| 06:58:46 PM | albertr | Hey all :)
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| 06:58:46 PM | DJQuad | $100 should have gotten quite a few rolls ;)
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| 06:59:21 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I write it down. Not sure why, but i did
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| 06:59:39 PM | napa_polarbear | hello all
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| 06:59:42 PM | DJQuad | it was either that or mailing a disco ball for the studio
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| 06:59:55 PM | _Jot_ | Harmony 650
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| 07:00:59 PM | oldsalt | Hello everyone
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| 07:01:04 PM | _Jot_ | hi oldsalt
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| 07:01:18 PM | DJQuad | hey oldsalt
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| 07:01:26 PM | Whiskey_Zero | good evening oldsalt
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| 07:01:40 PM | RobbieF | here we go folks!
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| 07:01:53 PM | DJQuad | weeee
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| 07:02:02 PM | _Jot_ | Youtube is there
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| 07:02:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Howdy.
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| 07:02:35 PM | Whiskey_Zero | Roku still waiting
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| 07:02:37 PM | Tennessee_Frank | No Roku feed yet?
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| 07:02:42 PM | _Jot_ | hi Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:02:50 PM | _Jot_ | Whiskey_Zero, refresh your stream, roku has been up for a while
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| 07:03:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ in chat with my D420 tonight. Really lovin' this little laptop.
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| 07:03:14 PM | Whiskey_Zero | Roku is up now
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| 07:03:33 PM | napa_polarbear | me me
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| 07:04:03 PM | GoodGuy | What is a D420?
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| 07:04:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | WOW, that's huge.
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| 07:04:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoogGuy, it's a Dell D420 Notebook computer
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| 07:04:36 PM | GoodGuy | Cool
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| 07:04:43 PM | GoodGuy | Just buy it?
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| 07:04:48 PM | albertr | did she say 8TB ?
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| 07:04:54 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, you got a toupet or smething that you're asking for your hair?
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| 07:04:55 PM | GoodGuy | yes albertr
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| 07:05:04 PM | Songbird | Hi! First time in chat now trying to hook up the live show.
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| 07:05:05 PM | SashaD | That's right folks... 8TB
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| 07:05:08 PM | _Jot_ | Yeah, thats what he said, as far as I know they only ship 5 and 6TB drives and are working on 8TB
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| 07:05:20 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Picked it up on Ebay for $50 bucks and it came with the external optical drive as well. CD-ROM but I have a DVD-RW on order to put into the external enclosure.
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| 07:05:23 PM | GoodGuy | Wonder how reliable a drive that size will be
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| 07:05:41 PM | Dennis_Kelley | be in the show late. just getting my roku setuo
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| 07:05:45 PM | GoodGuy | WQhoa! $50 sounds like a bargain
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| 07:05:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *setup
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| 07:05:59 PM | GoodGuy | Whoa
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| 07:06:17 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, I could understand that for a Server or storage use but for a regular home user, who would ever use that much space?
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| 07:06:18 PM | GoodGuy | I thought 4TB was the max
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| 07:06:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, yep, you have to learn how to Snipe if you want to win on EBay, LOL
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| 07:06:55 PM | _Jot_ | max for what? technology goes forward, and with the current partitions, it goes to 8ZB
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| 07:06:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Then hit a golf ball, ON THE MOON.
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| 07:07:17 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, uber cool pard.
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| 07:07:32 PM | GoodGuy | I know... I used to buy on Ebay, but I purchased mag subscriptions and got ripped off
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| 07:07:55 PM | Songbird | lol I am old and saw that landing. :P
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| 07:07:55 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I was watching it on a black n' white 19" TV in Taylor,MI at the time. 8 years old. LOL
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| 07:08:00 PM | GoodGuy | No way to prevent it, so I stopped using Ebay mostly
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| 07:08:01 PM | DJQuad | i need a few of those drives for movie storage that stream to tvs
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| 07:08:18 PM | napa_polarbear | in southern cali.
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| 07:08:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I just use it to buy tech stuff, never got a magazine through Ebay
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| 07:09:06 PM | GoodGuy | I had bought mags prior and no problems
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| 07:09:30 PM | GoodGuy | They say mags take 9-12 weeks to get the first issue
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| 07:09:45 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Wow, may as well just go buy it at the store.
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| 07:09:53 PM | GoodGuy | By that time, you have no recourse via PayPal
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| 07:10:11 PM | Songbird | Procrastination can be good especially when you avoid a solar flare. :D
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| 07:10:22 PM | _Jot_ | Caulkin gand everything is easy for everybody except RobbieF cause he has nerd hands
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| 07:10:32 PM | Songbird | lol Jot
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| 07:10:51 PM | GoodGuy | Everything is easy when someone else is doing it
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| 07:11:26 PM | GoodGuy | Pro's caulk in a minute or two
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| 07:11:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Paper cuts can kill ya' if you get enough of em'.
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| 07:11:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | ten minutes later, i got the show!
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| 07:11:56 PM | _Jot_ | nah, only one is enough if it goes deep enouh :)
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| 07:12:02 PM | _Jot_ | nice Dennis_Kelley
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| 07:12:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Yep, we get a show this week DK, LOL
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| 07:12:30 PM | Guest_4490 | where is everybody?
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| 07:12:36 PM | _Jot_ | we're all here
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| 07:12:37 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I'm here, where are you?
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| 07:12:43 PM | Guest_4490 | In Boston.
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| 07:12:46 PM | Tennessee_Frank | No matter where you go, there you are.
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| 07:12:59 PM | GoodGuy | Buzz Aldran punched a guy who kept harassing him saying the moon landing was all fake
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| 07:13:00 PM | _Jot_ | weird, I thought I was here, not there
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| 07:13:15 PM | Dennis_Kelley | roku seems better with my new wifi connection
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| 07:13:15 PM | Guest_4490 | Hey... Where's my handle? Sr_wences? I must have messed up hte login.
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| 07:13:22 PM | _Jot_ | For the studio videos, http://cat5.tv/studio
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| 07:13:31 PM | gonzo194 | Where ever you left it, thats where its at.
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| 07:13:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ nope, you're There and not Here.
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| 07:13:33 PM | _Jot_ | SrWences, just type /nick SrWences or whatever you want to use
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| 07:13:38 PM | GoodGuy | The police had no problem since the guy kept trying to block his path
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| 07:13:59 PM | Tennessee_Frank | If you were Here I think I'd know, LOL
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| 07:14:00 PM | Guest_9520 | OK that should work now.
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| 07:14:12 PM | _Jot_ | just type /nick newnickname
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| 07:14:18 PM | _Jot_ | where newnickname is your new nickname
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| 07:14:29 PM | _Jot_ | there oyu go
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| 07:14:30 PM | Songbird | My Daughter bought me the hoodie for my birthday in August and I am waiting to get it. YES
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| 07:14:38 PM | sr_wences | Gotta start cooking...
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| 07:14:46 PM | _Jot_ | Nice Songbird! They told me I'll get mine on or before august 18
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| 07:14:48 PM | ABQTKY | So rrright?
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| 07:15:08 PM | GoodGuy | Tell your daughter no Skittles with the hoodie!
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| 07:15:10 PM | DJQuad | ...but did the paper towels help??
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| 07:15:10 PM | Songbird | I hope I do Jot because my birthday is the 16th. So that sounds good.
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| 07:15:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My OCD is killing me, I want to get a Dell D830 to go with my new to me D420 now. I've got two of my HP/Compaq laptops up for sale but so far no takers.
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| 07:15:31 PM | Songbird | lol GoodGuy
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| 07:15:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | so robbief will look wide!
