Chat Logs for Episode 332 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 112 Posts:_Jot_
With 79 Posts:GoodGuy
With 55 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 53 Posts:RobbieF
With 35 Posts:spiceJax


Chat Logs:

06:58:32 PMDennis_Kelley Hello
06:58:58 PMIMTech5 Hi Dennis_Kelley
06:59:12 PMDennis_Kelley Hi IMTech5
06:59:34 PMDennis_Kelley Hello _Jot_
06:59:40 PM_Jot_ hey Dennis_Kelley
06:59:53 PM_Jot_ I'm playing the music in my head :)
07:00:58 PMIMTech5 Hey RobbieF and SashaD!
07:01:21 PMGoodGuy SashaD wears short sleeves and says it's cold... brave lady
07:01:45 PM_Jot_ it wouldn't be category5 without RobbieF mispronouncing things :)
07:01:57 PM_Jot_ *theme music plays*
07:02:05 PMSashaD I had to show off my new shirt of course!!!
07:02:08 PM_Jot_ (thats for people who can't hear it)
07:02:11 PMSashaD But im frozen!
07:02:29 PM_Jot_ your shirt looks great SashaD, I'd go buy one at http://shop.category5.tv if I had money :)
07:02:59 PMGoodGuy If you wore your nice warm old shirt, you may be warm lol
07:03:01 PMIMTech5 I ordered my shirt already. :)
07:03:14 PMspiceJax Where'd the Music go?
07:03:26 PM_Jot_ spiceJax, the device that normally plays the music is broken
07:03:40 PMspiceJax I see
07:04:00 PMGoodGuy Lastpass does it also
07:04:16 PM_Jot_ people who watch the show after will not notice becuase music will have been edited in :)
07:04:50 PM_Jot_ here is a clicky-link so you don't even have to type: http://cat5.tv/password
07:05:37 PMGoodGuy Thank you _Jot_
07:07:31 PMGoodGuy How is that different from giving family your Master Password and the Password file?
07:07:50 PMGoodGuy I do that currently with my wife
07:08:00 PMinvinciblemutant master password? what if someone got a keyboard logger installed on the machine
07:08:04 PM_Jot_ how is the device knowing you have passed on and it isn't somebody else entering the password?
07:08:35 PMGoodGuy That would catch any password
07:08:38 PMinvinciblemutant having known the master password,one will know the complete list of my passowrd
07:09:00 PMGoodGuy You are supposed to have physical security on your PC's
07:09:32 PMinvinciblemutant GoodGuy: not in one go, master password will cause your passwords to go to the hands of criminal in one go
07:09:49 PMinvinciblemutant that is what they pressume, not all users are that savvy
07:10:11 PMGoodGuy If someone put a keylogger on your PC, it will catch most password managers
07:10:56 PMinvinciblemutant most does not mean all
07:11:02 PMGoodGuy Steganos uses a image matching password option as well
07:11:14 PMinvinciblemutant at least i will be warned losing hold of some
07:11:15 PMGoodGuy as an option
07:12:01 PMinvinciblemutant she says no silver bullet
07:12:12 PMGoodGuy I saw Darren from Hak5 code a clipboard intercept... did it very fast
07:12:22 PMtic-toc Only 3 people will ever know my passwords ,,,,me- myself and I
07:12:45 PM_Jot_ hey! Don't involve me in it, I don't know your passwods
07:12:50 PM_Jot_ passwords*
07:13:09 PMinvinciblemutant lol
07:13:16 PM_Jot_ well, except that one that is password, and the other 1234
07:13:26 PMGoodGuy I use Roboform on Windows and it does that
07:13:28 PMinvinciblemutant how to test if someone is drunk?
07:13:48 PMinvinciblemutant ask him this question: what is your cash machine pin?
07:13:53 PMinvinciblemutant LOL
07:14:08 PMGoodGuy I won't store credit card numbers, but address etc works great
07:15:33 PMspiceJax GoodGuy, was that clipboard for Linux or win
07:15:53 PMtic-toc In case you die, do they give your passwords to your wife and your girlfriends?
07:15:55 PMGoodGuy I believe Windows, but it was awhile ago
07:16:09 PMinvinciblemutant what if one has a unfaithful/dishonest heir?
07:16:20 PMGoodGuy lol tic-toc .. would you care at that point.. being dead and all
07:16:22 PMGuest20143 If they can decrypt then they store your private key
07:16:34 PMtalky_toaster Almost forgot ... watching Rhett and Link
07:16:36 PMtic-toc :)
07:16:36 PMspiceJax interesting more reason to do Linux
07:16:37 PMinvinciblemutant oh damn, then they will find out you were cheating
07:16:50 PMGoodGuy The person needs to have a death cert invinciblemutant
07:17:04 PMinvinciblemutant worldwide?
07:17:17 PMinvinciblemutant go to india, you can buy one perhaps
07:17:38 PMGoodGuy It will make your death easier to handle... both women will hate you in death lol
07:17:49 PMtalky_toaster Ha!
