Chat Logs for Episode 343 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 95 Posts:Tennessee_Frank
With 92 Posts:_Jot_
With 79 Posts:RobbieF
With 77 Posts:Dave-Maydew
With 43 Posts:agamotto


Chat Logs:

06:58:24 PMrobgor RobbieF dont listen to Jot I think your bald head looks good. That coming from another bald guy lol
06:58:44 PM_Jot_ I think I might be getting bald too, at least I've noticed my hair getting thinner
06:59:05 PMajamison5579 Baldness is a sign that your brain is to large to be confined by a full head of hair
06:59:13 PMajamison5579 or so i keep telling myself lol
06:59:15 PMvoodoosandman Better to be bald all the time than not bald at all,
06:59:30 PM_Jot_ bald people grow hair on the inside, no room for brains
06:59:37 PMkyoshininja HI all
06:59:41 PMRobbieF \o
06:59:43 PMRobbieF hve fun folks!
06:59:44 PM_Jot_ hi kyoshininja
06:59:55 PM_Jot_ don't forget to smile :)
07:00:01 PMTennessee_Frank :-D
07:00:06 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed :-D
07:00:26 PMTennessee_Frank LOL, Howdy RobbieF
07:00:52 PMTennessee_Frank Tax Day
07:00:54 PMDennis_Kelley Hello All!
07:01:07 PM_Jot_ hi Dennis_Kelley
07:01:12 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed Hi
07:01:31 PMagamotto Hallo all
07:01:38 PM_Jot_ hi agamotto
07:01:45 PMDave-Maydew Ah just in time
07:01:50 PMDave-Maydew Ah just in time
07:01:56 PMDave-Maydew :D
07:01:59 PM_Jot_ hey Dave_Maydew, you made it :)
07:02:03 PMajamison5579 Can you guys give away a free Tesla Model S Robbief ? That would be fantastic lol
07:02:05 PMTennessee_Frank Google=SkyNet
07:02:11 PMDave-Maydew Hey _Jot_
07:02:15 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, sure, buy one to give away and he will :)
07:02:26 PMagamotto So nice to have the day off
07:02:53 PMDave-Maydew Hey agamotto
07:02:53 PMajamison5579 _jot_ if I could afford one i would not need him to give one away lol
07:03:00 PMDave-Maydew it's been a while
07:03:09 PMnapa_polarbear hello all
07:03:15 PM_Jot_ hi napa_polarbear
07:03:32 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew, I have been working a lot of mids. I will be at work for next week's episode :(
07:03:37 PM_Jot_ ajamison5579, if you can't afford to buy one, you probably can't afford to maintain it either after you have one, so maybe its better you don't have one :)
07:03:37 PMkyoshininja Hi napa_polarbear
07:04:04 PM_Jot_ The link that RobbieF is talking about http://shop.category5.tv for t-shirts, roku, and all kinds of stuff!
07:04:09 PMDave-Maydew Oh boy agamotto! I've missed a couple too
07:04:17 PMDave-Maydew Glad to be here tonight though
07:04:20 PM_Jot_ if you just want to donate some money, you can do that through the store, or go to http://cat5.tv/c
07:04:21 PMTennessee_Frank LOL, YouTube has some lag between video and audio.
07:04:33 PMSpareParts Thats Me!!
07:04:36 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew, How are things at your end?
07:04:37 PMTennessee_Frank Ok, now it looks better
07:04:41 PMDave-Maydew Welcome to the new new viewers and the Noobs to Linux
07:04:48 PMDave-Maydew all Distro's of Linux that is
07:04:49 PMSpareParts yep thank your roku
07:04:52 PMTennessee_Frank Roku is awesome
07:05:05 PMagamotto I can't image trying to do the chat with a Roku...
07:05:14 PMkyoshininja Roku had a slight sync between video and audio delay, but it only lasted a minute...fine now.
07:05:17 PM_Jot_ If you want a roku, go to http://cat5.tv/roku and if you have one, and want to add category5, go to http://cat5.tv/rokuchannel
07:05:48 PMrobgor talking about t-shirts when are the ones that have been sold atm beeing shipped or do a certain amount need to be sold before they are produced and shipped?
07:06:18 PM_Jot_ yes, they go by a dozen, to set up for printing etc, otherwise it is too expensive
07:06:24 PMTennessee_Frank Debian has a patch for 1.0.1e
07:06:39 PMTennessee_Frank 1.0.1e-2_deb 1u6
07:06:41 PM_Jot_ more than a dozen is fine too of course, but less than a dozen is no good yet :) but they'll come
07:06:44 PMTennessee_Frank 7u6
07:06:58 PMTennessee_Frank Of course Debian Testing is 1.0.1g so it's good
07:07:21 PMrobgor ok as I placed an order for mine a while ago
07:07:28 PM_Jot_ For information about heartbleed, see http://cat5.tv/heartbleed
07:07:59 PMTennessee_Frank Caught that on my Google+ page.
07:08:44 PM_Jot_ robgor, I always hope lots of people buy some more :) otherwise eventually I'm going to have to pay for a dozen, just so I know they can be made for sure :)
07:08:50 PMagamotto So, how long should I wait to change my passwords? What 'version' will be considered safe?
07:09:12 PMTennessee_Frank agamotto, depends on weather or not the web site has a patch in place.
07:09:15 PM_Jot_ wait untill the serviceprovider tells you they upgraded their openssl version, or are not vulnerable to it
07:09:24 PMTennessee_Frank This thing has been going on for two years.
07:09:34 PMDave-Maydew Who thought of the name of this bug?
07:09:38 PMagamotto I see, so it is more of a problem on 'their' end than mine...
