| 6:58:14 PM | SashaD2 | Hello :)
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| 6:58:18 PM | Garbee | That's a big button RobbieF...
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| 6:58:32 PM | Garbee | YES!
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| 6:58:45 PM | Garbee | ah cool
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| 6:59:03 PM | Garbee | That's a nice trick.
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| 6:59:08 PM | Garbee | To not need to touch the screen as much.
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| 6:59:23 PM | Garbee | The CA knock-off of America's Thunderbirds.
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| 6:59:28 PM | Garbee | ;)
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| 6:59:33 PM | Garbee | Or our Blue Angles.
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| 6:59:36 PM | Garbee | Angels*
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| 6:59:51 PM | Garbee | Blue Angel's are our Navy.
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| 6:59:59 PM | Garbee | Thunderbird's are Army iirc.
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| 7:00:14 PM | Garbee | Oh no, Air Force is Thunderbirds.
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| 7:01:00 PM | Garbee | Keyboard Cat!
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| 7:01:11 PM | ABQTKY | That's right Garbee, after 1947 they became a separate service.
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| 7:01:55 PM | Garbee | ABQTKY: Yup. I just forgot whether the T-birds went with the AF or if they stayed as a part of the Army technically. Clearly, they separated with the branch.
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| 7:02:22 PM | Garbee | And this is why you show up live for the chatroom. Random history.
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| 7:02:28 PM | Garbee | especially the fun kind involving planes.
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| 7:03:04 PM | napa_polarbear | hello all
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| 7:03:16 PM | kc0wqh | Hi everyone!
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| 7:03:18 PM | TheFu | Snowbirds?
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| 7:03:33 PM | Garbee | BlizzardBirds
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| 7:03:56 PM | Garbee | Yea, SnowBirds TheFu.
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| 7:04:16 PM | Garbee | http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/2017/06/26/snowbirds-swooping-over-kempenfelt-bay-tuesday-afternoon
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| 7:04:24 PM | TheFu | USAF-brat here.
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| 7:04:25 PM | ABQTKY | Garbee, I just heard of a project to develop Aircraft Carriers made of...ice. I didn't make that up, honest!
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| 7:04:28 PM | Solbu | SashaD2: You have a kinda red laptop. :-)
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| 7:04:36 PM | Lyndon | Hello!
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| 7:05:14 PM | TheFu | Lyndon is always tied to "LUKS dump"
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| 7:05:59 PM | Dennis_Kelley | greeting everyone
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| 7:06:18 PM | Lyndon | Hahahaha
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| 7:06:52 PM | Solbu | Hehe
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| 7:08:02 PM | Garbee | The Treasure Chest beneath Robbie's desk.
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| 7:08:37 PM | Lyndon | Robbie feels like a super hero
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| 7:08:57 PM | TheFu | Robbie - is that the HDMI recorder?
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| 7:09:02 PM | Lyndon | Tech Hero!!!
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| 7:09:19 PM | TheFu | I don't think it plays anything. I have an AGPTek ... HDMI recorder.
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| 7:09:28 PM | TheFu | It looks like that.
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| 7:09:45 PM | TheFu | Doesn't play anything. Just records.
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| 7:10:18 PM | Garbee | It's so chill going back to 2 people from the 3.
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| 7:11:53 PM | Garbee | Not Family Friendly .... Sounds like John Wick.
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| 7:12:48 PM | TheFu | You guys need more FLARE!
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| 7:12:51 PM | Lyndon | What??!!
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| 7:13:03 PM | TheFu | Office- Space ref.
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| 7:13:04 PM | Lyndon | Lol TheFu
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| 7:13:09 PM | Garbee | OfficeSpace is not on Netflix in the US. :(
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| 7:13:14 PM | agamotto | Hallo, all
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| 7:13:15 PM | Garbee | DVD only.
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| 7:13:19 PM | Garbee | heyo agamotto!
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| 7:13:25 PM | SashaD2 | I need 15 flares
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| 7:13:51 PM | TheFu | I think 7 is the min, right?
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| 7:14:00 PM | TheFu | Did you get the red stapler?
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| 7:14:01 PM | agamotto | SashaD2: Flares, for what?
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| 7:14:05 PM | Lyndon | I hate Printers...
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| 7:14:18 PM | TheFu | Get those TPS reports ready!
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| 7:14:42 PM | Lyndon | I have 8 bosses!
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| 7:14:56 PM | TheFu | All named "Bob?"
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| 7:15:04 PM | Solbu | C3P0
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| 7:15:08 PM | Lyndon | yes
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| 7:16:18 PM | agamotto | If you have 8 bosses, you are underpaid!
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| 7:17:05 PM | agamotto | Thankfully, Unity is dead.
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| 7:17:06 PM | TheFu | FVWM-Crystal FTW!