07:17:49 PMtic-toc We know your passwords Robbie, don't worry....lol
07:18:03 PM_Jot_ I'll just won't tell anybody my master password is Jot and then leave it here in the chatlogs so my benificiary can find it
07:18:16 PMspiceJax Ia Maeghan spelled correctly?
07:18:46 PM_Jot_ yes
07:18:47 PMinvinciblemutant any guarantee?
07:19:11 PMkiwitux So I need to change my master password from '123456'?
07:19:18 PMspiceJax Irish I guess?
07:19:43 PM_Jot_ kiwitux, that's not 1234 so it should be secure, right?
07:20:09 PMspiceJax Tux!
07:20:10 PMinvinciblemutant insurance, if hacked????
07:20:17 PMkiwitux _Jot_, good to know that.
07:21:31 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - SashaD Do these short links remain for a long time after the show in case ppl watch it a year later and wish to use the link?
07:22:18 PMinvinciblemutant wow
07:22:22 PMspiceJax Anybody using Operas password manager?
07:22:24 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, usually they stay as long as possible
07:22:47 PMGoodGuy Cool thank you _Jot_
07:22:56 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, 'password' and '1234' are fine passwords for you
07:23:16 PMinvinciblemutant the link again please
07:23:43 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/password
07:23:53 PMGuest20143 RobbieF if they can "unlock" your account in the event of your death, do they store your key or have a master key that decrypts?
07:24:09 PMtalky_toaster _Jot_: That's a pretty good idea for passwords
07:24:11 PMinvinciblemutant my password is r066ief
07:24:42 PM_Jot_ I think they don't keep passwords, but only allow you to log in, so the system checks that. And if somebody else tries their password, it won't work unless you are dead
07:24:50 PMkiwitux Hey Guys, How cold is it there?
07:25:09 PMinvinciblemutant PasswordBox is only available for Chrome versions 31 and above. Please update your browser and try again.
07:25:15 PM_Jot_ SashaD, your sides look great too!
07:25:25 PMGoodGuy very cold here in Michigan and they are probably colder yet
07:25:46 PMinvinciblemutant i am on elementary OS, i think the graphic is perfect
07:25:47 PM_Jot_ it's around water-freezing-termperature here
07:25:52 PMajamison5579 they are Canadian they are immune to cold
07:25:54 PMkiwitux I thought she said that they manually checked for a death certificate and then allowed a person you had previously nominated.
07:25:55 PMajamison5579 :)
07:27:35 PM_Jot_ I think it's logical of logmein to do this, since their service was abused a lot by scammers and phishers
07:27:40 PMinvinciblemutant i hate companies like that
07:27:55 PMinvinciblemutant giving free services initially, then start charging
07:28:21 PMGuest20143 Yes but how would they decrypt without the password. She said they did not know your password or store unencrypted data. They also say they cannot decrypt if you forget your password. So I was wondering how they were able to decrypt in the event of your death?
07:29:11 PMajamison5579 they said that you generate a secondary master key that you give to the person you have set as your legacy contact
07:29:15 PM_Jot_ Guest20143, earlier they said you would have a master password, and your friend would have one, that would work when you pass on
07:29:18 PMtic-toc I respect you Sasha, now give me $49.00
07:29:28 PMajamison5579 that secondary key is not usable until they verify your death
07:29:43 PMinvinciblemutant one year for yearly budget
07:29:43 PMGuest20143 thanks ajamison5579 that makes sense, I missed that part
07:29:53 PMinvinciblemutant so that people can put that in the next year budget
07:30:10 PMinvinciblemutant hey, any news about galaxy glasses
07:30:31 PMajamison5579 I am getting a galacy Gear not sure about glasses though
07:30:37 PMinvinciblemutant rumour that samsung's galaxy glasses will hit the market faster than google glasses
07:30:52 PMGoodGuy What is a Galaxy Gear.. a watch?
07:31:05 PM_Jot_ galaxy gear is samsungs name for portable stuff
07:31:10 PMGoodGuy ok
07:31:12 PMinvinciblemutant good guy...a smart watch
07:31:16 PMajamison5579 yes a smart watch and the ultimate sink hole for tech junkies like myself
07:31:22 PMGoodGuy love tech toys
07:31:33 PMGoodGuy I still need a tablet
07:31:39 PM_Jot_ I have a smart watch, that i can program remotely, except it cost me $25, normally it costs $50
07:32:01 PMinvinciblemutant u will feel you are like robocop having these glasses
07:32:11 PM_Jot_ and with program remotely, I mean its a computer with an LCD display, so I can program it entirely
07:32:16 PMGoodGuy Google will buy Password Box lol
07:32:35 PMajamison5579 Google will be the Skynet of the real world you just wait and see
07:32:37 PMinvinciblemutant google class tell this is robbie, his hair was on top, now drops due to gravity
07:32:38 PMGoodGuy They want to make cash off a Robot Army for the USA
07:32:43 PMrats_ RobbieF: Could you please sit a little closer to SashaD http://imagebin.org/289619
07:32:43 PMtic-toc SkyRim
07:33:18 PMGoodGuy US wants to use Robot soldiers instead of real humans
07:33:41 PMinvinciblemutant i think the first google glasses were invented and wore by Robocop
07:33:47 PMGoodGuy not a complete replacement, but field a fair number that have human logic
07:34:30 PMajamison5579 GoodGuy they are allready working on a suit that enhances strength and endurance through Neumatic assisted hydrolics
07:34:41 PMGoodGuy I saw that
07:34:42 PMrats_ Thank You
07:34:47 PM_Jot_ wow, SashaD, you can see with your eyes closed!
