06:58:33 PM | DJQuad | hey Jot how goes it?
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06:58:41 PM | _Jot_ | I'm doing okay so far, how are you?
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06:58:41 PM | kyoshininja | Hi all.
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06:58:47 PM | _Jot_ | hi kyoshininja
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06:59:07 PM | keckeckec | Anyone get hit with the Belkin router fiasco today?
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06:59:23 PM | domainkeeper | hello everybody
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06:59:33 PM | _Jot_ | hi domainkeeper
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06:59:44 PM | ajamison5579 | no I do not use Belkin routers that is probably the worst thing you can do
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06:59:47 PM | DJQuad | good thanks. been playing too many games today and have a slight headache. lol
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06:59:48 PM | domainkeeper | hello Jot good to see ya
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07:00:01 PM | _Jot_ | hey RobbieF, you dombo, are you ready?
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07:00:12 PM | Thorneo_ | got a questio on piont linux can someone help with that??
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07:00:14 PM | ajamison5579 | Belkin is great for cables but their routers are so bad
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07:00:22 PM | napa_polarbear | hello ALL
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07:00:22 PM | GoodGuy | What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
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07:00:33 PM | _Jot_ | Thorneo_ ask, and maybe somebody has the answer
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07:00:51 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, it is the roku stream this time, and low quality
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07:00:56 PM | keckeckec | The delay is MUCH less tonight
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07:01:03 PM | RobbieF | trying low latency
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07:01:06 PM | RobbieF | doing our best with LTE
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07:01:18 PM | GWG | I look forward to watching at some point
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07:01:21 PM | Kalecomm | Why bother with Windows at all?
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07:01:27 PM | RevenantOni | Hey everyone!
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07:01:28 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF, What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
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07:01:43 PM | keckeckec | RobbieF: It's working really well. Probably 20 sec max
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07:02:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ok, I'm here, the show can start, LOL
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07:02:09 PM | GoodGuy | Because some people like Windows as well as Linux.. why exclude viewers?
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07:02:15 PM | Thorneo_ | well I just got it installed this morning now when I go and do an update their are some repositories that come up with a error.
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07:02:18 PM | ajamison5579 | I find the huge ads and the small player a bit jaring but other then that the stream looks good Robbief
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07:02:21 PM | DJQuad | @kalecomm games ad business apps not available on linux
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07:02:22 PM | Kalecomm | Awww....Windows doesn't just suck, it swallows!
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07:02:35 PM | RobbieF | Pays the bills, ajamison5579. Click on it 8 times if you like ;)
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07:02:53 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Windows IS becoming more and more like Linux, except for the Free part.
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07:03:16 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief I am not against ads they just seem to take the focus off the player
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07:03:28 PM | DJQuad | yep TN. hey btw :)
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07:03:30 PM | GoodGuy | Until today I started the Live TV window and overlaid it on the Hexchat window
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07:03:30 PM | ajamison5579 | due to the size differential
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07:03:31 PM | _Jot_ | maybe if you keep clicking them, they go away
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07:03:32 PM | Kalecomm | The only thing that I think that can save Windows from becoming obsolete is for it to be open sourced.
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07:03:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, so have ya' gotten my stickers mailed out yet????
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07:04:09 PM | ajamison5579 | Windows will never go away its to nested into the Enterprise and Corporate world
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07:04:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Howdy DJQ, howdy everyone. Missed the last couple of shows. Sorry about that.
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07:04:26 PM | RevenantOni | Windows won't go open source. Apple went to close out hardware. Microsoft went to close out software. It's how their monetization works
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07:04:27 PM | Kalecomm | You know, they said the same thing about Netware, too.
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07:04:54 PM | GoodGuy | Hi Bailey if you are on chat
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07:05:00 PM | BaileyJ | hello
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07:05:03 PM | Kalecomm | Yeah...I won't be using ANY copy of Win 10.
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07:05:03 PM | _Jot_ | Microsoft has been closing open-source software since their very first program
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07:05:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Little ol' you, RobbieF, LOL
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07:05:22 PM | Eric1212 | Hellooo!
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07:05:23 PM | GoodGuy | RobbieF, What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
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07:05:39 PM | RevenantOni | What's terrifying is that major corporations are STILL using XP on their networks. I see it at a lot of pharmaceutical plants I do work in
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07:05:44 PM | ajamison5579 | GoodGuy he answered your question
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07:05:45 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, roku stream, and ads
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07:05:47 PM | ajamison5579 | scroll up
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07:05:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Howdy Howdy
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07:05:56 PM | GoodGuy | I didnt see it
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07:06:01 PM | napa_polarbear | hi t frank
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07:06:06 PM | GoodGuy | Robbie ansered?
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07:06:15 PM | ajamison5579 | trying low latency
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07:06:15 PM | ajamison5579 | * RevenantOni (18a36de4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.163.109.228) has joined #category5
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07:06:15 PM | ajamison5579 | doing our best with LTE
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07:06:19 PM | kyoshininja | RevenantOni: I see the same in both medical device and Pharma
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07:06:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | howdy napa_polabear
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07:06:39 PM | DJQuad | here we go with the windows hating already. lol. not surprised, just surprised it's so soon
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07:06:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL, it's Windows, it'll NEVER be ready for use. LOL
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07:06:43 PM | GoodGuy | I didn't realize that was related to my question
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07:06:57 PM | Kalecomm | I agree with You, Tennessee Frank.
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07:07:05 PM | GoodGuy | I thought it was explaining lower resolution
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07:07:28 PM | ajamison5579 | it seemed to be a response to both questions
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07:07:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | DJQuad, Hate is such a mild word for how I feel about MicroSoft and Windows, LOL;-)
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07:07:39 PM | DJQuad | lol
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07:07:41 PM | ajamison5579 | to me anyway
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07:07:54 PM | Kalecomm | I've been converting all of my clients to various versions of Ubuntu from Windows so that they escape all of the Windows nonsense!