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| 7:17:11 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | hello all
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| 7:17:47 PM | TheFu | Ja, hallo!
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| 7:18:26 PM | Lyndon | SooSeee??
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| 7:18:42 PM | TheFu | SuSE
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| 7:19:04 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: When you can ask Robbie where he got that shirt from please. It's a great shirt.
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| 7:19:10 PM | agamotto | All the options? Even the languages you don't use?
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| 7:19:19 PM | TheFu | Please cover the dangers of mixing different DEs under a single user login.
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| 7:19:28 PM | Garbee | OpenSUSE is awesome IMO.
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| 7:19:43 PM | Garbee | Just wish the Pantheon DE was stable on it.
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| 7:19:44 PM | TheFu | SashaD2: Mixing DEs can be dangerous to your config files.
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| 7:20:35 PM | TheFu | Not all related DEs have safe config settings for the others ... gnome2 stuff especially.
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| 7:21:06 PM | Solbu | RobbieF: Might want to mention that Windows have only one desktop environment, unlike Linux that have a Lot of DE's
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| 7:21:07 PM | agamotto | So much for the super thunderstorm that was supposed to blow us away this evening... :)
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| 7:21:24 PM | TheFu | When trying out different DEs, best to use different userids, to prevent incompatible settings.
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| 7:21:59 PM | Lyndon | eh
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| 7:22:10 PM | TheFu | Solbu: Actually, the end-users can put in a different "shell" on Windows too. It just isn't as popular.
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| 7:22:30 PM | agamotto | TheFu: Sound advice
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| 7:22:46 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Windows actually has had multiple desktops for a while. they just made it hard to find or get to
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| 7:22:52 PM | Lyndon | not compatable with everything. sorry
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| 7:22:56 PM | TheFu | The Ubuntu Guest account was perfect for that, before they killed it off (security issues).
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| 7:23:06 PM | Lyndon | Linux has its limits
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| 7:23:16 PM | Lyndon | time and a place
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| 7:23:19 PM | TheFu | i have my limits too. ;)
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| 7:23:28 PM | Lyndon | Ha
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| 7:23:31 PM | Lyndon | me too
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| 7:24:05 PM | Lyndon | Mint still has a guest mode doesn't it?
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| 7:24:20 PM | Garbee | Lyndon: Yes.
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| 7:24:22 PM | Garbee | And Elementary.
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| 7:24:25 PM | Garbee | Because they are LTS based.
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| 7:24:33 PM | Lyndon | right
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| 7:24:35 PM | agamotto | Wow... looking at the news, I am VERY happy to not be running Windows right now.
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| 7:24:36 PM | Lyndon | thought so
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| 7:24:40 PM | Garbee | Which doesn't have the SystemD issue causing the lockdown to not function.
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| 7:24:58 PM | TheFu | If they picked up the security patched for 16.04, the randomized guest account shouldn't work anymore.
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| 7:25:49 PM | TheFu | recoll for full text search on Linux - amazing. Like google for your own storage.
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| 7:25:57 PM | napa_polarbear | first, how 2 boot in 2 the distros.
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| 7:26:03 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: A tool called "Launchy" can search you files for you as well as apps.
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| 7:26:06 PM | Garbee | That runs on Linux.
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| 7:26:48 PM | TheFu | I've used launchy - vaguely remember it being nice.
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| 7:27:18 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: Also Catfish. So a few choices if the in-the-box solution isn't robust enough.
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| 7:27:18 PM | TheFu | But I'm a shell user - locate. There's always something, often great stuff.
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| 7:27:31 PM | agamotto | Cinnamon is a bit "too" simple. It hides some of the med/advanced stuff that you might need to tinker with shortly after an install.
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| 7:27:38 PM | Lyndon | My wife and kids can use Mint Cinnamon so...
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| 7:27:41 PM | TheFu | Thought Canada outlawed Google today?!
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| 7:27:48 PM | agamotto | Garbee: whereis?
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| 7:27:59 PM | agamotto | TheFu: No, the EU
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| 7:28:15 PM | Garbee | agamotto: Looking at GUI solutions to recommend to Sasha.
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| 7:28:20 PM | TheFu | I'll look for the link. Just saw it 30 min ago.
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| 7:28:23 PM | Garbee | From the ones I've used before.
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| 7:28:50 PM | agamotto | RobbieF: Why isn't the browser using DuckDuckGo?
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| 7:28:54 PM | TheFu | http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/google-ruling-1.4181322
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| 7:29:09 PM | TheFu | "Canada's top court backs order for Google to remove firm's website from global searches"
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| 7:29:43 PM | agamotto | Interesting... I have not caught up on the news in the last few days. I just saw a blipvert about the EU fine
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| 7:29:57 PM | garywhite | The EU banned Google?
