| 06:58:02 PM | tachos_ | hello all
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| 06:58:08 PM | _Jot_ | hi tachos_
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| 06:58:19 PM | IMTech5 | Hi tachos!
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| 06:58:24 PM | TheChrista | Hey folks!
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| 06:58:50 PM | IMTech5 | Hi @TheChrista!
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| 06:58:54 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista, I heared this show has awesome TheChrista on it, so what else awesom would we need?
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| 06:59:34 PM | maxwell6307 | hi all
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| 06:59:34 PM | invinciblemutant | i can see TheChrista owning an iphone white :P
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| 06:59:45 PM | _Jot_ | youtube and VLC are about 30 seconds behind on raqdio
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| 06:59:47 PM | robgor | Hi TheChrista, you exicted about using Linux and the Gimp on tonights show ?
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| 06:59:49 PM | invinciblemutant | glowing apple logo
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| 07:00:10 PM | gpop7 | Hello everybody
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| 07:00:22 PM | IMTech5 | hi gpop7
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| 07:00:41 PM | IMTech5 | We are live....
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| 07:00:49 PM | gpop7 | hi Imtech5
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| 07:01:06 PM | gpop7 | and here we go
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| 07:01:26 PM | _Jot_ | mark radio ( I think)
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| 07:01:42 PM | _Jot_ | mark youtube
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| 07:01:52 PM | _Jot_ | mark VLC
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| 07:02:32 PM | _Jot_ | that's http://www.category5.tv (how else did you get here?) http://m.cat5.tv for mobiles
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| 07:03:11 PM | _Jot_ | the merch store: http://shop.category5.tv
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| 07:03:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | hi RobbieF and TheChrista
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| 07:04:22 PM | _Jot_ | I'll be sure to leave a review for my businesscards as soon as I get them :)
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| 07:04:51 PM | invinciblemutant | anything geeky in the shop??
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| 07:05:13 PM | _Jot_ | you'll have to look for yourself, but I think there's stuff for everyone. At least stuff almost everybody will use
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| 07:05:24 PM | IMTech5 | lol _Jot_
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| 07:06:00 PM | invinciblemutant | iconia
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| 07:06:09 PM | IMTech5 | Waiting patiently for my stitch tee...
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| 07:06:30 PM | invinciblemutant | flash it with ubuntu !!!
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| 07:07:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | rick rolled
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| 07:07:38 PM | invinciblemutant | TheChrista: you should bring your along your macbook for comparison
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| 07:07:39 PM | IMTech5 | LOL!
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| 07:07:40 PM | _Jot_ | for the gimp: http://gimp.org or your repository
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| 07:08:37 PM | _Jot_ | for windows: http://nightly.darkrefraction.com/gimp/
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| 07:09:25 PM | invinciblemutant | is it on macport?
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| 07:09:31 PM | invinciblemutant | perhaps it is on macport
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| 07:10:09 PM | _Jot_ | there appear downloads on the gimp.org website too, for both windows and mac, so not sure why RobbieF wants us to go to other sites
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| 07:10:27 PM | invinciblemutant | yea
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| 07:10:36 PM | invinciblemutant | if you are using macport, it is there on macport too
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| 07:10:46 PM | invinciblemutant | www.macports.org for mac users
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| 07:11:00 PM | invinciblemutant | you can run linux ports on your mac
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| 07:11:28 PM | invinciblemutant | on your mac type: sudo port install gimp
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| 07:11:34 PM | invinciblemutant | after installing macports
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| 07:15:50 PM | maxwell6307 | its frozen
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| 07:16:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | does anyone know how dave maydew is doing?
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| 07:16:06 PM | _Jot_ | what is, maxwell?
