06:58:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello
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06:58:58 PM | IMTech5 | Hi Dennis_Kelley
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06:59:12 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi IMTech5
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06:59:34 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello _Jot_
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06:59:40 PM | _Jot_ | hey Dennis_Kelley
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06:59:53 PM | _Jot_ | I'm playing the music in my head :)
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07:00:58 PM | IMTech5 | Hey RobbieF and SashaD!
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07:01:21 PM | GoodGuy | SashaD wears short sleeves and says it's cold... brave lady
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07:01:45 PM | _Jot_ | it wouldn't be category5 without RobbieF mispronouncing things :)
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07:01:57 PM | _Jot_ | *theme music plays*
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07:02:05 PM | SashaD | I had to show off my new shirt of course!!!
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07:02:08 PM | _Jot_ | (thats for people who can't hear it)
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07:02:11 PM | SashaD | But im frozen!
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07:02:29 PM | _Jot_ | your shirt looks great SashaD, I'd go buy one at http://shop.category5.tv if I had money :)
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07:02:59 PM | GoodGuy | If you wore your nice warm old shirt, you may be warm lol
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07:03:01 PM | IMTech5 | I ordered my shirt already. :)
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07:03:14 PM | spiceJax | Where'd the Music go?
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07:03:26 PM | _Jot_ | spiceJax, the device that normally plays the music is broken
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07:03:40 PM | spiceJax | I see
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07:04:00 PM | GoodGuy | Lastpass does it also
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07:04:16 PM | _Jot_ | people who watch the show after will not notice becuase music will have been edited in :)
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07:04:50 PM | _Jot_ | here is a clicky-link so you don't even have to type: http://cat5.tv/password
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07:05:37 PM | GoodGuy | Thank you _Jot_
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07:07:31 PM | GoodGuy | How is that different from giving family your Master Password and the Password file?
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07:07:50 PM | GoodGuy | I do that currently with my wife
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07:08:00 PM | invinciblemutant | master password? what if someone got a keyboard logger installed on the machine
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07:08:04 PM | _Jot_ | how is the device knowing you have passed on and it isn't somebody else entering the password?
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07:08:35 PM | GoodGuy | That would catch any password
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07:08:38 PM | invinciblemutant | having known the master password,one will know the complete list of my passowrd
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07:09:00 PM | GoodGuy | You are supposed to have physical security on your PC's
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07:09:32 PM | invinciblemutant | GoodGuy: not in one go, master password will cause your passwords to go to the hands of criminal in one go
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07:09:49 PM | invinciblemutant | that is what they pressume, not all users are that savvy
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07:10:11 PM | GoodGuy | If someone put a keylogger on your PC, it will catch most password managers
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07:10:56 PM | invinciblemutant | most does not mean all
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07:11:02 PM | GoodGuy | Steganos uses a image matching password option as well
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07:11:14 PM | invinciblemutant | at least i will be warned losing hold of some
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07:11:15 PM | GoodGuy | as an option
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07:12:01 PM | invinciblemutant | she says no silver bullet
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07:12:12 PM | GoodGuy | I saw Darren from Hak5 code a clipboard intercept... did it very fast
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07:12:22 PM | tic-toc | Only 3 people will ever know my passwords ,,,,me- myself and I
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07:12:45 PM | _Jot_ | hey! Don't involve me in it, I don't know your passwods
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07:12:50 PM | _Jot_ | passwords*
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07:13:09 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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07:13:16 PM | _Jot_ | well, except that one that is password, and the other 1234
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07:13:26 PM | GoodGuy | I use Roboform on Windows and it does that
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07:13:28 PM | invinciblemutant | how to test if someone is drunk?
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07:13:48 PM | invinciblemutant | ask him this question: what is your cash machine pin?
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07:13:53 PM | invinciblemutant | LOL
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07:14:08 PM | GoodGuy | I won't store credit card numbers, but address etc works great
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07:15:33 PM | spiceJax | GoodGuy, was that clipboard for Linux or win
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07:15:53 PM | tic-toc | In case you die, do they give your passwords to your wife and your girlfriends?
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07:15:55 PM | GoodGuy | I believe Windows, but it was awhile ago
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07:16:09 PM | invinciblemutant | what if one has a unfaithful/dishonest heir?
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07:16:20 PM | GoodGuy | lol tic-toc .. would you care at that point.. being dead and all
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07:16:22 PM | Guest20143 | If they can decrypt then they store your private key
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07:16:34 PM | talky_toaster | Almost forgot ... watching Rhett and Link
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07:16:36 PM | tic-toc | :)
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07:16:36 PM | spiceJax | interesting more reason to do Linux
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07:16:37 PM | invinciblemutant | oh damn, then they will find out you were cheating
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07:16:50 PM | GoodGuy | The person needs to have a death cert invinciblemutant
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07:17:04 PM | invinciblemutant | worldwide?
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07:17:17 PM | invinciblemutant | go to india, you can buy one perhaps
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07:17:38 PM | GoodGuy | It will make your death easier to handle... both women will hate you in death lol
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07:17:49 PM | talky_toaster | Ha!