07:09:52 PMTennessee_Frank It comes from the Heartbeat that OpenSSL was using to stay connected
07:09:59 PM_Jot_ the link at http://cat5.tv/heartbleed shows many sites that are vulnerable, or not anymore
07:09:59 PMagamotto _Jot_, Hmmm, interesting
07:10:08 PMTennessee_Frank The Heartbeat "leaked" so they called it Heartbleed.
07:10:10 PMtic-toc_ This is why I never put or use anything important on the web. Consumption only....
07:10:25 PMTennessee_Frank We actually got a dusting of snow here in Crossville, TN today as well.
07:10:37 PMrobgor agamotto you can get extensions for chrome and firefox etc that check the sites you visit
07:10:44 PMagamotto Our snow was melting as it came down on Monday
07:10:52 PMDave-Maydew Ah RobbieF that's what happens here in the UK... 3 flakes of snow and things come to a standstill
07:11:05 PMagamotto robgor, Hmmm, even better
07:11:48 PMrobgor also might be an idea to contact your isp to see if your modem/router is afftected as its more than the websites that can be affected internet connected devices can be a problem also
07:12:08 PMagamotto robgor, really?
07:12:27 PMagamotto I am so glad I don't do online banking
07:12:35 PMrobgor yep was reading about that last night
07:13:02 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed 29.01 28.18 14.09 :-D
07:13:11 PMTennessee_Frank She Got it yah
07:13:41 PMDennis_Kelley I am sure i did edit the right fstab
07:13:52 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF can you drag and drop
07:13:56 PMagamotto Is there a left one?
07:14:10 PMDave-Maydew I've done that with Android Devices too
07:14:26 PMrobgor maybe a error in the fstab command you added denis kelly
07:15:06 PMagamotto I use TeamViewer to keep my grandma's system current
07:15:14 PMnapa_polarbear freefillsync worrks good
07:15:15 PMTennessee_Frank Ahh, ok, we're doing this in Terminal. Got it.
07:15:18 PMvoodoosandman Won't "captcha" lead to "SkyNet"
07:15:26 PMTennessee_Frank Yep, have to do that Ctrl H
07:15:55 PMtic-toc_ gksu nautilus won't work ?
07:16:17 PMrobgor also doing a backup denis kelly would have been a good idea before doing changes to fstab etc
07:16:18 PMTennessee_Frank Command Line is something I still need to learn more about.
07:16:35 PMDave-Maydew My Wordpress site is updated!! Phew
07:16:38 PM_Jot_ knowing the commandline is always useful
07:17:22 PMnapa_polarbear like useing dos
07:17:39 PMTennessee_Frank I can do a lot of "apt-get" stuff and stuff like dpkg --configure -a but that's about as far as I get, LOL
07:18:05 PMDennis_Kelley Yes!
07:18:12 PMTennessee_Frank Worse comes to Worse just reinstall Point Linux
07:18:26 PMTennessee_Frank I've borked a system a few times and had to reinstall
07:18:30 PMDave-Maydew Ubuntu 14.04LTS comes out Thursday
07:18:47 PM_Jot_ just make sure you have plenty of backups
07:19:05 PMagamotto Yes, new distros to try right before my birthday
07:19:23 PMTennessee_Frank I keep all my "stuff" on an external hard drive. Only have the basic stuff installed on the the actual laptops
07:19:29 PMrats_ Dave-Maydew: will that be the distro release
07:19:31 PMDennis_Kelley I think that i ran out of space on my HD, so i added a replacement and moved my home folder. then I had issues, probably like robgor and RobbieF suggested
07:19:51 PM_Jot_ jots find you? oh wait, bots
07:20:03 PMDave-Maydew I'll be installing 14.04LTS on both my Desktop and main laptop, but will be using Lubuntu 14.04 onto my Ham Radio Laptop
07:20:05 PM_Jot_ jot is not a bot, but a jot
07:20:22 PMTennessee_Frank LOL, Jot bot,
07:20:24 PMDave-Maydew lol Jot Bot
07:20:47 PM_Jot_ beep!
07:20:55 PMagamotto It will be interesting to see what changes come into Mythbuntu... tuner support right now is... wanting
07:20:56 PMTennessee_Frank I got the jot bot I bought.
07:20:57 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
07:21:03 PMTennessee_Frank I thought
07:21:10 PMgpop7 hello everyone
07:21:15 PM_Jot_ hi gpop7
07:21:20 PMDave-Maydew Hey gpop7
07:21:25 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy
07:21:33 PMkyoshininja Hey gpop7
07:21:51 PMagamotto shpoopie shpoopie
07:21:56 PMTennessee_Frank Heartbleed mostly effects the servers, not the clients
07:21:59 PMgpop7 howdy hi hey hey
07:22:17 PMDave-Maydew Can't believe I'm having to taint my hands with Windows 7 on my Sisters laptop
07:22:28 PMTennessee_Frank I patched OpenSSL on my laptops the day that Debian came out with the patch.
