Chat Logs for Episode 420 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 131 Posts:Dooley_the_Vulca
With 95 Posts:NateUK
With 66 Posts:agamotto
With 48 Posts:revdjenk
With 47 Posts:Bluenoseguy


Chat Logs:

06:58:03 PMSparklyballs hello Dooley_the_Vulca
06:58:03 PMdreamweaver909 hi
06:58:04 PMT0B33 Hi guys :)
06:58:11 PMDooley_the_Vulca And hello to everyone else
06:58:15 PMagamotto I am just happy to be awake for more than 4-5 hours at a time... Colds really suck
06:58:20 PMDennis_Kelley Hello everyone
06:58:30 PMWhiskey_Zero Hi Dennis_Kelley
06:58:32 PMSashaD its almost go time!!!
06:58:38 PMrevdjenk hey everyone else, and Dennis_Kelley
06:58:42 PMT0B33 Robbie not in the chatroom?
06:58:46 PMDooley_the_Vulca just dont fall asleep as the show starts and wake up at the end credits
06:58:48 PMjwmp Hi all
06:58:53 PMSashaD he is going now :)
06:58:54 PMagamotto Where are we going?
06:58:55 PMSparklyballs i've been looking after my 5 year old niece while her parents in rome, i'm glad to be alive.... she's ran me ragged.
06:58:58 PMSashaD joining
06:59:04 PMRobbieF hi all!
06:59:04 PMDennis_Kelley Whiskey_Zero revdjenk hello
06:59:12 PMT0B33 Hi RobbieF :)
06:59:16 PMWhiskey_Zero Hi RobbieF
06:59:18 PMDennis_Kelley Hi RobbieF
06:59:20 PMRobbieF Hope you all have a BLAST!
06:59:23 PMSparklyballs hello RobbieF
06:59:25 PMagamotto Sparklyballs: Toddlers and puppies can do that to you :)
06:59:26 PMalpeck hey RobbieF
06:59:41 PMWhiskey_Zero Ready for blastoff
06:59:58 PMDooley_the_Vulca Hello RobbieF
07:00:18 PMorangenaN HAS SHOW STARTED YET
07:00:19 PMrevdjenk I'll have a blast if the screen changes from black
07:00:19 PMSparklyballs she said to me this morning, my daddy is old, but you're very old....
07:00:22 PMrevdjenk oh yes!
07:00:31 PMorangenaN THANKS
07:00:36 PMagamotto Sparklyballs: chuckle
07:00:59 PMT0B33 SashaD: Tell Robbie he missed a spot when he was shaving lol Joke
07:01:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca old sparklyballs...lol
07:01:11 PMdreamweaver909 lol
07:01:17 PMrevdjenk hee hee Sparklyballs you have lost some of your luster!
07:01:35 PMagamotto Ads, in and of themselves, don't suck. The pop-up ones, and the god-awful auto play ones are what give other adverts such a bad reputation
07:01:36 PMrevdjenk old Sparklyballs is old!
07:01:54 PMagamotto So much for thinking my phone was patched...
07:02:01 PMRobbieF ha!
07:02:02 PMDennis_Kelley we can see thru SashaD
07:02:03 PMrevdjenk agamotto: I don't like the facebook ones which show up after you close the browser!
07:02:20 PMmm548 How do you chat and watch the show - Just toggle between tabs?
07:02:24 PMjwmp Advertising. I HATE IT. Always have, always will.
07:02:29 PMagamotto revdjenk: Facebook runs much more smoothly if you turn off everything Flash
07:02:32 PMDennis_Kelley mm548 two screens
07:02:33 PMDooley_the_Vulca the ads that autoplay and have audio and its 3 in the morning.... SUCK
07:02:41 PMagamotto mm548: yes
07:02:43 PMmm548 ok thnx
07:02:52 PMDooley_the_Vulca split screen her
07:02:54 PMDooley_the_Vulca here
07:03:03 PMT0B33 Theres this Malicious add that pops up on some sites that looks like the old BSOD from windows 98 lol
07:03:12 PMagamotto mm548: minimize the windows if you have that ability
07:03:17 PMjwmp BOOOOOoooooo!
07:03:27 PMrevdjenk mm548: I am chromecasting to the tv and leaving the chat on my laptop
07:03:59 PMDennis_Kelley mm548 you canmake the chat small and put it under the screen for the show
07:03:59 PMSparklyballs when i used to watch and type on the same machine, i dropped the transparency on my irc client
07:04:44 PMDooley_the_Vulca Good Evening SashaD
07:04:45 PMsr_wences hey folks!
07:04:46 PMmm548 Thanks for the options everyone
07:04:58 PMSashaD Hi everyone :)
07:04:59 PMsr_wences Hi SashD!
07:05:05 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD show music is still playing
07:05:17 PMorangenaN what hockey
07:05:21 PMSashaD thank you
07:05:21 PMrevdjenk agamotto: I should have flash off, at least with Chrome, I must right click and select to run flash
07:05:23 PMalpeck hi SashaD
07:05:36 PMagamotto revdjenk: JS then?
07:05:39 PMSashaD is it still on?
07:05:41 PMsr_wences Lacrosse all the way! What's this hockey sport I hear people speak of?
07:05:48 PMrevdjenk hey SashaD
07:05:48 PMDooley_the_Vulca yes Sasha
07:05:49 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD yes
07:05:54 PMrevdjenk agamotto: JS ?
07:06:00 PMagamotto revdjenk: I know that I have pretty much defaulted to OFF for both of those
07:06:04 PMagamotto revdjenk: JavaScript
07:06:11 PMrevdjenk oh...thanks
07:06:35 PMDooley_the_Vulca sound off
07:06:39 PMSashaD better?
