Chat Logs for Episode 356 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 120 Posts:Tennessee_Frank
With 67 Posts:_Jot_
With 61 Posts:thezenguy
With 54 Posts:jlim
With 39 Posts:GoodGuy


Chat Logs:

06:58:09 PMTennessee_Frank Crazy how you could miss such a big target, LOL
06:58:12 PMthezenguy Like Ubuntu, but Manjaro is good - if you want to update entire OS every week!
06:58:13 PMRobbieF hi folks!
06:58:27 PMTennessee_Frank Hey RobbieF
06:58:46 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, cool glasses, and nice to see you again :P
06:58:47 PMDJQuad Hey Robbie
06:58:49 PMTennessee_Frank thezenguy, I just moved from Manjaro to Antergos about a week ago.
06:59:07 PMTennessee_Frank I like both but Antergos is just a bit more "Arch".
06:59:14 PMWhiskey_Zero RobbieF Hi there
06:59:23 PMEricKidd Hiya Jot and everyone else out there
06:59:23 PMRobbieF Heya!
06:59:30 PMGWG Hi, RobbieF
06:59:34 PMGWG HI, EricKidd
06:59:37 PMthezenguy 14.04 working good though, and i'm tired of distro hoppin :-p
06:59:38 PMTennessee_Frank Hey EricKidd
06:59:48 PMalbertr Hi all
06:59:50 PM_Jot_ RobbieF seems like a useless box, he can only say hello in various forms :)
07:00:03 PMGoodGuy hi albertr
07:00:04 PMkeckeckec Hi EricKidd. Long time
07:00:28 PMthezenguy Alarm for show just popped up on Ubuntu...
07:00:42 PMjlim whays up guys?
07:00:45 PMdave26 robbief you look great in that tape suit
07:01:05 PMTennessee_Frank What the heck happened to your beard EricKidd
07:01:16 PM_Jot_ hey jlim
07:01:21 PMTennessee_Frank =-O
07:01:22 PMjlim RobbieF: hey! \o
07:01:28 PMRobbieF hey jlim!
07:01:34 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, summer happened I bet!
07:01:40 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: \o
07:01:54 PMTennessee_Frank LOL, I'm going to try to let mine grow out a bit but it's real patchy
07:02:09 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy jlim
07:02:32 PMTennessee_Frank Who???
07:02:46 PMBobK54 NICE.
07:02:53 PMoldsalt hello everyone
07:02:55 PMTennessee_Frank Kids pee in those things
07:02:59 PM_Jot_ hi oldsalt
07:03:03 PMTennessee_Frank Hey oldsalt, how's it going pard
07:03:05 PMkeckeckec Hi oldsalt
07:03:15 PMjlim _Jot_: \o
07:03:40 PM_Jot_ in case I forgot somebody, hi to everybody I didn't say hello to yet today :)
07:03:57 PMTennessee_Frank Same here, Howdy to everyone in chat.
07:03:59 PMoldsalt Going good Tennessee_Frank
07:04:10 PMGoodGuy Hello Tennessee_Frank
07:04:31 PMTennessee_Frank oldsalt, I moved to Antergos this week. Manjaro was nice and I really liked it but Antergos is just a bit more Arch
07:04:33 PMthezenguy i wonder if you already have good hearing, can you use that belltone hearing aid to spy across the room...
07:04:34 PMjlim oldsalt: \o
07:04:36 PM_Jot_ here is a clicky link for that link: http://cat5.tv/studio so you don't even have to click. And don't forget http://cat5.tv/c and http://shop.category5.tv
07:04:51 PMkyoshininja Hi all
07:04:56 PMTennessee_Frank hey kyoshininja, how ya' doing pard. Good I hope
07:04:57 PM_Jot_ hi kyoshininja
07:04:59 PMGuest_1421 oh jot what was that 2nd link you sent?
07:05:03 PMoldsalt Don't know how long I'll be on tonight, we're having a t-storm
07:05:08 PMjlim kyoshininja: \o
07:05:18 PMABQTKY Hey, TN Frank, nice Manjaro review at Distrowatch! (hint: the reviewer liked it)
07:05:18 PMkyoshininja Good, nice to be back Tennessee_Frank.
07:05:21 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, you need to take the Antergos challgen sometime there pard.
07:05:38 PM_Jot_ Guest_1421, http://askubuntu.com/questions/386467/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found-in-ubuntu-13-10
07:05:44 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, I think you'd love pacman and the AUR once you got into it.
07:05:50 PMoldsalt Hello Eric, like your specs
07:05:56 PM_Jot_ Guest_1421, did you mean that one?
07:06:01 PMthezenguy shsshs noice, i thought a python snuck up on me.
07:06:02 PMGoodGuy $40,000 tea maker in the new studio as well ?
07:06:10 PMthezenguy i mean noise...
07:06:10 PMGuest_7578 hello all
07:06:13 PMTennessee_Frank EricKidd, you just don't look "right" without the beard. :-/
07:06:19 PM_Jot_ if you mean http://cat5.tv/c that's the link to the donation-page :)
07:06:23 PMGuest_1421 cheers Jot my browser crashed..
07:06:23 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: I liked Antergos when I tried it (three times) but it broke each time (after some weeks due to updates).
07:06:58 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, it's been doing ok for me so far(crosses fingers) and even the bluetooth worked this time, go figure.
07:07:01 PMthezenguy 14.04 rock solid for now, only 3 gb old notebook.
07:07:25 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: I didn't go back since I haven't learned sufficiently how to rescue Arch based systems. But I'm working on it.
