| 06:58:40 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, why is the show still using FLASH? (Good thing none of us use Windows.)
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| 06:59:18 PM | Sparklyballs | the temp in parts of the UK today was hotter than the caribbean
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| 06:59:34 PM | agamotto | I sure have no plans on touching Win10... I have been telliing several people I know that I no longer supply free Windows support
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| 07:00:40 PM | ABQTKY | Oh, no - the cable's going right behind TWO chairs! Too easy to roll 'em over the cables!!
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| 07:00:45 PM | ShellyD | were on our way kids!
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| 07:01:17 PM | revdjenk | yay
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| 07:01:37 PM | Sparklyballs | the cable has turned on RobbieF and is constricting him off camera...
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| 07:01:42 PM | revdjenk | sound
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| 07:02:01 PM | Island-Photo | Better
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| 07:02:23 PM | revdjenk | I'm getting lag and freezes here
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| 07:02:30 PM | agamotto | revdjenk: Same here
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| 07:03:12 PM | chriskevinlee | same guys, hope the live stream be ok tonight
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| 07:03:18 PM | Sparklyballs | same here.
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| 07:03:24 PM | rd_blair | I'm getting lag and freezes here
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| 07:03:30 PM | agamotto | Wow... you know it is humid when you pour a glass of water from the tap and the glass is sweating in less than 1 minute w/o ice cubes
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| 07:04:09 PM | ABQTKY | Ooh, RobbieF got the cable STUCK around the axle on his chair wheels!!
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| 07:04:16 PM | revdjenk | agamotto: yes, high dew point throughout midwest to central appalachians
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| 07:04:22 PM | agamotto | Sparklyballs: I would not be surprised... at least you aren't having to worry too much about flash flooding.
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| 07:04:34 PM | fking | buffering here also.
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| 07:04:41 PM | Sparklyballs | that's tomorroew apparently agamotto
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| 07:04:47 PM | revdjenk | at least we have some vid
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| 07:04:50 PM | Sparklyballs | i kid you not....
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| 07:04:53 PM | agamotto | Sparklyballs: Sorry, chum.
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| 07:05:27 PM | bigkitty\ | I'm seeing freezing.
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| 07:05:40 PM | revdjenk | yes bigkitty\ we are all reporting it
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| 07:05:41 PM | Sparklyballs | one day of sun in the uk is an historic event, something to tell your grandchildren about, lol.
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| 07:05:51 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, Crazy Glue is great for on-ear microphones!
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| 07:05:56 PM | chriskevinlee | same bigkitty\
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| 07:05:57 PM | chriskevinlee | bigkitty\
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| 07:06:34 PM | revdjenk | Sparklyballs: my brother lives in Kent, and married and English woman. The wedding in summer of 1990 was pleasant and sunny for three days straight!
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| 07:06:44 PM | agamotto | I wonder if Rogers is messing with the connection again...
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| 07:07:07 PM | GoodGuy98 | Video keeps stalling and then starts again
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| 07:07:35 PM | GoodGuy98 | Rogers is no friend of ours :-(
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| 07:07:50 PM | Sparklyballs | there is mass panic in this country if it doesn't rain for that long usually revdjenk
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| 07:08:05 PM | ninjarobbie | hee hee
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| 07:08:37 PM | Sparklyballs | has anyone reported the lags and freezes yet ?
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| 07:08:45 PM | ninjarobbie | yes.. Sparklyballs
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| 07:08:49 PM | Island-Photo | I'm getting them too
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| 07:08:51 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am on Roku
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| 07:08:59 PM | GoodGuy98 | I mentioned it a minute or two ago
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| 07:09:08 PM | ninjarobbie | I even went ninja mode and still have the freezes
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| 07:09:11 PM | GoodGuy98 | PC here and stalls as well
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| 07:09:12 PM | chriskevinlee | yeh sent Robbie a msg Sparklyballs
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| 07:10:41 PM | Island-Photo | Video Broadcast signal is weak in PENGUIN LAND!
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| 07:10:41 PM | GoodGuy98 | Too bad we couldn't have the internet from the old studio and the new studio for the space
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| 07:10:54 PM | revdjenk | GoodGuy98: yes!
