06:58:13 PM | _Jot_ | VLC is at 6:57:30 now
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06:58:20 PM | keckeckec | I felt a cold coming on last night, but downed Vit C and all better now.
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06:58:25 PM | _Jot_ | Rob just said thank 26 seconds
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06:58:42 PM | _Jot_ | so no idea how much difference that is :P
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06:59:16 PM | _Jot_ | hey people, you should all join the category 5 tv chatroom
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06:59:27 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF just said tell my friends, so I did :P
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07:00:00 PM | agamotto | I would, but most of my friends aren't 'cool' enough for our kind of podcast
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07:00:10 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF Thanks to your lessons on Synergy, I got 4 computers and one keyboard/mouse setup
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07:00:28 PM | _Jot_ | very useful Dennis_Kelley
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07:00:32 PM | keckeckec | Synergy is awesome
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07:00:34 PM | RobbieF | Nice Dennis_Kelley!
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07:01:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes but I just have to remember which was to move my mouse to the computer I want
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07:01:16 PM | jaepea | hi folks
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07:01:27 PM | _Jot_ | mark radio intro
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07:01:31 PM | IMTech5 | Hi All.... made it...
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07:01:39 PM | _Jot_ | mark youtube
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07:01:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | hello IMTech5
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07:02:04 PM | _Jot_ | hey IMTech5
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07:02:12 PM | IMTech5 | Hi Dennis_Kelly
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07:02:13 PM | _Jot_ | sorry RobbieF, I didn't make it, I only broke it
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07:02:18 PM | IMTech5 | Hey _Jot_
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07:02:18 PM | Garbee | Ok RobbieF I showed up.
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07:02:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF is in a waving mood!
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07:03:10 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I'm cooking cause I'm hungry, sorry the smell iso distracting
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07:03:12 PM | acessweb | hello been out for a while
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07:03:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD - I called that an egg in the hole as a kid
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07:04:15 PM | _Jot_ | Babies are often late, as far as I know. I suspect sometimes they say earlier so people are actually prepared in time for them
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07:05:14 PM | _Jot_ | so that's http://cat5.tv/iaib for those wondering :)
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07:05:27 PM | mindlord | Been awhile people. Good to be back.
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07:05:51 PM | _Jot_ | oh, and http://cat5.tv/gplus and http://cat5.tv/facebook for social medias if you like that kind of thing and there's a twitter thing too
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07:06:01 PM | IMTech5 | Hi mindlord...
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07:06:28 PM | agamotto | Hmmmm, I might if I had a moblie device, but from what I hear on the news, I should be quite happy I have a stupidphone...
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07:07:04 PM | _Jot_ | don't worry agamotto, they can still track you
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07:07:21 PM | agamotto | I was thinking more about being attacked or shot for my phone
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07:08:09 PM | _Jot_ | oh, that'll happen too, unfortunatly
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07:08:44 PM | mindlord | Stolen dumbphones make great "burners" or so I hear....
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07:08:54 PM | _Jot_ | I like the store! It's at http://store.category5.tv and people can also donate through http://cat5.tv/studio and through http://cat5.tv/c
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07:09:33 PM | agamotto | I was considering moving to an Android phone, but too many problems with bad software and security issues for my tastes
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07:09:40 PM | poopy_pants | Poop ...maybe I should stop changing my nick all the time?
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07:09:52 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Hello :)
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07:09:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello RobbieF
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07:09:56 PM | agamotto | Having said that, I am a bit concerned about the GnuTLS think
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07:09:59 PM | agamotto | thing, even
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07:10:40 PM | _Jot_ | pants, might want to change those too
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07:10:41 PM | poopy_pants | Ha!
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07:10:45 PM | jaepea | hi guyhz
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07:10:52 PM | _Jot_ | hey jeapea
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07:11:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Little bit of a Lag
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07:11:43 PM | _Jot_ | I bet SashaD stores everything in that useful folder on the desktop called 'Recycle Bin'
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07:11:46 PM | agamotto | Nah, I think 1800 - 1900 would be dinner anywhere
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07:11:54 PM | poopy_pants | ha ha ha ha ha!
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07:12:00 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: It is 7-8 here
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07:12:11 PM | poopy_pants | Oh, my gosh ... that's great!
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07:12:14 PM | agamotto | point made
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07:12:23 PM | invinciblemutant | big lag here
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07:12:27 PM | GWG_ | Dinner isn't till 10
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07:12:36 PM | invinciblemutant | still trying, could be the campus network
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07:12:48 PM | agamotto | I would hate to see my intestines if I waited that long...
