Chat Logs for Episode 452 — #Category5 on irc.freenode.net / cat5.tv/discord


MVP's:

With 94 Posts:TNFrankinAZ
With 60 Posts:revdjenk
With 55 Posts:agamotto
With 40 Posts:Sparklyballs
With 30 Posts:jlim


Chat Logs:

06:58:04 PMjlim hry
06:58:07 PMjlim hey
06:58:08 PMTNFrankinAZ probably need to put a couple underscores in there to break up the Frank, in and AZ.
06:58:25 PMJeffWeston hey all, tonight we have an interview with John Hornick, a 3D printing guru. If you have questions feel free ot send em and we will try to get them in
06:58:34 PMjlim RobbieF: \o
06:58:37 PMagamotto Hallo, all!
06:58:46 PMTNFrankinAZ Hey agamotto, how have you been?
06:59:17 PMDennis_Kelley TNFrankinAZ did you move?
06:59:50 PMnapa_polarbear not bad,been moveing
06:59:50 PMTNFrankinAZ Yep, we moved last September back to AZ. My wife's family is here and she wanted to come back so Good Bye Tennessee, Hellow Arizona.
07:00:13 PMlichenx1 JeffWeston, what is the most complex thing he has printed?
07:00:32 PMDennis_Kelley so AZFrank glad to hear it
07:00:43 PMagamotto I am well. I just have had an adjustment at work that has me working 9-6 most weekdays
07:00:51 PMTNFrankinAZ been trying to get use to the heat again. I was gone for 20 years and was a lot younger and thiner back then.LOL
07:01:10 PMTNFrankinAZ LOL, yep, guess I could go by AZFrank now.
07:01:33 PMjlim blank screen
07:01:47 PMjlim there it is
07:01:51 PMDennis_Kelley you know we are!
07:01:53 PMSparklyballs if there were two franks in arizona, could be franksaz
07:02:04 PMTNFrankinAZ I have much better bandwidth now, 50Mb/s with Cox.
07:02:10 PMjlim where is shasha?
07:02:32 PMagamotto Sascha has a job that doesn't let her be here every Tuesday
07:02:35 PMagamotto Like me
07:03:02 PMjlim RobbieF: \o
07:03:16 PMJeffWeston ok thanks for the question lichenx1
07:03:37 PMTNFrankinAZ The more things change the more they stay the same, LOL.
07:03:43 PMagamotto TNFrankinAZ: Yes, but thankfully, you no longer have to worry about humidity and tornadoes, just haboobs
07:03:57 PMSparklyballs are we near to 3d printing body parts ?
07:03:59 PMTNFrankinAZ Just heat and thirst, LOL
07:04:18 PMSparklyballs i want new knees
07:04:28 PMTNFrankinAZ Dust Storms, Flooding, Gangs, Traffic. :-D
07:04:54 PMJeffWeston thanks sparklyballs
07:05:13 PMrevdjenk hey JeffWeston !
07:05:19 PMledzep Haven't been here for a long time so want to say hi.
07:05:21 PMJeffWeston hey REv
07:05:36 PMTNFrankinAZ ledzep, neither have I. Welcome back.
07:05:38 PMledzep Interesting topic.
07:05:47 PMjlim rms wouldn't like this guy right off the bat lol
07:06:29 PMrevdjenk JeffWeston: have a site issue, couldn't enter question from cat5 site. the "puzzle" has me puzzled. I type the words or phrases, but the question never goes through. So I'll send it here.
07:06:35 PMrevdjenk JeffWeston: I switched completely to Inbox from Gmail just three weeks ago, thinking that I had read that Google was moving toward Inbox fulltime.
07:06:35 PMrevdjenk However, I have noticed that since moving to Inbox opening emails/attachments are MUUUUCH slower, often 15 seconds between click and email being open. Have you noticed this? Is there news/alerts/fixes for this?
07:06:37 PMTNFrankinAZ Primitive form of the Replicator in Star Trek
07:07:47 PMjlim i watch amateur youtube content so i have no issues with intelectual property
07:08:08 PMTNFrankinAZ As long as you're not selling things you make I don't see the harm.
07:09:25 PMSparklyballs cnc for plastics will be a dead industry
07:09:51 PMTNFrankinAZ Yep, and they may even modify it to make stuff out of metal as well.
