Chat Logs for Episode 431 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


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With 25 Posts:tek_studier
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Chat Logs:

06:58:03 PMWhiskey_Zero welcome to the chocolate channel!
06:58:14 PMRobbieF all smooth chocolatey goodness, all the time.
06:58:35 PMJeffWeston minutes t ogo. tonight is gonna be HOT!!!!
06:58:52 PMRobbieF let's try not to burn down the place, shall we?
06:59:01 PMJeffWeston no promises
06:59:03 PMDooley_da_Vulcan that would be a great start
06:59:10 PMDooley_da_Vulcan even better finish to a night
06:59:15 PMRobbieF lol
06:59:43 PMspiceJax It's Hot in Jax
06:59:54 PMSparklyballs it's raining here
07:00:11 PMSparklyballs but it's practically always raining here
07:00:17 PMBooker Snow... snow... and a bit more snow here
07:00:20 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I lived there for about 18 months.... was great, was never too hot for me. even said that when it was 106
07:00:29 PMspiceJax Hello Y'all
07:00:42 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Hello SpiceJax
07:00:46 PMspiceJax ohh touchy Rob lol
07:00:59 PMSparklyballs hi Rob
07:01:11 PMSparklyballs Robcam 1
07:01:48 PMalbertr Hey all
07:02:01 PMSparklyballs who ROBbed the title music
07:02:06 PMRobbieF hey albertr!
07:02:09 PMspiceJax if its tech its here?
07:03:01 PMspiceJax swooch
07:03:40 PMspiceJax no sound in space
07:04:01 PMSparklyballs they can't hear you scream allegedly either spiceJax
07:04:13 PMspiceJax lol
07:04:27 PMDJQuad heya peeps :)
07:05:55 PMSparklyballs RobbieF: needs tutorials ?
07:05:57 PMJeffWeston robbief is amazing!
07:06:05 PMSparklyballs noway
07:06:49 PMWhiskey_Zero Are they big enough for the drone registration number?
07:07:15 PMSparklyballs they have to a big drone with a red flag flying in front of them
07:08:49 PMspiceJax droning on drones lol
07:09:57 PMDJQuad saw my first drone race the other day. was slow blown away. they had cameras on them too
07:10:04 PMDJQuad so*
07:10:54 PMSparklyballs i started on a teenydrone and now i'm living under a bridge with a huey
07:11:41 PMSparklyballs they still make blackberries ?
07:12:01 PMDJQuad they're coming back :)
07:12:03 PMBooker I have one for work... not a fan at all
07:12:20 PMWhiskey_Zero They are available every july in the ditches around here
07:12:21 PMBooker but blackberry is going to android
07:12:34 PMDJQuad lol
07:13:32 PMspiceJax Did they ever have a 'Juicy' model?
07:14:02 PMBooker RobbieF - Download 1Mobile Market, android app store for blackberry
07:14:13 PMspiceJax too late we seen it
07:15:03 PMfking But we know it says Jeff.
07:15:41 PMSparklyballs << mac user
07:15:48 PMSparklyballs trash me some more, lol.
07:15:50 PMBooker ouch
07:17:12 PMJeffWeston haha my wife is a mac user also
07:17:21 PMJeffWeston we always shoot jabs at eachother
07:17:35 PMSparklyballs always make me laugh at the air show here when people are using flash to take pics of aircraft half a million miles away.
07:21:04 PMSparklyballs i like the original.....
07:22:59 PMBobK54 ahhhhhhh. Teeny Drones are out of stock.
07:23:52 PMSparklyballs what are the auto levels like on the gimp ?
07:24:22 PMDooley_da_Vulcan flash for pics of aircraft is like being asked if putting a satellite dish on a pole 20 feet high will help
07:25:53 PMrevdjenk go to the light!!!
07:26:04 PMBooker it burns my eyes
07:26:19 PMNelson1 hey Robbie
07:26:31 PMJeffWeston haha booker
07:26:46 PMtek_studier paint.net has some good functions also
07:26:54 PMSparklyballs Run to the light, Carol Anne
07:27:27 PM_Leland_ The web page won't render. Were else to view live?
07:28:21 PMJeffWeston bobk54, teeny drones are in high demand. we are working to get levels back up
07:28:36 PMBobK54 thanks Jeff!