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07:08:14 PM | Eric1212 | Hi BaileyJ
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07:08:20 PM | _Jot_ | hi BaileyJ in the chatroom
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07:08:21 PM | keckeckec | Hi BaileyJ
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07:08:24 PM | GoodGuy | Hi BaileyJ in the chat room lol
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07:08:40 PM | DJQuad | there's room for both. if linux did everything windows does i wouldn't need to use it
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07:08:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I remember all those time I had to reinstall Win98 every couple of months just to keep things running smoothly.
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07:08:45 PM | alpeck | hi Bailey
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07:08:45 PM | _Jot_ | BaileyJ, we all miss SashaD too
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07:08:46 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello BaileyJ
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07:09:00 PM | kyoshininja | Hi Bailey
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07:09:02 PM | ajamison5579 | I tried Ubuntu Unity is just horrible to me I can not deal with it Gnome 3 is less jarring but still horrible in my eyes
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07:09:16 PM | ajamison5579 | I do not have a touch screen nor will I ever have one
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07:09:23 PM | RevenantOni | lol....Win98. I still have an old copy somewhere......used to be my favorite frisbee :)
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07:09:24 PM | Kalecomm | The ONLY thing that I use Windows for is certain games that just won't run without it. Other than that, it's crap!
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07:09:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | BaileyJ, tell ShahaD that she does look so Cool sitting behind that big desk though.
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07:09:31 PM | GoodGuy | Cinnamon and MATE seem pretty good
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07:10:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | GoodGuy, I moved from MATE to Xfce but I've been looking at Cinnamon the last couple days though.
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07:10:14 PM | Kalecomm | And with Steam moving to Linux, the gaming situation is changing. I flat-out REFUSE to play anymore games that require the Windows platform.
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07:10:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | BSOD yet??
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07:10:41 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief I heard they skipped it because they are wanting to distance themselves from Windows 8 so users do not think it related to Windows 8 or 8.1
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07:10:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello SashaD
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07:10:54 PM | Kalecomm | ajamison5579, try Kubuntu. It's great!
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07:10:54 PM | GoodGuy | I am using Mint 17 Cinnamon and it does everything I want
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07:11:02 PM | kyoshininja | Tennessee_Frank: I'm still on XFCE, but thinking about gnome
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07:11:08 PM | MrNaturopathy | Microsoft has made every other Version Horrible so I guess they decided to Skip Windows 9 so they could go from Terrible Windows 8 right into Aweful Ugly Windows 10 .
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07:11:15 PM | Kalecomm | I'm a KDE man myself! ;)
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07:11:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Howdy
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07:11:34 PM | demo | windows 10 - guarentee 10 years of support?
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07:11:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank | kyoshininja I kind of like the idea that Cinnamon is GNOME 3 based.
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07:11:53 PM | ajamison5579 | demo more like Windows 10 guaranteed 10 days
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07:12:00 PM | ABQTKY | 'TEN' has connotations...any vets want to comment on that?
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07:12:02 PM | RevenantOni | nein is no in german
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07:12:03 PM | Kalecomm | LOL!
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07:12:06 PM | GoodGuy | Nicht is also no
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07:12:08 PM | Thorneo_ | It's German
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07:12:17 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Windows is NO in any Language.
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07:12:30 PM | kyoshininja | Tennessee_Frank: I might try that next. I have 4 systems on XFCE and two with KDE
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07:12:32 PM | Budda_Belly | I read that Windows Nine name would cause a coding problem.
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07:12:33 PM | Night_Sky | lol
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07:12:34 PM | Kalecomm | Again, I agree with you Tennessee Frank.
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07:12:39 PM | GoodGuy | 10 was the prettiest girl in that movie
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07:12:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I love my Xfce and it works fine and all but I get bored, LOL
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07:12:52 PM | DJQuad | windows 10 is windows 9. the reason they didn't use "9" is because of the programs that checked for windows 95 compatibility. the libraries that dumb programmers checked for was "windows 9" which checked for windows95
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07:13:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I AM sticking with Manjaro though, LOVE my Manjaro.
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07:13:03 PM | _Jot_ | Nine in german sounds like Nein, which is German for 'No'
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07:13:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | 3.8GB is hardly a CD, LOL
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07:13:33 PM | Budda_Belly | Not sure what the issue would be.
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07:13:35 PM | Kalecomm | I still say "Nein" to Windows!
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07:13:44 PM | Thorneo_ | it looks just like some of the linux flavors that i have used in the past. Booting up that is.
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07:14:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | isn't there something about a keylogger
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07:14:13 PM | GoodGuy | Ask the celebs how that would work out
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07:14:15 PM | dirre | yes
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07:14:17 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, there is a keylogger
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07:14:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | MicroSoft is in the NSA's back pocket
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07:14:41 PM | dirre | everything is sent back to MS in this test
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07:14:44 PM | Kalecomm | Yeah...install the Win10 preveiw and MicroShaft puts you under a microscope!
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07:14:54 PM | ajamison5579 | Tennessee_Frank of course they are since the NSA probably runs on Windows lol
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07:14:57 PM | kyoshininja | keyloggers, cookies, and beacons...oh my...
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07:15:01 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Just say Nein to Windows Ten,LOL
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07:15:04 PM | Kalecomm | Indeed!
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07:15:11 PM | dirre | yes
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07:15:25 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Privacy Badger will help stop tracking cookies
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07:15:29 PM | ABQTKY | Nice, TN Frank!!!
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07:15:32 PM | Kalecomm | The ONLY thing that can save Windows in the long-term is for it to become open source.