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07:13:06 PM | poopy_pants | agamotto: holy crap!
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07:13:07 PM | GWG_ | Next week, I start working till 10
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07:13:16 PM | invinciblemutant | intestines spilled out?
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07:13:20 PM | agamotto | I know! Put /home on a USB stick!
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07:13:49 PM | GWG_ | So dinner is at 11
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07:14:01 PM | agamotto | Nah, just thinking that if I had dinner at 2200, I would be up until at least 0200 digesting
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07:14:24 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: I don't have to be at work till 1:30 now
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07:15:04 PM | agamotto | GWG_: Nice... I float between 0900 - 1800, and 1200 - 2100. Very nice for retail
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07:15:37 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: We're expanding our hours, so I'll be doing 1:30-10 except on Mondays when I get to leave early
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07:15:52 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you can of course also just buy a proper sized SSD, since they aren't that expensive anymore these days :)
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07:16:07 PM | agamotto | _Jot_: good point
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07:16:08 PM | poopy_pants | Man ... I gotta get me one o' those. Solid state hard drive.
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07:16:12 PM | Garbee | _Jot_: Some people still would fill up a 120GB HDD.
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07:16:13 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: Why a 9 hour day?
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07:16:17 PM | Garbee | HDD/SSD*
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07:16:25 PM | keckeckec | And do backups
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07:16:28 PM | agamotto | I put one in my mum's laptop... big difference
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07:16:29 PM | mindlord | Jot: I'd rather use that space for installing games.
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07:16:33 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: Is that s standard 40 hour week?
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07:16:36 PM | _Jot_ | I fill up a 256GB drive so yeah, 120GB isn't big these days :)
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07:16:40 PM | agamotto | GWG_: One hour lunch in the middle
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07:17:32 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: Paid or unpaid?
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07:18:00 PM | poopy_pants | Yea ... I distro hop ... a LOT
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07:18:07 PM | Garbee | Note on distro hopping: Watch the configs.
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07:18:16 PM | Garbee | The ones from different OSes can conflict and cause issues.
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07:18:31 PM | Garbee | So you may need to drop things like .gnome or .config/gnome between distros.
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07:18:31 PM | agamotto | GWG_: unpaid, but worth it. Despite my being overweight, I have very good bloodwork on my physicals due to my insistence on not eating 'fast' food. If it doesn't take at least 30min to prepare and eat, I usually won't touch it
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07:18:38 PM | poopy_pants | Garbee: you bet ... I was bitten by this a few times.
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07:18:50 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: I get a 30 minute unpaid lunch. That is where 8.5 hours comes from
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07:19:22 PM | agamotto | GWG_: Most of the people at our store do that... surprising number of them take antacids
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07:19:29 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: I don't get a choice
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07:19:38 PM | GWG_ | When I work at home, I make a proper lunch
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07:19:55 PM | GWG_ | On Sunday, I had 0.48 pounds of Hiddenfjord salmon
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07:20:04 PM | GWG_ | Last time, it was 0.52 pounds of Canadian salmon
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07:20:04 PM | agamotto | GWG_: I know - most don't. One of the many reasons I left Lowe's.
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07:20:19 PM | GWG_ | Every time I go to the store, they have a different nationality
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07:20:25 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: Where are you now?
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07:20:59 PM | poopy_pants | His vmlinuz file has a 'windows' logo on it.
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07:21:09 PM | agamotto | GWG_: Home Depot. There was some pressure for me to 'conform' to the store standard... I just reminded them that if I hear of it again, said managers will be losing their jobs over it.
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07:21:33 PM | poopy_pants | Ah ... mine does too ... using PointLinux these days.
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07:21:53 PM | agamotto | 1.8Gb... barely swap for many systems these days
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07:22:01 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, just do rm -rf / to clean up some space
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07:22:08 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - when you install new packages, most time they go into the home folder right
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07:22:17 PM | GWG_ | agamotto: The place has improved since Bob Nardello left
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07:22:44 PM | poopy_pants | Wow that's a 2T hard drive
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07:23:08 PM | agamotto | GWG_: He was part of why I left back in 2007
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07:23:36 PM | GWG_ | Still harder than I'd like to find an associate sometimes.
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07:23:38 PM | poopy_pants | What ... no label?
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07:23:40 PM | GWG_ | But it is getting better
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07:24:07 PM | poopy_pants | Don't need it I guess ... use blkid
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07:24:36 PM | agamotto | GWG_: Sadly, all due to payroll leveraging... of course, if they would just have 2 people in each department every hour the store is open, many problems would simply go away. Oh, and sales might go up as well!