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07:17:49 PM | tic-toc | We know your passwords Robbie, don't worry....lol
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07:18:03 PM | _Jot_ | I'll just won't tell anybody my master password is Jot and then leave it here in the chatlogs so my benificiary can find it
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07:18:16 PM | spiceJax | Ia Maeghan spelled correctly?
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07:18:46 PM | _Jot_ | yes
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07:18:47 PM | invinciblemutant | any guarantee?
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07:19:11 PM | kiwitux | So I need to change my master password from '123456'?
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07:19:18 PM | spiceJax | Irish I guess?
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07:19:43 PM | _Jot_ | kiwitux, that's not 1234 so it should be secure, right?
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07:20:09 PM | spiceJax | Tux!
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07:20:10 PM | invinciblemutant | insurance, if hacked????
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07:20:17 PM | kiwitux | _Jot_, good to know that.
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07:21:31 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - SashaD Do these short links remain for a long time after the show in case ppl watch it a year later and wish to use the link?
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07:22:18 PM | invinciblemutant | wow
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07:22:22 PM | spiceJax | Anybody using Operas password manager?
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07:22:24 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, usually they stay as long as possible
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07:22:47 PM | GoodGuy | Cool thank you _Jot_
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07:22:56 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, 'password' and '1234' are fine passwords for you
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07:23:16 PM | invinciblemutant | the link again please
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07:23:43 PM | _Jot_ | http://cat5.tv/password
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07:23:53 PM | Guest20143 | RobbieF if they can "unlock" your account in the event of your death, do they store your key or have a master key that decrypts?
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07:24:09 PM | talky_toaster | _Jot_: That's a pretty good idea for passwords
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07:24:11 PM | invinciblemutant | my password is r066ief
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07:24:42 PM | _Jot_ | I think they don't keep passwords, but only allow you to log in, so the system checks that. And if somebody else tries their password, it won't work unless you are dead
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07:24:50 PM | kiwitux | Hey Guys, How cold is it there?
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07:25:09 PM | invinciblemutant | PasswordBox is only available for Chrome versions 31 and above. Please update your browser and try again.
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07:25:15 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, your sides look great too!
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07:25:25 PM | GoodGuy | very cold here in Michigan and they are probably colder yet
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07:25:46 PM | invinciblemutant | i am on elementary OS, i think the graphic is perfect
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07:25:47 PM | _Jot_ | it's around water-freezing-termperature here
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07:25:52 PM | ajamison5579 | they are Canadian they are immune to cold
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07:25:54 PM | kiwitux | I thought she said that they manually checked for a death certificate and then allowed a person you had previously nominated.
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07:25:55 PM | ajamison5579 | :)
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07:27:35 PM | _Jot_ | I think it's logical of logmein to do this, since their service was abused a lot by scammers and phishers
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07:27:40 PM | invinciblemutant | i hate companies like that
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07:27:55 PM | invinciblemutant | giving free services initially, then start charging
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07:28:21 PM | Guest20143 | Yes but how would they decrypt without the password. She said they did not know your password or store unencrypted data. They also say they cannot decrypt if you forget your password. So I was wondering how they were able to decrypt in the event of your death?
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07:29:11 PM | ajamison5579 | they said that you generate a secondary master key that you give to the person you have set as your legacy contact
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07:29:15 PM | _Jot_ | Guest20143, earlier they said you would have a master password, and your friend would have one, that would work when you pass on
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07:29:18 PM | tic-toc | I respect you Sasha, now give me $49.00
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07:29:28 PM | ajamison5579 | that secondary key is not usable until they verify your death
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07:29:43 PM | invinciblemutant | one year for yearly budget
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07:29:43 PM | Guest20143 | thanks ajamison5579 that makes sense, I missed that part
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07:29:53 PM | invinciblemutant | so that people can put that in the next year budget
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07:30:10 PM | invinciblemutant | hey, any news about galaxy glasses
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07:30:31 PM | ajamison5579 | I am getting a galacy Gear not sure about glasses though
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07:30:37 PM | invinciblemutant | rumour that samsung's galaxy glasses will hit the market faster than google glasses
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07:30:52 PM | GoodGuy | What is a Galaxy Gear.. a watch?
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07:31:05 PM | _Jot_ | galaxy gear is samsungs name for portable stuff
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07:31:10 PM | GoodGuy | ok
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07:31:12 PM | invinciblemutant | good guy...a smart watch
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07:31:16 PM | ajamison5579 | yes a smart watch and the ultimate sink hole for tech junkies like myself
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07:31:22 PM | GoodGuy | love tech toys
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07:31:33 PM | GoodGuy | I still need a tablet
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07:31:39 PM | _Jot_ | I have a smart watch, that i can program remotely, except it cost me $25, normally it costs $50
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07:32:01 PM | invinciblemutant | u will feel you are like robocop having these glasses
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07:32:11 PM | _Jot_ | and with program remotely, I mean its a computer with an LCD display, so I can program it entirely
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07:32:16 PM | GoodGuy | Google will buy Password Box lol
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07:32:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Google will be the Skynet of the real world you just wait and see
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07:32:37 PM | invinciblemutant | google class tell this is robbie, his hair was on top, now drops due to gravity
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07:32:38 PM | GoodGuy | They want to make cash off a Robot Army for the USA
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07:32:43 PM | rats_ | RobbieF: Could you please sit a little closer to SashaD http://imagebin.org/289619
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07:32:43 PM | tic-toc | SkyRim
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07:33:18 PM | GoodGuy | US wants to use Robot soldiers instead of real humans
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07:33:41 PM | invinciblemutant | i think the first google glasses were invented and wore by Robocop
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07:33:47 PM | GoodGuy | not a complete replacement, but field a fair number that have human logic
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07:34:30 PM | ajamison5579 | GoodGuy they are allready working on a suit that enhances strength and endurance through Neumatic assisted hydrolics
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07:34:41 PM | GoodGuy | I saw that
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07:34:42 PM | rats_ | Thank You
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07:34:47 PM | _Jot_ | wow, SashaD, you can see with your eyes closed!