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| 7:29:58 PM | TheFu | For calendaring, I use a addon for Thunderbird that links to an enterprise calendar in Zimbra.
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| 7:30:08 PM | Lyndon | looks like a calledar...
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| 7:31:15 PM | TheFu | Lightning is the addon for Thunderbird. Easy to schedule "every 13 weeks" reoccurring events.
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| 7:31:17 PM | agamotto | LDXE?
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| 7:31:30 PM | agamotto | Ahh
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| 7:31:41 PM | TheFu | KDE
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| 7:31:46 PM | TheFu | Gnome3
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| 7:32:08 PM | TheFu | Found LXDE to be bloated on a 2G chromebook.
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| 7:32:10 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 7:32:31 PM | Lyndon | I've got to go. Have a good night. See y'all
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| 7:32:35 PM | TheFu | Mom ran LXDE for a few years.
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| 7:32:39 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: Your background is a *user* preference.
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| 7:32:52 PM | Garbee | So it is generally saved in a DE agnostic place in sane setups.
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| 7:33:15 PM | Solbu | SashaD2: One test that is relevant for this is: What happens when one plugin a USB device, like a usbdisk or a usbkey.
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| 7:33:44 PM | TheFu | Hopefully nothing. The power to mount is the power to destroy.
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| 7:33:47 PM | Dennis_Kelley | SashaD2 robbief the calculator in linux does do days
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| 7:34:37 PM | TheFu | Dennis_Kelley: Not every DE will use the same "calculator" program behind the scenes.
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| 7:35:04 PM | Garbee | NaSC is a fantastic calculating tool.
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| 7:35:11 PM | Garbee | Not installed by default in any distro afaik. But well worth looking into installing.
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| 7:35:13 PM | Dennis_Kelley | but i noticed the mode button when he does have advanced settings
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| 7:35:25 PM | TheFu | Desktop alarm?
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| 7:35:35 PM | TheFu | tool?
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| 7:36:10 PM | TheFu | Must be Windows doing the capture. reboot?
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| 7:36:45 PM | Dennis_Kelley | I am installing linux mint for my sons laptop!
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| 7:36:53 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Robbie is not in chat
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| 7:37:06 PM | TheFu | Ubuntu-Mate is similar, with better support. IMHO.
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| 7:37:10 PM | Garbee | worksapce
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| 7:37:47 PM | TheFu | Is RobbieF using the AGPTek capture device?
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| 7:37:49 PM | Garbee | That's it.
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| 7:38:15 PM | Garbee | Nah it froze.
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| 7:38:18 PM | TheFu | Try to ssh in.
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| 7:38:42 PM | Garbee | Tap the num lock key.
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| 7:38:58 PM | TheFu | A frozen desktop isn't always a frozen computer.
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| 7:39:03 PM | Garbee | If the light doesn't flash that's an indicator of a kernel crash.
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| 7:39:17 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: ^^
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| 7:39:25 PM | Solbu | This is why we watch live. :-)
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| 7:39:42 PM | Garbee | neat little debugging trick.
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| 7:39:50 PM | Dennis_Kelley | there is no cryptic text on the blue screen! your good
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| 7:40:32 PM | Garbee | Install Pantheon RobbieF.
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| 7:40:34 PM | Garbee | That's how I debug it!
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| 7:40:35 PM | TheFu | I use lxrandr to manage multiple displays.
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| 7:40:40 PM | Garbee | :P
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| 7:40:48 PM | Garbee | Yea, That sounds about right.
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| 7:41:00 PM | Garbee | Gnome 3 being a problem with the display drivers.
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| 7:41:02 PM | TheFu | Simple, bonehead, resolution/hz/display choice tool.
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| 7:41:22 PM | Garbee | caps lock will work too instead of num lock.
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| 7:41:24 PM | Garbee | ;)
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| 7:41:42 PM | TheFu | Don't have capslock on mine - had to make that the "super" key.
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| 7:41:54 PM | Garbee | They're both Kernel-level things for the input. So that let's you know whether Linux is still running or something higher-up is the crash source.
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| 7:42:19 PM | TheFu | LIVE is fun!
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| 7:42:27 PM | TheFu | The demo-gods strike!
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| 7:42:46 PM | Garbee | Yea, that's a good trick too. Wasn't trying to get that deep with debugging!
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| 7:43:06 PM | Garbee | Ctrl + Alt + F{1-11} keys tend to confuse people tons.
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| 7:43:43 PM | Solbu | SashaD2: If the kernel crashes, the numlock light shuts off, and the caps and scroll lights starts blinking.
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| 7:44:02 PM | TheFu | Locking and kill X
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| 7:44:06 PM | Garbee | That was me.
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| 7:44:09 PM | Garbee | Loving the shirt.
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| 7:44:12 PM | TheFu | s/locking/login/
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| 7:44:17 PM | Garbee | And wanting to know where to get one.