07:34:57 PMtalky_toaster Say ... my setup looks like that.
07:35:11 PMGoodGuy These were real robots that can have human logic patterns downloaded to them
07:35:18 PMtic-toc Never watched it
07:35:20 PMajamison5579 Doctor Who
07:35:21 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, http://shop.category5.tv
07:35:38 PMajamison5579 The oldest Question, the first question: Doctor Who?
07:35:49 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, did you know with the code 'grandopening' without the quotes, will get you a 10% discount on that store?
07:36:01 PMGoodGuy I have five of the exacy same shirt from 2001 and still looks great
07:36:14 PMGoodGuy whatever they used for material was great
07:36:16 PMtic-toc Do you sell Category5 long johns with trap doors?
07:36:18 PMGoodGuy exact
07:36:21 PMinvinciblemutant hey room, tomorrow is chinese new year eve, i wish all chinese and those celebrating 'Happy Chinese New year'
07:36:44 PMinvinciblemutant the year of 'Horse' will fall in 2 days
07:36:45 PM_Jot_ If you want discount cards instead, http://cat5.tv/studio is still available too and you can donate as well to http://cat5.tv/c
07:36:59 PMajamison5579 Robbief can you get lifesize cardboard cutouts of the Cat 5 cast members?
07:37:05 PMajamison5579 lol
07:37:29 PMtalky_toaster Say ... where's that photo stream RobbieF was talking about earlier. Just registered on the website and cannot find it.
07:37:38 PM_Jot_ ajamison, you can buy one of the shots and blow that up I guess?
07:37:56 PM_Jot_ talky_toaster, it's under the members section
07:38:03 PMtalky_toaster Hmmmm
07:38:22 PM_Jot_ members and then photo gallery? or do you mean the photos of the episodes? those are available under each episode
07:38:24 PMkiwitux That's RobbieF's radio DJ voice.
07:38:26 PMGoodGuy no 2XL? the US population eats well or not well I suppose
07:38:29 PMtalky_toaster He said it was a live updating stream
07:38:37 PMGoodGuy eats too much
07:38:38 PMajamison5579 I am going to get one and put it in my front yard with a sign that says this home is protected by Angry Canadians! Given the stereo type here in the states that Canadians never get mad it will likely scare the crap out of people
07:38:58 PMinvinciblemutant any mac users around ?
07:39:03 PM_Jot_ Under interact there is also the photobooth
07:39:11 PMinvinciblemutant how to do screencast ?
07:39:17 PMinvinciblemutant screencast on mac
07:39:26 PMinvinciblemutant or screencast on linux
07:39:45 PMGuest20143 invinciblemutant, Quicktime, but you should use linux instead
07:40:03 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF: you make it sound so good1
07:40:06 PMDennis_Kelley !
07:40:07 PMajamison5579 "This advertisement for Ultramizer Pro has been brought to you by Robbie Ferguson"
07:40:14 PMtic-toc nice rack
07:40:17 PMGoodGuy That looks expensive
07:40:17 PMinvinciblemutant quicktime does not work on mac?
07:40:35 PMtalky_toaster Remember during the episode they both paused to get a picture? RobbieF said it was auto updating the website (I think he said that).
07:40:50 PMGoodGuy apple made quicktime, so you can bet it does
07:41:06 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, is that one of those amazing stickers from http://shop.category5.tv ?
07:41:15 PMajamison5579 Apple also had a huge hand in creating USB along side Intel
07:41:19 PMkiwitux Does it have a 'flux capacitor' or is that an optional extra
07:41:50 PMajamison5579 Kiwitux that is in the optional "No one calls me Chicken" BTF package
07:42:05 PMtic-toc Yeah but it's hard to get it to 88mph
07:42:07 PM_Jot_ it wouldn't work anyway, since it doesn't go to 88
07:42:32 PMajamison5579 Tic-toc it has been modified to work at 88Mhz
07:43:23 PMtic-toc We cant hear you now Robbie...what did you do?
07:43:33 PM_Jot_ maybe the show broke :)
07:43:54 PMinvinciblemutant hopefully RobbieF does not screw up the setting during the show
07:44:40 PMtic-toc don't puch the big red button
07:44:43 PMSashaD you can hear now right?
