| 6:58:16 PM | RobbieF | internet just went down for 30 seconds :/
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| 6:58:17 PM | RobbieF | up now
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| 6:58:50 PM | Solbu | The internet? ;-)
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| 6:59:02 PM | Solbu | I'm prety sure the internet ws just fine. ;-)
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| 6:59:23 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Hello all
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| 6:59:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | is the feed live yet?
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| 7:00:04 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Nice. you actually pronounced my nick correctly. It's my last name. :-)
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| 7:00:06 PM | TheFu | Hey Ya'll
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| 7:00:43 PM | sparklyballs | the face and the voice looked incongruous though HenryBB
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| 7:01:00 PM | napa_polarbear | HI All
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| 7:01:18 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | on a diff system. what do I need to fulfil flash requirements?
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| 7:01:27 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | ubuntu mate 16.04
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| 7:01:34 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I do not remember
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| 7:01:35 PM | napa_polarbear | Pi
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| 7:01:51 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I know flash has security issues
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| 7:02:12 PM | sparklyballs | if i left now i'd probably get there for stretch day
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| 7:02:53 PM | BobK54 | I was in Ottawa two weeks ago. I'll be back in another 2 weeks. If they let me in....
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| 7:05:01 PM | sparklyballs | most def my computers use the most juice
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| 7:05:03 PM | napa_polarbear | have you chk out the chip,its linux
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| 7:05:57 PM | alpeck | what spring...they are calling for the mid 30's this weekend
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| 7:05:59 PM | Solbu | I allways unplug my TV-set, microwave and coffee machines.
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| 7:06:22 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | got it, I used installed pepper flash
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| 7:06:27 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | is it ok?
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| 7:06:44 PM | alpeck | that's 30C
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| 7:06:59 PM | Mik3_0 | Anything that generates heat.
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| 7:07:51 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | anytime you have something that uses power and creates heat you are paying to make the heat. Regardless if it is the purpose of the product.
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| 7:08:22 PM | Mik3_0 | eys
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| 7:08:25 PM | TheFu | 95degF here today.
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| 7:09:38 PM | sparklyballs | 240 volts or go home
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| 7:09:42 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | This is why I tell people that 240v equipment is better than 120v. 120v you are paying to run current to ground. but with 240v you usually are not. Like 120v vs 240v lighting or heating equipment.
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| 7:10:06 PM | alpeck | I just turned my furnace off a couple of weeks ago and almost needed it again yesterday...then this weekend will definitely have to turn the air conditioning on
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| 7:10:27 PM | alpeck | where did the spring go
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| 7:10:57 PM | TheFu | Many UPSes have built-in W-meters.
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| 7:11:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | an electric heater works by shorting out the 120v line to ground with an element in between. VS a 240v heater you arae shorting 2 120v lines out through the element itself. Thus most power is being used to create the heat vs paying to short out a 120v line to ground.
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| 7:12:43 PM | TheFu | Govt? Power?
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| 7:12:45 PM | TheFu | Huh?
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| 7:12:53 PM | alpeck | sorry Dooley_da_Vulcan but not sure what you are trying to say
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| 7:13:18 PM | TheFu | In Canada, they get power from the Govt, not the power company?
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| 7:13:21 PM | TheFu | Eh?
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| 7:13:35 PM | TheFu | 0.18 canadian?
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| 7:13:58 PM | SashaD2 | The power company is owned by the government... I think
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| 7:14:31 PM | orangeman | Robbie I pay 15p per khw
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| 7:14:32 PM | alpeck | that is right TheFu i believe peak demand power is sold at $0.18 per kWh
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| 7:14:38 PM | sparklyballs | as long as you're in a 100 subunits to a currency unit area the actual currency is irrelevant
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| 7:14:42 PM | alpeck | in Ontario
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| 7:15:20 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | price of running 120v equipment vs a 240v piece of equipment. like heaters. with a 120 you have 1 hot line and a neutral that you short the 120v line to and some of the power is used to make the heat and most of the rest is shorted to ground. whereas with a 240v is 2 120 lines shorting out through the element so not paying to shour out power to gro
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| 7:15:21 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | und
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| 7:15:24 PM | sparklyballs | there are still some places around though where aren't 100 subunits to a currency unit
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| 7:15:28 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | shour short
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| 7:15:28 PM | alpeck | it varies widely between provinces
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| 7:15:37 PM | TheFu | Depends if the fridge was running to cool it or not.
