 PM | TN_Frank | Have a good one pard.
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| 08:29:55 PM | revdjenk | mastermindzh: bye
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| 08:29:59 PM | mastermindzh | cya all tomorrow :D
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| 08:30:08 PM | mastermindzh | thanks for the info about the case _jot_
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| 08:30:19 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/how-replace-your-desktop-android-tablet
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| 08:30:38 PM | GoodGuy | That article discusses a tablet holder and kb
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| 08:30:53 PM | TN_Frank | robgor seems like one of the dual core Atom N450 netbooks would run a light version of Linux ok if you max out the RAM to the full 2GB.
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| 08:31:08 PM | robgor | well Iam glad that my sister doesnt watch cat5, because I know she wont like win8, which hopefully will make it easier for me to get her onto linux
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| 08:31:11 PM | GoodGuy | I opted to use the Bluetooth Logitech Tablet Keyboard. It's full-sized, portable, has a great feel and comes with a nice stand to put your tablet on, effectively turning your tablet into an uber-portable, modular laptop.
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| 08:31:24 PM | TN_Frank | Sure, it'd not be the fasted kid on the block but still, power consumption would be next to nothing and it should be ok for surfing the web.
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| 08:31:56 PM | robgor | TN Frank I want to stay away from the Atom because if its slow it will put my sister off linux
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| 08:32:11 PM | robgor | which it will be
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| 08:32:28 PM | TN_Frank | Intel has a new version of the Atom(forget what they're calling it) but it's suppose to be a lot better then the older ones.
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| 08:33:22 PM | TN_Frank | My old HP nc6400's are running pretty good for being only a Core Duo 1.83GHz processor and only having 2GB of RAM.
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| 08:33:25 PM | _Jot_ | maybe they are calling it an Intel Atom :P
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| 08:34:00 PM | TN_Frank | _jot_ nope, they've got a new name for it, It's in Maximum PC, forget which issue, one of the newer ones.
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| 08:34:18 PM | TN_Frank | I could run into the living room and get it if you want.
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| 08:34:23 PM | TN_Frank | brb
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| 08:34:53 PM | robgor | hmm another thing I need to find out is if I remove windows and replace linux on it will it void the warranty
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| 08:35:43 PM | _Jot_ | it shouldn't, but make sure to check
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| 08:36:14 PM | TN_Frank | I'd risk it to get rid of Windows.:-D
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| 08:36:21 PM | _Jot_ | and even if it doesn,t it can be troublesome if the person doing warranty doesn't understand what linux is :)
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| 08:36:58 PM | _Jot_ | they are fortunatly getting better at that sort of thing, but since it still happens a lot, I figure I'd say it
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| 08:37:19 PM | TN_Frank | The Atom chip is code named "Bay Trail"
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| 08:37:51 PM | robgor | if the shipping wasnt so much I could get a laptop from system76 they
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| 08:38:17 PM | _Jot_ | Frank, that's just the code name the actual chips are called the usual pentium, atom and celeron names
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| 08:38:25 PM | _Jot_ | http://ark.intel.com/nl/products/codename/55844/Bay-Trail
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| 08:38:26 PM | TN_Frank | Looks pretty decent too, Quad core, 1.4-2.4Ghz
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| 08:38:41 PM | TN_Frank | 22nm die.
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| 08:38:51 PM | robgor | yeah they got that on a tablet asus transformer Book T100
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| 08:39:24 PM | GoodGuy | night all
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| 08:39:26 PM | TN_Frank | ups, my bad, process is 22nm, the die size isn't listed
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| 08:39:30 PM | TN_Frank | Suppose to blow the ARM out of the water.
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| 08:39:44 PM | robgor | but for that price I can get an i5 laptop
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| 08:39:54 PM | _Jot_ | arm works completely different from how x86 does things so it isn't easily comparible
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| 08:40:18 PM | oaesystemstech | oaesystemstech Oceanside CA
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| 08:40:24 PM | TN_Frank | I don't know if you want to buy new or used robgor but personally you can get get some really great deals if you buy used.