07:06:42 PMDooley_the_Vulca music that is
07:06:48 PMDooley_the_Vulca yes thank you Sasha
07:06:49 PMDennis_Kelley ok off fo rme
07:06:54 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: some people are reporting that ads are popping up despite the adblocking addons
07:07:20 PMagamotto revdjenk: Disconnect does a very good job for me
07:07:38 PMDennis_Kelley SashaD Thank You! and Hello!
07:07:58 PMDooley_the_Vulca mm548 can you pull one of the tabs out of the current browser and move it to one side and chat browser to the other side
07:08:00 PMrevdjenk agamotto: (whispers, that's what I use...)
07:09:03 PMagamotto We won't mention what Lenovo does...
07:09:46 PMsr_wences Lenovo. Love theiir hardware, hate their policies - they have some goofy people working in their ad groups.
07:09:56 PMT0B33 agamotto: That bios thing that reinstalls lenova programs?
07:10:10 PMagamotto Which is why they make decent Linux boxes, once you wipe them!
07:10:23 PMrevdjenk agamotto: +1
07:10:25 PMagamotto T0B33: yes
07:10:38 PMDooley_the_Vulca that HARDWARE based malware by lenovo would make me not want any of their machines even for free
07:11:04 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: but how does one help the legitimate site ad income?
07:11:38 PMagamotto I was sad to hear about Quirky going bankrupt... I bought quite a few of their bits.
07:12:03 PMSparklyballs quirky ?
07:12:28 PMagamotto US firm that sold items invented by 'normal' people.
07:13:00 PMagamotto Sort of a Kickstarter community for people looking for just-the-right things
07:14:52 PMalpeck stream stopped
07:14:59 PMSparklyballs commerical breaks in the uk aren't every 10 minutes.. thankfully
07:15:07 PMDooley_the_Vulca going agaoin
07:15:11 PMDooley_the_Vulca again also
07:15:13 PMSparklyballs merikan tv is crazy for ads
07:15:14 PMBluenoseguy Strange
07:15:22 PMalpeck its back...maybe it was me
07:15:27 PMDooley_the_Vulca does it usually freeze like that?
07:15:30 PMBluenoseguy Nope stopped here too alpeck
07:15:34 PMagamotto Sparklyballs: I would pay ~US120 yearly if it meant no commercials
07:15:37 PMsr_wences I try to watch mostly PBS.
07:15:42 PMorangeman I lost feed again
07:15:43 PMDennis_Kelley Sometimes Dooley_the_Vulca
07:15:43 PMBluenoseguy No not usually at all
07:15:44 PMDooley_the_Vulca here too in the midwest us
07:15:54 PMdreamweaver909 yep
07:15:55 PMsr_wences Or, I record it and skio through commercials.
07:16:08 PMagamotto Dooley_the_Vulca: What part of the Midwest?
07:16:20 PMsr_wences @Orangeman I am getting glitchy streams as well.
07:16:40 PMDooley_the_Vulca Indianapolis Indiana
07:16:49 PMDooley_the_Vulca and you agamoto
07:17:03 PMagamotto Ahhh, I am over in Moline, IL.
07:17:13 PMSparklyballs yeah,, it's breaking up here in the uk too
07:17:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca well hello neighbor
07:17:39 PMDooley_the_Vulca stream froze for about 15-20 seconds and has been fine since then
07:17:59 PMorangeman i just went front page and click watch live and close old dead sceen down
07:18:00 PMdreamweaver909 I like the British comedies that are on PBS.
07:18:20 PMDooley_the_Vulca british comedy is the best
07:18:29 PMDooley_the_Vulca Mrs browns boys...lol\
07:18:48 PMdreamweaver909 Last Of The Summer Wine
07:18:48 PMagamotto dreamweaver909: I just wish Iowa Public TV would get some newer ones. I loved 'Are You Being Served?,' but enough already
07:19:26 PMDooley_the_Vulca yes, it was great but you only laugh at mrs slokems cat so many times
07:19:26 PMdreamweaver909 Yeah I know what you mean, the BBC must charge them a lot to show the shows.
07:20:19 PMdreamweaver909 Hulu streams some British tv also
07:21:01 PMdreamweaver909 Roku 4 coming out soon and a new OS for Roku as well.
07:21:17 PMagamotto I built my first Mythbox DVR years ago because my mother kept falling asleep during the commercials for her shows.
07:21:22 PMDooley_the_Vulca I used ad based software a long time ago, and thought it was great. free internet as long as there were ads. but they didnt cut your bandwidth or scream in your face
07:22:04 PMDooley_the_Vulca Roku4 ? enough processing power to have a browser would be great
07:22:17 PMagamotto I have some websites (news) set for no graphics... speeds things along quite handily
07:22:18 PMBluenoseguy MUCH better shot... a little weak on the key but nice to see your smiling face SashaD!
07:22:50 PMdreamweaver909 https://www.roku.com/products/roku-4 $K streaming
07:22:56 PMdreamweaver909 4K streaming
07:23:09 PMrevdjenk drone for Christmas is better than the whines I usually hear!
07:23:13 PMDooley_the_Vulca that is not as big of an interest as a browser would be
07:23:30 PMSparklyballs i want exploding drones thank you very much
07:23:46 PMagamotto Now that is interesting
07:24:01 PMagamotto Leave it to the Japanese to come up with Johnny-Cab.
07:24:04 PMBluenoseguy But what about exploding sparklyballs? No, you're right the glitter would get into everything :)
07:24:17 PMrevdjenk what was our guests website, RobbieF ?
07:24:28 PMagamotto Adzerk?