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| 07:16:29 PM | invinciblemutant | the dots are too small to see when zoomout
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| 07:16:34 PM | maxwell6307 | video froze for a second, its ok now
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| 07:17:21 PM | _Jot_ | VLC does that a lot, youtube not so much, weird thing is youtube download later will be fine and not show any delay
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| 07:17:54 PM | kiwitux | Stream has stopped here
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| 07:18:17 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I thought you'd go out right now and take pictures of rocks, that would have been an interesting experiment :)
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| 07:22:37 PM | JaePea | hi all
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| 07:22:51 PM | _Jot_ | hey JaePea
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| 07:24:10 PM | IMTech5 | Hi JaePea
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| 07:28:11 PM | IMTech5 | Come on Youtube...
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| 07:28:23 PM | JaePea | is show freezing for others
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| 07:28:25 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, that froze for me too this time :)
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| 07:28:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yep
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| 07:28:32 PM | IMTech5 | Yes...
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| 07:28:33 PM | keckeckec | back on now...
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| 07:28:34 PM | sprintcowboy | froze here too
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| 07:29:00 PM | keckeckec | VLC stopped too
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| 07:29:03 PM | _Jot_ | oh, refreshing says youtube has technical difficulties. Good news, the VLC link works fine
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| 07:30:16 PM | IMTech5 | Trying VLC now...
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| 07:30:40 PM | _Jot_ | youtube just came back fortunatly
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| 07:30:46 PM | invinciblemutant | perhaps robbief has exceeded the quota
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| 07:30:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i restarted youtube and it is working
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| 07:30:59 PM | _Jot_ | it's still way behind thoug,h on youtube for me
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| 07:31:09 PM | maxwell6307 | me too
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| 07:31:19 PM | keckeckec | VLC is back on too
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| 07:31:21 PM | IMTech5 | Missed some of the demo :(
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| 07:31:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | there needs to be a Tie Fighter in there somewhere
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| 07:31:45 PM | _Jot_ | fortunatly you can always watch it later on category5.tv and download many episodes, down to season 3 or so at the moment
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| 07:32:05 PM | IMTech5 | Yep! :)
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| 07:32:48 PM | _Jot_ | so for those reading this and thinking what are they talking about, well, you missed it. Watch live sometime :)
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| 07:33:59 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista, the problem is they get too much information, so they can't use the information they have now, and missed the attacks that happened that they did have information about, plus they have to act on stuff they never would act on otherwise, just in case.
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| 07:36:30 PM | _Jot_ | I should make an app and send it to RobbieF and TheChrista and see who buys the most :)
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| 07:37:02 PM | TheChrista | Haha, you can try Jot...I'm one of those ppl who won't buy anything through an app
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| 07:37:21 PM | _Jot_ | For the password system: http://cat5.tv/password (check it out)
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| 07:37:26 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Drawbot
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| 07:37:46 PM | _Jot_ | Drawbot drew from email this week :)
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| 07:38:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am using Passwordbox. Love it!
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| 07:38:31 PM | invinciblemutant | ccsd?
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| 07:39:03 PM | JaePea | lastpass better too me
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| 07:39:37 PM | GoodGuy | to you
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| 07:40:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I have no more WinXP in my house! My wife is using PointLinux
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| 07:40:25 PM | GoodGuy | video keeps pausing
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| 07:40:40 PM | _Jot_ | great job Dennis_Kelley, now she has to watch category5 too!
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| 07:40:57 PM | invinciblemutant | congrats the winner
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| 07:41:13 PM | sprintcowboy | video keeps pausing for me too
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| 07:41:34 PM | JaePea | win7/mint duel boot
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| 07:41:40 PM | Jim_Gregory | video is pausing for me as well
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| 07:41:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_: not yet! Tuesdays are my days to work in my lab.
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| 07:41:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello GoodGuy
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| 07:42:02 PM | GoodGuy | hello Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:42:02 PM | IMTech5 | Me too... video pausing..
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| 07:42:03 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, she has a computer, she can watch :)
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| 07:42:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_: she would be lost!
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| 07:42:46 PM | GoodGuy | Can you promise they won't havk into the NEW systems?
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| 07:42:51 PM | GoodGuy | hack
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| 07:43:25 PM | JaePea | utube = fubar
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| 07:44:09 PM | Dennis_Kelley | that is cool
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| 07:44:54 PM | IMTech5 | Nice!