07:30:16 PMtek_studier it is good we have opensource programs these days saves spending alot of money on alternatives
07:30:25 PMDooley_da_Vulcan compared to the good ones, right JeffWeston
07:30:46 PMSparklyballs they'll send drones to your house if you press the down thumb
07:31:00 PMRobbieF hope you're enjoying the show!
07:31:02 PMRobbieF Hi Nelson1
07:31:04 PMRobbieF nice to see you again
07:31:16 PMtek_studier good show as always
07:31:22 PMRobbieF why thank you :)
07:31:26 PMRobbieF we're only at the 1/2 point!
07:31:28 PMRobbieF :)
07:31:33 PM_Leland_ Hi Rob
07:31:34 PMNelson1 thanks. I try to drop by and watch the show as much as I can
07:31:50 PMWhiskey_Zero G'night folks, gotta take off early 2night. See y'all next week.
07:32:14 PMSparklyballs i'm wondering what makes a drone more dangerous once the pilot reaches 13
07:33:11 PMDooley_da_Vulcan washing machines and health care..... can we say diversify
07:33:38 PMNelson1 i'm back working with Frank again as of Jan 1 so I will see if I can get him to do some some with you
07:33:59 PMSparklyballs steam powered laptop
07:35:00 PMrevdjenk hello again...
07:35:37 PMNelson1 jeff's doing a GREAT JOB on the news.
07:36:10 PMBooker no registration in Canada, right?
07:36:31 PMtek_studier sky deck sound like vertigo
07:36:37 PMSparklyballs get the best view of a crash
07:37:26 PMSparklyballs did robbie just say he'd do the deed in the sky deck ?
07:37:32 PMtek_studier would be amazing clear roof airplane
07:37:32 PMDooley_da_Vulcan yet they are wanting to cut down the places to have info on teens? No need for them to collect info on teens. make it required for the parents to register. not kids
07:38:02 PMtek_studier and a clear floor panels on plane
07:38:42 PMDooley_da_Vulcan great unless you have RLS
07:39:07 PMBooker How does the arduino work in the washing machine?
07:39:13 PM_Leland_ I hope you can get to the Blynk / Andriod ? Arduino Sever set-up question I sent in.
07:39:44 PMDooley_da_Vulcan soldering... great
07:40:05 PMSparklyballs if you're watching any episodes of friends, you're probably dead.
07:40:12 PMDooley_da_Vulcan always avoid cold solder joints.....tsk tsk.....will put you in the group with MS
07:40:15 PMtek_studier was watching amazing home made cnc machine powered by arduino earlier
07:40:16 PM_Leland_ Blynk offers a dashboard on you Android to control your Arduiono.
07:40:45 PMSparklyballs wot's soddering
07:40:56 PMDooley_da_Vulcan tried to order some for a christmas present....lol
07:41:01 PMSparklyballs why the dropped 'l' ?
07:41:13 PM_Leland_ SMT
07:41:20 PMDooley_da_Vulcan had to go get items from the DOCTOR WHO AMERICA WAREHOUSE
07:41:41 PMDooley_da_Vulcan you could throw a rock and do more damage, and get it farther
07:42:03 PMspiceJax you could poke your eye out
07:42:31 PMtek_studier the only arduino project i have done so far is the flashing led have been studying many other projects though
07:42:48 PMDooley_da_Vulcan heat the two surfaces and allow them to melt the solder, if you melt the solder with the iron, you get a cold joint which often does not work
07:42:51 PMBooker I've worked quite a bit with arduino
07:43:07 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have been doing this with my Superman mouse for 5 years
07:43:42 PMDooley_da_Vulcan the wires break where they move just outside the mouse
07:43:47 PMtek_studier had a look at scratch for arduino a week or so ago
07:44:37 PMtek_studier makes coding a bit faster
07:44:46 PMNelson1 saudering wars !!!!
07:45:15 PM_Leland_ Tin your tip first
07:45:15 PMBooker weller makes the best soldering irons!
07:45:19 PMDooley_da_Vulcan soldering, and the L is very mild
07:45:20 PMrevdjenk same in the States
07:45:25 PMSparklyballs solder
07:45:34 PMSparklyballs there's an l in the word people.
07:45:37 PMNelson1 saldering wars !!!!!
07:45:47 PM_Leland_ 15 watts is better
07:45:50 PMBobK54 in new yawk it was soddering too. a british friend said sol-der, WITH the L
07:45:55 PMNelson1 soldering wars !!!!!!!!!