07:07:26 PMTennessee_Frank bet a or beata
07:07:40 PMTennessee_Frank Kilo
07:07:45 PMTennessee_Frank Klick
07:07:54 PM_Jot_ Robbief, 'mobile' like you said it, is how we say it here :P so yes, that is the correct pronounciation :P
07:08:01 PMTennessee_Frank Just call it a Klick
07:08:02 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: if I develop better Arch fu, I may just go with Arch rather than Antergos.
07:08:31 PM_Jot_ EricKidd, yes, everybody missed you :)
07:08:37 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, I got that Handbook for Arch but still didn't understand how to install it.
07:08:50 PMTennessee_Frank Data instead of Dayta
07:09:09 PMDJQuad just ask Robbie how he pronounces beta :D
07:09:27 PMkyoshininja Tennesse_Frank: I installed on an old machine, and most recently followed Arch wiki for install into VirtualBox. That went smoothly.
07:09:57 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, from what I gather Antergos is basically pre-configured Arch
07:10:09 PMjlim context
07:10:20 PMCliff_H Erick's look with out the beard looks like a good photoshop of him.... LOL
07:10:22 PMkyoshininja Tennesse_Frank: making a move away from Manjaro? I heard that there was some developer team drama.
07:10:23 PMTennessee_Frank Data is on Star Trek and Data(i,e. Dayta) is what you transfer over your wifi
07:10:40 PMTennessee_Frank You say tommato and I say "mater
07:10:50 PM_Jot_ nah, you say potato
07:10:54 PMTennessee_Frank You say potato and I say 'tater
07:10:56 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:11:05 PMkyoshininja lol
07:11:07 PMsr_wences Sr_wences is back after a spring of Tuesday lacrosse practices.
07:11:18 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/hearing for if you don't want to type
07:12:05 PMjlim sorry don't know anybody who needs a hearing aid
07:12:14 PM_Jot_ what?
07:12:18 PMTennessee_Frank Supprisingly for how much loud music I've listened too and played I still have really great hearing.
07:12:21 PMABQTKY Sr Wences, so rright?
07:12:22 PMsr_wences I'm starting to need one for my left year. I have to sign up!
07:12:39 PMsr_wences S'OK
07:12:51 PMMrNaturopathy Thanks Robbie, Same here
07:12:55 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy, Howdy
07:13:07 PMkyoshininja Hi RobbieF, EricKidd!
07:13:30 PMsr_wences Tine to cook dinner... laptop in the kitchen!
07:13:36 PM_Jot_ oh nice, somebody came in the chatroom with this question, I'm interested to see if I gave the same answer :)
07:13:56 PMABQTKY Sr Wences - that ain't how you say that! I remember the original Sr. Wences on the Ed Sullivan show! Hrrmph!
07:14:30 PMGoodGuy iirc Highpoint makes a USB 3.0 card with four controllers on the single card
07:14:40 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:14:42 PMjlim lol
07:14:51 PMkyoshininja lol
07:14:53 PMTennessee_Frank You just can't win with that thing
07:15:17 PMthezenguy remember the snake that jumps out the can, put one in the box.
07:15:20 PMsr_wences S'awright!
07:15:21 PMjlim i need to get a useless box
07:15:30 PM_Jot_ you can build them yourself, if you're handy :)
07:16:01 PMTennessee_Frank If the women don't find ya' hansome at least let em' find ya' handy.
07:16:16 PMABQTKY Sr Wences - okay, that's better. I'll stop pestering now. 8-)
07:16:18 PMTennessee_Frank We're all in this together, I'm pullin' for ya'
07:17:06 PMTennessee_Frank Boo, Hiss, Windows 98
07:17:29 PM_Jot_ yeah, newfangled technology! Windows 3.0 works fine! why use something else?
07:17:35 PMsr_wences QUESTION: Robbie, Today the Raspberry Pi foudnation released a new upgraded unit. Have you tried a RPi with linux on it? What do you think of the Pi in general? Thanks in advance.
07:17:42 PMsr_wences Long live DOS!
07:17:46 PMthezenguy One advantage Windows with software to hardware interface, it's in realtime.
07:18:08 PMTennessee_Frank I wasted 3 of the best years of my life messing with Windows 98
07:18:39 PMTennessee_Frank Maybe 4, can't remember that far back,
07:18:49 PMCliff_H I got rid of '98 as soon as I could.
07:18:53 PMalbertr what about streaming from Linux?
07:19:19 PMTennessee_Frank Ditto, I bought an iMac in 2001 and didn't look back for over 11 years. Thing just ran and ran and ran.
07:19:44 PMTennessee_Frank popey, you're up late pard. Howdy
07:19:51 PM_Jot_ albertr, at the moment there are some programs that claim to be able to use linux for streaming, but when RobbieF started, only wirecast was available (on windows) and good, so he used that
07:20:45 PMTennessee_Frank No beard to catch all the pollen
07:20:47 PMalbertr Ok
07:21:02 PMTennessee_Frank Like Mt. Kilimanjaro
07:21:07 PMjlim lol
07:21:08 PMthezenguy Don't know but Kilimanjaro?
07:21:09 PMTennessee_Frank the J is actually a J
07:21:16 PMjlim hahahahahahahahaha
07:21:22 PMjlim man jaro
07:21:24 PMTennessee_Frank Not a spanish H
07:21:27 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, Manjaro is pronounced as in Kilimanjaro the mountain. See http://manjaro.org/2012/10/15/how-to-pronounce-manjaro/
07:21:31 PMMrNaturopathy Robbie would you consider using Linux exclusive in Studio D?
