| 6:58:07 PM | garywhite | Now Toyota is going to use Linux?
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| 6:58:09 PM | Guest_4864 | How?
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| 6:58:23 PM | Solbu | Or use kodi. :-)
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| 6:58:27 PM | SashaD2 | That was last week's news :)
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| 6:59:00 PM | Garbee | Guest_4864: Because live streaming over HTTP alone is far from trivial and most services don't offer it.
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| 6:59:25 PM | Guest_4864 | Solbu, why should we have to download ANYTHING to watch it. Every other show simply plays in a browser window.
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| 6:59:50 PM | RobbieF | We have HLS but I don't have time to tutorial about it :)
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| 6:59:58 PM | RobbieF | anyone have the link for them?
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| 6:59:59 PM | Garbee | Guest_4864: Are those live streams?
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| 7:00:21 PM | RobbieF | HLS ... HTML Live Stream
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| 7:00:29 PM | RobbieF | (guessing) lol
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| 7:00:47 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Yea close enough if it isn't.
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| 7:00:57 PM | Garbee | Still, depends on Browser and Platform for support.
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| 7:01:00 PM | Guest_4864 | Yes they are Garbee. This is the ONLY live stream I've run into over the last few years that still requires Flash or some other program to view it live. Every other one plays directly in a browser window.
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| 7:01:07 PM | SashaD2 | We are so close to being on the air... :)
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| 7:01:28 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: I mentioned just prior to you joining, that I watched episode 319 when the backdrop was the Enterprise bridge. THat was awesome. You should do that again, some day. Maybe on the Voyager next time. :-)
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| 7:01:28 PM | Garbee | Guest_4864: I have come across very few live streams that haven't required Flash. So that's interesting.
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| 7:01:43 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: And a quick Google search isn't pulling up the HLS link.
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| 7:02:11 PM | HenryBB | Hey all, just finishing up a few things, should be starting soon.
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| 7:03:13 PM | Guest_4864 | Well so much for watching it live then. I would think after your statement that the site didn't require Flash during the remodel a year or so ago that it actually wouldn't, but it seems I was mistaken. Oh well, not worth the hassle.
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| 7:04:21 PM | Solbu | It's alive. ;-)
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| 7:04:59 PM | Garbee | We can hear you.
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| 7:05:16 PM | napa_polarbear | roku not up
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| 7:05:57 PM | Solbu | The Kodi stream is working.
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| 7:05:59 PM | sparklyballs | kodi is up
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| 7:06:11 PM | Lyndon | Love that BATMAN shirt!!
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| 7:06:20 PM | Garbee | FORGET DST!
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| 7:06:29 PM | Garbee | Also timezones in general.
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| 7:06:38 PM | Garbee | BATMAN!
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| 7:06:50 PM | Garbee | MYSELF!
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| 7:07:01 PM | Garbee | For the people I admire portion^^
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| 7:07:19 PM | Solbu | 01:07 CEST. :-)
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| 7:07:39 PM | Lyndon | I have a shirt that says " Live Every Day Like You're BATMAN"
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| 7:07:39 PM | Garbee | lol no you don't.
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| 7:07:41 PM | Garbee | :P
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| 7:07:59 PM | sparklyballs | adlib it or go home SashaD2
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| 7:08:21 PM | TheFu | Talk in a deep voice, to yourself.
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| 7:08:27 PM | Lyndon | sneak around and beat up bad people
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| 7:08:37 PM | Garbee | "right at"
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| 7:08:43 PM | Garbee | as in, "30 minutes after"
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| 7:08:58 PM | SashaD2 | thats about it!
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| 7:09:07 PM | Lyndon | oh no
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| 7:09:07 PM | TheFu | Ouuuuutage.
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| 7:09:15 PM | Garbee | I can hear you.
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| 7:09:18 PM | Garbee | No static stuff either.
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| 7:09:21 PM | Garbee | All clean sound.
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| 7:09:30 PM | TheFu | Yep.
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| 7:09:33 PM | Lyndon | Love your shirt too Robbie
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| 7:09:48 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Hello Everyone
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| 7:09:52 PM | Cee_128d | Some people near where I live have been without power for almost a week now due to storms.