07:44:46 PMkiwitux Yes if it ain't broke don't change it!
07:44:46 PM_Jot_ yeah, I hope so also, the music already was broken too
07:45:03 PMtic-toc No.
07:45:13 PMtic-toc No sound now
07:45:14 PM_Jot_ SashaD, we can hear just fine, that was just when RobbieF was quiet to demonstrate the -48 setting
07:45:14 PMajamison5579 When this babby reaches 88hz your going to see some real spartks
07:45:17 PMajamison5579 sparks
07:45:18 PMinvinciblemutant ask him to demo the (1) button
07:45:22 PMinvinciblemutant press on that
07:46:06 PM_Jot_ see, it only goes to 80, not 88
07:46:06 PMtic-toc lol
07:46:10 PMGoodGuy He is kidding
07:46:29 PMtalky_toaster April fools!
07:46:43 PMtic-toc gotcha....:)
07:47:11 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: is there any software that do the same?
07:47:45 PM_Jot_ I'm sure people could make software that does the same since they emulate almost everything else
07:47:46 PMajamison5579 Or you can use the Trek communicator and have Spok teleport down and fix it for you
07:48:08 PMinvinciblemutant mac does it well is it?
07:49:17 PMinvinciblemutant split the audio and video, level it and combine
07:49:23 PMtic-toc Levelator ---I'll be back
07:49:31 PMinvinciblemutant ic...your constraint is live streaming
07:50:26 PMtic-toc yuk.....mat'e
07:50:35 PMajamison5579 Gday Matte
07:50:49 PMajamison5579 sorry could not resist that stero typical Aussie Phrase
07:51:00 PM_Jot_ okay, who went and replaced RobbieF with a french person? What happened there SashaD?
07:51:17 PMinvinciblemutant you bun too...
07:51:34 PMtalky_toaster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pi_HRk5OXk
07:51:49 PMtalky_toaster Mate as in friend or Mate as in tea
07:53:31 PM_Jot_ wow, was that music I heard??? :)
07:53:44 PMajamison5579 what is Music
07:55:30 PM_Jot_ apparently, thats different for everyone, although most people have some idea about it when they hear it
07:57:56 PMkiwitux Does it work with Linux?
07:58:04 PMRobbieF It should? :)
07:58:23 PMinvinciblemutant what is the difference between desktop gamming and cloud
07:58:41 PMGoodGuy Scribus
07:58:57 PMinvinciblemutant do you mean having a pwoerful graphic card, u get a better experiecne
07:59:05 PMinvinciblemutant cloud does the same right
07:59:07 PMinvinciblemutant ?
07:59:46 PMGoodGuy RobbieF Packt has a book on that
07:59:52 PMkiwitux Following up from linux.conf.au, search github for HDMI2USB is based on FPGA demo platform
08:00:04 PM_Jot_ cloud usually means running the game on a powerful system with a powerful graphics card, and then streaming the result to another computer
08:00:21 PM_Jot_ Seeing SashaD is always nice too!
08:00:38 PMinvinciblemutant _Jot_: we dont need a power graphic card
08:00:40 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, Full Circle had a free ebook on Scribus also iirc
08:00:47 PMinvinciblemutant leave everything over the cloud
08:00:50 PMGuest20143 Photoshop vs GIMP?
08:00:50 PMRobbieF :)
08:00:52 PMRobbieF thanks everyone!
08:01:02 PMIMTech5 Great show as always! Thanks @RobbieF and SashaD!
08:01:10 PMSashaD Thank you everyone : )
08:01:14 PMinvinciblemutant who will be the next co host
08:01:17 PMIMTech5 Later everyone...
08:01:19 PMSashaD That was a super fast hour!!
08:01:38 PMkiwitux Cheers all. Keep up the good work.
08:01:40 PM_Jot_ it always goes fast with nice people
08:01:45 PMtic-toc What, I didn't hear that
08:01:50 PMrats_ GoodGuy: What issue of Full Circe was the Scribus tut
08:02:00 PMinvinciblemutant good show..gonna dash out
08:02:11 PM_Jot_ SashaD, of course you can stomach a whole one! You are a growing girl and everything
08:02:36 PMDennis_Kelley Great Show RobbieF and SashaD
08:02:53 PMABQTKY All OS/2 users have known about SCR-EYE-BUS for years! Nice to hear a mention of OS/2 though!
08:02:58 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - Did you catch the comment that Full Circle has a free ebook on using Scribus?
08:03:02 PM_Jot_ SashaD, normally such books make me feel bad because their life is actually better than mine :)
08:03:36 PMGoodGuy It was a special edition rats_
08:03:40 PM_Jot_ SashaD, you brought your laptop because you wanted to see if it could run linux if i remember correctly
08:03:53 PM_Jot_ the radio is off now so I can't remind you of more things :)
08:04:18 PMGoodGuy http://fullcirclemagazine.org/tag/special/
08:04:29 PMGoodGuy look on that web page
08:04:38 PMSashaD Jot.... nope, there is no way your life is as bad as hers. Its a horrible depressing read. And totally addicting
08:04:50 PMrats_ Thank you GoodGuy
08:04:51 PMSashaD Perfect... Thanks Jot!!