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| 7:15:53 PM | orangeman | Robbie I can read value off my power meter the mult 0.15 this will results in pounds
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| 7:16:12 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I wish that herre in the US we were using mostly 240v
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| 7:16:39 PM | orangeman | 110 v does kill not real mains power
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| 7:16:49 PM | TheFu | We are - well - into the house anyway and for very large electric appliances.
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| 7:16:57 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | what orangeman?
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| 7:17:26 PM | TheFu | 36 cores!
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| 7:17:46 PM | TheFu | Chromebook - less than 18W.
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| 7:17:58 PM | alpeck | current does not flow thru ground Dooley_da_Vulcan but thru neutral as you said
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| 7:18:10 PM | sparklyballs | my unraid has 22 hard drives in it, lol.
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| 7:18:14 PM | orangeman | when I work I was woking with power supply s run 1000 -3000 v and it supply lot current and did kill you
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| 7:19:17 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | it phases to the neutral and to heat an element it phases from positive to negative through the neutral to ground. Your neutral is truly ground. they hook to the same bus
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| 7:20:04 PM | TheFu | $600+ /yr
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| 7:20:11 PM | alpeck | true but ground is for protection and no actual current normally flows thru it
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| 7:20:30 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | unless you are in a sub panel, but it does end up on the same bus in the main panel/
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| 7:20:32 PM | alpeck | if it does you have a problem
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| 7:21:01 PM | sparklyballs | 24 / 8.5 will give you how many 8.5 in 24 then times that by .71 to give you daily rate
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| 7:21:47 PM | TheFu | $2/day x 365 ...
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| 7:22:27 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | correct, or shouldn't and your neutral is carrying away the unbalanced load or unused power of the circuit. so with say the 120v light, a given amount of power is used to light the bulb and the rest is going to ground through the neutral. which is not what you do with 240v light.
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| 7:22:34 PM | TheFu | But you can surf REALLY fast!
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| 7:23:40 PM | sparklyballs | i have double figure computers and it's just me HenryBB lol.
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| 7:23:45 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | that is what kills me when people say THERE IS NO POWER ON THE WHITE WIRE. its carrying away whatever power is not being used to do the work required
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| 7:25:24 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: I have 5 computers running, and I live alone. They consume about 500 watts total, when idle.
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| 7:25:25 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | That is why you can get bit when touching the white wire and ground. If you are a more direct path to ground than the neutral line is and you happen to be part of the path well you are getting bit. lol
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| 7:25:53 PM | TheFu | What is a "computer" for counting purposes?
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| 7:26:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | 500 watts while idle, can get real pricey if you started doing video processing on them all at once
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| 7:26:17 PM | TheFu | Does the fact that I have to ask say something?
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| 7:26:41 PM | alpeck | Dooley_da_Vulcan: the only inefficiency of an unbalanced load is you can not pull full power since conductors are sized for a specific amperage. i.e. 100amp at 120v is 12kW will the same current pulled on a balanced load is still 100amps but at 240v meaning 24kW
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| 7:26:55 PM | ABQTKY | Woops!!
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| 7:26:57 PM | TheFu | Down-Watt your CPUs! It is amazing what they can get into 65W these days.
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| 7:26:59 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | what happened?
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| 7:27:04 PM | TheFu | feed gone!
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| 7:27:06 PM | alpeck | ^while
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| 7:27:07 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I thought it was my current setup
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| 7:27:17 PM | sparklyballs | they decided it was using too much juice and cut the live feed
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| 7:27:28 PM | TheFu | I'm on a kodi stream ...
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| 7:27:29 PM | Solbu | It's robbie unplugging the servers, to save electricity. -)
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| 7:27:29 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | hmmmm but when they leave chat and video halts all at once....not me
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| 7:27:35 PM | alpeck | feed gone here as well
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| 7:27:45 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | TheFu did they leave for you also
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| 7:27:56 PM | GPOP7 | Here too.
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| 7:28:00 PM | TheFu | 7:27:05
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| 7:28:15 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | The wife seen the show and killed it right then
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| 7:28:34 PM | alpeck | haha Dooley_da_Vulcan
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| 7:28:40 PM | alpeck | she sure did
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| 7:28:46 PM | sparklyballs | i've got several pi's and other arm boards, a laptop , an imac , two mac minis , two n54l's and my unraid server
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| 7:28:47 PM | RobbieF | we back?
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| 7:28:48 PM | TheFu | Got an offer from the power company yesterday to "level the bill" - $79/month.
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| 7:28:51 PM | TheFu | YEp.