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| 7:44:20 PM | Garbee | :D
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| 7:44:44 PM | SashaD2 | I'll ask when he is less focused on solving this!! :)
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| 7:44:55 PM | TheFu | Pulse audio issue?
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| 7:45:02 PM | agamotto | Well, poo.
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| 7:45:05 PM | TheFu | Going down the HDMI .... trail.
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| 7:45:07 PM | Garbee | Yea, this is a hard problem.
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| 7:46:02 PM | TheFu | PErhaps that AGPTek capture device will work? Even if we can't see it live, the post video will have it. ;)
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| 7:46:21 PM | Garbee | Thank you!
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| 7:47:15 PM | TheFu | Hanes.com had a huge sale yesterday. Lots of printed Tees. Think it goes until 6/30.
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| 7:47:54 PM | Solbu | SashaD2: Instead of mirroring the displays, he could switch which is primary and secondary display.
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| 7:47:55 PM | Garbee | http://6dollarshirts.com/be-kind
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| 7:48:09 PM | Garbee | No cat5 referral code that I know of for that one.
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| 7:52:13 PM | Garbee | Pantheon has Super + Right/Left arrow bound to workspace switching.
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| 7:52:22 PM | Garbee | It doesn't do window snapping.
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| 7:52:40 PM | TheFu | Certainly that is all configurable.
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| 7:52:53 PM | Garbee | Can't show Pantheon on the show tonight. It doesn't have an easy way to run on Debian.
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| 7:53:05 PM | Garbee | TheFu: Uh, I think you'd need to first install a tiling window manager.
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| 7:53:16 PM | agamotto | A scrolling list of mess?
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| 7:53:18 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: Alphabetical.
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| 7:53:19 PM | TheFu | twm ruined those for me.
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| 7:53:23 PM | Garbee | No re-ordering.
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| 7:53:57 PM | TheFu | F1?
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| 7:55:01 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: Tell him to click his userame in that menu.
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| 7:55:29 PM | TheFu | I can see where gnome3 in the hands of someone with a little experience could make it highly productive.
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| 7:56:36 PM | TheFu | Or more bloated?
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| 7:56:48 PM | TheFu | Or is it done?
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| 7:57:09 PM | Garbee | 7:30PM is what the time is.
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| 7:57:17 PM | Garbee | At least that's what you should tell yourself SashaD2...
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| 7:57:21 PM | TheFu | 7:57p here.
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| 7:57:46 PM | agamotto | Fitbits don't have clocks on them? 18:57 Central
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| 7:57:50 PM | Garbee | You didn't let me finish the joke!
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| 7:57:58 PM | Garbee | It does the first time.
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| 7:58:06 PM | Dennis_Kelley | two hour show!
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| 7:58:08 PM | Garbee | K takes some initialization work for all the config on first boot.
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| 7:58:18 PM | Garbee | It is faster on repeat loads.
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| 7:58:19 PM | TheFu | Thanks for showing all the desktops. I'm old and crufty, don't usually spend the time looking at new DEs - especially when they don't work well inside a remote VM.
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| 7:58:26 PM | Solbu | 01.58 am here. :-)
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| 7:58:53 PM | TheFu | Looks like Windows wanted to look.
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| 8:00:05 PM | Garbee | Yea, KDE is going for a "Convergence" type thing. Just not by re-inventing a whole new interface.
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| 8:00:24 PM | agamotto | The pic is just a launcher for the calc?
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| 8:00:30 PM | Garbee | ^^ Re: Phone-type interface mention.
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| 8:01:06 PM | TheFu | The calculator seems great - it isn't like we don't have numbers on our keyboards.
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| 8:01:45 PM | TheFu | I suppose we have the operations on the keyboards too. ;(
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| 8:01:48 PM | Garbee | SashaD2: You can edit the single-click in the System Settings.
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| 8:01:55 PM | Garbee | Somewhere dug in there for Dolphin settings.
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| 8:02:01 PM | Garbee | (Dolphin is the file manager's name)
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| 8:02:03 PM | agamotto | I prefer the single-click bit myself
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| 8:02:19 PM | Garbee | Configure Dolphin!
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| 8:02:28 PM | Garbee | Control
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| 8:03:15 PM | Garbee | Type to search in the K main menu should also search files like Windows.
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| 8:03:16 PM | TheFu | Mate DE is the easiest for a Windows-convert, IMHO. As someone gains more exposure, each DE has something to offer. Very enlightening.
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| 8:03:37 PM | agamotto | The only thing I want a double-tap on is touch interfaces... that and a proper dedicated "menu" button for everything
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| 8:04:32 PM | TheFu | Really don't want to be forced to use a mouse.