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07:15:35 PM | dirre | upset with microsft anyway
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07:15:38 PM | RevenantOni | i'll say nein to Windows even in Spanish... NO
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07:15:44 PM | dirre | and their policies
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07:15:44 PM | MrNaturopathy | If anyone wants an Awesome Simple Linux for old hardware that just Works Q4OS is the solution in my opinion...
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07:15:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | BOSD, BOSD, BOSD,
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07:15:48 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief BSOD is to Windows what the Sad Mac 2 is to Mac OS
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07:15:55 PM | DJQuad | ok well the windows hating is getting old. have a great night all
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07:16:11 PM | Kalecomm | Love Sasha's comment! BSOD!
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07:16:12 PM | GoodGuy | Maybe VirtualBox does not support Win 10 yt
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07:16:16 PM | GoodGuy | yet
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07:16:22 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Don't think we're missing much there RobbieF. LOL
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07:16:24 PM | _Jot_ | Blue old screen of death?
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07:16:44 PM | dirre | you can install wondows 10 in virtualbox
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07:16:46 PM | Tennessee_Frank | To infinity and beyond.
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07:16:55 PM | thezenguy | making me dizzy
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07:17:09 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, maybe you need to wave a dead chicken over it or something?
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07:17:15 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF has a problem now, his show is copied before he even can make coffee. He'll go so thirsty
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07:17:15 PM | ajamison5579 | lol
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07:17:23 PM | ajamison5579 | sarafice a goat to Balmer
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07:17:25 PM | Kalecomm | Robbie, remember it's an hour show...trying to boot Windows 10 may take longer than we have tonight!
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07:17:26 PM | kyoshininja | DjQuad: sorry, just voicing my recent experience. Not hating.
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07:17:28 PM | dirre | but the guest part will not install
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07:17:49 PM | thezenguy | usb's are slow
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07:18:21 PM | thezenguy | try running linux persistence mode on usb, sloooow
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07:18:29 PM | Kalecomm | And you expected something different from MicroShaft?!
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07:18:44 PM | ajamison5579 | Windows will only work if you Sacrafice a goat to Steve Balmer
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07:18:59 PM | DJQuad | it's a dev copy robbie. doh
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07:19:10 PM | _Jot_ | no wonder it didn't work, I sacrified a couple of goats and sheep to Bill Gates
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07:19:12 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I took my two 32GB SSD's that I had and put em' into external enclosures and I boot to and install Linux Distros to them to play around with.
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07:19:15 PM | Kalecomm | Yeah...how about we sacrifice Steve Balmer instead ajamison5579.
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07:19:16 PM | GoodGuy | Will the archived show of this episode be normal quality?
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07:19:18 PM | dirre | I can watch tonight last week the roku channel would not work with category 5 last week
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07:19:23 PM | ajamison5579 | not to mention your loading it inside a VM
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07:19:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Wow, super fast boot time for Windows,
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07:19:25 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, yes, it will be
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07:19:30 PM | thezenguy | RobbieF, how big can a .htaccess be and not drag server down?
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07:19:33 PM | GoodGuy | Thanks _Jot_
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07:19:43 PM | ajamison5579 | Kalecomm Agreed I thing Windows went to hell when Bill stepped down
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07:20:07 PM | _Jot_ | GoodGuy, they are on LTE now, so a very low quality connection, so they have to use low quality, but the show is recorded on the server in full quality, so the files will be as normal
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07:20:08 PM | GoodGuy | Bill was there for Win ME wasn't he?
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07:20:09 PM | Kalecomm | XP was the last best Windows in my opinion.
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07:20:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Aunty Virus, LOL
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07:20:23 PM | Kalecomm | It's sucked more and more with every version since.
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07:20:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | and Uncle Malware
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07:20:33 PM | GoodGuy | I will download the normal quality
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07:20:43 PM | PCtweaker | Sorry joined late. I installed Windows 10 in VirtualBox. It only worked when I selected defaults for Windows 8.1.
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07:20:50 PM | ajamison5579 | GoodGuy MS has a bad habit every other version of Windows can be safely skipped as it will suck case and point Win ME, Vista, 8
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07:20:52 PM | ajamison5579 | and so on
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07:21:23 PM | dirre | I wanted to put windows 8 on my computers but microsoft said it would not install on xp computers
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07:21:30 PM | Kalecomm | Well, since they're skipping the numbering on 9 and going with 10, I think we can safely skip Win 10.
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07:21:38 PM | dirre | they wanted me to buy new computers
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07:22:26 PM | dirre | I instead hit the book so to speak to learn about Linux and glad i did
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07:22:48 PM | kyoshininja | RobbieF: my wife came in and commented that she likes your hair this way better than last show (she's in the peanut gallery).
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07:23:03 PM | GoodGuy | true ajamison5579
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07:23:07 PM | Kalecomm | Dirre, Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 all require a dual-core processor for it to be useable. Your old XP computer doesn't have that kind of power.
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07:23:14 PM | Tennessee_Frank | kyoshininja, my wife is in Phoenix visiting her family.
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07:23:40 PM | Kalecomm | Cool, Dirre.
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07:23:45 PM | _Jot_ | I commented earlier RobbieF looks just like an alien, since I've been playing that new game that just came out. He's bald, and drools all over stuff too.
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07:24:07 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesee_Frank: well...best to your wife. It was fun when she visited/participated in the chat.
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07:24:09 PM | dirre | Kalecomm: I replaced the motherboards with new current hardware
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07:24:09 PM | Kalecomm | Why do I suddenly feel ill?
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07:24:25 PM | Night_Sky | danger will robinson!
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07:24:27 PM | Night_Sky | lol
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07:24:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I make fun A LOT
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07:24:37 PM | MrNaturopathy | boots fast. lol
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07:24:37 PM | Kalecomm | Dirre: Ah. Yeah, it'll run on newer hardware.