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| 07:49:07 PM | GoodGuy | video R.I.P.
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| 07:49:24 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF's head was exttremely shiny, and out of focus, but the background was amazing
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| 07:50:33 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: gimp it, put shadow on it
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| 07:50:50 PM | _Jot_ | TheChrista, you wear makeup? I thought you just looked naturally amazing
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| 07:51:31 PM | invinciblemutant | wow, thumbprints
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| 07:53:00 PM | _Jot_ | invinciblemutant, that's what the episode was like :)
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| 07:53:13 PM | IMTech5 | I would try xubuntu...
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| 07:53:17 PM | invinciblemutant | puppylinux?
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| 07:54:18 PM | invinciblemutant | i am on elementary os
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| 07:54:52 PM | _Jot_ | If you want to help with donations, go to the store at http://shop.category5.tv and to donate for the studio go to http://cat5.tv/studio and of course you can also donate at http://cat5.tv/c (or just spend money on all of those)
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| 07:54:53 PM | invinciblemutant | fantastic desktop
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| 07:56:43 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you could still get virusses on it, because there are iso's/cds and floppies with virusses as well
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| 08:01:29 PM | IMTech5 | Thanks for the great show @RobbieF and @TheChrista! Good night!
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| 08:01:31 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: what is the themeyou are using on conky
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| 08:01:48 PM | invinciblemutant | looks nicwe
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| 08:01:51 PM | invinciblemutant | nice
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| 08:01:51 PM | RobbieF | It's screenlets, not conky
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| 08:01:55 PM | IMTech5 | Good night everyone...
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| 08:01:56 PM | _Jot_ | email live@category5.tv with the subject 'I want wirecase' and don't forget to include your registered username
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| 08:02:39 PM | gpop7 | Good show. Have a great week everyone. See you next week.
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| 08:02:53 PM | _Jot_ | but TheChrista, you use photoshop, not the gimp?
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| 08:03:02 PM | robgor | great show as always RobbieF TheChrista
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| 08:03:15 PM | alpeck | great show. see ya next week
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| 08:03:18 PM | BobK54 | great show! see you next week
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| 08:03:23 PM | invinciblemutant | great show
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| 08:03:24 PM | sprintcowboy | Thanks for the show
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| 08:03:39 PM | invinciblemutant | just a good mix with christa around
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| 08:03:40 PM | GWG | RobbieF: Were you looking fme?
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| 08:03:45 PM | GWG | for me
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| 08:04:18 PM | invinciblemutant | i thnk TheChrista should demonstrate gimp as an computer graphic artist
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| 08:04:36 PM | JaePea | bye guys and gals
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| 08:04:41 PM | _Jot_ | bye JaePea
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| 08:04:49 PM | _Jot_ | I am not sure she can invinciblemutant :)
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| 08:05:16 PM | invinciblemutant | if she cant, I would think gimp s too hard for general audience
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| 08:05:35 PM | _Jot_ | I mean she is capable, but its not photoshop :)
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| 08:05:44 PM | invinciblemutant | then why showing something that even a pro cant handle
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| 08:06:08 PM | ABQTKY | Next episode in less than 167 hours!!
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| 08:06:15 PM | sprintcowboy | Bye all
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| 08:06:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | great show RobbieF
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| 08:06:28 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Great show TheChrista
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| 08:07:21 PM | _Jot_ | I think I'd grow bored and fall asleep way before 167 hours are up waiting for a new show :)
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| 08:08:09 PM | invinciblemutant | _Jot_: time flies
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| 08:08:39 PM | _Jot_ | sometimes it does indeed
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| 08:09:01 PM | invinciblemutant | ok...i gonna leave
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| 08:09:07 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice time invinciblemutant
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| 08:09:08 PM | invinciblemutant | to get back to work now
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| 08:09:18 PM | _Jot_ | well, have a nice time anyway :P
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| 08:09:21 PM | invinciblemutant | great show, great people in the chatroom
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| 08:09:23 PM | invinciblemutant | cya
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| 08:09:34 PM | invinciblemutant | thanks _Jot_
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| 08:09:35 PM | invinciblemutant | bye
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| 08:11:11 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 08:13:55 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF, nice show
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| 08:14:03 PM | RobbieF | Thanks _Jot_ - hope you had fun
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| 08:14:58 PM | _Jot_ | yes, I did! I put in some marks, at the appropriate time, only the radio didn't have audio so that I'm not entirely sure about if it was to the second
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| 08:15:04 PM | RobbieF | :) Thanks.