07:24:31 PMWhiskey_Zero adzerk.com
07:24:35 PMrevdjenk thanks
07:24:48 PMSparklyballs amazon creating a monopoly for fire stick ?
07:24:49 PMrevdjenk my hearing must be bad today!
07:25:01 PMSparklyballs naughty naughty
07:25:11 PMDooley_the_Vulca drones that when they crash take off crawling like replicators
07:25:14 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: trying to create a monopoly won't work
07:25:38 PMagamotto Amazon's Kindle (B&W) is great for reading, can't say anything about the Fire ones.
07:25:46 PMSparklyballs amazon dropped kodi based boxes from their site a while back
07:26:17 PMagamotto Why would I give that kind of information to someone like Patreon in the first place?
07:26:53 PMrevdjenk Good thing I did a "self" patreon gift and not sign up there!
07:27:09 PMSparklyballs tax relief for charities, they can get extra or something. so people will give tax details
07:27:19 PMagamotto At least Patreon had something protected, unlike so many!
07:28:03 PMagamotto I must be one of the few Americans who doesn't give that info to anyone unless required by a law.
07:28:49 PMBluenoseguy So, when will the government of Canada actually take the auditor general's suggestions and upgrade sensitive outdated government computer systems?
07:29:04 PMrevdjenk agamotto: making it difficult for corporations! boo-hoo
07:29:09 PMDooley_the_Vulca Cat5 could set up an electronic deposit only account that if people want they could set it up like an auto pay deduct to the account that can only be accessed live in a brick and mortar location.
07:29:10 PMagamotto When Harper and gang drop off the earth?
07:29:21 PMBluenoseguy not soon enough agamotto
07:29:46 PMagamotto revdjenk: True, but I don't see why anyone needs my SSN in order for me to buy something.
07:30:11 PMrevdjenk you are correct
07:30:20 PMDooley_the_Vulca have a once a month auto payment go to the account out of yours and be as safe as any of your payments you already make
07:30:37 PMDooley_the_Vulca no I dont give out SSN at all
07:30:54 PMagamotto You should have heard the whining from car insurance companies when they tried to 'touch' my credit info. I have all of that as locked-up/frozen with the agencies as well..
07:31:00 PMDooley_the_Vulca I do for medical, dont want to get medical accounts mixed up
07:31:04 PMrevdjenk untreated diesel, is that what comes out of the tailpipes of VW's?
07:31:52 PMagamotto Here is a question... if the diesel is the low-sulphur kind, what is left that is so bad?
07:32:24 PMBluenoseguy Yup
07:32:24 PMrevdjenk unburned hydrocarbons...
07:32:25 PMagamotto Older people? You do realize that in Japan, that is the 80+ crowd?
07:32:41 PMBluenoseguy Yeah until the jonny cab turned against you
07:32:58 PMDooley_the_Vulca water as fuel that uses pellets to separate the hydrogen from the oxygen and then use them both as fuel...
07:33:04 PMrevdjenk agamotto: older people? I'd like that now... and I'm not that old!
07:33:13 PMSparklyballs if the voice recognition is anything like siri etc.. you could ask for the theatre and end up in a heater company
07:33:31 PMjwmp @agamotto: small and tiny particulates, as well as NO3
07:33:37 PMDooley_the_Vulca when you look up stuff that is old....from the 80s make you go.....UMMMM nope
07:33:46 PMsr_wences @RobbieF - you are as nerdy as me. I was picturing Johnny Cab when Sasha was reading the story!
07:33:53 PMBluenoseguy lol
07:34:07 PMagamotto Hmmm, so I have to turn off ALL audio/video stuff on my phone?
07:34:43 PMDooley_the_Vulca @RobbieF I told my wife about Johnny cab 20 seconds before you mentioned it... lol
07:34:43 PMBluenoseguy Well if you can reprogram and take control of a Ram truck via wifi... hey anything is possible
07:34:56 PMNateUK sorry to say good luck getting the updates to anything but nexus ..
07:35:00 PMsr_wences Customer confusion?
07:35:10 PMsr_wences WHo do they theink they are... Apple?
07:35:13 PMagamotto Hmm, another reason to shop elsewhere besides Amazon
07:35:18 PMBluenoseguy So, soon I think there will be a building product for homes that would block wireless signals
07:35:20 PMSparklyballs customer confusion = choice
07:35:31 PMrevdjenk Amazon told me, in a response why they don't allow prime video on chromecast, that the chromecast is not compatible. They are the ones keeping it that way!
07:35:34 PMsr_wences Right on, Sparkly!
07:35:43 PMSoundPro69 So what's going to happen with Amazon Prime video on Roku?
07:35:54 PMDooley_the_Vulca why should they cut their customer base? sell all products. offer deals on certain ones but do not cut your own sales
07:35:59 PMrevdjenk SoundPro69: it is still going to be there
07:36:02 PMBluenoseguy LOVING the new shots of SashaD RobbieF
07:36:08 PMrevdjenk go figure, SoundPro69
07:36:17 PMagamotto And while they were being pissy about it, I bought the books elsewhere...
07:36:26 PMsr_wences Someone crucnhed the numbers and figured out this was the best (most rofitable) way.
07:36:38 PMjwmp agamotto: PM)http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34411366>
07:36:39 PMSoundPro69 Thank you revdjenk!
07:36:55 PMDooley_the_Vulca ROKU the way to go....
07:37:05 PMRobbieF \o
07:37:08 PMRobbieF Wow, busy busy
07:37:12 PMrevdjenk even microsoft is working with free and open software now... amazon needs to play nice with its neighbors
07:37:13 PMagamotto RobbieF: Amazon Instant Video
07:37:26 PMDooley_the_Vulca I talked my boss into a roku because his apple wouldnt stream prime
07:37:38 PMSparklyballs amazon is different from google and apple in that they're an outlet primarily
07:37:39 PMBluenoseguy So we'll loose audio again
07:37:45 PMBluenoseguy ?