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07:24:41 PM | PC_Help | A Blue Screen of Installation.
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07:24:55 PM | Kalecomm | LOL, PC_Help!
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07:25:01 PM | dirre | I am mystified I did not have problems with the install
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07:25:01 PM | _Jot_ | Parlez vous Francais?
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07:25:03 PM | thezenguy | The only thing Windows is good for is making usb install drives for the neighbors.
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07:25:29 PM | Tennessee_Frank | BaileyJ, shame on you. RobbieF, you need to convert her over to Linux before it's too late.
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07:25:39 PM | Night_Sky | windoze installation is fine.... it's the operation of it that leaves much to be desired lol
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07:25:56 PM | Kalecomm | Tennessee Frank: Absolutely! Convert that poor gal to Linux!
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07:25:57 PM | BaileyJ | LOL, I agree.
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07:26:01 PM | Thorneo_ | RobbieF looks a lot like linux installer
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07:26:08 PM | alpeck | this low latency is really killing the resolution
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07:26:25 PM | dirre | is robbie installing the 32 or 64 bit
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07:26:32 PM | BobK54 | And after waiting for 45 minutes of install goodness we end up with.....an operating system. Period.
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07:26:35 PM | RevenantOni | that and the update system sucks. boot up. get updates. 15 minute shutdown. reboot. 15 minute shutdown. reboot. 15 minute shutdown. boot into linux.
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07:26:38 PM | Kalecomm | 0% is about the correct amount of Windows 10 we should be seeing tonight.
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07:26:39 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Kalecomm, too many Great Distros that you can get for Free. Point Linux 2.3, Manjaro(my fav) SolydX
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07:26:41 PM | ajamison5579 | dirree the technical preview is only 32bit
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07:26:53 PM | ajamison5579 | i think
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07:27:02 PM | ajamison5579 | could be wrong
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07:27:16 PM | _Jot_ | no, there are versions for 32 bit and 64 bit, and different languages too
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07:27:18 PM | _Jot_ | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
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07:27:41 PM | dirre | both are available I could not get 64 to work used 32
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07:27:45 PM | Kalecomm | Robbie, perhaps Cat5 should just talk about Windows and not mess with it on the air.
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07:28:06 PM | kyoshininja | What is/are the selling point(s) of Win 10?
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07:28:24 PM | keckeckec | kyoshininja: The number '10'
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07:28:27 PM | ajamison5579 | kysoshinninja it has a 1 and a 0 in the name
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07:28:28 PM | Kalecomm | kyoshininja: Nothing that I can see.
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07:28:35 PM | kyoshininja | Ha!
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07:28:49 PM | alpeck | Robbie, we can't see the screen/
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07:28:53 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I downloaded the Manjaro Minimal Net Edition. I'm going to try to "Roll My Own" Manjaro, probably with Cinnamon and then install stuff I use/need and not have all that extra stuff that I never use.
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07:29:23 PM | Kalecomm | Let us know how that goes for you, Tennessee Frank.
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07:29:37 PM | Budda_Belly | Since I started watching Robbie on Studio D build, I stopped watching old three Stooges movies. He's funnier.
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07:29:40 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesee_Frank: that sounds great. I want to do that on external USB for travel.
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07:29:59 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Kalecomm, will do pard. I posted a thread on the Manjaro Forums to see how I should go about it. As long as I have a Terminal on install I should be ok.
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07:30:07 PM | _Jot_ | Budda_Belly, thats why I always watch the BSP when I can :)
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07:31:02 PM | Tennessee_Frank | kyoshininja, I've done a few installs onto USB and external SSD's here lately. I normally use a live boot to a DVD then install to USB/external SSD from that just to keep things simple.
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07:31:18 PM | Night_Sky | install in less than 60 mins? LMAO
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07:31:27 PM | Budda_Belly | _Jot_ I really feel sorry for him sometimes
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07:31:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, wow, that news "Studio" looks very cool.
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07:31:36 PM | Dennis_Kelley | GoodGuy: hello
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07:31:41 PM | thezenguy | You think Mickeysoft is bad, you should try iOS.
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07:31:54 PM | kyoshininja | Tennessee_Frank: I've had to do USB to USB with my work (IT managed) Dell which doesn't have an optical disk.
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07:32:07 PM | thezenguy | iOS reminds me of Windows 3.1.
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07:32:09 PM | Kalecomm | thezenguy: Nah! I'll stick to Linux/Android.
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07:32:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | kyoshininja I've done that, I just have to double check which is the installing USB and which is the one to be installed too, LOL
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07:32:33 PM | thezenguy | Kalecomm, that was a joke ;)
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07:33:00 PM | Budda_Belly | ROKU buffering
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07:33:09 PM | ajamison5579 | The XboxOne clone shall be called the Ybox Two
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07:33:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Why would you want to when it's so easy to build a SteamOS box???
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07:33:12 PM | thezenguy | mine doing good.
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07:33:17 PM | Kalecomm | My ROKU is doing quite well.
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07:33:30 PM | Budda_Belly | Huh
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07:33:44 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Kalecomm, same here, Roku is working well tonight, of course now I've jinked it,LOL
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07:33:55 PM | kyoshininja | Roku has been stable, no buffering so far.
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07:34:12 PM | Budda_Belly | Three times for me
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07:34:26 PM | kyoshininja | Roku is just a bit blurry due to low resolution of the LTE hotspot RobbieF is using.
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07:34:33 PM | _Jot_ | I think it depends on what roku servers you happen to connect to
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07:34:37 PM | Kalecomm | kyoshininja: Mine's stable, too.
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07:34:39 PM | _Jot_ | about the buffering
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07:35:38 PM | MrNaturopathy | this is the first time my Roku did not Buffer even once. Im Happy so far...
