06:58:27 PM | JoeInNH | Hey DJ
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06:58:37 PM | JoeInNH | Hi Robbie & Sasha
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06:58:38 PM | DJQuad | when's sasha gonna review her roku? :)
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06:58:43 PM | RobbieF | Hi JoeInNH
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06:58:46 PM | MovieBuff | @RobbieF cool
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06:58:54 PM | RobbieF | DJQuad we gotta buy her one :)
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06:59:03 PM | RobbieF | she was waiting for the new ones to come out.
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06:59:06 PM | RobbieF | So... any time :)
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06:59:27 PM | DJQuad | new ones??
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06:59:49 PM | RobbieF | yep
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06:59:52 PM | RobbieF | faster, better strong faster.
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06:59:54 PM | RobbieF | :)
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07:00:31 PM | DJQuad | what's new? (nm i'll google it. i know you're getting ready for the show. lol)
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07:00:43 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Anyone in Michigan going to the Penquicon in Southfield this weekend
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07:00:59 PM | JoeInNH | Robbie you should show Sasha the coolness of avant window navigator
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07:01:05 PM | RobbieF | :)
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07:01:31 PM | RobbieF | How's Roku?
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07:01:32 PM | JoeInNH | POS terminals...are a lot of those running WinXP?
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07:01:39 PM | RobbieF | yep
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07:02:31 PM | JoeInNH | I tripple tasking. I am playing Angband and chatting on my cool linux machine, and I got the live stream going on my Win7 machine
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07:02:54 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF - FYI - I am not on Roku tonight. it is warm enough in my lab/basement to watch on my main system!
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07:03:04 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hi
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07:03:05 PM | RobbieF | Hi.
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07:03:10 PM | RobbieF | Why Hello.
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07:03:30 PM | Dreamweaver909 | say no more...lol
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07:03:55 PM | Dreamweaver909 | happy birthday, Sasha
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07:03:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Happy Birthday SashaD
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07:04:08 PM | JoeInNH | Happy Birthday Sasha!
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07:04:23 PM | DJQuad | happy 23rd birthday sasha!
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07:04:29 PM | spiceJax | The green button wont play the show but the link on the right did. using Mint and FF.
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07:04:42 PM | JoeInNH | You can send yourself a private message in here
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07:06:22 PM | spiceJax | BTW, if I buy from a ad on the player page does Cat5 get a cut like the affilate links?
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07:07:33 PM | JoeInNH | Fuzzy logic...
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07:07:35 PM | DJQuad | https://donate.category5.tv/
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07:07:55 PM | DJQuad | (That's what Jot would do)
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07:09:33 PM | DJQuad | if you can't donate be sure to buy thru cat5's amazon's link. costs you nothing more and cat5 gets a cut
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07:09:37 PM | SashaD | Thank you DJQuad :)
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07:12:52 PM | spiceJax | I've been using the aff links but I have some things that are popping up in the ads that I was googleing so I want y'all to get a cut there too
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07:13:56 PM | Dreamweaver909 | I remember dial up BBS'
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07:14:34 PM | DJQuad | remember when it took 10 minutes to download a picture? lol
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07:14:58 PM | spiceJax | eeee gronnnkkk eeehhh gronk ....
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07:15:16 PM | DJQuad | lol. that sound
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07:15:28 PM | Dreamweaver909 | That's right b& w tv with 3-4 channels
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07:15:51 PM | Dreamweaver909 | got out first color tv in 1965
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07:16:28 PM | DJQuad | wow. when tvs had dials instead of remotes
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07:16:40 PM | Dreamweaver909 | Yeah if you'd get in an online game like Mutants you'd get killed after you log off...
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07:17:54 PM | DJQuad | google is also punishing sites that don't support https
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07:19:25 PM | spiceJax | Frankly I dont like when It 'defaults' to a Mobile page when I use chrome on the phone
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07:20:13 PM | DJQuad | i'm sure robbie will cover it, but if you use a responsive wordpress theme, or bootstrap, you're fine
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07:20:29 PM | Dreamweaver909 | I don't use mobile devices
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07:20:30 PM | spiceJax | The Band Elwood, the band!
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07:20:52 PM | Dreamweaver909 | get a hair cut, hippie....lol
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07:21:20 PM | DJQuad | i don't either dreamweaver, but i'm a web developer :)
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07:21:37 PM | spiceJax | how about pinch and zoom
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07:21:52 PM | Starflight | Hello
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07:22:26 PM | DJQuad | zooming and responsive doesn't work well together. layout stuff
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07:23:39 PM | Dreamweaver909 | Was there Soulcleansed-mania in Canada?