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| 8:05:07 PM | Solbu | So, can I have Emacs as my desktop environment? ;-)
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| 8:05:15 PM | TheFu | Certainly, but ..... why?
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| 8:05:42 PM | Garbee | Solbu: emacs probably isn't sophisticated enough to be a full DE. Try vim!
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| 8:05:43 PM | Garbee | :D
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| 8:05:47 PM | Solbu | Hehe. Just nkow Stallman says in some talks that some users never run anything But Emacs.
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| 8:05:52 PM | agamotto | CR2032?
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| 8:05:57 PM | Garbee | ^^
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| 8:06:07 PM | TheFu | CR2025?
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| 8:06:15 PM | Garbee | Which reminds me I need one of those for my fitness band...
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| 8:06:17 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Cool Two hour Show!
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| 8:06:51 PM | Garbee | You can eat the DE though!
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| 8:06:53 PM | TheFu | But emacs has a web browser, calendar, windowing, gopher, WAIS, and more!
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| 8:06:56 PM | Garbee | And it will taste so good.
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| 8:07:45 PM | TheFu | Seems like they could ahve just gotten the code from China or Russia easier.
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| 8:08:28 PM | TheFu | i2p - the dark-net.
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| 8:09:20 PM | Solbu | iSuper
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| 8:09:40 PM | TheFu | I wonder how much the NSA is laughing at the list.
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| 8:09:47 PM | agamotto | I would have thought it would be the fact that you don't have to pay for it, especially by iteration or core.
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| 8:09:51 PM | TheFu | She got it!
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| 8:10:41 PM | TheFu | So - is that faster than my iPhone?
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| 8:10:45 PM | agamotto | Hello, Watson.
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| 8:11:12 PM | TheFu | Weather prediction.
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| 8:11:30 PM | Solbu | Play Freecell…
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| 8:11:55 PM | TheFu | Sudoku?
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| 8:12:03 PM | TheFu | Soduku?
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| 8:12:52 PM | TheFu | Lock - HEED Martin. I used to work for them, twice.
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| 8:13:30 PM | agamotto | Our new I-74 bridge should be finished by then...
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| 8:14:20 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | marketing scheme
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| 8:14:41 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | SUDOKU.....YAY
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| 8:14:56 PM | agamotto | What a shame that for 30 years, Nintendo's marketing has not had an effect on me.
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| 8:17:00 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | agamotto: are you saying they are tugging on your soul again?
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| 8:17:32 PM | Garbee | Thanks for another great show!
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| 8:17:38 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Goodnight all
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| 8:17:44 PM | agamotto | Nah... I have managed to resist for this long. I couldn't get into the whole Nintendo... "feel" of things
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| 8:17:46 PM | kc0wqh | Bye!
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| 8:17:46 PM | SashaD2 | You are all so awesome... have a great week :)
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| 8:17:47 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | dang.....
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| 8:17:58 PM | Dennis_Kelley | Thanks SashaD2
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| 8:17:59 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Hooray....I'm for the other team
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| 8:18:16 PM | TheFu1 | SashaD2: Have a nice week!
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| 8:18:55 PM | TheFu1 | Bye.
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| 8:19:09 PM | Garbee | Blame for what?
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| 8:19:11 PM | Garbee | I'm a good chioce.
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| 8:19:13 PM | kc0wqh | intro
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| 8:20:35 PM | Mik3_0 | XChat keeps changing my username to my ham call. I think I got it fixed. We will see :)
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| 8:20:39 PM | Mik3_0 | There we go
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| 8:21:40 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | @RobbieF you could let online guests that have the hardware capabilities give the closing via mic. Of course this requires certain hardware...
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| 8:22:09 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Your face is just fine SashaD2
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| 8:22:16 PM | Garbee | Have a good week everyone!
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| 8:22:31 PM | Mik3_0 | You too Garbee!
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| 8:22:47 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | well there it may have an issue....lol
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| 8:22:53 PM | SashaD2 | good night for real now :)
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| 8:23:01 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Hey Garbee do you use a Roku?
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| 8:23:51 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Or anyone use a Roku
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| 8:24:25 PM | ABQTKY | Not for Cat5, but I have a Roku.
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| 8:24:33 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | have you been experiencing lots of issues since an update a few weeks ago?
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| 8:24:45 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | like certain apps not working?
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| 8:24:50 PM | TheFu | I use a roku, but not for Cat5. That's kodi on a Pi.
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| 8:24:53 PM | ABQTKY | No, nothing!
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| 8:25:09 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I have had to uninstall and reinstall certain ones. Or just have ones that just wont work at all
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| 8:25:13 PM | ABQTKY | What's happening...or what's NOT happening??
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| 8:25:15 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | hmmmm
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| 8:25:35 PM | TheFu | The roku needed to be rebooted yesterday. Can't remember needing to reboot in about a year previously.