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| 7:28:55 PM | RobbieF | yay
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| 7:29:03 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | RobbieF what happened
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| 7:29:17 PM | alpeck | their back
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| 7:29:21 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Yeah SashaD2 it said you left and rejoined
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| 7:29:22 PM | napa_polarbear | here
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| 7:29:32 PM | TheFu | Actually, Sasha - you did leave at 7:28:12.
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| 7:29:33 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: You're not supposed to shut of the servers during the live show. ;-)
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| 7:30:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I am actually watching the show on dual monitors, so I do not have to do split screen
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| 7:30:17 PM | TheFu | stuttering ...
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| 7:30:34 PM | Solbu | ;-)
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| 7:30:39 PM | TheFu | Yep. Don't have a real server at home.
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| 7:31:09 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | only server I have is my Plex Server, which is my main pc also
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| 7:31:23 PM | TheFu | video froze, but audio is skipping ...
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| 7:31:29 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | for about a week or so
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| 7:32:10 PM | napa_polarbear | need pass port 2 get home
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| 7:32:24 PM | TheFu | Have 3 "servers", but a few r-pis and laptop and chromebook. All doing stuff 24/7/365
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| 7:32:32 PM | TheFu | The servers run 10 VMs each.
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| 7:32:46 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | WOW
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| 7:32:48 PM | TheFu | They are 5 yr old desktops, not real servers.
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| 7:32:50 PM | napa_polarbear | chk out the chil
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| 7:32:57 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | anything public
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| 7:33:01 PM | TheFu | Sure.
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| 7:33:12 PM | napa_polarbear | chk out the chip
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| 7:33:48 PM | napa_polarbear | it`s linux
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| 7:34:54 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | lets see......MS is seeing that people are running from WIN10 and thus they cannot watch your searches, so they say they will pay you to use BING
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| 7:34:55 PM | ABQTKY | Repeat woops??!!
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| 7:35:15 PM | TheFu | Windows? Bing?
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| 7:35:34 PM | robgor | first time I get to watch the show live and the stream goes off air :(
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| 7:35:59 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | robgor: its live now
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| 7:36:15 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | try hitting F5
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| 7:36:50 PM | TheFu | Love those Canadian accents!
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| 7:37:23 PM | robgor | ah thanks Dooley back again :)
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| 7:37:45 PM | alpeck | TheFu what accent...we don't have accents
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| 7:37:52 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | no problem, you are welcome
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| 7:38:17 PM | TheFu | Just a bunch of little things. Like you'd say about mine.
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| 7:38:17 PM | sparklyballs | apple macbook pro RobbieF
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| 7:38:36 PM | TheFu | Hey Sparkly!
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| 7:38:46 PM | sparklyballs | hi TheFu
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| 7:39:04 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | hey TheFu, anything of interest to middle aged nerds? lol
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| 7:39:28 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | MIRIAD......????? Supergirl will come shut it down
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| 7:39:33 PM | Solbu | The year of Linux on the ATMs…
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| 7:39:36 PM | TheFu | SouthEast Linux Fest starts tomorrow in CHT.
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| 7:40:15 PM | sparklyballs | woz said companies like apple google and amazon are too big to innovate
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| 7:40:19 PM | TheFu | But getting anything repaired today is still a mystery to Apple customers.
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| 7:40:56 PM | TheFu | Just try to get a cracked macbook screen fixed while you wait.
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| 7:41:38 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Where is the SE LinuxFest going on at?
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| 7:41:42 PM | TheFu | CHT
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| 7:41:51 PM | sparklyballs | DONT SAY ALEXA RobbieF
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| 7:41:55 PM | TheFu | Or is it CLT?
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| 7:41:55 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Alexa go get my coffee
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| 7:41:59 PM | HenryBB | LMAO!
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| 7:42:12 PM | TheFu | Wooosh!
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| 7:42:14 PM | BobK54 | airport marriot in charlotte NC
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| 7:42:34 PM | TheFu | Sheriton, methinks.
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| 7:42:38 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Never anywhere around Indiana
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| 7:42:46 PM | TheFu | Raod Trip!
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| 7:42:51 PM | TheFu | You can do it!
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| 7:42:55 PM | BobK54 | at one time there was Indiana Linux Fest. it died though
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| 7:42:55 PM | alpeck | gravitational lens has been seen a lot but measuring the amount I don't know
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| 7:43:18 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | its called a genius being proved right again
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| 7:43:20 PM | robgor | anyone here use wordpress?
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| 7:43:34 PM | alpeck | cool
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| 7:43:35 PM | TheFu | On of my sites runs it, but I'm not admin.
