| 06:58:01 PM | TNFrankAZ | Howdy ABQTKY
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| 06:58:20 PM | ABQTKY | Again, Frank's here!! Great!!
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| 06:58:43 PM | TNFrankAZ | Starting to get hot out in our neck of the woods, isn't it.
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| 06:59:01 PM | TNFrankAZ | At least I don't have the humidity that I had in Tennessee,
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| 06:59:09 PM | ABQTKY | Looks like RobbieF is outnumbered tonight!
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| 06:59:49 PM | TNFrankAZ | Just got done watching Linux Unplugged over at Jupiter Broadcasting and now I'm here. Life is good.
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| 07:00:21 PM | ABQTKY | TNFrankAZ, I enjoy the weather reports when they say the Rel.Humidity is 3% - never had that back East!
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| 07:00:46 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL, our humidity is 8% right now at 98*F.
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| 07:01:00 PM | ABQTKY | Too muggy there.
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| 07:01:46 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL, you need to move to AZ.
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| 07:02:34 PM | lyndon_ | Arizona is too hot for me
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| 07:02:52 PM | Sparklyballs | you don't trust kelsey it seems
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| 07:02:54 PM | TNFrankAZ | AZ can get pretty warm. Winters are nice though.
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| 07:03:01 PM | MangleFox70 | Show is almost gonna start
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| 07:03:29 PM | lyndon_ | Oh, I'm sure
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| 07:03:36 PM | MangleFox70 | X3
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| 07:03:38 PM | lyndon_ | alright!
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| 07:03:56 PM | NateUK | RobbieF: black line at top of KelseyJ there for a reason ? lol
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| 07:04:07 PM | MangleFox70 | started
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| 07:04:32 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL
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| 07:04:47 PM | Sparklyballs | i thought she said weiner then
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| 07:05:02 PM | KelseyJ | Nope! :)
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| 07:05:26 PM | TNFrankAZ | Sounds like fun.
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| 07:05:36 PM | ShellyD | wellllllllcommmmeeeee
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| 07:05:39 PM | ShellyD | we are LIVE
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| 07:06:25 PM | TNFrankAZ | Windows 10 messed up a co-workers laptop so I turned him on to Linux and he's lovin' it.
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| 07:06:41 PM | Sparklyballs | debian VM's were a pain rebooting over ssh with weird dropping the connection issue that just left the terminal session hanging, but google had the answer.
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| 07:07:20 PM | TNFrankAZ | Short Intros are best
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| 07:07:34 PM | joeinNH | Today, I'm at Wentworth by the Sea on vacation. I have the show connected to the room's tv & in chat on my Samsung tablet
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| 07:07:36 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL,
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| 07:08:24 PM | Sparklyballs | i'm up to 3 pi's now, lol.
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| 07:08:33 PM | albertr | apt install autossh && alias ssh='autossh'
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| 07:08:34 PM | Fifteenth | Greetings Time Travelers!
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| 07:08:38 PM | Dennis_Kelley | RobbieF sorry, I am not going to be catching the show tonight!
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| 07:08:44 PM | joeinNH | More time for the coolness
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| 07:08:48 PM | lyndon_ | Hello
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| 07:09:15 PM | Fifteenth | :)
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| 07:09:16 PM | TNFrankAZ | Pi's are cool
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| 07:09:25 PM | TNFrankAZ | I need to get one to play around with someday.
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| 07:09:33 PM | joeinNH | I like del *.* on windows. ;)
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| 07:10:22 PM | joeinNH | Chelsea on the desktop
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| 07:10:59 PM | joeinNH | It is so much better watching this on the huge digital tv
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| 07:11:08 PM | Fifteenth | Floating News!!??
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| 07:11:43 PM | KelseyJ | Apparently! I am liking it on the shelf so far :D
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| 07:11:50 PM | TNFrankAZ | joeinNH, yep, got my Roku TV with Category5 running on it. Much better than using a second laptop to watch the show with.
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| 07:12:22 PM | Fifteenth | 4 Monitors works well too!
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| 07:12:29 PM | TNFrankAZ | Always do an update and dist-upgrade on any new Debian/Ubuntu/Mint install
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| 07:12:40 PM | Fifteenth | yep
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| 07:12:43 PM | TNFrankAZ | of course with Arch based stuff it's a simple -Syyuu
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| 07:13:05 PM | Sparklyballs | throw something from the shelf KelseyJ
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| 07:14:09 PM | Fifteenth | Yes! and they may work on SMALL MINDED adults too!