07:22:32 PM_Jot_ windows 7 isn't entirely bad
07:22:38 PMTennessee_Frank But who knows when the servers will get around to it
07:22:57 PMTennessee_Frank The only problem with Windows 7 is that it's a MicroSoft produce, LOL
07:23:07 PMTennessee_Frank product
07:23:09 PMDave-Maydew _Jot_ she had XP and didn't realise that it had stopped support
07:23:20 PMDave-Maydew so, big brother came to the rescue
07:23:30 PMagamotto Dave-Maydew, No, true taint would be XP
07:23:48 PMTennessee_Frank I'm surprised that Windows 7 would run on an XP machine
07:24:03 PM_Jot_ weird, there have been messages about it, if she kept it up to date
07:24:10 PMDave-Maydew It's a 2.2ghz Celeron with 2Gb RAM
07:24:15 PMagamotto It tends to run better on most older laptops
07:24:18 PMDave-Maydew it'll run but yawn
07:24:36 PM_Jot_ even automatic updates installed the warn-user-about-no-support, and the anti-virus warns every time that it doesn't work anymore because the OS isn't supported
07:24:39 PMTennessee_Frank A good Debian install of one kind or another would run better then Windows 7 IMHO
07:24:51 PMTennessee_Frank Point Linux, SolydX
07:25:22 PMDave-Maydew the laptop has a GPU that won't work on Linux
07:25:30 PMDave-Maydew it has a SIS 641
07:25:35 PMagamotto Tennessee_Frank, agreed, but there are so many who 'have' to have Win for that one program that won't run under WINE or have a linux version
07:26:13 PMTennessee_Frank My Brother is like that, he has to run Windows because a program he needs wont' run well under WINE
07:26:22 PMrobgor lol robbief plugin star trek
07:27:08 PMTennessee_Frank .tar.gz
07:27:35 PMTennessee_Frank you have to extract it, total PITA,
07:27:48 PMTennessee_Frank Never had any luck with em'
07:27:52 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, the kodak site is http://support.en.kodak.com/app/answers/list/c/890/selected/true but I forgot the printer, so I can't find it fast :)
07:28:05 PMFlatslide Thank you Robbie
07:28:19 PMTennessee_Frank I've been fighting a friends HP printer with the Point Linux 2.3 install that I did for him.
07:28:32 PMTennessee_Frank Printers are tough sometimes
07:28:33 PMnapa_polarbear do ark work with gz
07:28:54 PMagamotto The only things keeping my mother from going 100% linux are Family Tree Maker, and PrintShopo
07:29:18 PMagamotto PrintShop that should be
07:29:47 PMTennessee_Frank CUPS won't work with a Kodak printer???
07:30:23 PMTennessee_Frank Dr.Bill is using E-Sword with WINE on a Linux install
07:30:57 PMnapa_polarbear dont forget play on linux
07:31:04 PMTennessee_Frank make it appear
07:31:11 PM_Jot_ CUSP seems to support the ESP 3.2
07:31:14 PMTennessee_Frank :-D
07:31:29 PM_Jot_ CUPS*
07:31:55 PM_Jot_ theres files for kodak at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/ but apparently it may not work entirely
07:32:13 PMDave-Maydew Don't forget about the paid version
07:32:18 PMDave-Maydew CrossOver
07:32:33 PM_Jot_ there are some instructions for the kodak at http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=157244&p=815712
07:33:18 PM_Jot_ http://www.codeweavers.com/ for crossover
07:33:21 PMGoodGuy CrossOver Linux now
07:33:39 PMtic-toc_ Does it do quick books?
07:33:41 PMGoodGuy _Jot_, posted it
07:33:50 PMTennessee_Frank Leaves me out. I'm so broke I can't even pay attention. LOL
07:33:56 PMDave-Maydew I've actually been useful for something!!
07:33:56 PMvoodoosandman Cups and swords, computing and Tarot theres a Link____________
07:34:05 PMagamotto Elder Scrolls Online?
07:34:08 PM_Jot_ you're always useful Dave-Maydew :)
07:34:20 PMkyoshininja tic-toc: have you ever tried gnucash?
07:34:29 PMTennessee_Frank LibreOffice
07:34:30 PM_Jot_ if nothing else, you can always buy stuff from http://shop.category5.tv or fork money over at http://cat5.tv/c
07:34:31 PMDave-Maydew Is Elder Scrolls not on STEAM??
07:34:35 PMGoodGuy How come I can't get the Youtube player to break out in a separate windows like I used to?
07:34:50 PMGoodGuy Cant watch while chatting
07:35:10 PM_Jot_ Elder scrolls? Only 3, 4 and 5, not the earlier versions, and also not the online variant
07:35:15 PMTennessee_Frank GoodGuy, I have two laptops going during the show, one for chat and one for live feed
07:35:28 PMagamotto GoodGuy, Hit watch live, then shrink the window
07:35:29 PMDave-Maydew 480p
07:35:33 PMDave-Maydew live
07:35:47 PMGuest_Guy just some feedback....lots of buffering on the Roku tonight
07:35:55 PMagamotto Ahh, so if I wanted to move Skyrim over, I could... hrm
07:36:05 PMkyoshininja my Roku is having frequent buffering/reloads. Short, but missing some content/discussions.
07:36:19 PMGoodGuy I have two screens, but rarely use the second one because moving my head hurts rather quickly
07:36:24 PMtic-toc_ Does gnucash accept quickbooks backup to transfer data?
07:36:33 PMDave-Maydew Been enjoying myself playing ShadowRun
07:36:35 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:37:20 PMGoodGuy I just did that agamotto but I used to be able to just show the player window w/o the tab etc
07:37:26 PMDave-Maydew NASA are launching numerous Ham Radio satellites on Friday
07:37:38 PMagamotto ahhh
07:37:40 PMkyoshininja tic-toc: I haven't used it most recently to import from quickbooks, but it always had *.qif file imports.
07:38:57 PMGoodGuy Her partner must have to buy the whole florist to even rate an attaboy lol
07:38:57 PMTennessee_Frank My old flip phone will charge in about an hour and will last for around 3 or 4 days because I don't use it that much.
07:39:11 PMTennessee_Frank It's a Pretty Possum
07:39:15 PMDave-Maydew Lithium may explode
07:39:44 PMTennessee_Frank If you feel depressed you can always chew on the battery to improve your mood.