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07:24:37 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, if you really wanted, you could read that drive in windows too, but it isn't so easy to make windows understand extfs-file-system, so best left alone :)
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07:25:03 PM | SashaD | thanks jot : )
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07:25:14 PM | tic-toc | It is national pancake day here in the states
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07:25:17 PM | calhydro | Robbie: Regarding EOL for Windows Xp, could you not run it in Linux in a virtual environment? Can you clone a OS running on vitural machine, so it can be restored quickly rather than re-installing it?
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07:25:40 PM | Garbee | calhydro: That is possible.
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07:25:57 PM | keckeckec | calhydro: YOu can make snapshots of it from the host machine
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07:25:59 PM | Garbee | Virtualbox has something called "Appliances". So you install, update, then make one.
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07:26:01 PM | invinciblemutant | hi, why not just mount and point the home to the ext drive with usermod?
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07:26:12 PM | Garbee | That way you can easily restore it from that point in time on any system.
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07:26:18 PM | agamotto | I just find it sad/hilarious that the financial industry has know about the issue for at least two years now, but has done nearly nothing to move away from XP.
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07:26:35 PM | poopy_pants | invinciblemutant: that's what I was thinking.
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07:26:38 PM | _Jot_ | calhydro, the problem is that windows won't become any safer running it in a VM, especially if it has access to other computers in your network, and websites or programs detecting XP won't run anymore
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07:27:02 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant: You want to make the change in /etc/fstab. That way it is for all users present and future.
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07:27:19 PM | keckeckec | I'd like to create a firewall in the LInux host to limit XP to only some few web sites
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07:27:32 PM | Garbee | keckeckec: Good luck. ;)
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07:27:34 PM | invinciblemutant | I think we can do it the current OS mode
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07:27:48 PM | keckeckec | I think iptables should do that
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07:28:18 PM | invinciblemutant | just update the fstab, reboot
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07:28:30 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant: But then you aren't *moving* the data over.
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07:28:41 PM | Garbee | From a live disk, you can do the move and fstab change all in one go.
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07:28:42 PM | poopy_pants | Oh durn ... lag
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07:28:46 PM | invinciblemutant | use root
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07:28:57 PM | invinciblemutant | logoff to root
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07:28:57 PM | Garbee | invinciblemutant: Still won't work. Your user is running.
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07:29:06 PM | calhydro | Hmm So an attack in the virtual machine Windows Xp OS could effect or could not effect the Linux OS?
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07:29:29 PM | agamotto | It would affect any drive that the XP has access to
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07:29:48 PM | Garbee | You'd need to log out, switch to TTY terminal, login as root (which Ubuntu for instance obscures by automatically generating a root password), then stop the X interface, then do the move and fstab change, then restart all that. :/ Not very good for a one hour show to explain all that.
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07:29:53 PM | keckeckec | Give XP access to a separate partition as shared between the OSes
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07:30:01 PM | _Jot_ | it also depends if they have access to the network, because traditionally protection is much less in a local network, not as much firewalls etc
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07:30:27 PM | poopy_pants | knopix
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07:30:29 PM | TechZoneUK | Hi Everyone!
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07:30:35 PM | _Jot_ | hi TechZoneUK
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07:30:39 PM | keckeckec | Hi TechZoneUK
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07:30:51 PM | TechZoneUK | How you doing?
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07:31:04 PM | keckeckec | Great TechZoneUK. How are U?
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07:31:08 PM | _Jot_ | watching the show so doing great :)
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07:31:41 PM | calhydro | Well it looks like my old applications running on Windows Xp will just have to be orphaned. Thx
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07:31:55 PM | TechZoneUK | ahh good good! And yeah I'm not bad thanks guys
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07:33:40 PM | agamotto | Call me weird, but isn't this a good reason to use sensible volume names?
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07:33:43 PM | _Jot_ | calhydro, I'd make a VM out of it, and back that up for safekeeping, just in case, and then look for something else
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07:33:51 PM | invinciblemutant | cp -R is safer right, RobbieF
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07:34:02 PM | Garbee | agamotto: I don't think Robbie is covering naming the drives tonight.
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07:34:10 PM | Garbee | But yes, that is one good fix for it.
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07:34:19 PM | agamotto | Ah, ok... seems it would save confusion between volumes
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07:34:28 PM | _Jot_ | all those weird media names are made up by the OS, if you mount things normally you wouldn't do it like this
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07:34:32 PM | invinciblemutant | RobbieF: just in case there are some high privilege files and folders that your current user fails to read
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07:34:46 PM | Garbee | agamotto: He is trying to make people not be so scared of all this stuff. That means letting them see GGUIDs.