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| 8:25:40 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I wonder. I mean I had 0 issues then the update and issues by the s core
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| 8:26:08 PM | TheFu | Hasn't been an issue for APV, just "free" channels with ad support.
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| 8:26:29 PM | ABQTKY | Ethernet of wifi? HDMI or composite?
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| 8:26:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | apps not running, saying stuff like not enough room to install the app, and it is installed and has been with no issues at all
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| 8:26:59 PM | Garbee | No I don't have a Roku.
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| 8:27:02 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | wifi, about 40 to 70 Mbit and HDMI
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| 8:27:05 PM | TheFu | I'm wired and HDMI. Roku3.
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| 8:27:10 PM | Garbee | I stream from the website.
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| 8:27:19 PM | ABQTKY | Mine is on a UPS, maybe summertime power issues??
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| 8:27:29 PM | TheFu | Mine is on a UPS too.
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| 8:27:46 PM | ABQTKY | That's two of us.
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| 8:28:09 PM | TheFu | And the roku connects to an AGPTek ... device.
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| 8:28:14 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 8:28:17 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | It was immediately following the update, like update on Tuesday morning and tuesday morning I am having issues
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| 8:28:32 PM | TheFu | What model Roku?
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| 8:28:45 PM | TheFu | I don't recall any updates.
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| 8:29:04 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I mean I was sitting there watching the Roku3, and there was an update. I do it. it come back on and there are problems
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| 8:29:12 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | and it started that immediately
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| 8:29:27 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | this was about 2-3 weeks ago
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| 8:29:41 PM | TheFu | Let me go to the other room and get the release it is running ....
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| 8:30:15 PM | ABQTKY | Is there a complete reset command or switch? Like for a paperclip to reset it?
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| 8:30:49 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I will have to go up 2 flights of stairs, so give me a few moments. Yeah I know but then I will have to reinstall all my apps.
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| 8:31:40 PM | TheFu | v7.6.0. xxxxx-4
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| 8:31:49 PM | ABQTKY | Yeah, but sounds like that may be what it needs. "Press the following 37 buttons withing 5 seconds to reset your device."
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| 8:32:53 PM | TheFu | http://factory-reset.com/wiki/Roku_3
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| 8:33:01 PM | TheFu | It is in the menus.
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| 8:33:33 PM | TheFu | There is also the hole for a paper-clip insert.
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| 8:33:49 PM | TheFu | According to that link. I've never needed to use either in 4+ yrs owning it.
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| 8:34:14 PM | TheFu | It did act flaky last week - new batteries in the remote solved that.
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| 8:34:22 PM | TheFu | s/flaky/flakey/
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| 8:34:57 PM | ABQTKY | My '3' goes through remote batteries very quickly!
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| 8:35:34 PM | TheFu | Think mine uses 2 every year or so. I don't use it for audio listening and it sits on a desk 99.999% of the time.
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| 8:35:46 PM | TheFu | 2-batteries
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| 8:35:49 PM | TheFu | that is.
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| 8:36:00 PM | TheFu | not 2-sets.
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| 8:36:39 PM | TheFu | I much prefer the Kodi interface over the Roku one.
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| 8:36:56 PM | ABQTKY | Wow! Mine must have developed a taste for batteries. Maybe because it uses RF? Other Rokus use infrared.
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| 8:37:17 PM | TheFu | Roku3 uses RF/Wifi
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| 8:37:58 PM | TheFu | If you look on another wifi-scanner, you can see the roku on the same channel as your normal wifi (probably).
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| 8:38:44 PM | TheFu | Dooley_da_Vulcan: did you get lost in the east wing?
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| 8:38:55 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | back....pant pant pant
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| 8:39:08 PM | ABQTKY | Infrared remote batteries last. the Roku3 batteries don't. (But the Roku 3 responds to infrared commands if you have a remote for another Roku.
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| 8:39:09 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | 2 flights up and 2 flights down
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| 8:39:49 PM | TheFu | and ...
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| 8:40:47 PM | ABQTKY | I wonder if there's a way to offload your customized apps and settings to an SD card so you can then do a factory reset??
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| 8:40:59 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | 7.6.0 build 4125-04
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| 8:41:15 PM | TheFu | Same as mine.
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| 8:41:31 PM | TheFu | Issue with specific channels or all of them?
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| 8:41:41 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | yeah, I notice. is there a way to do a backup of your apps like on kodi?
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| 8:41:52 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | lots of them,
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| 8:41:59 PM | TheFu | Does google know?
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| 8:42:47 PM | TheFu | ARen't the apps controlled by the website? If you do a reset, seems they'd automatically push the previously registered apps down, but I don't know.
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| 8:42:59 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | nothing that seems directly aimed at the problem
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| 8:43:28 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | that is true. since the apps are still on my 2nd roku 3
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| 8:43:37 PM | TheFu | You can certainly grab the text from the roku website.
