06:58:24 PM | robgor | RobbieF dont listen to Jot I think your bald head looks good. That coming from another bald guy lol
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06:58:44 PM | _Jot_ | I think I might be getting bald too, at least I've noticed my hair getting thinner
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06:59:05 PM | ajamison5579 | Baldness is a sign that your brain is to large to be confined by a full head of hair
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06:59:13 PM | ajamison5579 | or so i keep telling myself lol
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06:59:15 PM | voodoosandman | Better to be bald all the time than not bald at all,
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06:59:30 PM | _Jot_ | bald people grow hair on the inside, no room for brains
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06:59:37 PM | kyoshininja | HI all
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06:59:41 PM | RobbieF | \o
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06:59:43 PM | RobbieF | hve fun folks!
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06:59:44 PM | _Jot_ | hi kyoshininja
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06:59:55 PM | _Jot_ | don't forget to smile :)
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07:00:01 PM | Tennessee_Frank | :-D
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07:00:06 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | :-D
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07:00:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, Howdy RobbieF
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07:00:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Tax Day
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07:00:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello All!
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07:01:07 PM | _Jot_ | hi Dennis_Kelley
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07:01:12 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Hi
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07:01:31 PM | agamotto | Hallo all
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07:01:38 PM | _Jot_ | hi agamotto
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07:01:45 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ah just in time
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07:01:50 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ah just in time
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07:01:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | :D
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07:01:59 PM | _Jot_ | hey Dave_Maydew, you made it :)
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07:02:03 PM | ajamison5579 | Can you guys give away a free Tesla Model S Robbief ? That would be fantastic lol
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07:02:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Google=SkyNet
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07:02:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey _Jot_
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07:02:15 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579, sure, buy one to give away and he will :)
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07:02:26 PM | agamotto | So nice to have the day off
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07:02:53 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey agamotto
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07:02:53 PM | ajamison5579 | _jot_ if I could afford one i would not need him to give one away lol
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07:03:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | it's been a while
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07:03:09 PM | napa_polarbear | hello all
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07:03:15 PM | _Jot_ | hi napa_polarbear
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07:03:32 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew, I have been working a lot of mids. I will be at work for next week's episode :(
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07:03:37 PM | _Jot_ | ajamison5579, if you can't afford to buy one, you probably can't afford to maintain it either after you have one, so maybe its better you don't have one :)
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07:03:37 PM | kyoshininja | Hi napa_polarbear
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07:04:04 PM | _Jot_ | The link that RobbieF is talking about http://shop.category5.tv for t-shirts, roku, and all kinds of stuff!
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07:04:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | Oh boy agamotto! I've missed a couple too
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07:04:17 PM | Dave-Maydew | Glad to be here tonight though
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07:04:20 PM | _Jot_ | if you just want to donate some money, you can do that through the store, or go to http://cat5.tv/c
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07:04:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, YouTube has some lag between video and audio.
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07:04:33 PM | SpareParts | Thats Me!!
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07:04:36 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew, How are things at your end?
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07:04:37 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ok, now it looks better
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07:04:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | Welcome to the new new viewers and the Noobs to Linux
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07:04:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | all Distro's of Linux that is
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07:04:49 PM | SpareParts | yep thank your roku
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07:04:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Roku is awesome
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07:05:05 PM | agamotto | I can't image trying to do the chat with a Roku...
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07:05:14 PM | kyoshininja | Roku had a slight sync between video and audio delay, but it only lasted a minute...fine now.
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07:05:17 PM | _Jot_ | If you want a roku, go to http://cat5.tv/roku and if you have one, and want to add category5, go to http://cat5.tv/rokuchannel
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07:05:48 PM | robgor | talking about t-shirts when are the ones that have been sold atm beeing shipped or do a certain amount need to be sold before they are produced and shipped?
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07:06:18 PM | _Jot_ | yes, they go by a dozen, to set up for printing etc, otherwise it is too expensive
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07:06:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Debian has a patch for 1.0.1e
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07:06:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | 1.0.1e-2_deb 1u6
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07:06:41 PM | _Jot_ | more than a dozen is fine too of course, but less than a dozen is no good yet :) but they'll come
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07:06:44 PM | Tennessee_Frank | 7u6
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07:06:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Of course Debian Testing is 1.0.1g so it's good
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07:07:21 PM | robgor | ok as I placed an order for mine a while ago
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07:07:28 PM | _Jot_ | For information about heartbleed, see http://cat5.tv/heartbleed
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07:07:59 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Caught that on my Google+ page.
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07:08:44 PM | _Jot_ | robgor, I always hope lots of people buy some more :) otherwise eventually I'm going to have to pay for a dozen, just so I know they can be made for sure :)
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07:08:50 PM | agamotto | So, how long should I wait to change my passwords? What 'version' will be considered safe?
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07:09:12 PM | Tennessee_Frank | agamotto, depends on weather or not the web site has a patch in place.
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07:09:15 PM | _Jot_ | wait untill the serviceprovider tells you they upgraded their openssl version, or are not vulnerable to it
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07:09:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | This thing has been going on for two years.
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07:09:34 PM | Dave-Maydew | Who thought of the name of this bug?
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07:09:38 PM | agamotto | I see, so it is more of a problem on 'their' end than mine...
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07:09:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | It comes from the Heartbeat that OpenSSL was using to stay connected
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07:09:59 PM | _Jot_ | the link at http://cat5.tv/heartbleed shows many sites that are vulnerable, or not anymore
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07:09:59 PM | agamotto | _Jot_, Hmmm, interesting
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07:10:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | The Heartbeat "leaked" so they called it Heartbleed.