08:05:19 PMGoodGuy http://fullcirclemagazine.org/scribus-special-edition/
08:05:23 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy: I like Full Circle mag
08:05:35 PMGoodGuy That is a direct link.... both pdf and epub
08:05:43 PMGoodGuy I do also Dennis_Kelley
08:05:55 PMtalky_toaster GoodGuy: Good link. Didn't know about this online mag or podcast.
08:06:05 PMGoodGuy Now you do :-)
08:06:24 PMtalky_toaster bookmarked ! :-)
08:06:26 PMGoodGuy PCLinuxOS has a nice free magazine as well
08:06:42 PMrats_ I mut have missed that one.
08:06:43 PMrobgor great show robbief and sashad
08:06:43 PM_Jot_ SashaD, not wanting to complain, but I life alone, have no friends, family or acquintances except some people online, and I'm not allowed to do anything in life or have any chances, so I have to keep myself busy alone untill I die, so yeah, it can get worse, but not a lot :)
08:06:51 PMrats_ ty
08:06:58 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy: where is that at?
08:07:03 PMSashaD are you in jail?
08:07:05 PMGoodGuy also a free BSD magazine
08:07:14 PM_Jot_ SashaD, I wish, then I would have more rights
08:07:38 PMSashaD oh no..... I'm a member of Amnesty International, maybe we can help!!!
08:07:41 PMrats_ RobbieF: & SashaD good show
08:07:51 PMSashaD Thanks Rats : )
08:07:58 PMRobbieF Thank you rats_
08:07:59 PMrats_ yw
08:08:34 PMtalky_toaster _Jot_: sounds like you're married :-)
08:08:37 PM_Jot_ oh, and not to mention I still get money for being unfit for work, but they are looking into cancelling that for everybody in the same situation, and then I'd get the same money, but be forced to work as a slave, so without getting paid, and paying for the priviledge, risking no money for up to 3 months if I say anything bad or don't look appropriately dressed or anything
08:09:05 PMtalky_toaster Yeap ... you're married
08:09:09 PM_Jot_ heh, if I was married, then at least I'd be talk to somebody :)
08:09:17 PM_Jot_ be able to
08:09:25 PMtalky_toaster I'm just fooling :-)
08:09:53 PMSashaD Oh dear.... I truly hope things start to look up for you. You are such a great guy... you deserve all good things
08:09:55 PM_Jot_ I don't want to complain because I don't want to get depressed and such, but just saying most bad situations would be an improvement :)
08:09:57 PMGoodGuy talked at is probably a more accurate desc .. just kidding
08:10:22 PM_Jot_ At the moment I actually feel very priviledged for being able to talk to nice people like everybody at category5 and the community etc
08:11:00 PMRobbieF _Jot_ distance may separate us, but we're friends. Real, true friends. Don't be so hard on yourself man.
08:11:06 PMSashaD I have to get Password Box asap
08:11:18 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/password :)
08:11:46 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I know, and usually it is not as bad as it sounds, don't worry :)
08:12:28 PMRobbieF :)
08:12:55 PM_Jot_ oh, I have some good news, the pirate bay blocking in my country has been banned for now, so the ISPs are no longer required to block it, for as long as that lasts
08:13:18 PMrobgor hmm looks like the Dell Workstation is out of the question at the prices they want, looks like I will be building a pc myself
08:13:53 PMGoodGuy A lot of great Youtube videos on building PC's
08:14:19 PMrobgor yeah goodguy not a problem with me have built alot myself
08:14:26 PMGoodGuy neat
08:14:58 PMGoodGuy I haven't built a whole pc, but changed pieces in the past
08:15:14 PMGoodGuy This PC was assembled by a small shop
08:15:24 PMrobgor was just thinking if I could get a workstation for around the same prices as building it would go that was and save a little time
08:15:41 PMGoodGuy no cable management and I dread going inside
08:15:59 PMGoodGuy The power supply is a PC Power and Cooling
08:16:16 PMGoodGuy mot modular and the case it is a rats nest
08:16:20 PMGoodGuy not
08:17:11 PMGoodGuy I just purchased 4 GB memory and someday I'll get motivated and install it
08:17:33 PMGoodGuy Due to the cold, the static in our house is terrible
08:18:10 PMrobgor yeah well I dont have that problem atm, definatly not cold
08:18:20 PMGoodGuy Last night I was sleeping with a cover sheet and I saw a flash of white light
08:18:48 PMGoodGuy after figuring out I didn't just die, I realized it was severe static lol
08:19:08 PM_Jot_ also known as lightning :)
08:19:15 PMGoodGuy Yep
08:19:30 PMGoodGuy Never saw it off a bed sheet and that bright
08:19:58 PM_Jot_ there might even be a burn mark somewhere
08:20:01 PMGoodGuy Years ago I used to work as a mainframe programmer
08:20:31 PMGoodGuy They installed short carpets and the static was just awful
08:21:05 PMGoodGuy We bought anti-static spray, sprayed it and two hours later it was just as bad again
08:21:18 PMrobgor anyone using zorinos ?