07:46:00 PMSparklyballs are troops sodas ?
07:46:00 PMtek_studier 1000 watts is a good iron to use melts the solder well
07:46:01 PMDooley_da_Vulcan never let the iron slide down into your boot...... it BURNS
07:46:17 PMGuest_1380 I hope use non lead solder as lead ban in uk most solder is made tin
07:46:17 PMDooley_da_Vulcan NOT 1000 for electronics
07:46:43 PMDooley_da_Vulcan you can heat your circuitry and it pull it of of your circuit board
07:47:02 PM_Leland_ Rosin ne acid
07:47:18 PMtek_studier low heat irons create alot of dry and bad joints
07:47:27 PMBooker Wash your hands after handling solder, avoid lead toxicity
07:47:43 PMDooley_da_Vulcan not if you heat your surfaces and have them melt the solder
07:47:53 PMSparklyballs is there hard core ?
07:47:58 PMGuest_1380 my soldring iron give great uncle it made in 1930 and still work 100 w good heaver solding
07:48:17 PMDooley_da_Vulcan used to do work doing tv vcr repairs, replacing surface mounted components
07:48:27 PM_Leland_ great for auto shop
07:48:51 PM_Leland_ SMT needs 15watts or station
07:48:57 PMGuest_1380 it must old soldring iron it over 85 years old
07:49:00 PMtek_studier i use gas refill soldering iron very cheap these days and it gives good heat for all types of jobs
07:49:05 PMDooley_da_Vulcan the adhesive that holds the trace to a board can fail with to much heat
07:49:44 PMBooker I've definitely pulled traces up by accident
07:49:53 PMDooley_da_Vulcan too much heat
07:50:08 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and use a wet sponge to keep your tip very clean
07:50:11 PMBobK54 put the strain releif on the wire before stripping....easier
07:50:14 PM_Leland_ Slit shot .177 pellets the taste the same.
07:50:24 PMGuest_1380 if want to do very heavy solding I use blowland don't know many watts ha ha ha
07:50:27 PMBooker mmm.... lead
07:50:35 PMDooley_da_Vulcan wipe your hot tip on the wet sponge, great cleaning
07:51:03 PMtek_studier the word flux in soldering always makes me think of the flux capacitor
07:51:04 PM_Leland_ strain relief 7&Seven
07:51:10 PMGuest_1380 damp cloth to clean soldring iron
07:51:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan use only one side of the stripper and your thumb
07:51:39 PMDooley_da_Vulcan @JeffWeston use only one side of the stripper and your thumb
07:51:45 PM_Leland_ keep the tip tinned
07:51:52 PMtek_studier tin the wire
07:52:00 PMSparklyballs i roll a stanley round the wire
07:52:27 PMGuest_1380 not netureal its brade Robbie
07:52:44 PMBobK54 the industry is trying to "get the lead out". somebody had to say it. gotta watch out for wiskers though.
07:52:46 PMtek_studier tin the wire echos in my mind from 12 months of soldering lessons make wire looms etc
07:52:55 PMDooley_da_Vulcan always your strain relief before you solder and tinning makes it lots easier, _Leland_ you are correct
07:53:31 PM_Leland_ I own a radiator shop
07:53:45 PMGWG Evening
07:53:54 PM_Leland_ You sweat solder
07:53:56 PMNelson1 can see it perfectly
07:54:12 PMGuest_1380 no contnutery test with meter make shaw have pick up PIECE brade cause short
07:54:12 PMBobK54 uh....strain releif????? :)
07:54:15 PMtek_studier the instructor every lesson used say a million times tin the wire
07:54:31 PMDooley_da_Vulcan when you try transistors that are the size of the end of a kitchen match, and that is 3 seperate soldering surfaces
07:54:34 PMSparklyballs the wife's chopping board again
07:54:38 PMspiceJax tin the wire first
07:54:55 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Tin your wire.....lol
07:55:05 PMBooker Tinning the wire first is definitely the best way.
07:55:13 PMtek_studier lol
07:55:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan heat your metal, let it melt your solder
07:55:19 PMDooley_da_Vulcan lol
07:55:22 PM_Leland_ an extra alligator clip for clamp and heat sink
07:56:47 PMspiceJax will it hold for child use?