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07:10:10 PM | tic-toc_ | This is why I never put or use anything important on the web. Consumption only....
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07:10:25 PM | Tennessee_Frank | We actually got a dusting of snow here in Crossville, TN today as well.
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07:10:37 PM | robgor | agamotto you can get extensions for chrome and firefox etc that check the sites you visit
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07:10:44 PM | agamotto | Our snow was melting as it came down on Monday
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07:10:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ah RobbieF that's what happens here in the UK... 3 flakes of snow and things come to a standstill
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07:11:05 PM | agamotto | robgor, Hmmm, even better
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07:11:48 PM | robgor | also might be an idea to contact your isp to see if your modem/router is afftected as its more than the websites that can be affected internet connected devices can be a problem also
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07:12:08 PM | agamotto | robgor, really?
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07:12:27 PM | agamotto | I am so glad I don't do online banking
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07:12:35 PM | robgor | yep was reading about that last night
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07:13:02 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | 29.01 28.18 14.09 :-D
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07:13:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | She Got it yah
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07:13:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am sure i did edit the right fstab
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07:13:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF can you drag and drop
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07:13:56 PM | agamotto | Is there a left one?
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07:14:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | I've done that with Android Devices too
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07:14:26 PM | robgor | maybe a error in the fstab command you added denis kelly
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07:15:06 PM | agamotto | I use TeamViewer to keep my grandma's system current
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07:15:14 PM | napa_polarbear | freefillsync worrks good
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07:15:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ahh, ok, we're doing this in Terminal. Got it.
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07:15:18 PM | voodoosandman | Won't "captcha" lead to "SkyNet"
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07:15:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Yep, have to do that Ctrl H
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07:15:55 PM | tic-toc_ | gksu nautilus won't work ?
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07:16:17 PM | robgor | also doing a backup denis kelly would have been a good idea before doing changes to fstab etc
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07:16:18 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Command Line is something I still need to learn more about.
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07:16:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | My Wordpress site is updated!! Phew
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07:16:38 PM | _Jot_ | knowing the commandline is always useful
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07:17:22 PM | napa_polarbear | like useing dos
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07:17:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I can do a lot of "apt-get" stuff and stuff like dpkg --configure -a but that's about as far as I get, LOL
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07:18:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Yes!
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07:18:12 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Worse comes to Worse just reinstall Point Linux
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07:18:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've borked a system a few times and had to reinstall
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07:18:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ubuntu 14.04LTS comes out Thursday
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07:18:47 PM | _Jot_ | just make sure you have plenty of backups
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07:19:05 PM | agamotto | Yes, new distros to try right before my birthday
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07:19:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I keep all my "stuff" on an external hard drive. Only have the basic stuff installed on the the actual laptops
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07:19:29 PM | rats_ | Dave-Maydew: will that be the distro release
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07:19:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I think that i ran out of space on my HD, so i added a replacement and moved my home folder. then I had issues, probably like robgor and RobbieF suggested
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07:19:51 PM | _Jot_ | jots find you? oh wait, bots
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07:20:03 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'll be installing 14.04LTS on both my Desktop and main laptop, but will be using Lubuntu 14.04 onto my Ham Radio Laptop
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07:20:05 PM | _Jot_ | jot is not a bot, but a jot
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07:20:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, Jot bot,
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07:20:24 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol Jot Bot
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07:20:47 PM | _Jot_ | beep!
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07:20:55 PM | agamotto | It will be interesting to see what changes come into Mythbuntu... tuner support right now is... wanting
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07:20:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I got the jot bot I bought.
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07:20:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahahaha
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07:21:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I thought
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07:21:10 PM | gpop7 | hello everyone
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07:21:15 PM | _Jot_ | hi gpop7
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07:21:20 PM | Dave-Maydew | Hey gpop7
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07:21:25 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Howdy
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07:21:33 PM | kyoshininja | Hey gpop7
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07:21:51 PM | agamotto | shpoopie shpoopie
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07:21:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Heartbleed mostly effects the servers, not the clients
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07:21:59 PM | gpop7 | howdy hi hey hey
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07:22:17 PM | Dave-Maydew | Can't believe I'm having to taint my hands with Windows 7 on my Sisters laptop
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07:22:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I patched OpenSSL on my laptops the day that Debian came out with the patch.
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07:22:32 PM | _Jot_ | windows 7 isn't entirely bad
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07:22:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | But who knows when the servers will get around to it
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07:22:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | The only problem with Windows 7 is that it's a MicroSoft produce, LOL
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07:23:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | product
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07:23:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | _Jot_ she had XP and didn't realise that it had stopped support
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07:23:20 PM | Dave-Maydew | so, big brother came to the rescue
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07:23:30 PM | agamotto | Dave-Maydew, No, true taint would be XP
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07:23:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I'm surprised that Windows 7 would run on an XP machine
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07:24:03 PM | _Jot_ | weird, there have been messages about it, if she kept it up to date
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07:24:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | It's a 2.2ghz Celeron with 2Gb RAM
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07:24:15 PM | agamotto | It tends to run better on most older laptops
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07:24:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | it'll run but yawn
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07:24:36 PM | _Jot_ | even automatic updates installed the warn-user-about-no-support, and the anti-virus warns every time that it doesn't work anymore because the OS isn't supported
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07:24:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | A good Debian install of one kind or another would run better then Windows 7 IMHO
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07:24:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Point Linux, SolydX
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07:25:22 PM | Dave-Maydew | the laptop has a GPU that won't work on Linux
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07:25:30 PM | Dave-Maydew | it has a SIS 641
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07:25:35 PM | agamotto | Tennessee_Frank, agreed, but there are so many who 'have' to have Win for that one program that won't run under WINE or have a linux version
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07:26:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My Brother is like that, he has to run Windows because a program he needs wont' run well under WINE
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07:26:22 PM | robgor | lol robbief plugin star trek
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07:27:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | .tar.gz
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07:27:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | you have to extract it, total PITA,
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07:27:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Never had any luck with em'
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07:27:52 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, the kodak site is http://support.en.kodak.com/app/answers/list/c/890/selected/true but I forgot the printer, so I can't find it fast :)
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07:28:05 PM | Flatslide | Thank you Robbie
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07:28:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've been fighting a friends HP printer with the Point Linux 2.3 install that I did for him.
