Chat Logs for Episode 333 — #Category5 on /


With 69 Posts:_Jot_
With 39 Posts:invinciblemutant
With 21 Posts:RobbieF
With 19 Posts:Dennis_Kelley
With 18 Posts:IMTech5

Chat Logs:

06:58:02 PMtachos_ hello all
06:58:08 PM_Jot_ hi tachos_
06:58:19 PMIMTech5 Hi tachos!
06:58:24 PMTheChrista Hey folks!
06:58:50 PMIMTech5 Hi @TheChrista!
06:58:54 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, I heared this show has awesome TheChrista on it, so what else awesom would we need?
06:59:34 PMmaxwell6307 hi all
06:59:34 PMinvinciblemutant i can see TheChrista owning an iphone white :P
06:59:45 PM_Jot_ youtube and VLC are about 30 seconds behind on raqdio
06:59:47 PMrobgor Hi TheChrista, you exicted about using Linux and the Gimp on tonights show ?
06:59:49 PMinvinciblemutant glowing apple logo
07:00:10 PMgpop7 Hello everybody
07:00:22 PMIMTech5 hi gpop7
07:00:41 PMIMTech5 We are live....
07:00:49 PMgpop7 hi Imtech5
07:01:06 PMgpop7 and here we go
07:01:26 PM_Jot_ mark radio ( I think)
07:01:42 PM_Jot_ mark youtube
07:01:52 PM_Jot_ mark VLC
07:02:32 PM_Jot_ that's (how else did you get here?) for mobiles
07:03:11 PM_Jot_ the merch store:
07:03:45 PMDennis_Kelley hi RobbieF and TheChrista
07:04:22 PM_Jot_ I'll be sure to leave a review for my businesscards as soon as I get them :)
07:04:51 PMinvinciblemutant anything geeky in the shop??
07:05:13 PM_Jot_ you'll have to look for yourself, but I think there's stuff for everyone. At least stuff almost everybody will use
07:05:24 PMIMTech5 lol _Jot_
07:06:00 PMinvinciblemutant iconia
07:06:09 PMIMTech5 Waiting patiently for my stitch tee...
07:06:30 PMinvinciblemutant flash it with ubuntu !!!
07:07:33 PMDennis_Kelley rick rolled
07:07:38 PMinvinciblemutant TheChrista: you should bring your along your macbook for comparison
07:07:39 PMIMTech5 LOL!
07:07:40 PM_Jot_ for the gimp: or your repository
07:08:37 PM_Jot_ for windows:
07:09:25 PMinvinciblemutant is it on macport?
07:09:31 PMinvinciblemutant perhaps it is on macport
07:10:09 PM_Jot_ there appear downloads on the website too, for both windows and mac, so not sure why RobbieF wants us to go to other sites
07:10:27 PMinvinciblemutant yea
07:10:36 PMinvinciblemutant if you are using macport, it is there on macport too
07:10:46 PMinvinciblemutant for mac users
07:11:00 PMinvinciblemutant you can run linux ports on your mac
07:11:28 PMinvinciblemutant on your mac type: sudo port install gimp
07:11:34 PMinvinciblemutant after installing macports
07:15:50 PMmaxwell6307 its frozen
07:16:04 PMDennis_Kelley does anyone know how dave maydew is doing?
07:16:06 PM_Jot_ what is, maxwell?
07:16:29 PMinvinciblemutant the dots are too small to see when zoomout
07:16:34 PMmaxwell6307 video froze for a second, its ok now
07:17:21 PM_Jot_ VLC does that a lot, youtube not so much, weird thing is youtube download later will be fine and not show any delay
07:17:54 PMkiwitux Stream has stopped here
07:18:17 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, I thought you'd go out right now and take pictures of rocks, that would have been an interesting experiment :)
07:22:37 PMJaePea hi all
07:22:51 PM_Jot_ hey JaePea
07:24:10 PMIMTech5 Hi JaePea
07:28:11 PMIMTech5 Come on Youtube...
07:28:23 PMJaePea is show freezing for others
07:28:25 PM_Jot_ yeah, that froze for me too this time :)
07:28:29 PMDennis_Kelley yep
07:28:32 PMIMTech5 Yes...
07:28:33 PMkeckeckec back on now...
07:28:34 PMsprintcowboy froze here too
07:29:00 PMkeckeckec VLC stopped too
07:29:03 PM_Jot_ oh, refreshing says youtube has technical difficulties. Good news, the VLC link works fine
07:30:16 PMIMTech5 Trying VLC now...