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| 07:15:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, my wife's mom could use those but I didn't send in a ballet, oh well.
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| 07:15:55 PM | sr_wences | oing to a makerspace meeting tomorrow night. Topic... Raspberry Pi!
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| 07:16:04 PM | GoodGuy | ballot
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| 07:16:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, that too,LOL I need spell check in my chat
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| 07:16:29 PM | _Jot_ | I tried sending in a ballet, but the girls kept escaping out of the box before I could seal it
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| 07:16:37 PM | GoodGuy | that sounds neat sr_wences
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| 07:17:00 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ was it the Russian Ballet, LOL
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| 07:17:02 PM | GoodGuy | I used to have a spell checker for mIRC in past years
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| 07:17:14 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, nah, I couldn't afford those!
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| 07:17:17 PM | GoodGuy | It was quite awhile back
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| 07:17:53 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I hit something and not my chat curser is bigger then it was?
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| 07:18:10 PM | GoodGuy | iirc it spell checked text copied to the clipboard
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| 07:18:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ok, I fixed it, I hit the "Insert" key on my keyboard.
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| 07:18:24 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, maybe you hit the insert key?
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| 07:18:53 PM | GoodGuy | Largest gift in Category5 TV history
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| 07:18:59 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ or maybe I just hit the insert key, not really sure though, :P
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| 07:19:09 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL
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| 07:19:21 PM | _Jot_ | congratulations alpeck! Or should I say CONGRATULATIONS ALPECK!
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| 07:19:27 PM | GoodGuy | Congrats alpeck
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| 07:19:31 PM | Songbird | WTG alpeck!
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| 07:19:32 PM | alpeck | thank you soooo verrrrry much
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| 07:19:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | congrats alpeck
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| 07:19:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Yahhh, Congrats alpeck
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| 07:19:39 PM | keckeckec | Congratulations, alpeck
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| 07:19:46 PM | ABQTKY | Way to go, AlPeck!!
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| 07:19:54 PM | alpeck | oh man i don't believe it
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| 07:19:56 PM | DJQuad | congrats alpeck :)
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| 07:20:03 PM | Whiskey_Zero | thats super alpeck!
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| 07:20:10 PM | ABQTKY | And thanks to Beltone!!!
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| 07:20:13 PM | Songbird | What a great thing to win...wow
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| 07:20:54 PM | _Jot_ | Hearing loss is a big thing! A lot of people suffer from it. Google for example, just read their captions on videos.
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| 07:20:55 PM | albertr | gratulation alpeck
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| 07:21:16 PM | jblake58 | Congrats Alpeck! Well deserved I'm Sure!
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| 07:21:21 PM | napa_polarbear | my freind wayne, ham
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| 07:21:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank | You actually have to add closed caption, I thought you just hit a button on the TV to get it.
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| 07:21:42 PM | napa_polarbear | radio amger
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| 07:22:28 PM | GoodGuy | Our niece is deaf in one ear
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| 07:22:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My brother John's wife is deaf but when I first met her I didn't know because she reads lips so well.
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| 07:23:12 PM | GoodGuy | Have to be careful around a lady who can read lips
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| 07:23:21 PM | Songbird | lol
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| 07:23:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I've learned how to read lips a bit while watching Hockey on TV. I have to know what they're saying when they're yelling at the ref, LOL
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| 07:24:09 PM | GoodGuy | Bet it's no real friendly Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:24:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, nope, it's not, you learn to recoginze a lot of cuss words, LOL
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| 07:24:46 PM | GoodGuy | Our other niece moved to Tennessee
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| 07:24:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Same with watching NFL games
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| 07:25:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, really, what abouts?
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| 07:25:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | where abouts, LOL
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| 07:25:30 PM | GoodGuy | I didn't hear yet.. My wife follows them on Facebook
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| 07:25:51 PM | GoodGuy | They just moved there a week or so ago iirc
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| 07:25:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ahh, ok. It's been really nice weather here lately, she'll love it
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| 07:26:08 PM | DJQuad | i hope beltone can at least give the others some sort of discount
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| 07:26:08 PM | GoodGuy | Sounded like they liked it so far
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| 07:26:17 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Battery says 36 minuites left so we'll see,
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| 07:26:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_, anyway to get spell check on pidgin IRC
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| 07:26:58 PM | GoodGuy | Can't you plug in the power brick and use wall current also?
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| 07:27:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I could but I really wanted to run it all the way down to break it in. It's a new 6 cell
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| 07:27:46 PM | Tennessee_Frank | weBLOGing
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| 07:27:51 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, try to imagine the blog is like a real person, who is actually paying atention
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| 07:27:54 PM | Anthony012345 | i am back
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| 07:28:05 PM | GoodGuy | Keep your desktop fired up so you don't miss the ending of the show just in case
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| 07:28:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, I talk too much too, LOL
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| 07:28:08 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, I have no idea, you might want to ask RobbieF
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| 07:29:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Alvin was at a camp site???
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| 07:29:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Alvin, Simon and Theodor
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| 07:29:21 PM | alpeck | ooooooch!
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| 07:29:26 PM | Anthony012345 | ouch ... what happened that must of hurt
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| 07:29:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank | The Chipmunks
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| 07:30:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Bob "Crazy" Burns
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| 07:30:15 PM | GoodGuy | It's the Insert key
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| 07:30:20 PM | Anthony012345 | Robbie you are technical but you can't call your self the tech guy. capful leo laport might be watching
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| 07:30:25 PM | keckeckec | SashaD: Undo Undo Undo
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| 07:30:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, I had problems with that just a bit ago, LOL
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| 07:30:35 PM | sr_wences | BLogging is definitely harder than it sounds. I've started one many times.
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| 07:30:36 PM | DJQuad | insert key i believe
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| 07:30:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ funny how that came back up. It's in the upper right,
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| 07:31:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I hit it by mistake earlier tonight.
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| 07:31:05 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, remember it may be different on her laptop, she might have to use an alt or code-key for it
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| 07:31:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Right next to the Delete key,
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| 07:31:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | At least on my D420
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| 07:31:40 PM | DJQuad | it's as frustrating as hitting scroll lock in a spreadsheet. lol
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| 07:31:46 PM | GoodGuy | I think I just bought that same keyboard at a garage sale
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| 07:31:52 PM | GoodGuy | looked new
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| 07:32:00 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I hit the fn and numbers lock key once and though my keyboard went bad, LOL
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| 07:32:09 PM | Tennessee_Frank | blue fn key
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| 07:32:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, look in the upper right of the keyboard
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| 07:32:40 PM | alpeck | fn and num lock really messes you up when you are entering a password
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| 07:32:43 PM | Songbird | lol It's the first time I looked at my insert key.
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| 07:32:45 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, you can also go into the chatroom, and ask people here, usually there's people here happy to help if they can too
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| 07:32:55 PM | Tennessee_Frank | alpeck, Yep, that'd be terrible
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| 07:32:56 PM | albertr | Ctrl+Z
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| 07:33:00 PM | GoodGuy | I have a MS Multimedia keyboard and it has a F-Lock key that changes how the function keys work
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| 07:33:07 PM | alpeck | it happened to me before
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| 07:33:28 PM | napa_polarbear | coffee, only 1 pot
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| 07:33:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, like the new emergency number in "The IT Crowd" ep. that Moss had to memorize, LOL
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| 07:33:51 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, there's not only medicine-ads, but somebody called Jot even posted he liked your blog! Can you believe that? The nerve of some people
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| 07:34:30 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF you the man!