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07:28:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Printers are tough sometimes
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07:28:33 PM | napa_polarbear | do ark work with gz
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07:28:54 PM | agamotto | The only things keeping my mother from going 100% linux are Family Tree Maker, and PrintShopo
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07:29:18 PM | agamotto | PrintShop that should be
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07:29:47 PM | Tennessee_Frank | CUPS won't work with a Kodak printer???
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07:30:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Dr.Bill is using E-Sword with WINE on a Linux install
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07:30:57 PM | napa_polarbear | dont forget play on linux
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07:31:04 PM | Tennessee_Frank | make it appear
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07:31:11 PM | _Jot_ | CUSP seems to support the ESP 3.2
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07:31:14 PM | Tennessee_Frank | :-D
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07:31:29 PM | _Jot_ | CUPS*
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07:31:55 PM | _Jot_ | theres files for kodak at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/ but apparently it may not work entirely
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07:32:13 PM | Dave-Maydew | Don't forget about the paid version
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07:32:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | CrossOver
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07:32:33 PM | _Jot_ | there are some instructions for the kodak at http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=157244&p=815712
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07:33:18 PM | _Jot_ | http://www.codeweavers.com/ for crossover
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07:33:21 PM | GoodGuy | CrossOver Linux now
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07:33:39 PM | tic-toc_ | Does it do quick books?
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07:33:41 PM | GoodGuy | _Jot_, posted it
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07:33:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Leaves me out. I'm so broke I can't even pay attention. LOL
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07:33:56 PM | Dave-Maydew | I've actually been useful for something!!
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07:33:56 PM | voodoosandman | Cups and swords, computing and Tarot theres a Link____________
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07:34:05 PM | agamotto | Elder Scrolls Online?
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07:34:08 PM | _Jot_ | you're always useful Dave-Maydew :)
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07:34:20 PM | kyoshininja | tic-toc: have you ever tried gnucash?
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07:34:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LibreOffice
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07:34:30 PM | _Jot_ | if nothing else, you can always buy stuff from http://shop.category5.tv or fork money over at http://cat5.tv/c
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07:34:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | Is Elder Scrolls not on STEAM??
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07:34:35 PM | GoodGuy | How come I can't get the Youtube player to break out in a separate windows like I used to?
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07:34:50 PM | GoodGuy | Cant watch while chatting
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07:35:10 PM | _Jot_ | Elder scrolls? Only 3, 4 and 5, not the earlier versions, and also not the online variant
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07:35:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I have two laptops going during the show, one for chat and one for live feed
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07:35:28 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy, Hit watch live, then shrink the window
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07:35:29 PM | Dave-Maydew | 480p
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07:35:33 PM | Dave-Maydew | live
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07:35:47 PM | Guest_Guy | just some feedback....lots of buffering on the Roku tonight
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07:35:55 PM | agamotto | Ahh, so if I wanted to move Skyrim over, I could... hrm
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07:36:05 PM | kyoshininja | my Roku is having frequent buffering/reloads. Short, but missing some content/discussions.
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07:36:19 PM | GoodGuy | I have two screens, but rarely use the second one because moving my head hurts rather quickly
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07:36:24 PM | tic-toc_ | Does gnucash accept quickbooks backup to transfer data?
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07:36:33 PM | Dave-Maydew | Been enjoying myself playing ShadowRun
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07:36:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:37:20 PM | GoodGuy | I just did that agamotto but I used to be able to just show the player window w/o the tab etc
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07:37:26 PM | Dave-Maydew | NASA are launching numerous Ham Radio satellites on Friday
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07:37:38 PM | agamotto | ahhh
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07:37:40 PM | kyoshininja | tic-toc: I haven't used it most recently to import from quickbooks, but it always had *.qif file imports.
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07:38:57 PM | GoodGuy | Her partner must have to buy the whole florist to even rate an attaboy lol
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07:38:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My old flip phone will charge in about an hour and will last for around 3 or 4 days because I don't use it that much.
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07:39:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | It's a Pretty Possum
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07:39:15 PM | Dave-Maydew | Lithium may explode
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07:39:44 PM | Tennessee_Frank | If you feel depressed you can always chew on the battery to improve your mood.
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07:39:55 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahahaha
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07:40:05 PM | agamotto | Or destroy yur kidneys
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07:40:11 PM | _Jot_ | chewing batteries always is pretty shocking to me
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07:40:18 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL
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07:40:34 PM | GoodGuy | firmware updates hopefully
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07:40:52 PM | Dave-Maydew | Android 4.4.3 out soon too
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07:40:54 PM | agamotto | In short, it will probably work only on Comcast for awhile
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07:41:01 PM | adamjensen | it shocks me you people laugh at these jokes
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07:41:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Google fiber
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07:41:22 PM | voodoosandman | Blogging is like the old CB radio, Instead of Truck Driver nicknames like "Mudflap" They are just techier.