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07:34:56 PM | agamotto | Agreed
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07:34:57 PM | poopy_pants | redhat suggests that we start using blkid or UUID names in /etc/fstab to mount devices.
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07:35:12 PM | Garbee | poopy_pants: UUID has always been recommended.
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07:35:19 PM | poopy_pants | Cool
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07:35:42 PM | Garbee | Because the device assignment on the chain can be changed, which would break fstab. UUID won't change no matter where it is on the chain of devices.
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07:35:52 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD< you could also watch this amazing tech show called Category5.tv, it has a lot of stuff like this and explains it pretty well :)
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07:35:53 PM | agamotto | SashaD: It takes time to sink in
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07:36:04 PM | invinciblemutant | SashaD: that is the point, if you are getting it as a cohost, the episode is good
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07:36:04 PM | poopy_pants | Yeah ... I've had that happen to me several times at work ... using UUID fixed those issues.
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07:36:05 PM | invinciblemutant | lol
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07:36:08 PM | tic-toc | using the terminal scares most people
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07:36:28 PM | poopy_pants | The show is really laggy here ... durn
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07:36:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | dev/sd?? changes
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07:36:51 PM | agamotto | I was thinking more along the lines of 'main drive','second drive.'
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07:36:52 PM | poopy_pants | yes
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07:36:55 PM | Garbee | Dennis_Kelley: It can.
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07:37:01 PM | Garbee | Plus in a new drive and switch stuff around.
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07:37:08 PM | invinciblemutant | Dennis_Kelley: yes, they changes, RobbieF is right
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07:37:23 PM | Garbee | Plus/Put
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07:37:25 PM | poopy_pants | yes ... it's /dev/sd? has changed on me after reboot ... that's why uuid works better
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07:37:37 PM | Garbee | poopy_pants: Not just a reboot.
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07:37:47 PM | Garbee | You actually need to move the device assignment in your chain internally.
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07:37:54 PM | Garbee | i.e. Moving your HDD from SATA1 to SATA3.
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07:38:02 PM | _Jot_ | if you'd really went and did this the manual way, you'd also make mountpoints and could name those sensibly, and then it wouldn't be such a big issue also
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07:38:04 PM | Garbee | That will change the /dev/sd* assignment.
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07:38:19 PM | poopy_pants | Hmmmm ... I know I didn't physically change anything.
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07:38:30 PM | Garbee | poopy_pants: Then maybe you did some BIOS reconfiguring.
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07:38:41 PM | Garbee | But only one of those two should change /dev/ assignments.
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07:38:51 PM | _Jot_ | sure RobbieF, blame the computer, for everything you do wrong :)
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07:39:00 PM | Garbee | /dev is based on where it is physically on the board.
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07:39:12 PM | poopy_pants | Well ... UUID is what I use now :-)
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07:39:52 PM | Garbee | sda = SATA 1, sdb = SATA 2, sdc = SATA 3 (if hard drive), PATA goes to something not sd* iirc. cdrom's are cdrom{X} where {X} is a number from 0 to whatever based on how many you have.
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07:40:11 PM | _Jot_ | normally dev-assignments don't change much, but they could change by something as simple as one drive simply spinning up a milisecond faster than another
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07:40:30 PM | Garbee | _Jot_: Nah, that shouldn't affect it.
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07:40:42 PM | Garbee | It is placement on device chain to the mobo, not whether one comes up faster than the other.
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07:40:42 PM | _Jot_ | it shouldn't, but it does :)
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07:40:52 PM | Garbee | Because the BIOS hands that info off to the OS.
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07:40:59 PM | poopy_pants | Garbee: I think _Jot_ is on to something ... I feel like it's happened to me
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07:41:01 PM | Garbee | _Jot_: Maybe on really old systems. Nothing modern.
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07:41:15 PM | _Jot_ | it's one of the reasons why unraid switched from dev-assignments to serial-numbers of drives to identify them
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07:41:27 PM | agamotto | Back in the days of IDE cables, perhaps
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07:42:04 PM | poopy_pants | Well ... with UUID I suspect that we can all live happily ever after ;-)
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07:42:15 PM | invinciblemutant | what is the first number
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07:42:18 PM | _Jot_ | normally drives don't suddenly change their spinning either, but if a lot of drives spin up at the same time, suddenly dev-assignments can be pretty random
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07:42:43 PM | Garbee | Not even just IDE cables should cause it. The BIOS requests info from the drives to see what is where, IDE's were master/slave blocked on the chain. So it would have each spin up to get info before handing off to the OS.