07:10:06 PMrevdjenk There are people here in WV which don't understand this about coal!
07:10:26 PMSparklyballs coal and papermills in WV
07:10:52 PMagamotto Shheessssh, more wildfires in Alberta?
07:11:29 PMledzep Recycling right
07:13:00 PMrevdjenk costs will be higher, to make the singular part, but it will be personalized and unique
07:13:47 PMTNFrankinAZ You could have the 3D printers at places like Staple's where you take the software in and they'll print it for you same as they make copies now.
07:14:17 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: tends to take a while!
07:14:45 PMrevdjenk hey TNFrankinAZ is this the old tennesee frank who hasn't been here for a time?
07:15:05 PMTNFrankinAZ Yep, drop off the software for what you want and pick it up tomorrow. Yep, it's me, it's me, it's Tennessee, LOL
07:15:17 PMTNFrankinAZ Only living in Arizona now.
07:15:22 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: now is AZ woohoo
07:15:35 PMTNFrankinAZ woohot, LOL
07:15:41 PMSparklyballs can someone print me a coffee
07:15:51 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: hee hee
07:16:06 PMledzep I think dentists use 3d printing
07:16:30 PMTNFrankinAZ China is NOT going to like this. It'll take away a lot of their manufacturing business same as they did to us.
07:16:38 PMagamotto ledzep: Mine does.
07:17:13 PMJeffWeston i bet they will capatilize on it ATN
07:18:13 PMTNFrankinAZ So can they make compisite things where the core would be one thing and the outside would be another thing.
07:18:14 PMagamotto Aren't a lot of them expiring in the next year or so?
07:18:17 PMrevdjenk print "all of that" yes, but the equipment and tooling for that will be expensive! or put out poor items!
07:18:57 PMSparklyballs do you think that there will be firmware blocking of certain things to be printed, kind of like some laser copiers won't copy banknotes ?
07:19:22 PMTNFrankinAZ Even if they do you can always hack it.
07:21:33 PMjlim oops
07:21:33 PMTNFrankinAZ Ahh, good, it wasn't just me.
07:21:33 PMledzep is there a connection problem
07:21:33 PMTNFrankinAZ seems to be.
07:21:33 PMjlim TNFrankinAZ: yup just what i was thinking
07:21:33 PMledzep froze here
07:22:51 PMledzep Had to refresh.
07:23:30 PMjlim i use as little proprietary thing as possible
07:23:35 PMTNFrankinAZ Too late, you can already make AR Lowers.
07:24:41 PMTNFrankinAZ Just use a Banana AS a weapon,LOL
07:25:26 PMjlim is it true that the happy birthday song is copy written?
07:25:34 PMTNFrankinAZ Yep,
07:26:00 PMTNFrankinAZ If you use it for personal use it's ok but when they sing it in a movie they have to pay a royality
07:26:03 PMjlim sheesh you gotta love this copy write crap
07:26:20 PMTNFrankinAZ That's why I like CopyLeft. i.e. Open Source
07:26:27 PMjlim yup
07:26:29 PMTNFrankinAZ GPL/Linux stuff
07:26:32 PMjlim me too
07:27:25 PMTNFrankinAZ That's because when you print it you actually are kind of growing it one layer at a time.
07:29:44 PMjlim live feed just locked up here
07:29:46 PMTNFrankinAZ It will be cool when they can print organs for tranplants. That'd save a lot of lives.
07:30:02 PMTNFrankinAZ yep
07:30:30 PMJeffWeston1 i love the idea of bioprinting
07:30:32 PMjlim there it goes again
07:30:36 PMTNFrankinAZ Doesn't Firefox have an app now where you can video chat?
07:30:46 PMrevdjenk printing skin for fire victims
07:31:03 PMTNFrankinAZ Lots of possibilities
07:31:18 PMSparklyballs can they print a heart for hilary clinton ?
07:31:22 PMTNFrankinAZ Lungs
07:31:26 PMTNFrankinAZ Pancress
07:31:50 PMrevdjenk watercress
07:31:53 PMagamotto cybernetic replacements
07:31:59 PMTNFrankinAZ Marlin Monroe
07:32:04 PMJeffWeston1 terminator and T-1000
07:32:36 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: of course, its Bernie!