08:21:31 PMGuest20143 RobbieF: Is the shop US or Canadian dollars?
08:21:36 PMRobbieF Canadian.
08:21:38 PMGoodGuy We used to shuffle our feet and touch a coworker.... the shocks actually hurt
08:21:51 PMRobbieF Thanks for prompting me Guest20143 - I'll add that to the site so it's clear.
08:22:16 PMGoodGuy I tried it in the past and had some trouble with the search box in the menus iirc
08:22:20 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, might also want to do that to http://cat5.tv/studio since there it isn't clear either
08:22:22 PMGuest20143 Thank you RobbieF, I wasn't sure if it was detecting location :)
08:22:45 PMrobgor I ordered a shirt and some stickers. Might put a sticker on my laptop :)
08:22:53 PM_Jot_ I found out the CAD isn't worth much either, compared to euros at the moment, a few weeks ago, it was only 35 euros
08:23:33 PM_Jot_ nice robgor :) I put my money in the other campaign this month, but I want stuff from the store too, so I'm glad it is there now
08:23:37 PMSashaD That's super awesome robgor!!! Maybe the lower Can $ will work to our benefit : )
08:24:07 PM_Jot_ SashaD, thanks for making the show really nice, and adding something good to it as well :)
08:24:20 PMSashaD Thank you Jot : )
08:25:05 PMrobgor well the $AUS is only worth 0.88 $US at one stage it was on par with the $US :(
08:25:40 PMSashaD I don't know how much I add currently.... I'm slightly technologically stunted!
08:25:49 PM_Jot_ I'm sure that isn't due to the australian dollar :)
08:26:02 PMSashaD But Im happy you are enjoying the show : )
08:26:02 PMRobbieF Let's get SashaD to install Linux on this new laptop of hers, shall we?
08:26:19 PM_Jot_ make sure to make a video of it so you can put it on the show
08:26:26 PMGoodGuy It used to be worth more.. I bought a Pascal compilers from the Australian Atomic Energy Commission years ago.. it was $100 Aus and it was $119 US iirc
08:26:42 PMSashaD I think we will be doing it live, the next time I'm on : ) :)
08:26:51 PMRobbieF Definitely _Jot_ - a feature or series for sure.
08:26:58 PMrobgor hmm might put the CAT5 poster with the gold and diamond incrusted frame in my home office :)
08:27:02 PMRobbieF And the "Windows to Linux conversion" play by play.
08:27:12 PMGoodGuy Robbie should do a show on Easy2Boot
08:27:33 PMSashaD That would be cool GoodGuy
08:27:34 PM_Jot_ SashaD, you add a lot, becasue a lot of people who don't know much about computers might feel overwhelmed and not so much if they see not so technical people are welcome too and participate etc
08:27:48 PMGoodGuy awesome program and she can run Linux off a flash drive .... multiple distros also
08:27:49 PMSashaD Thank you!
08:28:23 PMRobbieF No - we'll do a full dual-boot
08:28:29 PMRobbieF CONVERT, not "test"
08:28:54 PMGoodGuy Have you seen Easy2Boot RobbieF ?
08:29:04 PM_Jot_ poor laptop, it will actually have to work for a change and not wait on windows all the time
08:29:07 PMrats_ Good tjinking RobbieF
08:29:28 PMrats_ Thinking
08:29:35 PMGoodGuy http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/72---easyboot---a-grubdos-multiboot-drive-that-is-easy-to-maintain/e2bv1
08:30:09 PMGoodGuy Neatest multi boot USB drive software
08:30:51 PMSashaD I am so so so new to all of this. It's hilarious how I don't yet understand anything you are all saying!
08:31:01 PMSashaD Except Jot lol
08:31:25 PM_Jot_ its about not just installing linux, but also keeping windows for when you need it, on the laptop
08:32:46 PM_Jot_ to do that, you need to add a menu so you can say I want to boot linux, or I want to boot windows, and one of those is called grub
08:33:57 PMSashaD ohhhhh.... that makes sense!
08:34:59 PM_Jot_ its pretty easy to do too, if you have linux on the computer and then install windows, windows will replace any menu you have, and not let you start linux, but the other way around, linux will see you have windows and add that to grub automaticly
08:35:51 PM_Jot_ now you know that, you can make a smart remark saying it probably wouldn't be so easy to do if you install windows, when that situation comes :)
08:38:05 PMGoodGuy night all
08:38:33 PMspiceJax How to pick the Linux for a Windows convert aka newbie?
