Chat Logs for Episode 327 — #Category5 on /


With 65 Posts:RobbieF
With 54 Posts:_Jot_
With 47 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 26 Posts:Garbee
With 19 Posts:IMTech5

Chat Logs:

06:59:22 PMJaePea forgot how good robbie sings
06:59:56 PM_Jot_ youtube under 1 minute, VLC right after that too
07:00:07 PMMike69de wow....
07:00:07 PMMike69de christmas song :-)
07:00:07 PMMike69de I'm impressed.... Robbie is also a great singer...:-)
07:00:07 PMIMTech5 Hi JaePea.
07:00:07 PMIMTech5 Very nice!!!
07:00:07 PMMike69de I had no clue... wow...
07:00:07 PMIMTech5 Applause....
07:00:42 PMJaePea hi hi
07:00:54 PMIMTech5 Hi Robbie! Hi Sasha!
07:01:57 PM_Jot_ radio titles mark
07:03:31 PMrobgor hey guys
07:03:38 PMinvinciblemutant merry xmas
07:03:40 PMIMTech5 Hi robgor
07:04:01 PMIMTech5 X-mas...
07:04:16 PMinvinciblemutant is it live now
07:04:18 PMinvinciblemutant cant see it
07:04:23 PMinvinciblemutant cant see
07:04:25 PMJaePea hi robgor
07:05:18 PMIMTech5 invinciblemutant: I'm good here.
07:05:33 PM_Jot_ Dale, you are very echoy
07:06:31 PMrobgor merry xmas all hope santa was good to all
07:06:45 PM_Jot_ a lot better RobbieF, good going
07:07:06 PMinvinciblemutant show strts in 1.5 hours
07:07:16 PMinvinciblemutant is it a recorded show again this time?
07:07:16 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, that was 1.5 hours ago
07:07:25 PM_Jot_ no, it's live
07:07:34 PMIMTech5 No it's live...
07:07:41 PMGWG How do you pronounce Phuket?
07:07:50 PM_Jot_ puck-et
07:08:00 PMDreamer__ pooh ket
07:08:09 PMinvinciblemutant ic...
07:08:24 PMinvinciblemutant i need to slide the video to the right
07:08:28 PMinvinciblemutant now i see it
07:08:38 PMIMTech5 Good...
07:09:16 PMinvinciblemutant i hope that i am watching it realtime
07:09:29 PMinvinciblemutant is it on AMMYY web side now?
07:09:42 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, if you are seeing a website playing an audio file right now, you're at the right time
07:10:16 PMinvinciblemutant Windows screen now
07:10:29 PMIMTech5 You are good invinciblemutant...
07:10:52 PMinvinciblemutant cool
07:11:00 PMDreamer__ I have spoken to these type of people before, I tried to waste their type but they just hung on me :)
07:11:07 PMinvinciblemutant i am sorry, i struggle with the indian accent
07:11:23 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, everybody has :)
07:12:24 PMSovereign Thi is a vm?
07:12:25 PMpyrosrock i think he is quite easy to understand
07:12:38 PM_Jot_ I mean, it's a technique they use, to make you pay attention to them
07:12:50 PMDreamer__ as if the windows event viewer has EVER been helpful to ANYONE lol
07:12:59 PMIMTech5 LOL!
07:13:03 PM_Jot_ it has helped me fix errors :)
07:13:54 PMinvinciblemutant hackers never use a good mic
07:15:31 PMDreamer__ as if MS would EVER provide FREE tech support LOL
07:15:51 PM_Jot_ SashaD not in the chatroom?
07:16:45 PM_Jot_ Anyway, as soon as somebody is in your machine like that, it isn't your machine anymore, it is the machine of the cracker/criminal/terrorist, the only reason you can still use it, is because if they break it, you are more likely to get it fixed and get their control removed
07:17:45 PMinvinciblemutant lol...intelligent may come to you on a few minutes...
07:17:52 PMIMTech5 True!
07:18:56 PM_Jot_ it's 0:18 there RobbieF
07:20:20 PMinvinciblemutant scrary
07:23:00 PMinvinciblemutant any hacker in the room, please call me now...:P
07:23:34 PMIMTech5 Call invinciblemutant.... not me. lol. :)
07:23:41 PMRobbieF _Jot_ that was :18:00?