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| 07:11:14 PM | orangeman | Robbie I not get good show as picture is frozian
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| 07:11:29 PM | GoodGuy98 | 5 miles of Cat6 cable must run a small fortune lol
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| 07:11:45 PM | GoodGuy98 | Same here orangeman
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| 07:11:51 PM | Sparklyballs | about the same as 6 miles of cat 5 ?
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| 07:12:30 PM | GoodGuy98 | Run a long Cat6 ethernet cable from Robbie's house to the new studio
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| 07:12:49 PM | GoodGuy98 | Need a bunch of repeaters also
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| 07:13:06 PM | Sparklyballs | get a hook up to the new microsoft'/facebook transatlantic cable....
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| 07:13:15 PM | ABQTKY | It's almost line-of-sight from Studio D to his home...almost.
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| 07:13:23 PM | GoodGuy98 | That's a good idea!
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| 07:14:17 PM | GoodGuy98 | Except they would grab every byte of data going across the cable and make targeted ads
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| 07:15:03 PM | agamotto | Ewwww
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| 07:15:11 PM | ABQTKY | He could encrypt the feed to the house and then stream from the house. He's got NICE speed and reliability there.'
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| 07:15:14 PM | GoodGuy98 | Slight Linux Bias would turn to totally favor Windows and Linux is a nightmare
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| 07:15:16 PM | Sparklyballs | just think of how much faster forced downloads of windows11 would be though....
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| 07:15:26 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Looks like I am going to have to watch on the download!
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| 07:15:29 PM | GoodGuy98 | True Sparklyballs
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| 07:16:13 PM | GoodGuy98 | I did a Clean install of Win10 using a Win7 Key and it worked well
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| 07:16:30 PM | Island-Photo | Yeah, I agree. Can't handle the more stopped than live on this one.
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| 07:16:46 PM | agamotto | I gave up on the idea of Win10 when a bunch of peripherals stopped working for my friends
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| 07:16:48 PM | GoodGuy98 | Still can run the Windows 7 install also since it is the same hardware
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| 07:16:52 PM | Sparklyballs | i think it's about 2 years since i touched a windows machine
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| 07:17:03 PM | Sparklyballs | and that was my sisters laptop
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| 07:17:33 PM | Island-Photo | Running dual here. Need my Adobe to do my edits
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| 07:17:40 PM | Island-Photo | Anyway, see ya
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| 07:17:42 PM | GoodGuy98 | I havent tried installing my Printer yet, but if that didnt work I would look at the Epson one RobbieF reviewed
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| 07:18:13 PM | Island-Photo | Anyway, see ya'll next time. Maybe their signal will be fixed by then.
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| 07:18:36 PM | GoodGuy98 | Screens, mice and keyboards work which is about all I need
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| 07:18:40 PM | Sparklyballs | my laptop is mac, but everything else is linux and the firewall is BSD (pfsense)
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| 07:19:05 PM | agamotto | Sparklyballs: You actually need a separate firewall?
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| 07:19:18 PM | GoodGuy98 | pfsense runs on an old PC?
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| 07:19:32 PM | Sparklyballs | i got it running on a hp n54l
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| 07:20:35 PM | GoodGuy98 | I used to have NAS4Free running on an old PC, but it stopped working
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| 07:20:58 PM | orangeman | I wait 10 min if not fix I wait for download tomorrow
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| 07:21:17 PM | revdjenk | GoodGuy98: nas4free stopped, or the old pc? :)
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| 07:21:41 PM | GoodGuy98 | Too hard to watch live.. I'll catch the recorded show tomorrow
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| 07:21:48 PM | GoodGuy98 | Old PC died
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| 07:22:09 PM | agamotto | GoodGuy98: Sorry to hear that... was it recycled for good use?
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| 07:23:19 PM | GoodGuy98 | Not yet.... I need to remove the power supply since it was a new one
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| 07:23:39 PM | GoodGuy98 | Gotta run.... night all
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| 07:24:12 PM | orangeman | the power supply make a good 5v 12 v bench supply
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| 07:26:34 PM | revdjenk | RobbieF: I'll watch later. Five second freezes in vid and audio every 5 to 20 seconds.