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| 08:15:13 PM | RobbieF | what? Radio was dead air?!
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| 08:15:38 PM | _Jot_ | radio was fine, but the microphones were on during the leader-thing so I didn't hear that start
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| 08:15:46 PM | RobbieF | ah
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| 08:15:46 PM | invinciblemutant | how to get midori working with youtube
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| 08:15:52 PM | robgor | robbief wont be dealing with large CAD files I dont think and yes it will be over gigabit network. Dont really want to go with an off the shelf like drobo as I had a ReadyNAS device and that was very slow. Plus for the price they are asking I could build a nice i5 system
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| 08:16:18 PM | RobbieF | I'd say any decent redundant solution will do nicely then robgor, to be honest.
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| 08:16:36 PM | RobbieF | And make sure you have a backup of the array itself (or at least, the stuff that you can't lose)
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| 08:16:51 PM | RobbieF | Think: Redundancy will help if a drive crashes. Backups (off-site) will help if we have a fire.
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| 08:16:56 PM | robgor | yeah with my freenas I get about 40mbytes transfer
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| 08:17:41 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, most NAS-systems, even if they come with gigabit, often even can't get a 10mbit connection full with data, because their processors often are too slow
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| 08:18:05 PM | robgor | yeah, that why I thought of going a NAS or FileServer, have the data in one place and will be easier to backup instead of backing up two machines
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| 08:18:19 PM | RobbieF | absolutely
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| 08:18:37 PM | RobbieF | we even have our /home/Documents and /home/Music and /home/Pictures and /home/Videos mounted to server shares!
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| 08:19:31 PM | RobbieF | on the server I have ./Documents/Robbie and ./Documents/Bekah ... each of our computers mount our own folder respectively, and I backup ./Documents on the server every 1 minute (it scans for any changes and immediately syncs them with our offsite backup - a Pogoplug)
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| 08:19:38 PM | robgor | Jot though the ReadyNAS is fairly only, only had 256mb RAM not sure what the Processor was and the speed
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| 08:21:10 PM | _Jot_ | its why I went with unraid, because even though it still can be slower, you still get the speed of one harddisk while reading
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| 08:21:32 PM | robgor | the one benefit these of the shelf NAS has is power usage very low
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| 08:22:47 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, differences used to be very big with that, but if you build a new system, you can get an apu or something and use almost nothing as well
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| 08:23:10 PM | _Jot_ | and if you use a lot of drives, with systems like unraid, it powers down the drives not used after a while, so that doesn't matter a lot either
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| 08:23:31 PM | robgor | Jot I got a FreeNAS that is setup using ZFS the one downside of ZFS is that you need 1gig RAM for each TB of storage, though that isnt a problem with mine, I have 16gb RAM in it
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| 08:23:47 PM | _Jot_ | seriously, the powercompany contacted me because my powerusage suddenly was so low, it was not realistic according to them so they wanted to know why that happened :)
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| 08:24:46 PM | _Jot_ | that's a lot of ram :) my system has 10 drives in it or so, with a total of 14TB or so, but only 2GB of memory
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| 08:24:59 PM | robgor | Jot have you been using someone else's power : lol
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| 08:25:31 PM | _Jot_ | no, fortunatly not :) I think it helped they fixed the heating, so that probably uses a lot less power, and I disconnected some computers now i don't use them a lot anymore
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| 08:27:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF do you find your pogoplug is slow. mine is always processing data on my one drive i have plugged into it.
