Chat Logs for Episode 368 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 81 Posts:Tennessee_Frank
With 55 Posts:GoodGuy
With 53 Posts:Kalecomm
With 39 Posts:thezenguy
With 37 Posts:_Jot_


Chat Logs:

06:58:33 PMDJQuad hey Jot how goes it?
06:58:41 PM_Jot_ I'm doing okay so far, how are you?
06:58:41 PMkyoshininja Hi all.
06:58:47 PM_Jot_ hi kyoshininja
06:59:07 PMkeckeckec Anyone get hit with the Belkin router fiasco today?
06:59:23 PMdomainkeeper hello everybody
06:59:33 PM_Jot_ hi domainkeeper
06:59:44 PMajamison5579 no I do not use Belkin routers that is probably the worst thing you can do
06:59:47 PMDJQuad good thanks. been playing too many games today and have a slight headache. lol
06:59:48 PMdomainkeeper hello Jot good to see ya
07:00:01 PM_Jot_ hey RobbieF, you dombo, are you ready?
07:00:12 PMThorneo_ got a questio on piont linux can someone help with that??
07:00:14 PMajamison5579 Belkin is great for cables but their routers are so bad
07:00:22 PMnapa_polarbear hello ALL
07:00:22 PMGoodGuy What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
07:00:33 PM_Jot_ Thorneo_ ask, and maybe somebody has the answer
07:00:51 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, it is the roku stream this time, and low quality
07:00:56 PMkeckeckec The delay is MUCH less tonight
07:01:03 PMRobbieF trying low latency
07:01:06 PMRobbieF doing our best with LTE
07:01:18 PMGWG I look forward to watching at some point
07:01:21 PMKalecomm Why bother with Windows at all?
07:01:27 PMRevenantOni Hey everyone!
07:01:28 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
07:01:43 PMkeckeckec RobbieF: It's working really well. Probably 20 sec max
07:02:06 PMTennessee_Frank Ok, I'm here, the show can start, LOL
07:02:09 PMGoodGuy Because some people like Windows as well as Linux.. why exclude viewers?
07:02:15 PMThorneo_ well I just got it installed this morning now when I go and do an update their are some repositories that come up with a error.
07:02:18 PMajamison5579 I find the huge ads and the small player a bit jaring but other then that the stream looks good Robbief
07:02:21 PMDJQuad @kalecomm games ad business apps not available on linux
07:02:22 PMKalecomm Awww....Windows doesn't just suck, it swallows!
07:02:35 PMRobbieF Pays the bills, ajamison5579. Click on it 8 times if you like ;)
07:02:53 PMTennessee_Frank Windows IS becoming more and more like Linux, except for the Free part.
07:03:16 PMajamison5579 Robbief I am not against ads they just seem to take the focus off the player
07:03:28 PMDJQuad yep TN. hey btw :)
07:03:30 PMGoodGuy Until today I started the Live TV window and overlaid it on the Hexchat window
07:03:30 PMajamison5579 due to the size differential
07:03:31 PM_Jot_ maybe if you keep clicking them, they go away
07:03:32 PMKalecomm The only thing that I think that can save Windows from becoming obsolete is for it to be open sourced.
07:03:34 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, so have ya' gotten my stickers mailed out yet????
07:04:09 PMajamison5579 Windows will never go away its to nested into the Enterprise and Corporate world
07:04:15 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy DJQ, howdy everyone. Missed the last couple of shows. Sorry about that.
07:04:26 PMRevenantOni Windows won't go open source. Apple went to close out hardware. Microsoft went to close out software. It's how their monetization works
07:04:27 PMKalecomm You know, they said the same thing about Netware, too.
07:04:54 PMGoodGuy Hi Bailey if you are on chat
07:05:00 PMBaileyJ hello
07:05:03 PMKalecomm Yeah...I won't be using ANY copy of Win 10.
07:05:03 PM_Jot_ Microsoft has been closing open-source software since their very first program
07:05:07 PMTennessee_Frank Little ol' you, RobbieF, LOL
07:05:22 PMEric1212 Hellooo!
07:05:23 PMGoodGuy RobbieF, What happened to the Live TV in a separate small window?
07:05:39 PMRevenantOni What's terrifying is that major corporations are STILL using XP on their networks. I see it at a lot of pharmaceutical plants I do work in
07:05:44 PMajamison5579 GoodGuy he answered your question
07:05:45 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, roku stream, and ads
07:05:47 PMajamison5579 scroll up
07:05:49 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy Howdy
07:05:56 PMGoodGuy I didnt see it
07:06:01 PMnapa_polarbear hi t frank
07:06:06 PMGoodGuy Robbie ansered?
07:06:15 PMajamison5579 trying low latency
07:06:15 PMajamison5579 * RevenantOni (18a36de4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.163.109.228) has joined #category5
07:06:15 PMajamison5579 doing our best with LTE
07:06:19 PMkyoshininja RevenantOni: I see the same in both medical device and Pharma
07:06:24 PMTennessee_Frank howdy napa_polabear
07:06:39 PMDJQuad here we go with the windows hating already. lol. not surprised, just surprised it's so soon
07:06:40 PMTennessee_Frank LOL, it's Windows, it'll NEVER be ready for use. LOL
07:06:43 PMGoodGuy I didn't realize that was related to my question
07:06:57 PMKalecomm I agree with You, Tennessee Frank.