07:37:56 PMdreamweaver909 There is a Amazon instant Video on Roku, Robbie.
07:38:09 PMDooley_the_Vulca Exterminate
07:38:17 PMrevdjenk its another edit on the way!
07:38:20 PMNateUK i want that darlek lol
07:38:49 PMGuest_8780 Netflix, Amazon and Hulu are easily viewed on Roku Robbie
07:38:53 PMDooley_the_Vulca nateUK whats the easiest way to load your current release of the kodi channel?
07:39:13 PMNateUK download the zip file
07:39:22 PMrevdjenk I want that "lunch box"
07:39:43 PMSparklyballs if amazon prime is incompatible with other devices, the onus is on amazon
07:39:47 PMDooley_the_Vulca SashaD, just listening to you talk, stutter or not is very pleasant so don't worry about it at all
07:39:48 PMSashaD we will be back in just a quick moment
07:39:53 PMBluenoseguy You may need more back light to get rid of the poor key SashaD. They can be tricky.
07:39:57 PMNateUK go to system and add ons (in kodi)
07:40:03 PMNateUK and install from zipfile
07:40:09 PMagamotto If you are wrestling with a beard, you are grooming the wrong way
07:40:14 PMBluenoseguy A tad yup
07:40:17 PMDooley_the_Vulca where to get it NateUK
07:40:27 PMsr_wences @SashaD - I agree You're great on the news. You should present on the news!
07:40:28 PMDooley_the_Vulca any link or file
07:40:47 PMBluenoseguy How is your autocue working SashaD?
07:40:53 PMsr_wences On Canadian TV
07:40:53 PMsr_wences oN CANADIAN tv
07:41:03 PMSparklyballs you wouldn't go screaming at microsoft because your linux app doesn't run on windows
07:41:04 PMGuest_8780 Don
07:41:07 PMSashaD its working great bluenoseguy
07:41:18 PMNateUK two places ... stable https://github.com/Cat5TV/plugin.video.category5 .. development stable at this time https://github.com/nateuk/plugin.video.category5
07:41:24 PMSparklyballs so why are amazon screaming that their service doesn't work on other devices....
07:41:50 PMBluenoseguy You should do another show that shows how you do the autocue.
07:42:09 PMNateUK hope that helps Dooley_the_Vulca
07:42:15 PMBluenoseguy It's like a cooking show... and here is the finished pizza... wow, doesn't it look fantastic :)
07:42:55 PMSashaD hahaha... the magic of post production!
07:42:56 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: no, but when amazon claims the incompatibility of chromecast with their service is the problem, then fail to say that it is their development failure that keeps that status!
07:43:13 PMagamotto I would think being accused of criminal activity would be what would worry most
07:43:24 PMrevdjenk They make it seem as if google is at fault
07:43:30 PMDooley_the_Vulca it will Thank You NateUK
07:43:41 PMGuest_8780 Don't worry about stuttering Sasha, most live cast/guest do that. Old shows with no problems or stuttering was rehearsed.
07:44:11 PMSashaD I get so crazy nervous... thank you for your patience!
07:44:21 PMDroningTheWorld Thank you to Jason for letting me know of this awesome podcast. Keep up the great work.
07:44:27 PMSparklyballs it's classic blame avoidance, but with overtones that are a little unsavoury in terms of selling their own products.
07:44:31 PMrevdjenk SashaD: just imagine us naked ... oh, that may not help!
07:44:32 PMBluenoseguy Why? You're fine SashaD
07:44:42 PMDooley_the_Vulca Stuttering is usually from the mind working faster than what you can say, usually a sign of intelligence so there you go....lol
07:44:55 PMDroningTheWorld I love my teeny drone would recommend it to anyone
07:45:05 PMlyndon_ my internet is going crazy... I'm out yall
07:45:12 PMNateUK SashaD it makes the show more down to earth when we get to see the other bits ... its the magic of watching live .. seeing sometimes the changes : ))
07:45:17 PMlyndon_ have a great night
07:45:27 PMDooley_the_Vulca I am pusing Teeny Drones to people for christmas presents
07:45:33 PMDooley_the_Vulca pushing
07:45:38 PMSashaD you are all too sweet... thank you
07:45:59 PMSashaD I'm totally buying a teeny drone or two!
07:46:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca sharing your page and products on facebook
07:46:13 PMorangeman what frequency do oprate on and is protect from em interfence man or delibate interfence
07:46:29 PMBluenoseguy Seeing the mistakes, the retakes, all ad to the viewer's experience as does the chat room. It makes you much more invested and much more likely to be a repeat supporter.
07:46:37 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: why don't the larger drones adopt more flexible rotors? is it an efficiency problem?
07:46:51 PMagamotto I am loading up on See's Candies for Saturnalia gifts this year.
07:47:12 PMSparklyballs cats are legitimate targets
07:47:54 PMagamotto Just remember - kitties have five pointy ends
07:47:55 PMDooley_the_Vulca I am guessing it is weight based, the teeny ones have such light weight the blades can speed up and no problems but the larger ones might snap off before the drone moves
07:47:58 PMSmokyjoe Sparklyballs are legitimate targets
07:47:58 PMtic-toc The army uses drones that are made to break up and reassemble and reuse
07:48:02 PMDooley_the_Vulca just a guess
07:48:39 PMDooley_the_Vulca Tic-Toc.... those are replicators... dont let them fool ya
07:48:51 PMrevdjenk look at your RobbieF
07:49:04 PMBluenoseguy Someone
07:49:11 PMBluenoseguy has had some stick time
07:49:16 PMrevdjenk hee hee
07:49:30 PMDooley_the_Vulca practice practice obviously
07:49:47 PMBluenoseguy Great packaging!