07:56:53 PMtek_studier clamps are good
07:57:05 PMDooley_da_Vulcan used to do this with wire in the middle of a length and use insulation off of larger wire and slide it over, poor teenagers heat shrink tubing
07:57:06 PMDooley_da_Vulcan lol
07:57:09 PMtek_studier saves burning fingers
07:57:17 PMBobK54 it will hold up under child use with a strain releif.......
07:57:43 PMGuest_1380 keep wire clean as dirt can make solded joint no good
07:57:44 PM_Leland_ strip the wire with your front teeth super glue it with conductive model train rain glue, spray with activator close it up through it at your kid.
07:58:21 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Always used strain reliefs when wiring electrical equipment in Papa Johns
07:58:34 PMDooley_da_Vulcan make the connection last lot longer
07:58:46 PMGuest_1380 drop super glue of corder pants it smokes
07:58:55 PMspiceJax did he put the other part on the wire?
07:58:58 PMSparklyballs twist all the wires together, shove the plug on and if it goes bang, blame the dog.
07:59:05 PMDooley_da_Vulcan front teeth was my wire strippers for years....lol
07:59:22 PMDooley_da_Vulcan never had to worry about the right size...lol
07:59:37 PMDooley_da_Vulcan thought I was the only fool doing that...lol
07:59:52 PMSparklyballs how's that shane macgowan mouth going Dooley_da_Vulcan
07:59:53 PMBobK54 ooooppppps
08:00:00 PMspiceJax lol I knew it
08:00:00 PMDooley_da_Vulcan that isnt bad
08:00:03 PMtek_studier i just noticed the sleeve was missing
08:00:20 PMtek_studier oops
08:00:26 PMNelson1 Great show Robbie !!!
08:00:34 PMGuest_1380 put some electric tape will do instead sleeve
08:00:40 PM_Leland_ Ventilation!!!!
08:00:47 PMBobK54 sleeve - aka strain relief. or backshell in aerosapce parlancd
08:00:49 PMspiceJax so good demo on how not to do it lol fun
08:01:21 PMspiceJax like the weller
08:01:37 PMDooley_da_Vulcan desoldering iron
08:01:43 PMSparklyballs meanwhile at chez RobbieF all the worksurfaces have knife slash marks on them cos RobbieF is using all the chopping boards in the studio.
08:01:44 PMBobK54 I have fogotten to put on the sleeve/strain relief SO many times that its burned into my brain now. also forget some shrink tube too. same thing
08:02:14 PM_Leland_ 15watts to 60watts variable solder kit $12 e-bay
08:02:16 PMrevdjenk BobK54: and remember to put shrink tube on first!
08:02:16 PMtek_studier thanks for the show guys
08:02:42 PMspiceJax how much was is weller?
08:02:46 PMNelson1 great show. Good job guys !!
08:02:49 PM_Leland_ wave soldering
08:02:51 PMBobK54 and put the shrink tube further up the wire so it doesnt shrink during soldering
08:02:57 PMDooley_da_Vulcan a shrink tube around it all inside the metal first would work as a strain relief
08:03:06 PMspiceJax HNY
08:03:09 PMrevdjenk Nerry Christmas RobbieF and JeffWeston
08:03:14 PMBobK54 wow, afer 8:00 ALREADY????
08:03:18 PM_Leland_ Merry Ho Ho!!
08:03:20 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Merry Christmas to ALL
08:03:24 PMrevdjenk BobK54: shhhhh
08:03:41 PMBobK54 night all. good show guys
08:03:58 PMJeffWeston thanks for joining everyone. another great night!!!
08:04:02 PMSparklyballs don't call him rob on the sign off JeffWeston
08:04:16 PMBooker Thanks guys.
08:04:17 PMspiceJax Jeff whats your day job?
08:04:28 PMRobbieF Jeff's a superhero by day
08:04:36 PMJeffWeston i am a staff rep for a union...kind of like an unofficial labour lawyer
08:04:37 PMspiceJax lol
08:04:38 PMrevdjenk hee hee
08:04:38 PMDooley_da_Vulcan really sucks to wire in 3 electrical service cables and as you tighten up the last fitting you realize you forgot the box fitting nut.
08:04:39 PMJeffWeston hahaha robbief
08:04:39 PM_Leland_ CHECK OUT HMI CONTROLLER ON GOGGLE PLAY OR BLYNK Merry X-mas..........
08:04:53 PMNelson1 great show guys !!!