07:30:40 PM_Jot_ youtube just came back fortunatly
07:30:46 PMinvinciblemutant perhaps robbief has exceeded the quota
07:30:53 PMDennis_Kelley i restarted youtube and it is working
07:30:59 PM_Jot_ it's still way behind thoug,h on youtube for me
07:31:09 PMmaxwell6307 me too
07:31:19 PMkeckeckec VLC is back on too
07:31:21 PMIMTech5 Missed some of the demo :(
07:31:30 PMDennis_Kelley there needs to be a Tie Fighter in there somewhere
07:31:45 PM_Jot_ fortunatly you can always watch it later on and download many episodes, down to season 3 or so at the moment
07:32:05 PMIMTech5 Yep! :)
07:32:48 PM_Jot_ so for those reading this and thinking what are they talking about, well, you missed it. Watch live sometime :)
07:33:59 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, the problem is they get too much information, so they can't use the information they have now, and missed the attacks that happened that they did have information about, plus they have to act on stuff they never would act on otherwise, just in case.
07:36:30 PM_Jot_ I should make an app and send it to RobbieF and TheChrista and see who buys the most :)
07:37:02 PMTheChrista Haha, you can try Jot...I'm one of those ppl who won't buy anything through an app
07:37:21 PM_Jot_ For the password system: (check it out)
07:37:26 PMDennis_Kelley Drawbot
07:37:46 PM_Jot_ Drawbot drew from email this week :)
07:38:04 PMDennis_Kelley I am using Passwordbox. Love it!
07:38:31 PMinvinciblemutant ccsd?
07:39:03 PMJaePea lastpass better too me
07:39:37 PMGoodGuy to you
07:40:24 PMDennis_Kelley I have no more WinXP in my house! My wife is using PointLinux
07:40:25 PMGoodGuy video keeps pausing
07:40:40 PM_Jot_ great job Dennis_Kelley, now she has to watch category5 too!
07:40:57 PMinvinciblemutant congrats the winner
07:41:13 PMsprintcowboy video keeps pausing for me too
07:41:34 PMJaePea win7/mint duel boot
07:41:40 PMJim_Gregory video is pausing for me as well
07:41:41 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_: not yet! Tuesdays are my days to work in my lab.
07:41:53 PMDennis_Kelley Hello GoodGuy
07:42:02 PMGoodGuy hello Dennis_Kelley
07:42:02 PMIMTech5 Me too... video pausing..
07:42:03 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, she has a computer, she can watch :)
07:42:29 PMDennis_Kelley _Jot_: she would be lost!
07:42:46 PMGoodGuy Can you promise they won't havk into the NEW systems?
07:42:51 PMGoodGuy hack
07:43:25 PMJaePea utube = fubar
07:44:09 PMDennis_Kelley that is cool
07:44:54 PMIMTech5 Nice!
07:49:07 PMGoodGuy video R.I.P.
07:49:24 PM_Jot_ RobbieF's head was exttremely shiny, and out of focus, but the background was amazing
07:50:33 PMinvinciblemutant _Jot_: gimp it, put shadow on it
07:50:50 PM_Jot_ TheChrista, you wear makeup? I thought you just looked naturally amazing
07:51:31 PMinvinciblemutant wow, thumbprints
07:53:00 PM_Jot_ invinciblemutant, that's what the episode was like :)
07:53:13 PMIMTech5 I would try xubuntu...
07:53:17 PMinvinciblemutant puppylinux?
07:54:18 PMinvinciblemutant i am on elementary os
07:54:52 PM_Jot_ If you want to help with donations, go to the store at and to donate for the studio go to and of course you can also donate at (or just spend money on all of those)
07:54:53 PMinvinciblemutant fantastic desktop
07:56:43 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, you could still get virusses on it, because there are iso's/cds and floppies with virusses as well
08:01:29 PMIMTech5 Thanks for the great show @RobbieF and @TheChrista! Good night!
08:01:31 PMinvinciblemutant RobbieF: what is the themeyou are using on conky
08:01:48 PMinvinciblemutant looks nicwe
08:01:51 PMinvinciblemutant nice
08:01:51 PMRobbieF It's screenlets, not conky
08:01:55 PMIMTech5 Good night everyone...
08:01:56 PM_Jot_ email with the subject 'I want wirecase' and don't forget to include your registered username
08:02:39 PMgpop7 Good show. Have a great week everyone. See you next week.
08:02:53 PM_Jot_ but TheChrista, you use photoshop, not the gimp?