07:21:44 PMTennessee_Frank WooHoo
07:21:49 PMTennessee_Frank boohissssss
07:21:54 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:22:01 PMTennessee_Frank Ya' just don't look right
07:22:05 PM_Jot_ sorry Tennessee_Frank, I guess it was the link that got it
07:22:23 PMTennessee_Frank Young, LOL, 53, not all that young.
07:22:37 PMTennessee_Frank Ditto to _Jot+
07:22:37 PMthezenguy Yes, the guy in the tutorials pronounces Manjaro wrong.
07:22:41 PMABQTKY Ass the Chech Nuns used to say, 'OS/2 Varp.' (on an old OS/2 TV commercial)
07:22:42 PMjlim lol
07:22:55 PMjlim hahahaaha
07:22:58 PMABQTKY Woop, that was keybounce.
07:22:59 PMGuest_7578 not in ca
07:23:00 PMTennessee_Frank Xfce, LOL Desktop enviroment
07:23:05 PMkyoshininja ABQTKY: lol
07:23:12 PMjlim man jar o
07:23:21 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, I got that dog whipped. Moved on to Antergos now, LOL
07:23:24 PM_Jot_ I have OS/2, and Borland C++ 2.0 for OS/2, so I'm doing fine in that area :)
07:23:27 PMMrNaturopathy Robbie would you use Chrome OS if Google was a Sponsor?
07:23:45 PMkyoshininja _Jot_: nice...
07:23:51 PMDJQuad lol
07:23:55 PMjlim lol
07:24:13 PMthezenguy Manjaro is a rolling distro, updates entire friggin OS almost every week!
07:24:14 PMjlim man jar o
07:24:18 PMkyoshininja RobbieF: Manjaro is a rolling release model.
07:24:20 PMGoodGuy Czech
07:24:20 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF,I thought 3.15 was the latest
07:24:51 PMTennessee_Frank It was crazy. Also, Antergos is running 3.15 and had bluetooth right out of the box
07:24:52 PMGuest_1421 sorted - all workingnow Jot and keckeckec
07:24:56 PMRobbieF I believe so, but in the unstable branch, no?
07:25:01 PM_Jot_ great Guest_1421
07:25:05 PMthezenguy Debian testing Jessie is currently broken. Many bugs.
07:25:07 PMABQTKY Jot, you shouldn't be using Warp, you should be using eComStation...the currently available OEM'ed version.
07:25:11 PMkeckeckec Guest_1421: Woohoo. What did you do?
07:25:15 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, confusing isn't it.
07:25:26 PMRobbieF sure is!
07:25:29 PMRobbieF it's a weird one.
07:25:33 PMjlim majaro has been having serous issues lately
07:25:46 PMTennessee_Frank Oh no, not _Jot_
07:26:12 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, one of the Devs is suppose to be on LAS this coming show.
07:26:14 PM_Jot_ keckeckec, his ubuntu broke, and he tried to fix it by following the video a few weeks ago about chroot. But that didn't work, because chroot was part of the answer, but not in the way RobbieF was doing it
07:26:42 PMkeckeckec Thanks, _Jot_ I was wondering how he sorted it all
07:26:45 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: cool
07:27:06 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, maybe they'll get some things cleared up.
07:27:13 PM_Jot_ keckeckec, http://askubuntu.com/questions/386467/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found-in-ubuntu-13-10 :P
07:27:15 PMGoodGuy inSSID shows channel usage
07:27:18 PMGuest_1421 sudo fdisk -l -> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -> sudo grub-install /dev/sda --root-directory=/mnt -> reboot and all ok..
07:27:37 PMGuest_1421 so tnx again guys..
07:27:50 PM_Jot_ you're very welcome!
07:27:53 PMkyoshininja Any recent research into good linux laptops? I may be in the market for one once again.
07:28:22 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, have them give SolydX a try.
07:28:27 PMkeckeckec The dreaded UEFI, _Jot_?
07:28:48 PMTennessee_Frank It's Xfce so it's light weight and Debian Testing so it's a bit more Cutting Edge
07:28:57 PMGoodGuy http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=408
07:29:00 PMGuest_1421 what do yea all think of gNewSense? not tried yet.. would like to try tails also..
07:29:01 PMthezenguy kyoshininja system76 https://system76.com/
07:29:01 PM_Jot_ keckeckec, not sure what he did to break it, but that was the error, so I googled that, and that was one ofthe links that came out
07:29:14 PMGoodGuy good page on how to reinstall Grub2
07:29:24 PMGoodGuy just used it a couple days ago
07:29:28 PMkeckeckec Thanks, _Jot_. Great that it's working now.
07:29:30 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, there's a Broadcom wifi card that can give you fits with getting the wifi up and running.
07:29:36 PMMrNaturopathy Ill make it easy use elementary or peppermint is you want a light distro ...
07:29:48 PMtic-toc try a 12.04 distro like elementary
07:29:57 PMkyoshininja Thanks thezenguy, I was looking at system76, and zareason, but for all the positives, there are complaints as well.
07:30:19 PMGuest_1421 i had lutbuntu/ubuntu/zorin installed used gpart and wipde lubuntu and zorin - rebooted the the trouble began
07:30:28 PMthezenguy I would not want the one with number pad, but they have ones without.