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07:23:42 PM | Dreamweaver909 | :)
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07:24:25 PM | spiceJax | 'request Desktop site' and hope it works
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07:25:59 PM | Andy1702 | Hi guys! What i want to know is how to force my phone (Blackberry) to show full websites instead of the crappy mobile versions?>
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07:26:05 PM | DJQuad | ironically most of google's sites aren't responsive and look like crap on mobile
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07:26:19 PM | JoeInNH | That is ironic
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07:27:23 PM | Andy1702 | Yes it does redirect and I wish it didn't, because I now have to get on my desktop PC to use all the website functions
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07:27:57 PM | JoeInNH | How is Google going to determine these sites
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07:28:10 PM | Dreamweaver909 | Yay NEWS~~~~~~~~~
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07:28:41 PM | spiceJax | I use android no clue on BB but on chrome the menu button has Request Desktop checkbox
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07:29:22 PM | Andy1702 | Mobile sites drive me nuts
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07:29:28 PM | Dreamweaver909 | Microsoft just put out 34 patches today
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07:30:13 PM | Dreamweaver909 | it's deep
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07:30:26 PM | Andy1702 | I was watching this show on my TV via the website, went to my phone to also access the chat through the site and found I couldn't do it because it was the crappy mibile version
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07:30:33 PM | DJQuad | Joe - in css there are what's called media queries, which determine various layouts based on mobile widths. google indexes those just like website content
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07:30:40 PM | JoeInNH | Is the next one going to be called Brewster?
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07:30:40 PM | spiceJax | I got another translation for POS lol
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07:32:52 PM | spiceJax | what did Robbie say about the ads next to the video? I missed his answer
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07:33:55 PM | spiceJax | embedded MS needs to change to Linux yes Sasha
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07:35:06 PM | DJQuad | part of why windows 10 is free is to get businesses off xp. i wish more of them would know linux is such a better option
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07:35:24 PM | fking | some atms use xp
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07:35:39 PM | Dreamweaver909 | lol
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07:36:13 PM | spiceJax | havent use a ATM in years
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07:36:15 PM | JoeInNH | Linux isn't just better. Is is Far supperior! I am typing this on an ancient P4 with 1.5G memory and Arch Linux
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07:36:55 PM | JoeInNH | I can't run a modern WinBloze OS on this system, and I am crazy and update my software files near daily
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07:36:58 PM | Andy1702 | I agree, Linux is better, but it really falls down on ease of use for those who aren't tech savvy
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07:37:08 PM | spiceJax | Joe why'd you pick ARCH?
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07:37:29 PM | spiceJax | winbloze LOL
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07:37:51 PM | DJQuad | some banks, public utility systems, legacy servers, etc use xp too. the last stat i read was about 40% of all windows systems still run on xp
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07:38:19 PM | JoeInNH | Spice: 2 reasons: more control without having to compile everything, and it forced me to get to know what was going on in the linux system because I had to set it up
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07:38:48 PM | JoeInNH | I think NYC subway computers still use OS-2 Warp
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07:39:12 PM | Andy1702 | @Robbie How can Iget the full cat5 website on my phone? I don't want the mobile version.
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07:39:31 PM | spiceJax | ah ha I'll wait to self abuse I mean learn CLI lol
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07:40:01 PM | DJQuad | OS/2. good times :)
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07:40:02 PM | JoeInNH | Andy: maybe use one of the phone browsers that load the site on there computers first?
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07:40:14 PM | JoeInNH | Never used OS/2
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07:40:20 PM | fking | schools should use chromebooks
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07:40:33 PM | JoeInNH | Apple is about creating addicts
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07:40:45 PM | spiceJax | Warp another MS victim
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07:40:53 PM | Andy1702 | I don't want to use up space with loads of different browsers though
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07:41:09 PM | DJQuad | OS/2 was the first OS (that i know of) that allowed multitasking
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07:41:11 PM | JoeInNH | Maybe they could convert the Apple computers to use Linux
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07:41:15 PM | Andy1702 | I just want the proper websites all the time. Mobile versions don't have enough features
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07:41:24 PM | spiceJax | AmigaDOS
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07:41:56 PM | spiceJax | and UNIX lol
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07:42:22 PM | JoeInNH | spice: there is a graphical package manager, but I prefer to use the keyboard
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07:42:26 PM | Starflight | Wow I am having trouble connecting to the show
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07:43:24 PM | Starflight | disconneted 10 times in 5 minutes - I think your video show is messing up my computer connection
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07:43:26 PM | Andy1702 | It's slow loading Starflight
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07:44:16 PM | fking | roku doing a lot of buffering
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07:44:35 PM | JoeInNH | Max "Cool Hacker" Headroom. What was the software?