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| 8:43:42 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | you are very right
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| 8:43:53 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | the text?
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| 8:44:13 PM | TheFu | list-o-install-ed-apps?
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| 8:44:14 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | he asks with a half awake look
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| 8:44:20 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | ah, yeah
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| 8:44:32 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | different than half asleep
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| 8:44:35 PM | TheFu | Dooley_da_Vulcan: do you use linux?
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| 8:44:41 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | yes
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| 8:44:47 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | using it right now
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| 8:45:17 PM | ABQTKY | Perhaps the solution would be to get a Roku ULTRA. If you have to redo everything, you might as well redo EVERYTHING 8-)
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| 8:45:20 PM | TheFu | Use the mouse to select the text - just select it. Open an editor. Use the middle mouse button to paste it.
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| 8:45:30 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I am impressed that I took a SSD from a hp and stuck it in a ASUS laptop and it just booted and ran
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| 8:45:33 PM | TheFu | ABQTKY: If you are buying - sure.
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| 8:45:49 PM | ABQTKY | Oh, sure, be that way. Hrrmph!
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| 8:46:13 PM | TheFu | I struggle to pay for ACA mandated health insurance monthly.
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| 8:46:30 PM | TheFu | It costs more than the mortgage and car payments.
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| 8:46:49 PM | TheFu | It was 300% less pre-ACA.
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| 8:46:57 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | select what text? the list of apps on my roku? I have a SD card and lots of apps. But no issue till immediately following the update. true it could have been hit by a stray cosmic ray that trashed the update
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| 8:48:45 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Hey ABQTKY I will take one while you are buying. Disabled or at least I have issues that make days following a working suck real bad.....
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| 8:49:55 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I go do some light electrical for a day and cant move for 3 to 4 days after...lol
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| 8:50:11 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | but the SSDA says I can do other work.
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| 8:50:52 PM | ABQTKY | Hey wait!! Would you believe I got a lot of three Rokus on eBay. Three 'parts or not working' condition Roku gizmos. Turned out all three worked fine.
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| 8:51:57 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Damn...lol lucked out
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| 8:53:09 PM | ABQTKY | Of course they're older models. But I suspect they still work fine. Roku did send out emails about 'new features' that were supposed to be coming from channel providers. I have no idea if anybody actually updated their channels to use those 'new features.'
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| 8:56:56 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | how old of models are they?
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| 8:57:09 PM | TheFu | Dooley_da_Vulcan: so I logged into the roku website, visited the channel storage and found 3 ways to get a list of all the channels.
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| 8:57:27 PM | TheFu | File--
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| 8:57:30 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I noticed my older ones were much slower than the 3 when I got it
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| 8:57:42 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Cool thanks.
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| 8:57:52 PM | TheFu | Select all the text, go to an editor (I use vim) and paste. Got ... 4700+ lines
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| 8:58:08 PM | TheFu | File --
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| 8:58:40 PM | TheFu | Got 254 pgs.
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| 8:59:02 PM | TheFu | While I was in there, added a few questionable channels.
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| 8:59:04 PM | TheFu | ;)
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| 8:59:33 PM | TheFu | The print-to-PDF is probably the prettiest.
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| 8:59:54 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | lol
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| 9:00:58 PM | ABQTKY | My older ones are Model 2100X, aka Roku XD/S. Do some research to see if your apps can run on it. If it'll work, send me an email and I'll sent the gizmo to you. This thing has HDMI, Composite, Component, Ethernet, SP/DIF and a USB port. Oh, and Wifi. pdvrabq@gmail.com
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| 9:02:45 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I have one of the XD/S and from what I believe some of what I do run I do not think will. I thank you very much kind sir
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| 9:03:07 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | the newest youtube, might be difficult
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| 9:03:50 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I run WEATHER4US
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| 9:04:07 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | NETFLIX, and Sling
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| 9:04:12 PM | ABQTKY | Ask Roku how to make 'em run on a 2100X, not just do they run. Might be a trick or two to convince stuff to run.
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| 9:04:51 PM | ABQTKY | Or better yet, look for a wiki or a Roku chatroom or some such.
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| 9:05:42 PM | benrob0329 |
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| 9:05:46 PM | benrob0329 | The systems presented above, other than GNU/Linux, are deprecated by the Free Software community, due to a grave ethical flaw.
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| 9:06:10 PM | benrob0329 | This, ladies and gentleman, is why you don't let the GNU take over your project.
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| 9:07:37 PM | ABQTKY | Roku is proprietary, we weren't talking about open hardware or software. The CAT5 stuff we all follow is Linux stuff so that IS open source stuff.
