06:58:08 PM | _Jot_ | Hillary could do sign language at least, so it would be sensible to some
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06:58:40 PM | _Jot_ | There totally is no script (paper)! The paper is a lie, I bet
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07:00:06 PM | SashaD | The paper is a lie
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07:00:40 PM | _Jot_ | newsflash: RobbieF claims he can think. That is new.
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07:02:21 PM | _Jot_ | streaming videos from security-cameras has been happening for years already, tht
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07:02:24 PM | _Jot_ | not really news :)
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07:02:42 PM | _Jot_ | the last thing wasn't really new either, forgot what it was :)
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07:03:44 PM | _Jot_ | I tried paying attention, but I couldn't afford the interest
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07:03:48 PM | SashaD | Hey judgy judgerson jot
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07:05:12 PM | _Jot_ | The affiliate links are here: http://www.category5.tv/affiliate-links.php but I just shop through http://shop.category5.tv and send leftover money to http://cat5.tv/c
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07:05:35 PM | SashaD | You are awesome :)
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07:06:25 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF, did you figure out why certain files wouldn't work last time?
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07:06:50 PM | napa_polarbear | hello All
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07:07:28 PM | KelseyJ | welcome!
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07:07:35 PM | _Jot_ | the enquiring public just wants to know :)
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07:07:54 PM | _Jot_ | at least sometime, so next week or so is fine
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07:08:47 PM | Nick-devalda | Hey people. Good luck 😊
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07:09:05 PM | tic-toc | Why doesn't web based chat room work on Chrome?
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07:09:31 PM | Nick-devalda | im using chrome on an ipad
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07:09:48 PM | Nick-devalda | seems fine
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07:10:07 PM | tic-toc | The show works but the chat room doesn't
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07:10:10 PM | _Jot_ | Not sure, it should work, but it may be they changed something, at least there are other browsers, and you can use an IRC client as well
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07:11:19 PM | _Jot_ | so that link for fancybox is http://fancyapps.com
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07:12:14 PM | tic-toc | I'm on my windows machine and chat room only works on IE
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07:12:20 PM | Nick-devalda | its just computers, they pretend to be your friend then..... When ur not looking.... Bam!
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07:13:14 PM | SashaD | I agree wholeheartedly nick devalda
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07:14:37 PM | tic-toc | Computers are like women... they pretend to be your friend, then BAM...lol
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07:14:49 PM | SashaD | Hey :(
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07:15:05 PM | tic-toc | :)
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07:15:21 PM | SashaD | :p
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07:15:43 PM | Nick-devalda | 😃 women don't hibernate or turn off
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07:16:23 PM | tic-toc | Evidently you haven't met my ex....
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07:16:55 PM | SashaD | Oh dear...
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07:17:09 PM | tic-toc | :)
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07:17:18 PM | SashaD | So... How's the weather (obvious subject change)
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07:18:01 PM | tic-toc | It's as cold as my ex... :)
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07:20:19 PM | SashaD | Tic to.... I'm sending you tons of positive happiness :)
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07:20:22 PM | Nick-devalda | fancybox..... Sounds so wrong lol
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07:20:53 PM | _Jot_ | it is about 5c here, so summer-weather for you :)
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07:20:59 PM | tic-toc | Why thank you Sasha,
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07:22:02 PM | Nick-devalda | its 12:21am here in the uk, so it's cooooold and dark.
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07:22:36 PM | SashaD | It's-3 here, and snowing yet again
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07:23:51 PM | _Jot_ | RobbieF couldn't afford paying the co-hosts, they are invaluable
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07:24:14 PM | KelseyJ | Why thank you Jot :)
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07:24:44 PM | SashaD | Aww... Thanks :)
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07:26:45 PM | JoeInNH | Hello Everyone!
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07:27:03 PM | KelseyJ | Hello!
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07:27:49 PM | JoeInNH | I am talking on IRC on my newly installed arch linux on my very old P4 HP Pavillion laptop
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07:28:11 PM | SashaD | Nice!!
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07:28:13 PM | JoeInNH | It's really quiet in here tonight
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07:28:28 PM | JoeInNH | I haven't got the video working yet.
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07:28:40 PM | JoeInNH | So that is running on my Win7 machine
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07:29:08 PM | _Jot_ | the address is http://live.cat5.tv
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07:29:30 PM | Nick-devalda | Im in bed, watching on Roku, my wife is snoring by there <------ so glad I got an ipad
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07:30:23 PM | _Jot_ | I have a question. What question should I ask?
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07:30:40 PM | KelseyJ | Thats a very good question
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07:30:55 PM | KelseyJ | you should ask all of them
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07:31:07 PM | KelseyJ | Just ask every question
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07:31:15 PM | JoeInNH | I wonder if TNFrank is burried in snow
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07:31:19 PM | _Jot_ | I already know the answer to the question of life, the universe and everything though
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07:31:19 PM | RobbieF | Wooooo!