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07:41:24 PM | _Jot_ | adamjensen, I guess we're easily charged
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07:41:36 PM | GoodGuy | H265 codec for 4K
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07:41:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | voodoosandman and Facebook is like CB also
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07:41:55 PM | _Jot_ | sounds like a chatroom, voodoosandman
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07:42:02 PM | Dave-Maydew | hence why I stay off it now
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07:42:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Can a person even really tell the difference
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07:42:12 PM | kyoshininja | tic-toc: check out the website for gnucash where they have a link to documentation. Section 1.2.1 "Easy to Use" indicates that there is such functionality: http://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?doc=guide
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07:42:13 PM | agamotto | Did someone say 'Parkay?'
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07:42:14 PM | adamjensen | would you say your charged in 26 seconds
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07:42:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Butter
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07:42:47 PM | _Jot_ | I am always charged up during the live show :) It's just very exciting
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07:42:48 PM | adamjensen | margarine
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07:42:51 PM | Dave-Maydew | Is CAT5 streaming in 720p?
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07:43:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i used to live by that base
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07:43:15 PM | _Jot_ | Dave-Maydew, the show is recorded in 720p, I think streamed too, but not sure if youtube can keep up
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07:43:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm only able to get 480p on YouTube at present
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07:43:50 PM | _Jot_ | it is possible the livestreaming is only 480p and the 720p version later is uploaded
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07:43:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | owned by someone
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07:44:07 PM | agamotto | GI Joe w/Google Glass
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07:44:21 PM | tic-toc_ | Thanks - but my worry is that when the data is transfered it won't be exactly right, similar to whenever you transfer MS office to Libre or open office.
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07:44:56 PM | agamotto | Only 500m?
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07:45:02 PM | adamjensen | omg its a glow in the dark dance party on a highway!
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07:45:04 PM | _Jot_ | tic-toc_, that's why checksums can be helpful, generating them before and after and checking them to make sure they match, as a verification
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07:45:27 PM | GoodGuy | Crossover Linux has a free trial iirc
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07:45:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Nope, you'd not see a person along the road without street lights
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07:45:36 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, next time don't wear sunglasses at night
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07:45:49 PM | Dave-Maydew | coming home after a night on the beer
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07:45:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | and you see the street glowing
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07:46:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Need to paint the back of cars with that stuff
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07:46:21 PM | adamjensen | i need to paint my house with that
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07:46:24 PM | BobK54 | paint the pedestrians with that stuff!
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07:46:31 PM | voodoosandman | Ham is like CB but you can't hang a linear carrier signal. Without getting in trouble. A Ham Radio in Space?
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07:46:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | That was a good song
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07:46:33 PM | kyoshininja | tic-toc: I saw something about a commitment that gnucash has to supporting migration. However, I would think it's a process that starts with your assuring you have the same charts of accounts setup, etc.
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07:46:45 PM | Flatslide | Glowing lines would be good in the rain
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07:46:57 PM | Dave-Maydew | Ham Radio in space is already there
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07:47:00 PM | agamotto | I have to wear my amber lenses at night, or the headlights will do me in
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07:47:04 PM | Dave-Maydew | ISS, and satellites
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07:47:06 PM | Dave-Maydew | lovely
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07:47:41 PM | agamotto | biodegradable?
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07:47:45 PM | Dave-Maydew | and we will soon have a geostationary satellite running 2.4GHz uplink and 10GHz downlink
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07:47:53 PM | voodoosandman | Eater egg Painted grenades Happy Easter to all the troops..
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07:47:55 PM | adamjensen | paint squirrels with that paint youll never run another over
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07:48:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I dumped my Facebook account a couple weeks ago. Way too much drama.
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07:48:59 PM | _Jot_ | heh, you can't drop a facebook account
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07:49:12 PM | _Jot_ | you can stop using it, but they never stop tracking you, and never delete your account
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07:49:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Only have a Google+ account now. Much better, more Tech oriented.
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07:49:18 PM | Dave-Maydew | I live on Twitter
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07:49:25 PM | voodoosandman | I bet that wildlfe might not cross the road.
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07:49:28 PM | Dave-Maydew | and I use G+
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07:49:55 PM | agamotto | i have G+, but I can't claim to understand it
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07:49:59 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _jot_ actually you CAN delete your account. Once you do it you can't log back into it for 2 weeks or it'll reactivate.
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07:50:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | paint a sheep with that paint
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07:50:13 PM | tic-toc_ | Crossover doesn't support quickbooks
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07:50:50 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, you can stop accessing it, but they don't actually delete it. If you read the license-agreement, it says they won't delete stuff, if you shared it with somebody. And, you shared your details with facebook, so they won't actually remove it
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07:50:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, Two Hour show tonight???:-D
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07:50:54 PM | agamotto | We have UPS, FedEx, and DHL....
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07:52:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | KF4CGI is Darrell
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07:52:52 PM | agamotto | The US is infested!
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07:53:01 PM | dos89 | What is the best solution for using macros in Linux?
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07:53:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm not commenting on that agamotto
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07:53:09 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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07:53:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/social/how-to-permanently-delete-your-facebook-account/392
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07:53:17 PM | adamjensen | google markers are the latest black plague
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07:53:20 PM | voodoosandman | Transport them Scotty.
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07:53:31 PM | _Jot_ | we better get away from the earth, before you know it, you'll get one of those big pins stuck in you, there's so many of them
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07:53:40 PM | Guest_Guy | ny
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07:53:46 PM | agamotto | At least it isn't Ebola
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07:53:58 PM | Dave-Maydew | that's true
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07:53:59 PM | agamotto | Hmm, is that Taiwan or Okinawa?
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07:54:00 PM | Budda_Belly | Any viewers in Antartica?