07:24:04 PM_Jot_ yep, that was when what's her name (not sasha) started talking, etc
07:24:17 PMinvinciblemutant it is odd, why the hosts are not in costumes?
07:24:39 PM_Jot_ aren't they? I thought SashaD was in a RobbieF costume and the other way around
07:24:41 PMinvinciblemutant it is unusual on xmas day
07:25:12 PMIMTech5 _Jot_: LOL!!!
07:25:18 PMRobbieF invinciblemutant: ah... it's just Christmas Eve here! Sorry to disappoint :) I thought about dressing up, but ... we have a tiny tree :)
07:25:39 PMinvinciblemutant oh yea...
07:25:44 PMinvinciblemutant it is already xmas day here
07:25:45 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, don't be so down on yourself! You may be wooden, but you're not that tiny
07:25:46 PMRobbieF Greetings all. Hi robgor - hope you're well!
07:26:02 PMRobbieF I just realized that invinciblemutant - Merry Christmas!!
07:26:29 PMinvinciblemutant Dale's time too...
07:27:00 PM_Jot_ yep, and mine :P
07:27:04 PMIMTech5 Thanks Dale!
07:27:10 PMinvinciblemutant merry xmas
07:27:11 PMSubliminalHack Merry Christmas everyone :)
07:27:22 PM_Jot_ merry christmas to everyone :)
07:27:22 PMinvinciblemutant lol...just realise the little xmas tree
07:27:29 PMRobbieF Thanks SubliminalHack - great job!
07:27:46 PMinvinciblemutant was blocked by the guest overlayed screen
07:27:52 PMSubliminalHack Cheers RobbieF , thanks again for having me on the show.
07:27:57 PMrobgor damn internet cant watch video.
07:28:18 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: use firefox
07:28:22 PMRobbieF robgor - this is worse than we had ever imagined! Surgery went well, I trust... but NO INTERNET VIDEO?!
07:28:36 PMJaePea happy hoho robbief
07:28:38 PM_Jot_ robgor, does at least the radio work?
07:28:40 PMRobbieF SubliminalHack - our pleasure.
07:28:44 PMinvinciblemutant in the future, videos might be safe to watch
07:28:46 PMRobbieF You too JaePea
07:29:13 PMinvinciblemutant so too
07:29:24 PMinvinciblemutant virus embeded in videos
07:30:21 PMRobbieF Cash monies for da viewers!
07:30:22 PM_Jot_ that's old :) directly as well as a video being encoded so the player claims to need a different decoder, and then going to the site the video says downloading malware instead
07:31:00 PM_Jot_ darn RobbieF! Drawbot was so looking forward to wish me a happy christmas!
07:31:07 PMrobgor jot audio is working well, surgery went well robbief
07:31:12 PMRobbieF :P
07:31:23 PMSovereign You can buy eset
07:31:27 PMRobbieF robgor - I'm so glad to hear that. At least one prayer went up for you from here :)
07:31:30 PMSovereign almost
07:31:40 PM_Jot_ To win the gift card, email and in the title specify 'ballot' and in the message put your registered user name (the one you got for free on
07:31:41 PMRobbieF Sovereign: would that cause a rift in the space-time continuum?
07:31:55 PMinvinciblemutant case sensitive? Ballot? BALLOT
07:31:56 PMinvinciblemutant ?
07:32:11 PMRobbieF however you say it, I'll cast it
07:32:14 PMrobgor robbief should be out friday my time which is saturday canada time
07:32:24 PMRobbieF Wow robgor - that's great news!
07:33:47 PMJaePea robbief will a ecard work =]
07:33:52 PMSovereign Robbie I didn't even need av protection untill you told me I needed it
07:34:32 PMinvinciblemutant i just wonder, you will need the thing you buy with one's card
07:34:39 PMrobgor yeah great news. yeah they are forcing users to use pins for cards here in oz, atm it sign or pin.
07:34:41 PMinvinciblemutant you will need to reveal your postal address right?
07:35:04 PM_Jot_ If you want to help RobbieF without getting scammed, you can! go to and pledge (or if you don't want a giftcard, go to )
07:35:55 PMrobgor dont have credit card only debit card.