07:39:55 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
07:40:05 PMagamotto Or destroy yur kidneys
07:40:11 PM_Jot_ chewing batteries always is pretty shocking to me
07:40:18 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:40:34 PMGoodGuy firmware updates hopefully
07:40:52 PMDave-Maydew Android 4.4.3 out soon too
07:40:54 PMagamotto In short, it will probably work only on Comcast for awhile
07:41:01 PMadamjensen it shocks me you people laugh at these jokes
07:41:13 PMTennessee_Frank Google fiber
07:41:22 PMvoodoosandman Blogging is like the old CB radio, Instead of Truck Driver nicknames like "Mudflap" They are just techier.
07:41:24 PM_Jot_ adamjensen, I guess we're easily charged
07:41:36 PMGoodGuy H265 codec for 4K
07:41:54 PMDave-Maydew voodoosandman and Facebook is like CB also
07:41:55 PM_Jot_ sounds like a chatroom, voodoosandman
07:42:02 PMDave-Maydew hence why I stay off it now
07:42:08 PMTennessee_Frank Can a person even really tell the difference
07:42:12 PMkyoshininja tic-toc: check out the website for gnucash where they have a link to documentation. Section 1.2.1 "Easy to Use" indicates that there is such functionality: http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide
07:42:13 PMagamotto Did someone say 'Parkay?'
07:42:14 PMadamjensen would you say your charged in 26 seconds
07:42:21 PMTennessee_Frank Butter
07:42:47 PM_Jot_ I am always charged up during the live show :) It's just very exciting
07:42:48 PMadamjensen margarine
07:42:51 PMDave-Maydew Is CAT5 streaming in 720p?
07:43:07 PMDennis_Kelley i used to live by that base
07:43:15 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, the show is recorded in 720p, I think streamed too, but not sure if youtube can keep up
07:43:46 PMDave-Maydew I'm only able to get 480p on YouTube at present
07:43:50 PM_Jot_ it is possible the livestreaming is only 480p and the 720p version later is uploaded
07:43:58 PMTennessee_Frank owned by someone
07:44:07 PMagamotto GI Joe w/Google Glass
07:44:21 PMtic-toc_ Thanks - but my worry is that when the data is transfered it won't be exactly right, similar to whenever you transfer MS office to Libre or open office.
07:44:56 PMagamotto Only 500m?
07:45:02 PMadamjensen omg its a glow in the dark dance party on a highway!
07:45:04 PM_Jot_ tic-toc_, that's why checksums can be helpful, generating them before and after and checking them to make sure they match, as a verification
07:45:27 PMGoodGuy Crossover Linux has a free trial iirc
07:45:34 PMTennessee_Frank Nope, you'd not see a person along the road without street lights
07:45:36 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, next time don't wear sunglasses at night
07:45:49 PMDave-Maydew coming home after a night on the beer
07:45:57 PMDave-Maydew and you see the street glowing
07:46:05 PMTennessee_Frank Need to paint the back of cars with that stuff
07:46:21 PMadamjensen i need to paint my house with that
07:46:24 PMBobK54 paint the pedestrians with that stuff!
07:46:31 PMvoodoosandman Ham is like CB but you can't hang a linear carrier signal. Without getting in trouble. A Ham Radio in Space?
07:46:32 PMTennessee_Frank That was a good song
07:46:33 PMkyoshininja tic-toc: I saw something about a commitment that gnucash has to supporting migration. However, I would think it's a process that starts with your assuring you have the same charts of accounts setup, etc.
07:46:45 PMFlatslide Glowing lines would be good in the rain
07:46:57 PMDave-Maydew Ham Radio in space is already there
07:47:00 PMagamotto I have to wear my amber lenses at night, or the headlights will do me in
07:47:04 PMDave-Maydew ISS, and satellites
07:47:06 PMDave-Maydew lovely
07:47:41 PMagamotto biodegradable?
07:47:45 PMDave-Maydew and we will soon have a geostationary satellite running 2.4GHz uplink and 10GHz downlink
07:47:53 PMvoodoosandman Eater egg Painted grenades Happy Easter to all the troops..
07:47:55 PMadamjensen paint squirrels with that paint youll never run another over
07:48:49 PMTennessee_Frank I dumped my Facebook account a couple weeks ago. Way too much drama.
07:48:59 PM_Jot_ heh, you can't drop a facebook account
07:49:12 PM_Jot_ you can stop using it, but they never stop tracking you, and never delete your account
07:49:16 PMTennessee_Frank Only have a Google+ account now. Much better, more Tech oriented.
07:49:18 PMDave-Maydew I live on Twitter
07:49:25 PMvoodoosandman I bet that wildlfe might not cross the road.
07:49:28 PMDave-Maydew and I use G+
07:49:55 PMagamotto i have G+, but I can't claim to understand it
07:49:59 PMTennessee_Frank _jot_ actually you CAN delete your account. Once you do it you can't log back into it for 2 weeks or it'll reactivate.
07:50:00 PMDave-Maydew paint a sheep with that paint
07:50:13 PMtic-toc_ Crossover doesn't support quickbooks
07:50:50 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, you can stop accessing it, but they don't actually delete it. If you read the license-agreement, it says they won't delete stuff, if you shared it with somebody. And, you shared your details with facebook, so they won't actually remove it
07:50:52 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, Two Hour show tonight???:-D
07:50:54 PMagamotto We have UPS, FedEx, and DHL....
07:52:11 PMDave-Maydew KF4CGI is Darrell
07:52:52 PMagamotto The US is infested!
07:53:01 PMdos89 What is the best solution for using macros in Linux?
07:53:08 PMDave-Maydew I'm not commenting on that agamotto
07:53:09 PMDave-Maydew lol
07:53:13 PMTennessee_Frank http://www.zdnet.com/blog/social/how-to-permanently-delete-your-facebook-account/392
07:53:17 PMadamjensen google markers are the latest black plague
07:53:20 PMvoodoosandman Transport them Scotty.