07:50:06 PMagamotto Far better to practice on these than someone's 'nice' unit that would go spat! at $US200 or higher
07:50:09 PMNateUK shipping price to international ?? ..
07:50:11 PMrevdjenk selling in the US? where
07:50:35 PMagamotto Dog/cat far more likely...
07:50:41 PMBluenoseguy Glad they are CDN... exchange sucks at the moment
07:51:11 PMtic-toc The break apart drone is the RQ-11
07:51:27 PMagamotto Bluenoseguy: Back to around 85c again?
07:52:46 PMagamotto Is there a keyboard layout that lets me use accent/international marks without having to hit six keys to get them?
07:52:53 PMBluenoseguy 1$ cdn = 1.346800 US
07:53:10 PMagamotto Bluenoseguy: Ahhh, wasn't aware it was that far from parity
07:53:20 PMBluenoseguy OHhh yes
07:53:37 PMalpeck i think you have that backwards agamotto
07:53:48 PMBluenoseguy Yes, reverse that..
07:53:49 PMagamotto So, the Loony is worth more than the Euro? interesting
07:53:55 PMagamotto Ahh, ok
07:53:59 PMalpeck sorry agamotto...i meant Bluenoseguy
07:53:59 PMSparklyballs ę
07:54:25 PMSparklyballs i just hold down a key on my mac to keep accent/umlaut etc options
07:54:26 PMBluenoseguy 1$ US = 1.346800 Canadian
07:54:33 PMGuest_3562 hi
07:55:09 PMBluenoseguy Hello
07:55:14 PMagamotto I used to be able to do SHFT+ALT+(key) but I don't remember which layout it was...
07:55:21 PMDooley_the_Vulca Hello 3562
07:56:25 PMBluenoseguy Does the GOpro attachment come with... not the cam... but the mount?
07:56:42 PMjwmp Try Windows On-Screen Keyboard - the AltGr key may be what you need
07:57:46 PMBluenoseguy That's awesome.
07:58:32 PMDooley_the_Vulca agamotto what symbol are you wanting to get
07:58:46 PMtic-toc Do they have a womans driver software??? It would crash into everything
07:58:58 PMDooley_the_Vulca OH MY
07:59:39 PMGuest_4207 hi
07:59:58 PMSparklyballs SashaD: , you didn't put the case together... (man hands)
08:00:15 PMagamotto Ahhh, there it is... Alternate International!
08:00:21 PMBluenoseguy Robbie has his geek on lol
08:00:28 PMDooley_the_Vulca RobbieF and his man hands
08:00:54 PMjwmp Oh, also you can use the Windows Character Map (in Accessories, System Tools). The keycode is shown in the bottom left.
08:01:01 PMagamotto ¡Sí, es bueno!
08:01:01 PMBluenoseguy sounds like a mosh band... Robbie DJ and his man hands
08:01:28 PMagamotto Hmmm, somehow I forgot which layout I was using when I last clean installed Mint.
08:01:39 PMorangeman Robbie sound is bad and brack up
08:01:57 PMagamotto tic-toc: Only if they were Oriental... chuckle
08:02:28 PMBluenoseguy How difficult is motor replacement?
08:02:34 PMagamotto Bluenoseguy: good question
08:03:14 PMBluenoseguy What's inexpensive?
08:03:15 PMtic-toc wong way wong way - (crash)
08:03:20 PMmm548 I think the motors are plug and play
08:03:54 PMBluenoseguy Yeah, think so
08:04:34 PMtic-toc I have one of those on my flying carpet
08:04:37 PMBluenoseguy Now if they only built a unit that you could use 4 minis to build a larger unit
08:04:38 PMagamotto Hmmm, I didn't see the Cyrillic options
08:04:50 PMagamotto Not that I would know what to do with them...
08:05:00 PMlifeofpi is the software open source
08:05:15 PMbikkitty hi
08:05:23 PMagamotto Use the minis as the engines for a Helicarrier?
08:05:37 PMBluenoseguy Yes
08:05:45 PMtic-toc kernel crash at 500 feet
08:06:27 PMBluenoseguy May we suggest... hum.. Saskatchewan as a test flight SashaD :) jk
08:06:35 PMDooley_the_Vulca Beta testers are all over this room
08:07:01 PMagamotto Loss of signal will result in your drone 'homing' to FAA headquarters...
08:07:02 PMGuest_2540 hio
08:07:23 PMrevdjenk RobbieF: do they have courses that have height or obstacles too?
08:07:25 PMjwmp stream breaking up badly
08:07:43 PMbikkitty yep
08:07:47 PMagamotto I hear Alberta is nice this time of year.
08:08:02 PMDooley_the_Vulca Both of their audio is crackling and breaking
08:08:02 PMagamotto Drone agility training?
08:08:03 PMBluenoseguy nah ... foothills
08:08:07 PMbikkitty yes
08:09:12 PMtic-toc whos that ugly sob flying at me......lol
08:09:16 PMBluenoseguy may cause epileptic seizures
08:09:35 PMGuest_2540 rr
08:09:44 PMbikkitty bg
08:09:54 PMSparklyballs if you got drunk, flew around and decided to buzz someone, but it was you....
08:10:08 PMjwmp lol
08:10:15 PMagamotto Well folks, I must away... Isabella has informed me it is time to go out.
08:10:20 PMagamotto Chat at you later
08:10:29 PMDooley_the_Vulca have a good night agamotto
08:10:41 PMrevdjenk bye agamotto
08:10:43 PMg3251 hggg
08:10:56 PMbikkitty ez
08:11:15 PMBluenoseguy "that's just how I drone"... copyright pending
08:11:21 PMrevdjenk there are very small cams...