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| 08:27:48 PM | RobbieF | No, because I disabled that.
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| 08:27:53 PM | RobbieF | (multimedia features)
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| 08:28:09 PM | RobbieF | if you have the multimedia stuff on it will scan and create thumbnails, streamable format videos, etc.
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| 08:28:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i will look into that
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| 08:28:13 PM | RobbieF | I just use it for backup
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| 08:28:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | oh ok
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| 08:28:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | brb - got to change computers
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| 08:29:59 PM | robgor | Jot my NAS I have 6 drives in it for a total of 8.6TB of available storage, used 2.3TB atm
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| 08:30:48 PM | _Jot_ | I'm using about 11TB at the moment, I could take 2 drives out, which is about 1.5TB of storage, but oh well :)
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| 08:32:35 PM | robgor | Jot transfering a 7.5gig file from my NAS to my Desktop getting around 50MB/sec
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| 08:33:08 PM | _Jot_ | on my computer I get a bit slower speeds, due to it being an ancient processor :)
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| 08:33:29 PM | _Jot_ | I tend to get about 30MB/sec, I had the HTPC motherboard in there with an APU, then I would get about 20MB/sec or so at most
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| 08:33:41 PM | _Jot_ | it's also the first APU they made, so no suprise there either
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| 08:35:01 PM | robgor | Jot transfer from my desktop back to my NAS getting 25MB/sec so a fair slowdown
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| 08:36:00 PM | _Jot_ | oh yeah, reading I get about 80-100MB/sec and verification also about that speed, or up to 150MB/sec
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| 08:36:29 PM | _Jot_ | for smaller files obviously the speed is a lot less :)
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| 08:37:16 PM | _Jot_ | also I tend to use teracopy, because I'm on windows and I figure I just want to make sure, when I move stuff, so that takes a bit. That doesn't affect the speed though, but it does affect time
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| 08:40:39 PM | _Jot_ | now I'm used to the speed, but before I bought a few media-players, which act as NAS because they have harddrives in it, and they were so slow, I just had to try something else cause putting files on there was horrible
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| 08:42:13 PM | _Jot_ | even playing files from the unraid was too slow to be usable, for those players, which was a disappointment, but confirmed for me I made the right choice :)
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| 08:52:35 PM | RobbieF | Gotta run guys. Files are going GREAT (I love you, Vimeo) :)
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| 08:52:45 PM | _Jot_ | too bad for the contents?
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| 08:52:48 PM | RobbieF | gonna watch Person of Interest with Bekah while the show files upload.
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| 08:52:50 PM | RobbieF | :)
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| 08:52:53 PM | RobbieF | then come back and do the notes
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| 08:53:01 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice time RobbieF, greetings to Ms. Amazing Writer
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| 08:53:04 PM | RobbieF | Thanks
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| 08:53:07 PM | robgor | yeah I use to stream content from my FreeNAS to my Boxee Box and it performs great, this is over wifi streaming Bluray content
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| 08:54:04 PM | robgor | but unfortunatly my Boxee Box has died :( Have to look at getting a replacement for it, though wont be getting another Boxee
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| 08:55:01 PM | _Jot_ | annoying when things die, that's why I got that APU board and made my own htpc, with a case that looks like it belongs in the livingroom with an LCD-display and everything
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| 08:57:46 PM | robgor | yeah the Boxee Box the first one it died and couldnt switch it on, got another one under warranty. Unfortunatly the replacement died out of warranty so not sure if its a common problem with them. I took it apart hoping it was fixable but wasnt, found a burn mark on the board :(
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| 08:58:17 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, could be a design-flaw in them
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| 08:58:27 PM | _Jot_ | I haven't googled it, but I guess it doesn't really matter
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| 08:58:49 PM | robgor | Jot goto go, luch time seya next time
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| 08:58:50 PM | _Jot_ | there's unfortunatly a lot of stuff that dies due to bad components
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| 08:58:55 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice lunch robgor
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| 08:59:01 PM | robgor | thanks
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