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| 08:40:44 PM | robgor | I prefer to get new
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| 08:41:04 PM | TN_Frank | I picked up my HP nc6400's for $60 U.S. each, that's why I could afford to get 3 of em'.
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| 08:41:12 PM | _Jot_ | oasystemstch, is that California, or Canada?
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| 08:41:32 PM | TN_Frank | Oceanside is in Calif.
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| 08:41:39 PM | _Jot_ | ah, I had no idea :)
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| 08:42:08 PM | TN_Frank | I know, with the show being broadcast from Canada, it could go either way sometimes.
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| 08:42:38 PM | oaesystemstech | Faught the slow windows system to log in and finally get on to listen and make dinner...
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| 08:42:44 PM | _Jot_ | here we don't even use provinces, I mean, we have them, but since we have almost no places with the same name, there is no need for it almost always
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| 08:43:20 PM | _Jot_ | great you made it oaesystemstech, and of course you can download the episode shortly in many qualities
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| 08:43:29 PM | TN_Frank | So it's just like Vancouver B.C. or would you also add in the Canada to that??
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| 08:43:35 PM | robgor | yeah problem for me getting stuff outside Australia is the shipping, that vegemite that I sent to robbie cost me $28 to post, so imagine how much a laptop would be, so after shipping I might not save and maybe better getting local
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| 08:44:24 PM | _Jot_ | robgor, somebody could smash up the laptop in many tiny pieces and then take those all together so it takes up less space and is cheaper, that would work
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| 08:44:28 PM | TN_Frank | robgor I had a guy that was interested in a couple harmonicas that I had for sale, he lived in Australia and it would have cost twice as much on shipping as the harmonicas would cost.
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| 08:45:04 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, hey, a Laptop Kit.
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| 08:45:19 PM | TN_Frank | Just glue the pieces back together and bingo, you've got a laptop.
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| 08:45:57 PM | robgor | yeah TN Frank I got a panel from the UK for a car Iam restoring and the shipping was more than the panel almost double
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| 08:46:21 PM | TN_Frank | That's just crazy. But it's the cost of doin' business I guess.
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| 08:46:36 PM | _Jot_ | was it okay and not damaged and such? I remember you being a bit afraid of that
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| 08:46:58 PM | robgor | hmm TN Frank I want it for this xmas not next xmas
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| 08:47:32 PM | robgor | yeah well one was ok and another was damaged
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| 08:47:37 PM | TN_Frank | Just over a month left before Christmas. We need to help ya' find a solution to this "problem"
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| 08:48:06 PM | TN_Frank | I know Dr. Bill really talks up his Nexus 10 tablet on his show.
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| 08:48:09 PM | robgor | thing is they were the last ones available also so couldnt get another
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| 08:48:53 PM | RobbieF | hey folks
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| 08:48:54 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 08:49:11 PM | TN_Frank | robgor if you ever need car parts/panels, doors, ect. you should really give Arizona a try, they'd be pretty much rust free
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| 08:49:19 PM | TN_Frank | Howdy RobbieF. We're all still here.
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| 08:49:22 PM | robgor | yeah I got a note 10.1 great tablet, for a tablet I wouldnt get anything less than a quad core, I
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| 08:49:41 PM | TN_Frank | Do those have Snapdragon's like the phones??
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| 08:49:50 PM | robgor | TN Frank dont think the would have it have you heard of Ford Cortinas?
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| 08:50:10 PM | TN_Frank | Isn't the Cortinas like the Comet??
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| 08:50:38 PM | TN_Frank | I know Ford has a few cars that are similar from "down under" and "up over" LOL
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| 08:51:39 PM | robgor | no it origionally was made in the UK but also made in Australia and other countries, the USA only got the MK1 and MK2 cortina I think
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| 08:52:09 PM | TN_Frank | Ahh, so it's one of those special cars that we really didn't get many of here in the U.S. then.
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| 08:52:25 PM | robgor | comet is a bigger car sorta like a falcon
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| 08:52:49 PM | TN_Frank | Yep, Mecury Comet and Ford Falcon is the same car except for the badging.