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07:43:01 PM | poopy_pants | Listening!
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07:43:21 PM | agamotto | Because if you don't, your Files will get STABbed!
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07:43:41 PM | poopy_pants | Ah ... lag is causing the video to replay over here.
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07:43:44 PM | TechZoneUK | I recently had my 3TB HDD fail on me. Had my whole media collection on... it was less than a year old when it failed!
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07:44:00 PM | Garbee | TechZoneUK: Yea, the bigger the density the more prone to failure.
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07:44:14 PM | Garbee | -R
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07:44:22 PM | _Jot_ | oh darn, RobbieF is gone, now I guess we should listen to SashaD present things now
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07:44:26 PM | agamotto | I barely fill 200Gb
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07:44:47 PM | IMTech5 | _Jot_: LOL!!!
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07:44:54 PM | poopy_pants | I farted ... thought that you should all be aware of that.
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07:44:59 PM | poopy_pants | :-)
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07:45:04 PM | TechZoneUK | Yeah Garbee I learnt that the hard way... No way am I ever buying larger drives now!
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07:45:24 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you tell the OS you moved the home folder yet so it uses it on the other drive?
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07:45:35 PM | Garbee | TechZoneUK: If you are doing RAID stuff, they can be useful if you get the right types. But for a one-drive setup, no, don't get 2TB+
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07:45:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | what was that sudo mv * again?
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07:45:45 PM | poopy_pants | I saw him edit the /etc/fstab twice ... stupid lag
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07:45:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | command
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07:45:49 PM | Garbee | Honestly, I'll never use over a 500GB.
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07:45:49 PM | Guest96540 | I had lag/dropouts too. Tried VLC it was the same. The mobile site seems to be better.
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07:45:50 PM | Garbee | :/
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07:45:58 PM | Garbee | Just no need for all that storage space on one drive.
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07:46:22 PM | agamotto | Garbee: Video editors, perhaps
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07:46:27 PM | Garbee | Dennis_Kelley: `sudo mv * ../{drive path}`
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07:46:28 PM | Garbee | iirc
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07:46:35 PM | TechZoneUK | Yeah Garbee, If I wereo setup a NAS I would always use the 2TB NAS 24/7 drives, they seem pretty reliable
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07:46:40 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbbieF - what was the command - sudo mv ???
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07:46:43 PM | Garbee | agamotto: Video editors or rippers, photographers, etc.
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07:46:47 PM | Garbee | Plenty of reasons to have that much space.
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07:46:50 PM | Garbee | Just nothing I do.
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07:46:54 PM | Guest96540 | sudo mv * ..
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07:46:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | thanks Garbee
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07:47:02 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you should use your radio voice for the intense stuff
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07:47:11 PM | tic-toc | uh oh
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07:47:30 PM | tic-toc | thats a ssd ?
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07:47:33 PM | BobK54 | drawbot music!!
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07:47:35 PM | TechZoneUK | Whats everyones current OS? Any other linux'ers? aha
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07:47:43 PM | BobK54 | PCLinuxOS
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07:47:44 PM | Garbee | ElementaryOS
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07:47:49 PM | poopy_pants | PointLinux
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07:47:53 PM | sanseriff | Fedora 20
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07:47:57 PM | agamotto | Mint 15 here
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07:48:03 PM | TechZoneUK | Oh wow! I'm Ubuntu myself
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07:48:11 PM | _Jot_ | I'm using windows 7 on this computer, ubuntu on another, and unraid which is slackware at its basis on my server
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07:48:29 PM | tic-toc | geek touchdown
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07:48:29 PM | poopy_pants | Sounds for your stylish dangerous life
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07:48:42 PM | TechZoneUK | I installed Manjaro & loved it! But had way to many issues with getting my hardware to work.
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07:49:00 PM | poopy_pants | chills
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07:49:09 PM | Garbee | TechZoneUK: Give ElementaryOS a try. It is based on Ubuntu LTS and has a very nice DE (custom built thing.)
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07:49:17 PM | agamotto | Hmmm, what was the cracker software on the C64 that played 'Yo ho ho" while taking out DRM?
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07:49:39 PM | tic-toc | holy cow - theres a worm in that apple
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07:50:01 PM | poopy_pants | What's worse than finding a worm in an apple?