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07:31:20 PM | RobbieF | hehe
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07:31:22 PM | RobbieF | having fun?
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07:31:46 PM | _Jot_ | wait, we're supposed to drink coffee? Darn, I made tea
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07:32:00 PM | JoeInNH | I have having loads of fun. Now I am 100% watching and chating on Arch Linux E19
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07:32:22 PM | JoeInNH | I drink, but not coffee, so I am with you
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07:32:29 PM | Nick-devalda | Tea? Tequila is good for the soul
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07:32:55 PM | _Jot_ | hey, that's the same combination as I use on my luggage!
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07:33:08 PM | tic-toc | Tequila is a good paint stripper
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07:33:35 PM | Nick-devalda | its awesome at everything
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07:34:07 PM | tic-toc | awesome for a hangover, I know that for a fact
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07:34:53 PM | JoeInNH | This question is directed to everyone using linux. What irc clients are you using?
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07:35:21 PM | Nick-devalda | such a simple solution to the webcam issue but people trust hardware when they purchase it and don't feel the necessity to add security measures. Education is the way forward
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07:37:28 PM | Nick-devalda | maybe it's not hackers, u can download 3rd party software to use a webcam over the net and 'trust' the makers not to abuse their position
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07:39:02 PM | _Jot_ | Free isn't always bad, I download free episodes of the free website category5.tv all the time!
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07:40:50 PM | Nick-devalda | Free is virtually non existent when it's a non trusted source lol.
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07:41:27 PM | _Jot_ | yeah, a non-trusted source isn't very good :) but its hard to determine who to trust on the net
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07:42:40 PM | tic-toc | sell it
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07:43:21 PM | Nick-devalda | Well? Given that u can't even trust Microsoft 😝
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07:43:52 PM | tic-toc | You can't trust any of them
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07:44:09 PM | Nick-devalda | There's a company called trust..... Hmmmmmm
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07:44:19 PM | _Jot_ | google blocking ads for pay is a lie, you still see all the ads, they just say 'thank you for paying'
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07:52:15 PM | Guest_5763 | Microsoft charges 7 bucks for Mindcraft after my nephews got hooked on it.
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07:52:43 PM | _Jot_ | Mindcraft hasn't been free for a very long time?
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07:52:56 PM | SashaD | Nothing is free :(
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07:53:32 PM | _Jot_ | we can see you sometimes for almost free, thanks for that :)
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07:53:56 PM | JoeInNH | Try Minetest
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07:54:04 PM | JoeInNH | It is free
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07:54:26 PM | JoeInNH | You get to decide what you install for mods
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07:54:29 PM | Nick-devalda | Climb trees...... It's free.
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07:54:33 PM | Guest_5763 | oh i didnt know that. I just know a few months ago he was playing. But today he said he can no longer play
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07:55:05 PM | Guest_5763 | minetest will do
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07:56:00 PM | SashaD | I'm happy to give my time for free, because the pay off of having such a great community of friends makes it more than worth it
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07:56:08 PM | SashaD | Then I climb trees
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07:56:29 PM | _Jot_ | don't lick the tree though, its too cold for that
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07:56:52 PM | Nick-devalda | I woke up at the top of a tree after a night out 😊
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07:57:15 PM | _Jot_ | sounds like you had an interesting night
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07:57:24 PM | SashaD | Really?! That's insanely impressive
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07:57:30 PM | JoeInNH | Anybody see the pictures of upstate New Yorks snow?
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07:57:37 PM | Nick-devalda | i wish I remembered more tho
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07:58:02 PM | JoeInNH | Were you with friends? They might be able to show you pics
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07:58:11 PM | tic-toc | tequila does it every time
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07:58:30 PM | Nick-devalda | i was in Holland.... Explains a lot
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07:58:57 PM | tic-toc | Did you wake up wearing wooden shoes too?
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07:58:58 PM | _Jot_ | maybe thats why they got rid of trees in much of my city
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07:59:25 PM | _Jot_ | nah, he climbed away when we tried to put them on him, and we didn't bother staying around
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07:59:55 PM | JoeInNH | Did you climb over to see over the dikes?
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08:00:05 PM | JoeInNH | To see the water
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08:00:05 PM | Nick-devalda | lol, I am such a hippy
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08:00:21 PM | Guest_5763 | Is Mate a low resource desktop?
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08:00:56 PM | Nick-devalda | goodnight peeps, I got work in 6 hours :)
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08:00:58 PM | JoeInNH | Currently, I am using Enlightenment. I know that Cinnamon and gnome 3 are not
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08:00:59 PM | _Jot_ | its a continuation of gnome 2, so not too bad
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08:01:25 PM | SashaD | Have a great week chat room :)
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08:01:27 PM | Whiskey_Zero | Thanks Robbie, see everybody next week.