08:11:37 PMrevdjenk no color
08:11:51 PMtic-toc peeping tom dream
08:12:59 PMrevdjenk whoops
08:13:05 PMDooley_the_Vulca Solar panels on the blades so when outside you pick up power from the sun
08:13:09 PMrevdjenk moneys run out
08:13:12 PMjwmp Time for bed
08:13:12 PMDooley_the_Vulca what happened
08:13:20 PMmm548 Good Night
08:13:22 PMjwmp G'nite all
08:13:22 PMtic-toc off to the gym 4 me
08:13:24 PMDooley_the_Vulca well that sucked
08:13:27 PMrevdjenk put more quarters in the camera RobbieF
08:13:53 PMorangeman no audio no video opps
08:14:03 PMWhiskey_Zero Hey Robbie & Sasha, thanks for a really interesting program! Those teeny drones look very cool. May have to order one for Christmas!
08:14:14 PMSparklyballs night all
08:14:14 PMDooley_the_Vulca could see about getting funding for longer show time
08:14:21 PMDennis_Kelley how come the feed dies but the adds still make it thru?
08:14:23 PMDooley_the_Vulca night sparklyballs
08:14:31 PMT0B33 Great show SashaD and RobbieF :) Good night everybody, i'm beat haha
08:14:36 PMrevdjenk thanks great show RobbieF !
08:14:42 PMBluenoseguy hum
08:14:46 PMrevdjenk and SashaD !!!
08:14:52 PMBluenoseguy AHhh back
08:15:02 PMDooley_the_Vulca are they really back?
08:15:06 PMSashaD Thanks guys.... have a great week, see you next Tuesday!!
08:15:17 PMWhiskey_Zero Good night everyone, I'm off to supper now. See you next week, same cat-time, same cat-channel!
08:15:23 PMDooley_the_Vulca SashaD have a great week
08:15:31 PMBluenoseguy Good show guys
08:16:12 PMDooley_the_Vulca well is anyone sticking around here?
08:16:41 PMDooley_the_Vulca I will hang out and chat if anyone else is
08:16:52 PMNateUK people come and go Dooley_the_Vulca
08:17:28 PMNateUK can never tell .. until you shout lol
08:17:30 PMlifeofpi is the kodi app down
08:17:39 PMDooley_the_Vulca So Nate, do you or do you know of anyone that is into building their own arcade machines?
08:18:09 PMNateUK no .. lifeofpi .. it uses the roku and vlc stream .. so if they are down kodi is as well
08:18:14 PMRobbieF THANKS ALL!!!
08:18:15 PMDennis_Kelley see ya all next week
08:19:08 PMNateUK I have known of some using meme in an old style arcade box machine ... and some table version .. but that was a year or two back Dooley_the_Vulca
08:19:20 PMlifeofpi kodi is working fine just the cat5 app not working
08:19:34 PMDooley_the_Vulca Thank You RobbieF, great show
08:20:02 PMNateUK thanks RobbieF, SashaD and visitors .. great show
08:20:14 PMNateUK do you mean the live or the different feeds lifeofpi ?
08:20:40 PMlifeofpi different and live
08:20:41 PMDooley_the_Vulca you ought to see some of the pics of the machines that are being built, make the commercial ones of the 80s look sad
08:21:00 PMNateUK oh yes i am seeing it let me check something lifeofpi .. one moment
08:21:13 PMDooley_the_Vulca Thanks to SashaD and RobbieF for your time and putting on a great show.
08:21:14 PMlifeofpi ok thanks
08:24:01 PMNateUK yes there is a problem with the Nature sounds of Ontario Canada .. I will speak to the boss on that one hehehe but the rest are working fine lifeofpi .. as for the live it runs off the roku/vlc stream .. so when thats up kodi live runs fine ..
08:24:58 PMlifeofpi ok thanks Nate
08:25:02 PMNateUK but i think cat5 was having signal problems tonight ... lte must of been strugglig
08:25:30 PMNateUK yes Dooley_the_Vulca I did see some very poor attempts .. but at least it is bringing back the feel of the retro feel : ))
08:25:39 PMDooley_the_Vulca something was putting a strain on the audio
08:26:09 PMDooley_the_Vulca NateUK are you windows or linux
08:26:11 PMNateUK like any mobile when overcast or whatever it can kick you out .. so that was I believe the problem .. maybe wrong
08:27:02 PMDooley_the_Vulca they have their antennae booster for his LTE tower that is across the street from studio D
08:27:09 PMNateUK linux / mac ... I am so glad to get away from windows
08:27:09 PMNateUK when i left my last job that is
08:27:09 PMNateUK education and teaching always require teaching students on stupid windows lol
08:29:04 PMDooley_the_Vulca so I have had dual boot systems in the past and I am looking to go to straight linux. only issue I have is that some software does not install as easily as intended. what is the easiest way to solve this issue. once this issue is solved I will be fully set for linux
08:31:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca I actually would boot to windows and do an internet speed test then reboot the same hardware into linux and speed test at the same site and get a much faster result with linux. would that not be because of with windows there is a conversion that you dont have with linux since internet was based on unix?
08:32:11 PMNateUK the major problem with windows is it has made society lazy to the fact of trusting what is put in front of them ... I come from the times when you had to learn the hard way to get it easier ... now its about trusting that the software you use is in fact in your best interest and it is doing what it says on the box .. ok you could argue the other way not everyone wants to learn and need that ease of use .. but I think
08:32:11 PMNateUK its whos hands youre putting that trust in ...