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07:50:07 PM | TechZoneUK | @Garbee: I've used it. I think its a really nice OS! Its very fast but I'm not a huge fan of the Launcher in the top right
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07:50:12 PM | agamotto | I have yet to find a compelling reason to own a tablet
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07:50:36 PM | Garbee | TechZoneUK: Ah. Yea, I set most of my stuff up on the dock that I need regularly. Then hide all the UI stuff. :D
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07:50:44 PM | _Jot_ | probably something called kracker jax, or something like that
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07:50:46 PM | Garbee | I really only ever have Chrome and a terminal open for vim.
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07:50:46 PM | poopy_pants | agamotto: I really like mine! Motorola Xoom with Android
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07:51:10 PM | mindlord | I suggest install that Scratch derivative on there for the kids so they can learn basic programming.
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07:51:18 PM | agamotto | poopy_pants: What about the security holes, and need for anti-virus and such?
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07:51:18 PM | BobK54 | my wifes Xoom has been running strong for about 2 years now
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07:51:30 PM | TechZoneUK | @Garbee: its a shame, the overall OS is awesome! But, Ubuntu seems to be doing me well atm...
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07:51:37 PM | robgor | I have a galaxy note 10.1 tablet :)
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07:51:51 PM | poopy_pants | agamotto: I have nothing ... I don't worry about it.
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07:51:59 PM | mindlord | I have an Asus Transformer TF300T wish I'm ashamed to say is very expensive. It's a great piece of hardware, but Android on a tablet still feels empty to me.
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07:52:54 PM | Garbee | SashaD: Chinese isn't letters. It is a symbolic language afaik. Which is why it is so hard to learn to us. Could be wrong though, I'm no language expert.
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07:53:01 PM | poopy_pants | Same with my chromebook ... I don't worry about it :-)
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07:53:35 PM | agamotto | Garbee: Pictograms based on sound/syllables
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07:53:40 PM | TechZoneUK | Is @popey Alan?
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07:53:43 PM | invinciblemutant | every letter is a word with strokes
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07:54:16 PM | mindlord | "Pocket Code" is the scratch-a-like for Android.
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07:54:23 PM | _Jot_ | the alphabet in my country also has more than 26 letters, and there are others. But its difficult to determine if it is still like that or not
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07:54:46 PM | agamotto | _Jot_: Around 44 still?
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07:55:43 PM | _Jot_ | not sure, but one letter is 'ij' which is basically the same as y, and can be used interchangibly sometimes, so I'm not sure if it really counts or not, but it was at a time at least
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07:56:52 PM | agamotto | How about military members who are being spied on while trying to have 'some' kind of intimacy with their spouses back home?
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07:57:53 PM | kyoshininja | gitmo invitation for them
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07:57:58 PM | _Jot_ | everybody is spied on, why should they be excluded :)
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07:58:01 PM | tic-toc | probably all of them
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07:58:14 PM | RavenLords | hello everyone
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07:58:28 PM | RavenLords | what did i miss
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07:58:28 PM | agamotto | Stallone... ahahahahahahah
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07:58:34 PM | kyoshininja | Hi RavenLords
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07:58:43 PM | _Jot_ | lots of stuff RavenLords, almost a whole episode :)
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07:58:48 PM | poopy_pants | RavenLords gloves from world of warcraft is here!
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07:59:02 PM | RavenLords | lol
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07:59:31 PM | poopy_pants | +650 critical strike!
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07:59:54 PM | _Jot_ | Don't forget to go to http://store.category5.tv and buy lots of stuff! and go to http://cat5.tv/studio and donate, and http://cat5.tv/c as well
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08:00:13 PM | IMTech5 | Thanks @RobbieF and @SashaD! Enjoyed the show!
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08:00:14 PM | mindlord | G'night guys
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08:00:26 PM | BobK54 | night all !!
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08:00:30 PM | maggie | gnight everyone
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08:00:41 PM | acessweb | until all the more
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08:00:45 PM | IMTech5 | Nite, nite!!!
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08:00:46 PM | kyoshininja | Huntington Beach!
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08:00:52 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD is always nice too though
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08:00:57 PM | poopy_pants | Say ... you skipped right over me in Fort Worth
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08:00:59 PM | BobK54 | good show, I'll have to review it later, too many freezes for continuity tonight. love the internets....
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08:01:00 PM | maggie | northern ireland uk
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08:01:35 PM | _Jot_ | it's all that geek-talk that made people pass out and made it go extra fast RobbieF :)
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08:01:42 PM | poopy_pants | BobK54 ... I was thinking the same ... that's cool through I'll need something to list to tomorrow night.