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07:54:01 PM | kyoshininja | Huntington Beach, California...yay!
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07:54:18 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Gdebi Package problems in Point Linux 3.0b1
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07:54:35 PM | kyoshininja | dos89: do mean command line interface scripting (like bash)?
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07:54:35 PM | Dave-Maydew | firewall??
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07:54:41 PM | _Jot_ | Tenessee_Frank, yes, that permanently removes your access to your data, it doesn't let facebook delete it, or stop tracking you
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07:54:42 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Router should have a firewall
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07:54:48 PM | Dave-Maydew | NAT
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07:55:09 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _jot_ are you sure. The way I understood it was that everything went away after 2 weeks.
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07:55:26 PM | GoodGuy | modern Windows dont need to run that way
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07:55:47 PM | GoodGuy | You can have limited user accts w/o admin rights
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07:55:53 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I had to set my firewall on my router from medium to low in order to get IRC working
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07:56:06 PM | _Jot_ | Tenessee_Frank, yes, its hidden in their license-agreement, as soon as you share something with somebody, it is never removed, which seems sensible, if somebody replies 'I agree', it makes sense that you can see what they agreed with. But the catch is that you always share data with facebook, so that gives them the loophole
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07:56:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _jot_ I think you need to bring over a case of beer and we'll talk about this.;-)
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07:57:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | "admin"
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07:57:19 PM | _Jot_ | I know it sounds paranoid, but its facebook were talking about, the site where you are the product
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07:57:29 PM | tic-toc_ | I changed mine to 1234
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07:57:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I have my router locked down to my mac address for each thing that's on it and not visible
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07:57:53 PM | agamotto | I wonder if pi could work as a password/phrase...
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07:58:12 PM | voodoosandman | Just commit yourself for you cyborg Facebook makover, Like a surgery only a cyber-upgrade. Resisting if Futile.
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07:58:24 PM | _Jot_ | I think 3 doesn't work as a password too well
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07:58:39 PM | GoodGuy | Watch HAK5 and they show how to bypass that sort of thing on wireless
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07:58:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Startpage
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07:59:01 PM | GoodGuy | You can fake a mac address on linux
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07:59:22 PM | GoodGuy | duplicate mac addresses would be noticable I imagine
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07:59:58 PM | moloch_ | Hi Robbie, just started watching tonight via the roku and I with my daughter. I don't have a tech question per say, however, if you do go ahead with more shoutouts, It would be awesome if you could say hi to Eva, my daughter as she's on sure how live streaming really is. Love the show and keep on going.
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08:00:21 PM | GoodGuy | Hello Eva
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08:00:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I love canned Spam with eggs
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08:00:29 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, say 'Hi Eva'
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08:00:31 PM | agamotto | Hello, Eva
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08:00:34 PM | kyoshininja | Hi moloch and Eva...welcome...
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08:00:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Two Hour Show RobbieF
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08:00:58 PM | Flatslide | I love Spam
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08:01:05 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF, say Hi to Eva
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08:01:23 PM | _Jot_ | KelseyJ say 'Hi Eva'?
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08:01:25 PM | Dennis_Kelley | No Way, RobbieF talk for an hour?
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08:01:36 PM | agamotto | Hillary! I am going to miss Hillary!
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08:01:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | So you'll have a Co host and a Co-Co host
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08:01:46 PM | _Jot_ | don't make RobbieF talk an extra hour, he'll never stop!
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08:01:59 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Thank you :)
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08:02:13 PM | GoodGuy | Let's get ready to Rumble!
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08:02:31 PM | _Jot_ | KelseyJ, it hurts because people who type have strong hands :)
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08:02:32 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | I didn't falla a sleep ;-)
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08:02:40 PM | _Jot_ | even if they look like a geek :)
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08:02:58 PM | ajamison5579 | wow i just happened to log into my catch all email address i never use that my hosting provider gave me it had over 221K spam messages dating all the way back to 2009
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08:03:01 PM | napa_polarbear | q
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08:03:06 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Hi all See you :-D
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08:03:10 PM | Dave-Maydew | _jot_ how did you know what I look like
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08:03:15 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahaha
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08:03:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | That went by way to fast RobbieF
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08:03:22 PM | agamotto | ajamison5579, Wow talk about a full dustbin
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08:03:42 PM | _Jot_ | Dave-Maydew, maybe I saw you on google+ or the viewer photobooth on the site :)
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08:03:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | hahahaha
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08:03:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Still need to figure out why Gdebi isn't working with Point Linux 3.0
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08:04:00 PM | Dave-Maydew | Yeah I remember that
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08:04:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | I still have the Goatee
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08:04:11 PM | ajamison5579 | agamotto yeah the only reason i checked it is because they sent me an email saying they closed my catch all address due to spam so i checked it and was like yep its spam
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08:04:12 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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08:04:31 PM | Dave-Maydew | We should run a Cat5 Hangout once in a while
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08:04:49 PM | Dave-Maydew | for those who are stuck with something on Linux
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08:05:03 PM | robgor | great show robbief & KelseyJ
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08:05:03 PM | GoodGuy | moloch_- the hosts cant always watch the chat room while talking.. The streaming is live if you hang around long enough to hear chat room questions answered off and on
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08:05:07 PM | agamotto | Well, I must away. My dog's belly-rub indicator is going off.
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08:05:22 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm good for the Amateur Radio and Linux stuff
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08:05:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | So when are you going to convert to Linux KelseyJ ??