08:32:58 PMlifeofpi what software do you need
08:33:57 PMNateUK I can see why those who stick with windows .. the great example is the games ere ... and granted it is good for them ... but for development purposes windows is a nightmare to fully get involved in thinking in that world ... i know some again like that world .. but the realness of development is the baremetal
08:34:40 PMDooley_the_Vulca I do not know as of yet since I have not done the conversion as of yet. but before with other experiences there would always be something that did not install right. but unlike now before I had NO source for an assist, now I have here and others that use linux
08:35:13 PMNateUK whats your daily run on your windows ?
08:35:15 PMDooley_the_Vulca is there a comp to visual basic for linux
08:35:19 PMNateUK things as a muct have
08:35:23 PMNateUK must
08:35:47 PMDooley_the_Vulca Plex media server is 24/7 and that shoud be a no brainer
08:36:06 PMNateUK i run 3 plex servers .. in linux .. so thats ok
08:36:34 PMDooley_the_Vulca steam, mame
08:36:45 PMNateUK steam works .. but there is a thing with that
08:36:49 PMNateUK depends on the games
08:36:54 PMDooley_the_Vulca why 3 servers? instead of 1
08:37:00 PMNateUK some have been ported some have not
08:37:39 PMRobbieF Thanks everyone!! Rushing, but hope you had fun!!!
08:37:42 PMNateUK ok .. i have one for outside which is a vlan ... one home bound for only ... and one testing (channel writing)
08:37:51 PMNateUK great job as always RobbieF
08:37:55 PMRobbieF :) Thanks
08:38:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca I know before with diablo 3 if you tried to play it with wine they would block you and close your account permanently
08:38:27 PMDooley_the_Vulca Thank You RobbieF
08:38:32 PMNateUK one testing is so i do not get in trouble with the misses when bringing up and down the plex server lol
08:39:18 PMDooley_the_Vulca yes, when they cant access it they access you
08:39:28 PMNateUK you got it lol
08:40:00 PMNateUK i am just checking that game .. i am sure that was one that has been ported but I may be mistaken
08:40:03 PMDooley_the_Vulca RobbieF you need to check out your audio, it was crackly most of the night
08:41:01 PMNateUK I am mistaken .. playonlinux is needed for the best results
08:41:02 PMRobbieF sorry; we'll work it out
08:41:06 PMRobbieF night all
08:41:22 PMDooley_the_Vulca a couple of years ago my kid was playing it and told me of someone whos account had been banned forever because of the emulator. they say it allows for cheating and will not allow it
08:41:36 PMDooley_the_Vulca dont know about now and that emulator
08:41:51 PMNateUK its sad when that happens ...
08:42:04 PMDooley_the_Vulca so playonlinux is the emulator or interface for windows software?
08:42:20 PMNateUK its a front end for wine which makes it easier
08:42:49 PMNateUK sets the correct windows installation files etc ...
08:43:34 PMNateUK its not a 100% .. not every does but I do not think anything can be
08:44:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca like the front ends for mame
08:44:17 PMNateUK yes
08:44:17 PMDooley_the_Vulca all the necessary settings for best results
08:45:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca but really would suck to get an account banned because they dont port it to linux...lol
08:45:56 PMNateUK why not take the other route
08:45:56 PMNateUK i know its a little bit of money but I always have had a soft spot for ras pi
08:46:27 PMNateUK that way you keep your main machine for what you need and a small compact machine to crash as many times as you like learning the os .. and all the fun things you can do with it
08:47:18 PMNateUK and that small usually gets spouse approval as well lol
08:48:23 PMDooley_the_Vulca well she has pretty much abandoned the pc. so I am free to do what I want. I always have really, used to teach computer classes in 94.
08:48:34 PMlifeofpi most people just dont know what the little pi can and will do
08:49:19 PMDooley_the_Vulca so I have always been in a situation where I was doing lots of experimentation. I am a fan of the pi2 havent had any pis yet
08:49:48 PMNateUK so you can already relate to the old ways .. and the pi as lifeofpi has said can do so much and takes anyone back to being a try computing experience with little expense
08:49:54 PMDooley_the_Vulca the browser and WPS office is all she might need to access
08:50:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca I started in 82 with a coco2
08:50:43 PMNateUK i am trying to introduce them into the schools in my area .. i am so fed up with windows machines and them using scratch .... I want them to use python and turtle etc .. like the old days when I used to use logo ...
08:50:50 PMDooley_the_Vulca and have almost always built my own, taught myself enough basic programming to have fun with it and write my own progs
08:51:18 PMNateUK i started off in 81/82 on the zx81 and zx80 .. so i can relate to you on some level ..
08:51:34 PMDooley_the_Vulca windows programming anymore is done so sloppily and nobody cares about the coding
08:52:07 PMNateUK but i will say visual basic is not the way to go ..
08:52:44 PMNateUK python ... c++ .... those areas especially in linux or even in cygwin on windows would be better learning
08:52:51 PMDooley_the_Vulca people who had the IBM PC would laugh, they spend 2400 for machine and software and I had 100 in the machine and could get more color and had floppy disks same as they did and still had 2300 in my pocket
08:53:50 PMNateUK I loved os/warp also the arch;s with the riscos just wished they had punished microsoft when they had the chance
08:53:57 PMDooley_the_Vulca I have looked at python code and it is easy enough to follow. just not knowing all the commands and formatting.
08:54:18 PMNateUK you work with in vb correct ?
08:54:43 PMDooley_the_Vulca I ran OS2/warp for several years then windows came out with a 32 bit system, right mouse click options, a bit behind though
08:54:50 PMDooley_the_Vulca yeah just for fun
08:55:20 PMNateUK so you understand if statements .. for loops ... ?