07:30:42 PMGoodGuy Tails gets you on the NSA watch forever list... seriously
07:31:10 PMGoodGuy Linux Journal readers, TOR searches etc
07:31:29 PMjlim he looks like he might have a coild
07:31:31 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: found that there may be a source of the system76 machines for less (oem mfr named Clevo) which also makes sager systems
07:31:32 PMjlim cold
07:31:40 PMLeland_ Try Deepin 2014
07:31:45 PM_Jot_ Guest_1421, the screenshots make it look pretty
07:31:46 PM_Jot_ clean
07:31:49 PMDJQuad Rob should give him some Vegimite. i just saw that episode. lol
07:31:51 PMTennessee_Frank EricKidd, see, ya' shaved your beard, your face got cold and now you're getting sick.
07:32:06 PMGoodGuy Deepin is a Chinese based distro, isn't it?
07:32:12 PMGuest_1421 gNewSense Jot?
07:32:12 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: lol
07:32:15 PMLeland_ Yes
07:32:34 PMGoodGuy all free software Guest_1421
07:32:42 PM_Jot_ DjQuad, the vegemite is still around I'm sure :)
07:32:48 PMtic-toc I tried tails before - but I'm sure I was on the NSA watch list long before that.
07:32:55 PMGuest_1421 i download tails but havent a notion on how to install only srated using linux 2 weeks ago
07:33:01 PMthezenguy i bought an S 4, quickly exchanged for iphone 5s.
07:33:15 PMMrNaturopathy Robbie once Studio D is Up will you be doing more than one live show per week?
07:33:18 PMGoodGuy NSA is going to need more hard drive space lol
07:33:20 PM_Jot_ Guest_1421, yes, gNewSense looks pretty clean from the website www.gnewsense.org
07:33:23 PMDJQuad i'm sure it is, they only had 2 bites. lol
07:33:38 PMGarbee oh hi EricKidd !
07:33:47 PMTennessee_Frank Too bad Blackberry isn't doing too well.
07:33:51 PM_Jot_ MrNaturopathy, probaly not, since he has a job and a family etc :)
07:33:55 PMthezenguy gnewsense all free software, wifi won't even work. old junk
07:34:32 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, I'm still using the same ol' flip phone for the last 5 years.
07:34:34 PM_Jot_ DjQuad, I don't know the expiry date on it though, but I wouldn't be suprised if it was the kind of substance that stays good forever :)
07:34:42 PMGuest_1421 just i was reading on the linux . org site only a few truely free versions of linux gNewSense being one of them..
07:34:44 PMjlim <<---never owned an apple product in his life
07:34:53 PMMrNaturopathy Robbie, I think Jot should be given a show on the network
07:34:55 PMGoodGuy same here Tennessee_Frank Nokia 6085
07:34:56 PMtic-toc Snazzy
07:35:12 PM_Jot_ MrNaturopathy, the nerdy video wasn't enough? :)
07:35:14 PMGarbee RobbieF: Worst show ever? Eric is here, they are always the best shows ever.
07:35:19 PMGarbee Take that back right now!
07:35:20 PMTennessee_Frank GoodGuy, mine is a Samsung of somekine,
07:35:20 PMLeland_ Great microphone on Erics sniffle
07:35:42 PMDJQuad i wish all newscasts were like this
07:35:50 PMMrNaturopathy never saw it can you post a link?
07:35:54 PMGoodGuy not a Samsung S5 huh :-)
07:36:03 PMTennessee_Frank NEW Pi, WhooHooo
07:36:13 PMGoodGuy New RaspPi case will be needed
07:36:18 PM_Jot_ MrNaturopathy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGlIxrM4UbE for the nerdy video
07:36:30 PMsr_wences @EricKidd: look up something like JuiceDefender on Google Play. It turns your data connection on and off to check for info rather than have it on all the time. It makes my battery last longer. YMMV.
07:36:41 PMGarbee Say that chipset 5 times fast.
07:36:57 PM_Jot_ Pay good attention, and you'll see me around 1:10 or a bit before that in a green shirt, but my name is on other things too! (and no, I had no idea about it untill I saw the video)
07:37:00 PMpetriko hi all
07:37:09 PMGarbee sr_wences: I know of another good way to save battery life. Turn your phone off.
07:37:17 PMTennessee_Frank If they could bump it up to a 1GHz processor and a Gig of RAM they'd really have something
07:37:20 PMGoodGuy 40 pin GPIO header
07:37:23 PMthezenguy soon as att sends me that 5s, i'm done with android and google.
07:37:24 PM_Jot_ Of course you should really buy a roku too, from http;//cat5.tv/roku because there are the special features that have the 'making of' video of Nerdy
07:37:25 PMGarbee If you don't want to do that, then plug it in.
07:37:33 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy petriko
07:37:42 PM_Jot_ http://cat5.tv/roku :P
07:38:35 PMTennessee_Frank Happens all the time. You get something and a week later something better comes along
07:38:40 PMGoodGuy No... I just bought one a couple weeks ago... case fits that model.. + model needs new cases
07:38:47 PMthezenguy Cnet was hacked.
07:39:03 PMDJQuad do rokus coexist well on a tv already with tivo?
07:39:05 PMthezenguy emails and passwords stolen.
07:39:16 PMTennessee_Frank Everyone knows that Tom Baker is the only REAL Dr. Who.
07:39:26 PMGoodGuy sure ... use a diff hdmi port
07:39:30 PMkyoshininja DJQuad: yes, I have tivo/roku devices on every tv.