07:07:05 PMGoodGuy I thought it was explaining lower resolution
07:07:28 PMajamison5579 it seemed to be a response to both questions
07:07:31 PMTennessee_Frank DJQuad, Hate is such a mild word for how I feel about MicroSoft and Windows, LOL;-)
07:07:39 PMDJQuad lol
07:07:41 PMajamison5579 to me anyway
07:07:54 PMKalecomm I've been converting all of my clients to various versions of Ubuntu from Windows so that they escape all of the Windows nonsense!
07:08:14 PMEric1212 Hi BaileyJ
07:08:20 PM_Jot_ hi BaileyJ in the chatroom
07:08:21 PMkeckeckec Hi BaileyJ
07:08:24 PMGoodGuy Hi BaileyJ in the chat room lol
07:08:40 PMDJQuad there's room for both. if linux did everything windows does i wouldn't need to use it
07:08:40 PMTennessee_Frank I remember all those time I had to reinstall Win98 every couple of months just to keep things running smoothly.
07:08:45 PMalpeck hi Bailey
07:08:45 PM_Jot_ BaileyJ, we all miss SashaD too
07:08:46 PMDennis_Kelley Hello BaileyJ
07:09:00 PMkyoshininja Hi Bailey
07:09:02 PMajamison5579 I tried Ubuntu Unity is just horrible to me I can not deal with it Gnome 3 is less jarring but still horrible in my eyes
07:09:16 PMajamison5579 I do not have a touch screen nor will I ever have one
07:09:23 PMRevenantOni lol....Win98. I still have an old copy somewhere......used to be my favorite frisbee :)
07:09:24 PMKalecomm The ONLY thing that I use Windows for is certain games that just won't run without it. Other than that, it's crap!
07:09:31 PMTennessee_Frank BaileyJ, tell ShahaD that she does look so Cool sitting behind that big desk though.
07:09:31 PMGoodGuy Cinnamon and MATE seem pretty good
07:10:02 PMTennessee_Frank GoodGuy, I moved from MATE to Xfce but I've been looking at Cinnamon the last couple days though.
07:10:14 PMKalecomm And with Steam moving to Linux, the gaming situation is changing. I flat-out REFUSE to play anymore games that require the Windows platform.
07:10:21 PMTennessee_Frank BSOD yet??
07:10:41 PMajamison5579 Robbief I heard they skipped it because they are wanting to distance themselves from Windows 8 so users do not think it related to Windows 8 or 8.1
07:10:51 PMDennis_Kelley Hello SashaD
07:10:54 PMKalecomm ajamison5579, try Kubuntu. It's great!
07:10:54 PMGoodGuy I am using Mint 17 Cinnamon and it does everything I want
07:11:02 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: I'm still on XFCE, but thinking about gnome
07:11:08 PMMrNaturopathy Microsoft has made every other Version Horrible so I guess they decided to Skip Windows 9 so they could go from Terrible Windows 8 right into Aweful Ugly Windows 10 .
07:11:15 PMKalecomm I'm a KDE man myself! ;)
07:11:19 PMTennessee_Frank Howdy
07:11:34 PMdemo windows 10 - guarentee 10 years of support?
07:11:52 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja I kind of like the idea that Cinnamon is GNOME 3 based.
07:11:53 PMajamison5579 demo more like Windows 10 guaranteed 10 days
07:12:00 PMABQTKY 'TEN' has connotations...any vets want to comment on that?
07:12:02 PMRevenantOni nein is no in german
07:12:03 PMKalecomm LOL!
07:12:06 PMGoodGuy Nicht is also no
07:12:08 PMThorneo_ It's German
07:12:17 PMTennessee_Frank Windows is NO in any Language.
07:12:30 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: I might try that next. I have 4 systems on XFCE and two with KDE
07:12:32 PMBudda_Belly I read that Windows Nine name would cause a coding problem.
07:12:33 PMNight_Sky lol
07:12:34 PMKalecomm Again, I agree with you Tennessee Frank.
07:12:39 PMGoodGuy 10 was the prettiest girl in that movie
07:12:50 PMTennessee_Frank I love my Xfce and it works fine and all but I get bored, LOL
07:12:52 PMDJQuad windows 10 is windows 9. the reason they didn't use "9" is because of the programs that checked for windows 95 compatibility. the libraries that dumb programmers checked for was "windows 9" which checked for windows95
07:13:02 PMTennessee_Frank I AM sticking with Manjaro though, LOVE my Manjaro.
07:13:03 PM_Jot_ Nine in german sounds like Nein, which is German for 'No'
07:13:29 PMTennessee_Frank 3.8GB is hardly a CD, LOL
07:13:33 PMBudda_Belly Not sure what the issue would be.
07:13:35 PMKalecomm I still say "Nein" to Windows!
07:13:44 PMThorneo_ it looks just like some of the linux flavors that i have used in the past. Booting up that is.
07:14:06 PMTennessee_Frank isn't there something about a keylogger
07:14:13 PMGoodGuy Ask the celebs how that would work out
07:14:15 PMdirre yes
07:14:17 PM_Jot_ yeah, there is a keylogger
07:14:24 PMTennessee_Frank MicroSoft is in the NSA's back pocket
07:14:41 PMdirre everything is sent back to MS in this test
07:14:44 PMKalecomm Yeah...install the Win10 preveiw and MicroShaft puts you under a microscope!
07:14:54 PMajamison5579 Tennessee_Frank of course they are since the NSA probably runs on Windows lol
07:14:57 PMkyoshininja keyloggers, cookies, and beacons...oh my...
07:15:01 PMTennessee_Frank Just say Nein to Windows Ten,LOL
07:15:04 PMKalecomm Indeed!
07:15:11 PMdirre yes
07:15:25 PMTennessee_Frank Privacy Badger will help stop tracking cookies
07:15:29 PMABQTKY Nice, TN Frank!!!