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| 7:09:59 PM | RobbieF | Thanks Lyndon
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| 7:09:59 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: You are Go for launch
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| 7:10:43 PM | Lyndon | 64gb
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| 7:10:53 PM | TheFu | 128MB.
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| 7:11:09 PM | Lyndon | Mine was 256mg
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| 7:11:10 PM | TheFu | It was in a swag bag.
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| 7:11:11 PM | Garbee | First, no idea. Like 64MB or 128MB most likely.
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| 7:11:13 PM | Cee_128d | 128 meg for me
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| 7:11:19 PM | Garbee | USB 1.1
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| 7:11:21 PM | Garbee | :P
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| 7:11:47 PM | Lyndon | Yes!
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| 7:11:51 PM | Solbu | The first I bought was 32 Gb, for use in my car stereo.
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| 7:11:58 PM | sparklyballs | yeah mine was 32MB
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| 7:11:59 PM | Cee_128d | My second was 256 megs and my daughter still uses it.
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| 7:12:00 PM | Lyndon | better than Floppy
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| 7:12:01 PM | napa_polarbear | 2gb
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| 7:12:37 PM | TheFu | I can probably find a 160Kb floppy around here.
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| 7:12:42 PM | Garbee | I carry a USB3.0 64GB drive and 2.0 32GB drive.
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| 7:12:46 PM | napa_polarbear | 1 tb
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| 7:12:51 PM | Lyndon | So in 10 years how big will they be
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| 7:12:55 PM | Lyndon | ??
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| 7:13:11 PM | TheFu | Depends if the current ones have died.
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| 7:13:19 PM | Garbee | I also have gorilla drive 32GB (maybe 64). A slim sandisk 32GB one. And quite a few others laying around.
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| 7:13:22 PM | napa_polarbear | 40 gb
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| 7:13:22 PM | sparklyballs | i haven't carried a flash drive in my pocket for years
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| 7:13:27 PM | garywhite | I have a bunch of old 100MB superdisks upstairs, & a bunch of 1.44MB floppies for my old HP notebook
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| 7:13:33 PM | TheFu | 64G is my largest - don't want the exfat.
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| 7:13:33 PM | Dennis_Kelley | such nerds! I love it!
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| 7:13:41 PM | Lyndon | will we even have USB Flash drives in 10 years?
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| 7:13:49 PM | benrob0329 | RobbieF: could you grab that Wirecast recording please?
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| 7:13:51 PM | Lyndon | I hope not
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| 7:13:56 PM | ABQTKY | SashaD2 - They should mention KINGSTON also makes those USB sticks.
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| 7:13:58 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: In some form yes.
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| 7:14:17 PM | SashaD2 | We certainly will :)
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| 7:14:46 PM | ABQTKY | SashaD2 - Nice save by Robbie
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| 7:14:57 PM | Garbee | ABQTKY: Got a link?
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| 7:14:58 PM | Lyndon | I think we will have some kind of wireless tech probaby built into phones
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| 7:14:59 PM | TheFu | My car doesn't have USB ports built-in. I don't usually carry any flash drives. That isn't my sort of job.
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| 7:15:03 PM | Garbee | I haven't seen any Kingston slim profile drives.
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| 7:15:09 PM | Cee_128d | I carry ADATA, TeamGroup, and Sandisk. Gave up on Kingston products years ago as they just don't hold up well enough.
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| 7:15:14 PM | napa_polarbear | 62 gb
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| 7:15:15 PM | sparklyballs | i remember when the first 1GB hard drive came out and everyone at the computer company i worked for at the time was saying no one will ever need that much storage.
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| 7:15:46 PM | garywhite | In 6 months when I can drive, my car is gonna be so old, it has a cassette deck
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| 7:15:51 PM | Lyndon | thats what they said about 1TB drives
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| 7:15:57 PM | Garbee | ABQTKY: They do have "compact" but not the super-slim styles that Sandisk provides.
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| 7:16:21 PM | Cee_128d | That's also what they said about the first 10 MEG hard drives.
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| 7:16:37 PM | ABQTKY | Garbee - Would you believe I have a 32MB USB stick? It was massive. 8-)
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| 7:16:50 PM | Garbee | ABQTKY: I can imagine. I remember old ones.
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| 7:16:57 PM | Garbee | I think we still have one or two around in boxes.
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| 7:17:25 PM | sparklyballs | god i hate malls, they're the absolute expression of global brand domination and consumer choice erosion.