08:39:12 PMSashaD Good night everyone.... thank you for all the fun this evening, and I will see you soon!
08:39:15 PMspiceJax Zorin? PClinuxOs? MINT16?
08:39:16 PM_Jot_ a lot of people would say ubuntu, but i think thats not so good lately due to how they changed stuff
08:39:20 PM_Jot_ same to you SashaD
08:39:39 PM_Jot_ RobbieF has been running point linux, so that is what you see when he demonstrates something
08:40:47 PM_Jot_ generally, as long as your internet works, and you know how to install stuff, you can find everything you need for the linux you like
08:41:11 PMspiceJax I have Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity and I think its too different for a newbie
08:41:13 PM_Jot_ and, you can try them out in virtual machines to see which one you like first, without risking your computer
08:42:03 PMspiceJax seems the hard part is getting the 'right' window manager I like KDE
08:43:21 PMspiceJax the other thing is 'apps', finding Linux equivlents
08:45:33 PM_Jot_ yes, not all of them have that, but a great many do
08:45:50 PM_Jot_ and finding them if any exists can be half the battle sometimes :)
08:45:53 PMspiceJax Linux has so much choice. but finding is the hard part. This naming of software is a learning in it self
08:45:57 PMrobgor spicejax try zorinos as it has a windows look feature and a new zersion has come out http://zorin-os.com/
08:47:10 PMRobbieF Just post producing the music into the episode intro and extro now... our tablet (which plays the music) wouldn't turn on tonight before the show. :(
08:47:51 PMspiceJax I have tried zorin and probley will change from Ubuntu. This machine has PCLinuxOS Full Monty
08:48:06 PM_Jot_ the tablet probably became an ex-parrot. I mean tablet
08:48:33 PMspiceJax I yhink Zorin will be good for Sasha
08:48:39 PMrobgor spicejas are you wanting to change to linux from windows?
08:49:08 PMrobgor spicejax are you wanting to change to linux from windows?
08:50:40 PM_Jot_ I hope they will end up talking about differences and what would be best for her to find out their thinking :)
08:51:12 PMspiceJax I have two laptops both dual boot one vista with wubi and one with PCLinuxOS Vista (in bootorder)
08:52:21 PMrobgor ah ok
08:52:29 PM_Jot_ I've been experimenting with network-booting, which didn't work too well at first, but now somebody else did some work so I have my unraid set up for that, so I don't need to dualboot anymore :)
08:52:29 PMrats_ I think Kubuntu would be a good thing for Sasha
08:52:39 PMspiceJax I'm trying to duplicate what I use on windows with Linux software then kiss Vista goodbye
08:53:35 PMrats_ not to much different than Windows - just shinnier
08:54:00 PM_Jot_ unless you have stuff that only runs on vista, theres a lot worse things you could do
08:54:10 PM_Jot_ I mean, vista is about the worst of the current operating systems
08:54:33 PMspiceJax finding a clipboard manager like clipmate is my main problem
08:55:04 PM_Jot_ linux has much better clipboard-handling than windows I think
08:55:08 PMspiceJax Yup Vista I'm Hatin it lol
08:55:58 PM_Jot_ for example http://www.category5.tv/episodes/212.php
08:56:32 PM_Jot_ it even has music and an intro and extro and everything, we don't even get that these days :P
08:57:54 PMspiceJax here what I use on Vista http://m8software.com/clipboards/spartan/spartanlite.htm
08:58:00 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_: how do we cast our ballet for the contest tonight
08:59:25 PM_Jot_ email live@category5.tv with the title 'ballot for passwordbox' and have the email you used to register there included in the email
09:00:31 PM_Jot_ so pretty much same as always. And including your registered user name (the category5 username) is helpful too so RobbieF can say who won :)
09:01:28 PM_Jot_ I'm not entirely sure if RobbieF specified it all, like I said, but if he didn't he might want to say it again next week properly and delay it
09:02:05 PMRobbieF Hey _Jot_, I'm pretty sure I was clear.
09:02:11 PMRobbieF even repeated myself for accuracy :)
09:02:28 PMRobbieF just make sure you use http://cat5.tv/password as the link
09:02:31 PMspiceJax btw, can I use X-chat with this room?
09:02:32 PM_Jot_ probably :) I wasn't listening all the time since it was a lot of sales-talk and I wasn't going to participate anyway
09:02:36 PMDennis_Kelley and redundancy
09:02:47 PMRobbieF :-D
09:02:59 PM_Jot_ you can use any IRC client that connects with freenode
09:03:52 PMspiceJax I'll try it later, thanks
09:04:39 PMGWG_ Work is over
09:04:40 PMGWG_ Finally
09:04:51 PM_Jot_ I've been looking at clipboard managers for linux, and there are literally dozens, open source and everything, so you shouldn't have a problem finding one
09:05:39 PMRavenLords hello
09:05:49 PM_Jot_ hey RavenLords
09:05:55 PM_Jot_ time for fun GWG :)
09:06:00 PM_Jot_ and food :)
09:06:11 PMspiceJax Jot, point me to them. I have klipper
09:06:11 PMRobbieF heya Ravenlords and GWG
09:06:42 PMRavenLords how are you robbie
09:06:51 PMspiceJax and all the others (just a few) are about the same
09:06:58 PM_Jot_ try googling linux clipboard manager, for example here is a list for some on archlinux: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/clipboard
09:07:05 PMRobbieF Doing well thanks RavenLords -- how about you?