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08:01:30 PM | JoeInNH | I haven't tried mate yet on my ancient computer
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08:01:31 PM | tic-toc | Yes Mate is pretty low
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08:01:32 PM | _Jot_ | you too SashaD
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08:01:43 PM | JoeInNH | You too SashaD
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08:02:12 PM | Guest_5763 | I have pinguy on my laptop but it is just not powerful enough
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08:02:36 PM | JoeInNH | I am stuck with the open source drivers for my video becuase the onboard graphics is so old
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08:02:58 PM | JoeInNH | If mate doesn't work, try enlightenment
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08:03:09 PM | Guest_5763 | okay
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08:03:10 PM | tic-toc | Point Linux works well on older hardware for me
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08:03:39 PM | JoeInNH | I am using that on my Pentium 4 with Radeon 9600 Turbo Pro (rv350/m10 chhipset)
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08:04:27 PM | JoeInNH | Since it's a laptop, I can't replace the ancient graphics driver.
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08:04:46 PM | Guest_5763 | I may try point tonight this rebooting is getting old
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08:04:52 PM | tic-toc | You might want to check, amd graphics cards are trouble sometimes
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08:06:00 PM | JoeInNH | If it is old like mine, the open source drivers may be your only bet. What is the onboard graphics card?
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08:08:10 PM | Guest_5763 | intel gm45
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08:09:56 PM | JoeInNH | nvidia?
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08:11:26 PM | ABQTKY | To anyone down here in the USA, have a great Thanksgiving Day! To everyone else - youse guys should also have a great Thanksgiving Day!!
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08:12:10 PM | tic-toc | version 1.0.7 for that intel
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08:12:18 PM | JoeInNH | you to ab
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08:12:47 PM | JoeInNH | According to online intel seems to support open source drivers pretty well
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08:13:18 PM | ABQTKY | NH, eh? That's definitely back there in civilization!! 8-)
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08:13:45 PM | JoeInNH | Where are you ab?
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08:14:13 PM | ABQTKY | Albuquerque, NM...but FROM Noo Yawk State.
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08:15:28 PM | JoeInNH | I think I can forgive you being a New Yorker... ;)
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08:16:32 PM | JoeInNH | NM nice this time of the year?
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08:17:08 PM | ABQTKY | Thanks, Joe. Could be worse. I'm from not far from Noo Joizey. Cold enough for me out here. As they say, 'it's a dry cold.'
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08:18:59 PM | JoeInNH | lol. First big storm Wed into early T-Day
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08:19:16 PM | ABQTKY | Enjoy. 8-|
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08:19:29 PM | JoeInNH | Cold huh...what is it 50?
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08:19:53 PM | JoeInNH | Thanks, I will only have to shovel if I am at my parents house
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08:20:15 PM | ABQTKY | Late afternoon it could be up in the 50's. Not early AM, though.
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08:20:39 PM | JoeInNH | And then I can use a nice big snow blower...strong enough to handle this wet snow
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08:21:08 PM | JoeInNH | 40s & 50s is shorts weather up here right now
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08:21:35 PM | ABQTKY | Wet snow is hard to deal with. But with the blower you may get less of it down the back of your neck.
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08:22:03 PM | RobbieF | Well, that was fun.
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08:22:04 PM | JoeInNH | Yeah. It's odd to have wet snow this early in the season.
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08:22:14 PM | JoeInNH | Great job robbie
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08:22:30 PM | ABQTKY | Robbie, the snow or the PHP stuff??
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08:23:26 PM | JoeInNH | Hey robbie, if you ever need a topic for a show, you can do a show on Minetest. It's an opensource game "inspired by Minecraft" that runs on windows, linux, and I think Mac
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08:24:21 PM | JoeInNH | no=now
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08:24:36 PM | ABQTKY | Good.
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08:25:02 PM | JoeInNH | Arch was not as hard to install as I thought it would be.
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08:25:17 PM | JoeInNH | Just required a lot of reading and research
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08:26:46 PM | ABQTKY | I have Arch on an ARM device, not on a 'normal' computer.
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08:27:31 PM | JoeInNH | I wanted to learn what was going on, so installing arch was less of a headache than trying to install gentoo
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08:28:55 PM | JoeInNH | I would not try to install it if it was my only computer
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08:29:14 PM | ABQTKY | Everything has to be done on the ARM device (TO the ARM device?) via command line. Makes for a very slow, but hopefully effective learning experience.
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08:32:43 PM | JoeInNH | I like the command line. I still use pacman / packer to install stuff on my system
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08:32:57 PM | JoeInNH | I research online then grab the packackage
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08:34:06 PM | ABQTKY | I'm about as skilled with a Linux command line as I was with CP/M...which is to say 'forget about it!'
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