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| 7:17:40 PM | Lyndon | thats awesome
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| 7:18:12 PM | benrob0329 | Is the show live? Im on mobile so I cant tune in atm
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| 7:18:22 PM | Garbee | benrob0329: Yup.
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| 7:18:23 PM | RobbieF | yeah we're live
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| 7:19:54 PM | Lyndon | Thats a nifty mic
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| 7:19:55 PM | sparklyballs | nice maths on the fly there SashaD2
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| 7:19:56 PM | Garbee | How many of these interviews are there?
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| 7:20:15 PM | SashaD2 | I'm so bad at math!
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| 7:20:26 PM | HenryBB | it never ends... lol
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| 7:20:45 PM | TheFu | Really use microSD more than USB flash.
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| 7:21:55 PM | sparklyballs | that guy is like a whole half a person taller than you SashaD2
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| 7:22:06 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: way to go remembering those numbers.
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| 7:22:35 PM | Garbee | HenryBB: SashaD2 is a speedster!
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| 7:22:48 PM | HenryBB | haha true true!!
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| 7:22:48 PM | Garbee | Get her to hop over to Earth 2 and pick up a grilled cheese.
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| 7:22:53 PM | SashaD2 | Thank you :)
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| 7:22:56 PM | Lyndon | what about that data transfer rate?
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| 7:23:09 PM | Lyndon | i though it would be faster]
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| 7:23:17 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: Sasha remembered those on that last interview. It's like 200Mb/s write and 300Mb/s read.
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| 7:23:24 PM | Garbee | or 3/5.
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| 7:23:32 PM | Garbee | Something in one of those ranges.
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| 7:23:55 PM | Lyndon | isnt there faster speeds
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| 7:24:04 PM | Lyndon | arent*
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| 7:24:20 PM | Garbee | Yea, Read 300 and Write 200 Mbps.
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| 7:24:30 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: Yes, but think about the capacity.
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| 7:24:52 PM | Cee_128d | Lyndon, considering it's from Kingston you're lucky it's that fast.
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| 7:24:56 PM | TheFu | Using one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Memory-Reader-MicroSD-iPhone-Android/dp/B00U70J9UA/ to extend storage on a phone that doesn't support microSD. It connects over wifi.
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| 7:24:57 PM | Garbee | It's a different beast for the drive's controller to do handling of 2TB of space vs 128GB.
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| 7:25:03 PM | Lyndon | true
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| 7:25:33 PM | Garbee | But for *USB* there aren't things too much faster.
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| 7:25:35 PM | Garbee | Yes, they exist.
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| 7:25:39 PM | Garbee | But not many.
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| 7:25:51 PM | Garbee | Even for 3.1 drives.
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| 7:26:30 PM | Garbee | It's ~$1500 USD in America.
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| 7:27:05 PM | Lyndon | WOW
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| 7:27:06 PM | TheFu | If you need speed, avoid SATA/SAS and definitely USB. There are faster storage.
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| 7:27:19 PM | Garbee | DISK ENCRYPTION!
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| 7:27:29 PM | HenryBB | XD
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| 7:27:55 PM | Lyndon | I would just get a 2TB external harddrive for $50
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| 7:28:07 PM | sparklyballs | i'm not sure i want 2TB of data in an easily losable thing like that
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| 7:28:26 PM | Lyndon | right
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| 7:28:27 PM | Garbee | It's not for everyone for sure.
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| 7:28:42 PM | TheFu | And it costs more than my laptop.
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| 7:28:48 PM | Garbee | It is a niche target market looking for a drive with this size that could actually use it for its value.
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| 7:29:05 PM | Cee_128d | I agree Lyndon
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| 7:29:10 PM | Lyndon | I'll stick to my Raid1 4tb
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| 7:29:24 PM | TheFu | If I needed a bunch of files and was traveling to one of those middle-east countries with laptops not allowed on the flight ...
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| 7:29:27 PM | Lyndon | 2tb effectively
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| 7:29:39 PM | Garbee | DO NOT BUY electronics from ebay!
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| 7:29:40 PM | Garbee | Ever.
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| 7:29:44 PM | Garbee | They simply can't be trusted.