07:15:32 PMKalecomm The ONLY thing that can save Windows in the long-term is for it to become open source.
07:15:35 PMdirre upset with microsft anyway
07:15:38 PMRevenantOni i'll say nein to Windows even in Spanish... NO
07:15:44 PMdirre and their policies
07:15:44 PMMrNaturopathy If anyone wants an Awesome Simple Linux for old hardware that just Works Q4OS is the solution in my opinion...
07:15:48 PMTennessee_Frank BOSD, BOSD, BOSD,
07:15:48 PMajamison5579 Robbief BSOD is to Windows what the Sad Mac 2 is to Mac OS
07:15:55 PMDJQuad ok well the windows hating is getting old. have a great night all
07:16:11 PMKalecomm Love Sasha's comment! BSOD!
07:16:12 PMGoodGuy Maybe VirtualBox does not support Win 10 yt
07:16:16 PMGoodGuy yet
07:16:22 PMTennessee_Frank Don't think we're missing much there RobbieF. LOL
07:16:24 PM_Jot_ Blue old screen of death?
07:16:44 PMdirre you can install wondows 10 in virtualbox
07:16:46 PMTennessee_Frank To infinity and beyond.
07:16:55 PMthezenguy making me dizzy
07:17:09 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, maybe you need to wave a dead chicken over it or something?
07:17:15 PM_Jot_ RobbieF has a problem now, his show is copied before he even can make coffee. He'll go so thirsty
07:17:15 PMajamison5579 lol
07:17:23 PMajamison5579 sarafice a goat to Balmer
07:17:25 PMKalecomm Robbie, remember it's an hour show...trying to boot Windows 10 may take longer than we have tonight!
07:17:26 PMkyoshininja DjQuad: sorry, just voicing my recent experience. Not hating.
07:17:28 PMdirre but the guest part will not install
07:17:49 PMthezenguy usb's are slow
07:18:21 PMthezenguy try running linux persistence mode on usb, sloooow
07:18:29 PMKalecomm And you expected something different from MicroShaft?!
07:18:44 PMajamison5579 Windows will only work if you Sacrafice a goat to Steve Balmer
07:18:59 PMDJQuad it's a dev copy robbie. doh
07:19:10 PM_Jot_ no wonder it didn't work, I sacrified a couple of goats and sheep to Bill Gates
07:19:12 PMTennessee_Frank I took my two 32GB SSD's that I had and put em' into external enclosures and I boot to and install Linux Distros to them to play around with.
07:19:15 PMKalecomm Yeah...how about we sacrifice Steve Balmer instead ajamison5579.
07:19:16 PMGoodGuy Will the archived show of this episode be normal quality?
07:19:18 PMdirre I can watch tonight last week the roku channel would not work with category 5 last week
07:19:23 PMajamison5579 not to mention your loading it inside a VM
07:19:24 PMTennessee_Frank Wow, super fast boot time for Windows,
07:19:25 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, yes, it will be
07:19:30 PMthezenguy RobbieF, how big can a .htaccess be and not drag server down?
07:19:33 PMGoodGuy Thanks _Jot_
07:19:43 PMajamison5579 Kalecomm Agreed I thing Windows went to hell when Bill stepped down
07:20:07 PM_Jot_ GoodGuy, they are on LTE now, so a very low quality connection, so they have to use low quality, but the show is recorded on the server in full quality, so the files will be as normal
07:20:08 PMGoodGuy Bill was there for Win ME wasn't he?
07:20:09 PMKalecomm XP was the last best Windows in my opinion.
07:20:19 PMTennessee_Frank Aunty Virus, LOL
07:20:23 PMKalecomm It's sucked more and more with every version since.
07:20:26 PMTennessee_Frank and Uncle Malware
07:20:33 PMGoodGuy I will download the normal quality
07:20:43 PMPCtweaker Sorry joined late. I installed Windows 10 in VirtualBox. It only worked when I selected defaults for Windows 8.1.
07:20:50 PMajamison5579 GoodGuy MS has a bad habit every other version of Windows can be safely skipped as it will suck case and point Win ME, Vista, 8
07:20:52 PMajamison5579 and so on
07:21:23 PMdirre I wanted to put windows 8 on my computers but microsoft said it would not install on xp computers
07:21:30 PMKalecomm Well, since they're skipping the numbering on 9 and going with 10, I think we can safely skip Win 10.
07:21:38 PMdirre they wanted me to buy new computers
07:22:26 PMdirre I instead hit the book so to speak to learn about Linux and glad i did
07:22:48 PMkyoshininja RobbieF: my wife came in and commented that she likes your hair this way better than last show (she's in the peanut gallery).
07:23:03 PMGoodGuy true ajamison5579
07:23:07 PMKalecomm Dirre, Windows Vista/7/8/8.1 all require a dual-core processor for it to be useable. Your old XP computer doesn't have that kind of power.
07:23:14 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, my wife is in Phoenix visiting her family.
07:23:40 PMKalecomm Cool, Dirre.
07:23:45 PM_Jot_ I commented earlier RobbieF looks just like an alien, since I've been playing that new game that just came out. He's bald, and drools all over stuff too.
07:24:07 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: well...best to your wife. It was fun when she visited/participated in the chat.
07:24:09 PMdirre Kalecomm: I replaced the motherboards with new current hardware
07:24:09 PMKalecomm Why do I suddenly feel ill?
07:24:25 PMNight_Sky danger will robinson!