07:32:57 PMSparklyballs i want a third hand so i can flip the bird to anyone whoever says to me you need 3 hands
07:33:04 PMjlim anybody else experiencing intermittant issues with the live feed?
07:33:15 PMTNFrankinAZ Yep but it's back now.
07:33:23 PMSparklyballs it's dropping now and then jlim
07:33:25 PMrevdjenk jlim: I had a momentary freeze about 5 minutes ago
07:33:30 PMSparklyballs printing kids ?
07:33:33 PMTNFrankinAZ They said we'd never have phones or TV's in every home
07:33:35 PMjlim still happening here
07:33:36 PMSparklyballs scary
07:33:41 PMTNFrankinAZ Now we've got em' in our pocket
07:33:50 PMrevdjenk printing houses
07:34:01 PMTNFrankinAZ That would take a HUGE printer
07:34:10 PMSparklyballs we didn't adopt, we printed our little darling
07:34:24 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: it is already being done... concrete mainly
07:34:37 PMTNFrankinAZ didn't know that.
07:35:20 PMSparklyballs young minds absorb things so much better than adults
07:35:36 PMagamotto Video cameras? Just the Players for VCR were rather expensive
07:35:55 PMTNFrankinAZ We use to make slingshots out of old bike tires and a tree branch.
07:36:12 PMSparklyballs when i was a kid the most high tech thing around was a binatone tennis game
07:36:56 PMSparklyballs i bought my 3rd Rpi the other day
07:36:59 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: here's one: http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/3d-house-printer-can-crank-out-thousand-square-feet-day.html
07:37:02 PMTNFrankinAZ I want a Replicator and I want it NOW, LOL
07:37:12 PMagamotto chuckle
07:37:21 PMTNFrankinAZ or tomorrow if NOW is too soon.
07:37:25 PMSparklyballs psshh last time i won something it couldn't be shipped to the uk....
07:37:28 PMjlim wish they asked for his opinion of copy left
07:37:34 PMjlim lol
07:37:44 PMTNFrankinAZ yep.
07:37:58 PMTNFrankinAZ We won't hold it against him
07:38:01 PMjlim would have loved to here it
07:38:10 PMrevdjenk hey RobbieF
07:38:15 PMSparklyballs must be the only lawyer we won't drown....
07:38:29 PMjlim hey
07:38:32 PMlichenx1 HI
07:38:51 PMagamotto At least you aren't singing Barney songs
07:38:58 PMJeffWeston1 amen to that!
07:38:59 PMTNFrankinAZ Hey ABQTKY, how ya' been? I'm in AZ now
07:39:00 PMrevdjenk the only podcast which is a musical!
07:39:03 PMjlim RobbieF: should have asked for his opinion of copyleft lol
07:39:26 PMrevdjenk take over JeffWeston1 !
07:39:52 PMjlim hahaa
07:39:55 PMagamotto You can't possibly be worse than Imelda Marcos....
07:40:03 PMrevdjenk or sing more than 30 seconds
07:40:07 PMTNFrankinAZ Boil the Water??? Is someone having a baby or something?
07:40:17 PMSparklyballs hot towels and cigars
07:40:36 PMrevdjenk modern violin
07:40:41 PMABQTKY TNFrank...or AZFrank ?? THIS week it took ove half an hour to get into the chat room.. Oh, well. Meanwhile, welcome back to the Category 5 gang!!
07:40:52 PMjlim this is going to get pulled from youtube now lol
07:40:54 PMagamotto Hmmm, looks like something out of Farscape
07:41:15 PMTNFrankinAZ Thanks ABQTKY, guess I may need to change my name,LOL
07:41:26 PMTNFrankinAZ Looks like something Spock would play.
07:41:37 PMagamotto You mean we are getting the unexpurgated version?
07:41:48 PMrevdjenk agamotto: big word!
07:42:01 PMrevdjenk unabridged
07:42:13 PMrevdjenk the whole enchilada!
07:43:32 PMTNFrankinAZ Long as they're under 250 grams or you'll have to reigester them here in the U.S.
07:43:54 PMrevdjenk partially polarized light?
07:44:02 PMagamotto interesting concept
07:44:55 PMSparklyballs so there you have a binary state in the angular momentum
07:45:09 PMrevdjenk it is spin RobbieF
07:45:10 PMagamotto perhaps the medium it is travelling through?