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| 07:14:48 PM | TNFrankAZ | Good idea but that leaves me out because I like it LOUD, LOL
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| 07:15:27 PM | joeinNH | Fifteenth how many graphics cards for 4 monitors
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| 07:15:28 PM | TNFrankAZ | Since we run Linux wouldn't she be a GNOME???
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| 07:15:31 PM | KelseyJ | Sparklyballs I would, but I would probably break something :/
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| 07:16:02 PM | TNFrankAZ | Kelseyj, did you ever switch totally over to Linux??
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| 07:16:18 PM | Fifteenth | 2 cards @4GB DDR5
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| 07:16:21 PM | lyndon_ | I got some cheap kid safe headphones and my kids said they could barely here anything
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| 07:16:51 PM | joeinNH | Fifteenth: each with 2 monitors?
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| 07:16:55 PM | lyndon_ | I'm sure that those are much better
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| 07:16:57 PM | KelseyJ | TNFrankAZ No I didn't, I'm worried I'd break something
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| 07:17:07 PM | Fifteenth | yep and up to 4 each
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| 07:17:19 PM | Fifteenth | GTX 700 Series
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| 07:18:29 PM | TNFrankAZ | Kelseyj Don't worry about that, Linux is more stable than Windows is and easier to fix if you do break something.
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| 07:18:50 PM | TNFrankAZ | Give Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu a look. Both are light weight and run great on laptops.
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| 07:18:59 PM | Sparklyballs | and if you do bust something, linux is just so easy to do a start over on
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| 07:19:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | And you don't have to pay MicroSux money to run your laptop.
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| 07:19:49 PM | KelseyJ | I will look into it :)
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| 07:19:56 PM | TNFrankAZ | I'm rockin' Antergos with the Xfce desktop on my Dell and Ubuntu 16.04LTS on my HP
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| 07:20:06 PM | Sparklyballs | kelsey needs pixie dust to fly
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| 07:20:24 PM | Fifteenth | Went 100% Linux on Laptop, but still need ADOBE (HOLD OUTS!!), on master system.
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| 07:20:31 PM | TNFrankAZ | Kelseyj, Robbie can help you with any little issues you might run into but really, Linux is pretty stable these days.
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| 07:20:47 PM | Sparklyballs | my server stuff is linux all the way
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| 07:21:04 PM | TNFrankAZ | I've never used an LVM when I do my installs so this should be interesting.
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| 07:21:29 PM | Fifteenth | Yep, server Linux running FreeNAS
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| 07:21:48 PM | albertr | LVM is great when you need more diskspace
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| 07:22:14 PM | TNFrankAZ | I've also never encrypted my harddrive when i do installs although I'd like to do it for security.
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| 07:22:27 PM | Sparklyballs | my main system is unraid, i have four ubuntu setups , the 3 pis and an odroid arm board
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| 07:22:28 PM | joeinNH | screen is awesome!
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| 07:22:50 PM | TNFrankAZ | I see RobbieF is still rockin' Point Linux.
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| 07:23:00 PM | TNFrankAZ | Arch is pacman
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| 07:23:05 PM | TNFrankAZ | uber simple
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| 07:23:07 PM | albertr | screen is like RDC in windows
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| 07:23:10 PM | Sparklyballs | suse is zypper
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| 07:23:13 PM | TNFrankAZ | sudo pacman -S screen
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| 07:23:16 PM | joeinNH | Unfortunately, arch doesn't have ctrl alt sessions
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| 07:23:44 PM | ABQTKY | Oh, Sparklyballs, the 8 core Odroid?? Or just the quad? 8-)
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| 07:23:53 PM | TNFrankAZ | Fedora has moved to dnf which is the dandified package manager
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| 07:23:53 PM | Sparklyballs | xu4 8 core
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| 07:23:53 PM | joeinNH | Arch for me is packer :)
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| 07:24:11 PM | TNFrankAZ | you can also use yaourt in Arch for the AUR packages
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| 07:24:18 PM | TNFrankAZ | no sudo needed
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| 07:24:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | yaourt -S screen
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| 07:24:54 PM | joeinNH | I like packer because the commands are similar
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| 07:25:03 PM | Sparklyballs | use screen when doing preclears in unraid from the terminal
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| 07:28:04 PM | TNFrankAZ | This stuff makes a lot more sense to me after running Linux for the last 5 years, LOL
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| 07:28:14 PM | joeinNH | She's all choked up because of screen
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| 07:28:35 PM | Sparklyballs | did shelley swallow the shelf elf ?