07:36:22 PMIMTech5 RobbieF: LOL!
07:36:33 PMSovereign Debit cards are not insured are they
07:37:13 PMRobbieF if you win, you need to send me (personally) your mailing address, yes. The cards are coming directly from me though, not ESET (they left them here when they visited the other week)
07:37:13 PM_Jot_ depends on what happens, if you aren't responsible with it, they are not, if you are and it gets stolen and there is nothing you could do about it, you get your money back
07:37:28 PMrobgor had a xray today they had xp on one of the computer screens, scary.
07:37:45 PMRobbieF yeah, you're trusting your life to that stuff robgor :)
07:38:30 PMRobbieF always fun in the hospital with XP: Press CTRL-ALT-RIGHT ARROW
07:38:36 PM_Jot_ usually it is only the viewing computer that runs windows, and the machine itsself runs a more limited tested version
07:38:37 PMrobgor l tried chromeos not bad if you mainlly use online stuff
07:38:41 PMRobbieF nurses don't generally know how to reorient the monitors
07:38:45 PMinvinciblemutant why not use cloud computers
07:39:16 PMrobgor robbief l said l hope they update the pc soom
07:39:36 PMRobbieF before they shut off security fixes and someone exploits all the hospital computers? Yeah, good idea.
07:40:09 PMJaePea anything is cheaper than apple
07:40:56 PMinvinciblemutant yea, any car is cheaper than ferrarri...
07:41:16 PMrobgor robbief did sasha get a pc from santa
07:41:46 PMRobbieF she doesn't know yet robgor
07:41:49 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I hope SashaD isn't really that dumb. Nobody saw a problem with registering they were a jew, or christian,etc before the 2nd world war either. Now porn-users (and those who turn it off for sexual education) risk the same situations in the future
07:42:05 PMSovereign My sister wants to block cartoon network, her grand kid wakes up and watch adult swim
07:43:13 PMinvinciblemutant would xmas be fun with virutal stuff
07:43:28 PMinvinciblemutant no more boxing day in the future
07:43:46 PMSovereign Google is scary
07:43:50 PMinvinciblemutant what if you parents tell you that i have a give for you in the cloud...
07:44:11 PMinvinciblemutant get it from the cloud...more boxes under the trees
07:44:18 PMinvinciblemutant no more boxes
07:44:53 PMrobgor robbief think l saw a google quad bike driving down the street when l was visiting my sister a few weeks ago
07:45:02 PMJaePea opendns works to block sites
07:46:52 PM_Jot_ oh no, not the toaster again *sigh* well, merry chrismtas to you too toaster
07:47:34 PM_Jot_ I hope they knew I was just making a joke
07:47:57 PMJaePea i want a cat5 sticker
07:48:29 PM_Jot_ JaePea, obviously since the kickstarter ended, right now you can't get one. But who knows what the future may help *uche*cat5shop*uche*
07:48:57 PMinvinciblemutant out of the blue
07:49:27 PMGarbee uh-oh.
07:49:30 PMGarbee Another laugh fest.
07:49:33 PMJaePea i hope
07:49:35 PMinvinciblemutant oh no works
07:49:38 PMGarbee Just like the clouds again with RachelXu.
07:50:27 PMinvinciblemutant dmesg is the faster way to get the messages
07:50:28 PMtic-toc data was the problem
07:51:18 PMinvinciblemutant i think should check your group before adding that it
07:52:28 PMinvinciblemutant musical box stuff
07:54:41 PMMike69de i think thats it :
07:58:35 PM_Jot_ yay robgor :)
07:59:31 PMRafyCruzMiller Merry christmas
07:59:32 PMIMTech5 Get better robgor...
07:59:34 PMinvinciblemutant yay
07:59:48 PMIMTech5 Great show as always! Thanks RobbieF and Sasha!
08:00:02 PMIMTech5 Merry X-mas everyone!
08:00:07 PMRobbieF IMTech5 - thanks. Glad you enjoyed the show! Merry Christmas!
08:00:15 PMtic-toc Merry Christmas to all
08:00:17 PMRobbieF Merry Christmas everyone. Thanks for joining us tonight.