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07:34:57 PM | talky_toaster | Say ... my setup looks like that.
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07:35:11 PM | GoodGuy | These were real robots that can have human logic patterns downloaded to them
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07:35:18 PM | tic-toc | Never watched it
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07:35:20 PM | ajamison5579 | Doctor Who
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07:35:21 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, http://shop.category5.tv
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07:35:38 PM | ajamison5579 | The oldest Question, the first question: Doctor Who?
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07:35:49 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you know with the code 'grandopening' without the quotes, will get you a 10% discount on that store?
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07:36:01 PM | GoodGuy | I have five of the exacy same shirt from 2001 and still looks great
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07:36:14 PM | GoodGuy | whatever they used for material was great
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07:36:16 PM | tic-toc | Do you sell Category5 long johns with trap doors?
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07:36:18 PM | GoodGuy | exact
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07:36:21 PM | invinciblemutant | hey room, tomorrow is chinese new year eve, i wish all chinese and those celebrating 'Happy Chinese New year'
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07:36:44 PM | invinciblemutant | the year of 'Horse' will fall in 2 days
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07:36:45 PM | _Jot_ | If you want discount cards instead, http://cat5.tv/studio is still available too and you can donate as well to http://cat5.tv/c
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07:36:59 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief can you get lifesize cardboard cutouts of the Cat 5 cast members?
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07:37:05 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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07:37:29 PM | talky_toaster | Say ... where's that photo stream RobbieF was talking about earlier. Just registered on the website and cannot find it.
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07:37:38 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison, you can buy one of the shots and blow that up I guess?
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07:37:56 PM | _Jot_ | talky_toaster, it's under the members section
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07:38:03 PM | talky_toaster | Hmmmm
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07:38:22 PM | _Jot_ | members and then photo gallery? or do you mean the photos of the episodes? those are available under each episode
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07:38:24 PM | kiwitux | That's RobbieF's radio DJ voice.
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07:38:26 PM | GoodGuy | no 2XL? the US population eats well or not well I suppose
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07:38:29 PM | talky_toaster | He said it was a live updating stream
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07:38:37 PM | GoodGuy | eats too much
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07:38:38 PM | ajamison5579 | I am going to get one and put it in my front yard with a sign that says this home is protected by Angry Canadians! Given the stereo type here in the states that Canadians never get mad it will likely scare the crap out of people
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07:38:58 PM | invinciblemutant | any mac users around ?
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07:39:03 PM | _Jot_ | Under interact there is also the photobooth
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07:39:11 PM | invinciblemutant | how to do screencast ?
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07:39:17 PM | invinciblemutant | screencast on mac
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07:39:26 PM | invinciblemutant | or screencast on linux
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07:39:45 PM | Guest20143 | invinciblemutant, Quicktime, but you should use linux instead
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07:40:03 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF: you make it sound so good1
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07:40:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | !
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07:40:07 PM | ajamison5579 | "This advertisement for Ultramizer Pro has been brought to you by Robbie Ferguson"
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07:40:14 PM | tic-toc | nice rack
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07:40:17 PM | GoodGuy | That looks expensive
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07:40:17 PM | invinciblemutant | quicktime does not work on mac?
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07:40:35 PM | talky_toaster | Remember during the episode they both paused to get a picture? RobbieF said it was auto updating the website (I think he said that).
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07:40:50 PM | GoodGuy | apple made quicktime, so you can bet it does
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07:41:06 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, is that one of those amazing stickers from http://shop.category5.tv ?
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07:41:15 PM | ajamison5579 | Apple also had a huge hand in creating USB along side Intel
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07:41:19 PM | kiwitux | Does it have a 'flux capacitor' or is that an optional extra
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07:41:50 PM | ajamison5579 | Kiwitux that is in the optional "No one calls me Chicken" BTF package
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07:42:05 PM | tic-toc | Yeah but it's hard to get it to 88mph
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07:42:07 PM | _Jot_ | it wouldn't work anyway, since it doesn't go to 88
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07:42:32 PM | ajamison5579 | Tic-toc it has been modified to work at 88Mhz
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07:43:23 PM | tic-toc | We cant hear you now Robbie...what did you do?
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07:43:33 PM | _Jot_ | maybe the show broke :)
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07:43:54 PM | invinciblemutant | hopefully RobbieF does not screw up the setting during the show
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07:44:40 PM | tic-toc | don't puch the big red button
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07:44:43 PM | SashaD | you can hear now right?