07:53:31 PM_Jot_ we better get away from the earth, before you know it, you'll get one of those big pins stuck in you, there's so many of them
07:53:40 PMGuest_Guy ny
07:53:46 PMagamotto At least it isn't Ebola
07:53:58 PMDave-Maydew that's true
07:53:59 PMagamotto Hmm, is that Taiwan or Okinawa?
07:54:00 PMBudda_Belly Any viewers in Antartica?
07:54:01 PMkyoshininja Huntington Beach, California...yay!
07:54:18 PMTennessee_Frank Gdebi Package problems in Point Linux 3.0b1
07:54:35 PMkyoshininja dos89: do mean command line interface scripting (like bash)?
07:54:35 PMDave-Maydew firewall??
07:54:41 PM_Jot_ Tenessee_Frank, yes, that permanently removes your access to your data, it doesn't let facebook delete it, or stop tracking you
07:54:42 PMTennessee_Frank Router should have a firewall
07:54:48 PMDave-Maydew NAT
07:55:09 PMTennessee_Frank _jot_ are you sure. The way I understood it was that everything went away after 2 weeks.
07:55:26 PMGoodGuy modern Windows dont need to run that way
07:55:47 PMGoodGuy You can have limited user accts w/o admin rights
07:55:53 PMTennessee_Frank I had to set my firewall on my router from medium to low in order to get IRC working
07:56:06 PM_Jot_ Tenessee_Frank, yes, its hidden in their license-agreement, as soon as you share something with somebody, it is never removed, which seems sensible, if somebody replies 'I agree', it makes sense that you can see what they agreed with. But the catch is that you always share data with facebook, so that gives them the loophole
07:56:52 PMTennessee_Frank _jot_ I think you need to bring over a case of beer and we'll talk about this.;-)
07:57:05 PMTennessee_Frank "admin"
07:57:19 PM_Jot_ I know it sounds paranoid, but its facebook were talking about, the site where you are the product
07:57:29 PMtic-toc_ I changed mine to 1234
07:57:38 PMTennessee_Frank I have my router locked down to my mac address for each thing that's on it and not visible
07:57:53 PMagamotto I wonder if pi could work as a password/phrase...
07:58:12 PMvoodoosandman Just commit yourself for you cyborg Facebook makover, Like a surgery only a cyber-upgrade. Resisting if Futile.
07:58:24 PM_Jot_ I think 3 doesn't work as a password too well
07:58:39 PMGoodGuy Watch HAK5 and they show how to bypass that sort of thing on wireless
07:58:39 PMTennessee_Frank Startpage
07:59:01 PMGoodGuy You can fake a mac address on linux
07:59:22 PMGoodGuy duplicate mac addresses would be noticable I imagine
07:59:58 PMmoloch_ Hi Robbie, just started watching tonight via the roku and I with my daughter. I don't have a tech question per say, however, if you do go ahead with more shoutouts, It would be awesome if you could say hi to Eva, my daughter as she's on sure how live streaming really is. Love the show and keep on going.
08:00:21 PMGoodGuy Hello Eva
08:00:29 PMTennessee_Frank I love canned Spam with eggs
08:00:29 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, say 'Hi Eva'
08:00:31 PMagamotto Hello, Eva
08:00:34 PMkyoshininja Hi moloch and Eva...welcome...
08:00:57 PMTennessee_Frank Two Hour Show RobbieF
08:00:58 PMFlatslide I love Spam
08:01:05 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, say Hi to Eva
08:01:23 PM_Jot_ KelseyJ say 'Hi Eva'?
08:01:25 PMDennis_Kelley No Way, RobbieF talk for an hour?
08:01:36 PMagamotto Hillary! I am going to miss Hillary!
08:01:39 PMTennessee_Frank So you'll have a Co host and a Co-Co host
08:01:46 PM_Jot_ don't make RobbieF talk an extra hour, he'll never stop!
08:01:59 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed Thank you :)
08:02:13 PMGoodGuy Let's get ready to Rumble!
08:02:31 PM_Jot_ KelseyJ, it hurts because people who type have strong hands :)
08:02:32 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed I didn't falla a sleep ;-)
08:02:40 PM_Jot_ even if they look like a geek :)
08:02:58 PMajamison5579 wow i just happened to log into my catch all email address i never use that my hosting provider gave me it had over 221K spam messages dating all the way back to 2009
08:03:01 PMnapa_polarbear q
08:03:06 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed Hi all See you :-D
08:03:10 PMDave-Maydew _jot_ how did you know what I look like
08:03:15 PMDave-Maydew hahaha
08:03:19 PMTennessee_Frank That went by way to fast RobbieF
08:03:22 PMagamotto ajamison5579, Wow talk about a full dustbin
08:03:42 PM_Jot_ Dave-Maydew, maybe I saw you on google+ or the viewer photobooth on the site :)
08:03:54 PMDave-Maydew hahahaha
08:03:56 PMTennessee_Frank Still need to figure out why Gdebi isn't working with Point Linux 3.0
08:04:00 PMDave-Maydew Yeah I remember that
08:04:08 PMDave-Maydew I still have the Goatee
08:04:11 PMajamison5579 agamotto yeah the only reason i checked it is because they sent me an email saying they closed my catch all address due to spam so i checked it and was like yep its spam
08:04:12 PMajamison5579 lol
08:04:31 PMDave-Maydew We should run a Cat5 Hangout once in a while
08:04:49 PMDave-Maydew for those who are stuck with something on Linux
08:05:03 PMrobgor great show robbief & KelseyJ
08:05:03 PMGoodGuy moloch_- the hosts cant always watch the chat room while talking.. The streaming is live if you hang around long enough to hear chat room questions answered off and on
08:05:07 PMagamotto Well, I must away. My dog's belly-rub indicator is going off.