07:39:33 PMTennessee_Frank At least I think it was Tom Baker, you know the guy with the scarf
07:39:40 PMGuest_1421 Bring Back Baker
07:39:45 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, what doctor are you talking about? If you give us a name, maybe we could tell if we are a fan or not
07:40:03 PMthezenguy i didn't like dr. who when it was free public broadcasting.
07:40:05 PMGarbee RobbieF: Who noes?
07:40:13 PMGuest_1421 exterminate..!!
07:40:14 PMTennessee_Frank I even had an extra long scarf made up to ware I liked Dr. Who so much.
07:40:15 PMjlim lol
07:40:22 PMTennessee_Frank Yep, I was a Geek, still am. LOL
07:40:31 PMkyoshininja DJQuad: each tv i have has discrete boxes (separate boxes not built in functionality into tv)
07:40:35 PMpetriko Sorry dr. Who's not my cup of tea
07:40:56 PMDJQuad does it need a universal remote to change between the smart, tv, and tivo?
07:40:58 PMGarbee petriko: You can leave now.
07:41:08 PMDJQuad smart tv*
07:41:11 PMGarbee Non-whovians are not allowed here. #sarcasm
07:41:14 PMMrNaturopathy Great vid Jot which nerd were you? lol
07:41:14 PMpetriko I can, but I won't ;)
07:41:32 PMRobbieF \o
07:41:36 PMjlim hey i am on ubuntu 12.04 right now
07:41:38 PM_Jot_ hey RobbieF
07:41:41 PMthezenguy Everyone who like Dr. Who leave the chat room now...
07:41:47 PMkyoshininja DJQuad: yes, I have universal remotes (or use smart phone) with older versions of roku. With newer version (radio based remote) I need separate remotes
07:41:58 PMTennessee_Frank jlim , you've not moved to 14.04LTS yet?
07:42:10 PMGuest_7578 ke bunt
07:42:12 PM_Jot_ MrNaturopathy, I'm the one in the green shirt, at around 1:08 or 1:10 or so
07:42:14 PMGuest_1421 14.04 lts
07:42:15 PMGoodGuy use your standard tv remote that changes input ports
07:42:27 PMLeland_ Eric's Mic works so well, I feel like I need a Halls
07:42:31 PMGoodGuy Zorin 9 came out today
07:42:31 PMMrNaturopathy cool nice job
07:42:42 PMBobK54 I've been to Windsor Ontario, it IS sick and demented....in a GOOD way!
07:42:46 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: not yet,,, going to wait for canonical to work out the bugs before i move to 14.04
07:43:01 PMthezenguy I know -> www.ubuntu.com
07:43:01 PMtic-toc passwd
07:43:02 PMTennessee_Frank My bluetooth didn't work with 14.04 in either the stock Unity DE or in GNOME. Also gave Xubuntu 14.04 a try and it didn't work there either.
07:43:06 PMGarbee chroot and reset the passwords.
07:43:23 PM_Jot_ MrNaturopathy, but if that went too fast, I'm also in episode 222, starting at around 53:08
07:43:23 PMGarbee He didn't make himself an admin.
07:43:27 PMGoodGuy What bluetooth devices are you using?
07:43:30 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: prabobly a bug
07:43:44 PMthezenguy su -
07:43:50 PMthezenguy then $visudo
07:43:55 PMGarbee Join in during the week and chat with us dude.
07:43:55 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, I did do some reading up on it and a lot of other folks were having bluetooth issues as well.
07:44:02 PMGuest_1421 BT works on my laptop on 14.04
07:44:09 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:44:09 PMjlim su, sudo or gksu
07:44:28 PMDJQuad i looked into ios apps to control everything. they obviously don't have IR support so i need some extra hardware to convert network to IR commands. i think. heh
07:44:34 PMGarbee The root login is typically randomized.
07:44:37 PMLeland_ New Zorin today......
07:44:39 PMGuest_7578 need to ch permisons on hard drive
07:44:42 PMGarbee Zorin does that as well.
07:44:45 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: bluetooth work great in 12.04
07:44:51 PMGarbee You'd need to have manually changed the root password before in order to do su -
07:45:08 PMjlim sudoers add user
07:45:16 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, I didn't have anything with bluetooth when I ran 12.04 so I couldn't test it
07:45:22 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, that is very wrong! you don't say it like that
07:45:23 PMGarbee jlim: That is assuming you can get root privs, which they can't.
07:45:27 PMDJQuad try sudoers
07:45:29 PMGarbee So sudoers does no good.
07:45:40 PMTennessee_Frank Wor Chester Shire sauce
07:45:50 PMTennessee_Frank The Shire of Worchester
07:45:56 PMLeland_ Zorin 9 released today....
07:46:05 PMTennessee_Frank Not werechestershire, LOL
07:46:09 PMGuest_1421 pronounced glost-ter-sure
07:46:27 PMGarbee Leland_: Yea we get it, new zorin release. No need to repeat it so much.
07:46:36 PMthezenguy My wife is Chemist and has a Masters in English, if I want to know something I ask her.
07:46:39 PMtic-toc Bob's your Uncle
07:46:59 PMjlim i use bluetooth in 12.04 every day and works great... an 12.04 is supported to 2017
07:47:02 PMLeland_ He is not on the chat
07:47:10 PMGuest_7578 buttys your ???
07:47:25 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: i use bluetooth in 12.04 every day and works great... an 12.04 is supported to 2017
07:47:50 PMGarbee Oodoo is a SaaS iirc.
07:47:57 PMDJQuad that was almost as bad as pronouncing linux as linusx. lol
07:48:03 PMGarbee https://www.odoo.com/
07:48:08 PMthezenguy RobbieF does that iphone 5 sync with Ubuntu now?