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08:05:23 PM | Dave-Maydew | :D
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08:05:26 PM | GoodGuy | lol agamotto
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08:05:33 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice time agamotto
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08:05:35 PM | ajamison5579 | every time i go to make the switch to Linux full time a new awesome game that does not run on Linux comes out so I end up staying :|
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08:05:54 PM | Dave-Maydew | don't work too hard agamotto
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08:06:00 PM | GoodGuy | Dual boot ajamison5579
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08:06:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SteamOS is your friend ajamison5579
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08:06:21 PM | Dave-Maydew | I'm a huge steam user
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08:06:29 PM | ajamison5579 | Steam OS still does not work with some games even some on steam
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08:06:32 PM | ajamison5579 | and I do dual boot
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08:06:34 PM | GoodGuy | The newest games arent always offered on steam for Linux
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08:06:35 PM | kyoshininja | ajamison5579: have you tried Steam on linux?
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08:06:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I use to be hooked on Half-Life, LOL
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08:06:46 PM | robgor | or get a console ajamison5579
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08:06:46 PM | Dave-Maydew | but I'm waiting to see a huge game arrive for Linux
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08:06:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Valve has some pretty cool games but I'm not into gaming that much anymore
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08:07:08 PM | Dave-Maydew | It helps pass time
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08:07:14 PM | ajamison5579 | robgor i thought about that but i do not want to be sucked into the whole buy a console for this game or never play it crap MS does
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08:07:16 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone! Hope you had fun!
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08:07:21 PM | ajamison5579 | I may still get one
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08:07:22 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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08:07:26 PM | kyoshininja | Thanks RobbieF
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08:07:27 PM | Dave-Maydew | RobbieF pleasuer
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08:07:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF you really need to think about doing a two hour show.
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08:07:37 PM | Dave-Maydew | Argh fat fingers again
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08:07:43 PM | Dave-Maydew | pleasure RobbieF
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08:07:44 PM | Dave-Maydew | lol
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08:07:47 PM | RobbieF | No way Tennessee_Frank :)
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08:07:55 PM | RobbieF | I mean, sure, send loads of cash, I'll consider it.
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08:07:56 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:08:05 PM | robgor | anyone using the new intel nuc small factor pc?
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08:08:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, ahh, why not??
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08:08:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | http://entanglement.gopherwoodstudios.com/
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08:08:31 PM | RobbieF | Budget?
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08:08:38 PM | RobbieF | It already costs a small fortune to run this ship.
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08:08:42 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Cool game I found on an older Peppermint 4 CD
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08:09:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Chris and Matt over at Linux Action Show do a two plus hour show every Sunday
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08:09:25 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF has a live on sunday :)
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08:09:30 PM | _Jot_ | life*
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08:09:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF you mean you don't have FUN just sitting and talking Linux,
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08:09:33 PM | _Jot_ | live life
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08:10:12 PM | robgor | oh well must go and do some work seya guys
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08:10:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF now that you have a Roku you need to check out Jupiter Broadcasting and also Dr.Bil Baily
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08:10:21 PM | voodoosandman | You become a techy GURU or Evangelize your show Robbie.
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08:10:25 PM | RobbieF | Oh I have a BLAST, but I also pay to do it.
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08:10:28 PM | GoodGuy | I still miss Brian as cohost on Linux Action Show... he offered up different viewpoints
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08:10:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | c ya robgor
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08:10:34 PM | RobbieF | Yeah I know Dr. Bill.
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08:10:41 PM | Budda_Belly | Robbief I'm new here. I sent in a question that didn't get answered. Will you continue with them next week?
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08:10:42 PM | RobbieF | He's part of TPN just like us :)
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08:11:02 PM | RobbieF | Hi Budda_Belly. So sorry we didn't get to your question. Yes, we roll them over each week if we don't get them in.
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08:11:05 PM | GoodGuy | Dr Bill is ok, but it seems to waste a lot of the time during a show
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08:11:12 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF I got worried last week because he didn't post a show. Finally he got one posted so I knew he was ok
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08:11:23 PM | Budda_Belly | Great. Thanks.
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08:12:22 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:12:32 PM | Dave-Maydew | Anyway guys and gals, I must retire to bed
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08:12:41 PM | Dave-Maydew | I shall be back next week
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08:12:41 PM | RobbieF | have a great night dave-maydew
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08:12:43 PM | RobbieF | Great seeing you
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08:12:44 PM | GoodGuy | nite Dave-Maydew
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08:12:44 PM | _Jot_ | sleep well Dave-Maydew
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08:12:45 PM | kyoshininja | Seeya Dave-Maydew
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08:12:53 PM | KelseyJ | Night Dave-Maydew
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08:12:53 PM | Budda_Belly | Gotta go and get some dinner. See everyone next week.
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08:12:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | So is there a reason that Gdebi won't work with a Debian Testing Distro???
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08:13:11 PM | Dave-Maydew | Good night RobbieF, _Jot_ GoodGuy and all
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08:13:16 PM | kyoshininja | Seeya Budda_Belly
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08:13:30 PM | _Jot_ | have a nice dinner Budda_Belly
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08:13:47 PM | Budda_Belly | Thanks.
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08:14:32 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Out there it's about to come on http://www.category5.tv :s statistics over most used word I think you would write to people here because something like that really could still give you first place over the most used word :) And I won the shirt on http://www.studiotech.tv live show this evenig. That hit the top score of statistic this night :-D Se you all next week and some of you tomorrow. By the way I fell asleep on the http:
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08:15:05 PM | FBTV-Gunnar-Swed | Night :-/
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08:15:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Oh well, I'm going to go see what my wife is watching on TV. C ya'll later.
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08:15:18 PM | _Jot_ | sleep well FBTV-Gunnar_Swed :)
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08:15:22 PM | GoodGuy | Bye Tennessee_Frank
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08:15:25 PM | _Jot_ | see you Tennessee_Frank
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08:15:50 PM | kyoshininja | Have a good night _jot_ and everyone...going to see if I can get manjaro openbox installed on an old PIII laptop.