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| 7:43:37 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | of course
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| 7:43:44 PM | TheFu | And don't want to be.
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| 7:43:46 PM | Solbu | I use pelican.
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| 7:43:50 PM | robgor | thanks robbie
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| 7:43:51 PM | sparklyballs | einstein got some stuff wrong though too
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| 7:43:55 PM | TheFu | Clap. Clap.
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| 7:44:01 PM | robgor | thanks robbief
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| 7:44:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | of course, if he never got anything wrong he wasn't trying hard enough
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| 7:44:28 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | the more trys the more fails
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| 7:44:48 PM | TheFu | Married a 1st cousin. Isn't that "wrong?"
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| 7:45:07 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | depends, was it blood related
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| 7:45:10 PM | alpeck | definitely TheFu
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| 7:45:19 PM | sparklyballs | depends where you are TheFu
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| 7:45:31 PM | alpeck | did see that on sparklyballs
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| 7:45:40 PM | sparklyballs | or if you're royalty
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| 7:46:01 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | maybe he thought she was smart and hoped to keep the genes going, but it doesn't work that way. you get an extra limb or a third eye
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| 7:46:09 PM | napa_polarbear | have u seen the 9$ chip
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| 7:46:18 PM | alpeck | if not blood relative are you not considered 1st cousin
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| 7:47:03 PM | TheFu | napa_polarbear: what's about the chip? which chip? huh?
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| 7:47:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | He does Q well
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| 7:47:23 PM | sparklyballs | alexa say codjak and not kojak
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| 7:47:25 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | hahaha I guess that was bad
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| 7:47:53 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Star Trek as read by Q
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| 7:48:27 PM | sparklyballs | libresonic is a great app for streaming audiobooks to devices
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| 7:48:38 PM | napa_polarbear | nextthing.co has a 9$ computer, runs linux
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| 7:48:44 PM | BobK54 | its been a while since I checked, does Audible support Linux yet?
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| 7:49:01 PM | sparklyballs | booksonic even..... grrr
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| 7:49:03 PM | TSmith1 | try libravox.org for somefree audio books...
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| 7:49:13 PM | TheFu | Off-brand chips and MBs are hard for normal people to use.
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| 7:49:45 PM | TheFu | If you want low cost and like to tinker, beagle-board is as far off the normal path as I'd like to go.
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| 7:49:51 PM | alpeck | what kind of apps can you get for the chip
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| 7:50:00 PM | TheFu | cough .... youtube ... .audiobooks.
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| 7:50:40 PM | TheFu | BobK54: There's an android app, that's linux.
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| 7:50:51 PM | napa_polarbear | good for gameing
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| 7:51:21 PM | BobK54 | TheFu - yep I thought so. I can get that on my tablet.
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| 7:51:52 PM | napa_polarbear | runs deb
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| 7:51:57 PM | robgor | RobbieF Try using ExpressVPN Iam using that on Ubuntu Linux, easy to setup
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| 7:52:19 PM | TSmith1 | try libravox.org for some free audio books (public domain books)
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| 7:52:27 PM | TheFu | China is hard-from the mainland.
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| 7:52:50 PM | TheFu | China blocks many popular VPNs.
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| 7:53:01 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: The Tor browser. It's the Firefox browser with a tor client buildt in.
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| 7:53:18 PM | alpeck | does it have losts of GPIO with decent IDE to use it napa_polarbear
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| 7:53:33 PM | TheFu | The best way is to have a known, private, openVPN server outside China. Not well-known.
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| 7:54:02 PM | napa_polarbear | ya it is good
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| 7:54:08 PM | Solbu | The great firewall of Canada.
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| 7:54:26 PM | alpeck | can i get it on amazon???
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| 7:54:51 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | napa_polarbear: that chip card has only 512 Mb of ram
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| 7:54:55 PM | TheFu | alpeck: You can use a mini-EC2 instance for a vpn, if you like.
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| 7:55:27 PM | napa_polarbear | don`t know, i get it from there web site
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| 7:56:06 PM | HenryBB | There are other good VPN's you can use as well, but are payware such as Avira :)
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| 7:56:40 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | that is where I am at. it has a composite video output. I guess for certain tasks it will be great at $9
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| 7:57:17 PM | napa_polarbear | not big just fun
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| 7:57:32 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Your problem is the http proxy setting. You have a socks proxy, not an http proxy..
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| 7:57:33 PM | alpeck | definitely for a dedicated purpose the price is right Dooley_da_Vulcan
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| 7:57:55 PM | alpeck | stream stopped again
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| 7:58:04 PM | TheFu | Dropped!