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| 9:10:02 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | yeah roku is written in...... hell I knew
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| 9:10:44 PM | ABQTKY | Dooley, benrob has a point. You could get a gizmo that uses Android or actually uses Linux...but you'd have to finnagle a bit to get stuff similar to what you had with the Roku. to run
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| 9:11:11 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | oh, I have an android MiBox also
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| 9:11:14 PM | TheFu | Roku is based on BSD.
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| 9:11:24 PM | TheFu | Like OSX/iWhatever.
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| 9:11:25 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | it has a some of the same channels
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| 9:11:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | not osx, google/android
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| 9:12:02 PM | TheFu | Really need a roku-spoofing Kodi addon.
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| 9:12:35 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | yeah, that would be great. had Kodi issues last few days?
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| 9:12:57 PM | TheFu | Nope, but I don't patch it constantly.
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| 9:13:09 PM | ABQTKY | A Roku analog device? Hmmm.
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| 9:13:12 PM | TheFu | Mainly use PlexBMC to access local content on tehe LAN.
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| 9:13:33 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I use Plex and Kodi
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| 9:13:56 PM | TheFu | I don't use any plex clients and don't have a plex login.
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| 9:14:08 PM | ABQTKY | Any way to set up a Raspberry Pi to behave like a Roku??
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| 9:14:23 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | really, you sound against it? something I should know?
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| 9:14:25 PM | TheFu | Besides kodi?
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| 9:14:54 PM | TheFu | Plex isn't F/LOSS.
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| 9:15:07 PM | TheFu | I much prefer F/LOSS over proprietary.
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| 9:15:10 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | is there a kodi app to that makes the Pi work like a roku
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| 9:15:32 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | F/LOSS? sorry I do nnot know
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| 9:15:40 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | not either
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| 9:15:56 PM | TheFu | Not that I know, but I haven't searched. Roku has DRM which makes using it for DRM-content possible/easy. Think Netflix and Amazon Prime Video.
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| 9:16:38 PM | TheFu | R-pi's don't have DRM hardware (to my knowledge), so DRM channels don't want to allow those players.
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| 9:17:02 PM | Solbu | Dooley_da_Vulcan: It depends on what you mean by «work like a roku»
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| 9:17:16 PM | TheFu | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.en.html
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| 9:17:37 PM | TheFu | I much prefer the Kodi interface over the Roku one.
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| 9:18:18 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | for what application
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| 9:18:29 PM | TheFu | But that's because I generally don't stream content from the internet and don't use lots and lots of DRM'd streaming services.
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| 9:18:30 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | or applications
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| 9:18:42 PM | TheFu | Watching video.
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| 9:19:29 PM | ABQTKY | You can have Netflix on an Android box or a Pi, I think. Dooley, you have some specific channels that may or may not be accessible to a non-Roku device.
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| 9:19:37 PM | TheFu | I tend to pre-download video from the the internet before watching it.
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| 9:19:44 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | well I am watching lost right now from ...........my own stuff. just trying to find fastest ripping system setup I have
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| 9:19:51 PM | TheFu | **can** doesn't mean it "just works".
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| 9:20:19 PM | TheFu | I'm watching S5 of Angel on my Kodi box - pulling content from the local Plex server.
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| 9:20:28 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I am not sure, I have not tried since I do have both
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| 9:20:42 PM | TheFu | vobcopy
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| 9:21:07 PM | Solbu | I like that one can change the Kodi interface using themes.
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| 9:21:15 PM | TheFu | vobcopy -F 5 -m /cdrom/
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| 9:21:19 PM | TheFu | $ vobcopy -F 5 -m /cdrom/
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| 9:21:44 PM | Solbu | I actually have a Kodi test system running an LCARS theme. :-)
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| 9:22:05 PM | TheFu | Oddly, I find the different themes are mostly complete failures and make the r-pi R-E-A-L-L-Y slow.
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| 9:22:20 PM | TheFu | Confluence works great here.
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| 9:22:26 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | TheFu: what size files does that produce for a 1 hr tv show? I could ask movie but they are all different lengths
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| 9:22:37 PM | TheFu | OSMC is dog slow, which doesn't make any sense.
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| 9:22:40 PM | Solbu | Yea, Confluence is really nice.
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| 9:22:55 PM | TheFu | Dooley_da_Vulcan: huh?
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| 9:22:58 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | Yeah, I like confluence myself and they tend to disable it often
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| 9:23:29 PM | TheFu | I only patch my OSMC pi quarterly and only after making a mirror SD copy.
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| 9:23:36 PM | TheFu | Been burned too many times.
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| 9:23:39 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | TheFu: oh you are just copying.....duh
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| 9:24:23 PM | Dooley_da_Vulcan | I do not do whole systems. I add individual channels and thats it
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| 9:24:28 PM | TheFu | Post-clone, I use handbrake to h.264/vorbis/mkv it - retaining all languages and subs and srts.
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