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07:35:40 PM | Budda_Belly | I don't usually have a problem
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07:35:44 PM | thezenguy | Spint bout to go under too.
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07:35:49 PM | thezenguy | Sprint...
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07:35:51 PM | ABQTKY | Hey, RobbieF, do you have somedody standing on the roof holding that LTE gizmo over his head?
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07:35:54 PM | RevenantOni | I've noticed my Roku buffers more often if I'm downloading tons of crap, or otherwise if the bandwidth is being hogged elsewhere.
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07:36:28 PM | _Jot_ | ABQTKY, yeah, and if people have issues, that person has to run around on the roof to try to catch all the packets
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07:36:36 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | Well, Roku was doing fine but Interweb connection went down.
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07:36:57 PM | thezenguy | how man times you test that ShellShock bug? i wonder how long it been around.
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07:37:04 PM | Budda_Belly | The only thing I have going is ROKU and this chat
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07:37:13 PM | dirre | I'm only up to the spiderman episode
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07:37:19 PM | _Jot_ | you can get the mugs from http://shop.category5.tv and if you just want to give some money, http://cat5.tv/c
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07:37:37 PM | Kalecomm | RevenantOni: What kind of bandwidth do you have? Time Warner Cable just upgraded my internet last July to 100Mbps.
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07:37:40 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | Mug for the camera
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07:37:57 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | LOL
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07:38:02 PM | thezenguy | i don't see banners :-\
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07:38:04 PM | Kalecomm | LOL!
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07:38:08 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF has quite a mug
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07:38:16 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | RobbieF so have you got my stickers mailed out yet????
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07:38:19 PM | kyoshininja | SashaD: LOL!
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07:38:23 PM | keckeckec | Kalecomm: what bandwidth do you actually get?
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07:38:42 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | I could have done an entire Majaro install by now.
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07:38:46 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | Manjaro
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07:38:56 PM | dirre | the william Tell 1812 overture
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07:39:20 PM | thezenguy | Manjaro good, but I prefer debian jessie with xfce. don't know why they switched back to gnome, it broke.
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07:39:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | TWiT has a program now about learning how to program. Shannon Morse from Hak5 is on it.
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07:39:43 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesee_Frank: I agree. Manjaro has a clean timely install (both gui and CLI)
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07:39:48 PM | Kalecomm | keckeckec: Depends on which router I use. The one closest to the Cable Modem actually gives me between 99Mbps and 110Mbps. If I use this machine which is connected by a second router, I usually top out at about 90Mbps.
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07:39:52 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | Debian is ok but I really love pacman and having the AUR.
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07:40:16 PM | keckeckec | That's great, Kalecomm. Around here people don't get anywher near what they're promised
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07:40:19 PM | thezenguy | Manjaro is good, but I didn't like that AUR stuff.
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07:40:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | AUR has ANY and EVERY package you'd ever want the second it comes out. Can't get much better then that
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07:40:53 PM | Kalecomm | Keckeckec: Well, I live near Austin, TX and Google Fiber is coming to town. That's why.
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07:40:57 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief you need to buy yourself one of those color changing mugs on your store to show off
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07:40:58 PM | thezenguy | Yeah, that's how I roll. Learn it in 24 hours :-p
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07:41:11 PM | keckeckec | Kalecomm: Ahh That explains it
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07:41:16 PM | dirre | I had to wash my mouth with soap TWIT was so dirty today
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07:41:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | DJQuad, you have a Roku, right?
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07:41:42 PM | DJQuad | yep 3 of em
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07:42:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | Install TWiT and check out the programing show
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07:42:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | IIRC they started with Python but still, it's a start.
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07:42:55 PM | dirre | I like watching Robbie's show it is so nice and clean
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07:43:00 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | They started at the very beginning too.
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07:43:10 PM | DJQuad | yeah i'm thinking php, perl, or even ruby
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07:43:56 PM | DJQuad | thanks robbie
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07:44:16 PM | thezenguy | i can scrap with php or perl :-\
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07:44:44 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, don't forget you always use 1234 as a password so you can at least remember it
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07:44:59 PM | Kalecomm | He means "regress" instead of "progress", right?
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07:45:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | RobbieF, don't forget to install an Anti-Virus.
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07:45:58 PM | onewanman1 | it it my PC HD card or is the stream fuzzy
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07:46:06 PM | Kalecomm | Turn it off! Turn it off! It said that it's screwing things up for us!
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07:46:14 PM | _Jot_ | the stream is in low quality, so it does appear somewhat fuzzy to some
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07:46:17 PM | dirre | Robbie you should be almost sone
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07:46:19 PM | kyoshininja | Good luck DJQuad. You might want to check out lynda.com and linuxacademy online software training
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07:46:22 PM | dirre | done
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07:46:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank1 | It's more like Linux, that's the ONLY thing that's cool about Windows 10
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07:46:37 PM | onewanman1 | thanks Jot
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07:47:11 PM | Tennessee_Frank | They're catching up to Linux, LOL
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07:47:18 PM | RevenantOni | well...at least they ditched the "Metro" BS
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07:47:19 PM | DJQuad | windows 10 has its on antivirus, which pissed off companies like norton
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07:47:32 PM | DJQuad | own*
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07:47:47 PM | Kalecomm | Yeah...Win 10 is supposed to have, <*gasp*>! virtual workspaces! Linux has had since what, 1996?