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| 7:58:05 PM | napa_polarbear | they have hdmi plug in
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| 7:58:13 PM | TheFu | ufw disable
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| 7:58:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Sudo UFW disable
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| 7:58:19 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | lol
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| 7:58:20 PM | TheFu | ufw status
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| 7:58:26 PM | TheFu | not ufw --status
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| 7:58:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | did he freeze up again
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| 7:58:48 PM | TheFu | ufw disable;ufw disable;ufw disable;ufw disable;ufw disable;
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| 7:58:49 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | yep, they are gone again
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| 7:59:06 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | he must of hit Server disable
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| 7:59:14 PM | napa_polarbear | roku out
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| 7:59:14 PM | Solbu | Maybe he killed the internett.
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| 7:59:24 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Ahhh, they are all back again
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| 7:59:26 PM | sparklyballs | and back
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| 7:59:33 PM | TheFu | Well ... giving out the live IP ...
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| 7:59:45 PM | sparklyballs | i have sound no video
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| 8:00:11 PM | TheFu | I have a screen and some audio
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| 8:00:17 PM | sparklyballs | and both back
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| 8:00:21 PM | TheFu | audio is dropping out.
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| 8:00:34 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I had a moment of video and sound then nothing
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| 8:00:39 PM | alpeck | i have both back
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| 8:00:52 PM | HenryBB | yeah sorry all internet went out for a sec there
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| 8:01:17 PM | TheFu | Yep. Buffering. Leaving and coming back in fixed it.
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| 8:01:23 PM | HenryBB | robbie must've put the wrong code and killed the web haha
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| 8:02:02 PM | TheFu | chromium-browser \
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| 8:02:02 PM | TheFu | --proxy-server="socks5://localhost:64000"
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| 8:02:28 PM | TheFu | Easier than keeping different profiles on Firefox.
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| 8:03:07 PM | TheFu | When in China, bypassing their firewall is illegal, BTW.
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| 8:03:23 PM | alpeck | excellent demonstration RobbieF
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| 8:04:14 PM | robgor | Robbief forgot to mention using sydney theme
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| 8:04:25 PM | alpeck | pickles.com
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| 8:04:48 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: To easy toggle proxy on and off, I use the QuickJava firefox plugin. It gives me a button in the toolbar to toggle proxy, amongs other things.
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| 8:05:29 PM | TheFu | Florence
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| 8:05:53 PM | alpeck | that just cost you $0.25 RobbieF
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| 8:05:55 PM | BobK54 | that image just cost Cd$0.50 TO DOWNLOAD
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| 8:07:09 PM | TheFu | I'd use imagemagick - convert ...
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| 8:08:43 PM | TheFu | Can web-optimize with convert too.
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| 8:09:32 PM | TheFu | convert -quality $QUAL "$img" "$NEW"; # 40 for qual usually works fine and the images are 80+% smaller.
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| 8:16:25 PM | robgor | Thanks RobbieF images are from DSLR so yeah will use higher images
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| 8:16:43 PM | TheFu | Does WP always scale?
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| 8:16:50 PM | TheFu | Or is that an addon?
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| 8:18:07 PM | alpeck | be carefull SashaD2 when cycling
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| 8:18:09 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | good night all
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| 8:18:17 PM | Mik3_0 | Bye!
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| 8:18:25 PM | BobK54 | night all!!
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| 8:18:34 PM | TheFu | g'nite
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| 8:18:47 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | or at least RobbieF, SashaD2 and HenryBB
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| 8:19:26 PM | HenryBB | haha night!
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| 8:19:41 PM | alpeck | good night all
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| 8:20:06 PM | sparklyballs | good night all
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| 8:20:08 PM | SashaD2 | I will be careful :)... good night all!
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| 8:20:30 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | bye, I am the people
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| 8:21:18 PM | gpop7 | Great show. Have a great week. Goodnight all.
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| 8:21:22 PM | Solbu | Like an astronaut.. hehe. THat was a good one.
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| 8:22:00 PM | gpop7 | They drop the mic and step
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| 8:23:37 PM | TheFu | Met about 30 astronauts for my day job years ago.
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| 8:24:02 PM | TheFu | Most are very nice people, most of the time.
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| 8:24:29 PM | TheFu | But everyone has stressful days and some don't handle it with as much grace as others.
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| 8:26:39 PM | Mik3_0 | Video is still on Robbie
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| 8:27:25 PM | garywhite | is the show over or not?
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