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| 7:29:55 PM | Lyndon | amazon
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| 7:30:05 PM | Lyndon | follow the stars
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| 7:30:08 PM | HenryBB | Can confirm from experience, don't buy computer stuff from ebay :(
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| 7:30:18 PM | Cee_128d | Depends on what you buy and who the seller is Garbee.
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| 7:30:20 PM | Garbee | Be very careful on Amazon too.
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| 7:30:28 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: You could also just install the OS on that drive, with normal partitioning and all. THEn you'd have a portable system that you can pop into random computers (at home, work, at friends etc.), and have a system that is configured for your use.
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| 7:30:30 PM | TheFu | Always test the full capacity of all USB/SD storage. Fill it up!
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| 7:30:34 PM | Garbee | Stars don't mean much there either. But if it is from *Amazon* direct (not distributed by) then it should be safe.
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| 7:30:59 PM | Garbee | Cee_128d: Ofc it does. But you simply can't vet sellers that thoroughly most of the time with electronics.
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| 7:31:10 PM | Garbee | Or know where they got the stuff from.
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| 7:31:14 PM | TheFu | I've had to return flash storage on amazon. Somehow it got into their supply chain. As usual, they made it good.
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| 7:31:26 PM | Lyndon | thats what I use my 16GB for Solbu
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| 7:31:45 PM | Lyndon | I have Mint18 on it
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| 7:32:04 PM | Garbee | Amazon direct can have bad stuff in their supply chain. But generally it is just bad/wonky stuff and not engineered to be *malicious* in some form.
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| 7:32:07 PM | Garbee | Big difference.
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| 7:32:34 PM | Lyndon | ok there we go
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| 7:32:41 PM | TheFu | Running an OS on flash is hard on the flash storage device. On an 8G sized one, I don't mind if it fails in 18 months.
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| 7:33:25 PM | Cee_128d | Garbee, I've been purchasing from Ebay since it opened and have only been burned once, and that was only for a $2 item. Had worse luck from Amazon, Newegg, and NCIX.
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| 7:33:29 PM | TheFu | That's freakin' fast!
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| 7:33:44 PM | HenryBB | gotta go fast!
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| 7:33:59 PM | Lyndon | I run the os on it but stor file to whatever Pc Im at
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| 7:34:07 PM | sparklyballs | finally a flash drive worthy of the name
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| 7:34:17 PM | Lyndon | or use a secondary usb flash drive
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| 7:34:25 PM | Garbee | Cee_128d: I've seen quite a few places that replace firmware on things to open holes and do other stuff. It isn't something easily found either by most people, since very few even know how to check firmware much less validate it.
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| 7:34:49 PM | Lyndon | Usb 2.0 is sooo slooow
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| 7:34:51 PM | TheFu | I see the exact same stuff on ebay and amazon. The difference is often qty 50 and a 20-100% higher price on amazon. Of course, that is for things where you want 5, but buying 50 is just a little more on ebay. Usually from China.
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| 7:34:55 PM | Garbee | And "New In Box" doesn't mean much unless you can verify how exactly how the original packaging is.
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| 7:35:04 PM | Lyndon | especially for movies and video
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| 7:35:15 PM | Cee_128d | Garbee, One has to use some discretion. If the price looks to be too good to be true it probably is. It's easy to spot the fakes on Ebay.
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| 7:35:26 PM | TheFu | Restored a 4T disk to a new disk a few weeks ago ... 26 hours.
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| 7:35:57 PM | Garbee | Cee_128d: Not unless someone is targeting the part of buyers with more money. Hence, more expendable income to attack in some form.
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| 7:36:48 PM | Lyndon | how did Robbie get that Flashdrive?
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| 7:36:54 PM | TheFu | At a Linux con last weekend, a storage vendor was re-covering a RAID5 disk array with 5 8TB disks under typical load. It was predicted to finish in 7 months.
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| 7:36:55 PM | Garbee | Buy two and RAID them.
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| 7:37:04 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: Probably work.
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| 7:37:12 PM | Garbee | He carries a bunch of stuff around on drives.
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| 7:37:16 PM | TheFu | RAID on USB? Meh.
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| 7:37:21 PM | Cee_128d | Garbee, it's all about reading between the lines and using some common sense before buying.
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| 7:37:24 PM | Garbee | Would make sense for him to get a large drive for that.