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07:44:46 PM | kiwitux | Yes if it ain't broke don't change it!
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07:44:46 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, I hope so also, the music already was broken too
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07:45:03 PM | tic-toc | No.
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07:45:13 PM | tic-toc | No sound now
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07:45:14 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, we can hear just fine, that was just when RobbieF was quiet to demonstrate the -48 setting
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07:45:14 PM | ajamison5579 | When this babby reaches 88hz your going to see some real spartks
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07:45:17 PM | ajamison5579 | sparks
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07:45:18 PM | invinciblemutant | ask him to demo the (1) button
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07:45:22 PM | invinciblemutant | press on that
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07:46:06 PM | _Jot_ | see, it only goes to 80, not 88
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07:46:06 PM | tic-toc | lol
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07:46:10 PM | GoodGuy | He is kidding
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07:46:29 PM | talky_toaster | April fools!
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07:46:43 PM | tic-toc | gotcha....:)
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07:47:11 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: is there any software that do the same?
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07:47:45 PM | _Jot_ | I'm sure people could make software that does the same since they emulate almost everything else
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07:47:46 PM | ajamison5579 | Or you can use the Trek communicator and have Spok teleport down and fix it for you
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07:48:08 PM | invinciblemutant | mac does it well is it?
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07:49:17 PM | invinciblemutant | split the audio and video, level it and combine
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07:49:23 PM | tic-toc | Levelator ---I'll be back
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07:49:31 PM | invinciblemutant | ic...your constraint is live streaming
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07:50:26 PM | tic-toc | yuk.....mat'e
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07:50:35 PM | ajamison5579 | Gday Matte
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07:50:49 PM | ajamison5579 | sorry could not resist that stero typical Aussie Phrase
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07:51:00 PM | _Jot_ | okay, who went and replaced RobbieF with a french person? What happened there SashaD?
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07:51:17 PM | invinciblemutant | you bun too...
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07:51:34 PM | talky_toaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pi_HRk5OXk
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07:51:49 PM | talky_toaster | Mate as in friend or Mate as in tea
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07:53:31 PM | _Jot_ | wow, was that music I heard??? :)
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07:53:44 PM | ajamison5579 | what is Music
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07:55:30 PM | _Jot_ | apparently, thats different for everyone, although most people have some idea about it when they hear it
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07:57:56 PM | kiwitux | Does it work with Linux?
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07:58:04 PM | RobbieF | It should? :)
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07:58:23 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the difference between desktop gamming and cloud
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07:58:41 PM | GoodGuy | Scribus
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07:58:57 PM | invinciblemutant | do you mean having a pwoerful graphic card, u get a better experiecne
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07:59:05 PM | invinciblemutant | cloud does the same right
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07:59:07 PM | invinciblemutant | ?
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07:59:46 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF Packt has a book on that
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07:59:52 PM | kiwitux | Following up from linux.conf.au, search github for HDMI2USB is based on FPGA demo platform
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08:00:04 PM | _Jot_ | cloud usually means running the game on a powerful system with a powerful graphics card, and then streaming the result to another computer
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08:00:21 PM | _Jot_ | Seeing SashaD is always nice too!
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08:00:38 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: we dont need a power graphic card
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08:00:40 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF, Full Circle had a free ebook on Scribus also iirc
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08:00:47 PM | invinciblemutant | leave everything over the cloud
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08:00:50 PM | Guest20143 | Photoshop vs GIMP?
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08:00:50 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:00:52 PM | RobbieF | thanks everyone!
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08:01:02 PM | IMTech5 | Great show as always! Thanks @RobbieF and SashaD!
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08:01:10 PM | SashaD | Thank you everyone : )
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08:01:14 PM | invinciblemutant | who will be the next co host
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08:01:17 PM | IMTech5 | Later everyone...
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08:01:19 PM | SashaD | That was a super fast hour!!
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08:01:38 PM | kiwitux | Cheers all. Keep up the good work.
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08:01:40 PM | _Jot_ | it always goes fast with nice people
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08:01:45 PM | tic-toc | What, I didn't hear that
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08:01:50 PM | rats_ | GoodGuy: What issue of Full Circe was the Scribus tut
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08:02:00 PM | invinciblemutant | good show..gonna dash out
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08:02:11 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, of course you can stomach a whole one! You are a growing girl and everything
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08:02:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great Show RobbieF and SashaD
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08:02:53 PM | ABQTKY | All OS/2 users have known about SCR-EYE-BUS for years! Nice to hear a mention of OS/2 though!
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08:02:58 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - Did you catch the comment that Full Circle has a free ebook on using Scribus?
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08:03:02 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, normally such books make me feel bad because their life is actually better than mine :)
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08:03:36 PM | GoodGuy | It was a special edition rats_
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08:03:40 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, you brought your laptop because you wanted to see if it could run linux if i remember correctly
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08:03:53 PM | _Jot_ | the radio is off now so I can't remind you of more things :)
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08:04:18 PM | GoodGuy | http://fullcirclemagazine.org/tag/special/
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08:04:29 PM | GoodGuy | look on that web page
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08:04:38 PM | SashaD | Jot.... nope, there is no way your life is as bad as hers. Its a horrible depressing read. And totally addicting
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08:04:50 PM | rats_ | Thank you GoodGuy
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08:04:51 PM | SashaD | Perfect... Thanks Jot!!