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08:16:16 PM | _Jot_ | should be an adventure, I think many distros don
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08:16:24 PM | _Jot_ | don't support old computers anymore, but I hope I'm wrong
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08:16:25 PM | GoodGuy | Manjaro is Arch based, isnt it?
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08:16:56 PM | GoodGuy | Puppy Linux flavors support old hardware
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08:17:41 PM | RobbieF | How was the show?
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08:18:18 PM | GoodGuy | Might try an older Ubuntu also. my wife runs Ubuntu 10.04 on an old AMD T-Bird.... a few issues but mostly works
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08:18:38 PM | GoodGuy | Flash has a problem with old AMD chips
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08:18:54 PM | GoodGuy | so have to stick with an outdated flash
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08:19:41 PM | GoodGuy | I installed Point Linux and she still wants Ubuntu because it is peppy on the old relic lol
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08:21:02 PM | GoodGuy | If you have a CD/DVD drive in the laptop, you can use the Plop bootloader and get it to boot from USB... make Puppy Linux flash drives
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08:21:27 PM | GoodGuy | Last I checked, the CD had to be IDE but old PCs will have that
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08:22:37 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, show was fine, felt a bit short, and few questions, but I was looking for the kodak-solutionthing so didn't pay too much attention :)
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08:22:56 PM | _Jot_ | he probably got the driver from cups, at http://sourceforge.net/projects/cupsdriverkodak/files/
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08:24:08 PM | RobbieF | :) The show was the same length as ever :)
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08:24:13 PM | RobbieF | I think we covered a fair bit!
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08:24:19 PM | RobbieF | I hope it was fun, all considering.
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08:24:36 PM | RobbieF | next week we'll continue where we left off, and hopefully there's no BIG news like Heartbleed to take time.
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08:24:46 PM | RobbieF | But sometimes, it's just too important to not talk about
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08:26:18 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - why cant I get the live player to open in a window by itself like I used to?
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08:26:46 PM | GoodGuy | Today I had to display the browser tab etc
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08:27:00 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, live.cat5.tv/main gave a 404 :)
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08:27:06 PM | RobbieF | GoodGuy--sorry about that... that'd be my oversight. I've been working hard to upgrade the live streams to support more viewers (due to Roku) and in so doing I broke that feature. I'll make sure that's fixed for next week.
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08:27:10 PM | rats_ | RobbieF: the show was good, you and ajamison5579 worked well together Good Job
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08:27:23 PM | rats_ | and TY
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08:27:35 PM | RobbieF | cheers, glad you enjoyed yourself.
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08:27:40 PM | ajamison5579 | rats_ what I had nothing to do with the show lol
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08:27:40 PM | RobbieF | I just LOVE the time we have every Tuesday night.
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08:27:43 PM | GoodGuy | I usually place the video window in the upper right of the IRC
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08:27:57 PM | GoodGuy | Cool thanks RobbieF
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08:28:17 PM | RobbieF | We'll call it growing pains, k GoodGuy? I'll make sure you're set for next week
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08:28:24 PM | RobbieF | you'll get there through live.cat5.tv though, even still.
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08:28:30 PM | RobbieF | the old links will no longer work
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08:28:31 PM | GoodGuy | understood :-)
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08:28:43 PM | rats_ | sry
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08:29:01 PM | RobbieF | To be fair, I think ajamison5579 and I get along great! :)
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08:29:15 PM | GoodGuy | I saw a couple folks mention the Roku was buffering off and on.... happened to me
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08:29:24 PM | GoodGuy | phone
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08:29:51 PM | ajamison5579 | lol its ok rats_
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08:30:23 PM | RobbieF | Yes, 3 times the roku stream got overloaded.
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08:30:32 PM | RobbieF | that's when you saw me looking up and tapping the screen.
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08:31:05 PM | rats_ | RobbieF: is there a reason you didn't mention KDE 4._ last week
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08:31:17 PM | RobbieF | Was the picture a) notably better tonight, b) the same as recent episodes or c) notably worse?
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08:31:29 PM | _Jot_ | it seemed worse on the livestream
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08:31:31 PM | _Jot_ | more grainy
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08:32:12 PM | RobbieF | rats_ only because none of the distros we were looking at ran it... I could only install so many, so I went with a) the biggest and b) the ones I like.
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08:32:26 PM | RobbieF | it was entirely a "that's not the point, so it doesn't matter" thing.
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08:32:34 PM | ajamison5579 | that and your not a big KDE 4 fan are you Robbief
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08:32:37 PM | RobbieF | My point was to try as many as you like, until you find the one that's right for you.
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08:32:46 PM | RobbieF | It's entirely true, I'm a Gnome 2 baby.
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08:32:52 PM | RobbieF | but I didn't specifically omit KDE 4
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08:33:01 PM | RobbieF | I just didn't have a distro that I wanted to show which had it.
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08:33:09 PM | RobbieF | and I was all Deb based for the main ones.
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08:33:16 PM | RobbieF | so Fedora was not one I was going to get into
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08:33:25 PM | _Jot_ | youtube won't let me watch back so that worse is just what I remember, but it didn't look bad, just slightly I guess
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08:33:33 PM | RobbieF | because then it'd be too easy to become yum vs. apt... and that wasn't the point of the segment.
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08:33:44 PM | RobbieF | I would be happy to do more Linux features on future shows, demonstrating other distros
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08:34:12 PM | RobbieF | slightly worse, Jot?