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| 7:37:30 PM | TheFu | Hey ... less than 30 min for Sasha!
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| 7:37:41 PM | Lyndon | Wireless
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| 7:38:03 PM | Lyndon | phone storage
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| 7:38:03 PM | TheFu | Anyone seen the movie "Her"? No need for storage.
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| 7:38:48 PM | TheFu | Show them the old "Hackers" movie. Floppies in there.
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| 7:38:54 PM | Garbee | I Google Drive most things.
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| 7:39:00 PM | Garbee | And git for my code repos.
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| 7:39:18 PM | Garbee | Cloud === "Someone else's computer"
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| 7:39:31 PM | TheFu | At the end of someone else's network.
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| 7:39:47 PM | Cee_128d | I use an old 5 1/4 in floppy disk as my name badge at the Food Pantry I volunteer at on Tuesdays. The clients love it.
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| 7:40:11 PM | sparklyballs | cloud aka someone you don't want having your data will eventually have it
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| 7:40:31 PM | Garbee | For Debian?!
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| 7:41:00 PM | Garbee | I've been using OpenSuSE since Friday.
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| 7:41:07 PM | Garbee | Gnome with loads of mods and extensions.
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| 7:41:11 PM | Garbee | Pretty nifty.
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| 7:41:12 PM | TheFu | free airfare?
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| 7:41:31 PM | sparklyballs | i used tumblewed for a while late last year Garbee
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| 7:41:34 PM | Cee_128d | Yep Garbee. Debian won't be free starting with the next release. It's going to set you back $29.95 per download.
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| 7:41:43 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: Yes, 17th.
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| 7:41:52 PM | HenryBB | sponsored by Henry Airlines... hehe
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| 7:41:59 PM | Garbee | sparklyballs: I'm on Leap.
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| 7:42:05 PM | Garbee | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch
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| 7:42:08 PM | garywhite | Now Debian costs $30?!?!
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| 7:42:19 PM | Mik3_0 | aaaaand I'm late.
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| 7:42:48 PM | Garbee | I'm investing in shaving all my hair off.
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| 7:42:54 PM | Garbee | Except a little so it keeps growing.
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| 7:42:59 PM | Garbee | I don't want to be bald like RobbieF.
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| 7:42:59 PM | sparklyballs | i really like the opensuse installer
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| 7:43:00 PM | Garbee | :P
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| 7:43:01 PM | Cee_128d | Sasha, you need to switch mid stream/episode.
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| 7:43:11 PM | Garbee | sparklyballs: Really?!
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| 7:43:16 PM | Garbee | I hate the abomination.
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| 7:43:24 PM | Garbee | HDD setup in particular is garbage.
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| 7:43:26 PM | sparklyballs | yeah Garbee , lol.
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| 7:43:31 PM | Garbee | Needs a complete UX rework there.
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| 7:43:57 PM | Garbee | herper derp.
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| 7:44:15 PM | sparklyballs | i dunno i just found it a breeze to use and set up packages etc
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| 7:44:21 PM | Lyndon | dirk dirka
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| 7:44:43 PM | Garbee | I like zypper loads.
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| 7:44:44 PM | Solbu | Fix it in the mail.
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| 7:45:21 PM | Garbee | But, the installer has its good points. But the partition setup bit in particular needs a complete rework on UX. It is way too easy for someone with a complex drive setup (like I do) to easily delete things by accident.
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| 7:45:54 PM | Garbee | And to "manually" do it you need to go into Expert mode and remember to *rescan* from scratch. Otherwise it is going to keep all of the original pre-computed modifications by default.
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| 7:45:55 PM | garywhite | Cee_128d is that true about $30/download for Debian?
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| 7:45:59 PM | TheFu | When Boeing can land at Paro in Buthan, I'll believe it. The approach is through mountain ranges with 3 blind corners.
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| 7:46:06 PM | Garbee | I think they are very close.
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| 7:46:07 PM | TheFu | Buhtan?
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| 7:46:18 PM | TheFu | I wrote avionics code.
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| 7:46:20 PM | Garbee | But that issue in particular is quite major for UX to get new users in.
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| 7:46:33 PM | TheFu | Wouldn't trust it. GPS isn't always correct.
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| 7:46:50 PM | Cee_128d | No Garbee. I was just pulling everyones leg about why they would have a commercial about Debian. Debian only charges for direct support.