08:05:00 PMRobbieF Thanks Nelson1
08:05:11 PMNelson1 keep up the good work
08:05:11 PMrevdjenk g'nite all!
08:05:24 PMDooley_da_Vulcan @Robbie & Jeff Great show
08:05:33 PMspiceJax I see why you are so well spoken good job on Cat5
08:05:42 PMDooley_da_Vulcan Merry Christmas to all of you and your families
08:05:59 PM_Leland_ I like your move to include hardware Robbie....
08:06:14 PMtek_studier thanks as always for the great entertainment on a tuesday
08:06:48 PMSparklyballs movie time, later folks, great show as always RobbieF and JeffWeston
08:07:14 PMspiceJax bye y'all
08:08:01 PMtek_studier be well all gn
08:08:30 PMMaineGeek75 hi all. is there a show tonight...been away for a while...
08:08:58 PMMaineGeek75 nvm...i missed it :(
08:10:02 PM_Leland_ AC/HD I'm on a highway to_Hey look a Rabbit.
08:12:49 PMDooley_da_Vulcan anyone here for a point linux question?
08:13:15 PM_Leland_ I will try..
08:13:28 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I installed from a USB onto a SSD point linux and all I get is the flashing cursor
08:14:04 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I am running off the flash drive boot now, was troubleshooting when show time came up
08:14:13 PMDooley_da_Vulcan of course I had to stop
08:14:42 PM_Leland_ Sounds like a mount point issue did you look a gpated drive info?
08:15:00 PMDooley_da_Vulcan was getting ready to check partition flags
08:15:21 PM_Leland_ Yes I did the same
08:15:31 PMDooley_da_Vulcan shouldnt installing have made partition flagged as boot
08:16:13 PM_Leland_ I am not sure that SSD reads the same
08:16:25 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I remember at times in DOS that you would get NO ROM BASIC SYSTEM HALTED
08:16:43 PM_Leland_ I format mine first always
08:16:52 PMDooley_da_Vulcan and for years I seen people could not figure it out..lol
08:16:56 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ah
08:17:25 PM_Leland_ well flash is here with ARM
08:17:26 PMDooley_da_Vulcan will check and reformat if necessary. what partition setup would you recommend for a 120 gig drive
08:17:49 PM_Leland_ That depends
08:17:57 PMDooley_da_Vulcan on
08:17:59 PMDooley_da_Vulcan ?
08:19:03 PM_Leland_ server_ raid_ un-raid?_ Un-sure
08:19:18 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I have tried to find people or persons here locally that have a pc interest, you know to do things with..... like looking for a white elephant
08:19:20 PM_Leland_ Thats why I tune in
08:19:47 PM_Leland_ I do Arduino
08:19:50 PMDooley_da_Vulcan none of the above, just gonna be 2 ssd one windows and one point linux
08:20:57 PM_Leland_ If first choice is wrong solid state loads so fast try them all then you will know
08:20:58 PMDooley_da_Vulcan I could find more people locally when I was on a 16 channel bbs on a radio shack color computer 2 then I can now on a wold wide connection. I am sure more people in indianapolis are online now than then
08:21:36 PM_Leland_ Indy I am in Mendocino
08:21:48 PM_Leland_ They are all stoned
08:22:13 PMDooley_da_Vulcan oh, you in California ?
08:23:02 PM_Leland_ Ya it sucks, I am the only patriot in this state
08:23:15 PMDooley_da_Vulcan patriot meaning?
08:23:19 PM_Leland_ I am voodsandman
08:23:53 PM_Leland_ They are all librals and govt grants
08:24:18 PM_Leland_ No private industry
08:24:33 PM_Leland_ Made in USA
08:25:47 PMDooley_da_Vulcan but you do have better weather than here
08:25:48 PM_Leland_ It's 5.25 Dinner time. Good Luck..
08:26:07 PMDooley_da_Vulcan thank you and enjoy your dinner
08:26:25 PM_Leland_ You can't save the economy with good weather
08:27:38 PMDooley_da_Vulcan no but you do have more options for industry in nicer weather. I would think anyways
08:27:44 PMDooley_da_Vulcan he is gone

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
BobK54
Booker
DJQuad
Dooley_da_Vulcan
GWG
Guest_1380
JeffWeston
MaineGeek75
Nelson1
RobbieF
Sparklyballs
Whiskey_Zero
_Leland_
albertr
fking
revdjenk
spiceJax
tek_studier