07:48:17 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: and there are not many differences betwewen 12.04 and 14.04
07:48:20 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, I moved from 12.04 to Linux Mint 15 quite a while ago. Then to Point Linux and then Kali and finally Manjaro and now I'm running Antergos. Yep, I Distro Hop, LOL
07:48:28 PMkyoshininja RobbieF: sorry, didn't know you would read it live....
07:48:50 PMGarbee https://www.odoo.com/page/download
07:48:57 PMGarbee ^^ free version it seems.
07:49:02 PMRobbieF well we tried :) hahha
07:49:23 PMTennessee_Frank Me again,
07:49:28 PMthezenguy Don't get me wrong now, that Manjaro with Xfce is good just a lot of updates.
07:49:30 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: yeah i got debian, arch, crunchbang and on ubuntu on my machines
07:49:56 PMTennessee_Frank Is there a filter or something.
07:50:04 PMTennessee_Frank :-D
07:50:08 PMGoodGuy Tennessee won the worst state to live in.. Michigan only was 6th worst
07:50:21 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: typos
07:50:24 PMjlim lol
07:50:34 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, I have been mutting stuff
07:50:36 PMGoodGuy We have the two most deadly cities in Flint MI and Detroit MI
07:51:04 PMkyoshininja Garbee: yes Odoo is SAAS, but you still can download and install locally (which is what I did).
07:51:10 PMthezenguy The iPhone google voice and hangouts allows dialing, Android still don't have a dialer and it's Googles own product!
07:51:16 PMGoodGuy I want a recount! If we have number one and two, we should be on bottom lol
07:51:20 PMGarbee kyoshininja: Yea, just found that.
07:51:20 PMthezenguy i mean wifi dialing...
07:51:26 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, I get stuff from people that aren't in my Circle or that I'm even following
07:51:47 PMjlim google is bad
07:51:55 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, in your email, or directly on your googlepage-thing?
07:52:07 PMDJQuad youtube / g+ integration was the worst
07:52:09 PMTennessee_Frank _jot_ on the google page.
07:52:14 PMthezenguy Google crazy, almost have to have 2 gmail accounts to be safe for purchases.
07:52:36 PMTennessee_Frank I get Muslim stuff, left wing political stuff, ect. I just don't care to see that stuff.
07:52:51 PMTennessee_Frank Cats and hummingbirds are cool though.LOL
07:53:03 PMjlim delete the ubuntu partition and resize the windows partition
07:53:13 PMoldsalt RobbieF, did you get the package I sent?
07:53:17 PMjlim gparted
07:53:31 PMthezenguy hurry up, i got to pee...
07:53:41 PMGoodGuy TMI :-)
07:53:52 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, I have no idea how that is possible even :) but I sympathize with you. I know portal-things often put in information they might think you are interested in, but no idea what google does, I never go to the pages :)
07:54:24 PMCliff_H @RobbieF Problem is I have 2 ver. on here...
07:54:24 PM_Jot_ thezenguy, of course you can, oh wait, you mean you want to get up and visit the bathroom first
07:54:31 PMTennessee_Frank _jot_ I wonder if it's friends of folks that are in my Circle or something that are getting me those posts.
07:54:49 PMthezenguy Add a cheer box to the show, when you say something the crowd cheers!
07:55:06 PMGoodGuy I reinstall into existing partitions
07:55:14 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, it is possible, I'd check the settings to see if you can control what appears
07:55:15 PMjlim clonezilla
07:55:24 PMjlim that is what i use
07:55:41 PMthezenguy Only back ever worked for me was rsync and tar.
07:55:45 PMCliff_H Thanks... Will do..
07:55:46 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, do you know about Patreon. It's kind of a Crowd Funding deal where folks can pledge a few bucks a month. May be a way to raise a bit of cash for the show.
07:56:03 PMDJQuad clonezilla has saved me many times
07:56:11 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
07:56:21 PM_Jot_ Tenessee_Frank, you can already pledge a few bucks a month! Just go to http://cat5.tv/c and select that you want to make it an enduring thing!
07:56:23 PMkyoshininja Used clonezilla to migrate a physical machine into a virtual machine.
07:56:47 PMTennessee_Frank _Jot_, ahh, ok, thanks.
07:57:06 PMTennessee_Frank Xubuntu 14.04 in other words.
07:58:06 PMpetriko I should make backups more often.
07:58:07 PMTennessee_Frank VERY Technical
07:58:24 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: was setting up your bkps using rsync difficult?
07:58:50 PMTennessee_Frank You can buy a hard drive pretty cheap and get an enclosure for it and make a good back up drive
07:59:18 PMTennessee_Frank I picked up a 500GB HDD for $31 bucks and an enclosure for $10 and have a perfect set up for back up
07:59:20 PMthezenguy dd has destroyed many flash drives.
07:59:25 PMjlim eric sounds bad
07:59:42 PM_Jot_ here is the clickylink: http://www.noobslab.com/
07:59:47 PMjlim i use dd a lot
08:00:13 PMjlim just need to be very caeful with dd
08:00:21 PMjlim careful
08:00:27 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, I'd like to learn dd to make Live USB's but right now under Antergos I have to use SUSE ImageWriter or they won't boot under Antergos.
08:00:29 PMthezenguy noobslab themes break many systems.
08:00:29 PMalbertr Thanks for the show - regards from Iceland :)
08:00:41 PMMrNaturopathy Great Show Robbie and Eric, Nice Work, Thanks...