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| 07:29:06 PM | ShellyD | >:o:-X
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| 07:29:12 PM | joeinNH | You mean the gnome
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| 07:29:13 PM | KelseyJ | Naw, I'm still here, robbie just gave me my pixie dust so i could return to the news studio
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| 07:29:48 PM | Fifteenth | So, you're creating magic-NEWS??
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| 07:29:53 PM | KelseyJ | I might return later
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| 07:30:04 PM | KelseyJ | And heck yea!!! :D
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| 07:30:25 PM | Fifteenth | hahahahha
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| 07:30:52 PM | joeinNH | Well, I'm going swimming.
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| 07:31:00 PM | joeinNH | Back later.
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| 07:31:05 PM | TNFrankAZ | C ya'
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| 07:31:18 PM | Fifteenth | in NH?? Kinda coooooool isn't it???
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| 07:31:30 PM | TNFrankAZ | Seems like it'd be.
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| 07:32:15 PM | Fifteenth | I talk to a friend NH everyday via VSee (Since I live in the tropics), and it's not that warm there.
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| 07:32:55 PM | TNFrankAZ | I've been using K3B as my "go to" for ripping DVD's
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| 07:33:24 PM | Fifteenth | Is it time for MGI-NEWS???
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| 07:33:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | 9 more days
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| 07:33:33 PM | Fifteenth | OOPS MAGI-NEWS
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| 07:34:37 PM | TNFrankAZ | Glad to see she got over her shyness, LOL
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| 07:34:51 PM | Fifteenth | Cut my phone company loose 10 years ago. VOIP only
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| 07:34:59 PM | TNFrankAZ | I remember when Kelsey first came to the show, very shy.
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| 07:35:16 PM | lyndon_ | its going to fast
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| 07:35:52 PM | albertr | tmux is also a screen alternative
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| 07:36:09 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL, math wizz
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| 07:36:18 PM | Sparklyballs | dtach is another one
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| 07:36:28 PM | Sparklyballs | used dtach in a docker once
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| 07:36:31 PM | albertr | yeb
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| 07:36:57 PM | TNFrankAZ | Wordpress is kind of easy to hack though.
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| 07:36:58 PM | Fifteenth | Yes, 15th Parallel Photography uses Wordpress.org and FREE Wordpress!!! YAY!!
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| 07:37:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | That's how the Linux Mint sight got hacked, via Wordpress.
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| 07:37:47 PM | Fifteenth | Then the webmaster did not secure the site properly!
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| 07:38:22 PM | Fifteenth | There are endless plugins for security within the Wordpress Repos
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| 07:38:33 PM | Fifteenth | Shame on you Linux MINT!!
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| 07:39:09 PM | MangleFox70 | I meant no
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| 07:39:41 PM | MangleFox70 | >:D
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| 07:39:45 PM | TNFrankAZ | LOL, you guys are having WAY TOO MUCH FUN.
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| 07:39:57 PM | MangleFox70 | wat
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| 07:40:03 PM | MangleFox70 | >:)
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| 07:41:47 PM | ShellyD | no such things are too much fun, is that even possible?
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| 07:41:54 PM | ShellyD | as*
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| 07:41:57 PM | MangleFox70 | maybeeeeeeeeeeee
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| 07:42:03 PM | TNFrankAZ | Wonder if a friend of mine here in AZ has been forced to do the upgrade? He's a hardcore Windows 7 user and said he'd not upgrade but I told him they'd force him to do it and he's to stuborn to move to Linux full time.
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| 07:42:18 PM | lyndon_ | Genesys
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| 07:42:30 PM | MangleFox70 | 5000000000¢ for 1.00$. Any offers?
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| 07:42:31 PM | TNFrankAZ | MicroSoft sux
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| 07:42:38 PM | MangleFox70 | yes
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| 07:42:48 PM | TNFrankAZ | I'd sooner do without a computer than run Windows.
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| 07:43:01 PM | MangleFox70 | oh no
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| 07:43:08 PM | MangleFox70 | I might be using it RIGHT NOW
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| 07:43:10 PM | lyndon_ | it really isnt that bad
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| 07:43:12 PM | TNFrankAZ | Loads of spyware in Windows 10
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| 07:43:17 PM | Fifteenth | Blocked Windows updates altogether. Do it manually, and ONLY when needed to update drivers or 3rd party updates.