07:45:39 PMTNFrankinAZ LOL, when I had CenturyLInk it was speed of snail,
07:45:50 PMTNFrankinAZ Cox is way faster
07:46:41 PMrevdjenk I think it may have a connection with quantum quark spin? or polarization of light?
07:46:57 PMTNFrankinAZ The thing will go through the thing faster than the other thing use to go.
07:47:49 PMrevdjenk or our eyes/brains reject light of a certain angular momentum to help us from being overwhelmed with info?
07:47:53 PMjlim i don't own any i-things
07:47:57 PMTNFrankinAZ But it does, so there.
07:48:13 PMagamotto You have to remember, if Apple isn't making 30% off of it, they won't allow it to exist
07:48:53 PMSparklyballs but that could all be supposition and reading too much into apples email;
07:49:00 PMTNFrankinAZ Like when we had the StageFright thing with Android
07:49:17 PMTNFrankinAZ I still have the app on my phone.
07:49:24 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: which wasn't a thing
07:49:35 PMTNFrankinAZ but got a patch anyway,LOL
07:49:37 PMrevdjenk *much of a thing
07:49:44 PMTNFrankinAZ FBI, yep
07:49:48 PMjlim fbi paid hacker over a million
07:50:35 PMTNFrankinAZ Sounds like "Maxium Overdrive" all over again.
07:50:40 PMjlim i got into the wrong business lol
07:50:59 PMrevdjenk hey RobbieF - I got a new job!! (but won't start until September!)
07:51:03 PMSparklyballs self driven vehicles held up by 3d printed traffic cones..... irony.
07:51:37 PMrevdjenk of go to sleep
07:51:38 PMalpeck Sparklyballs: haha
07:52:16 PMTNFrankinAZ Until they get hacked then all hell will break lose
07:53:32 PMrevdjenk which is why highway design encorporates curves... to keep things "interesting"
07:54:17 PMagamotto Lane Keep Assist and the radar/laser Cruise Control can take care of most of that
07:56:00 PMTNFrankinAZ implants, LOL
07:56:07 PMSparklyballs you can tell silicone, it doesn't wobble the same ;)
07:56:18 PMrevdjenk TNFrankinAZ: RobbieF just made a boob of us!
07:56:24 PMagamotto "Siri, what is my class about today?"
07:56:47 PMTNFrankinAZ LOL, Silly Cone......................3D Printed.
07:56:51 PMagamotto Fake boobs are like Nazis... they don't dance, they don't sing...
07:57:24 PMSparklyballs the topic of todays class is how to beat the crap out of cortana
07:57:31 PMrevdjenk focus on the 3%
07:57:32 PMTNFrankinAZ Or replace real people so that we become obsolete
07:57:56 PMSparklyballs turing test on the students ?
07:57:59 PMagamotto Most of your 'live chat' website helpers are run this way
07:59:35 PMSparklyballs also allows sega to sell old rope
08:00:04 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: Garbee was constructed just for this purpose
08:00:18 PMSparklyballs rope salesman ?
08:00:33 PMrevdjenk whoops, Sparklyballs that should be for agamotto
08:00:44 PMagamotto Wow... Nine months of effort for that? snicker
08:00:47 PMrevdjenk thanks JeffWeston1
08:01:18 PMrevdjenk improv
08:01:49 PMTNFrankinAZ Just go with it Jeff, LOL
08:02:08 PMSparklyballs can i recommend 123reg.co.uk
08:02:11 PMSparklyballs snickers
08:02:17 PMrevdjenk flow with the go, ffejnotsew
08:02:55 PMagamotto Cue card in 3....2....1
08:03:06 PMTNFrankinAZ Wordpress is a hacker's dream.
08:03:45 PMagamotto JeffWeston1: In theory, it would be easy... .set up your tanks of the four amino acids, and inkjet away
08:03:50 PMalpeck there are patents on DNA which should have never been allowed
08:03:51 PMlyndon I am so late
08:03:56 PMTNFrankinAZ We studied it a little bit back in 2005 when I took my CAD/Detail Drafting Course.