08:00:46 PMWhiskey_Zero RobbieF Thanks for good show. Good night and hope Eric gets over the sniffles.
08:01:07 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, EricKidd, fun show guys. Thanks
08:01:11 PMDJQuad thanks for the show. have a great night night all
08:01:18 PM_Jot_ you too DjQuad
08:01:26 PMkyoshininja great show...thanks
08:01:28 PMpetriko great show again, at least the part I saw
08:01:33 PMRobbieF thanks all!
08:01:34 PMBobK54 Good show guys! Feel better Eric! Night!!
08:01:52 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/sdb(whatever your device)
08:01:54 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, maybe you can move her over to Manjaro.
08:02:10 PMoldsalt Good show RobbieF and EricKidd
08:02:28 PMoldsalt Night everyone
08:02:29 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, that sounds simple enough. So simple that I'd probably mess something up. LOL
08:02:41 PMMrNaturopathy Good Night Folks, Be Well!
08:03:00 PMpetriko g'night y'all!
08:03:01 PM_Jot_ you too MrNaturopathy
08:03:05 PM_Jot_ night petriko
08:03:08 PMjlim ten very easily by reversing if and of so be careful
08:03:15 PMMrNaturopathy :) Jot
08:03:17 PMthezenguy just saying, dd will trash your flash drives sooner than later.
08:03:23 PMTennessee_Frank ImageWriter actually is really simple to use, even more so then the UNetbootin I was using and works pretty well.
08:03:25 PMthezenguy use unetbootin
08:03:57 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: you can very easily by reversing if and of so be careful
08:04:04 PMTennessee_Frank With UNetbootin under Antergos I get COM32 errors when I try to boot to the Live USB so it doesn't work.
08:04:14 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: why does dd trash the drives, but unetbootin may not?
08:04:40 PMTennessee_Frank There is a work around for it where you install something extra on the Live USB but using SUSE ImageWriter is just so much easier.
08:04:41 PMthezenguy dd doesn't verify, it's a raw dump.
08:05:01 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: i see.
08:05:03 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, whatever works best for you is great :)
08:05:26 PMthezenguy i think even Ubuntu recommends unetbootin now.
08:05:33 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: been using dd to make bootable flashdrives for a year now and have not done anything bad yet
08:05:47 PMTennessee_Frank _Jot_, I like to have a few options, that's why I like to learn a few different Distros, and stuff so I can adapt to about anything.
08:06:12 PMGoodGuy Unetbootin drives won't boot on my BIOS
08:06:13 PMTennessee_Frank jlim, I think as long as you point dd at the right thing you'll be fine.
08:06:16 PMthezenguy Tennessee_Frank me too, but something happened...
08:06:17 PMjlim ten i read it carefully before i push enter
08:06:28 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: very easily by reversing if and of so be careful
08:06:36 PMjlim lol
08:06:39 PMTennessee_Frank GoodGuy, I never had a problem with any other Distro and UNetbootin until I moved to Antergos.
08:06:40 PMjlim sorry
08:06:45 PMGoodGuy I have to use BOOTICE to change to a Windows MBR and then USB drives boot
08:06:46 PM_Jot_ Tenessee_Frank, learning is always good :)
08:06:56 PMjlim Tennessee_Frank: i read it carefully before i push enter
08:07:00 PMthezenguy The problem comes when you want to remove the bootable iso from the drive and reformat.
08:07:15 PMGoodGuy Wonder why a distro would cause that Tennessee_Frank
08:07:21 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: I also had that same experience with Antergos. Had to use dd rather than unetbootin
08:07:47 PMTennessee_Frank One of the things I love about Arch(i.e. Antergos) is watching the package manager build stuff. It's very cool
08:08:18 PMTennessee_Frank GoodGuy, not sure, it's just the way Arch handles stuff I guess.
08:08:27 PMthezenguy I really like Manjaro, but don't like risking all those updates on my main laptop.
08:08:27 PMGoodGuy I use a Windows programm called Easy2Boot.. the author is very responsive if you have questions or problems
08:08:41 PMTennessee_Frank I guess Manjaro was removed enough from it's Arch roots to not have that issue.
08:09:12 PMkyoshininja GoodGuy: I recall reading on Antergos discussion that it was a recognized problem, and they recommend dd
08:09:17 PMTennessee_Frank thezenguy, Manjaro running Stable only gets updates about every 3 or 4 weeks.
08:09:42 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, yep, you probably read the same thing that I did.
08:09:49 PMthezenguy At times, other times it seems like every week. Ran it over a year.
08:09:51 PMGoodGuy Maybe they use a diff version of Syslinux... I think thats what UnetBootin uses
08:10:18 PMthezenguy GoodGuy, yes you need latest unetbootin for Linux or Windows.
08:10:33 PMTennessee_Frank With Antergos I'm getting small updates every day but then that's what I was looking for really. Something that would be totally up to date
08:10:59 PMGoodGuy I have an Abit IP35 Pro mobo and they closed their doors
08:11:04 PMthezenguy Manjaro only a couple weeks behind Arch I think.
08:11:16 PMGoodGuy so I know a BIOS update would never come
08:11:50 PMTennessee_Frank Manjaro Stable is about 3 weeks but you can easily move it to Testing and only be a few days out or go Unstable and basically be the same as Arch Stable
08:11:58 PMthezenguy Then you have the problem with make on arch based systems. Couldn't get make and make install work on it when trying to compile package.
08:12:13 PMthezenguy Was told to use the arch way, oh well.