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| 07:43:24 PM | MangleFox70 | Actually I have no clue as to what I'm using
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| 07:43:32 PM | TNFrankAZ | Total suck vs sucks a bit less is still suck
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| 07:43:36 PM | Sparklyballs | windows 8 was abysmal
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| 07:43:56 PM | MangleFox70 | eh
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| 07:43:57 PM | Sparklyballs | my sister had it on her laptop and it was just awful to use
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| 07:44:01 PM | TNFrankAZ | RobbieF, you need to move Kelseyj over to Ubuntu MATE
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| 07:44:44 PM | TNFrankAZ | We no longer have a land line. Totally smart phone now.
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| 07:44:52 PM | Fifteenth | Where i live, AT&T and Verizon Pacific took notice to the umbilical cord cutting - their response - RAISE internet rates!
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| 07:45:40 PM | Sparklyballs | landlines are a con in this country, you're forced to have one if you have broadband
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| 07:45:50 PM | TNFrankAZ | Some folks are probably using VoIP
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| 07:46:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | I'm using PureTalk and it's only $29 bucks a month, unlimited calling and text
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| 07:46:29 PM | lyndon_ | VOIP is getting big
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| 07:46:47 PM | Garbee | Sparklyballs: Which country is that? (Sorry if this is double. Connection problems.)
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| 07:46:51 PM | Fifteenth | I use VOIP, Cell Phone and Google Voice FREE phone number. I can call anyone for free. Anyone can call me for FREE!
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| 07:46:53 PM | Sparklyballs | uk
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| 07:47:01 PM | Garbee | Sparklyballs: So, DSL I take it?
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| 07:47:09 PM | Garbee | Sparklyballs: Which country is that?
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| 07:47:16 PM | SoundPro69 | I've run Windows 3.1, 95, 98SE (skipped ME), Vista, 7 & 8. I am refusing 10. It installed on my machine automatically and I declined the conditions,with which it uninstalled and re-installed my 8. But kept my machine hostage for 40 minutes when I needed it... I am really trying to change all my life to Linux.
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| 07:47:18 PM | Garbee | There's the original! ;)
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| 07:47:31 PM | Sparklyballs | the uk garbee, fibre broadband to the cabinet
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| 07:47:46 PM | TNFrankAZ | We don't have much of a President here in the U.S. right now either. LOL
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| 07:47:55 PM | Garbee | Sparklyballs: Ah, then yea that's a con. Landlines aren't required for fiber.
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| 07:48:11 PM | TNFrankAZ | =-O
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| 07:48:11 PM | Garbee | TNFrankAZ: Let's not get into politics please.
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| 07:48:46 PM | lyndon_ | hopfully it will be durrable
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| 07:48:56 PM | SoundPro69 | TNFrankAZ yeah, wait until Trump comes in and see bullies rule
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| 07:49:11 PM | lyndon_ | whale attack proof
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| 07:49:12 PM | MangleFox70 | Donald Trump & John Cena!!!!
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| 07:49:28 PM | MangleFox70 | Trump will lose, btw
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| 07:49:46 PM | MangleFox70 | he thinks he's so amazing but barely anyone supports him >:)
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| 07:50:24 PM | MangleFox70 | afk
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| 07:50:30 PM | Garbee | Not only fast, but a larger pipe itself then comparable cables.
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| 07:51:47 PM | Sparklyballs | for all the moves in technology we aren't much further along than brunel laying transatlantic cables
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| 07:52:17 PM | TNFrankAZ | Dumped my Facebook page a few years ago and never looked back. Google+ is a much cooler place to hang out.
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| 07:52:48 PM | Fifteenth | Not a great idea. Last year we were hit by Typhoon Souledor, a CAT5 typhoon, which took out ALL communications between Saipan and Rota. NO ONE (incldg police & fire), had phone communications. No one could call ANYONE, ANYWHERE for one month!
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| 07:53:38 PM | Sparklyballs | facebook pis**ed a lot of people off with their real name policy, in the media they were saying that it was not compulsory but IRL they still enforce it
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| 07:53:49 PM | lyndon_ | Thank You
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| 07:53:52 PM | Fifteenth | I agree Google Plus is MUCH better. Dumped FB when i read the EULA which claimed they OWNED all copyrights to my images, words, poems, etc. by using their website!
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| 07:54:46 PM | Fifteenth | WOW! too much. I'm wearing shorts w/o shirt. but then again, it's 95F here!!
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| 07:54:55 PM | TNFrankAZ | First she was too cold and now she's getting too hot, LOL
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| 07:55:02 PM | Sparklyballs | legless ? drunk ?
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| 07:55:23 PM | Garbee | Fifteenth: That is standard for just about all sites that host your data.
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| 07:55:59 PM | Garbee | Now, enforcement of the policy is debatable. But it is standard lawyerize to cover themselves.