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| 07:34:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL
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| 07:34:49 PM | Songbird | You would have to stay out of puddles with those shoes. lol
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| 07:34:53 PM | GoodGuy | The shoes sound neat
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| 07:35:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | they look life elf shows
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| 07:35:12 PM | Songbird | I need a higher heel on those! :D
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| 07:35:14 PM | Anthony012345 | the shoe looks like a cobbler would ware it? lol
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| 07:35:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | shoes
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| 07:35:41 PM | DJQuad | awesome. now my niece doesnt have to write L and R on her shoes anymore
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| 07:35:49 PM | Songbird | lol
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| 07:35:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, that'd be cool to hack those shoes and mess with people.
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| 07:36:00 PM | Anthony012345 | lol
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| 07:36:13 PM | Songbird | lol Get people tripping over their own feet right?
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| 07:36:17 PM | GoodGuy | It could help the NSA know where you are every second
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| 07:36:30 PM | DJQuad | what's this jogging thing he's referring to?
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| 07:36:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, hook it to Google Glass
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| 07:36:35 PM | _Jot_ | You could wear these in your socks when you sleep and find out if you're sleepwalking or not
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| 07:36:43 PM | Songbird | lol
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| 07:36:48 PM | Anthony012345 | lol
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| 07:36:55 PM | Kalecomm | Ah, the Wizard of Oz reference! Nice!!
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| 07:36:56 PM | keckeckec | We should keep an eye on SashaD's blog and give comments, so it feels more like a conversation
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| 07:36:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, tap your heals three times and it'll take you to your Home Page, LOL
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| 07:37:09 PM | Songbird | LOL Sasha
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| 07:37:19 PM | GoodGuy | If you are a cab driver, you probably could not afford the shoes
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| 07:37:20 PM | keckeckec | Better turn it off when you're dancing
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| 07:37:22 PM | DJQuad | tapping heels would queue up wizard of oz
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| 07:37:37 PM | Kalecomm | I like the way you think, DJQuad!
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| 07:37:47 PM | _Jot_ | just don't pay attention to the person behind the web
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| 07:37:54 PM | GoodGuy | I liked the gadget that was supposedly a lie detector
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| 07:38:04 PM | DJQuad | lol. it's twisted in there ;)
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| 07:39:05 PM | Kalecomm | 8TB HDD!! SWEET!!
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| 07:39:25 PM | keckeckec | What's the error rate on an 8GB drive? MTBF?
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| 07:39:30 PM | GoodGuy | How many bits you can store per inch
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| 07:39:34 PM | alpeck | Helium. How do they contain it because the helium particle is so small.
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| 07:39:51 PM | Kalecomm | I would imagine it would be at least 100,000Hrs.
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| 07:39:57 PM | Songbird | I have 100's of LP's. lol
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| 07:40:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | The "bits" are smaller so they can put more of em' on the platter.
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| 07:40:39 PM | GoodGuy | Another 8TB hard drive(s)
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| 07:40:45 PM | Apollo_17 | Sasha is so smart
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| 07:40:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | May lose battery power so if I disapear ya'll will know what happened.
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| 07:41:07 PM | albertr | you buy 2 8TB ;^)
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| 07:41:14 PM | Kalecomm | 10-4, Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:41:23 PM | DJQuad | they're testing it more because early tests showed that it spun so fast it flew out and decapated people
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| 07:41:42 PM | alpeck | I remember having a 30MB hard drive at work years ago and it weight about 3lbs per MB
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| 07:41:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Guess this is one thing that Obama can't say is "Too Big To Fail", LOL
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| 07:41:54 PM | Songbird | I have 2TB and can't figure out where to back it up at. lol
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| 07:42:05 PM | alpeck | made a great space heater
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| 07:42:11 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Tennessee_Frank so if you poof away we will know!
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| 07:42:14 PM | Tennessee_Frank | It's just getting crazy, I mean how big do you really need.
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| 07:42:21 PM | GoodGuy | I have a 2TB I haven't opened yet
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| 07:42:22 PM | DJQuad | i remember when 200MB tape drives were king. heh
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| 07:42:26 PM | Kalecomm | I'm in the process of creating a RAID 5 (3 drives) array with three 2TB drives.
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| 07:42:42 PM | _Jot_ | I use unraid, and backups. Wanting two unraid arrays so I have double security and backups too
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| 07:42:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My first computer had a big for the time HDD, it was 20GB.
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| 07:43:05 PM | _Jot_ | raid is not save with bug drives, even 2TB can take a day to recover if a drive fails
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| 07:43:12 PM | Songbird | Oh how do they get fried. yikes
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| 07:43:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I only need 6GB or so for my Linux install so really, anything more is wasted space IMHO
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| 07:43:47 PM | GoodGuy | Multiple Linux installs Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:43:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I just like Pie, LOL
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| 07:44:05 PM | ABQTKY | We can top that! My first hard disk cost 230 dollars...plus tax - 20 megabytes!
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| 07:44:11 PM | GoodGuy | I have four distros on this this plus two Windows
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| 07:44:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I've done all the Distro Hopping that I'm going to do. I've settled on Antergos/GNOME.
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| 07:44:36 PM | Kalecomm | I've seen them get damaged, too. If they do, install photorec on Linux and use it to get data off of it. Of course, you have to be able to at least access the flash media for this to work.
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| 07:44:48 PM | Songbird | I do not like Monopoly either. ugh
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| 07:44:53 PM | GoodGuy | Not counting severl Puppy Linux in the WinXP partition.. 4-5 more
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| 07:44:55 PM | Dennis_Kelley | thanks Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:45:14 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Key Lime, Turtle, Coconut cream
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| 07:45:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Carman
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| 07:45:19 PM | GoodGuy | It was Manjaro last week :-)
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| 07:45:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank | You're welcome folks
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| 07:45:27 PM | Kalecomm | I'm using Kubuntu Linux 14.04 amd64. ;)
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| 07:45:32 PM | napa_polarbear | cow
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| 07:45:34 PM | Anthony012345 | have you guys every interview the Barrie Amature radio club. or the York regio amateur radio club?
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| 07:45:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Is it plugged in
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| 07:45:49 PM | Apollo_17 | Ya IT crowd !
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| 07:45:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I love that show
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| 07:46:28 PM | Apollo_17 | My Son an I love it.
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| 07:47:00 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Brute Force the password.
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| 07:47:22 PM | GoodGuy | Attack Vector
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| 07:47:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Had to get my wife to bring my A/C adapter in so I could plug in.
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| 07:48:14 PM | _Jot_ | we don't have to guess, we already know her password is 1234, because thats what RobbieF uses and its the same as on the luggage, so easy to remember
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| 07:48:19 PM | Dennis_Kelley | you are cool Tennessee_Frank
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| 07:48:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | It was kind of cool here DK, LOL
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| 07:49:09 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its is the high 60's in Michigan
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| 07:49:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | We've had really cool weather here in Tennessee this summer. Of course now I've jinked it so we'll have a heat wave, LOL
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| 07:49:14 PM | Dennis_Kelley | already fall
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| 07:49:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Yep, it's 74 here right now, very nice day.
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| 07:49:29 PM | SashaD | Don't hack my blog!!!
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| 07:49:45 PM | Apollo_17 | LOL !
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| 07:49:46 PM | Songbird | It was 48 degrees last night in Michigan which is too cold for Summer. brrr
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| 07:50:09 PM | Songbird | I would not know how to hack your account. lol
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| 07:50:13 PM | DJQuad | i find that using a captcha plugin is also very important
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| 07:50:24 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i just trans planted some flowers, i hope they take
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| 07:50:43 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Did you water them a bit after you moved them DK?