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08:05:19 PM | GoodGuy | http://fullcirclemagazine.org/scribus-special-edition/
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08:05:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy: I like Full Circle mag
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08:05:35 PM | GoodGuy | That is a direct link.... both pdf and epub
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08:05:43 PM | GoodGuy | I do also Dennis_Kelley
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08:05:55 PM | talky_toaster | GoodGuy: Good link. Didn't know about this online mag or podcast.
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08:06:05 PM | GoodGuy | Now you do :-)
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08:06:24 PM | talky_toaster | bookmarked ! :-)
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08:06:26 PM | GoodGuy | PCLinuxOS has a nice free magazine as well
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08:06:42 PM | rats_ | I mut have missed that one.
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08:06:43 PM | robgor | great show robbief and sashad
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08:06:43 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, not wanting to complain, but I life alone, have no friends, family or acquintances except some people online, and I'm not allowed to do anything in life or have any chances, so I have to keep myself busy alone untill I die, so yeah, it can get worse, but not a lot :)
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08:06:51 PM | rats_ | ty
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08:06:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy: where is that at?
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08:07:03 PM | SashaD | are you in jail?
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08:07:05 PM | GoodGuy | also a free BSD magazine
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08:07:14 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, I wish, then I would have more rights
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08:07:38 PM | SashaD | oh no..... I'm a member of Amnesty International, maybe we can help!!!
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08:07:41 PM | rats_ | RobbieF: & SashaD good show
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08:07:51 PM | SashaD | Thanks Rats : )
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08:07:58 PM | RobbieF | Thank you rats_
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08:07:59 PM | rats_ | yw
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08:08:34 PM | talky_toaster | _Jot_: sounds like you're married :-)
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08:08:37 PM | _Jot_ | oh, and not to mention I still get money for being unfit for work, but they are looking into cancelling that for everybody in the same situation, and then I'd get the same money, but be forced to work as a slave, so without getting paid, and paying for the priviledge, risking no money for up to 3 months if I say anything bad or don't look appropriately dressed or anything
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08:09:05 PM | talky_toaster | Yeap ... you're married
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08:09:09 PM | _Jot_ | heh, if I was married, then at least I'd be talk to somebody :)
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08:09:17 PM | _Jot_ | be able to
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08:09:25 PM | talky_toaster | I'm just fooling :-)
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08:09:53 PM | SashaD | Oh dear.... I truly hope things start to look up for you. You are such a great guy... you deserve all good things
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08:09:55 PM | _Jot_ | I don't want to complain because I don't want to get depressed and such, but just saying most bad situations would be an improvement :)
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08:09:57 PM | GoodGuy | talked at is probably a more accurate desc .. just kidding
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08:10:22 PM | _Jot_ | At the moment I actually feel very priviledged for being able to talk to nice people like everybody at category5 and the community etc
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08:11:00 PM | RobbieF | _Jot_ distance may separate us, but we're friends. Real, true friends. Don't be so hard on yourself man.
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08:11:06 PM | SashaD | I have to get Password Box asap
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08:11:18 PM | _Jot_ | http://cat5.tv/password :)
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08:11:46 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I know, and usually it is not as bad as it sounds, don't worry :)
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08:12:28 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:12:55 PM | _Jot_ | oh, I have some good news, the pirate bay blocking in my country has been banned for now, so the ISPs are no longer required to block it, for as long as that lasts
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08:13:18 PM | robgor | hmm looks like the Dell Workstation is out of the question at the prices they want, looks like I will be building a pc myself
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08:13:53 PM | GoodGuy | A lot of great Youtube videos on building PC's
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08:14:19 PM | robgor | yeah goodguy not a problem with me have built alot myself
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08:14:26 PM | GoodGuy | neat
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08:14:58 PM | GoodGuy | I haven't built a whole pc, but changed pieces in the past
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08:15:14 PM | GoodGuy | This PC was assembled by a small shop
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08:15:24 PM | robgor | was just thinking if I could get a workstation for around the same prices as building it would go that was and save a little time
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08:15:41 PM | GoodGuy | no cable management and I dread going inside
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08:15:59 PM | GoodGuy | The power supply is a PC Power and Cooling
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08:16:16 PM | GoodGuy | mot modular and the case it is a rats nest
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08:16:20 PM | GoodGuy | not
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08:17:11 PM | GoodGuy | I just purchased 4 GB memory and someday I'll get motivated and install it
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08:17:33 PM | GoodGuy | Due to the cold, the static in our house is terrible
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08:18:10 PM | robgor | yeah well I dont have that problem atm, definatly not cold
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08:18:20 PM | GoodGuy | Last night I was sleeping with a cover sheet and I saw a flash of white light
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08:18:48 PM | GoodGuy | after figuring out I didn't just die, I realized it was severe static lol
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08:19:08 PM | _Jot_ | also known as lightning :)
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08:19:15 PM | GoodGuy | Yep
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08:19:30 PM | GoodGuy | Never saw it off a bed sheet and that bright
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08:19:58 PM | _Jot_ | there might even be a burn mark somewhere
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08:20:01 PM | GoodGuy | Years ago I used to work as a mainframe programmer
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08:20:31 PM | GoodGuy | They installed short carpets and the static was just awful
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08:21:05 PM | GoodGuy | We bought anti-static spray, sprayed it and two hours later it was just as bad again
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08:21:18 PM | robgor | anyone using zorinos ?