08:03:02 PMrobgor great show as always RobbieF TheChrista
08:03:15 PMalpeck great show. see ya next week
08:03:18 PMBobK54 great show! see you next week
08:03:23 PMinvinciblemutant great show
08:03:24 PMsprintcowboy Thanks for the show
08:03:39 PMinvinciblemutant just a good mix with christa around
08:03:40 PMGWG RobbieF: Were you looking fme?
08:03:45 PMGWG for me
08:04:18 PMinvinciblemutant i thnk TheChrista should demonstrate gimp as an computer graphic artist
08:04:36 PMJaePea bye guys and gals
08:04:41 PM_Jot_ bye JaePea
08:04:49 PM_Jot_ I am not sure she can invinciblemutant :)
08:05:16 PMinvinciblemutant if she cant, I would think gimp s too hard for general audience
08:05:35 PM_Jot_ I mean she is capable, but its not photoshop :)
08:05:44 PMinvinciblemutant then why showing something that even a pro cant handle
08:06:08 PMABQTKY Next episode in less than 167 hours!!
08:06:15 PMsprintcowboy Bye all
08:06:18 PMDennis_Kelley great show RobbieF
08:06:28 PMDennis_Kelley Great show TheChrista
08:07:21 PM_Jot_ I think I'd grow bored and fall asleep way before 167 hours are up waiting for a new show :)
08:08:09 PMinvinciblemutant _Jot_: time flies
08:08:39 PM_Jot_ sometimes it does indeed
08:09:01 PMinvinciblemutant ok...i gonna leave
08:09:07 PM_Jot_ have a nice time invinciblemutant
08:09:08 PMinvinciblemutant to get back to work now
08:09:18 PM_Jot_ well, have a nice time anyway :P
08:09:21 PMinvinciblemutant great show, great people in the chatroom
08:09:23 PMinvinciblemutant cya
08:09:34 PMinvinciblemutant thanks _Jot_
08:09:35 PMinvinciblemutant bye
08:11:11 PMRobbieF :)
08:13:55 PM_Jot_ hey RobbieF, nice show
08:14:03 PMRobbieF Thanks _Jot_ - hope you had fun
08:14:58 PM_Jot_ yes, I did! I put in some marks, at the appropriate time, only the radio didn't have audio so that I'm not entirely sure about if it was to the second
08:15:04 PMRobbieF :) Thanks.
08:15:13 PMRobbieF what? Radio was dead air?!
08:15:38 PM_Jot_ radio was fine, but the microphones were on during the leader-thing so I didn't hear that start
08:15:46 PMRobbieF ah
08:15:46 PMinvinciblemutant how to get midori working with youtube
08:15:52 PMrobgor robbief wont be dealing with large CAD files I dont think and yes it will be over gigabit network. Dont really want to go with an off the shelf like drobo as I had a ReadyNAS device and that was very slow. Plus for the price they are asking I could build a nice i5 system
08:16:18 PMRobbieF I'd say any decent redundant solution will do nicely then robgor, to be honest.
08:16:36 PMRobbieF And make sure you have a backup of the array itself (or at least, the stuff that you can't lose)
08:16:51 PMRobbieF Think: Redundancy will help if a drive crashes. Backups (off-site) will help if we have a fire.
08:16:56 PMrobgor yeah with my freenas I get about 40mbytes transfer
08:17:41 PM_Jot_ yeah, most NAS-systems, even if they come with gigabit, often even can't get a 10mbit connection full with data, because their processors often are too slow
08:18:05 PMrobgor yeah, that why I thought of going a NAS or FileServer, have the data in one place and will be easier to backup instead of backing up two machines
08:18:19 PMRobbieF absolutely
08:18:37 PMRobbieF we even have our /home/Documents and /home/Music and /home/Pictures and /home/Videos mounted to server shares!
08:19:31 PMRobbieF on the server I have ./Documents/Robbie and ./Documents/Bekah ... each of our computers mount our own folder respectively, and I backup ./Documents on the server every 1 minute (it scans for any changes and immediately syncs them with our offsite backup - a Pogoplug)
08:19:38 PMrobgor Jot though the ReadyNAS is fairly only, only had 256mb RAM not sure what the Processor was and the speed
08:21:10 PM_Jot_ its why I went with unraid, because even though it still can be slower, you still get the speed of one harddisk while reading
08:21:32 PMrobgor the one benefit these of the shelf NAS has is power usage very low
08:22:47 PM_Jot_ yeah, differences used to be very big with that, but if you build a new system, you can get an apu or something and use almost nothing as well
08:23:10 PM_Jot_ and if you use a lot of drives, with systems like unraid, it powers down the drives not used after a while, so that doesn't matter a lot either
08:23:31 PMrobgor Jot I got a FreeNAS that is setup using ZFS the one downside of ZFS is that you need 1gig RAM for each TB of storage, though that isnt a problem with mine, I have 16gb RAM in it
08:23:47 PM_Jot_ seriously, the powercompany contacted me because my powerusage suddenly was so low, it was not realistic according to them so they wanted to know why that happened :)
08:24:46 PM_Jot_ that's a lot of ram :) my system has 10 drives in it or so, with a total of 14TB or so, but only 2GB of memory
08:24:59 PMrobgor Jot have you been using someone else's power : lol
08:25:31 PM_Jot_ no, fortunatly not :) I think it helped they fixed the heating, so that probably uses a lot less power, and I disconnected some computers now i don't use them a lot anymore
08:27:33 PMDennis_Kelley RobbieF do you find your pogoplug is slow. mine is always processing data on my one drive i have plugged into it.