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| 07:51:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | for sure
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| 07:51:10 PM | albertr | this what I use so I only can go to admin from home
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| 07:51:12 PM | albertr | DocumentRoot /var/www/html/wordpress DirectoryIndex index.php index.html Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 192.168.113.0/255.255.255.0
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| 07:51:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | So it looks like I'll get just a bit over 2 hours out of this 6 cell battery.
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| 07:51:48 PM | DJQuad | if you enable comments, your wp-login is easily visible anyway
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| 07:52:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I love Spam and Eggs.
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| 07:52:33 PM | Anthony012345 | Tennessee_Frank how do you cook you spam?
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| 07:52:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I fry it in a pan.
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| 07:52:44 PM | Songbird | I love green eggs and ham better. :D
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| 07:52:49 PM | DJQuad | that's smart albertr. believe me i'm a plugin developer :)
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| 07:52:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | We have a nice order of Spam with a side of spam on spam, and for desert we spam spam and more spma
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| 07:53:03 PM | Kalecomm | SPAM = Spoiled Parts of Anonymous Meat.
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| 07:53:03 PM | Anthony012345 | ive made green eggs and ham and the kids had a blast
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| 07:53:21 PM | Songbird | That is cool Anthony!
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| 07:53:21 PM | _Jot_ | You can't use potato! It ugenerates too much energy! Haven't you played portal 2?
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| 07:53:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Spam Spam Spam Spam wonder spam glorious spam!
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| 07:53:59 PM | GoodGuy | lol Kalecomm
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| 07:54:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Good to see I'm not the only Monty Python fan in the room DK
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| 07:54:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | thanks Tennessee_Frank i was wondering that know one caught my referance
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| 07:54:35 PM | Songbird | It's only a flesh wound! :D
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| 07:54:37 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Or for those of us in the South, 'Tater.
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| 07:54:46 PM | GoodGuy | Easy to do, Hard to know it existed
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| 07:54:52 PM | Dennis_Kelley | its hard to sing the song just by typing
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| 07:54:55 PM | Apollo_17 | OK, thats cool.
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| 07:55:40 PM | Kalecomm | I heard that about SPAM years ago on the Tonight Show with Jonny Carson. I'm showing my age, huh. ;)
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| 07:55:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Songbird, that's one of my fav movies.
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| 07:56:07 PM | Songbird | It is just so darn funny Tennessee. lol
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| 07:56:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Especially when they run into the French guys.
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| 07:56:22 PM | GoodGuy | slug is a type of snail isn't it?
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| 07:56:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, yep, without a shell.
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| 07:56:45 PM | Songbird | Getting slugged can hurt. :)
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| 07:56:48 PM | GoodGuy | Even slugs like beer
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| 07:57:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Taking a slug in the chest can kill you.
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| 07:57:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Look at the Bones man! Its got hugh Teeth and muchels
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| 07:57:15 PM | Dennis_Kelley | *muscles
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| 07:57:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | slug like bullet
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| 07:57:50 PM | Songbird | Oh goody it says Firefox 31.0 is available to update. Not now. :P
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| 07:57:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, kind of like when you hide your wifi
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| 07:58:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I have my wifi hidden.
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| 07:58:11 PM | _Jot_ | you must do it now! Or the internet will explode! maybe...
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| 07:58:23 PM | Songbird | lol I love fireworks.
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| 07:58:30 PM | DJQuad | the plugin replaces her name with her id
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| 07:58:31 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, you can't hide it :)
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| 07:58:31 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Songbird i have way to many bits of the Holy Grail in my head!
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| 07:58:38 PM | Kalecomm | My (four) SSIDs are secured by four separate 20 Character random passwords. ;)
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| 07:58:55 PM | Songbird | Me too Dennis. And I think of flying rabbits often too. :D
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| 07:59:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_, I have it so the SSID isn't broadcast so if you look for a wifi connection mine won't show up.
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| 07:59:15 PM | GoodGuy | If you watch HAK5, hiding the SSID does not stop many folks
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| 07:59:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i work at the renaissance festival in michigan, so i can't get away from movie referances
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| 07:59:53 PM | _Jot_ | Tenneessee_Frank, that doesn't hide it, that only makes it not broadcast it all the time
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| 08:00:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I also had my router locked down via mac addresses but it became kind of a hassle what with getting new equipment and all.
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| 08:00:04 PM | Songbird | I have been to that festival Dennis. It was a blast.
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| 08:00:05 PM | Kalecomm | Security by obscurity, Tennessee_Frank. Not a bad idea.
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| 08:00:17 PM | GoodGuy | I would use max length wifi keys except entering on a tablet is a nightmare
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| 08:00:18 PM | _Jot_ | Generally, you can't protect wifi at all, you can only make it take a few minutes to hack at most, instead of seconds
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| 08:00:32 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I work for Crystal Stix - Juggling type toy
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| 08:00:55 PM | GoodGuy | Linux has a command to change your MAC address as you wish
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| 08:01:14 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I'm sure if someone used WireShark they'd pick up the packages I'm sending and they'd find it but to the casual user they won't see it as an option to link to.
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| 08:01:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Tails will let you spoof your mac address
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| 08:01:46 PM | GoodGuy | I don't think breaking WPA2 is a few minute task
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| 08:01:56 PM | GoodGuy | WEP probably is
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| 08:01:58 PM | Kalecomm | True, Tennessee_Frank. If they know how to use wireshark, though, they're probably an advanced user or some kind of developer.
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| 08:02:06 PM | Apollo_17 | Make it 5 not 20
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| 08:02:06 PM | Songbird | lol Sasha
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| 08:02:08 PM | _Jot_ | wpa2 is too these days
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| 08:02:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank | WEP is suppose to be easy but WPA2 can take a while
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| 08:02:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Really, anything can be hacked if you know how to do it.
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| 08:03:05 PM | DJQuad | i'm surprised he didn't cover captcha for the login that commenters use
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| 08:03:19 PM | Songbird | Updraft Plus sounds like something I will need.
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| 08:03:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | That's why we need a longer show.
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| 08:03:43 PM | Apollo_17 | Make the show LONGER !
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| 08:03:44 PM | Anthony012345 | GREAT SHOW GUYS...
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| 08:03:47 PM | albertr | Thanks all for the show ;^)
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| 08:03:49 PM | _Jot_ | I figured I'd better leave a comment on the blog before I was locked out, did it just in time :P
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| 08:03:49 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Songbird are you from MI
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| 08:03:50 PM | Songbird | I usually watch this on Roku...so cool to be on tonight
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| 08:03:55 PM | DJQuad | updraft plus is awesome. worth every penny for the add-ons
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| 08:03:55 PM | Songbird | Yes Dennis
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| 08:03:58 PM | Songbird | Midland
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| 08:04:05 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i am in flint
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| 08:04:08 PM | GoodGuy | SashaD is cheery as can be
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| 08:04:09 PM | SashaD | Thank you for wtching :)
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| 08:04:12 PM | Whiskey_Zero_ | RobbieF and Shasa thanks for another fine program. See you next week.
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| 08:04:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ did you get your viagra add in place as well?
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| 08:04:18 PM | Apollo_17 | Bye Bye !
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| 08:04:23 PM | Songbird | Thanks Sasha and Robbie big hugs
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| 08:04:26 PM | Kalecomm | Thank you, Sasha and Robbie!
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| 08:04:28 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Roku was awesome tonight! Not lag
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| 08:04:28 PM | GoodGuy | I am in Warren
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| 08:04:37 PM | DJQuad | great show as always. see you next week :)
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| 08:04:47 PM | RobbieF | Glad to hear that DK!