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08:21:31 PM | Guest20143 | RobbieF: Is the shop US or Canadian dollars?
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08:21:36 PM | RobbieF | Canadian.
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08:21:38 PM | GoodGuy | We used to shuffle our feet and touch a coworker.... the shocks actually hurt
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08:21:51 PM | RobbieF | Thanks for prompting me Guest20143 - I'll add that to the site so it's clear.
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08:22:16 PM | GoodGuy | I tried it in the past and had some trouble with the search box in the menus iirc
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08:22:20 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, might also want to do that to http://cat5.tv/studio since there it isn't clear either
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08:22:22 PM | Guest20143 | Thank you RobbieF, I wasn't sure if it was detecting location :)
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08:22:45 PM | robgor | I ordered a shirt and some stickers. Might put a sticker on my laptop :)
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08:22:53 PM | _Jot_ | I found out the CAD isn't worth much either, compared to euros at the moment, a few weeks ago, it was only 35 euros
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08:23:33 PM | _Jot_ | nice robgor :) I put my money in the other campaign this month, but I want stuff from the store too, so I'm glad it is there now
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08:23:37 PM | SashaD | That's super awesome robgor!!! Maybe the lower Can $ will work to our benefit : )
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08:24:07 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, thanks for making the show really nice, and adding something good to it as well :)
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08:24:20 PM | SashaD | Thank you Jot : )
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08:25:05 PM | robgor | well the $AUS is only worth 0.88 $US at one stage it was on par with the $US :(
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08:25:40 PM | SashaD | I don't know how much I add currently.... I'm slightly technologically stunted!
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08:25:49 PM | _Jot_ | I'm sure that isn't due to the australian dollar :)
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08:26:02 PM | SashaD | But Im happy you are enjoying the show : )
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08:26:02 PM | RobbieF | Let's get SashaD to install Linux on this new laptop of hers, shall we?
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08:26:19 PM | _Jot_ | make sure to make a video of it so you can put it on the show
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08:26:26 PM | GoodGuy | It used to be worth more.. I bought a Pascal compilers from the Australian Atomic Energy Commission years ago.. it was $100 Aus and it was $119 US iirc
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08:26:42 PM | SashaD | I think we will be doing it live, the next time I'm on : ) :)
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08:26:51 PM | RobbieF | Definitely _Jot_ - a feature or series for sure.
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08:26:58 PM | robgor | hmm might put the CAT5 poster with the gold and diamond incrusted frame in my home office :)
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08:27:02 PM | RobbieF | And the "Windows to Linux conversion" play by play.
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08:27:12 PM | GoodGuy | Robbie should do a show on Easy2Boot
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08:27:33 PM | SashaD | That would be cool GoodGuy
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08:27:34 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, you add a lot, becasue a lot of people who don't know much about computers might feel overwhelmed and not so much if they see not so technical people are welcome too and participate etc
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08:27:48 PM | GoodGuy | awesome program and she can run Linux off a flash drive .... multiple distros also
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08:27:49 PM | SashaD | Thank you!
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08:28:23 PM | RobbieF | No - we'll do a full dual-boot
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08:28:29 PM | RobbieF | CONVERT, not "test"
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08:28:54 PM | GoodGuy | Have you seen Easy2Boot RobbieF ?
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08:29:04 PM | _Jot_ | poor laptop, it will actually have to work for a change and not wait on windows all the time
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08:29:07 PM | rats_ | Good tjinking RobbieF
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08:29:28 PM | rats_ | Thinking
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08:29:35 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/72---easyboot---a-grubdos-multiboot-drive-that-is-easy-to-maintain/e2bv1
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08:30:09 PM | GoodGuy | Neatest multi boot USB drive software
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08:30:51 PM | SashaD | I am so so so new to all of this. It's hilarious how I don't yet understand anything you are all saying!
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08:31:01 PM | SashaD | Except Jot lol
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08:31:25 PM | _Jot_ | its about not just installing linux, but also keeping windows for when you need it, on the laptop
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08:32:46 PM | _Jot_ | to do that, you need to add a menu so you can say I want to boot linux, or I want to boot windows, and one of those is called grub
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08:33:57 PM | SashaD | ohhhhh.... that makes sense!
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08:34:59 PM | _Jot_ | its pretty easy to do too, if you have linux on the computer and then install windows, windows will replace any menu you have, and not let you start linux, but the other way around, linux will see you have windows and add that to grub automaticly
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08:35:51 PM | _Jot_ | now you know that, you can make a smart remark saying it probably wouldn't be so easy to do if you install windows, when that situation comes :)
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08:38:05 PM | GoodGuy | night all
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08:38:33 PM | spiceJax | How to pick the Linux for a Windows convert aka newbie?
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08:39:12 PM | SashaD | Good night everyone.... thank you for all the fun this evening, and I will see you soon!
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08:39:15 PM | spiceJax | Zorin? PClinuxOs? MINT16?