08:05:22 PMDave-Maydew I'm good for the Amateur Radio and Linux stuff
08:05:23 PMTennessee_Frank So when are you going to convert to Linux KelseyJ ??
08:05:23 PMDave-Maydew :D
08:05:26 PMGoodGuy lol agamotto
08:05:33 PM_Jot_ have a nice time agamotto
08:05:35 PMajamison5579 every time i go to make the switch to Linux full time a new awesome game that does not run on Linux comes out so I end up staying :|
08:05:54 PMDave-Maydew don't work too hard agamotto
08:06:00 PMGoodGuy Dual boot ajamison5579
08:06:03 PMTennessee_Frank SteamOS is your friend ajamison5579
08:06:21 PMDave-Maydew I'm a huge steam user
08:06:29 PMajamison5579 Steam OS still does not work with some games even some on steam
08:06:32 PMajamison5579 and I do dual boot
08:06:34 PMGoodGuy The newest games arent always offered on steam for Linux
08:06:35 PMkyoshininja ajamison5579: have you tried Steam on linux?
08:06:38 PMTennessee_Frank I use to be hooked on Half-Life, LOL
08:06:46 PMrobgor or get a console ajamison5579
08:06:46 PMDave-Maydew but I'm waiting to see a huge game arrive for Linux
08:06:52 PMTennessee_Frank Valve has some pretty cool games but I'm not into gaming that much anymore
08:07:08 PMDave-Maydew It helps pass time
08:07:14 PMajamison5579 robgor i thought about that but i do not want to be sucked into the whole buy a console for this game or never play it crap MS does
08:07:16 PMRobbieF Thanks everyone! Hope you had fun!
08:07:21 PMajamison5579 I may still get one
08:07:22 PMajamison5579 lol
08:07:26 PMkyoshininja Thanks RobbieF
08:07:27 PMDave-Maydew RobbieF pleasuer
08:07:34 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF you really need to think about doing a two hour show.
08:07:37 PMDave-Maydew Argh fat fingers again
08:07:43 PMDave-Maydew pleasure RobbieF
08:07:44 PMDave-Maydew lol
08:07:47 PMRobbieF No way Tennessee_Frank :)
08:07:55 PMRobbieF I mean, sure, send loads of cash, I'll consider it.
08:07:56 PMRobbieF :)
08:08:05 PMrobgor anyone using the new intel nuc small factor pc?
08:08:23 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, ahh, why not??
08:08:29 PMTennessee_Frank http://entanglement.gopherwoodstudios.com/
08:08:31 PMRobbieF Budget?
08:08:38 PMRobbieF It already costs a small fortune to run this ship.
08:08:42 PMTennessee_Frank Cool game I found on an older Peppermint 4 CD
08:09:02 PMTennessee_Frank Chris and Matt over at Linux Action Show do a two plus hour show every Sunday
08:09:25 PM_Jot_ RobbieF has a live on sunday :)
08:09:30 PM_Jot_ life*
08:09:32 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF you mean you don't have FUN just sitting and talking Linux,
08:09:33 PM_Jot_ live life
08:10:12 PMrobgor oh well must go and do some work seya guys
08:10:21 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF now that you have a Roku you need to check out Jupiter Broadcasting and also Dr.Bil Baily
08:10:21 PMvoodoosandman You become a techy GURU or Evangelize your show Robbie.
08:10:25 PMRobbieF Oh I have a BLAST, but I also pay to do it.
08:10:28 PMGoodGuy I still miss Brian as cohost on Linux Action Show... he offered up different viewpoints
08:10:29 PMTennessee_Frank c ya robgor
08:10:34 PMRobbieF Yeah I know Dr. Bill.
08:10:41 PMBudda_Belly Robbief I'm new here. I sent in a question that didn't get answered. Will you continue with them next week?
08:10:42 PMRobbieF He's part of TPN just like us :)
08:11:02 PMRobbieF Hi Budda_Belly. So sorry we didn't get to your question. Yes, we roll them over each week if we don't get them in.
08:11:05 PMGoodGuy Dr Bill is ok, but it seems to waste a lot of the time during a show
08:11:12 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF I got worried last week because he didn't post a show. Finally he got one posted so I knew he was ok
08:11:23 PMBudda_Belly Great. Thanks.
08:12:22 PMRobbieF :)
08:12:32 PMDave-Maydew Anyway guys and gals, I must retire to bed
08:12:41 PMDave-Maydew I shall be back next week
08:12:41 PMRobbieF have a great night dave-maydew
08:12:43 PMRobbieF Great seeing you
08:12:44 PMGoodGuy nite Dave-Maydew
08:12:44 PM_Jot_ sleep well Dave-Maydew
08:12:45 PMkyoshininja Seeya Dave-Maydew
08:12:53 PMKelseyJ Night Dave-Maydew
08:12:53 PMBudda_Belly Gotta go and get some dinner. See everyone next week.
08:12:54 PMTennessee_Frank So is there a reason that Gdebi won't work with a Debian Testing Distro???
08:13:11 PMDave-Maydew Good night RobbieF, _Jot_ GoodGuy and all
08:13:16 PMkyoshininja Seeya Budda_Belly
08:13:30 PM_Jot_ have a nice dinner Budda_Belly
08:13:47 PMBudda_Belly Thanks.
08:14:32 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed Out there it's about to come on http://www.category5.tv :s statistics over most used word I think you would write to people here because something like that really could still give you first place over the most used word :) And I won the shirt on http://www.studiotech.tv live show this evenig. That hit the top score of statistic this night :-D Se you all next week and some of you tomorrow. By the way I fell asleep on the http:
08:15:05 PMFBTV-Gunnar-Swed Night :-/
08:15:08 PMTennessee_Frank Oh well, I'm going to go see what my wife is watching on TV. C ya'll later.