09:07:47 PMRavenLords im ok just geting pist at this firewall of my
09:07:54 PMRobbieF Oldie but a goodie re. Clipboards in Linux - http://www.category5.tv/episodes/212.php
09:08:11 PMRobbieF Firewall giving you hard times?
09:08:25 PMspiceJax ok I'll tgry again. the ones in the repos are kind of basic
09:08:45 PMRavenLords i can not get the Port Forward to work
09:10:51 PM_Jot_ normally all you have to do to get that to work is specify the port, and the IP-address of the computer you want to forward to, in the router
09:11:07 PMspiceJax I am trying to wrap my head around installing a tarball, but the tuts are always assuming that your system has everything. I seem to be missing "configure"
09:11:14 PM_Jot_ and, that may include specifying UDP or TCP, or both, and incoming or outgoing
09:11:37 PM_Jot_ you mean make config?
09:11:38 PMRobbieF tarball is just like "zip"
09:11:51 PMRobbieF it's what is in the tarball (think, zip) that you build.
09:11:55 PMRavenLords its a dell poweredge 2659 with pf sense on it
09:12:02 PMRobbieF the command is: ./configure
09:12:06 PMRobbieF not configure
09:12:10 PMRobbieF (don't forget the ./)
09:12:24 PMRobbieF and MAY require sudo
09:13:17 PMspiceJax nope ./configure it is spoused to be in the tarball?
09:13:24 PMRobbieF no
09:13:32 PMRobbieF you have to untar (think, unzip) the files from the tar
09:13:41 PMRobbieF into a folder
09:13:45 PMRobbieF then run ./configure in that folder
09:14:06 PMspiceJax robe I did type ./configure lol
09:14:12 PMRobbieF and?
09:14:37 PM_Jot_ maybe this would be something that would look great on the show, and RobbieF could connect to the computer and demonstrate it, so you can see how it works :)
09:14:56 PMspiceJax and I was in the dir that the tarball extacted to
09:15:41 PMRobbieF spicejax - I mean, "and" = what was the output? What happened?
09:15:42 PMspiceJax If I haven't got it by next month lol
09:17:17 PMspiceJax [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# ./configure bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
09:18:10 PM_Jot_ I'd do an ls configure
09:18:30 PMRobbieF well there you have it :)
09:18:36 PMspiceJax The pkg is a gui to config conky
09:18:59 PMRobbieF is there a web link to the package so I can see its contents?
09:18:59 PM_Jot_ probably untarring it has been done, but it didn't give the proper rights to execute things, thats a precaution against virusses and malware
09:19:20 PMRobbieF yes, that's possible. chmod +x configure
09:19:27 PMRobbieF then ./configure
09:19:33 PMRobbieF but also possible the file simply doesn't exist
09:19:39 PMRobbieF would help to see the tarball
09:19:40 PMspiceJax [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# ls configure ls: cannot access configure: No such file or directory
09:19:46 PMRobbieF there ya go
09:19:50 PMRobbieF tarball please?
09:19:59 PM_Jot_ http://sourceforge.net/projects/conkygui/ and http://conkygui.sourceforge.net/
09:20:26 PMRobbieF ./install
09:20:27 PM_Jot_ tarballs at http://sourceforge.net/projects/conkygui/files/tarbz2/
09:20:44 PMRobbieF oh wait - it's all caps
09:20:46 PMRobbieF ./INSTALL
09:21:12 PMRobbieF but this is a jar
09:21:14 PMRobbieF no install needed
09:21:18 PMRobbieF you just run it in javavm
09:21:24 PMspiceJax [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# chmod +x configure chmod: cannot access ‘configure’: No such file or directory
09:21:25 PMRobbieF but you need java
09:21:49 PMRobbieF sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre scala-library
09:22:02 PMRobbieF then: chmod u+x conkygui.sh
09:22:07 PMRobbieF then: ./conkygui.sh
09:22:20 PMRobbieF no making or configuring: it's a java app
09:22:56 PM_Jot_ it even has instructions to install (if you can call it that) at http://conkygui.sourceforge.net/pages/install
09:24:14 PM_Jot_ oh, I had something interesting with linux lately as well :)
09:24:56 PM_Jot_ I have a Texas Instruments Chronos watch, that I can program, and I can program it over the air as well, except that it wouldn't work, because the accesspoint doesn't have the proper firmware somehow, due to a bad batch or something

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