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08:39:16 PM | _Jot_ | a lot of people would say ubuntu, but i think thats not so good lately due to how they changed stuff
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08:39:20 PM | _Jot_ | same to you SashaD
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08:39:39 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF has been running point linux, so that is what you see when he demonstrates something
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08:40:47 PM | _Jot_ | generally, as long as your internet works, and you know how to install stuff, you can find everything you need for the linux you like
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08:41:11 PM | spiceJax | I have Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity and I think its too different for a newbie
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08:41:13 PM | _Jot_ | and, you can try them out in virtual machines to see which one you like first, without risking your computer
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08:42:03 PM | spiceJax | seems the hard part is getting the 'right' window manager I like KDE
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08:43:21 PM | spiceJax | the other thing is 'apps', finding Linux equivlents
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08:45:33 PM | _Jot_ | yes, not all of them have that, but a great many do
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08:45:50 PM | _Jot_ | and finding them if any exists can be half the battle sometimes :)
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08:45:53 PM | spiceJax | Linux has so much choice. but finding is the hard part. This naming of software is a learning in it self
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08:45:57 PM | robgor | spicejax try zorinos as it has a windows look feature and a new zersion has come out http://zorin-os.com/
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08:47:10 PM | RobbieF | Just post producing the music into the episode intro and extro now... our tablet (which plays the music) wouldn't turn on tonight before the show. :(
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08:47:51 PM | spiceJax | I have tried zorin and probley will change from Ubuntu. This machine has PCLinuxOS Full Monty
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08:48:06 PM | _Jot_ | the tablet probably became an ex-parrot. I mean tablet
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08:48:33 PM | spiceJax | I yhink Zorin will be good for Sasha
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08:48:39 PM | robgor | spicejas are you wanting to change to linux from windows?
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08:49:08 PM | robgor | spicejax are you wanting to change to linux from windows?
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08:50:40 PM | _Jot_ | I hope they will end up talking about differences and what would be best for her to find out their thinking :)
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08:51:12 PM | spiceJax | I have two laptops both dual boot one vista with wubi and one with PCLinuxOS Vista (in bootorder)
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08:52:21 PM | robgor | ah ok
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08:52:29 PM | _Jot_ | I've been experimenting with network-booting, which didn't work too well at first, but now somebody else did some work so I have my unraid set up for that, so I don't need to dualboot anymore :)
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08:52:29 PM | rats_ | I think Kubuntu would be a good thing for Sasha
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08:52:39 PM | spiceJax | I'm trying to duplicate what I use on windows with Linux software then kiss Vista goodbye
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08:53:35 PM | rats_ | not to much different than Windows - just shinnier
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08:54:00 PM | _Jot_ | unless you have stuff that only runs on vista, theres a lot worse things you could do
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08:54:10 PM | _Jot_ | I mean, vista is about the worst of the current operating systems
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08:54:33 PM | spiceJax | finding a clipboard manager like clipmate is my main problem
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08:55:04 PM | _Jot_ | linux has much better clipboard-handling than windows I think
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08:55:08 PM | spiceJax | Yup Vista I'm Hatin it lol
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08:55:58 PM | _Jot_ | for example http://www.category5.tv/episodes/212.php
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08:56:32 PM | _Jot_ | it even has music and an intro and extro and everything, we don't even get that these days :P
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08:57:54 PM | spiceJax | here what I use on Vista http://m8software.com/clipboards/spartan/spartanlite.htm
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08:58:00 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_: how do we cast our ballet for the contest tonight
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08:59:25 PM | _Jot_ | email live@category5.tv with the title 'ballot for passwordbox' and have the email you used to register there included in the email
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09:00:31 PM | _Jot_ | so pretty much same as always. And including your registered user name (the category5 username) is helpful too so RobbieF can say who won :)
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09:01:28 PM | _Jot_ | I'm not entirely sure if RobbieF specified it all, like I said, but if he didn't he might want to say it again next week properly and delay it
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09:02:05 PM | RobbieF | Hey _Jot_, I'm pretty sure I was clear.
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09:02:11 PM | RobbieF | even repeated myself for accuracy :)
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09:02:28 PM | RobbieF | just make sure you use http://cat5.tv/password as the link
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09:02:31 PM | spiceJax | btw, can I use X-chat with this room?
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09:02:32 PM | _Jot_ | probably :) I wasn't listening all the time since it was a lot of sales-talk and I wasn't going to participate anyway
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09:02:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | and redundancy
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09:02:47 PM | RobbieF | :-D
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09:02:59 PM | _Jot_ | you can use any IRC client that connects with freenode
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09:03:52 PM | spiceJax | I'll try it later, thanks
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09:04:39 PM | GWG_ | Work is over
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09:04:40 PM | GWG_ | Finally
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09:04:51 PM | _Jot_ | I've been looking at clipboard managers for linux, and there are literally dozens, open source and everything, so you shouldn't have a problem finding one
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09:05:39 PM | RavenLords | hello
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09:05:49 PM | _Jot_ | hey RavenLords
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09:05:55 PM | _Jot_ | time for fun GWG :)
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09:06:00 PM | _Jot_ | and food :)
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09:06:11 PM | spiceJax | Jot, point me to them. I have klipper
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09:06:11 PM | RobbieF | heya Ravenlords and GWG
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09:06:42 PM | RavenLords | how are you robbie
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09:06:51 PM | spiceJax | and all the others (just a few) are about the same
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09:06:58 PM | _Jot_ | try googling linux clipboard manager, for example here is a list for some on archlinux: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/clipboard
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09:07:05 PM | RobbieF | Doing well thanks RavenLords -- how about you?