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07:44:42 PM | Starflight | I have to F5 the page again !
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07:44:50 PM | RobbieF | Sorry to hear you're having trouble with Roku. No trouble on our end tonight.
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07:44:52 PM | Andy1702 | What is this Roku thing? Never heard of it here in the UK.
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07:44:56 PM | spiceJax | Norrrtoonn! to the moon!
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07:45:07 PM | JoeInNH | I use avg
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07:45:19 PM | JoeInNH | and clamav on my arch system
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07:45:23 PM | Dreamweaver909 | slight?
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07:45:34 PM | DJQuad | clam = best av. lol
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07:45:38 PM | SashaD | today maybe more than slight
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07:45:51 PM | Dreamweaver909 | lol
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07:46:10 PM | Andy1702 | They do!!!
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07:46:18 PM | spiceJax | Star if youre on the main page try the 'Were live Link' on the right side of the page
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07:47:20 PM | spiceJax | try this http://live.cat5.tv
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07:47:26 PM | DJQuad | gj sasha! lol. exactly
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07:48:05 PM | Andy1702 | My phone fills the screen with all ordinary websites. I just zoom in if I need to
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07:48:28 PM | fking | i'm guessing it is time warner on my end
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07:48:31 PM | spiceJax | looks like squarespace
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07:49:58 PM | DJQuad | that's the sucky part spice. web designs have very, very limited layout options to look good on mobile devices
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07:50:48 PM | Dreamer__ | exactly Andy1702 , I am with you on this one. Some sites still detect your mobile and attempt to push the mobile version on you. Fortunately today I figured out how to prevent this with firefox on android.
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07:51:02 PM | spiceJax | that I like
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07:51:20 PM | Andy1702 | spiceJax, http://live.cat5.tv works to bring up the chat room, but doesn't let me got to all of the normal desktop site
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07:51:57 PM | Andy1702 | Damn right I don't like it! And from today my home page is NOT Google any more!!!!! :-)
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07:53:10 PM | Andy1702 | Now people know Google are not showing all websites, maybe people will stop using Google as their search engine?
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07:53:47 PM | DJQuad | Robbie - do you think a modern wordpress theme like Avada with responsiveness is "good enough"? most designers obviously don't care about responsive code
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07:55:01 PM | DJQuad | her blog uses wordpress right?
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07:55:19 PM | DJQuad | nm. lol
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07:56:11 PM | spiceJax | I'm a 45%er lol
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07:56:26 PM | RobbieF | :)
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07:57:14 PM | DJQuad | this is why every site i do uses wordpress. granted, they are mostly brochure type sites
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07:57:16 PM | spiceJax | oops that's 35%
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07:59:39 PM | JoeInNH | I just had to move my contacts to claws mail on this system from gmail
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08:00:15 PM | spiceJax | another hour slips by
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08:00:44 PM | DJQuad | happy 23rd bday again sasha!
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08:00:47 PM | JoeInNH | Time flys
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08:00:53 PM | JoeInNH | flies
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08:00:57 PM | RobbieF | Thanks everyone!!
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08:00:59 PM | Dreamweaver909 | bye
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08:01:01 PM | SashaD | That was a great episode :)
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08:01:02 PM | RobbieF | hope you had fun
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08:01:05 PM | JoeInNH | Good Show.
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08:01:07 PM | BobK54 | night!!
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08:01:08 PM | SashaD | It's fun to be co host!
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08:01:10 PM | Dreamweaver909 | quit
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08:01:18 PM | Dreamweaver909 | exit
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08:01:23 PM | SashaD | Thanks everyone for the bday wishes!
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08:01:24 PM | DJQuad | i know. seriously the fastest hour of the week
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08:01:58 PM | DJQuad | see y'all next week. take care
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08:02:10 PM | SashaD | See you all next Tuesday!
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08:02:26 PM | spiceJax | GN TTFN
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08:02:31 PM | fking | good night all
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08:03:12 PM | JoeInNH | good night everyone
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08:04:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | great Show Robbief
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08:18:07 PM | RobbieF | Thank you all. Have a great night!
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