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| 07:28:20 PM | chriskevinlee | RobbieF - think ill watch the show on youtube tomorrow keeps freezing
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| 07:30:07 PM | orangeman | good night all I for bed
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| 07:37:19 PM | sprintcowboy | Howdy all
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| 07:37:26 PM | ShellyD | hola!'
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| 07:38:23 PM | sprintcowboy | Is anyone else having trouble with the stream?
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| 07:38:41 PM | ShellyD | yes we have had a couple people mentioning they have been having a bit of an issue
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| 07:38:46 PM | sprintcowboy | keeps going in and out
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| 07:39:06 PM | sprintcowboy | OK Thanks
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| 07:39:18 PM | ABQTKY | Sprintcowboy, yes - same troubles as last week!!
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| 07:40:41 PM | sprintcowboy | guess I'll have to watch later. can't tell whats going on
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| 07:42:41 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | streaming issues again this week I see
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| 07:43:29 PM | napa_polarbear | hello all
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| 07:43:32 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | whats going on this week with streaming
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| 07:44:01 PM | napa_polarbear | spotty here too
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| 07:44:29 PM | bigkitty\ | ya at is
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| 07:44:31 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, it's great INSIDE studio D.
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| 07:44:40 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | it is not them unless I have their problems too
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| 07:44:53 PM | agamotto | Apparently it is all over the place
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| 07:44:59 PM | napa_polarbear | yaaaaaaaaaaa
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| 07:45:07 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | freezing on roku channel and online
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| 07:46:18 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | with the feed as irregular as it is there is no following the live feed for instructional reasons
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| 07:46:44 PM | napa_polarbear | dont know?
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| 07:46:50 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | roku feed keeps freezing but stream over chrome has straightened out
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| 07:50:12 PM | agamotto | I am just happy to have the night off
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| 07:50:24 PM | agamotto | I don't get to hang out here much these days
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| 07:50:34 PM | napa_polarbear | only gets sporty when theres a closeup of robbie
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| 07:51:16 PM | agamotto | Hmm, so turn off the star's camera and it all works? Interesting...
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| 07:53:43 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | it seems to be based on data, txt screen flows but his closeup freezes
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| 07:54:38 PM | DonBatman | Robbies face freezes the screen! How about a show with just Jeff and Kelsey
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| 07:57:00 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | if all is good in the studio then what about them having a feed that is purely straight from the internet so it is a true sampling of what is going out online. obviously your people providing you service are not doing you a quality service. what is going out is not good.
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| 07:59:13 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | the differential changes are off of the original backup image not off of sequential saves?
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| 08:07:01 PM | napa_polarbear | back
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| 08:07:18 PM | agamotto | Well, I am off to cuddle with the dog. I may be back next week. I have next Tuesday off.
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| 08:12:45 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | normally the txt on your terminal screen can be read off the screen with no problem, tonight however I am sure it has something to do with whoever you have serving out to the net along with the stream freezing.
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| 08:17:08 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I ordered and received my Pi kit and ordered my wifes fans. There has got to be something going on because I am not the only sufferer of the stream irregularity or stoppage completely.
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| 08:17:46 PM | SoundPro69 | No. I suffer it too...
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| 08:17:59 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I paid for the 10-21 day shipping on Sunday and received it on Wed
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| 08:19:09 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am glad I did not pay for fast shipping, would never have known the truth
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| 08:19:37 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | wifes fans have not arrived yet though...lol
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| 08:19:55 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | hers were 7 to 10 days...
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| 08:22:03 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | Appreciate the effort in the live show, will look for the youtube feed and give a like Good night @RobbieF and @ShellyD Thanks and have a great week
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| 08:22:19 PM | RobbieF | wow, didn't get to look at the chat room even once :/
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| 08:22:21 PM | RobbieF | hope you had fun!!
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| 08:22:32 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | what I could make of it
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| 08:22:38 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | the feed was bad
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| 08:22:54 PM | RobbieF | :( That sucks. It was great from our perspective.
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| 08:23:02 PM | RobbieF | wonder why....
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| 08:23:07 PM | RobbieF | will have to look into it
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| 08:23:12 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | do you use an isolated feed to watch what you are streaming out any?