08:00:28 PMMike69de Thaaaanks ... have a wonderfull christmas time :-)
08:01:39 PMpyrosrock the bits i saw were awesome thanks RobbieF unfortunatly missed some of it cause its chrismas morning here
08:02:10 PMRobbieF I understand :) Thanks for being here :)
08:02:14 PMRobbieF Merry Christmas
08:02:39 PMRobbieF Enjoy the re-cast of the Christmas Musical Special :)
08:02:49 PMABQTKY So, RobbieF - did I d/l those WebDev files from a slow CDN or the super duper one?? (Those poor little kids!)
08:02:50 PMRobbieF time for me to go wrap gifts! LOL
08:02:56 PM_Jot_ you know, that special seems very familiar
08:03:03 PMRobbieF ABQTKY from the "slow" / cheap one
08:03:14 PMRobbieF the fast / expensive one only gives the last 5 episodes now
08:03:17 PMABQTKY Phwew!!
08:03:20 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I cast my ballot, just like you asked :)
08:03:26 PMRobbieF cheers
08:03:29 PMRobbieF and good luck
08:03:38 PM_Jot_ just don't hate me :)
08:03:49 PMJaePea double dose of sasha =]
08:04:01 PMRobbieF Proud to say: I have lost some weight since this episode :)
08:04:04 PM_Jot_ not just Sasha :)
08:04:14 PMRobbieF Way to go, me! :)
08:04:32 PM_Jot_ good RobbieF, weighing isn't bad, but too much isn't good
08:04:40 PMRobbieF Abigail on the other hand, is roughly 7 months pregnant right now...
08:05:00 PM_Jot_ I hope she's having a merry christmas and feeling okay
08:07:43 PM_Jot_ this is a nice christmas special :)
08:07:51 PMSubliminalHack Time I got some sleep before Santa arrives :) Thanks again for having me on the show, I hope the viewers enjoy the video and any questions hit me up on Twitter @subliminalhack
08:08:00 PM_Jot_ have a good sleep Dale
08:08:15 PMSubliminalHack Cheers _Jot_ bye for now
08:09:17 PMGWG I just got off work early. What did I miss?
08:09:43 PMRobbieF night SubliminalHack
08:09:45 PMRobbieF thanks again
08:09:48 PMRobbieF Merry Christmas
08:09:52 PM_Jot_ let me call you and give me your creditcard details and I'll tell you all about it GWG :)
08:10:05 PMGWG _Jot_: Have you been working for Microsoft?
08:10:25 PMMike69de allright.... time for bed now... 2:09 AM.. good nite and merry Xmas :-)
08:10:36 PM_Jot_ GWG, no, no, I solve problems for those who have issues with that :)
08:10:44 PMRobbieF you too Mike69de
08:11:14 PMMike69de :-)
08:11:16 PM_Jot_ GWG, I mean, if you use windows, you find a lot of errors and things, and that is not good! So you should download this special software to fix that, so you won't have issues again!
08:11:26 PMRobbieF GWG tonight we spoke with SubliminalHack about the phone tech scammers, and even aired a clip of a real call
08:17:44 PM_Jot_ oh no! I've been scammed! RobbieF told me I had to donate to get the christmas music, but if you go to that link, you can download the files absolutely free! Wait, is it a scam when you get something for free, when you want to pay?
08:18:17 PMGWG I got a call from someone who told me my Windows computer was malfunctioning
08:18:22 PMGWG I told them that was impressive.
08:18:36 PM_Jot_ why is that impressive GWG?
08:18:44 PMGWG I don't have one?
08:22:48 PMGWG Well, I technically have an old laptop somewhere, but...
08:22:51 PMGWG Not active use
08:23:09 PM_Jot_ GWG, your windows doesn't have a computer in them? but how do they open then?
08:23:58 PM_Jot_ oh look, that is when RobbieF still had hair. Oh wait, my bad, that's Eric without a beard
08:38:06 PM_Jot_ darn, stupid radio cut off in the middle of Eric singing. Or maybe that's the cause?
08:43:56 PMRobbieF haha
08:43:59 PMRobbieF radio is still up!