07:24:27 PMNight_Sky lol
07:24:34 PMTennessee_Frank I make fun A LOT
07:24:37 PMMrNaturopathy boots fast. lol
07:24:37 PMKalecomm Dirre: Ah. Yeah, it'll run on newer hardware.
07:24:41 PMPC_Help A Blue Screen of Installation.
07:24:55 PMKalecomm LOL, PC_Help!
07:25:01 PMdirre I am mystified I did not have problems with the install
07:25:01 PM_Jot_ Parlez vous Francais?
07:25:03 PMthezenguy The only thing Windows is good for is making usb install drives for the neighbors.
07:25:29 PMTennessee_Frank BaileyJ, shame on you. RobbieF, you need to convert her over to Linux before it's too late.
07:25:39 PMNight_Sky windoze installation is fine.... it's the operation of it that leaves much to be desired lol
07:25:56 PMKalecomm Tennessee Frank: Absolutely! Convert that poor gal to Linux!
07:25:57 PMBaileyJ LOL, I agree.
07:26:01 PMThorneo_ RobbieF looks a lot like linux installer
07:26:08 PMalpeck this low latency is really killing the resolution
07:26:25 PMdirre is robbie installing the 32 or 64 bit
07:26:32 PMBobK54 And after waiting for 45 minutes of install goodness we end up with.....an operating system. Period.
07:26:35 PMRevenantOni that and the update system sucks. boot up. get updates. 15 minute shutdown. reboot. 15 minute shutdown. reboot. 15 minute shutdown. boot into linux.
07:26:38 PMKalecomm 0% is about the correct amount of Windows 10 we should be seeing tonight.
07:26:39 PMTennessee_Frank Kalecomm, too many Great Distros that you can get for Free. Point Linux 2.3, Manjaro(my fav) SolydX
07:26:41 PMajamison5579 dirree the technical preview is only 32bit
07:26:53 PMajamison5579 i think
07:27:02 PMajamison5579 could be wrong
07:27:16 PM_Jot_ no, there are versions for 32 bit and 64 bit, and different languages too
07:27:18 PM_Jot_ http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso
07:27:41 PMdirre both are available I could not get 64 to work used 32
07:27:45 PMKalecomm Robbie, perhaps Cat5 should just talk about Windows and not mess with it on the air.
07:28:06 PMkyoshininja What is/are the selling point(s) of Win 10?
07:28:24 PMkeckeckec kyoshininja: The number '10'
07:28:27 PMajamison5579 kysoshinninja it has a 1 and a 0 in the name
07:28:28 PMKalecomm kyoshininja: Nothing that I can see.
07:28:35 PMkyoshininja Ha!
07:28:49 PMalpeck Robbie, we can't see the screen/
07:28:53 PMTennessee_Frank I downloaded the Manjaro Minimal Net Edition. I'm going to try to "Roll My Own" Manjaro, probably with Cinnamon and then install stuff I use/need and not have all that extra stuff that I never use.
07:29:23 PMKalecomm Let us know how that goes for you, Tennessee Frank.
07:29:37 PMBudda_Belly Since I started watching Robbie on Studio D build, I stopped watching old three Stooges movies. He's funnier.
07:29:40 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: that sounds great. I want to do that on external USB for travel.
07:29:59 PMTennessee_Frank Kalecomm, will do pard. I posted a thread on the Manjaro Forums to see how I should go about it. As long as I have a Terminal on install I should be ok.
07:30:07 PM_Jot_ Budda_Belly, thats why I always watch the BSP when I can :)
07:31:02 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja, I've done a few installs onto USB and external SSD's here lately. I normally use a live boot to a DVD then install to USB/external SSD from that just to keep things simple.
07:31:18 PMNight_Sky install in less than 60 mins? LMAO
07:31:27 PMBudda_Belly _Jot_ I really feel sorry for him sometimes
07:31:28 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, wow, that news "Studio" looks very cool.
07:31:36 PMDennis_Kelley GoodGuy: hello
07:31:41 PMthezenguy You think Mickeysoft is bad, you should try iOS.
07:31:54 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: I've had to do USB to USB with my work (IT managed) Dell which doesn't have an optical disk.
07:32:07 PMthezenguy iOS reminds me of Windows 3.1.
07:32:09 PMKalecomm thezenguy: Nah! I'll stick to Linux/Android.
07:32:31 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja I've done that, I just have to double check which is the installing USB and which is the one to be installed too, LOL
07:32:33 PMthezenguy Kalecomm, that was a joke ;)
07:33:00 PMBudda_Belly ROKU buffering
07:33:09 PMajamison5579 The XboxOne clone shall be called the Ybox Two
07:33:10 PMTennessee_Frank Why would you want to when it's so easy to build a SteamOS box???
07:33:12 PMthezenguy mine doing good.
07:33:17 PMKalecomm My ROKU is doing quite well.
07:33:30 PMBudda_Belly Huh
07:33:44 PMTennessee_Frank Kalecomm, same here, Roku is working well tonight, of course now I've jinked it,LOL
07:33:55 PMkyoshininja Roku has been stable, no buffering so far.
07:34:12 PMBudda_Belly Three times for me
07:34:26 PMkyoshininja Roku is just a bit blurry due to low resolution of the LTE hotspot RobbieF is using.
07:34:33 PM_Jot_ I think it depends on what roku servers you happen to connect to
07:34:37 PMKalecomm kyoshininja: Mine's stable, too.
07:34:39 PM_Jot_ about the buffering
07:35:38 PMMrNaturopathy this is the first time my Roku did not Buffer even once. Im Happy so far...
07:35:40 PMBudda_Belly I don't usually have a problem
07:35:44 PMthezenguy Spint bout to go under too.