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07:47:53 PM | dirre | I am in the minority in that wondows 10 looks like they took windows 7 and windows 8 poured in an cake pan baked it and windows 20 came out of the cake pan
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07:47:57 PM | _Jot_ | they should be worried, microsoft bought mcafee, and mcafee and norton are the worst antivirus companies out there
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07:47:58 PM | dirre | 10
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07:48:11 PM | DJQuad | thanks kyoshininja i will
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07:48:17 PM | GoodGuy | Dexpot has multiple desktops for Windows..free
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07:48:19 PM | _Jot_ | windows has had virtual workspaces since windows 95
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07:48:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, you really need to get BaileyJ over to a good Linux Distro and show her what a REAL op system looks like.
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07:48:27 PM | Kalecomm | Jot: I agree whole-heartedly!
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07:48:39 PM | GoodGuy | Might be spelled incorrectly
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07:48:44 PM | Kalecomm | Tennessee Frank: Indeed!
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07:48:46 PM | thezenguy | Windows always seem to hang or take a long time with simple task like unzipping large files or copying big files to usb.
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07:48:49 PM | dirre | how long has Linux had mutiple desktops standard
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07:49:03 PM | PC_Help | Does windows 10 categorize the start menu yet, like Linux does?
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07:49:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | She can even dual boot for a while until she get's use to running Linux.
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07:49:06 PM | _Jot_ | linux always has had multiple desktops, because of x-windows
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07:49:11 PM | _Jot_ | plus multiple consoles
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07:49:30 PM | RevenantOni | yeah...i remember multiple desktops way back when i was using Mandrake 5
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07:49:38 PM | Kalecomm | dirre: I've been using since 2002 and Linux has had virtual desktops since at least then.
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07:49:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | is roku stream working yet?
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07:49:59 PM | _Jot_ | Dennis_Kelley, it is the only video-stream being used, so yeah, definatly
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07:50:22 PM | kyoshininja | Dennis_Kelley: roku has been stable for me, just a bit out of focus due to bandwidth limitations, but stable.
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07:50:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Dennis_Kelley, Roku has been solid, my interweb connection hasn't been though.
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07:50:31 PM | Night_Sky | linux has had multiple desktops since before 1998 when Windows 95 first introduced me to Red Hat lol
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07:50:54 PM | GoodGuy | http://dexpot.de/
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07:51:06 PM | GoodGuy | free multiple desktops on window
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07:51:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Why is copy and paste into Terminal such a big deal. I've been doing that since day one with Linux.
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07:51:23 PM | alpeck | your window is cracked
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07:51:43 PM | DJQuad | oh sorry i missed your msg TN. yeah i watch twit regularly. i need to go back to padre's old coding 101 episodes
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07:52:08 PM | RevenantOni | was that just a mashup of metro and a start menu? o_O
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07:52:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | DJQuad, that's the show, Coding 101. Looked interesting enough.
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07:52:39 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Tennessee_Frank is important to Windows 10 because they can now be like Linux
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07:52:49 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I always love watching Security Now with Steve Gibson.
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07:52:55 PM | PCtweaker | I love the wallpaper they chose. It looks like the screens broken:-)
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07:53:17 PM | Kalecomm | PCtweaker: Indeed! That's EXACTLY what I thought!
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07:53:27 PM | DJQuad | he seems so cranky. john c dvorak is my favorite :)
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07:53:31 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Ditto, UGLY
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07:53:43 PM | GoodGuy | What is Number One?
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07:54:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Steve is pretty cool from what I've seen, he explains stuff so that even I can understand it, LOL
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07:54:17 PM | Tennessee_Frank | 5 stars from me.
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07:54:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | At least until this Windows Show, LOL
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07:54:48 PM | PCtweaker | Kalecomm: They want to keep expectations low, LOL
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07:54:50 PM | kyoshininja | Tennessee_Frank: is Steve Gibson available on roku?
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07:54:52 PM | onewanman1 | what program is john c dvorak on now
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07:55:01 PM | GoodGuy | It might be wise to lose the Windows bashing to make this show grow
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07:55:03 PM | DJQuad | that's why we're here robbie ;)
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07:55:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | kyoshininja yep, Security Now on TWiT.
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07:55:21 PM | kyoshininja | Tennessee_Frank: thanks...
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07:55:27 PM | GoodGuy | Why not welcome everyone instead of only Linux fans
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07:55:27 PM | Tennessee_Frank | NP Pard
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07:55:30 PM | DJQuad | @goodguy i completely agree
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07:55:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RobbieF, stickers????
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07:55:35 PM | Kalecomm | GoodGuy: Windows bashing? We weren't bashing Windows, we were just being honest!
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07:55:55 PM | dirre | the difference is that Robbie has a nice clean show robbir e does not talk about male anatomy on air like the other network did today
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07:55:56 PM | GoodGuy | Only in your opinion to be fair Kalecomm
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07:56:10 PM | dirre | HOO bOY
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07:56:16 PM | Kalecomm | GoodGuy: Mine and many, many more!
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07:56:17 PM | GoodGuy | If Windows works for them, who are we to judge
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07:56:19 PM | Night_Sky | I started on windows.... loved it (since windows 98se anyways and xp was good)
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07:56:36 PM | GoodGuy | How many Windows users vs Linux users Kalecomm ?
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07:57:05 PM | GoodGuy | Alienate a large majority... makes no sense to me
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07:57:12 PM | Kalecomm | GoodGuy: True. If it works for them, fine. I just don't support them. Windows 8/8.1/10 just isn't in my wheelhouse.
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07:57:13 PM | thezenguy | RobbieF, http://hardtodetect.com/linux/usb-flash-drive-repair/
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07:57:21 PM | RobbieF | Thanks!
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07:57:25 PM | PCtweaker | I'm greatful for MS Windows. It's kept me employed for almost 25 years now.
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07:57:25 PM | DJQuad | windows is great. linux is great. they each have their uses, strengths, and weaknesses. the bashing of either just seems so petty
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07:57:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | My buddy in Phoenix, AZ is a hardcore Windows 7 user. Tried to move him over to Linux but he's just not willing to learn or change so what can I do.