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08:34:37 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, felt like there was a bit less colour
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08:34:44 PM | RobbieF | hmm
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08:34:45 PM | RobbieF | k
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08:34:47 PM | _Jot_ | not as vibrant
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08:35:19 PM | _Jot_ | if I go to http://live.cat5.tv/ then the ecoalkalines looks fine, but the text below that looks a bit off like that
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08:35:27 PM | _Jot_ | I mean the white stuff
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08:36:38 PM | rats_ | Again Thanks and good nite
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08:36:41 PM | _Jot_ | thats of course just 480p, but that is what youtube broadcasts, so I guess that matters :)
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08:36:52 PM | rats_ | Godd Nite All
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08:36:58 PM | RobbieF | night rats_
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08:36:59 PM | _Jot_ | night rats_
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08:37:00 PM | RobbieF | great seeing you again
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08:37:24 PM | RobbieF | _Jot_ sorry; I don't mean the feed... I mean the camera.
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08:37:40 PM | RobbieF | I used one of the Logitech webcams tonight as our A roll
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08:38:10 PM | _Jot_ | usually they do fine :)
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08:38:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Anyone know where i can buy a laptop with linux on it or atleast a bare HD
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08:39:12 PM | RobbieF | dk how new?
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08:39:20 PM | RobbieF | there is a lot of ewaste right now due to xp
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08:39:51 PM | RobbieF | and by e-waste, I mean good working laptops that have xp on them just waiting to be re-formatted, but the user replaced them with win 7 or 8
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08:40:42 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am ok with older but i got the money to spend on new also
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08:41:21 PM | _Jot_ | I guess the question is what you plan to do with it, so you know wether you need new or old
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08:41:26 PM | RobbieF | I wonder if you could find a computer shop that does e-waste...
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08:41:52 PM | RobbieF | like, if someone walked in my shop's door and said "Do you have any e-waste laptops that still work that you'd sell me for a Linux install", we'd probably have something.
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08:42:14 PM | RobbieF | because we do e-recycling, and people come in to buy a windows 7 laptop and we recycle their old one
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08:42:21 PM | RobbieF | we hold it for 30 days first ,and then recycle
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08:42:41 PM | RobbieF | and by recycle, it may mean we put linux on it and give it to a family member :)
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08:42:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i will look into that
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08:42:51 PM | RobbieF | it's worth checking, I think.
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08:42:58 PM | RobbieF | we've had some decent enough ones go through
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08:43:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | my dell e1505 laptop will no longer boot
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08:43:22 PM | _Jot_ | the RobbieF e-waste recovery service :)
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08:43:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | wont even power on
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08:43:33 PM | RobbieF | but realistically, if you have money, I'd buy a really nice Asus laptop regardless of the Windows license included with it, and just wipe it.
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08:43:40 PM | RobbieF | psu?
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08:43:41 PM | RobbieF | battery?
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08:43:47 PM | RobbieF | did you remove the battery and hold the power button?
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08:44:01 PM | RobbieF | (with power unplugged)
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08:44:07 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yep
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08:44:16 PM | RobbieF | too bad
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08:44:20 PM | RobbieF | mobo issue most likely
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08:44:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | new battery about a month old
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08:44:24 PM | RobbieF | not likely worth fixing
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08:44:29 PM | RobbieF | ouch
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08:45:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i was thinking mobo. it has been working slow for about a week and very hard to turn on from a complete shutdown
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08:45:28 PM | RobbieF | hdd then?
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08:45:29 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i would have to attempt to reboot 4 or 5 times
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08:45:33 PM | RobbieF | was it running hot?
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08:45:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | yes
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08:45:44 PM | RobbieF | maybe the cooling system then...
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08:45:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | but would it boot with no HD
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08:45:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | and say no op sysytem
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08:45:59 PM | RobbieF | no POST?
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08:46:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no post
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08:46:05 PM | RobbieF | does it POST?
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08:46:07 PM | RobbieF | no?
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08:46:37 PM | RobbieF | Chances are good then that the cooling system failed and overheated and burnt out the CPU
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08:47:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | numlock scroll lock and capos lock stay on for about 3 secs. then all power off with no boot
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08:47:33 PM | RobbieF | any beep code?
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08:47:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | that is what i am thinking, when should the cpu fan start
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08:47:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no beep
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08:48:10 PM | _Jot_ | fan starts automaticly immediatly, it is stopped if not required later
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08:48:22 PM | Dennis_Kelley | no fan at all
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08:48:37 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i do see a led on main board light up
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08:48:44 PM | _Jot_ | most likely the fan is burned out, and the processor shuts down to protect itsself
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08:49:00 PM | _Jot_ | but could be a lot of things
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08:49:13 PM | RobbieF | yeah but not posting means it probably already burnt out the cpu
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08:49:28 PM | _Jot_ | nah, then the lights wouldn't even go on
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08:49:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i powered the fan with a battery and it spun. is there a thermal device on the fan usually
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08:49:39 PM | RobbieF | memory then
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08:50:31 PM | _Jot_ | this is starting to be the longest episode of category5.tv ever, its still going on :)
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08:50:49 PM | RobbieF | :)
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08:51:08 PM | _Jot_ | of course it has the same screen for a while now, so maybe its just burned in :)
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08:51:40 PM | _Jot_ | almost 160 minutes :)
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08:52:16 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I don;t know. i guess it lived its time. i got it from my mom and put linux on it. been working good for awhile now. maybe its just time
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08:52:59 PM | _Jot_ | I'd try to find the service manual for it, and see what that says
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09:02:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Ok I guess that i will do some shopping! thanks for the advise. catch ya all next week
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09:24:56 PM | RobbieF | :P
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