07:35:49 PMthezenguy Sprint...
07:35:51 PMABQTKY Hey, RobbieF, do you have somedody standing on the roof holding that LTE gizmo over his head?
07:35:54 PMRevenantOni I've noticed my Roku buffers more often if I'm downloading tons of crap, or otherwise if the bandwidth is being hogged elsewhere.
07:36:28 PM_Jot_ ABQTKY, yeah, and if people have issues, that person has to run around on the roof to try to catch all the packets
07:36:36 PMTennessee_Frank1 Well, Roku was doing fine but Interweb connection went down.
07:36:57 PMthezenguy how man times you test that ShellShock bug? i wonder how long it been around.
07:37:04 PMBudda_Belly The only thing I have going is ROKU and this chat
07:37:13 PMdirre I'm only up to the spiderman episode
07:37:19 PM_Jot_ you can get the mugs from http://shop.category5.tv and if you just want to give some money, http://cat5.tv/c
07:37:37 PMKalecomm RevenantOni: What kind of bandwidth do you have? Time Warner Cable just upgraded my internet last July to 100Mbps.
07:37:40 PMTennessee_Frank1 Mug for the camera
07:37:57 PMTennessee_Frank1 LOL
07:38:02 PMthezenguy i don't see banners :-\
07:38:04 PMKalecomm LOL!
07:38:08 PM_Jot_ RobbieF has quite a mug
07:38:16 PMTennessee_Frank1 RobbieF so have you got my stickers mailed out yet????
07:38:19 PMkyoshininja SashaD: LOL!
07:38:23 PMkeckeckec Kalecomm: what bandwidth do you actually get?
07:38:42 PMTennessee_Frank1 I could have done an entire Majaro install by now.
07:38:46 PMTennessee_Frank1 Manjaro
07:38:56 PMdirre the william Tell 1812 overture
07:39:20 PMthezenguy Manjaro good, but I prefer debian jessie with xfce. don't know why they switched back to gnome, it broke.
07:39:27 PMTennessee_Frank1 TWiT has a program now about learning how to program. Shannon Morse from Hak5 is on it.
07:39:43 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: I agree. Manjaro has a clean timely install (both gui and CLI)
07:39:48 PMKalecomm keckeckec: Depends on which router I use. The one closest to the Cable Modem actually gives me between 99Mbps and 110Mbps. If I use this machine which is connected by a second router, I usually top out at about 90Mbps.
07:39:52 PMTennessee_Frank1 Debian is ok but I really love pacman and having the AUR.
07:40:16 PMkeckeckec That's great, Kalecomm. Around here people don't get anywher near what they're promised
07:40:19 PMthezenguy Manjaro is good, but I didn't like that AUR stuff.
07:40:49 PMTennessee_Frank1 AUR has ANY and EVERY package you'd ever want the second it comes out. Can't get much better then that
07:40:53 PMKalecomm Keckeckec: Well, I live near Austin, TX and Google Fiber is coming to town. That's why.
07:40:57 PMajamison5579 Robbief you need to buy yourself one of those color changing mugs on your store to show off
07:40:58 PMthezenguy Yeah, that's how I roll. Learn it in 24 hours :-p
07:41:11 PMkeckeckec Kalecomm: Ahh That explains it
07:41:16 PMdirre I had to wash my mouth with soap TWIT was so dirty today
07:41:24 PMTennessee_Frank1 DJQuad, you have a Roku, right?
07:41:42 PMDJQuad yep 3 of em
07:42:07 PMTennessee_Frank1 Install TWiT and check out the programing show
07:42:21 PMTennessee_Frank1 IIRC they started with Python but still, it's a start.
07:42:55 PMdirre I like watching Robbie's show it is so nice and clean
07:43:00 PMTennessee_Frank1 They started at the very beginning too.
07:43:10 PMDJQuad yeah i'm thinking php, perl, or even ruby
07:43:56 PMDJQuad thanks robbie
07:44:16 PMthezenguy i can scrap with php or perl :-\
07:44:44 PM_Jot_ RobbieF, don't forget you always use 1234 as a password so you can at least remember it
07:44:59 PMKalecomm He means "regress" instead of "progress", right?
07:45:48 PMTennessee_Frank1 RobbieF, don't forget to install an Anti-Virus.
07:45:58 PMonewanman1 it it my PC HD card or is the stream fuzzy
07:46:06 PMKalecomm Turn it off! Turn it off! It said that it's screwing things up for us!
07:46:14 PM_Jot_ the stream is in low quality, so it does appear somewhat fuzzy to some
07:46:17 PMdirre Robbie you should be almost sone
07:46:19 PMkyoshininja Good luck DJQuad. You might want to check out lynda.com and linuxacademy online software training
07:46:22 PMdirre done
07:46:28 PMTennessee_Frank1 It's more like Linux, that's the ONLY thing that's cool about Windows 10
07:46:37 PMonewanman1 thanks Jot
07:47:11 PMTennessee_Frank They're catching up to Linux, LOL
07:47:18 PMRevenantOni well...at least they ditched the "Metro" BS
07:47:19 PMDJQuad windows 10 has its on antivirus, which pissed off companies like norton
07:47:32 PMDJQuad own*
07:47:47 PMKalecomm Yeah...Win 10 is supposed to have, <*gasp*>! virtual workspaces! Linux has had since what, 1996?