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08:02:18 PM | robgor | great show once again guys
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08:02:40 PM | agamotto | hahahahah
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08:03:13 PM | _Jot_ | oh no! my radio cut out just before RobbieF said... .well.. I won't repeat it cause it's a secret
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08:03:41 PM | kyoshininja | gotta go...have a great night all....
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08:04:00 PM | _Jot_ | geez! just after I send a rocket after mister pants he changes his name, now the rocket won't be able to find where to crash and explode
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08:04:14 PM | talky_toaster | BOOM!
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08:05:01 PM | talky_toaster | talky_toaster walks across the channel and sits on the sofa.
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08:05:21 PM | talky_toaster | Anyone for toast?
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08:05:53 PM | _Jot_ | No. No toast. Not burned toast, not hot toast, not cold toast, not toast. Nobody wants toast. Nobody ever wants toast.
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08:06:05 PM | talky_toaster | How about a crumpette?
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08:06:21 PM | _Jot_ | No toast, no crumpets, no bagels, no bread-products of any kind!
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08:06:30 PM | SashaD | I feel like Ive missed out on all the best food talk in the chat room.... darn show distracting me lol
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08:06:41 PM | talky_toaster | OK ... I just have one question then.
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08:06:46 PM | talky_toaster | Would you like a bagal
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08:06:47 PM | GWG_ | Hi, SashaD
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08:06:52 PM | GWG_ | Did I miss Bagel Talk?
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08:06:56 PM | SashaD | Hi GWG
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08:07:11 PM | _Jot_ | Now that is exactly why the toaster was broken, and in the trash
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08:07:15 PM | agamotto | Well, I am off to make something for dinner... I might just do some soup
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08:08:04 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, you can always go back and read the chatlogs, they are with the shownotes of every episode. Well, recent ones, old ones didn't have them stored
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08:08:15 PM | SashaD | Soup is yummy... soup and bagels :)
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08:08:15 PM | agamotto | .... spmething about Robin of Loxley, in the land of Bag-El....
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08:08:53 PM | RobbieF | Hiya all!
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08:08:59 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF
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08:09:01 PM | agamotto | Chat with you all later!
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08:09:07 PM | _Jot_ | you too agamotto
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08:09:16 PM | GWG_ | I'm a Jewish New Yorker. I know my bagels
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08:09:17 PM | talky_toaster | What's the point of buying a toaster with artificial intelligence if you don't like toast?
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08:09:28 PM | SashaD | I wish I could just take you all with me as an ongoing commentary day to day
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08:09:33 PM | _Jot_ | I heated up some baked potato-meal during the show, cause I was so hungry
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08:09:38 PM | SashaD | best randomness ever
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08:09:42 PM | RobbieF | I'll tell you what, talky_toaster... awesomeness.
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08:09:45 PM | RobbieF | And pop tarts
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08:09:57 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, get a smart-phone, and you can stayed logged in the chatroom every day and all day :)
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08:10:29 PM | GWG_ | _Jot_: It kills your battery though
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08:10:36 PM | _Jot_ | or get me one of those phone-devices with a barrie-phonenumber and you could call all day for free and not stop talking :)
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08:10:39 PM | talky_toaster | This is going to be about waffles, isn't it?
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08:11:15 PM | talky_toaster | The question is this: Given that God is infinite, and that the universe is also infinite... would you like a toasted teacake?
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08:11:28 PM | _Jot_ | somebody get a hammer
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08:12:51 PM | talky_toaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec
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08:13:06 PM | talky_toaster | Early morning toast and light conversation.
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08:13:08 PM | RobbieF | Mmm, waffles
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08:13:09 PM | SashaD | they frown upon talking on cell phones while working, or I'd be all in :)
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08:13:10 PM | GWG_ | _Jot_: Look at CallCentric
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08:13:15 PM | RobbieF | with pure canadian maple syrup
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08:13:15 PM | GWG_ | YOu can get a Barrie number
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08:16:54 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, geez, next they'll want you to be productive while working I bet
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08:18:57 PM | SashaD | I know, eh!
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08:19:10 PM | talky_toaster | Right ... time to see what's new on sourcefed .... c'ya!
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08:24:00 PM | GWG_ | RobbieF: How does that compare to Vermont?
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08:24:14 PM | RobbieF | how does what?
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08:27:03 PM | GWG_ | Canadian Maple Syrup
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08:27:42 PM | RobbieF | Oh I don't know
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08:28:09 PM | _Jot_ | I bet the secret stuff involved maple syrup
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08:29:47 PM | GWG_ | I forget whichis in my fridge
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08:30:22 PM | Dennis_Kelley | So _Jot_ how does one get as many points that you have?