08:44:25 PM_Jot_ weird, it went to the welcome01.mp3 for me and then completely cut out
08:45:17 PMRobbieF :(
08:45:19 PM_Jot_ aways nice to see Carrie again and the others
08:45:26 PMRobbieF well, you own the MP3s right? :) hehe
08:45:39 PM_Jot_ yep, paid for them and everything :)
08:46:02 PM_Jot_ and like I said then, quality is amazing, even better than the show
08:47:26 PM_Jot_ even though it was a repeat, thanks for showing it RobbieF, that was a nice suprise
08:48:31 PMRobbieF :) My pleasure _Jot_
08:48:35 PMRobbieF figured it was appropriate
08:48:45 PMRobbieF and the team put so much into that special
08:48:53 PMRobbieF and it's been a year since people have seen it... and many never did
08:49:17 PM_Jot_ I hope they will now :)
08:54:42 PMGWG I've decided to watch some a classic Sherman Brothers movie in honor of my earlier activity.
09:17:43 PMrobgorearliest robbief does the cat5tv website use php or just html
09:18:08 PMRobbieF heya!
09:18:14 PMRobbieF it's powered by PHP5
09:18:19 PMGarbee hah, 5.
09:18:23 PMGarbee As if there is anything else now.
09:18:25 PMGarbee ;)
09:18:37 PMRobbieF you'd be disgusted how many people are on 4!
09:18:46 PMGarbee Oh I know.
09:18:48 PMRobbieF I've turned away hosting clients because of it
09:18:59 PMGarbee But for anyone who does dev work still building in it?
09:19:05 PM_Jot_ oh, php 4 is out? maybe I should start using that then
09:19:24 PMRobbieF no garbee
09:19:24 PMGarbee I honestly had the urge to compile PHP4 just to see what it was like.
09:19:35 PMGarbee Then I decided not to put myself through that.
09:19:38 PMGarbee :D
09:19:41 PMRobbieF it's the people who had sites built for them 3 years ago and don't want to pay to rebuild
09:19:54 PMGarbee yup, or more than 3 years...
09:19:59 PMRobbieF yep
09:20:05 PMRobbieF well, you're newer to PHP than me
09:20:06 PMGarbee Or like my dad, just setup zencart using our web hosts script and never cared to update.
09:20:14 PMRobbieF so 5 is likely what you "grew up on"
09:20:22 PMGarbee That is why I started web dev, our host shut off PHP4 which shut down the store site.
09:20:27 PMGarbee oh yea.
09:20:29 PMGarbee 5.3 ;)
09:20:30 PMRobbieF people from the 4.x era take a while to upgrade their servers if they suck, so they end up having old code
09:20:44 PMGarbee Yea, 4 to 5 was a big upgrade.
09:20:50 PMRobbieF yep
09:20:50 PMGarbee Even 5.2 to 5.3 in some cases.
09:21:00 PMGarbee 5.3 to newer stuff is pretty smooth though.
09:21:01 PMRobbieF i'm just going through it with a handful of clients on [gasp] joomla
09:21:03 PMrobgorearliest so is phpso is php5 easy to learn for anyone who hasnt done any programming. what r your thiughrs.
09:21:25 PMRobbieF sure, but you need HTML / XML knowledge first
09:21:30 PMGarbee robgorearliest: PHP is a great beginner language. If you get information from the proper places.
09:21:35 PMrobgorearliest lol typo again
09:21:45 PMGarbee Yea, do need HTML experience.
09:21:56 PMGarbee Since that is most likely what you'll be outputting the most.
09:23:06 PMGarbee Also a good IDE to help you out is nice. IDE's will help aid you with code autocompletion and help with documentation information as well while you code. To help you learn the APIs more easily.
09:23:32 PMGarbee Once you understand the API well enough, move down to a plain text editor like Sublime/Gedit/Vim.
09:23:43 PMrobgorearliest well l have pleanty of time of till march so might try my hand in it
09:24:25 PMrobgorearliest probably use gedit
09:24:26 PMRobbieF happy to do some review
09:24:28 PMGarbee I've actually been working on configuring PHPStorm while working on the store site the past few hours.
09:24:33 PMRobbieF gedit ftw.
09:24:38 PMGarbee Getting all my code templates setup.
09:24:39 PMRobbieF Geany is also nice, but gedit has some pluses
09:24:49 PMRobbieF don't forget
09:24:54 PMRobbieF takes you through much of the basics


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