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07:57:35 PM | thezenguy | Won't work though if usb flash is write protected, I never solved that one.
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07:57:41 PM | napa_polarbear | setup pigin
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07:57:48 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Stickers????
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07:57:54 PM | ajamison5579 | Robbief How much wood would a wood chuck, chuck if a Wood chuck could chuck wood?
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07:58:10 PM | Tennessee_Frank | BaileyJ, ask RobbieF if he's mailed out my stickers yet??
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07:58:31 PM | GoodGuy | Thats fine.. I have two Windows versions installed and four Linux distros on this PC... not counting several Puppy flavors within Windows and more Linux installs in VirtualBox
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07:58:35 PM | napa_polarbear | setup pidgin
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07:58:36 PM | Kalecomm | RobbieF, have you mailed out Tennessee Frank's stickers yet? :)
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07:58:44 PM | thezenguy | I believe my problems with USB originated from that YUMI program. I wouldn't use it.
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07:59:00 PM | Tennessee_Frank | They're the last stickers that I need to finish my laptops
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07:59:05 PM | RevenantOni | primarily, Windows lacks malleability IMO. I can't see paying so much money for a product I can't change to suit my needs. Sort of like buying a muscle car, but Chevy says you're not allowed to do a motor swap.
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07:59:05 PM | GoodGuy | Not like I don't Linux... I also use Windows and like that also
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07:59:15 PM | Tennessee_Frank | If he just needs a photo he can use Screen Shot
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07:59:26 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Crop it and remove the meta data
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07:59:40 PM | GoodGuy | If we push away Windows users, RobbieF's viewers will be less than it could be
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07:59:46 PM | Guest_6965 | http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.screencast-o-matic.com%2F&ei=aX40VJOkOdGOuAS6yYCoAQ&usg=AFQjCNFrZzPHzS6ApjBMZEYoQtxrV4xREw&sig2=Q4VFiPAW-F5G1B2mr20cLw&bvm=bv.76943099,d.c2E try this
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08:00:19 PM | Kalecomm | Understood, GoodGuy.
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08:00:21 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Why would you want to swap out a Chevy motor for something else, LOL
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08:00:30 PM | GoodGuy | Plus Windows addons and utilities earn many people a good living
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08:00:34 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Build a good 383 small block and have fun.
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08:00:39 PM | DJQuad | it's as petty as the age-old debate for the last 30 years - mac vs pc. both sides should pipe down and stop being such fanboys
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08:00:40 PM | RevenantOni | change the 350 for a 454!
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08:00:49 PM | napa_polarbear | setup pidgin
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08:01:22 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesee_Frank: swap Chevy for Warp Engines
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08:01:28 PM | Tennessee_Frank | LOL
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08:01:42 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Don't know if that's NHRA legal though.
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08:01:51 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Poor SashaD sitting there all alone.
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08:01:59 PM | PCtweaker | It's Robbie's inclusiveness that has kept this life long Windows user (after the Commodore 64 of course) coming back every week.
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08:02:33 PM | BobK54 | interesting show about some strange OS I never heard about! :)
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08:02:42 PM | BobK54 | night all
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08:02:50 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Night BobK54
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08:02:57 PM | thezenguy | Windows is dead, and Desktop Office Suites are dead.
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08:02:58 PM | Budda_Belly | Bye all
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08:03:12 PM | Whiskey_Zero | RobbieF The show worked perfect on Roku! See you next week.
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08:03:15 PM | thezenguy | I don't even use the free Office programs.
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08:03:25 PM | Night_Sky | great show! Thanks :o)
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08:03:30 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Need to go see what's on the TV and get a cold beer and some meds for my cold, LOL
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08:03:39 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: do you run linux?
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08:03:52 PM | _Jot_ | Tennessee_Frank, enjoy drining your meds and eating your beer
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08:03:54 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I got the sniffles real bad on Thursday and I'm still trying to shake it.
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08:04:04 PM | thezenguy | Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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08:04:07 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesse_Frank: hope you feel better....
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08:04:08 PM | Tennessee_Frank | It's a generic version of DayQuil
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08:04:17 PM | RevenantOni | Tennessee_Frank: double shot of vodka with a bunch of crushed red pepper. slug it, wrap tight in blanket. will sweat it all out
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08:04:19 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Seems to take the edge off a bit.
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08:04:41 PM | GoodGuy | I wonder if all the linux systems together would equal the number of users still running WinXP.. no longer sold or supported
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08:04:46 PM | RevenantOni | it's an old Russian trick my ex-wife taught me. works really well.....and is an excuse to buy vodka
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08:04:48 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: nice. If you don't use the free office programs, what do you use instead?
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08:04:52 PM | DJQuad | great show as always robbie. fastest hour of my week. it was a bit of a turn-off with all the windows bashing, we get you're a linux guy but it did seem petty. it won't of course stop me being a fan tho. i'm here every week
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08:04:57 PM | Dennis_Kelley | see ya Tennessee_Frank
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08:05:03 PM | Tennessee_Frank | RevenantOni, I had some white beans with plenty of red crushed pepper in em' the other night and it actually upset my stomach
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08:05:07 PM | Tennessee_Frank | See ya DK
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08:05:15 PM | GoodGuy | A lot of potential viewer to ignore
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08:05:21 PM | GoodGuy | viewers
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08:05:24 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've been trying to go easy on the spicy food since then.
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08:05:29 PM | thezenguy | mousepad, vi and sublime text. if i have to fill out a form it's usually a supplied pdf.
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08:05:48 PM | thezenguy | if not, google docs works good.
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08:05:58 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Had a really rough night Sunday night. Keep having crazy dreams, guess they were Fever Dreams because I had the chills and stuf.