07:47:53 PMdirre I am in the minority in that wondows 10 looks like they took windows 7 and windows 8 poured in an cake pan baked it and windows 20 came out of the cake pan
07:47:57 PM_Jot_ they should be worried, microsoft bought mcafee, and mcafee and norton are the worst antivirus companies out there
07:47:58 PMdirre 10
07:48:11 PMDJQuad thanks kyoshininja i will
07:48:17 PMGoodGuy Dexpot has multiple desktops for Windows..free
07:48:19 PM_Jot_ windows has had virtual workspaces since windows 95
07:48:19 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, you really need to get BaileyJ over to a good Linux Distro and show her what a REAL op system looks like.
07:48:27 PMKalecomm Jot: I agree whole-heartedly!
07:48:39 PMGoodGuy Might be spelled incorrectly
07:48:44 PMKalecomm Tennessee Frank: Indeed!
07:48:46 PMthezenguy Windows always seem to hang or take a long time with simple task like unzipping large files or copying big files to usb.
07:48:49 PMdirre how long has Linux had mutiple desktops standard
07:49:03 PMPC_Help Does windows 10 categorize the start menu yet, like Linux does?
07:49:06 PMTennessee_Frank She can even dual boot for a while until she get's use to running Linux.
07:49:06 PM_Jot_ linux always has had multiple desktops, because of x-windows
07:49:11 PM_Jot_ plus multiple consoles
07:49:30 PMRevenantOni yeah...i remember multiple desktops way back when i was using Mandrake 5
07:49:38 PMKalecomm dirre: I've been using since 2002 and Linux has had virtual desktops since at least then.
07:49:45 PMDennis_Kelley is roku stream working yet?
07:49:59 PM_Jot_ Dennis_Kelley, it is the only video-stream being used, so yeah, definatly
07:50:22 PMkyoshininja Dennis_Kelley: roku has been stable for me, just a bit out of focus due to bandwidth limitations, but stable.
07:50:27 PMTennessee_Frank Dennis_Kelley, Roku has been solid, my interweb connection hasn't been though.
07:50:31 PMNight_Sky linux has had multiple desktops since before 1998 when Windows 95 first introduced me to Red Hat lol
07:50:54 PMGoodGuy http://dexpot.de/
07:51:06 PMGoodGuy free multiple desktops on window
07:51:19 PMTennessee_Frank Why is copy and paste into Terminal such a big deal. I've been doing that since day one with Linux.
07:51:23 PMalpeck your window is cracked
07:51:43 PMDJQuad oh sorry i missed your msg TN. yeah i watch twit regularly. i need to go back to padre's old coding 101 episodes
07:52:08 PMRevenantOni was that just a mashup of metro and a start menu? o_O
07:52:34 PMTennessee_Frank DJQuad, that's the show, Coding 101. Looked interesting enough.
07:52:39 PMDennis_Kelley Tennessee_Frank is important to Windows 10 because they can now be like Linux
07:52:49 PMTennessee_Frank I always love watching Security Now with Steve Gibson.
07:52:55 PMPCtweaker I love the wallpaper they chose. It looks like the screens broken:-)
07:53:17 PMKalecomm PCtweaker: Indeed! That's EXACTLY what I thought!
07:53:27 PMDJQuad he seems so cranky. john c dvorak is my favorite :)
07:53:31 PMTennessee_Frank Ditto, UGLY
07:53:43 PMGoodGuy What is Number One?
07:54:06 PMTennessee_Frank Steve is pretty cool from what I've seen, he explains stuff so that even I can understand it, LOL
07:54:17 PMTennessee_Frank 5 stars from me.
07:54:41 PMTennessee_Frank At least until this Windows Show, LOL
07:54:48 PMPCtweaker Kalecomm: They want to keep expectations low, LOL
07:54:50 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: is Steve Gibson available on roku?
07:54:52 PMonewanman1 what program is john c dvorak on now
07:55:01 PMGoodGuy It might be wise to lose the Windows bashing to make this show grow
07:55:03 PMDJQuad that's why we're here robbie ;)
07:55:08 PMTennessee_Frank kyoshininja yep, Security Now on TWiT.
07:55:21 PMkyoshininja Tennessee_Frank: thanks...
07:55:27 PMGoodGuy Why not welcome everyone instead of only Linux fans
07:55:27 PMTennessee_Frank NP Pard
07:55:30 PMDJQuad @goodguy i completely agree
07:55:34 PMTennessee_Frank RobbieF, stickers????
07:55:35 PMKalecomm GoodGuy: Windows bashing? We weren't bashing Windows, we were just being honest!
07:55:55 PMdirre the difference is that Robbie has a nice clean show robbir e does not talk about male anatomy on air like the other network did today
07:55:56 PMGoodGuy Only in your opinion to be fair Kalecomm
07:56:10 PMdirre HOO bOY
07:56:16 PMKalecomm GoodGuy: Mine and many, many more!
07:56:17 PMGoodGuy If Windows works for them, who are we to judge
07:56:19 PMNight_Sky I started on windows.... loved it (since windows 98se anyways and xp was good)
07:56:36 PMGoodGuy How many Windows users vs Linux users Kalecomm ?
07:57:05 PMGoodGuy Alienate a large majority... makes no sense to me
07:57:12 PMKalecomm GoodGuy: True. If it works for them, fine. I just don't support them. Windows 8/8.1/10 just isn't in my wheelhouse.
07:57:13 PMthezenguy RobbieF, http://hardtodetect.com/linux/usb-flash-drive-repair/
07:57:21 PMRobbieF Thanks!
07:57:25 PMPCtweaker I'm greatful for MS Windows. It's kept me employed for almost 25 years now.
07:57:25 PMDJQuad windows is great. linux is great. they each have their uses, strengths, and weaknesses. the bashing of either just seems so petty
07:57:30 PMTennessee_Frank My buddy in Phoenix, AZ is a hardcore Windows 7 user. Tried to move him over to Linux but he's just not willing to learn or change so what can I do.