08:15:18 PM_Jot_ sleep well FBTV-Gunnar_Swed :)
08:15:22 PMGoodGuy Bye Tennessee_Frank
08:15:25 PM_Jot_ see you Tennessee_Frank
08:15:50 PMkyoshininja Have a good night _jot_ and everyone...going to see if I can get manjaro openbox installed on an old PIII laptop.
08:16:16 PM_Jot_ should be an adventure, I think many distros don
08:16:24 PM_Jot_ don't support old computers anymore, but I hope I'm wrong
08:16:25 PMGoodGuy Manjaro is Arch based, isnt it?
08:16:56 PMGoodGuy Puppy Linux flavors support old hardware
08:17:41 PMRobbieF How was the show?
08:18:18 PMGoodGuy Might try an older Ubuntu also. my wife runs Ubuntu 10.04 on an old AMD T-Bird.... a few issues but mostly works
08:18:38 PMGoodGuy Flash has a problem with old AMD chips
08:18:54 PMGoodGuy so have to stick with an outdated flash
08:19:41 PMGoodGuy I installed Point Linux and she still wants Ubuntu because it is peppy on the old relic lol
08:21:02 PMGoodGuy If you have a CD/DVD drive in the laptop, you can use the Plop bootloader and get it to boot from USB... make Puppy Linux flash drives
08:21:27 PMGoodGuy Last I checked, the CD had to be IDE but old PCs will have that
08:22:37 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, show was fine, felt a bit short, and few questions, but I was looking for the kodak-solutionthing so didn't pay too much attention :)
08:22:56 PM_Jot_ he probably got the driver from cups, at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/
08:24:08 PMRobbieF :) The show was the same length as ever :)
08:24:13 PMRobbieF I think we covered a fair bit!
08:24:19 PMRobbieF I hope it was fun, all considering.
08:24:36 PMRobbieF next week we'll continue where we left off, and hopefully there's no BIG news like Heartbleed to take time.
08:24:46 PMRobbieF But sometimes, it's just too important to not talk about
08:26:18 PMGoodGuy RobbieF - why cant I get the live player to open in a window by itself like I used to?
08:26:46 PMGoodGuy Today I had to display the browser tab etc
08:27:00 PM_Jot_ yeah, live.cat5.tv/main gave a 404 :)
08:27:06 PMRobbieF GoodGuy--sorry about that... that'd be my oversight. I've been working hard to upgrade the live streams to support more viewers (due to Roku) and in so doing I broke that feature. I'll make sure that's fixed for next week.
08:27:10 PMrats_ RobbieF: the show was good, you and ajamison5579 worked well together Good Job
08:27:23 PMrats_ and TY
08:27:35 PMRobbieF cheers, glad you enjoyed yourself.
08:27:40 PMajamison5579 rats_ what I had nothing to do with the show lol
08:27:40 PMRobbieF I just LOVE the time we have every Tuesday night.
08:27:43 PMGoodGuy I usually place the video window in the upper right of the IRC
08:27:57 PMGoodGuy Cool thanks RobbieF
08:28:17 PMRobbieF We'll call it growing pains, k GoodGuy? I'll make sure you're set for next week
08:28:24 PMRobbieF you'll get there through live.cat5.tv though, even still.
08:28:30 PMRobbieF the old links will no longer work
08:28:31 PMGoodGuy understood :-)
08:28:43 PMrats_ sry
08:29:01 PMRobbieF To be fair, I think ajamison5579 and I get along great! :)
08:29:15 PMGoodGuy I saw a couple folks mention the Roku was buffering off and on.... happened to me
08:29:24 PMGoodGuy phone
08:29:51 PMajamison5579 lol its ok rats_
08:30:23 PMRobbieF Yes, 3 times the roku stream got overloaded.
08:30:32 PMRobbieF that's when you saw me looking up and tapping the screen.
08:31:05 PMrats_ RobbieF: is there a reason you didn't mention KDE 4._ last week
08:31:17 PMRobbieF Was the picture a) notably better tonight, b) the same as recent episodes or c) notably worse?
08:31:29 PM_Jot_ it seemed worse on the livestream
08:31:31 PM_Jot_ more grainy
08:32:12 PMRobbieF rats_ only because none of the distros we were looking at ran it... I could only install so many, so I went with a) the biggest and b) the ones I like.
08:32:26 PMRobbieF it was entirely a "that's not the point, so it doesn't matter" thing.
08:32:34 PMajamison5579 that and your not a big KDE 4 fan are you Robbief
08:32:37 PMRobbieF My point was to try as many as you like, until you find the one that's right for you.
08:32:46 PMRobbieF It's entirely true, I'm a Gnome 2 baby.
08:32:52 PMRobbieF but I didn't specifically omit KDE 4
08:33:01 PMRobbieF I just didn't have a distro that I wanted to show which had it.
08:33:09 PMRobbieF and I was all Deb based for the main ones.
08:33:16 PMRobbieF so Fedora was not one I was going to get into
08:33:25 PM_Jot_ youtube won't let me watch back so that worse is just what I remember, but it didn't look bad, just slightly I guess
08:33:33 PMRobbieF because then it'd be too easy to become yum vs. apt... and that wasn't the point of the segment.
08:33:44 PMRobbieF I would be happy to do more Linux features on future shows, demonstrating other distros
08:34:12 PMRobbieF slightly worse, Jot?