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| 7:47:01 PM | TheFu | They had ground following controls for B-52s, but the pilots didn't really like it.
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| 7:47:17 PM | Garbee | garywhite: ^^
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| 7:47:59 PM | TheFu | Bhutan ... had to look it up. Check out the youtube videos on that approach.
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| 7:48:11 PM | sparklyballs | planes are so expensive that they also tend to have long working lives too HenryBB so that can also limit the uptake of new tech i should imagine
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| 7:48:45 PM | TheFu | The cost of fuel is more than the cost of the aircraft over the life of almost all planes.
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| 7:49:39 PM | TheFu | It will definitely be possible for big airports without complex take-off/landings.
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| 7:49:46 PM | Cee_128d | sparklyballs, they update the electronics and technology quite often. Not all of it, but quite a bit.
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| 7:50:01 PM | sparklyballs | yeah but the fuel is an ongoing cost that you cannot avoid that's incremental , a one off purchase or the lease payment on an aircraft is a large one of outlay
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| 7:50:03 PM | HenryBB | Honestly, many airlines are lucky if they can make 0.5% profit on flights. It has been much easier on the industry recently due to fuel prices and fuel hedging
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| 7:50:18 PM | HenryBB | (sorry, aviation geek here :P )
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| 7:51:04 PM | Solbu | The one action that saved the Sullenberg fligt, ws Sullenbergs decition to start the APU power backup system allmost instantly. Without that, he has said that they would have crashed long before reaching the river.
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| 7:51:07 PM | Garbee | HenryBB: Then how do they make so much money to keep the doors open and make investor happy?
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| 7:51:17 PM | Garbee | Can you just do a side show for like 30 minutes on that?
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| 7:51:38 PM | sparklyballs | Garbee ,, volume ?
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| 7:52:20 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: Not only that, but there are grammar tools you can automate to auto-correct grammar in things. So if a "synonomizer" does bad stuff, just shove it through one of those tools.
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| 7:52:30 PM | TheFu | Wonder how UBuntu Unleashed would turn out after run through a synonomizer?
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| 7:53:34 PM | TheFu | HenryBB: Or a sed script ...
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| 7:53:40 PM | sparklyballs | ubuntu isn't that something to do with friendship ? dogs are mans best friend, unleashed could be letting something go... "who let the dogs out"
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| 7:53:44 PM | Garbee | HenryBB: Quite possible. Google's new AI Processors in their Cloud Platform would be super adept at handling that kind of load for book analysis.
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| 7:54:13 PM | HenryBB | That would be so interesting! DO IT! and become a millionaire!
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| 7:54:16 PM | HenryBB | lol
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| 7:54:32 PM | Garbee | HenryBB: Like, it is interesting. But too much time for me right now.
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| 7:54:52 PM | Garbee | That is a fantastic idea though.
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| 7:54:53 PM | HenryBB | oh and for airlines it gets quite complicated but just like any other industry with ups and downs, but investors actually hate airlines lol not much profit
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| 7:54:55 PM | Garbee | Really good thought there.
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| 7:55:12 PM | sparklyballs | sodium also explodes in moisture
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| 7:55:20 PM | HenryBB | yaaay explosions!
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| 7:55:22 PM | Garbee | HenryBB: Hmm. I guess they stay open mostly by government funds then to help them stay open for transport.
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| 7:55:22 PM | Lyndon | oooooooo
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| 7:55:27 PM | Lyndon | pretty
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| 7:55:49 PM | HenryBB | well, legacy carriers, right? Air Canada, Lufthansa, etc... yay tax payers money!
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| 7:56:01 PM | TheFu | Don't see the pressure vessels.
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| 7:56:02 PM | HenryBB | SPACE BATCAR
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| 7:56:06 PM | Garbee | I have no clue about Canada's setup.
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| 7:56:35 PM | Garbee | In America though, governments give money to air companies to help keep "underserved" regions open with airports and travel.
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| 7:56:55 PM | Garbee | So ofc, that's a lot of money and the air companies skimp out on things where they can to keep more of it.
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| 7:56:59 PM | sparklyballs | how would GPS function on mars though if it were to leave the planet ?