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| 08:04:48 PM | SashaD | Big hugs to you all! Songbird, thank you
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| 08:04:49 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone
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| 08:04:52 PM | RobbieF | hope you had fun!!
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| 08:05:00 PM | Apollo_17 | Thanks for the dessert Sasha
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| 08:05:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Great Show guys, thanks.
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| 08:05:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | How is warren these days? i used to live in Clinton Township/Macomb
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| 08:05:04 PM | RobbieF | Hey Apollo_17!
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| 08:05:05 PM | Songbird | So nice to meet you all. I will see you again. Ty Sasha.
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| 08:05:11 PM | Anthony012345 | when i have a chase i will swing by the studios and say hell
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| 08:05:13 PM | Anthony012345 | hello
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| 08:05:17 PM | Apollo_17 | HI ! Buddy!
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| 08:05:20 PM | RobbieF | \o Songbird
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| 08:05:21 PM | GoodGuy | a bit more crime these days
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| 08:05:30 PM | SashaD | Does anyone else have a blog I could read? I would love to get to know everyone a bit better :)
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| 08:05:44 PM | _Jot_ | Anthony012345, no good when you are in a police-chase! They'll just get RobbieFs autograph cause hes famous and then continue to chase you
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| 08:05:51 PM | GoodGuy | Although Flint is the worst city in the USA and Detroit was ranked number two
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| 08:05:56 PM | SashaD | And I would love hints and tips on blogging from those who do it :)
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| 08:05:56 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF i sent a picture to you of me watching the show!
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| 08:06:05 PM | GoodGuy | They'll try harder next time lol
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| 08:06:09 PM | Songbird | My Son is a cop in Detroit. I worry.
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| 08:06:20 PM | _Jot_ | darnit, I was just about finding out secret information and they turned off the microphones!
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| 08:06:20 PM | GoodGuy | I don't blame you
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| 08:06:21 PM | oldsalt | Hey RobbieF
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| 08:06:26 PM | Anthony012345 | Goodnight guys TTYL
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| 08:06:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, nope, no Blog yet. I'm on a couple Linux forums though. Linux Forum.org, Manjaro forums and Antergos forums
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| 08:06:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Hey oldsalt, better late then never.
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| 08:06:58 PM | GoodGuy | Ppl used to make fun of me for driving around Detroit even if it cost extra miles
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| 08:07:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy i am actually in Grand Blanc. Not too close to Flint
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| 08:07:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, those folks never been to Detroit then
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| 08:07:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I lived in Taylor until age 11
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| 08:07:44 PM | GoodGuy | Grand Blanc is nice.. Flint not so much
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| 08:08:07 PM | oldsalt | Hey Tennessee_Frank, how ya been?
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| 08:08:16 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF can i get backstage pass videos on roku
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| 08:08:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | been doing ok oldsalt and you pard?
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| 08:08:27 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, they are!
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| 08:08:30 PM | GoodGuy | Been to Taylor, Flint, Grand Blanc and Midland toting our son around for sports stuff
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| 08:08:35 PM | Dennis_Kelley | _Jot_ yes
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| 08:08:39 PM | oldsalt | Doin' great
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| 08:08:40 PM | Apollo_17 | Hey, Robbie are you sore?
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| 08:08:44 PM | Dennis_Kelley | where
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| 08:08:48 PM | SashaD | Sadly I have to jet off now... but it was so super amazing to be on again, and I look forward to seeing you all next time :)
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| 08:08:53 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, as fr as I know, you should have access to it
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| 08:09:04 PM | GoodGuy | Night SashaD
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| 08:09:05 PM | RobbieF | Hey oldsalt - thanks for the cap :)
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| 08:09:05 PM | Apollo_17 | Bye Sasha
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| 08:09:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | oldsalt, picked up a new to me Dell D420 off of Ebay for $50 bucks. Lovin' it a lot.
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| 08:09:11 PM | _Jot_ | SashaD, don't forget, if you want to talk to us, we're here, and you can write stuff on your blog too, we'll read it
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| 08:09:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | i got it thanks
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| 08:09:25 PM | SashaD | :)
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| 08:09:32 PM | oldsalt | RobbieF your welcome.
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| 08:10:02 PM | oldsalt | Tennessee_Frank, great deal.
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| 08:10:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | SashaD, once you get tired of ZorinOS you need to give Antergos GNOME a try, it really rocks. Arch based, pacman is much easier then apt-get and you get the Arch User Repository(AUR) so there's a ton of software to choose from.
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| 08:10:49 PM | GoodGuy | Midland was a nice city... although someone told us it had a very high youth suicide rate.. but that was years ago
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| 08:10:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | oldsalt, yep, but the only problem is my OCD is wanting a Dell D830 to go with it so I'll have a pair. LOL
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| 08:12:11 PM | oldsalt | Tennessee_Frank, I know what you mean. ;)
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| 08:12:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, I'm bad for being "Brand Loyal" and wanting stuff to match. Not sure why that is, I guess it's just because it just "looks" right or something.
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| 08:12:58 PM | GoodGuy | Is replacing the CMOS battery on an older laptop a difficult job?
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| 08:13:13 PM | _Jot_ | most of the time, yes
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| 08:13:18 PM | GoodGuy | Darn
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| 08:13:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, depends on where it is. Some are by the hard drive and some are on the bottom of the mother board
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| 08:13:48 PM | GoodGuy | I have an old Celeron laptop that sat unused for years
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| 08:14:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | On my NC4400 I had to pull the CMOS battery to clear a power on password and I had to pull the entier laptop apart to get to the underside of the mother board to get to it.
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| 08:14:22 PM | GoodGuy | when I found it buried under junk, the battery was dead
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| 08:14:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've seen em' where they're by the hard drive or under a panel on the bottom and those would be easy.
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| 08:14:43 PM | GoodGuy | I tried charging it for hours but it didnt help
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| 08:15:09 PM | oldsalt | Well, gotta go folks, night. BTW RobbieF Great show as usual.
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| 08:15:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | If the CMOS battery is dead you won't hold settings in the BIOS
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| 08:15:18 PM | Tennessee_Frank | See ya' oldsalt, take care pard.
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| 08:15:26 PM | GoodGuy | It was running Win98 SE, so I have a feeling it won't be a speed demon
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| 08:15:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, you could still probably get some use out of it if you max out the RAM and run the right Linux Distro.
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| 08:16:18 PM | GoodGuy | I believe the CMOS contained the hard drive values in older pcs.. no auto detect back then
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| 08:16:34 PM | _Jot_ | that was with XTs and early ATs
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| 08:16:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, not really sure. Either way you might have a hard time even finding a battery.
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| 08:16:52 PM | GoodGuy | This is from about 1999
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| 08:16:58 PM | GoodGuy | I know
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| 08:17:20 PM | GoodGuy | Probably more trouble than it is worth
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| 08:17:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I'd risk it and tear into it but that's just how I roll. I like to take stuff apart to mess with it and fix it.
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| 08:17:46 PM | GoodGuy | I would try SliTaz Linux on it
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| 08:17:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, if nothing else it'd be good to learn with so you'd get an idea of how things go together and stuff.
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| 08:18:02 PM | GoodGuy | That distro seems very light weight
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| 08:18:42 PM | GoodGuy | There is a PC shop a few miles away that wasn't too expensive
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| 08:18:42 PM | Tennessee_Frank | There's quite a few Distros. You can hit Distro Watch and go to the Search page and look for Distros for older equipment
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| 08:19:12 PM | GoodGuy | SliTaz seemed to boot faster than any other distro I played with
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| 08:19:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My first VW I just dug in and pulled out the motor and started working on it, same with laptops, just dig in and go to it.