08:34:37 PM_Jot_ yeah, felt like there was a bit less colour
08:34:44 PMRobbieF hmm
08:34:45 PMRobbieF k
08:34:47 PM_Jot_ not as vibrant
08:35:19 PM_Jot_ if I go to http://live.cat5.tv/ then the ecoalkalines looks fine, but the text below that looks a bit off like that
08:35:27 PM_Jot_ I mean the white stuff
08:36:38 PMrats_ Again Thanks and good nite
08:36:41 PM_Jot_ thats of course just 480p, but that is what youtube broadcasts, so I guess that matters :)
08:36:52 PMrats_ Godd Nite All
08:36:58 PMRobbieF night rats_
08:36:59 PM_Jot_ night rats_
08:37:00 PMRobbieF great seeing you again
08:37:24 PMRobbieF _Jot_ sorry; I don't mean the feed... I mean the camera.
08:37:40 PMRobbieF I used one of the Logitech webcams tonight as our A roll
08:38:10 PM_Jot_ usually they do fine :)
08:38:49 PMDennis_Kelley Anyone know where i can buy a laptop with linux on it or atleast a bare HD
08:39:12 PMRobbieF dk how new?
08:39:20 PMRobbieF there is a lot of ewaste right now due to xp
08:39:51 PMRobbieF and by e-waste, I mean good working laptops that have xp on them just waiting to be re-formatted, but the user replaced them with win 7 or 8
08:40:42 PMDennis_Kelley I am ok with older but i got the money to spend on new also
08:41:21 PM_Jot_ I guess the question is what you plan to do with it, so you know wether you need new or old
08:41:26 PMRobbieF I wonder if you could find a computer shop that does e-waste...
08:41:52 PMRobbieF like, if someone walked in my shop's door and said "Do you have any e-waste laptops that still work that you'd sell me for a Linux install", we'd probably have something.
08:42:14 PMRobbieF because we do e-recycling, and people come in to buy a windows 7 laptop and we recycle their old one
08:42:21 PMRobbieF we hold it for 30 days first ,and then recycle
08:42:41 PMRobbieF and by recycle, it may mean we put linux on it and give it to a family member :)
08:42:46 PMDennis_Kelley i will look into that
08:42:51 PMRobbieF it's worth checking, I think.
08:42:58 PMRobbieF we've had some decent enough ones go through
08:43:07 PMDennis_Kelley my dell e1505 laptop will no longer boot
08:43:22 PM_Jot_ the RobbieF e-waste recovery service :)
08:43:24 PMDennis_Kelley wont even power on
08:43:33 PMRobbieF but realistically, if you have money, I'd buy a really nice Asus laptop regardless of the Windows license included with it, and just wipe it.
08:43:40 PMRobbieF psu?
08:43:41 PMRobbieF battery?
08:43:47 PMRobbieF did you remove the battery and hold the power button?
08:44:01 PMRobbieF (with power unplugged)
08:44:07 PMDennis_Kelley yep
08:44:16 PMRobbieF too bad
08:44:20 PMRobbieF mobo issue most likely
08:44:24 PMDennis_Kelley new battery about a month old
08:44:24 PMRobbieF not likely worth fixing
08:44:29 PMRobbieF ouch
08:45:13 PMDennis_Kelley i was thinking mobo. it has been working slow for about a week and very hard to turn on from a complete shutdown
08:45:28 PMRobbieF hdd then?
08:45:29 PMDennis_Kelley i would have to attempt to reboot 4 or 5 times
08:45:33 PMRobbieF was it running hot?
08:45:38 PMDennis_Kelley yes
08:45:44 PMRobbieF maybe the cooling system then...
08:45:51 PMDennis_Kelley but would it boot with no HD
08:45:58 PMDennis_Kelley and say no op sysytem
08:45:59 PMRobbieF no POST?
08:46:04 PMDennis_Kelley no post
08:46:05 PMRobbieF does it POST?
08:46:07 PMRobbieF no?
08:46:37 PMRobbieF Chances are good then that the cooling system failed and overheated and burnt out the CPU
08:47:17 PMDennis_Kelley numlock scroll lock and capos lock stay on for about 3 secs. then all power off with no boot
08:47:33 PMRobbieF any beep code?
08:47:46 PMDennis_Kelley that is what i am thinking, when should the cpu fan start
08:47:52 PMDennis_Kelley no beep
08:48:10 PM_Jot_ fan starts automaticly immediatly, it is stopped if not required later
08:48:22 PMDennis_Kelley no fan at all
08:48:37 PMDennis_Kelley i do see a led on main board light up
08:48:44 PM_Jot_ most likely the fan is burned out, and the processor shuts down to protect itsself
08:49:00 PM_Jot_ but could be a lot of things
08:49:13 PMRobbieF yeah but not posting means it probably already burnt out the cpu
08:49:28 PM_Jot_ nah, then the lights wouldn't even go on
08:49:38 PMDennis_Kelley i powered the fan with a battery and it spun. is there a thermal device on the fan usually
08:49:39 PMRobbieF memory then
08:50:31 PM_Jot_ this is starting to be the longest episode of category5.tv ever, its still going on :)
08:50:49 PMRobbieF :)
08:51:08 PM_Jot_ of course it has the same screen for a while now, so maybe its just burned in :)
08:51:40 PM_Jot_ almost 160 minutes :)
08:52:16 PMDennis_Kelley I don;t know. i guess it lived its time. i got it from my mom and put linux on it. been working good for awhile now. maybe its just time
08:52:59 PM_Jot_ I'd try to find the service manual for it, and see what that says
09:02:31 PMDennis_Kelley Ok I guess that i will do some shopping! thanks for the advise. catch ya all next week
09:24:56 PMRobbieF :P

Participants

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BobK54
Budda_Belly
Dave-Maydew
Dennis_Kelley
FBTV-Gunnar-Swed
Flatslide
GoodGuy
Guest_Guy
KelseyJ
RobbieF
SpareParts
Tennessee_Frank
_Jot_
adamjensen
agamotto
ajamison5579
dos89
gpop7
kyoshininja
moloch_
napa_polarbear
rats_
robgor
tic-toc_
voodoosandman