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| 08:53:58 PM | robgor | TN_Frank http://www.rarespares.net.au/Gallery/GalleryItem.aspx?id=794 thats an example of the model I have
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| 08:54:46 PM | TN_Frank | Almost(and notice I said "almost") looks like a Maverick.
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| 08:55:10 PM | TN_Frank | My buddy in AZ. had a Maverick Grabber with a wicked fast 302 in it.
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| 08:55:54 PM | TN_Frank | I'd say it was as quick as my V8 S-10 Chevy is and that's quick.
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| 08:56:40 PM | robgor | yeah maverick probably bigger, cortina is around the capri size I would say
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| 08:57:06 PM | TN_Frank | Ok, yep, I had a Capri, they're quite a bit smaller then the Maverick.
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| 08:57:26 PM | robgor | what year was your capri
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| 08:58:21 PM | TN_Frank | Oh gosh, I really can't remember to tell you the truth. It was one of those cars that I only had for a few months then I sold it to get into something else. Late 70's, maybe early 80's I guess.
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| 08:58:52 PM | TN_Frank | I also had a Ford Tempo, that was an '86 IIRC
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| 08:59:31 PM | TN_Frank | I've gone through so many cars and trucks over my lifetime I have a hard time remembering most of them
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| 08:59:41 PM | TN_Frank | I do remember my first though, it was a '66 Mustang.
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| 09:00:02 PM | robgor | nice coupe or fastback
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| 09:00:15 PM | TN_Frank | Coupe, 289, C4 trans
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| 09:00:32 PM | TN_Frank | 2.73:1 gears so it was a real dog off the line though.
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| 09:02:24 PM | robgor | yeah well Ive only had 2 cars well 2 that have been driven had heaps of parts cars, the first was a cortina which I kept the front and converted into a bbq, current one is a 2001 Falcon
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| 09:03:09 PM | TN_Frank | LOL, that's funny to hear you say "2001 Falcon" since we've not had Falcons made in the U.S. since the '60's
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| 09:04:16 PM | robgor | yeah well still have them, will have them untill 2016 which is when ford closes local manufacturing in Australia :(
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| 09:04:28 PM | TN_Frank | :-(
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| 09:05:50 PM | TN_Frank | I'm going to have to get rid of my truck, it's just not practical. I love it, it's uber quick but it only gets around 14mpg and it needs new tires and could really use a Limited Slip rear axle to help it hook all the power it has to the road. One wheel just ain't cutting it with all that power. :-/
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| 09:05:56 PM | robgor | Holden (G |
| 09:06:16 PM | _Jot_ | cars will be really expensive then with shipping costs
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| 09:06:17 PM | TN_Frank | I'll probably end up with a full size Chevy short bed or maybe an extended cab S-10 with a V6.
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| 09:06:44 PM | robgor | no Jot thats the problem cheap crap imports
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| 09:07:06 PM | robgor | we are even getting chinese made cars now
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| 09:07:16 PM | TN_Frank | Funny thing, "Imports" here in the U.S. are mostly made here in the U.S. now.
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| 09:07:42 PM | TN_Frank | Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, a few others that escape my mind right now.
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| 09:08:15 PM | TN_Frank | Those are called the "Ding, Pow" because that's the sound they make when the motor lets go, LOL
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| 09:09:02 PM | TN_Frank | Hey, the World needs something to replace the Yugo, guess China will step up to fill the bill.
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| 09:11:02 PM | TN_Frank | Well, heck. It's been fun but I need to get off here and get a cup of tea and some fruit cake.
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| 09:11:15 PM | TN_Frank | I'll catch ya'll later on. Take care everyone and keep on keepin' on.
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| 09:16:19 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, am I supposed to see a fire in that corner over there?
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| 09:17:44 PM | RobbieF | not quite yet _Jot_ :) The lights keep it warm enough in here :)
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| 09:17:49 PM | RobbieF | it's just now cooling down
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| 09:18:23 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, good, since there isn't one but it did wake you up since you were falling asleep
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