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| 08:23:15 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, it was all bad news about the audio and video stream. Better you didn't see it!
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| 08:23:28 PM | RobbieF | no dooley - we pay for bandwidth so that'd double our cost
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| 08:23:48 PM | RobbieF | Well, if it helps, I recorded to disk :/
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| 08:23:50 PM | RobbieF | Sorry :(
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| 08:24:34 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | I am guessing you are streaming out fine it is just the distribution that is the issue. not your fault and I knew it would be double the cost but did not know.
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| 08:24:55 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, does the cell provider know what you need to do with the bandwidth you buy? Could they have changed youir service after that Ontario outage a few weeks ago??
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| 08:25:18 PM | RobbieF | we changed providers ABQTKY because bell was terrible
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| 08:25:31 PM | RobbieF | and this one is good... eg., OUR bandwidth in house was perfect tonight.
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| 08:25:35 PM | ABQTKY | Maybe they're both terrible???
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| 08:25:37 PM | RobbieF | So something seems to be up on our distribution end.
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| 08:25:49 PM | RobbieF | Doesn't seem that way. Seems like it's not related to our in-house internet
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| 08:26:05 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | but what about between your streaming out and it going out to the web is there a bottleneck in there anywhere
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| 08:26:12 PM | RobbieF | we send one stream to a server, and that server distributes it to you. I think it's on that server.
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| 08:26:31 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | yeah that is what I am thinking
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| 08:26:44 PM | RobbieF | it was that server that had trouble last week
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| 08:27:00 PM | RobbieF | this week it seemed fine from our end (sending the stream to them) but seems it was bad from your end (receiving the stream from them)
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| 08:27:06 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | they need a bit of quality control or make sure they are providing what you are paying for
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| 08:27:21 PM | ABQTKY | RobbieF, it's a shame you couldn't use Ubiquitis and, say, the top of a telephone pole to reach the house with WiFi.
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| 08:27:22 PM | RobbieF | They donate the whole service. They've been fantastic.
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| 08:27:46 PM | ABQTKY | Donate? Okay, forget the terrible comment!!
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| 08:27:49 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | ah, so what you get is what you get
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| 08:27:52 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | ok
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| 08:27:57 PM | RobbieF | ABQTKY it's funny you say that... we did the fundraiser for Ubiquitis and didn't raise enough money, but just today I was talking with people to see if we can raise the extra to buy them.
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| 08:28:03 PM | RobbieF | That'd save us a ton of cash.
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| 08:28:18 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | so if then need bandwidth for paying customers they get it first
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| 08:28:26 PM | RobbieF | the thing is, while we could stream through say, YouTube, that wouldn't work on Roku / Plex, so we really want to allow that.
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| 08:28:29 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | very understandable
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| 08:28:32 PM | ABQTKY | How close, altitude-wise are you to line-of-sight??
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| 08:28:48 PM | RobbieF | not sure yet ABQTKY - gonna take the drone up as soon as it's flying.
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| 08:28:56 PM | RobbieF | still have to program the GPS
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| 08:29:26 PM | dooley_da_vulcan | good night, see you all next week and thanks again
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| 08:29:30 PM | RobbieF | seeya
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| 08:29:51 PM | ABQTKY | A ham-radio tower with the Ubiquitis or Wok-tenna on a 30 or 40 foot 'tower' might be all you'd need.
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| 08:30:00 PM | RobbieF | yep
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| 08:30:07 PM | RobbieF | I doubt I'd get permission to do that.
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| 08:30:19 PM | RobbieF | but hopefully the studio roof is line of sight to our garage ;)
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| 08:31:01 PM | ABQTKY | Won't know till you ask the landlord! And YOU might be able to have a nice antenna at the house!
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| 08:31:47 PM | RobbieF | Not if the wife sees it :)
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| 08:32:07 PM | ABQTKY | That's called spousal acceptance factor.
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| 08:32:15 PM | RobbieF | yup.
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| 08:33:53 PM | ABQTKY | All will be fine, there are no problems, only opportunities!!
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| 08:34:19 PM | RobbieF | I like your style.
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| 08:34:20 PM | RobbieF | ;)
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| 08:34:48 PM | ABQTKY | Hey, I got lots of opportunities.
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