08:27:48 PMRobbieF No, because I disabled that.
08:27:53 PMRobbieF (multimedia features)
08:28:09 PMRobbieF if you have the multimedia stuff on it will scan and create thumbnails, streamable format videos, etc.
08:28:10 PMDennis_Kelley i will look into that
08:28:13 PMRobbieF I just use it for backup
08:28:20 PMDennis_Kelley oh ok
08:28:30 PMDennis_Kelley brb - got to change computers
08:29:59 PMrobgor Jot my NAS I have 6 drives in it for a total of 8.6TB of available storage, used 2.3TB atm
08:30:48 PM_Jot_ I'm using about 11TB at the moment, I could take 2 drives out, which is about 1.5TB of storage, but oh well :)
08:32:35 PMrobgor Jot transfering a 7.5gig file from my NAS to my Desktop getting around 50MB/sec
08:33:08 PM_Jot_ on my computer I get a bit slower speeds, due to it being an ancient processor :)
08:33:29 PM_Jot_ I tend to get about 30MB/sec, I had the HTPC motherboard in there with an APU, then I would get about 20MB/sec or so at most
08:33:41 PM_Jot_ it's also the first APU they made, so no suprise there either
08:35:01 PMrobgor Jot transfer from my desktop back to my NAS getting 25MB/sec so a fair slowdown
08:36:00 PM_Jot_ oh yeah, reading I get about 80-100MB/sec and verification also about that speed, or up to 150MB/sec
08:36:29 PM_Jot_ for smaller files obviously the speed is a lot less :)
08:37:16 PM_Jot_ also I tend to use teracopy, because I'm on windows and I figure I just want to make sure, when I move stuff, so that takes a bit. That doesn't affect the speed though, but it does affect time
08:40:39 PM_Jot_ now I'm used to the speed, but before I bought a few media-players, which act as NAS because they have harddrives in it, and they were so slow, I just had to try something else cause putting files on there was horrible
08:42:13 PM_Jot_ even playing files from the unraid was too slow to be usable, for those players, which was a disappointment, but confirmed for me I made the right choice :)
08:52:35 PMRobbieF Gotta run guys. Files are going GREAT (I love you, Vimeo) :)
08:52:45 PM_Jot_ too bad for the contents?
08:52:48 PMRobbieF gonna watch Person of Interest with Bekah while the show files upload.
08:52:50 PMRobbieF :)
08:52:53 PMRobbieF then come back and do the notes
08:53:01 PM_Jot_ have a nice time RobbieF, greetings to Ms. Amazing Writer
08:53:04 PMRobbieF Thanks
08:53:07 PMrobgor yeah I use to stream content from my FreeNAS to my Boxee Box and it performs great, this is over wifi streaming Bluray content
08:54:04 PMrobgor but unfortunatly my Boxee Box has died :( Have to look at getting a replacement for it, though wont be getting another Boxee
08:55:01 PM_Jot_ annoying when things die, that's why I got that APU board and made my own htpc, with a case that looks like it belongs in the livingroom with an LCD-display and everything
08:57:46 PMrobgor yeah the Boxee Box the first one it died and couldnt switch it on, got another one under warranty. Unfortunatly the replacement died out of warranty so not sure if its a common problem with them. I took it apart hoping it was fixable but wasnt, found a burn mark on the board :(
08:58:17 PM_Jot_ yeah, could be a design-flaw in them
08:58:27 PM_Jot_ I haven't googled it, but I guess it doesn't really matter
08:58:49 PMrobgor Jot goto go, luch time seya next time
08:58:50 PM_Jot_ there's unfortunatly a lot of stuff that dies due to bad components
08:58:55 PM_Jot_ have a nice lunch robgor
08:59:01 PMrobgor thanks


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