07:57:35 PMthezenguy Won't work though if usb flash is write protected, I never solved that one.
07:57:41 PMnapa_polarbear setup pigin
07:57:48 PMTennessee_Frank Stickers????
07:57:54 PMajamison5579 Robbief How much wood would a wood chuck, chuck if a Wood chuck could chuck wood?
07:58:10 PMTennessee_Frank BaileyJ, ask RobbieF if he's mailed out my stickers yet??
07:58:31 PMGoodGuy Thats fine.. I have two Windows versions installed and four Linux distros on this PC... not counting several Puppy flavors within Windows and more Linux installs in VirtualBox
07:58:35 PMnapa_polarbear setup pidgin
07:58:36 PMKalecomm RobbieF, have you mailed out Tennessee Frank's stickers yet? :)
07:58:44 PMthezenguy I believe my problems with USB originated from that YUMI program. I wouldn't use it.
07:59:00 PMTennessee_Frank They're the last stickers that I need to finish my laptops
07:59:05 PMRevenantOni primarily, Windows lacks malleability IMO. I can't see paying so much money for a product I can't change to suit my needs. Sort of like buying a muscle car, but Chevy says you're not allowed to do a motor swap.
07:59:05 PMGoodGuy Not like I don't Linux... I also use Windows and like that also
07:59:15 PMTennessee_Frank If he just needs a photo he can use Screen Shot
07:59:26 PMTennessee_Frank Crop it and remove the meta data
07:59:40 PMGoodGuy If we push away Windows users, RobbieF's viewers will be less than it could be
07:59:46 PMGuest_6965 http://www.google.com.ph/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.screencast-o-matic.com%2F&ei=aX40VJOkOdGOuAS6yYCoAQ&usg=AFQjCNFrZzPHzS6ApjBMZEYoQtxrV4xREw&sig2=Q4VFiPAW-F5G1B2mr20cLw&bvm=bv.76943099,d.c2E try this
08:00:19 PMKalecomm Understood, GoodGuy.
08:00:21 PMTennessee_Frank Why would you want to swap out a Chevy motor for something else, LOL
08:00:30 PMGoodGuy Plus Windows addons and utilities earn many people a good living
08:00:34 PMTennessee_Frank Build a good 383 small block and have fun.
08:00:39 PMDJQuad it's as petty as the age-old debate for the last 30 years - mac vs pc. both sides should pipe down and stop being such fanboys
08:00:40 PMRevenantOni change the 350 for a 454!
08:00:49 PMnapa_polarbear setup pidgin
08:01:22 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: swap Chevy for Warp Engines
08:01:28 PMTennessee_Frank LOL
08:01:42 PMTennessee_Frank Don't know if that's NHRA legal though.
08:01:51 PMTennessee_Frank Poor SashaD sitting there all alone.
08:01:59 PMPCtweaker It's Robbie's inclusiveness that has kept this life long Windows user (after the Commodore 64 of course) coming back every week.
08:02:33 PMBobK54 interesting show about some strange OS I never heard about! :)
08:02:42 PMBobK54 night all
08:02:50 PMTennessee_Frank Night BobK54
08:02:57 PMthezenguy Windows is dead, and Desktop Office Suites are dead.
08:02:58 PMBudda_Belly Bye all
08:03:12 PMWhiskey_Zero RobbieF The show worked perfect on Roku! See you next week.
08:03:15 PMthezenguy I don't even use the free Office programs.
08:03:25 PMNight_Sky great show! Thanks :o)
08:03:30 PMTennessee_Frank Need to go see what's on the TV and get a cold beer and some meds for my cold, LOL
08:03:39 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: do you run linux?
08:03:52 PM_Jot_ Tennessee_Frank, enjoy drining your meds and eating your beer
08:03:54 PMTennessee_Frank I got the sniffles real bad on Thursday and I'm still trying to shake it.
08:04:04 PMthezenguy Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux
08:04:07 PMkyoshininja Tennesse_Frank: hope you feel better....
08:04:08 PMTennessee_Frank It's a generic version of DayQuil
08:04:17 PMRevenantOni Tennessee_Frank: double shot of vodka with a bunch of crushed red pepper. slug it, wrap tight in blanket. will sweat it all out
08:04:19 PMTennessee_Frank Seems to take the edge off a bit.
08:04:41 PMGoodGuy I wonder if all the linux systems together would equal the number of users still running WinXP.. no longer sold or supported
08:04:46 PMRevenantOni it's an old Russian trick my ex-wife taught me. works really well.....and is an excuse to buy vodka
08:04:48 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: nice. If you don't use the free office programs, what do you use instead?
08:04:52 PMDJQuad great show as always robbie. fastest hour of my week. it was a bit of a turn-off with all the windows bashing, we get you're a linux guy but it did seem petty. it won't of course stop me being a fan tho. i'm here every week
08:04:57 PMDennis_Kelley see ya Tennessee_Frank
08:05:03 PMTennessee_Frank RevenantOni, I had some white beans with plenty of red crushed pepper in em' the other night and it actually upset my stomach
08:05:07 PMTennessee_Frank See ya DK
08:05:15 PMGoodGuy A lot of potential viewer to ignore
08:05:21 PMGoodGuy viewers
08:05:24 PMTennessee_Frank I've been trying to go easy on the spicy food since then.
08:05:29 PMthezenguy mousepad, vi and sublime text. if i have to fill out a form it's usually a supplied pdf.
08:05:48 PMthezenguy if not, google docs works good.