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| 08:19:42 PM | GoodGuy | It is different, but I like it from what I saw
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| 08:20:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Desktop makes a big difference. I've noticed that Xfce boots faster then GNOME for me but I just like GNOME so much.
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| 08:20:14 PM | GoodGuy | If I touch it, it usually gets screwed up
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| 08:20:39 PM | GoodGuy | PinGuyOS has a pretty nice GNOME
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| 08:20:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy. many times that's how I learn. I'll mess something up, get a new part and fix it and then next time I now what I'm doing that much more.
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| 08:21:15 PM | GoodGuy | I have that installed as one of four linux installs
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| 08:22:01 PM | GoodGuy | Only hassle I found was the author included so many repos, it hangs trying to run updates
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| 08:22:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've gone through a few Distros over the last year and a half. Ubuntu 12.04, Linux Mint MATE, Point Linux 2.3, Kali 1.0.6, Manjaro and now I'm on Antergos.
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| 08:22:20 PM | GoodGuy | and a few lockups, but fairly rare
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| 08:22:53 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I like my Arch based stuff. I was Debian for quite a while but now that I'm into Arch stuff I really love it way more then Debian stuff.
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| 08:23:19 PM | GoodGuy | I also run Mint 17 Cinnamon and PCLinuxOS 64-bit
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| 08:23:21 PM | Kalecomm | Goodnight, y'all!
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| 08:23:28 PM | GoodGuy | Night Kalecomm
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| 08:23:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | C ya' later. take care
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| 08:23:44 PM | GoodGuy | I haven't tried Arch stuff yet
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| 08:23:55 PM | RobbieF | Sorry for being afk -- saw SashaD out & tucked in my boys
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| 08:24:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I was afraid to try anything Arch for the longest time until I gave Manjaro a try, it was really easy.
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| 08:24:32 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, we know that unlike use you've got an actual life, LOL
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| 08:24:39 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, who are you again? :)
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| 08:24:47 PM | GoodGuy | I know my way around Ubuntu/Debian and usually I am hurting enough learning is difficult
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| 08:24:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I'm just sitting watching TV and hangin' out in chat
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| 08:25:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, pacman is way simpler then apt-get. To update/upgrade all I do is a "sudo pacman -Syu" and that's it.
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| 08:25:43 PM | GoodGuy | In the good old days, I was always looking for new challenges.. now I am worn out and it is hard to concentrate and remember stuff
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| 08:25:45 PM | Tennessee_Frank | To remove a package it's "sudo pacman -Rc "package name".
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| 08:25:48 PM | bayprogrammer | I just installed Arch on my son's laptop today
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| 08:26:16 PM | GoodGuy | Do they have a graphical software manager also?
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| 08:26:39 PM | RobbieF | LOL _Jot_, Tennessee_Frank
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| 08:26:40 PM | GoodGuy | I thought Sabayon used Pacman also
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| 08:26:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | bayprogrammer, I've still not done an actual Arch install, way to complicated for me but Antergos isn't bad at all to install and gives me "real" Arch without all the fuss of doing the install.
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| 08:27:16 PM | GoodGuy | They seemed to change software tools every other release
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| 08:27:22 PM | bayprogrammer | Tennessee_Frank: it is a bit involved; I took the time to read the pertinent part of the wiki in some detail and came up with a cheat sheet of sort which helps speed things up for me now, so I know what you mean :)
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| 08:27:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, in Manjaro we have pamac or you can install Octopi(the one I liked) and in Antergos there's PacmanXG
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| 08:27:44 PM | GoodGuy | Entropy was one name that comes to mind
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| 08:27:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | bayprogrammer, yep, it's something to be proud of once you get it done but it's still way over my head.
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| 08:28:08 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, I am just checking my teespring order, and they are saying they're producing my order and making sure I get a beautiful high-quality print. Does Christa know they are messing up her work? :)
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| 08:28:25 PM | RobbieF | hahaha
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| 08:28:28 PM | bayprogrammer | ouch
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| 08:28:32 PM | bayprogrammer | :D
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| 08:28:56 PM | RobbieF | When you get them, please let us know which shirt is your favorite. I'll keep it in mind next time we do a teespring campaign
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| 08:29:06 PM | bayprogrammer | TF: no shame in using Manjaro IMO, or Debian or anything else that works well for one's needs
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| 08:29:18 PM | _Jot_ | so far, all of them, excpet the hoodie because in the pictures that didn't have a logo :P
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| 08:29:23 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Manjaro is a good Arch based Distro to start with then you can take off the "Training Wheels" and go with an Antergos install and have actual Arch that's easy to install.
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| 08:29:48 PM | bayprogrammer | I like the idea of Manjaro; might be my best bet trying to lure my wife away from Ubuntu :)
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| 08:30:02 PM | ABQTKY | Jot, the hoodie better have a logo!!
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| 08:30:04 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I moved from Manjaro to Antergos fairly easily, just a few things are done a bit differently but it was easy to catch onto.
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| 08:30:22 PM | bayprogrammer | You say Antergos is another Arch derivative? I'm not familiar with that one
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| 08:30:23 PM | _Jot_ | if you don't have to lure your wife away from Windows, you're already way ahead of things
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| 08:30:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I have my wife's Netbook running Manjaro GNOME, she things it's easier to use then the Debian based OS she was using.
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| 08:30:51 PM | bayprogrammer | _Jot_, yes, that hurdle has been long crossed, she actually quite loves her Ubuntu, so I'm not too worried about it :)
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| 08:30:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | my wife is using pointlinux
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| 08:31:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Antergos is basically Arch with a GUI installer so it makes it easier to do the install.
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| 08:31:17 PM | _Jot_ | ABQTKY, it should have! Probably just on the site they couldn't get it on properly, because the template is different
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| 08:31:20 PM | GoodGuy | Wasn't Antergos CinnArch in the past?
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| 08:31:27 PM | Dennis_Kelley | but she mostly uses her laptop to check web email and facebok
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| 08:31:31 PM | bayprogrammer | Dennis_Kelley: nice! I do like MATE
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| 08:32:04 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My wife was using Point Linux as well but she couldn't get the hang of doing "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" to do updates. "pacman -Syu" is much easier for her to use.
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| 08:32:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ditto DK, that's what my wife does. That and play Freecell, LOL
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| 08:32:22 PM | GoodGuy | My wife loves Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid and doesn't want any other version because it is too slow on her junky PC
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| 08:32:26 PM | bayprogrammer | Tennessee_Frank: that sounds useful (Antergos)
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| 08:32:44 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - if you like the D830, you might REALLY like a D6500! Might be a bit over fifty bucks, though.
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| 08:32:57 PM | GoodGuy | I suggested buying a new PC, but she says she is happy with the old junky one she has and save the cash
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| 08:33:01 PM | Tennessee_Frank | One very cool thing about the Antergos GUI installer is that you can pick your DE during install so one DVD lets you have all the different desktops.
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| 08:33:10 PM | bayprogrammer | GoodGuy: is she open to the idea of Point? MATE on Debian (basically) should be quite similar and fast as Ubuntu 10.04 was
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| 08:33:35 PM | GoodGuy | I have Point installed as a second option on her PC
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| 08:33:43 PM | bayprogrammer | ahh, ok
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| 08:33:50 PM | GoodGuy | she said it was too slow and boots Lucid
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| 08:33:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, LOL, yep, probably way over $50. I just want the D830 because it'll look like a larger version of my D420 so they'll be kind of a matched pair.