08:12:30 PMGoodGuy The Easy2Boot author helped give me the idea to install a Win MBR and I was able to boot flash drives finallly
08:12:39 PMGoodGuy Made me a happy camper
08:12:45 PMTennessee_Frank I've noticed in Octopi in Manjaro and now PacmanXG in Antergos that they pretty much handle make and make install for you with cmake.
08:12:49 PMthezenguy Why ./configure && make && make install didn't work, i don't know.
08:13:51 PMthezenguy Over the past week I did learn something about that Windows Daz loader though...
08:14:51 PMTennessee_Frank Oh well, I'm out of here. I'll see ya'll next week. Have a great rest of the week guys. :)
08:15:12 PMGoodGuy Bye Tennessee_Frank ... I better run also
08:15:12 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: which desktop environment version did you install with Antergos...gnome?
08:15:15 PMGoodGuy Night
08:15:19 PMthezenguy You screwed if you try to restore the mbr and startup files from the install iso, disk, or usb. Won't work. Windows does check and will never find it.
08:15:35 PMkyoshininja C-ya Tennessee_Frank
08:15:38 PMTennessee_Frank With Antergos, GNOME, with Manjaro, Xfce and GNOME but I've moved to GNOME
08:15:55 PMkyoshininja have a good night Tennessee_Frank
08:16:03 PMTennessee_Frank C ya'll later.
08:16:06 PMkyoshininja Night GoodGuy
08:16:08 PMthezenguy i can't stand gnome, unless it's fallback like kali.
08:16:49 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: what are you using as DE?
08:17:03 PMthezenguy Unity right now.
08:17:14 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: cool.
08:17:30 PMkyoshininja gotta go...have a good night, all.
08:17:51 PMthezenguy I even tried i3, ok for desktop where all same windows stay open. spent about a day learning it.
08:17:56 PMthezenguy later
08:18:58 PMthezenguy Testing this Smuxi chat, moving over to #ubuntu
08:19:30 PMbayprogrammer I'm using Gnome, I think it's improving overall; i3 is also nice as a minimalist manual tiling wm
08:19:42 PMthezenguy heehee, 1465 users in #ubuntu channel!
08:20:19 PMthezenguy Yes, i3 works good on desktop for admin and monitoring.
08:21:03 PMbayprogrammer It has some advantages for coding as well (being able directionally flip between windows without using the mouse is nice)
08:21:41 PMthezenguy If you have a very high resolution screen, I guess gnome looks ok but on most monitors not so good and on desktop, takes a lot of mouse moving. weird.
08:22:22 PMthezenguy i have hotspot in bottom right corner with unity, swing over and see all open windows.
08:22:55 PMbig by
08:23:26 PMthezenguy I like the fact that I can make everything smaller in Unity too, very easy where Windows only has a few settings like smaller, small, large, etc.
08:33:37 PMGuest_8816 to robbie i haven got any most wifi channel are used and we dont have good wifi and find difficullt to watch roko box as all way buffing
08:35:43 PMGuest_8816 so use a maims adaptar to send wifi to nother room will try diffent type lynics
08:36:16 PM_Jot_ there are directional wifi-antennas, maybe something like that would help
08:36:39 PMGuest_8816 are on chat room robbie f
08:37:59 PM_Jot_ usually after the show he goes and talks a bit with the co-host and sends them on their way before coming back and getting the showfiles published etc, so he'll come back I think :)
08:39:03 PMGuest_8816 have got that but there signal atteration thought wall granit blocks kill wifi dead
08:40:25 PMGuest_8816 use 14db antana the signal is -70 - 80 db above noise 20 feet a way
08:41:12 PM_Jot_ yeah, wifi can be a big problem :)
08:41:27 PMGuest_8816 sill waiting for infinity ? ?
08:42:06 PMGuest_8816 we just in bad area and provide does sod all
08:42:06 PM_Jot_ stargate infinity?
08:42:57 PMGuest_8816 no i meen fiber optic broadand in uk
08:43:58 PM_Jot_ here we have the same issues, I'm in the netherlands, and the cable-providers turned all their modems into public wifi for other customers, so now here I can't use wifi anymore
08:45:22 PMGuest_8816 i live small village in ireland and every one got wifi to find a channel with out any one on is difficult
08:45:54 PM_Jot_ they have the 5Ghz band now too for wifi, it isn't widely used yet, so probably if you had equipment that used that, it would go better
08:47:24 PMGuest_8816 it has hight atteraation then 2400mhz and will not go thought my walls
08:47:47 PM_Jot_ yeah, that can be an issue too :) but it isn't so busy
08:49:16 PMGuest_8816 i have given up on get good wifi and if talk to the provide they are not intrested ony get mony out evey month
08:49:50 PM_Jot_ your ISP provides you with wireless internet?
08:50:02 PM_Jot_ I mean, it's a kind of radio-connection?
08:51:02 PMGuest_8816 bt and there are a monoponly in uk as provide serice for phone system
08:51:18 PM_Jot_ yeah :)
08:51:30 PMGuest_8816 and internet equent in exchange
08:53:36 PMGuest_8816 i got bed now as 0200 in ireland thank a lot jot and i dont think we will ever good internet in this village
08:54:11 PM_Jot_ good night, and yeah, internet is a big issue these days. Let's hope countries like the US and UK and Canada will join the modern internet someday :)
08:55:15 PMbayprogrammer ISPs here are starting to experiment with turning all their customer routers into public wifi spots
08:55:49 PM_Jot_ if you use wifi, make sure to get plenty of cat5/6 cables in your home :)

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