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| 7:57:05 PM | sparklyballs | no sateliites
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| 7:57:07 PM | TheFu | No GPS on mars
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| 7:57:25 PM | HenryBB | they actually do on mars, they just use the sats there orbiting there instead
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| 7:57:37 PM | TheFu | I'm not certain it has a magnetic field either.
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| 7:57:42 PM | HenryBB | just call it MPS
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| 7:57:43 PM | Garbee | They can do other positioning tricks on Mars beyond a traditional 'GPS' system.
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| 7:57:47 PM | Garbee | TheFu: It does.
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| 7:57:48 PM | HenryBB | mars positioning system ;)
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| 7:57:54 PM | Garbee | It's just very small compared to ours.
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| 7:57:59 PM | Garbee | small/weak.
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| 7:58:32 PM | TheFu | https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/13939/gps-constellation-for-mars
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| 7:59:02 PM | Lyndon | I'm still waiting on my sticker
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| 7:59:10 PM | Garbee | Well, apparently only half of Mars has one it sounds like. http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2008/1710.html
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| 7:59:43 PM | sparklyballs | well mars is pretty tiny in comparision to earth and iirc it has little to no magnetic field and that was instrumental in it losing its atmosphere due to solar wind
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| 8:00:29 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: It is 8. You had to be out at 8 on the dot remember?!
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| 8:01:09 PM | SashaD2 | I have to go now!!!!
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| 8:01:14 PM | Garbee | Bye!
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| 8:01:17 PM | Garbee | Have a good week.
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| 8:01:27 PM | TheFu | Mars has about the same land mass as the Earth. The magnetic field isn't uniform. Localization is mainly from physical landmarks with radio communications from known satellites to get close.
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| 8:01:37 PM | SashaD2 | I will see you all next week!!!!
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| 8:01:41 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: Ah, so that is a review flash drive. Not a work one.
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| 8:01:49 PM | Lyndon | yup
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| 8:01:52 PM | Garbee | So he needs to send it back unless they're super nice.
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| 8:01:53 PM | TheFu | 8:01pm
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| 8:01:53 PM | Garbee | ;)
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| 8:01:55 PM | Lyndon | I cought that
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| 8:02:39 PM | Garbee | I think it would be... 2TB RobbieF.
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| 8:02:45 PM | Garbee | Is that close enough?
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| 8:03:00 PM | sparklyballs | that just highlights the size difference between earth and mars TheFu when two thirds of the earth surface is water
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| 8:03:30 PM | Garbee | rofl
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| 8:04:22 PM | TheFu | I'll decline to return that. Got a low-low-low-end SPARC once that way.
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| 8:04:25 PM | SashaD2 | lol.... they just keep talking!!!!
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| 8:04:28 PM | SashaD2 | arg
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| 8:04:33 PM | TheFu | I'd walk out.
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| 8:04:39 PM | Garbee | RobbieF: I'd be wary of using that for seeding.
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| 8:04:46 PM | Garbee | Could burn the controller pretty quickly.
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| 8:04:50 PM | SashaD2 | hahah... I don't know how to unplug
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| 8:04:52 PM | TheFu | Yep.
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| 8:05:01 PM | TheFu | USB storage isn't the same as other storage.
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| 8:05:04 PM | Garbee | uh-huh
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| 8:05:07 PM | Garbee | I'll remember that...
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| 8:05:14 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: That's when you share stuff.
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| 8:05:19 PM | sparklyballs | just run SashaD2 the wire will either snap or unplug
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| 8:05:20 PM | Garbee | Also you need to go...
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| 8:05:33 PM | TheFu | SASHA ... stop feeding the bears!
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| 8:06:07 PM | HenryBB | she needs to parkour it home!
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| 8:06:14 PM | TheFu | looks like a blank page here.
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| 8:06:29 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: IN a few weeks.
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| 8:06:33 PM | Garbee | I'll make RobbieF do a show on it.
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| 8:06:51 PM | Garbee | You can control the ratio as well.
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| 8:07:03 PM | Garbee | Like you only share it in full 3 times for your one download.
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| 8:07:37 PM | Garbee | Bye.
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| 8:07:38 PM | TheFu | In the old days, home routers couldn't handle all the peers in a "swarm"
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| 8:07:40 PM | Garbee | Good evening everyone.
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| 8:07:42 PM | Garbee | Thanks for showing up.
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| 8:07:48 PM | TheFu | Tag.