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08:06:13 PM | GoodGuy | Tennessee_Frank - You don't meet our son... he grows some of the hottest peppers in the world
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08:06:15 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: I see, unfortunately, most of my colleagues use an office suite, and I try to be compatible with their file formats.
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08:06:47 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Not really into "hot", just like something flavorful.
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08:06:55 PM | DJQuad | focus on the strengths of linux rather than complaining about windows like it was brussels sprouts when you were a kid. lol
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08:07:17 PM | GoodGuy | He and many others consider that flavorful lol
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08:07:18 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: I would use google docs, but I'm concerned about the security of storing stuff on the google cloud.
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08:07:35 PM | datamangler | a couple more version of "Windows" and it will be no more.
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08:07:37 PM | thezenguy | kyoshininja, the local schools use google now.
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08:07:41 PM | Tennessee_Frank | I've had peppers so hot that they make your tongue numb and you can't taste anything afterwards, LOL
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08:07:56 PM | RevenantOni | yeah...that's a bit TOO hot
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08:08:06 PM | Tennessee_Frank | The worst one was a little Tai Pepper in some Chinese food that I had once.
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08:08:17 PM | GoodGuy | The super hot ones can cause some real problems lol
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08:08:18 PM | RevenantOni | I LOVE hot and spicy food, but not at the sacrifice of flavor
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08:08:28 PM | DJQuad | lol TN me too. it's too hot when all you taste is pain
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08:08:37 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: I think the same here for some schools. However, I don't want to have proprietary/client data stored in the cloud.
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08:08:39 PM | thezenguy | kyoshininja, with google I would not use primary account though. get another one for online stuff.
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08:08:44 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Oh well, I'm going to get out of here. I'll catch ya'll later. Have a great rest of the week.
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08:08:57 PM | RevenantOni | if you have to contemplate putting TP in the freezer....DON'T EAT IT
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08:08:58 PM | _Jot_ | you too Tennessee_Frank, feel better
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08:09:06 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: great advice. I haven't thought about that.
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08:09:10 PM | DJQuad | you too TN. have a great week
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08:09:12 PM | Tennessee_Frank | Thanks _Jot_ see ya'
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08:09:19 PM | kyoshininja | Tennesee_Frank: have a good night.
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08:09:40 PM | thezenguy | kyoshininja, goog allows switching account now. pretty easy.
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08:10:04 PM | RevenantOni | i've been trying to move away from Google....easier said than done. epsecially with the android phone
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08:10:11 PM | kyoshininja | thezenguy: thanks, I certainly will try that out. I definitely have a need.
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08:10:36 PM | PCtweaker | I work for a high school, and we've migrated the students to Google Docs with Gmail accounts, but staff still use PCs or Macs. Works great (as long as the Internet doesn't go down).
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08:11:28 PM | kyoshininja | have a great night all....
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08:11:31 PM | kyoshininja | c ya next time.
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08:11:52 PM | DJQuad | see ya all. take care
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08:11:52 PM | GoodGuy | Smokin' Ed's Carolina Reaper - World's Hottest Pepper
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08:12:00 PM | thezenguy | later ;)
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08:12:01 PM | RevenantOni | do schools even allow kids to use pencils and paper anymore? or are they afraid those can be used as weapons?
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08:12:07 PM | GoodGuy | Thats the hottest pepper in the world... so far
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08:12:39 PM | RevenantOni | half the cats I know with kids in school have said that everything is iPad this and laptop that. they don't even teach cursive writing anymore
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08:13:03 PM | GoodGuy | Do you read Linux Journal PCtweaker ?
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08:13:16 PM | RobbieF | We did it! :)
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08:13:29 PM | GoodGuy | Shawn Powers works for a local school system last I heard
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08:13:44 PM | thezenguy | RevenantOni, they got problems but i don't pay it no attention. Just wish them good luck when you kick them out the nest ;)
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08:13:46 PM | datamangler | good show Robbie
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08:14:38 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, looked good to me! The New York State motto is Excelsior, onward and upward for Category5 Technology TV!!
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08:14:41 PM | thezenguy | thanks guy, hexchat worked out great. after I adjusted the fonts size and colors.
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08:15:12 PM | thezenguy | that port number on cat5 site didn't work though, i used default on freenode.
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08:15:36 PM | thezenguy | typo?
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08:15:38 PM | GoodGuy | I like HexChat ease of use to setup SSL encryption
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08:16:00 PM | thezenguy | i didn't fool with ssl, they going to publish this anyway.
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08:16:11 PM | GoodGuy | FreeNode accepts self signed certificates
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08:16:49 PM | GoodGuy | I just liked playing with it and it made logging into Nickserv easy
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08:17:18 PM | thezenguy | i don't login, that's one advantage of irc.
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08:17:36 PM | thezenguy | hate every site you come to that requires logins.
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08:17:44 PM | GoodGuy | You use Nickserv to reserve your nickname on IRC
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08:18:12 PM | GoodGuy | Otherwise another moron could offend people and pretend to be you
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08:18:19 PM | thezenguy | i tried it once, but it disappeared. i guess cause I didn't login or maybe forgot pwd.
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08:18:22 PM | RobbieF | I'm off all.
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08:18:25 PM | RobbieF | have a great night!!
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08:18:27 PM | RobbieF | time to go buy chairs
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08:18:38 PM | GoodGuy | You have to register it with Nickserv
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08:18:39 PM | RobbieF | ... BIG blowout until 9pm (it's 8:20)
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08:18:43 PM | GWG | GoodGuy: I use StartSSL certificates
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08:18:52 PM | GoodGuy | Type /msg Nickserv Help
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08:18:58 PM | thezenguy | GoodGuy, I did that once. It worked a few times then it didn't work.
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08:19:14 PM | RobbieF | Good night.
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