08:55:27 PMNateUK functions within vb ?
08:56:08 PMDooley_the_Vulca I wrote a media player prog so I could avoid media player because it sucked. I could use the plugin for it and play videos, load, and close real fast with no problems. but you click on media player... and you were just asking for issues
08:56:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca yes I do
08:56:19 PMNateUK the only real difference is the way python uses the statement .. the principle is the same
08:56:35 PMNateUK so in vb .. for t = 1 to 10 .... next
08:56:45 PMDooley_the_Vulca is there a visual interface for any versions of python?
08:57:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca next t
08:57:19 PMDooley_the_Vulca or next and increment all I think
08:57:21 PMNateUK you could just do next ;)
08:57:29 PMNateUK didnt really need the t
08:57:35 PMDooley_the_Vulca havent done any for a long time due to only one pc going right now
08:57:52 PMDooley_the_Vulca if you want to only increment the t variable
08:58:12 PMNateUK yes .. but the indent is enough in vb to just use next
08:58:33 PMNateUK vb 6 and above moved to that .. its only using the next t for reading ability
08:59:06 PMDooley_the_Vulca 6 is the one I used for a long while...
08:59:09 PMNateUK just short cuts in code lol
08:59:27 PMDooley_the_Vulca then MS came out with the freebie express packs
08:59:59 PMNateUK yes ... because they were losing the race on coding
09:00:05 PMNateUK and still are ..
09:00:31 PMDooley_the_Vulca a fell I know mentioned ruby and ruby on rails
09:00:38 PMDooley_the_Vulca fella
09:00:38 PMNateUK hence why they just about to bring out the windows surface book PM)< to try and compete wit the macbook lol
09:00:50 PMNateUK ruby is good .. major for web development
09:01:21 PMDooley_the_Vulca is there any kind of visual interface for python?
09:01:32 PMNateUK so is python using something like django
09:01:48 PMNateUK as far as I am aware it is code based
09:02:09 PMNateUK but when you download on any platform you can use idle
09:02:17 PMNateUK which is like a text editor ...
09:02:25 PMDooley_the_Vulca hell I make wimple webpages to play particular sets of videos I have and like
09:03:02 PMDooley_the_Vulca Idle is a text editor for writing python code? ok and so you have to compile to run
09:03:12 PMNateUK it comes with python install
09:03:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca ahh
09:03:41 PMNateUK do you remember logo ?? on the BBC machines .. forward(10) ... right(45)
09:04:39 PMNateUK if you do python comes with turtle which is the same type of thing .. fun for kids in a real basic way .. ok its no call of duty but they get a real grasp of real computing
09:05:43 PMlifeofpi you can try geany if you dont like idle
09:05:52 PMDooley_the_Vulca I have tried to get my youngest interested in computers for a career... no real interest
09:06:03 PMDooley_the_Vulca have you seen this ---->http://avc.inrim.it/html/
09:06:28 PMNateUK thanks lifeofpi i was struggling to think of any ... I always use sublime text lol
09:06:59 PMNateUK to be honest no i havent Dooley_the_Vulca
09:08:18 PMNateUK oh another language which is becoming a major player is QT .. just as i looked at that page
09:09:23 PMDooley_the_Vulca what is QT
09:10:47 PMDooley_the_Vulca QT looks cool
09:10:51 PMNateUK its a cross platform programming language .. as i recall it came from nokia very early on .. but has become a popular language in the past couple of years or so
09:11:01 PMlifeofpi i think mono is like vb
09:11:22 PMNateUK isnt mono a stalled project ??
09:11:35 PMDooley_the_Vulca QT handles html5 so no need for flash
09:12:22 PMNateUK only time really anyone needs flash today is for live streaming .. other than that should use anything but lol
09:14:43 PMDooley_the_Vulca firefox blocks flash and the plex server loads up and it uses flash
09:15:22 PMlifeofpi far as i know mono is not a stalled project
09:15:25 PMNateUK i use either kodi or plex home theatre ... never the browser unless doing a update library etc
09:17:01 PMNateUK the last i heard it was going to stop .. but it is defo good news if they are nor lifeofpi ...
09:17:10 PMNateUK *noy
09:17:13 PMNateUK *not
09:17:15 PMNateUK gessh
09:17:16 PMDooley_the_Vulca I cant get plex home theatre to load on my server machine, it gives me a splash screen the goes away and nothing. shouldn't I be able to run the theater on the same machine that I have the server running on?
09:17:34 PMNateUK yes
09:17:40 PMNateUK and any machine
09:17:45 PMNateUK on your lan
09:17:56 PMNateUK or if you have plex plus ... internet
09:18:33 PMDooley_the_Vulca I have theater on my laptop and it accesses my server fine, on my server machine I can bring up plex home server but if I try the theater nothing
09:18:56 PMDooley_the_Vulca I get it all across the internet without plex plus
09:20:34 PMDooley_the_Vulca wish I had gotten plus lifetime before the price went up...wow still worth it but
09:20:52 PMNateUK unless you are vpn'ing or something I would be cautious on leaving a port open
09:21:06 PMNateUK yes I got the lifetime when it was low
09:21:18 PMNateUK $70 odd I think it was ...
09:21:56 PMNateUK mind you there is a kind of clone to plex .. which is totally open source .. havent personally used it myself but heard good things about it https://emby.media/
09:23:13 PMDooley_the_Vulca I usually open and close it upon need of use
09:24:20 PMDooley_the_Vulca my god, my brothers internet tech couldnt solve their individual setup issues so he opened all the ports on there modem and said there you are
09:24:46 PMDooley_the_Vulca I was like ???? and told them they do not want to leave it like that at all
09:24:46 PMNateUK ermm that needs to be closed urgently

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