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| 8:08:22 PM | HenryBB | G'night!
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| 8:08:24 PM | Lyndon | c y'all laters
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| 8:08:27 PM | Garbee | I have a policy if I P2P something I do a 2 upload ratio if possible.
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| 8:08:36 PM | Garbee | Typically I let it sit for like a week.
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| 8:08:39 PM | sparklyballs | gnite folks
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| 8:08:51 PM | Garbee | And remove after that regardless of ratio.
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| 8:10:17 PM | garywhite | Oh great, it's going to be 102 degrees here & we have one of the worst electrical grids in the USA
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| 8:11:10 PM | ABQTKY | garywhite - Where are you?
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| 8:11:33 PM | garywhite | California
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| 8:12:53 PM | ABQTKY | garywhite - Between falling into the Pacific and having no juice...electrical or water type 'juice' - what a mess! Kind of warm here in New Mex, too.
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| 8:18:06 PM | TheFu | garywhite: Lots of great things about Cali. And lots of bad things. Just like everywhere else.
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| 8:18:33 PM | ABQTKY | good point!
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| 8:18:43 PM | TheFu | Just happy we don't have water shortages, earthquakes, or power issues here.
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| 8:19:39 PM | ABQTKY | Don't go reading about malware designed for 'the grid.'
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| 8:19:49 PM | TheFu | Plus Cali has been sending a ton of money here trying to change election results in a senate race - voting next Tuesday.
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| 8:20:21 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY: I've been to training on that.
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| 8:20:46 PM | ABQTKY | Ooh!
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| 8:22:35 PM | TheFu | In a neighbor state, the grid was taken out by a few trees for months. There was 1 line from the TVA powering an area. A storm took out a bunch of those huge power towers. They ran the patch on the ground for months before the replacement towers arrived.
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| 8:23:14 PM | TheFu | Ars did a story about the most common causes for huge power outages around the world.
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| 8:23:20 PM | TheFu | Wait for it ...
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| 8:23:34 PM | TheFu | Squirrels!
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| 8:23:40 PM | TheFu | They are out to get everyone!
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| 8:23:54 PM | TheFu | Well, just lost power here. Thunderstorm.
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| 8:24:04 PM | TheFu | Did I drop off?
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| 8:24:09 PM | ABQTKY | And there's probably much less redundancy in electrical systems than in 'the old days.'
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| 8:24:37 PM | TheFu | Heard all the UPSs beeping for about 5 sec.
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| 8:25:44 PM | ABQTKY | TheFu - What were they, Wallenda squirrels??
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| 8:26:27 PM | garywhite | I'm just gonna have to go order a battery-powered fan from Amazon & overnight it, otherwise it won't make it in time
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| 8:27:47 PM | ABQTKY | "Please charge your new battery powered fan for FOURTEEN hours before turning it on for the first time."
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| 8:28:03 PM | garywhite | it uses AA
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| 8:28:17 PM | ABQTKY | Oh, a little one, eh?
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| 8:28:20 PM | garywhite | & I have a bunch of AA batteries upstairs
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| 8:28:24 PM | garywhite | 5" fan
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| 8:28:33 PM | TheFu | Just learned that r-pi tries to boot off USB if it is connected.
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| 8:28:48 PM | TheFu | Thought my Pi had been fried from that last strike.
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| 8:29:06 PM | garywhite | I have a 10" that uses D batteries
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| 8:29:15 PM | TheFu | language!
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| 8:29:27 PM | garywhite | what?
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| 8:32:31 PM | TheFu | https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/whos-winning-the-cyber-war-the-squirrels-of-course/ - Who’s winning the cyber war? The squirrels, of course
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| 8:33:08 PM | ABQTKY | They're devious little guys.
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| 8:35:07 PM | ABQTKY | They'd go stir-crazy if all they had to do was go around collecting acorns. A little creative digital mischief on the side? We should have seen it coming!
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| 8:36:33 PM | TheFu | A good challenge is to try to create a squirrel-proof bird feeder. Took me 5 yrs and in the end, I bought one. Was unable to build it.
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| 8:37:07 PM | TheFu | It isn't squirrel proof anymore - tree limbs are within jumping distance now.
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| 8:37:47 PM | TheFu | Even a suction cup on the side of a 2nd story window didn't work.
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