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08:30:41 PM | _Jot_ | Use a time-machine and sign up very early?
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08:30:49 PM | _Jot_ | and then log in every day?
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08:31:15 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I only have 4000 points away from you
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08:31:23 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *am
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08:32:59 PM | _Jot_ | I guess since I can't do anything with points, you got just as much use out of them as me :)
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08:33:18 PM | Dennis_Kelley | for sure. bragging right
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08:33:18 PM | robgor | ok guys Iam off for a walk on my treadmill, havnt done enough steps today or so my fitbit tells me :(
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08:33:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | s.
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08:33:43 PM | _Jot_ | have fun robgor, seems something to do while watching the show :)
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08:34:06 PM | _Jot_ | being 3rd is nice, but I'd be bragging more if i was nr 1 :)
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08:35:20 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i was surprised with my 18 place
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08:36:09 PM | _Jot_ | sometimes it goes fast, indeed :)
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08:36:31 PM | _Jot_ | I think nobody is more important than others really, but you do recognize everybody the same
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08:39:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | we are a community of one? is that what you are saying?
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08:39:19 PM | RobbieF | Sorry - sasha and I just chatting :)
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08:39:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | No worries!
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08:39:31 PM | _Jot_ | well, we're all here because of RobbieF
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08:39:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | True say!
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08:39:41 PM | _Jot_ | so blame him :)
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08:39:53 PM | SashaD | Haha I blame him!
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08:40:20 PM | _Jot_ | without him I'd never have known I have to name our child Sudo
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08:41:30 PM | SashaD | lol.... I think it's a great name! I am heading out now for the night, g'night all!
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08:41:53 PM | _Jot_ | have a good week SashaD and don't forget to come here sometime (let her know RobbieF)
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08:42:04 PM | _Jot_ | I mean chatroom is open during the week too
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08:44:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Ok everyone! I am off also! Have a great week!
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08:44:45 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice week Dennis_Kelley
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08:52:22 PM | RobbieF | will do _Jot_
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08:52:34 PM | _Jot_ | yay :)
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09:00:31 PM | _Jot_ | heh, suddenly I see SashaD saying 'sudo make me a sandwhich' and it isn't the joke :)
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09:02:00 PM | _Jot_ | so I'd say you can learn the strangest things on category5 :)
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09:07:37 PM | RobbieF | haha
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09:07:39 PM | RobbieF | awesome
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09:13:56 PM | RobbieF | Well, that was fun (for us), and hopefully fun for you too! I'm off for the night while the files work their way up to the server. Have a marvellous night!
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09:14:33 PM | RobbieF | PS - way to go _Jot_ - after just one day being back in the chat you're already at #8 position in the top 25 chatters!
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09:14:46 PM | RobbieF | and the quote of the day is "well, we're all here because of RobbieF"
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09:15:05 PM | RobbieF | oh my mistake - you're # 6!!
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09:16:02 PM | RobbieF | LOL:
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09:16:02 PM | RobbieF | It seems that tic-toc's shift-key is stuck! 6.7% of the time he/she wrote in UPPERCASE.
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09:16:02 PM | RobbieF | Here's an example:
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09:16:02 PM | RobbieF | SHARK :O
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09:16:48 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, I'm keeping my eye on the stats :) check the URLs as well :)
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09:17:33 PM | RobbieF | and as always, thank you for posting links to the things we're discussing. it really helps out in the chat and makes it more enjoyable for the viewers
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09:17:52 PM | _Jot_ | I wish it helped with people clicking too :)
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09:18:20 PM | RobbieF | I think it helps a lot
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09:18:45 PM | _Jot_ | soon I'll have my own links, and then I'll have commission and what not :)
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09:18:55 PM | RobbieF | it's also cool to see that the dayparting is starting to happen
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09:19:09 PM | RobbieF | meaning, it's not "always" just Tuesday nights
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09:19:26 PM | RobbieF | well, time for me to run... just was curious as to the status of the stats and how a second week's show affected it
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09:19:30 PM | RobbieF | have a great night!!!
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09:19:34 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice evening :)
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09:19:47 PM | RobbieF | I'll be online in 9 hours
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09:19:53 PM | RobbieF | seeya
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09:21:14 PM | GWG_ | I installed Red Shift on my computer
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09:21:16 PM | GWG_ | Interesting
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09:24:05 PM | _Jot_ | astronomy software?
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