08:05:58 PMTennessee_Frank Had a really rough night Sunday night. Keep having crazy dreams, guess they were Fever Dreams because I had the chills and stuf.
08:06:13 PMGoodGuy Tennessee_Frank - You don't meet our son... he grows some of the hottest peppers in the world
08:06:15 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: I see, unfortunately, most of my colleagues use an office suite, and I try to be compatible with their file formats.
08:06:47 PMTennessee_Frank Not really into "hot", just like something flavorful.
08:06:55 PMDJQuad focus on the strengths of linux rather than complaining about windows like it was brussels sprouts when you were a kid. lol
08:07:17 PMGoodGuy He and many others consider that flavorful lol
08:07:18 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: I would use google docs, but I'm concerned about the security of storing stuff on the google cloud.
08:07:35 PMdatamangler a couple more version of "Windows" and it will be no more.
08:07:37 PMthezenguy kyoshininja, the local schools use google now.
08:07:41 PMTennessee_Frank I've had peppers so hot that they make your tongue numb and you can't taste anything afterwards, LOL
08:07:56 PMRevenantOni yeah...that's a bit TOO hot
08:08:06 PMTennessee_Frank The worst one was a little Tai Pepper in some Chinese food that I had once.
08:08:17 PMGoodGuy The super hot ones can cause some real problems lol
08:08:18 PMRevenantOni I LOVE hot and spicy food, but not at the sacrifice of flavor
08:08:28 PMDJQuad lol TN me too. it's too hot when all you taste is pain
08:08:37 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: I think the same here for some schools. However, I don't want to have proprietary/client data stored in the cloud.
08:08:39 PMthezenguy kyoshininja, with google I would not use primary account though. get another one for online stuff.
08:08:44 PMTennessee_Frank Oh well, I'm going to get out of here. I'll catch ya'll later. Have a great rest of the week.
08:08:57 PMRevenantOni if you have to contemplate putting TP in the freezer....DON'T EAT IT
08:08:58 PM_Jot_ you too Tennessee_Frank, feel better
08:09:06 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: great advice. I haven't thought about that.
08:09:10 PMDJQuad you too TN. have a great week
08:09:12 PMTennessee_Frank Thanks _Jot_ see ya'
08:09:19 PMkyoshininja Tennesee_Frank: have a good night.
08:09:40 PMthezenguy kyoshininja, goog allows switching account now. pretty easy.
08:10:04 PMRevenantOni i've been trying to move away from Google....easier said than done. epsecially with the android phone
08:10:11 PMkyoshininja thezenguy: thanks, I certainly will try that out. I definitely have a need.
08:10:36 PMPCtweaker I work for a high school, and we've migrated the students to Google Docs with Gmail accounts, but staff still use PCs or Macs. Works great (as long as the Internet doesn't go down).
08:11:28 PMkyoshininja have a great night all....
08:11:31 PMkyoshininja c ya next time.
08:11:52 PMDJQuad see ya all. take care
08:11:52 PMGoodGuy Smokin' Ed's Carolina Reaper - World's Hottest Pepper
08:12:00 PMthezenguy later ;)
08:12:01 PMRevenantOni do schools even allow kids to use pencils and paper anymore? or are they afraid those can be used as weapons?
08:12:07 PMGoodGuy Thats the hottest pepper in the world... so far
08:12:39 PMRevenantOni half the cats I know with kids in school have said that everything is iPad this and laptop that. they don't even teach cursive writing anymore
08:13:03 PMGoodGuy Do you read Linux Journal PCtweaker ?
08:13:16 PMRobbieF We did it! :)
08:13:29 PMGoodGuy Shawn Powers works for a local school system last I heard
08:13:44 PMthezenguy RevenantOni, they got problems but i don't pay it no attention. Just wish them good luck when you kick them out the nest ;)
08:13:46 PMdatamangler good show Robbie
08:14:38 PMABQTKY RobbieF, looked good to me! The New York State motto is Excelsior, onward and upward for Category5 Technology TV!!
08:14:41 PMthezenguy thanks guy, hexchat worked out great. after I adjusted the fonts size and colors.
08:15:12 PMthezenguy that port number on cat5 site didn't work though, i used default on freenode.
08:15:36 PMthezenguy typo?
08:15:38 PMGoodGuy I like HexChat ease of use to setup SSL encryption
08:16:00 PMthezenguy i didn't fool with ssl, they going to publish this anyway.
08:16:11 PMGoodGuy FreeNode accepts self signed certificates
08:16:49 PMGoodGuy I just liked playing with it and it made logging into Nickserv easy
08:17:18 PMthezenguy i don't login, that's one advantage of irc.
08:17:36 PMthezenguy hate every site you come to that requires logins.
08:17:44 PMGoodGuy You use Nickserv to reserve your nickname on IRC
08:18:12 PMGoodGuy Otherwise another moron could offend people and pretend to be you
08:18:19 PMthezenguy i tried it once, but it disappeared. i guess cause I didn't login or maybe forgot pwd.
08:18:22 PMRobbieF I'm off all.
08:18:25 PMRobbieF have a great night!!
08:18:27 PMRobbieF time to go buy chairs
08:18:38 PMGoodGuy You have to register it with Nickserv
08:18:39 PMRobbieF ... BIG blowout until 9pm (it's 8:20)
08:18:43 PMGWG GoodGuy: I use StartSSL certificates
08:18:52 PMGoodGuy Type /msg Nickserv Help
08:18:58 PMthezenguy GoodGuy, I did that once. It worked a few times then it didn't work.
08:19:14 PMRobbieF Good night.

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