08:04:16 PMrevdjenk I would imagine they would use your own DNA for bioprinting of your body replacement parts, JeffWeston1
08:04:31 PMSparklyballs i was framed /s printed
08:04:35 PMagamotto If you want a book that explores this, there is a Sci-Fi book titled Directive 51 that explores the idea of using inkjet printers to 3D print a custom virus
08:04:42 PMTNFrankinAZ They would have to grow a batch of your DNA to use to print what you needed so your body wouldn't reject it.
08:04:52 PMrevdjenk ibm is using dna for future storage
08:04:55 PMSparklyballs if your hand was printed, then you could be framed....
08:04:59 PMrevdjenk or working on that
08:04:59 PMagamotto alpeck: BRACA1?
08:05:23 PMrevdjenk Sparklyballs: that would be an art theft?
08:05:48 PMlyndon I m not going to even try to understand this...
08:05:48 PMagamotto Sparklyballs: We would mostly have the same problems as the Romulans... single-bit errors in the encoding/replicating
08:06:09 PMTNFrankinAZ Hello Sir
08:06:21 PMTNFrankinAZ Flash back to Full Metal Jacket,
08:06:38 PMDennis_Kelley the ladies may belch also!
08:06:42 PMlyndon =)
08:06:45 PMrevdjenk that sounds like work!!
08:07:00 PMSparklyballs i belched recently
08:07:09 PMTNFrankinAZ You mean you can't use a herring?
08:07:34 PMlyndon pickled?
08:07:47 PMTNFrankinAZ Monty Python ref. LOL
08:07:56 PMTNFrankinAZ Matae'
08:08:00 PMTNFrankinAZ Ma Tae
08:08:04 PMagamotto mein dist slappern mit a fisk!
08:08:08 PMGWG Missed the show again. Darn
08:08:09 PMlyndon =)
08:08:15 PMagamotto matAY
08:08:18 PMlyndon me too
08:08:23 PMTNFrankinAZ I ran Ubuntu MATE for a bit, decent enough but I like Antergos Xfce a bit better.
08:08:32 PMlyndon mAteee
08:08:48 PMrevdjenk TWO!
08:09:11 PMagamotto Go NERDS!!!! for the win!
08:09:14 PMrevdjenk my wife's 8 yr old Lenovo was rejuvenated with one!
08:09:21 PMTNFrankinAZ SSD's and Linux totally rock
08:09:33 PMSparklyballs and that folks is how babies are made.
08:09:45 PMTNFrankinAZ All of my laptops have SSD's.
08:09:55 PMTNFrankinAZ Ding, Ding, Ding
08:10:05 PMrevdjenk I am pure Cinnamon with my Mint
08:10:26 PMTNFrankinAZ And that's why I like Xfce
08:10:34 PMagamotto I am sure at least two weeks of that was from Toronto to Barrie
08:10:59 PMTNFrankinAZ WEED, LOL
08:11:02 PMagamotto loose leaf?
08:11:03 PMrevdjenk oh... green leaves!!
08:11:30 PMlyndon I have an SSD in my new laptop. wasnt sure if i'd like it but i think the performance is better
08:12:13 PMagamotto What, you mean the finely-ground oregano?
08:12:17 PMrevdjenk it has been TESTED...
08:12:18 PMTNFrankinAZ Isn't weed legal in Canada?
08:12:26 PMJeffWeston1 yes TN
08:12:33 PMalpeck not yet TNFrankinAZ
08:13:04 PMTNFrankinAZ Ahh, now we know what the hot water was for.
08:13:26 PMTNFrankinAZ LOL
08:13:27 PMrevdjenk smells like what?
08:13:39 PMagamotto Cat grass? You mean catnip? No... it is related to holly, if memory serves
08:14:05 PMTNFrankinAZ That looks like way too much
08:14:20 PMagamotto You are areating (?) the powder, which helps it blend better
08:14:45 PMlyndon I really need to rewatch this episode!
08:15:01 PMagamotto That is what the filter is for
08:15:06 PMagamotto No need to store
08:15:10 PMagamotto stir, I mean
08:15:18 PMSparklyballs i read about it in a dennis crowley book when i was a kid.