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09:07:47 PM | RavenLords | im ok just geting pist at this firewall of my
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09:07:54 PM | RobbieF | Oldie but a goodie re. Clipboards in Linux - http://www.category5.tv/episodes/212.php
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09:08:11 PM | RobbieF | Firewall giving you hard times?
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09:08:25 PM | spiceJax | ok I'll tgry again. the ones in the repos are kind of basic
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09:08:45 PM | RavenLords | i can not get the Port Forward to work
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09:10:51 PM | _Jot_ | normally all you have to do to get that to work is specify the port, and the IP-address of the computer you want to forward to, in the router
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09:11:07 PM | spiceJax | I am trying to wrap my head around installing a tarball, but the tuts are always assuming that your system has everything. I seem to be missing "configure"
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09:11:14 PM | _Jot_ | and, that may include specifying UDP or TCP, or both, and incoming or outgoing
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09:11:37 PM | _Jot_ | you mean make config?
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09:11:38 PM | RobbieF | tarball is just like "zip"
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09:11:51 PM | RobbieF | it's what is in the tarball (think, zip) that you build.
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09:11:55 PM | RavenLords | its a dell poweredge 2659 with pf sense on it
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09:12:02 PM | RobbieF | the command is: ./configure
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09:12:06 PM | RobbieF | not configure
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09:12:10 PM | RobbieF | (don't forget the ./)
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09:12:24 PM | RobbieF | and MAY require sudo
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09:13:17 PM | spiceJax | nope ./configure it is spoused to be in the tarball?
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09:13:24 PM | RobbieF | no
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09:13:32 PM | RobbieF | you have to untar (think, unzip) the files from the tar
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09:13:41 PM | RobbieF | into a folder
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09:13:45 PM | RobbieF | then run ./configure in that folder
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09:14:06 PM | spiceJax | robe I did type ./configure lol
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09:14:12 PM | RobbieF | and?
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09:14:37 PM | _Jot_ | maybe this would be something that would look great on the show, and RobbieF could connect to the computer and demonstrate it, so you can see how it works :)
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09:14:56 PM | spiceJax | and I was in the dir that the tarball extacted to
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09:15:41 PM | RobbieF | spicejax - I mean, "and" = what was the output? What happened?
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09:15:42 PM | spiceJax | If I haven't got it by next month lol
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09:17:17 PM | spiceJax | [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# ./configure bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
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09:18:10 PM | _Jot_ | I'd do an ls configure
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09:18:30 PM | RobbieF | well there you have it :)
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09:18:36 PM | spiceJax | The pkg is a gui to config conky
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09:18:59 PM | RobbieF | is there a web link to the package so I can see its contents?
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09:18:59 PM | _Jot_ | probably untarring it has been done, but it didn't give the proper rights to execute things, thats a precaution against virusses and malware
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09:19:20 PM | RobbieF | yes, that's possible. chmod +x configure
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09:19:27 PM | RobbieF | then ./configure
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09:19:33 PM | RobbieF | but also possible the file simply doesn't exist
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09:19:39 PM | RobbieF | would help to see the tarball
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09:19:40 PM | spiceJax | [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# ls configure ls: cannot access configure: No such file or directory
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09:19:46 PM | RobbieF | there ya go
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09:19:50 PM | RobbieF | tarball please?
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09:19:59 PM | _Jot_ | http://sourceforge.net/projects/conkygui/ and http://conkygui.sourceforge.net/
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09:20:26 PM | RobbieF | ./install
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09:20:27 PM | _Jot_ | tarballs at http://sourceforge.net/projects/conkygui/files/tarbz2/
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09:20:44 PM | RobbieF | oh wait - it's all caps
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09:20:46 PM | RobbieF | ./INSTALL
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09:21:12 PM | RobbieF | but this is a jar
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09:21:14 PM | RobbieF | no install needed
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09:21:18 PM | RobbieF | you just run it in javavm
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09:21:24 PM | spiceJax | [root@localhost conkyguiv1.3.1]# chmod +x configure chmod: cannot access ‘configure’: No such file or directory
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09:21:25 PM | RobbieF | but you need java
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09:21:49 PM | RobbieF | sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre scala-library
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09:22:02 PM | RobbieF | then: chmod u+x conkygui.sh
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09:22:07 PM | RobbieF | then: ./conkygui.sh
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09:22:20 PM | RobbieF | no making or configuring: it's a java app
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09:22:56 PM | _Jot_ | it even has instructions to install (if you can call it that) at http://conkygui.sourceforge.net/pages/install
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09:24:14 PM | _Jot_ | oh, I had something interesting with linux lately as well :)
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09:24:56 PM | _Jot_ | I have a Texas Instruments Chronos watch, that I can program, and I can program it over the air as well, except that it wouldn't work, because the accesspoint doesn't have the proper firmware somehow, due to a bad batch or something
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