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| 08:34:04 PM | Tennessee_Frank | That would make my OCD VERY Happy.
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| 08:34:07 PM | GoodGuy | The futility of arguing with a woman lo
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| 08:35:05 PM | GoodGuy | Cheap to Keep lol
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| 08:35:05 PM | bayprogrammer | I tried to install Ubuntu 14.04 on an older AMD64 system of mine that has only 512 MB ram, impossibly slow; swapping constantly
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| 08:35:12 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - yeah, but the D6500 even LOOKS like the 430, AFAIR. Black. The 830 is grey. The 430 is black...I think.
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| 08:35:13 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I just got tired of Debian Stable being so slow to getting new packages. With Antergos, being real Arch, I get updates daily and the most current packages.
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| 08:35:38 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My little D420 is kind of a metal gray
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| 08:35:39 PM | bayprogrammer | Tennessee_Frank: I hear you; I really enjoy having constantly up to date stuff with Arch
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| 08:35:47 PM | GoodGuy | Unity is probably too much for that system bayprogrammer
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| 08:35:48 PM | _Jot_ | Tenessee_Frank, I'd hate to tell this, but since they are different sizes, your OCD will be very upset, since they aren't the same, don't fit at the same place always, and don't look equal next to each other :P
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| 08:35:50 PM | bayprogrammer | I really like the idea of that stability for a server though
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| 08:35:58 PM | bayprogrammer | GoodGuy: yes, I think you're right
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| 08:36:26 PM | GoodGuy | You could try another flavor of Ubuntu 14.04
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| 08:36:29 PM | bayprogrammer | I intend to reformat that system with FreeBSD
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| 08:36:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_, that's part of the point, the 15.4" D830 for desktop use and the D420 as a take along and sitting in chat in front of the TV laptop.
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| 08:36:43 PM | GoodGuy | Xubuntu or another one
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| 08:36:43 PM | bayprogrammer | I will run Ubuntu 14.04 in a VM on Xeon workstation if I really need it
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| 08:36:54 PM | _Jot_ | Tenessee_Frank, I know, you're going to be happy :)
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| 08:37:18 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Manjaro Stable would be good if you like Arch WITH Stability. It's easy to move from Stable to Testing or Unstable(basically Arch Stable) with Manjaro as well.
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| 08:37:55 PM | GoodGuy | I thought I read FreeBSD wants to format the entire disk,,, if so, that's a showstopper for me
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| 08:37:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank | _Jot_ I just need to get one of the NC6400's and the NC4400 sold to get the funds and have money left over for any little upgrades.
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| 08:38:14 PM | GoodGuy | I run a boot manager and install grub etc to the PBR
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| 08:38:27 PM | bayprogrammer | GoodGuy: probably, unless you did it completely manually; thankfully I have the available computers to not need to do dual booting anymore
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| 08:38:34 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - depending on chipsets you MIGHT be able have up to 8GB in the 430 and 830. And for each you can replace the CPU with a snazzier one. You gotta have a fast CPU!!
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| 08:38:54 PM | GoodGuy | My BIOS is flaky so I can't use Unetbootin etc
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| 08:39:16 PM | GoodGuy | I use RMPrepUSB and Easy2Boot along with BootICE
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| 08:39:47 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, I know from the Dell Wiki that my little D420 will actually accept a 2GB RAM stick so I can bump it up to 2.5GB. They have 512MB soldered onto the board, why do they do stuff like that.???
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| 08:39:55 PM | GoodGuy | I have to make the MBR a Windows type or it freezes up as soon as the first BIOS message
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| 08:40:14 PM | GoodGuy | Sockets cost $1 Tennessee_Frank
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| 08:40:25 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, with Antergos I can't use UNetbootin either, just doesn't work for some reason. I use SUSE ImageWriter and it works great.
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| 08:40:39 PM | GoodGuy | sell a million and they saved $1 million
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| 08:40:51 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - sorry about the 430 - but the 830 can probably take 8GB of DDR2!! Oh, and don't forget a big SSD.
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| 08:40:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, yep, but they just solder it to the board, same with my wife's Acer Aspire ZG5 Netbook.
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| 08:40:58 PM | GoodGuy | I can't use it with any distro
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| 08:42:00 PM | GoodGuy | Since my mobo is an Abit IP35 Pro, the factory won't be coming to rescue me.. They closed their doors a few years ago
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| 08:42:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, wish I could afford a good SSD for the D420 but it's 1.8", PATE/ZIF so Run Core is about the only quality game in town and that's $110 bucks for a 64GB
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| 08:42:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Give ImageWriter a try. You need to go into Terminal to run it, "sudo imagewriter" then that'll pull up the GUI.
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| 08:42:59 PM | ABQTKY | 1.8"??? Hmmm. well, how many USB ports are there?
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| 08:43:02 PM | GoodGuy | I could hardly ever boot from USB until I ran across Easy2Boot and the author is awesome.. he helped me to get things going
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| 08:43:40 PM | GoodGuy | I have Imagewriter somewhere
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| 08:43:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, there's 2 USB and one eSATA for the external hard drive but the bottom of the eSATA is a USB so I guess you could say 3 then.
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| 08:44:00 PM | GoodGuy | But I use Windows to create my USB drives
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| 08:44:15 PM | GoodGuy | Multi-booting is as easy as pie
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| 08:44:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, all the Apple stuff uses a 1.8" and my wife's Netbook uses that size as well.
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| 08:44:48 PM | GoodGuy | The author is one smart fellow and very willing to help
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| 08:45:04 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - so go get the dock station for the 430 - that might even have room for both an optical AND a hard drive of normal size.
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| 08:45:32 PM | GoodGuy | He is always playing around to get some new thing running.. worth reading his blog
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| 08:45:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, it's a 420, not a 430. The older model.
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| 08:45:59 PM | ABQTKY | Tennessee Frank - that sort of defeats the portablility thing, though. 420, oh, okay.
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| 08:46:08 PM | GoodGuy | http://www.easy2boot.com/
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| 08:46:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | ABQTKY, at least it's not a 410,,LOL
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| 08:47:01 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Got that site bookmarked GoodGuy, thanks.
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| 08:47:28 PM | GoodGuy | His blog tab points to another blog
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| 08:47:36 PM | GoodGuy | I read that one
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| 08:47:47 PM | GoodGuy | http://rmprepusb.blogspot.co.uk/
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| 08:48:05 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I kind of thought about getting a D630 to match up with the 420 but it's a 14.1 and the 420 is a 12.1" so they're so close. The 830 just made more sense
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| 08:48:30 PM | GoodGuy | Some of it wont make sense until you play with the program
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| 08:48:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank | That way I'll have a 15.4" for desktop use and the 12" for mobile use.
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| 08:48:58 PM | GoodGuy | I has a ton of fancy features, but the basics are very easy
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| 08:49:35 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I like basic, too many features can get complicated. That's why I don't like KDE, way too many things to tweak.
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| 08:50:39 PM | GoodGuy | He allows creating custom menus with various backgrounds etc
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| 08:50:56 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Sounds cool. I'll check it out later on.
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| 08:51:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Anyway, I'm going to get out of here. You guys have a great rest of the night. C ya'll later.
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| 08:51:23 PM | RobbieF | night tn
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| 08:52:14 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF - Take a look at Easy2Boot and RMPrepUSB
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| 08:52:44 PM | GoodGuy | You need to install RMPrepUSB first
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| 08:53:14 PM | GoodGuy | It would make an interesting show topic
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| 08:54:20 PM | RobbieF | goodguy, yeah I have the guy from Easy2Boot coming on the show
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| 08:54:28 PM | GoodGuy | Neat
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| 08:54:58 PM | GoodGuy | I emailed him a few times and he was very nice and helpful
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| 08:55:10 PM | _Jot_ | was his name Robbie Ferguson?