08:15:44 PMTNFrankinAZ RobbieF, just don't spill it on your Desktop, LOL
08:16:02 PMTNFrankinAZ or you'd REALLy have a MATE desktop
08:16:02 PMagamotto It is very similar to green matcha tea, yes
08:16:15 PMSparklyballs aleister crowley , even. don't know where dennis came from
08:16:26 PMagamotto ll =y, usually
08:16:28 PMTNFrankinAZ Green Tea
08:17:13 PMagamotto Think Earl Grey with kick
08:17:21 PMrevdjenk A yerba maté plant in the Botanical Garden of Buenos Aires, Argentina. Mate is a tisane, or herbal tea, that is popular in Argentina as well as in Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay. Mate is the Quechuan word for "gourd".
08:17:32 PMagamotto I am a fan of Pu Ehr myself, along with matcha
08:17:34 PMABQTKY SWAT team to Studio D???
08:17:48 PMagamotto Rooibos is great for most dinners
08:18:12 PMTNFrankinAZ I like P.J. Tips tea.
08:18:31 PMagamotto TNFrankinAZ: You mean PB Tibbs?
08:18:42 PMTNFrankinAZ Let me go check the box
08:18:57 PMagamotto Sake bowls are great for tea as well
08:19:10 PMagamotto boMbeeya
08:19:12 PMrevdjenk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage)
08:19:14 PMSparklyballs i should imagine the shape of the gourd would make separation of the powder and liquid easier
08:19:25 PMSparklyballs can tip it more of an angle than a cup
08:19:50 PMTNFrankinAZ Ok, it's P.J. Tips
08:19:53 PMrevdjenk MATE was developed with help in Mint... so of course anything green works
08:19:58 PMSparklyballs PG tips
08:19:59 PMrevdjenk we love to stck around
08:20:23 PMagamotto Ok, wasn't sure... I have heard of something like that name
08:20:29 PMTNFrankinAZ It's been fun. I'm off next Tuesday so we'll have to do it again
08:20:49 PMagamotto 'Officer, it is just finely-ground oregano.'
08:20:54 PMSparklyballs that was very existential JeffWeston1, do they know they're still here.
08:21:07 PMrevdjenk ah JeffWeston1 has cred
08:21:19 PMagamotto I would imagine the various sex toys that would be smuggled in
08:21:27 PMTNFrankinAZ Probably doesn't smell like it either.
08:21:40 PMagamotto Maté should usually steep for about 5min before drinking
08:21:47 PMRobbieF Thanks for the info agamotto!
08:21:55 PMRobbieF it's definitely getting robust now!
08:21:57 PMrevdjenk bye and thanks RobbieF and JeffWeston1
08:22:16 PMDreamer__ you know there is more caffine in regular tea than coffee?
08:22:25 PMagamotto Many... yes
08:22:29 PMTNFrankinAZ Category5...........the Wired Edition.
08:22:32 PMlyndon bye guys and gals
08:22:41 PMagamotto RobbieF: Just make sure you don't give any to the kids after 2pm
08:22:41 PMJeffWeston1 night all
08:22:42 PMSparklyballs the caffeine in tea gets lost in the brewing process though
08:22:46 PMJeffWeston1 thanks for joining
08:23:16 PMTNFrankinAZ Oh well, I'm going to see what I can find for dinner. C ya'll later. Have a good rest of the week.
08:23:36 PMrevdjenk bye everyone... over to all about android
08:24:06 PMDreamer__ I normally squeeze the bag and start drinking straight away Sparklyballs, am i getting all the caffeine still ?
08:27:35 PMRobbieF Hope you all had fun!
08:27:58 PMRobbieF Sparklyballs but it's not boiling water, so the caffeine should not be killed.
08:28:12 PMRobbieF It's warm on the edge of being hot, but not scalding or boiling
08:28:27 PMRobbieF agamotto make sure you comment on the video on YouTube tomorrow re. Mate!
08:29:10 PMagamotto I should be able to do that... I am off from work.
08:29:36 PMagamotto I am going to wander off... Izzy wants to take a walk
08:29:47 PMRobbieF k take care!

Participants

Does Not Include Lurkers
ABQTKY
Dennis_Kelley
Dreamer__
GWG
JeffWeston
JeffWeston1
RobbieF
Sparklyballs
TNFrankinAZ
agamotto
alpeck
jlim
ledzep
lichenx1
lyndon
napa_polarbear
revdjenk