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| 07:56:25 PM | TNFrankAZ | Last day of May, here comes June.
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| 07:57:19 PM | Fifteenth | Not really. Google, yahoo, etc. DO NOT take possession of YOUR legally owned words, images, etc. It's illegal to claim YOU own something and WILL sell it w/o giving notice to the REAL owner.
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| 07:57:39 PM | Fifteenth | June 1, 2016 here.
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| 07:58:09 PM | Sparklyballs | youtube do, and they're a google brand...
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| 07:59:00 PM | Fifteenth | No lawyer worth his/her education would support such an act. It's why I do not use FB.
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| 07:59:32 PM | Fifteenth | No, YouTube does NOT SELL your copyrighted videos.
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| 07:59:55 PM | Sparklyballs | they own it once you post it
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| 07:59:59 PM | Garbee | > When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate,
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| 07:59:59 PM | Garbee | publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones.
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| 08:00:03 PM | Garbee | https://www.google.com/policies/terms/
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| 08:00:24 PM | Sparklyballs | thank you garbee
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| 08:00:25 PM | Garbee | You still retain IP ownership yes, this is even clear in the same policy.
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| 08:00:45 PM | Garbee | But, you do give them rights to use the content as well how they can for their (and their affiliated parties) own uses.
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| 08:01:30 PM | Fifteenth | Thank you Garbee for proving what I said. FB does NOT allow you to retain ownership when you AGREE to the EULA.
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| 08:02:13 PM | Fifteenth | it's becoming obvious people are getting confused between ownership and usage rights.
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| 08:02:23 PM | Garbee | Like I said, that is laweryze to save their butts in case of certain lawsuits. Whether it can be enforced is debatable in court.
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| 08:02:30 PM | Fifteenth | They are different.
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| 08:02:50 PM | lyndon_ | wow
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| 08:02:53 PM | TNFrankAZ | Good thing they have blasters to fight back with.
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| 08:02:56 PM | Fifteenth | Yeah, I know what lawyer speak is, I have a law degree.
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| 08:03:07 PM | TNFrankAZ | I thought it was a Linux show???
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| 08:03:16 PM | albertr | thanks for the show :)
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| 08:03:23 PM | Fifteenth | Been to Hawaii, should have stayed! :(
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| 08:03:54 PM | Fifteenth | c ya
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| 08:04:16 PM | KelseyJ | Apparently i can teleport too!
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| 08:04:24 PM | TNFrankAZ | C ya'll later.
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| 08:04:24 PM | lyndon_ | thats funny
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| 08:05:10 PM | Fifteenth | C everyone next time!
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| 08:05:15 PM | KelseyJ | See you guys later!
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| 08:05:23 PM | Fifteenth | By Kelsey!
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| 08:05:37 PM | Guest_1468 | Does he know the camera is still on
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| 08:05:44 PM | ERROR420 | Remember Hide your servers.
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| 08:06:17 PM | albertr | does he know the audio is still on?
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| 08:06:27 PM | Guest_1468 | Good night all. Have a great week.
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| 08:06:34 PM | Sparklyballs | RobbieF: you're still broadcasting sound
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| 08:06:50 PM | Guest_1468 | Audio is still on
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| 08:07:23 PM | Guest_1468 | Hello Hello Hello
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| 08:07:46 PM | Guest_1468 | Robbieeeeeeee
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| 08:08:08 PM | MangleFox70 | hello hello hello oh wait I AINET (Rymes!) Robbie woops sorry
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| 08:09:19 PM | lyndon_ | its behind the scenes
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| 08:09:20 PM | MangleFox70 | ain’t*
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| 08:09:40 PM | lyndon_ | hahaha!
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| 08:09:46 PM | Sparklyballs | i'm waiting for a ronnie raygun off camera moment
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| 08:10:12 PM | Guest_1468 | Kelsy Kelsy Kelsy
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| 08:10:18 PM | MangleFox70 | what did I just do???????
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| 08:10:26 PM | MangleFox70 | with the sound-thing
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| 08:10:26 PM | lyndon_ | That was loud Robbie!
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| 08:10:42 PM | MangleFox70 | what?
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| 08:11:30 PM | Guest_1468 | Goodnight
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| 08:11:42 PM | lyndon_ | night =)
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| 08:11:44 PM | MangleFox70 | g'night
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| 08:12:02 PM | MangleFox70 | brb
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| 08:12:50 PM | MangleFox70 | back
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| 08:20:58 PM | NateUK | great show thanks RobbieF and co : )
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| 08:21:57 PM | RobbieF | Thanks NateUK!
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