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| 08:55:15 PM | GoodGuy | Steve
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| 08:55:30 PM | GoodGuy | Dont recall his last name
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| 08:55:31 PM | _Jot_ | oh, I thought only Robbie Fergusons were nice and helpful :P
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| 08:55:49 PM | GoodGuy | They are as well lol
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| 08:56:12 PM | RobbieF | I'm just Canadian _Jot_... easy mistake.
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| 08:56:29 PM | RobbieF | But I feel compelled to apologize for your having misunderstood.
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| 08:56:32 PM | RobbieF | So, I'm truly sorry.
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| 08:56:39 PM | RobbieF | Perhaps I can hold the door for you.
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| 08:56:56 PM | _Jot_ | you're kicking me out? that's so rude!
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| 08:57:11 PM | RobbieF | No, no. I must apologize again for such a misunderstanding.
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| 08:57:33 PM | RobbieF | It must be the language barrier between English and Canadian: it's no doubt my fault.
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| 08:57:45 PM | GoodGuy | I started watching Best Recipes Ever when Kary Osmond was host and now they show her old episodes on the US Living Well Network
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| 08:58:06 PM | GoodGuy | See talks very similar to you
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| 08:58:23 PM | _Jot_ | maybe that is why you like her
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| 08:58:32 PM | GoodGuy | Pro Cessor instead od Pra Cessor like we say it
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| 08:58:47 PM | GoodGuy | Herb instead of Erb
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| 08:58:59 PM | GoodGuy | It seems to be an Ontario thing
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| 08:59:24 PM | RobbieF | ;)
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| 08:59:31 PM | RobbieF | We're very cultured here.
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| 08:59:40 PM | GoodGuy | The new host is fron New Foundland and she pronounces words motre like the USA
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| 08:59:50 PM | _Jot_ | oh by the way, I have this note here saying 'Harmony 650 oldsalt' not sure what it was for since it didn't come up
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| 09:00:02 PM | GoodGuy | I agree.. actually yor way makes more sense
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| 09:00:18 PM | GoodGuy | it reads processor
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| 09:01:28 PM | _Jot_ | they are all nice, you have to be more specific :P
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| 09:01:30 PM | RobbieF | thanks _Jot_
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| 09:01:36 PM | RobbieF | I did mention oldsalt off the top
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| 09:01:47 PM | RobbieF | but didn't get to the other stuff
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| 09:01:54 PM | GoodGuy | Until an idiot friend I went with insulted a friend of hers and she had to leave with the other girl
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| 09:02:32 PM | GoodGuy | Guess that's why my mother said be careful who you associate with
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| 09:04:54 PM | _Jot_ | thankfully you didn't listen to her and you still hang out with us :)
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| 09:05:09 PM | RobbieF | ha
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| 09:05:57 PM | GoodGuy | The guys older brother was in a biker club and he tried to act like he was a bad guy
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| 09:06:32 PM | GoodGuy | He wasn't bad for real, just tried to show off
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| 09:06:54 PM | GoodGuy | All my friends died young but one
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| 09:07:03 PM | _Jot_ | that usually doesn't end well, showing off :)
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| 09:07:12 PM | GoodGuy | Haven't seen him for years
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| 09:07:31 PM | GoodGuy | He cheated on his wife and I dropped him
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| 09:07:35 PM | RobbieF | aww, that's sad man
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| 09:09:34 PM | GoodGuy | my brother lived with them for awhile, but the brother and I didnt speak much
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| 09:10:34 PM | GoodGuy | When we were friends, his brother in law had a 426 Hemi
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| 09:11:05 PM | GoodGuy | He gave us a ride one time and had the speed up to 143 mph
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| 09:11:23 PM | _Jot_ | that s abit too fast for me :P
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| 09:11:25 PM | GoodGuy | Lucky we lived to tell of it lol
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| 09:12:27 PM | GoodGuy | Hanging around those guys was dangerous and almost got me killed a couple times
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| 09:12:52 PM | GoodGuy | a guy was doing 90 mph in a 25 zone
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| 09:12:59 PM | _Jot_ | well, live is dangerous :) and at the end you die anyway
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| 09:13:22 PM | _Jot_ | oh, that is not good, speedlimits aren't there just to irritate people
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| 09:13:36 PM | GoodGuy | a curve came up and he couldnt make the it
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| 09:13:58 PM | GoodGuy | Ran up the curb and knocked a no parking sign over like a twig
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| 09:14:31 PM | _Jot_ | fortunatly they are designed to not resist in those situatios
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| 09:14:34 PM | GoodGuy | Right in front of that was a telephone pole.. hit that and we all would have been killed
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| 09:15:12 PM | GoodGuy | The sign was stuck under the car, so I walked home and never drove with that guy again
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| 09:16:03 PM | GoodGuy | I heard he died of brain cancer before reaching 30
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| 09:16:13 PM | _Jot_ | souns like you had a lucky escape
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| 09:16:31 PM | RobbieF | :(
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| 09:16:33 PM | GoodGuy | The guy who was rude died around 30 from two cancers
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| 09:16:41 PM | RobbieF | Makes you wonder eh?
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| 09:16:54 PM | GoodGuy | My asked if we played in a chemical dump
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| 09:17:04 PM | GoodGuy | Yes
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| 09:17:24 PM | RobbieF | I think the state of the heart has a big impact on the health of an individual.
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| 09:17:57 PM | GoodGuy | One guy was a bit heavy and the other was thin
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| 09:18:02 PM | RobbieF | I mean, if you're generally stressed out all the time, you'll tend to be rude (due to stress)... so people see you as rude, but under all that, the stress is also causing cancer or some other issue.
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| 09:18:37 PM | GoodGuy | He always looked up to his older brother, so he tried to act tough
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| 09:18:59 PM | RobbieF | :(
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| 09:19:14 PM | GoodGuy | Most of the time he was actually a nice guy, but tried to show off
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| 09:19:15 PM | RobbieF | I aspire to act gentle.
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| 09:19:39 PM | GoodGuy | We were in middle school and high school
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| 09:19:55 PM | GoodGuy | Hard years of like
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| 09:19:57 PM | GoodGuy | life
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| 09:20:04 PM | RobbieF | yeah
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| 09:20:12 PM | RobbieF | Sad that it's that way.
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| 09:20:21 PM | RobbieF | Why can't humans generally be kinder to one another?
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| 09:20:27 PM | RobbieF | I think we learn as we gain experience.
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| 09:20:28 PM | GoodGuy | Two guys were competing for this girl
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| 09:20:32 PM | RobbieF | Some learn to hate, some learn to love.
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| 09:20:50 PM | GoodGuy | I could see it was getting rougher and rougher
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| 09:21:24 PM | GoodGuy | One day I looked up and some large biker hit me in the jaw knocking me out of the chair
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| 09:21:43 PM | GoodGuy | when I went to get up, he tried to kick me
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| 09:22:09 PM | RobbieF | gosh!
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| 09:22:11 PM | GoodGuy | I blocked it a few times and the girls mother game out with a handgun
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| 09:22:36 PM | GoodGuy | They took off and later I heard they had shotguns in their car
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| 09:23:06 PM | GoodGuy | Next week a guy was killed
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| 09:23:42 PM | GoodGuy | I got out just in time and that was the last I saw of them for years
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| 09:24:37 PM | GoodGuy | I wasn't a fighter type at all, so I hung around them figuring it was safer with a few friends
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